First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Why is Ryan ghosting Jasmine?

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

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Jasmine is on the phone today for a first date follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Ryan. So in a few minutes we're going to call him, see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date if she still wants one. But first, Jasmine, how long has it been since you heard from Ryan? It's been a week. Okay. So have you reached out to him in that week about how many times you think?

I've reached out to him, uh, embarrassingly probably over 20 times. Okay. That's a lot. Don't be embarrassed. I mean, I mean, I think that we can all say that that ghosting is definitely happening here then unless he lost his phone. Yeah. But like who can survive without a phone nowadays?

So that's very true. What were the 20 texts or calls like? What did you say? Well, I basically it was it was like more than 20 calls and then just the text had just been kind of like I kind of just kind of writing paragraphs only because him and I basically met, um, we, we spoke on this app and then we, before meeting, we were just, he was like hyping me up and just, it was almost like love bombing, to be honest, now that I think about it and now that I've spoken to my friends on it, but he kind of promised me a lot of things. And I guess I was just being really vulnerable.

But before we met, he was telling me how pretty I was and we were going to go to this place and we're going to go to that place. And then when I met him, he was so incredible. So like everything I could even ask for a checked off, like don't ever I don't even know if you love a check Boxless I don't but if I were to have one He's definitely that that person and He was witty which is what I love so much Yeah, well, we met at this pop-up bar and I was just super excited about everything.

He paid for the check, of course, you know, like any gentleman would. And I, yeah, I asked him if he was okay after that and absolutely nothing. But before then, before we worked the day, everything was just like, tell me, it was like a lot, like I said, it was like love bombing. And then we go on this date and it's the greatest time of my life. And then I was like, okay, like, you know, I was going to wait to see if he wanted to go ahead and give me a call. Cause that's like what you do, but he took too long.

So I was like, Hey, like, are you okay? And then I was like, thanks for the night. And then after that, I've been like, what's going on? So while you're on the day at the restaurant, it was so perfect. Like, can you tell us about that? What were the conversations like? Like, what did you guys do? Yeah. So it was, it was like nonstop, like talks about our future together. He was talking about, he was talking about going to like Cabo, going to like, like meet his parents. That's super intense.

Yeah, that is intense. I would wonder what was going on too, but also it'd be kind of flaggy to hear somebody start talking that way so soon. Yeah. Did you do or say anything on the date that may have, I don't know, altered the course of this marriage? I mean, I mean, maybe I like, if you're too eager, because he's like, yeah, like, we'll meet like my parents, I can't wait to show you like my grandparents too.

And I was just like, maybe like I said, like, yes, to click. That is a lot. Yeah. I mean, to go that far. Right? Yeah. And then now I just think maybe he's like, he wasn't attracted to me or something. And maybe I should have like worn a different dress so I don't look basic.

But I was like, I feel like I picked the perfect dress. Like, you know, like when you ask like your girlfriends when you're going out and I did, yeah, now I feel kind of insecure and just not okay with the right selection that I even picked on my dress. Well, it might not be anything about you. At all. I mean, I understand turning to yourself, like what's wrong with me and doing the superficial like clothing and stuff like that But there's a really good chance that has nothing to do with any of that

But like first date impressions are everything too you know like when I like when you wear like a red dress that makes a big statement, but Maybe I should have to form that one and I just I wore a regular black dress And I think that like a guy probably on the first date wants like a red statement piece dress. As a guy who's been on dates before, I don't think I would care. Black or red, as long as you're wearing something. Or not. Depending on where we meet.

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why he's ghosting her and see if she still wants another date after she hears the reason. But things moved pretty quickly. Jasmine, give a real quick recap for everybody who is just joining us on your situation with Ryan. Okay, so I feel like this isn't your regular like ghost story. I mean, like this guy sent me flowers before our date. He told me he wanted, he told me we wanted to travel together

that I can meet his parents. He paid for the bill. Everything was good, good conversation. And now I absolutely haven't heard from him. And I, it went from so many messages of flowers to my door and now I don't even get a peep. Nothing. I would want to know. Yeah, I would definitely want to know what's going on.

All right. Well, you ready for us to call him? Yeah. Here we go. Hello? Hi, may I speak to Ryan, please? This is Ryan. Ryan, how are you, man? My name is Jubal from a radio show called The Jubal Show. Hi, Ryan. Whole show's here. I'm Nina. Hi, and I'm Victoria. Wow, okay. Hey.

What's up? Have you ever listened to the show before? I have. Oh. Cool. Why are you guys calling me? I'm Victoria. I'm Victoria.

I'm Victoria. I'm Victoria. I'm Victoria. I'm Victoria. I'm Victoria. I'm Victoria. I'm Victoria. I'm Victoria. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria What's up, have you ever listened to the show before I have No Ryan we're calling you because you went on a date with somebody and you haven't called them back Okay, so I'm not sure if you've ever heard a first date follow up before but that's a segment where if you go out with Someone and then ghost them they ask us to call you and ask why. So we got an email about you from Jasmine.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you mind telling us about why you're ghosting Jasmine? Well, Jasmine's great. We have a really cool date. She is attractive, lovely, but you know what? I have come to learn about myself that I am, I have a lot of momentum in the romance department and I need to cool the jets more often and so I have decided for myself no matter how good it's going, you know, as we're texting and talking beforehand, in the first five minutes, IRL, if I don't

feel something discernible, a spark, I got to cut it off because I've gone down that road too many times hoping that would come because everything else seems so good. And then I'm months into a relationship and I just, I'm too much of a romantic, so I need it to draw. Okay, wait, I don't like, okay, hey, sorry, but it's kind of really refreshing to even hear your voice, but at the same time, now I'm kind of just like, I'm really just in shock and taken by everything. If you're such a romantic and all of this stuff,

wouldn't you have been polite to just send me a text back or call back and be polite, have, you know, like just communicate, let me know what's going on instead of just leaving me out in the dark like that. That's really disrespectful. I honestly want to like, curse your head off right now, but like I, I'm not going to just because I'm actually polite. Um, I don't understand why you couldn't have just sent a message. You can go ahead and send flowers before,

but you can't go ahead and send a message after our lovely date that we had because we didn't feel as spark. Right, and that's Jasmine. She's been listed, she's on the phone and wants to talk to you. That's right. I got that, yeah. You're so much a romantic.

Like, what do you mean? How are you such a romantic? I hope everybody knows who this guy is and honestly doesn't go on a date with you because you should be a little bit more upfront if you're a romantic. Have common courtesy. My biggest question for you Ryan though is what made you want to buy somebody flowers before you met them and talked about family and all of those types of things. And then like what changed in the moment where you felt comfortable doing that and meeting

her in real life? Well I, I thought so. That is just a coward who cannot even respond back to me. I'm sorry. I'm just, I'm also pretty non-confrontational and I don't like ghosting, but it has become a fact in our generation that that's just how people handle it. So I thought it was better than me explaining all this stuff to you about my rule.

Yeah, the romantic is being vulnerable and having courage and all of that. So I don't even think that's what you are. I think you're actually like a narcissist to be honest, if you're going to go ahead and like, I, this is like, honestly, just unbelievable. You shouldn't love bomb people like that. You shouldn't, you shouldn't do that. I wish you luck. And I was in this park and somebody, I hear it. I was embarrassed that I went so far before we even met. And so I just, you know, your respond or like double back from that. Okay.

Yeah. Well, I really hope you learn your lesson and don't pull such a coward move on the next person that you try and find a spark with because that could mentally mess with people. Like honestly, like my friends aren't even enough now, like having to see a therapist after this is like where it's leading to. Like it's a little ridiculous. You should like, you don't, you can't do that stuff. I'm trying to find the love of my life here as a person that I'm supposed to be

with. I think that's what everybody's job is and that's what they're trying to do. And you're going over here and then just like, Oh, let me just like fake pretend and love bomb you and all this stuff. And then just like stop and not talk to you. Like, what are you doing with your life as a man? Okay. I'm sorry. I have to jump in again really quick. Jasmine, you're right. You shouldn't be ghosting you and all of that stuff. And if you're in therapy, I think that that's wonderful, but that's not entirely his fault. How I think that like, what if you were in my position? What if you were like ghosted like that?

I don't think you understand. No, actually I do. I completely understand. I have been in your position. It's more about the relationship. I'm just kind of hurt right now in the situation. And that's just like, I didn't expect him to even answer. I get that.

We'll just leave it there. Desmond, I want to be really clear. I think you're amazing. I had a great time with you. It was, it was me after our date processing this and realizing, you know what, I had gone too far and I didn't feel something that I wanted to feel before I proceeded. And you deserve better communication about that. But that, that those are the facts. And I didn't wanna lead you on or any further. Whatever.

Ryan, would you like to go on another date with Jasmine? We'll pay for it. I would like to go on another date with you, Ryan. Wait, what? You would? Yeah, I would, absolutely. You would, okay. Jasmine.

Yeah, can we meet tonight? I don't know what we. What? I'm busy tonight, but I do have a friend who I swear I just, I think he came to mind when we went out. I think you guys would actually, I can put you in charge. I swear. No, that's nice. Really? Okay. Cool. All right. Well, thank you guys.

Seems like it worked out. Thank you. All right. Well, thank you guys. Seems like it worked out. Ah! Thank you. All right, cool. Jewel's first day follow-up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorney, online at advocateslaw.com. Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble. More of you shamelessly sending playlists,

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