First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Why is Kyle ghosting Emma?

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

Emma called us to find out why Kyle is ghosting her. When The Jubal Show gets into finding out.. things take a weird turn. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Kyle. So in a few minutes, we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date. But first, Emma, how long has it been since you heard from Kyle? I wanna say it's been about like three weeks, three or four weeks.

Oh, and it's been that long? Why do you wanna get a hold of him? Okay, I mean if I can be totally honest, it's because I know it's kind of cheesy to say because it was just one date, but I really felt like there was a connection. Like I really feel like there was something there. Yeah. Yeah, I mean the date went so well and you know, we did like a whole escape room thing,

which I thought would be pretty fun. Yeah. I mean, I love solving puzzles and you know, it seemed like we were both really working well together. You know, I was kind of the brain. He was kind of like the muscle moving stuff around, helping us, you know, talk clues. And it just felt like, I don't know, it almost didn't even feel like it was a first date. We, you know, even let so much time pass that it was like past dinner time and we hadn't ate anything yet. So then we decided to like stop and get something to eat. It was so casual.

I am very much a person who kind of over thinks on the first date and I get very nervous usually, but I didn't feel anything like that with Kyle. I feel like he was also kind of feeling the vibe too and the way he was looking at me and talking to me and telling me things. Yeah, I just, I felt so safe and comfortable. It's always so hard to know that you feel that way. And it's kind of like, it's impossible that the other person didn't feel something, right? Like, don't you always feel that way? Exactly.

Yeah. What could have been the reason why he's disappeared now if it was that intense? I've really been trying to pin this down. And I mean, I'm not totally sure. But the only thing that I can kind of think of is that I can sometimes get a little bit into the games. Like I do get competitive to a certain point, but I did tell him this in advance. And I tried to kind of just brush it off in more of like a flirtatious way.

Like there was one puzzle that he just wasn't getting. Like it was, you know, like a word clue thing. And it was so obvious to me and he just wasn't getting it. And I just joked with him. I was like, well, you're lucky you're so pretty, you know, like, so I was able to. You think he got offended by that?

You called him dumb? Well, okay. I didn't say that, but, and it's my own fault. Like I know I probably could have done better about that, but that's the only thing that I can think of. Okay. Well, how did it end with him? Um, I mean, I thought it ended so well. We didn't like fully confirm going on a second day, but we both said the whole,

like, Oh, you know, like I had a great time. I'd like to do it again sometime. And we both said that at the end. Um, and we exchanged, you know, like we still had, you know, our phone numbers and stuff. And, and then I tried to text him the next day and I didn't hear anything. And then I tried again, you know, a couple of days later and then nothing. And I did try again, you know, a few more times, but I haven't, yeah.

I will say, if there's one thing I normally hear on all of these, it's that after every single time they go on a first date, they, everyone says like, oh my gosh, like we should do this again sometime. We're like, yeah. It's polite. I think it's honestly just a polite thing people say cuz I've said it before knowing that I was like Yeah, I don't know it sucks because you like you thought it was a really great day and you in your head is like Oh, he wants to go see me again, but then at the same time he could just be doing it to be polite

Well, that's heartbreaking it to be polite. Well, that's heartbreaking. That's what it sounds like. I know. That's like soul crusher. Emma, we'll see if we can figure it out for you. We'll play a song, come back and then call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you and maybe get you another date.

Okay? All right. I appreciate it, guys. All right. Victoria with the jab. First day follow up next. Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you? Why is my cat not here?

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date but first Emma why don't you break down your date for us one more time? Yeah Kyle and I went out a few weeks ago we had a great first date we did an escape room we had you know dinner afterwards. It felt like we were both on the same page, we were vibing, we were laughing, we were having fun, and we both said that we were wanting to see each other again, but then I never heard back from him. TITLE CARD So you did kind of imply that he wasn't the smartest kid in the room. So yeah there was that. All right.

Well, you ready for us to see if we can figure it out? Yeah, I'm ready. Okay. Hey, Kyle. Kyle, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called the Jubal show. Hi, Kyle.

My name is Nina. Hi, and I you? This is a radio show. It's called the Jubal Show. Hi, Kyle. My name is Nina. Hi, and I'm Victoria. And I'm Jubal. How's it going? Hey guys, it's going. It's going. It's going pretty good.

How's it going guys? Good. Thank you for asking. Have you ever listened to the show before? Yeah, a little bit. Well, we do a segment on the show called the first date follow up. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and you ghost them, they can email us to call you and figure out why you're ghosting them.

So, we're going to do a segment on the show called the first date follow up. So, we're going to do a segment on the show called the first date follow up. So, we're going to do a segment on the show called the first date follow up. So, we're going to do a segment on the show called the first date follow up. So, we're going to do a segment on the show called the first date follow up. So, we're going to do a segment on the show called the first date follow up. So, we're going to do a segment on the show called the first date follow up. So, we're going to do a segment on the show called the first date follow up. So, we're going to do a segment on the show called the first date follow-up. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and you ghost them, they can email us to call you and figure out why you're ghosting them. So we got an email about you from somebody, Kyle. That's why we're calling.

Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I think I've been familiar with it. Let me guess if you've been texting me a ton. No surprises on this. Is it Emma? Yes, it is Emma. Do you have time to tell us why you're ghosting her? Uh, um, yeah, I guess.

Uh, look, I mean, look, I mean, I don't know. I mean, the date was really fun. I thought it was, I thought it was a good time. I mean, she was really, she's really gorgeous. And I mean, I think she means well, I'm just kind of, uh, I don't know. I'm bummed. Cause I mean, I was pretty attracted to her. I was like really feeling something with her and uh, it turns out, uh, I dunno, I guess kind of crazy, but she's like a,

she's a pretty specific kind of girl and it just kind of rubs me the wrong way sort of right. So after our date, she, she sends me me she sends me a Venmo request for half of our uber ride People that send like Venmo requests without like a heads up That's like a different kind of passive aggressive and this is where I that was like 25 bucks So like I paid it and I just kind of checked out with her. I don't know wait wait a minute. Sorry That's the reason why you ghosted me. Hey Kyle. That's Emma. She's on the phone and wants to talk to you by the way Like it was your your you ghosted me over $12.50. Did you send? Sorry, I didn't really like a big thing or anything like that.

Yeah. It just, it just, it felt kind of weird, dude. I don't know. But you made it a big thing. Like it's, it was a $25 ride. Like I was, I just supposed to just not like just deal with it. Like it was a first date. I feel like that's just a very common expense expectancy to like split things

Did you guys split everything else on the date? Yeah, my thing is this is my thing though Is it so to me this has like nothing to do with like the money? Like I don't care about this splitting the money the fees the $25 that I don't even care about it To me is like this is a communication thing. You kind of know what I mean by that. So it's like we hadn't even had our first host first date conversation before you're like sending me these Venmo requests without like hitting me up about

like, or even just texting me or even just like talking to me. It felt like, I don't know, that could be like our future, right? It's just passive aggressive comments, actions, stuff like that. I really, I just, I don't know, that could be like our future, right? It's just passive, aggressive comments, actions, stuff like that. I really, I didn't, I can't really handle that. I'm kind of good. I'm an adult and I appreciate straightforward communication, just to be honest about it. So would you have rathered her texting and be like, Hey, do you mind if I send you a Venmo request for the Uber ride? Like would that have solved the issue for you? I don't know because like I would have rather heard, I guess in my head, I kind of want her to have just dropped it at least until we're having like regular

conversations for a little while. And then it's like, Hey, you want to send me some money for that? Uh, Uber ride. You just said the money wasn't an issue, but now you're saying it is an issue because I mean, I paid for my food and like everything. All I did was sent a request. I didn't demand it from you. I was, and you could have just texted me and said, Hey, what's up with the Venmo request?

You didn't respond to me at all. How is that an adult mature thing? I mean, even if you would have demanded it from me, that would have been more straightforward communication. So I feel like I would have preferred that even over like, I just don't like the passive aggressive Venmo thing, dude. Like that this is it's like a type of person that communicates and operates through the Venmo transactions like that. And it's not me. I'm just not, I'm not into it. It was a turnoff. Emma, do you think you're a passive aggressive person in general? and mo trans actions like that. And it's not me, I'm just not, I'm not into it. It was a turnoff.

Emma, do you think you're a passive aggressive person in general? No, no, I'm definitely not. I don't know what kind of specific person you're like looking for in terms of wanting something like that, but you could have also just communicated that that was an issue. Like you're boasting about being a

mature adult and communication is important to you, but you did the exact opposite of what you just said. So I'm looking for somebody who can actually follow through with their own principles. I mean, to send a Venmo request like to someone after a day all out of the blue, I just think it's kind of weird. In this economy, how is that weird? If you're, if you're, if you need the money or whatever, I guess I get that or whatever, but for me it's a turn off.

I'm sorry about it. It just is what it is. You said that you would have rather her bring it up later, but I feel like it would have been more awkward if she would have brought it up later, randomly. Well, okay, how about we try this, right? Like, why don't you tell me how much your time was worth for the date and I'll reimburse you for it

Wow No, you know, I don't know about money, you know, I Just I mean if you want to pay me like, you know, give me 150 bucks But be honest, I don't think you can even afford that. Oh, okay. All right. I'm gonna use 300 right now just to show you I can afford it. What?

Hey, Kyle, would you like to go on another date with Emma? We'll pay for it. Oh, I'm thinking about it. I think I'm good though, fam. I think we're good. Emma, you didn't get a second date, but hey, you got 300 bucks. That's a win in my book. Jubal's first date follow up.

What's up y'all? I'm AJ Andrews, pro softball player, sports analyst, and the first woman to win a Rawlings Gold Glove. On my new podcast, Dropping Diamonds, we dive headfirst into the world of softball by sharing powerful stories, insights, and conversations that inspire and empower. It's time to drop bombs and diamonds. Dropping Diamonds with AJ Andrews is an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Athletes Unlimited Softball League and Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.

Listen to Dropping Diamonds with AJ Andrews on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you? Why is my cat not here? And I go in and she's eating my lunch. Or if hypnotism is real? You will use this suggestion in order to enhance your cognitive control. But what's inside a black hole?

Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe. Well, we have answers for you in the new iHeart original podcast, Science Stuff. Join me or Hitcham as we answer questions about animals, space, our brains, and our bodies. So give yourself permission to be a science geek and listen to Science Stuff on the iHeart video app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey all you women's hoops fans, and folks who just don't know yet that they're women's hoops fans. We've got a big week over at Good Game with Sarah Spain as we near the end of one of the

most exciting women's college basketball seasons ever. The most parody we've seen in years, with games coming down to the wire and everyone wondering which team will be crowned national champions this weekend in Tampa. Listen to Good Game with Sarah Spayne on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My husband cheated on me with two women. He wants to stay together because he has cancer. Should I stay? Okay Sam, that has to be the craziest story in OK Storytime Podcast history.

Well John, that's because it's Dump'em Week and this user writes, Last week we had an attempted break-in. I asked my husband, who was supposed to be at his mom's, to come over and change the locks, but his mom told me he wasn't with her. And it took me less than an hour to find the first two women he was cheating on me with. Did she leave him? Well, to find out how this story ends, follow the OK Storytime Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast,

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