First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Why is Lia ghosting Zach?

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

When you have a date with someone, you have to pay attention to the details. In this case, that's where the devil is. Let's find out why Lia is ghosting Zach, and see if we can get him a second date.  Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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First date of follow up. Powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys. Online at AdvocatesLaw.com. Zach is on the phone today for a first date follow up and he's getting ghosted by Leah. So in a few minutes we'll call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date.

But first, Zach, how long has it been since you heard from Leah? It's been about a week. Okay. That's kind of the sweet spot where people start to panic a little bit, you know? Yeah. I get that though. Have you tried to reach out to her? I have and it's honestly just going straight to voicemail. Oh man.

Oh, that's gotta hurt. Yeah. Anyway, tell us about your date. We didn't do anything too crazy. I cooked her dinner at my place and like, I really can cook. So it was a good time. We played some Monopoly and. How long was the date? Like seven hours.

Monopoly takes forever. She came over for dinner around seven. We started playing around eight thirty. She didn't leave for a long time. Yeah, it was more of a joke. Well, monopoly. But that's okay. It sounds like you guys are really enjoying each other's company ish.

Yeah, no, like I even let her be the car. So clearly she's winning a lot. Well, we messed around a little bit. It was fun. Like when you say messed around a little bit, you don't have to give us like details. But what's a little bit like? was fun. Like when you say messed around a little bit, you don't have to give us like details, but what's a little bit like,

did you guys hook up all the way? That is details, you're wrong. I guess you're right. So I just don't want like all the details. We had a good time. Okay. You know, at the end, I thought we were, we were gonna like hang out because she said,

you know, let's do this again. And I thought that was not facetious and I haven't really heard back. Did anything happen like during monopoly or while you guys were messing around that may be a reason why? No, like, so like during monopoly, everything was going great.

We're connecting and you know, everything like flowed really, really well. I'm like, she's probably the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my life. And it had me like wondering like, do I just have bad lighting in my house? And like, is there like a nightclub in there? But like, the only thing I could think of is I have a picture of my son by the door and I noticed that she glanced at it but she didn't say anything and maybe that freaked her out.

Did she already know that you have a son? No, like I didn't really know how to bring it up. Okay, so you didn't tell her you have a kid? No, not yet. See, I think that would be gold if you were dating if you're a single dad. I feel like that would be good. I mean, some people are super into it, me being one of those people, but yeah. Well, so did you notice her like looking at it?

Was there a moment that was kind of weird with that? No, she glanced at it and, you know, move forward. Everything seemed fine. Nothing really changed. She didn't ask me to think about it. So I didn't think there was anything there. Could also be that you didn't mention it. Yeah, you know, some things are just better left to be discovered.

Right. But I mean, for her, she might be like, oh, he didn't tell me he had a kid like he's hiding things. Yeah. I mean, maybe I should have just, you know, led with that. Yeah, I wouldn't lead with it, but there's definitely a place where maybe that would come up in conversation,

especially if she's at your house with a picture. But did that happen at the end of the night in the middle of the night? I'm just trying to see like if her mood shifted at all. The very end of the night before she walked out. Okay. All right. Well, we'll see if that is the reason we'll play a song, come back and call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you and maybe get you another date. Okay. Thank you. All right. Play a song, come back, call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you and maybe get you another date, okay? Thank you. All right, play a song, come back,

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Zach is on the phone and he's not getting a call back from Leah, so we're about to call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date. But before we do that, Zach, refresh our memory about your day with Leah. So she came over to my place, I made her dinner, we played Monopoly, we had an amazing time.

I think she's the prettiest girl I've ever seen and I've been getting ghosted for about a week now. Why was it again that you think you might be getting ghosted? I mean, before she walked out, she noticed a picture of my son on the wall and I'm not sure if that freaked her out a little bit. Because you didn't tell her you had one. Yeah, I mean, I didn't really know where to put that in on a first date conversation. You ready for us to call her?

Yeah. All right. Here we go. Hello. Hi, may I speak to Leah, please? Uh, this is her. How can I help you? Leah, what's up?

This is a radio show. It's called the Jubal show. How are you? Hi, Leah. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. Hi, I'm James. Hi, I'm James. Hi, I'm James. Hi, I'm James. Hi, I'm James. Hi, may I speak to Leah, please? This is her. How can I help you? Leah, what's up?

This is a radio show. It's called the Jubal Show. How are you? Hi, Leah. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name is Jubal. Oh my God.

I didn't think people actually did this in real life. I mean, like you hear clips online, but I didn't know it was actually real. So you actually have heard of the show. Oh yeah, totally. Sweet. Oh, cool. Great. Well, Leah, do you know why we're calling? I'm hoping I won something. Oh, I'm hoping you did too. We do a

segment called the first day follow-up, that's where if you go on a date with someone and you ghost them, they can email us to call you and ask why you're ghosting them. Oh. I'm not telling you that for no reason. That's the reason we're calling is you're ghosting somebody and they emailed us because they're wondering why you're not calling them back More specifically why you're just sending them to voicemail when they call you Okay. Well, it's definitely Zach then huh? Yes it is Can you tell us why you're ghosting him? He really wants to know okay. The date was great. He's clearly a nice guy I think we had a lot of fun, but someone had definitely been there besides me.

And I think she was cooking. Like right before you, you mean? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. Like his place is immaculate. Like it looks amazing. And I'm talking like, this is not guy stuff, right? Like there's perfectly arranged flowers, there's decorative pillows literally everywhere.

And I don't know. Some dudes are like that, you know, some are, they've been usually been taught. And I guess that's what I'm saying is like, it felt like I'd walked into Pinterest. It was very nice. And he just kind of, so this is where it gets, because it's where it's weird. So I mentioned that I'm like, wow, your place is really beautiful. And he goes, he just like casually says, yeah, my ex was an interior designer and still brings me fresh flowers and decorates every once in a while.

She still brings him fresh flowers? I guess. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, That's why you're ghosting me. Leo, that's Zach. He's actually on the phone listening. I want to talk to you.

Oh, okay. I didn't know you were, hi Zach. Hi. So let's pick back up. Zach, your ex brings you flowers still to your house? It's not like that. Like she's just an interior designer and she likes arranging stuff and it's a project for her.

And we haven't been together in forever and there's nothing that's going on between us. Zach, there are throw pillows. No man has that many pillows. I do. Unless someone else is active. I've got a lot of throw pillows. Yeah.

I like it though. I mean, yeah, I mean, I like having a nice place and like, I guess maybe flowers and pillows are a bit much, but like she's not living there. Like I can't just have a little bit of taste and appreciate some fresh flowers here and there. I don't even know that it's because you have a nice place, Zach. It almost seems like this is her way of being like, what's the deal with your ex? Yeah, you can have flowers.

I think they're cool. They're clearly pretty, but they're coming from your ex. All right. Wait, so this is absolutely nothing to do with the, you seeing a photo of my son? What son? The picture that I saw you glancing at on the wall. So you lied to me twice. Your ex decorates your house and you have a kid that you never mentioned. I feel like those are the big things to just skip over. Okay. Okay. I get where you're coming from.

Chill for a second. It looks like reset. Okay. Let's just start fresh. Hey, I have a good relationship with his mom. She's an interior designer and she keeps the place nice for him. Not me. She has a boyfriend by the way, and she's supportive of whoever I choose to date.

Wait, so backup. So your ex is also your baby mom. Yeah. Okay. That's why she's still over. She brings my son over and she brings a few things and like, it's probably for him to feel more comfortable. So that his place that he's staying in with her is similar to my place. She doesn't want me to look bad in front of her kid. And like it creates a more comforting environment. So I'm open towards having my place, have some throw pillows and some flowers.

As long as it makes my son happy. I mean, look, Zach, that's all well and good, but I don't see why you couldn't have told me that sooner. I really don't feel like this was when I should have been, you know, I mean, like that's not something you just drop on someone after a date. I just feel like it feels like you held out on that. Like you kept it a secret from me or something. No, like, listen, you're the first person I've gone on a day with in a very,

very long time. I date intentionally, I'm actually interested in you. I didn't really know how to bring that up into the conversation. I thought that was more of like a second date conversation. I thought the first date was just to see how we connect without complicating the scenario. It's not really something I did intentionally. And I'm sorry if you feel like that was what's out for me, but that wasn't what I was trying to do. It's just weird, because when you asked me about my family, I definitely mentioned everyone in it.

I didn't skip a child. Listen, I would really love to, like, see you again and take you out again. And, you know, if you're open towards it, you know, it's just I didn't know how to bring that up in a conversation. This is you're the first person I've gotten on a day with since. Leah, would you like to go on another day with Zach will pay for it? My heart wants to say yes, but I feel like I should say no.

I've had this happen to me before. I've had an ex who held out that he had kids and it did not go well. Like, so, yeah, he had to. And didn't tell me until like four months into dating, which like obviously way worse, but like, this just gives me bad vibes. I'm not comfortable. So the fact that after first day you found out I have a kid, you're not comfortable. I mean, I guess I have to accept that. If you don't want to be around a kid, I mean, I don't think I lied to you.

I just, I didn't think I lied to you. I didn't bring up something I did. I asked you about your family and you didn't mention a child. Like that's lying. It's lying by omission. I didn't lie to you. I just, what's held to truth. You sound like a delight.

Yeah, no, that's just like mine, but with wrapping paper on it. Well, I guess we can agree to disagree. If that's how you want to put it, fine. But yeah, no, not doing that again. I'm not going down that road twice. And that's the last time I let somebody win a monopoly. Wow. Jubal's first date follow up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorney online at advocateslaw.com.

Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you unbumbled. More of you shamelessly sending playlists, especially that one filled with show tunes. More of you finding Geminis because you know you always like them. More of you dating with intention because you know what you want. And you know what? We love that for you. Someone else will too. Be more you this year and find them on Bumble.

Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you? Why is my cat not here? And I go in and she's eating my lunch. Or if hypnotism is real? We will use this suggestion in order to enhance your cognitive control. But what's inside a black hole? Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe. Well, we have answers for you in the new iHeart original podcast, Science Stuff. Join me or Hitcham as we answer questions about animals, space, our brains, and our

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