First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Why is it bad to make assumptions on a first date!?

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

First Date Follow Up is when we get an email from someone who went on a date and the other person isn't calling back. We get that other person on the phone to see why they're "ghosting".Today's First Date Follow Up will show you how bad the dating world is based off of crazy assumptions, you'll see why! Leave a rating and review wherever you listen. It will help the show out in a big way. If that's not your thing, you can find us on social media here:https://instagram.com/thejubalshowhttps://twitter.com/thejubalshowhttps://www.tiktok.com/@thejubalshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey, everyone. It's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the homestretch, right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show, which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show, Ears Edition podcast. Join late night legend Jon Stewart and the best news team for today's biggest headlines, exclusive extended interviews, and more. Now this is a second term we can all get behind. Listen to The Daily Show, Ears Edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Decisions Decisions, the podcast where boundaries are pushed and conversations get candid. Join your favorite hosts, me, Weezy WTF, and me, Mandy B, as we dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often taboo topics surrounding dating,

sex, and love. Every Monday and Wednesday, we both invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. Tune in and join the conversation. Listen to Decisions Decisions on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Jubal Show on demand. First date follow-up. Dustin is on the phone today for a first date follow-up, and he's not getting a call back from a girl he went out with named Kelsey.

Sad. Now he's on phone with us. That sucks, Dustin. It really does. How are you? Yeah, no, I'm good. I'd rather be on the phone with Kelsey at the moment. I don't blame you.

Well, we're happy to talk to you. First of all, before you tell us about your date with Kelsey, how long has it been since you talked to her? It's been about three days. How many times have you tried to reach out to her since your date? Well, I tried calling her the first two days, and a little text in between there as well. And then I just kind of only texted her the third day and I'm like, man, like what happened?

Okay, so she hasn't responded at all? At the beginning, it was just like little, she would say little stuff like, hi, she would be cordial. And then eventually it would get less and less until the third day I didn't hear from her at all. All right. Well, tell us a little bit about your date with her then. Well, so she had told me just like preemptively that she was in kind of her get back out there moment and kind of mood. So I took her to this dinner spot that she had told me was one of her favorite places to go when she was in college. And so I was like, well, maybe kind of a reminder of like dating back in the day.

It's a cool little diner. How'd it go? It went, honestly, it went really good. I picked her up. I tried to do it up really nice, and I got an Uber Black for her, and I made sure I paid for everything. We had breakfast for dinner. Oh, dinner. I think that's the best anyway. You know, what a better way to have a dinner than with some nonsense breakfast, you know?

Okay. So the, the conversation was, was really great. There was really no like dead moments in our conversation. And, and I felt like I really got to know a lot about her and that I was able to open up a little bit as well. Overall, I felt the conversation was balanced and I felt really good about it. Oh, and I really liked, she was actually just super intelligent. It wasn't a bunch of fluff conversation about her looks or just random stuff that's very surface level

like we talked about i love history we talked about history we talked about traveling and the places we've been um just a bunch of bunch of stuff about different cultures and i'm really into that so really liked her a lot and uh just kind of bummed that she's, I don't want to say it out loud, but I feel like she's ghosting me. Well, you don't feel like it, but unfortunately. She is ghosting you, yeah. Why do you think she's ghosting you? Just, I've never been ghosted personally,

but I've had some friends that have happened, that has happened too, and that's kind of the pattern where, like, the conversation just gets, it's not like she's not responding, but then it gets less and less until eventually it just kind of fizzles out. And again, I don't want to say it, but I kind of feel like that's what's happening. But why though? Why do you think she's ghosting you? Like anything happened during the date?

Like there was no part of the date at all that you can think of that was like it just kind of like went weird. The conversation at all, like nothing from her vibes? No, nada. Like everything felt really good. And I feel like it ended well. I kissed her goodnight. Okay. So you haven't been like, man, it must have been this.

It must have been that. You know how people Pick apart dates like that If you've been in ghost before You start like Replaying it in your mind What did I do wrong You don't think You did anything wrong

If I did something wrong I definitely would have Recognized it But like I said Honestly Like 100% It was a fantastic date Okay

Well we'll see If we can figure it out for you Then we'll play a song Come back And then call her And get your first date Follow up right after this Since you will show In the and get your first date follow-up right after this. She will show.

In the middle of your first date follow-up, and if you're just joining us, Dustin is on the phone. But you know who's not? Kelsey. She's not on the phone. That's the girl that he went out with. And she's been ghosting him since their date. He says it's been about three days, and he's texted her, called her a few times, and gotten nothing since they went to a diner. He said the conversation was great.

He really liked how smart she was. They talked about traveling the world together, maybe even going to Cincinnati sometime, which is crazy, man. One can dream, right? Bucket list. But now he's not getting a call back, and he doesn't know why,

so he asked us to get her on the phone and see if we can figure it out. All right, Dustin, do you have anything to say before we dial her phone number and try to figure out why she's ghosting you? Godspeed, man. All right, here we go. Good luck. All right, I'm going to dial the phone number and try to figure out why she's ghosting you? Godspeed, man. All right, here we go. Good luck.

All right, I'm going to dial the phone number right now. Hello? Hey, may I speak to Kelsey, please? This is she. Hi, Kelsey. Hi, may I ask who's calling? My name is Jubal, and this is a radio show called The Jubal Show. Oh, yeah.

Okay. Hi. Hi. Hi. Have you ever listened to the show before? Yes, I'm very caught off guard right now. All right. Well, we're calling you today because we got an email about you from somebody who listens to the show.

It could be good or bad. I don't know if it's good or bad. That'll be up to you to decide. But we got an email about you from Dustin, the guy that you went out with a couple days ago. Remember him? Okay. What do you want to know about Dustin? Well, we want to know why you don't love him yeah

whoa we want to know why you're ghosting him he said that you guys went out and told us about your date he said he really liked you but now you're not calling him back and he doesn't know why yeah i know i feel like such a douche i really do it was such a good date. Like he was so sweet. He was so nice. He went to like my favorite diner from college and he was like for dinner, the whole thing. Like, but honestly, like there was just one thing I could not get over the whole time. He, every time he would speak his eyes, he would just blink every second. Like, I know this makes me sound so shallow i really think you know like i i'm like a romantic lady like i think eyes are the portal to the soul

and i could not even look into his eyes because every single second it was like blink blink blink blink i was like what is going on like i took a i took a few uh psychology classes in college and it made me feel like you know when somebody blinks a lot usually means that they're like lying and stuff and it just like weirded me out i didn't know what he was saying was truthful or if it was not truthful could mean they have a nervous twitch yeah like maybe i had maybe it's that and i and i like i i would rather it be something like that than him just, like, lying straight in my face the whole time. Because, like, we did talk about, like, a lot of good stuff. Like, both love history.

Like, we wanted to travel. I was telling him all about, like, my job. And, like, I love to embroider. Like, I was, like, rarely guys like to hear about embroidery, you know? Like, he was really throwing his phone. But I, he just kept on blink blink blink blink blinking and I felt like I couldn't get over it at all and so I tried to respond a couple of times but like after a bunch of conversations with my friend just kept coming up and I was like this is gonna make me seem incredibly but I'm just I don't think I can keep doing it.

I know it's going to make me sound bad. So I didn't want to respond to him and tell him that. Okay. So he's just a big blinker. You just couldn't stop paying attention to the blinks? Like the entire date. Like I noticed that like the waiter kept looking at it and I kept looking at it and I was just I wanted to bring it up but if it was like a twitch I didn't want to like bring attention to it and like for his confidence about it and

if he was lying like I didn't like it just felt like really awkward to bring up so I wasn't gonna do that to him like on the first date but also I just it would have given me like a lot of clarity if I had like known what it was because part of me is like is he lying? Is it a nervous twitch? We should ask him. We should. I think so too. Like you guys know we don't need to ask him. I think we should.

Yeah let's ask him. He's actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you. Yep. Hey Kelsey. Oh. Dustin? So Blink blinking, huh? Yeah, I know that sounds like very shallow, but I just wanted to look in your sweet, sweet eyes,

and I just couldn't do it. You're just blinking so much, Dustin. That's quite all right. You know what? This is actually really good. I have a perfectly excellent explanation for that. I just had LASIK a week ago. Oh.

You didn't tell her? On the date? No, I mean, I've had bad eyes for years, and I thought, you know, what the heck, let me just get LASIK. And I just, I forgot my eye drops that night. And so one of the side effects of first getting it is, like, your eyes get really dry. You're supposed to be on this routine of eye drops, and that's what the last month. Don't worry. I'm not a perpetual blinker.

As a matter of fact, it's supposed to be wearing away over the next and I won't even need to be on eye drops. Well, she thinks you're a liar. She thinks you could be a liar because of the blinking. Are you lying about this? No, legit. I had LASIK and

I was super excited because I can get up in the morning and not have to worry about contacts or glasses anymore. He's telling the truth, Kelsey. I've had LASIK too. A hundred percent. Your eyes are really dry right after. So that's, that's what it is, Kelsey. I'm just surprised that even though you had such a good date with him, you let the blinking

get in the way of getting back to him. Like you said that it was wonderful conversation, all that good stuff. And I just think, I don't know. I personally wouldn't let blinking get in the way of meeting someone that i was able to have a great conversation with have you tried dating these days girls it's hard listen i was talking to my girlfriends about it and i was getting in my head and i was thinking about the classes that i had taken about like people who file like you know the criminal psychology classes and i was really getting in my head about it. That combined with like a busy couple of days just did not help Dustin in this scenario.

But you know, like he's a really sweet guy and you know what? Turns out he's not the blinky boy he is. And I appreciate everybody clearing this up. That shows how bad dating is right now. You couldn't even go, well, maybe it's like LASIK.

You're like, well, he's definitely a liar and he's got some deep psychological issues. Yeah, it's objectively hard out there. Yeah, sounds like it.

Well, I promise, Kelsey, I'm not a liar. I'll bring my receipt if you want for LASIK. You were telling your friends about me? Ooh. Yeah, we actually gave you the nickname Blanky Pete. For LASIK. You were telling your friends about me? Yeah, we actually gave you the nickname Blinky Pete,

but now I have to retract that statement, apparently. Blinky Pete's just LASIK Pete. It's not even Pete, it's Dustin. Hey, Kelsey, would you like to go out with Dustin on another date? We'll pay for it. Yeah, I would really like that. And Dustin, I'll do you one better. I'll bring the eye drops, okay?

Hey! But if you see me blinking a lot at you across the table, this time it's just me winking at you. Charming. Well, maybe we can find some eye drops for that, too. There you go. The Jubal Show on demand. Hey, everyone.

It's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the homestretch right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. I'm bringing in some FOKs,

friends of Katie's, to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Astead Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well.

I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at The Daily Show, which means he's also back in our ears on The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Join late-night legend Jon Stewart and the best news team for today's biggest headlines, exclusive extended interviews, and more. Now this is a second term we can all get behind. Listen to The Daily Show Ears Edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Decisions Decisions,

the podcast where boundaries are pushed and conversations get candid. Join your favorite hosts, me, Weezy WTF, and me, Mandy B, as we dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love. Every Monday and Wednesday, we both invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. Tune in and join the conversation. Listen to Decisions Decisions on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.