First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show - Zach & Kylie: He Drew Her… Then Got Ghosted?! 😬🎷

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

In this First Date Follow-Up on The Jubal Show, Zach thought he nailed a dreamy night—live jazz, tacos under the moon, and even a sweet (if slightly awkward) kiss. But after just one date, Kylie completely disappears. No texts back. No explanation. Just silence. What went wrong on what seemed like a perfect romantic date? Was it something he said… or something he did that totally changed her perception? 😳 When we finally get Kylie on the phone, the truth behind the ghosting takes a turn no one saw coming—sparking a hilarious and awkward conversation about attraction, first impressions, and mixed signals. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here…➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com  Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow  X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow  Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow  YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So in a few minutes, we'll call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date. But first, Zach, how long has it been since you heard from Kylie? Oh, it's been 11 days? All right, we'll tell us a little bit about it. How many times you tried to reach out to her? Probably, I think four now. Okay. It was like four text messages, four phone calls?

I started off with just like a, you know, like a follow-up text message the next day, you know, thanking her for a fun night and then, you know, replies, then I waited a few days. Yeah, and then this morning I did a little, oh, see, now that I'm thinking about it, It sounds like I'm totally at fault and I sound weird, but I played a little jazz riff on my harmonica as a voice note and sent it to her this morning. It sounds like you like her and that you're making effort to get a hold of her. So now we just got to figure out why she's not into it. Tell us about the date. Sure.

So we went to this rooftop jazz night, hence my harmonica thing. Okay. This vibey. Yeah. And we had a great time. She completely dug it. I'm really into jazz, so I enjoyed it in her company. And then we grabbed some tacos after.

It just was, it felt like a movie because we like sat on this curb and we're talking to each other with these tacos in our hands and the moon was out. There's like hot sauce on our fingers. I don't know. She didn't know weird stuff like I am. Like I collect old cereal boxes, vintage boxes. she was like respect you know okay good and she was asking me about it and I showed her pictures and I was like well you know she just made me feel good when we kissed also and it was this for me at least this adorable moment because we were both kind of awkward but not not in a bad way

not like it was a bad kiss but just like we were nervous and both kind of like trying not to mess it up mm-hmm you really like her and you sound like a hopeless romantic why do you think You're getting ghosted. She actually mentioned her ex just briefly about how he would, like, moisture his elbows. And she, like, likes it when a man takes care of herself. And I was like, I was like, ooh. Zach is on the phone, and he's getting ghosted by Kylie. So we're about to call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date.

But before we do that, Zach, why don't you break down your date for us one more time? Sure. Went to a cool jazz place. It was the vibe. We had what I thought was very romantic moments, had tacos on a curb. talked about each other, laughed, felt comfortable, kissed awkwardly, but in a sweet way. And I've been trying to reach out a few times with kind of romantic, sweet intentions and maybe a little too much, I guess. Okay.

And I'm not like the wife. She goes to me. Ready for us to call her? Please. Okay. Here we go. Hello? Hi, man.

I speak to Kylie, please. Yeah, this is kind of a name. What's it? Kylie, how are you? This is the Jubal show. It's a radio show. What's up, Kylie? My name's Nina.

Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal. How are you? Um, I'm good. I actually like listen to you guys sometimes. Oh, cool. Sweet. Well, guess what, Kylie?

We got an email about you from somebody. An email? Yeah. We do a segment on the show called the first date follow up. That's where if you go on a date with somebody and you end up ghosting them, they can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting. And we got an email about you from somebody. Oh, God.

Do you know who that could be? I think I know. It's Zach, isn't it? Yes, it is Zach. He said he actually reached out to you today. Yeah, I know. I know. I've been getting the messages.

Okay. And you're just not responding to them? Yeah. I mean, I don't want to be an ass-a-k, but, yeah, like, I ghosted him. I'm not like trying to hide that at all. Can you tell us why you're ghosting him? Yeah. Um, so we went out and we went to like this rooftop jazz, like thing and it was nice and sweet and then we like grabbed some tacos afterwards and everything was going great. He was like charming and, you know, funny and very sweet too. And then like,

And we're like eating the tacos, we're talking. And then he grabs like a napkin and starts like drawing me. And I'm like, well. Drawing you? Yeah. Out of nowhere. You know, I think, oh, this is kind of like cute. Kind of like the, you know, in Titanic when like Leonardo is like drawing case.

And I'm thinking maybe like maybe you watch that and, you know, I don't know. But, you know, that wasn't really the problem. The thing is, when I looked at the drawing, oh my God. And he kept saying that he's kind of like a little bit of artists. He has like all these different hobbies. But like the way that he drew me, I kind of like looked like a melted candle. Like I had one eyeball, like this huge chin.

And I, you know, I don't want to. I thought at first it was like kind of like a funny thing that he was doing. But I kind of like made fun of it. I said, oh my God, like this kind of looks like a Picasso disaster type of thing. And then he said like, no, no, no, no, no. You know, this is, I mean, looks don't matter at all. Like you're just a good person and that's what matters. I'm like, whoa, are you trying to say that

I'm ugly. You know what I mean? And so he became like really awkward. Because he drew a melted picture of you. You think he called you ugly. No, no, because when I made fun of the drawing, he took it like in the way like he didn't laugh at all. And he just kept trying to say like, oh no, you're like a good person inside. And that's what, what matters. And he just kept going on and going things like that. You know, and you go. Are you ghosting him because he's, he's not good at drawing? Or because you think he called you ugly? But here's the thing.

I think, like, attraction is a big thing, you know, in a relationship. And if he's not attracted to me, like, I don't want to be. Yeah. I don't want to be in a relationship. Kylie, Zach's on the phone. And he wants to talk to you. Oh, no. I know you guys said to be quiet, but I just, I'm,

I was like smiling so big from this story. And then all of a sudden I'm like, what? No, no, no, no. That picture that I drew, I was just trying to be, I guess, in my own odd way, deep in a way. Like it was an abstract little thing. It's like I draw abstract art all the time. I was trying to say that I like you for who you are. Are you attracted to Kylie, Zach?

A thousand percent. Oh, okay. Okay. That sounds like that was her problem. Oh, my gosh. that is crazy. I had no idea that that was something in the moment. It was like some emotional realism sketch.

I was trying to pull off. Oh, well, do you think I'm like an emotional person, like a tortured person? Like I don't need a man to save me. Like, this is not. Wait, this is turned. I'm still confused. It's happening. Look, I think you're beautiful despite all the emotional baggage.

What? Like, that is not helping things at all. Like, now you're saying that I'm attractive, but like a crazy person? No, I'm not saying that. We're all hurt little duck wings. I just want to take your wings and mend them. Oh. Just because I think you're a beautiful person on the inside doesn't mean I don't think

you're beautiful on the outside. I think you're gorgeous. I want you inside and out. Whoa, whoa, wow, wow. Hey, in that case, Kylie, would you like another date with Zach? Will pay for it? I mean, I think, like, I'm understanding him now which is kind of cute, but he talks a little too much, you know, and the way he explains things is a little unique, but like, now I think I understand that, you know, he's nervous and,

I mean, I, it's kind of cute, right? Is that a yes? Yeah, yeah. It sounds like he really likes you. So, I mean, I think that's cute. Yes. All right. Fantastic.

I actually already have a spot that I'm thinking about. So thank you. Thank you, Kylie. And I promise if I draw you again, I'm going to go for realism. I think this is the beginning of your healing journey, Kylie. And I'm glad to walk. the path with you. Yeah. All right. Congratulations. I'm Bailey Taylor and this is It Girl. This podcast is is all about going deeper with the women's shaping culture right now. Yes, we will talk about the

style and the success, but we are also talking about the pressure, the expectations, and the real work behind it all. As a woman in the industry, you're always underestimated. So you have to work extra hard in a way that doesn't compromise who you are in your integrity. You know, I like to say I was kind of like a silent ninja. Listen to It Girl with Bailey Taylor on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor.

But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral. the dating contract.

Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing.

And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's Jill Winterstine, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today, I'm talking with my dear friend, Krista Williams.

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