First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - William & Jen - The Jazz Bar Date That Went Sideways

Episode Date: November 21, 2025

In this episode of the First Date Follow Up, William thought he planned the perfect upscale night out, jazz bar, wine, the works. But something during the date made Jen disappear for weeks. Today, the team calls her to uncover what really happened. Was it the food? The vibe? Or something way more unexpected? Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh  Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. First Day to Follow Up, powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys, online at Advocateslaw.com. William is on the phone today for a first day follow-up. He's getting ghosted by a woman named Jen. So in a few minutes, we're going to call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him.

and maybe get him a second date. But first, William, how long has it been since you heard from Jen? Man, at this point, it feels like forever. It's been weeks. Aw, okay. Weeks. I don't know what's going on. Okay.

We're a good date. I mean, look, I liked her. I like her. She's just one of those chicks that just seem better than me that would help me become a better man. Okay. I don't know. Everything about her seems sophisticated. seems so sophisticated.

All right, well, tell us about your date. Well, you know, like, you know, I was trying, you know, as I said, she's kind of sophisticated, a beautiful woman, very elegant. And, you know, so I wanted to do something nice. And I don't usually do nice things. I don't usually do nice things. So I was like, oh, let's go to a jazz bar. So I found, like, a little cute little quaint wine slash jazz bar.

You know, it's nice and dim and dark. And I was just like, yeah, this is the vibe. if I can't win it with this, then I don't know what else will. Where then, she's ordering stuff. And, you know, like, I don't think I would order, but, you know, she's the type of woman who's just right out of the back, like, no, I want this, this, and this, and this.

And I'm like, okay, all right, girl, I like that. You know, you're taking some charge, too. You know what you want? She ordered, like, a circuitry board. I grew up on government cheese, so for me, block cheese chopped up, you know, some bologna. she's ordering all the stuff I mean honey cones are coming out

there's four different type of olives I'm looking I'm trying to act like I'm cool oh yeah I do this every day get that baby get this that's totally fun but at the end of day like realistically I'm like holy crap I didn't know all this comes with a board of cheese I'm looking at the price too like

just for some cheese I mean look I was enjoying this and, you know, we'll have great conversations or laughing. I even caught her, like, looking at me and feeling some type of way.

So I'm thinking, it was good. The dinner's going well, we're enjoying the music, and, you know, you see, you see those movies where the girl has, like, the hair over their face, and you can just move the hair behind the air, and it's kind of, like, a smooth way.

Yeah. That didn't happen. That didn't happen. She had, like, some mustard on her face. Let me just go ahead and wipe this off you And I can be smooth Look, I'll take care of you baby I didn't know the mustard

Was not mustard It was makeup Oh Oh It's makeup So You know, I'm like, well I wiped it off

And I'm looking at my thumb I'm like, oh, that's not mustard You know She was real cool about it She didn't get embarrassed She was real cool about it So she just let you like touch your face though She just sat there and was like

He's coming in to touch my face and she was and she didn't budge yeah I didn't really I was so focused on trying to be cool I don't know if she she did have an issue with it but she seemed cool like afterwards she laughed it off and we're still having a great time and you know tonight we gave her hug and you know I didn't get the kiss but I definitely got the hug and a hug felt great okay she said she enjoyed herself so I called her you know being a good guy called her the day after and and kept on calling and calling. Did she say anything about meeting up again when you guys left?

You know, I don't think so. But, I mean, but at the same time, she said she had a really, really good time. And I was already thinking about taking her meet her my mama eventually. Oh, no. She's the same to be like, oh, I can bring her home. All right. Well, we'll play a song, come back, and then call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you and maybe get you a second date, okay?

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Had a good time I ate some chakouterie You know And I wiped off some Some mustard That was on her face And it wasn't mustard It was makeup

She laughed about it That's kind of awkward Yeah She laughed about it She laughed about it We had a good time Like she said she enjoyed itself Gave me a great

Embraceful hug And that was it All right Well are you ready for us to call her? I mean, you liked her so much. You said you'd take her home to your mom. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I didn't tell her that. Right. That's just that energy that you were feeling. All right. Here we go. I'm going to call her, okay? Okay. Hello?

Hi, I speak to Jen, please. This is Jen, who's this? Hi, Jen, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Jen. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria.

And my name's Jubal. How are you? I'm okay. Hi. Hi. Have you ever listened to the show before? Yeah. I mean, not consistently, but I know who you are.

Okay. Hey, that's cool. We're calling you today because we got an email about you from somebody who does listen, probably a little more than you. Okay. And we do a segment on the show. I don't know if you've heard it before. It's called the first date follow up. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then you end up ghosting them,

they can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. Okay. And we got an email from a guy named William who thinks that you're awesome, but you haven't called him back since your date. And he's wondering if you would tell us why. Oh, okay. Well, no, so the date was great. we were having a we were in a wonderful time jazz club and uh everything was cool until the

sharky board came out and um he started to smell everything like like deeply and every single bite was it because he liked the senses like is it one of those things where it's like you smell it and then you eat it and then you have a better appreciation for it I know what you're saying but no this is more like quality control like we got we got this cheese thing and he just he picked everything up and and was like checking it for for quality is the cheese the meat like how checking it for quality I'm just kind of confused like picking up a piece of cheese and looking it over on all sides and poking it and like suspiciously you know like it like a one of the people who smell wine the smollier yeah like a collier but but but for lunchebles

like you didn't trust it that he's like he didn't trust it exactly he wasn't doing it to be funny and at first I thought he was doing it to be funny you know but then when he didn't address it and he didn't make a joke it just became clear that he was you know there were fancy cheeses on the cheese board and one of them was I can't remember the exact name of it but was a kind of blue cheese

and he he wanted to send that back because it was moldy you know like it has the veins and stuff in it. I tried very calmly to, like, say, oh, that's, you know, that's just the way that it is. That's the way that it comes. But he just, he was a little upset about it. He was, like, almost emotional about it.

All right, what am I supposed to do? I'm not going to eat mold. Hey, Jen. Jen, that's William. He's actually on the phone listening. He wants to talk to you. Um, okay. Hi.

So that's it. Jim, that's the reason why you've been ghosted me because I won't eat. moldy cheese. I don't think that's fair. We were at a five-star wine bar, not a questionable food truck. Yeah, a five-star restaurant.

They shouldn't be selling like mold and stuff. Like, that's complete bullshit. I mean, I'm spending all this money. Why did it give me bad food? Were you scared of the breed, too? It did look a little suspicious. It was melting.

That's not good cheese. It's supposed to be like that. hard and in a block it's supposed to be like that thank you all these different type of cheeses I figured at least one would be right I'm spending all this money and at least give me some cheddar it was four different colors some some of some had like strains it didn't make no sense what was milton I don't even know what is it like it was all supposed to be like that you you that's a breadstick William and the in the menu didn't say any description about moldy cheese or different colored cheese or melting cheese.

It said artisan cheese and it was not artsy. It was very wrong. And then the smell alone, the smell that makes sense, I swear I had sweaty socks that smell the same. Oh, no. What? Maybe you just don't like cheese because that is what the cheeses are supposed to look like and smell. I love cheese. Cheese is great.

But it should come in a plastic package or in a box. All right, well, so is that the only reason you're ghosting him because, you know, he's not into those fancy, um, stinky cheeses? Uh, I mean, we were at, we were at a restaurant with like live jazz and, and, and, and a $20 olive plate. The cheese, it was fine, you know, I just, I don't, I spent $20 on olives. I'm trying to say, all those fancy cheeses, I don't be knowing that. Look, my cheese is that the cheese. take factory. I just,

we can go there again, just give me another chance. I'll stop smelling cheese. I was a little bit out of my comfort zone. That's just not the place I do. I just really, really, really want to impress you. And I really like you. And it just sucks that I feel ghosted by you.

So hopefully you give me another champ. Would you like another day with William? We'll pay for it. Well, look, we don't have to go anywhere that you're not comfortable. I didn't ask to go to a jazz club. You don't have to take me somewhere that you wouldn't normally go. It's very sweet that you wanted to impress me, but, like, you know, impress me by being yourself. That's dating.

That's true. I'm not impressed, so. No, hey. William, confidence. You got to have more confidence, man. You're either selling it to me or you're not. Jim, would you like to, like, go with me to Buffalo Wild Wings, like, sometimes? Aw.

Yes. Yes. Yay. William, you did it. You got another date, man. Just don't get that blue cheese dip with your wings. I'm Robert Smith. This is Jacob Goldstein.

And we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history. and some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline is. The most Texas story ever. Listen to business history on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arness.

On the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderama, I'll take you in a journey to Desi's life, how he redefined American television and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like hours on screen. Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA, and I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like most guys, I haven't been to the doctor in way too long. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Every week, we're breaking down the world of men's health from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility. We'll talk science without the jargon and get your real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about.

So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. On an all new episode of IHeartRadios Las Culturistas, Emmy, Golden Globe, and Tony Award winner, Sarah Paulson. spills on red carpet hacks. We saw these pictures and you're like, what is the story with this? She gets real about the inspiration behind her roles. Oh, no, there is no end to how people will behave. And she puts host Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yag on notice.

I don't think so, honey. I feel very, very triggered by this. Open your free IHeart Radio app. Search Lus, Culturistas, and listen to the full podcast now. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends,

people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevon Stage,

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast. Thank you.