First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Zach & Julia: She Ghosted Him Over One Unexpected “Ick” 😬

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

In this First Date Follow Up on The Jubal Show, Zach thought his date with Julia went incredibly well. They had amazing conversation, shared dessert, and even kissed more than once. So why did she suddenly ghost him for two weeks? 🤔 When the show calls Julia to find out what happened, her reason takes everyone by surprise—and it might be one of the most unexpected dating “icks” we’ve heard yet. 😳 Did Zach actually do something wrong, or did one small detail completely ruin his chances? And what shocking confession does Julia make during the call? 👀 Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn.

A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, it's Joe Interesting, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my dear friend, Krista Williams. It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change. Dance with the breakdowns. the embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves. So I'm like delusionally proud of my chart.

Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what. you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcasts. Next Monday, our 2026 IHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at South by Southwest. Since the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talent and creators in the industry. And the winner is... Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. Thank you so much. IHeartRadio. Thank you to all the other nominees.

You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, free at veeps. Or the Veeps app. First date follow-up. Powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys. Online at Advocateslaw.com. Zach is on the phone today for a first day follow-up, He's getting ghosted by a woman named Julia.

So in a few minutes, we'll call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting in. But first, Zach, how long has it been since you went out with Julia? It was about two weeks ago. We went out on date. Okay. Has it been two weeks since she talked to you? Yeah. So it's been two weeks since she talked to me.

Oh, okay. Have you tried to talk to her? I did try. I sent her some messages. And at one point I sent her a picture that I took of her eating. you know, some Jeremy Sue that, you know, from our date and I don't know she didn't respond to that whatsoever. Okay.

I know it was a cute picture. I don't know. Tell us a little bit about the date. Well, you know, we went out for dinner at this cool little Italian spot. It was, you know, really great food and great wine and I thought the conversation was flowing. You know, it's actually one of the best first dates I've ever been in. And when I, we sat down, she looked at me. me right away and asked if I kissed her right away as soon as you sat down.

Oh. And she said she wanted to get the nerves like an anticipation out of the way right away. I kind of like that. I could see that. Yeah, right. I loved how bold she was. And I, you know, kind of calmed everyone's nerves. I felt like it was, I felt like I knew her forever, you know, was one of those moments.

It was like, oh, wow. And then, um, in a way, after that we went, uh, to this dessert cafe that my family's like my friend's family owns and they gave us a tour and that's where I had the tirami sue like we were in the back kitchen and we had some terribi sioux there yeah it was fun and my um my friend's family thought she was a doll um and like we kiss again there so this was like a second time so I'm like all right she's really into me did she kiss you again or did you like grab her and have a moment um she kissed me I don't know I was like okay she's this is second time and I know she seems really so smart and she's really funny.

I don't know. I just kind of think she's great. I don't really know what happened, you know. Why do you think she's ghosting you? Well, there was one moment. I keep coming back to. I don't know if this was it, but I don't know if she thinks I'm a pervert. I was just kind of like zoning out.

What? I was kind of zoning out at one point and it was like I was staring at her cleavage, but I wasn't. I was just kind of like zoning out and looking down. Okay. Did she notice that you were doing that? Yeah, she called me out on it. And we laughed and I think she understood

I was in staring. Maybe it's because you were zoning out while she was talking. I'm sorry, that's a thought. I don't know. I just kind of zoned out for a second. She said, he's staring. I'm like, you know. That would be a little awkward. She just sounds like an awkward moment.

It was, but. Was this after the kisses or before? This was in between kisses. Oh, so she kissed you again after that, okay. Yeah. Then I wouldn't think it would be that, but we can see. Zach is on the phone and Zach is getting ghosted by Julia, so we're about to call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him

and maybe get him a second date if he wants one. But first, Zach, why don't you recap your date again real quick? Yeah, so I went out to dinner with her, and it was like our first date, And I was saying she kissed me right away when we sat down. So she said she wanted to get our kind of nerves out of the way. And I said, that was great. And we had such great time. And then we went to like my friend's family's cafe and we had like,

with curious me in the back room. And then she kissed me a second time back then. So I was thinking, oh, like, we've kissed twice. Things are going great. Yeah. And this was two weeks ago. And I've sent her messages. I even sent her like a couple days ago.

I said her a message even of a picture I took of her eating to Jeremy Sue and she again, she still hasn't responded. Okay. So. Well, you ready for us to call her? Yeah, I'm ready. Okay, here we go. Hi, may I speak to Julia, please?

Yeah, this is she. Hey, Julia, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Julia. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal.

How are you? I'm good. Wow. Hi, hello. Hi. Have you ever listened to the show before? Um, I think my aunt had it in the car once, but I don't listen regularly now. Okay, we have a cool aunt.

Yeah, you do. All right. Apparently. We do a segment on the show. No, you didn't. Well, I don't know. You might have. Depends how you look at it.

We do a segment on the show called the first date follow up. That's where if you go on a date with somebody and you're getting ghosted, you can email us to call the person and find out why you're getting ghosted. Oh, no. We got an email about you from somebody. Are you ghosting somebody? No. Oh, no. It's definitely Zach, right?

Did he email you? Yes, it is. Oh, no. He told us about your date, said he really liked you. Yeah. But then you haven't called him and it's been two weeks now and Zach is wondering what he did like. You guys kissed and everything. He,

Okay, it's not really his fault. He just, I, this is going to sound crazy, but he walks like my ex, like exactly like him. Yeah, and I just, I'm, that's why I'm ghosting him. Because he walks like your ex. Well, he just has this, like, I think I have swag kind of strut. And it just gave me the major ick, you know. I could barely kiss him on the date. Like, the date was going well.

I just, I just, I just needed to get out of there. It was kind of triggering. Didn't you kiss them like twice? Well, yeah, but like, I don't know, like when you see the exact same kind of behavior in somebody that you were with for so many years and then you see it again, it's just I couldn't, I can't be around it. Like I had to get out of there. Yeah, okay. Wait, wait, wait. Like, it's not happening.

Julia, that's Zach. He's actually on the phone. You're on the phone? Yeah, and he wants to talk to you. Oh, my God. What? Yep, I did do that. I did.

And I just couldn't, I can't do it, Zach. I'm sorry. Like, once I saw your swagger, I could not unsee it. Like, the first time I liked it, I, like, the dinner was fun. But honestly, the tiramisu was a struggle because you walked ahead of me to, like, run to get the door. I almost threw up in that moment. It's so bad. Literally.

I just, I'm sorry, but it was the second kiss was kind of like a pity kiss at that point. I was just trying to get out of there, you know? Wow. But no, no, I could change how I walk, all right? And a pity? Are you serious?

Are you serious with this up right now? Yeah. Sorry, I'm serious. Like, that sounds crazy. You can't change how you walk. I'm really sorry, but I can't unsee it. What's done is, like just done, you know, at this point.

I, look, don't, I had a great time half the time. When you guys are sitting down. But you ran your fingers through my hair. You ran your fingers to my hair the second time we kissed and you held my face and you made it passionate. I don't feel like it was pity. I don't believe you.

I would believe it. I mean, at this point, my God. Your walk just gives me the ick. I can't do it. I can't. I can't. I'm sorry.

I walk. You told me you wanted to show me all of your tattoos. That doesn't sound like it. That's flirting. That's called flirting. A lot of mixed messages. Yeah. But like then it's like I had it in my head.

And then my stupid ex texted me that night too. So I went to talk up with him. And he's still an idiot. Yeah. Wait. So what happened? It's complicated. Did you say that you?

Called your ex? And he'll have up with him after the date? Yeah, my heart of a moment of weakness. Because of his walk? Yes. He was kind of hot. And then the walk and I was like gross. But maybe like my ex is not as dumb as I thought he was.

And he's really stupid. What? Why? It's just not. You sound a little confused. I'm done. I'm so sorry. Look, Zach, I'm sorry.

I hope. You find someone that loves your walk. So, like, you're trying not to have feelings for your ex this whole time and then Zach just triggers it? But you hooked up with your ex after going on a date with Zach because he walked like your ex. And probably reminded her of him. Yeah, there's a lot of, like, emotions and, like, I know it sounds kind of psychosexual. Okay, I get it. I just, I, I, I, look, Zach, I think you're great and you're going to find someone who loves your walk.

Okay, maybe in a different time. What I'm hearing here is you used me to rev yourself up to see your ex again. Look, I didn't know. I didn't, it wasn't intentional. I mean, I did not do that. I was turned on and then disgusted. And then he texted me and I texted him back. And we hadn't even decided if we were dating yet.

You don't get to tell me who I can f***. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, my God. Except my apology. Okay? I don't want to go out with you and you, it has nothing to do with you. Literally. Julia, would you like a second date with Zach will pay for it? No! Jubils. Dirty little secret.

I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand, would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract.

Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop.

What was on his screen would change Sassie. his life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, it's Joe Interesting, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most. vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my dear friend, Krista Williams. It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change. Dance with the breakdowns. The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves. So I'm like delusionally proud of my chart. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. Next Monday, our 2026 IHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at South by Southwest.

This is the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talent and creators in the industry. And the winner is... Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. Thank you so much. IHeart Radio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, free at Veeps.com or the Veeps app.

This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.