Fitzdog Radio - Dusty Slay - Episode 1106
Episode Date: August 8, 2025From the trailer parks of Alabama to the bright lights of the Grand Ole Opry comedian Dusty Slay hangs out and makes me laugh. Follow Dusty Slay on Instagram @DustySlay Watch my special "You Know Me"... on YouTube! http://bit.ly/FitzYouKnowMe Twitter: @GREGFITZSHOW Instagram @GREGFITZSIMMONS FITZDOG.COM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to Fitzdog Radio.
I'm in the Upper West Side of Manhattan at my mother-in-law's apartment, and she's in the next room with my wife.
So this is one of those podcasts that might be a little big cleaner and more.
restraint shall we say um my guest today is dusty sleigh i recorded him a couple weeks ago i
been on the road for two weeks everywhere chicago i flew to chicago did some shows out in i i want to
say chicago it was actually batavia batavia about 45 minutes west of the city had some fun shows
uh so i went chicago then new york up to my sisters in westchester
I spent four days, hung out with my mom.
My mom is, she is not a nutritionist.
She is not a health fanatic in any way at all.
She's 80, she'll be 83 this summer.
And she was downstairs at my sister's house in the basement.
And she's got a little apartment set up down there that she stays in in the summertime.
She's in Florida the rest of the year.
Anyway, she's downstairs.
It's the morning. Morning. You know, 10 a.m. And I yell down to the basement. I said,
Mom, do you want some eggs? And she goes, oh, great, what kind? And I said, I said scrambled. And she goes, oh, no, I thought you said cake at 10 o'clock in the morning.
So we're trying to get her to exercise.
We did a bunch of outdoorsy stuff.
We went to a museum.
I had her wash.
You walked 10,000 steps, which was pretty impressive.
I've been in the city for like four days and walking like crazy, 16, 17, 18,000 steps every day.
Went to another museum.
Went to the Whitney.
And what else do we do?
I mean, you know, you know.
you just look at stuff.
You just walk around New York and you look at stuff.
There was a bus stop on the Upper West Side.
It's got a realtor, an ad for a real estate agent to buy a home.
It's like, I think you guys, I don't know who's doing the marketing for the realtors,
but not a lot of people riding the bus with the disposable income to buy a house.
uh no buses bus people are renters they're lifelong renters things have not worked out
if you want to advertise things on a bus stop i'd go with like oodles of noodles uh divorce lawyers
uh knock off Nike sneakers you know not homes
went today i took my my son's here he's been here free he's been living
here for a few weeks. He's staying in my wife's mother-in-law's apartment. She's away for the
summer. So he's up in Harlem for the summer looking for a job. He's got some good leads. He's
very excited. And so I took him and his roommate and my nephew Rowan and my buddy Michael O'Brien.
Took him to Keene Steak House. I've talked about it on the show before. If you ever get to New York and
You want, it's not cheap, but it's the best steakhouse in the city.
It's a chop house.
They sell mutton chops or porterhouse steaks or fillets.
They got it all.
But you go there for the mutton chops, which is a piece of sheep.
And it's the second oldest restaurant in New York.
I think the oldest is the homestead.
And then there's this.
And it's, whatever, I'm not going to get it.
If you listen to the podcast, I've talked about it in detail before.
It's an amazing old restaurant.
And so we walk in, and my nephew, who is a monster, he's gigantic.
He was in the Navy, he was almost a Navy SEAL, and he works out like a fucking maniac,
MMA, all that shit.
And he eats like a horse, and he always over-orders when you go to a restaurant.
He orders so much.
And this is an expensive restaurant.
So I walk and I go, I go, Ron, by the way, don't over-order in this place.
it's five of us and I know I'm picking up to check so so we sit down and the waiter comes
there anybody want anything to drink I go I yeah I'm good with the tap water everybody else is like
yeah tap water's fine and he's like I'll get that specialty ginger ale and then any appetizers
and he goes yeah we'll have the the the thick bacon it's it's a $34 dollar appetite yeah okay
and then he orders another appetizer and then he's got a
He ordered, I forget what he ordered for an entree, and then dessert.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
Last time I take this kid out.
No, I won't.
I'll take him out again.
I love him.
But Jesus, what a pain in the ass.
The bill was $634 for five of us with tip.
Yeah.
Yep.
A little light lunch.
So I did, I did, we might be drunk.
yesterday with Sam Marell and Mark Norman and had such a blast. Those guys are so easy and
funny. This is how all podcast experiences should be. You sit down. There's a little bit of
planning. They ask you for some pet peeves in advance. They do some research on you. And I've
known them both for a lot of years. So like they, we know what to talk about. But it was so much
goddamn fun. Said some stuff I probably should have said. But that's what you do with these guys.
and hopefully you don't get in trouble for it.
And I guess that's out this week or next week.
I'm doing a bunch of spots.
I'm only doing spots one night this week because it's kind of a vacation.
My wife flew in.
I did some gigs in Philly and Jersey Shore and now I'm in the city for like six days.
Flew my wife in.
She's here, happy to hang out with Owen.
And so I just, I'm going out to do shows one night.
So I got like four spots tonight.
And that'll be fun.
And then I'm coming to your town, people.
I'm going to be in La Jolla at the Comedy Store.
That's August 29th through the 34th.
Oh, Comedy Store.
Just just that I've meant to be plugging this,
but I'm going to do a new hour at the Comedy Store in the belly room,
which is the intimate little room upstairs.
I'm going to bring some special guests in,
probably be a surprise name or two that you'd like to see as well as me.
That's August 16th at the,
the Comedy Store at Belly Room.
Then I'm coming to Denver, Comedy Works, Connecticut, Comics, September 26 and 27, Fairbanks, Alaska, Vegas, Chicago, New Orleans, San Francisco, Cleveland.
Go to Fitzdog.com, get some tickets and come out.
My guest today is a very funny guy.
I don't say this a lot in my intros.
My guest today grew up in a trailer park, which is a big part of his comedy.
Uh, he's got a very interesting take on the world. Alabama, I think he grew up in.
And, uh, he's a regular on the Grand Ole Opry. I don't say that a lot about my guests.
But he's also like, you know, done a ton of legit shows, all the late night shows. He's had a bunch of specials that blew up.
Uh, and he's just a super funny, really good comic. And I was really high, he's in town for a little bit promoting a new special.
He lives in Nashville, but he was in L.A. a couple weeks ago.
I grabbed them. So please enjoy my conversation with the Great Dusty Slay.
All right. Yeah, all right. Hey, I'm pumped to be here. Thanks for having me. We're having a good time.
having a good time. We're doing it by Zoom, which I can't remember the last time I did that,
but I know you're promoting your new special and wet heat, so I wanted to have you on and talk
about that, tell you how much I enjoyed it. It's outstanding. Well, I appreciate it. I appreciate
you having me. I wanted to do in studio, and I know that in studio is the best, but I guess I'm going to
be there when you'll be gone and I don't live there. So I appreciate you accommodating me.
Well, I saw you. We did a show at the comedy store together. I don't know about a month ago.
What a fun show. It's just, you know, there's something about the store right now. It's got a new
vibrancy. There's a lot more people coming in. I saw the booker come right up to you after the show
and she got your number and she's like, I want you to come here when you're in town.
And that's sort of like what's happening at the store now
is they're starting to really bring in people
that should have been here for a while.
And I'm glad you're part of that.
Well, I love it.
I mean, it's so fun.
That show, that Jeremiah Watkins show is so fun.
Yeah, it's crazy.
It makes me nervous every time,
especially in the comedy store.
I've only done it one time.
This would be my only two times I've done the comedy store.
And, yeah, now I'm going to go out without any,
without any jokes prepared.
And it's fun.
I love it.
I had a great time.
In case people don't know,
Jared,
I think it's called comedy on the spot,
and you go out,
and the audience yells out suggestions,
and you have to just come up with a bit on the spot.
And it's a great way to write new material,
and it's a great way to get the juices flowing.
Like,
I think you did improv as well at some point, right?
Yeah,
I started comedy doing improv.
I lived in Charleston, South Carolina, and we used to, you know, I used to get in there
and pass the clap and zip zaps up and all those sorts of things.
And if people don't do improv, they don't know what that means.
But, you know, it's so fun to do improv.
And then you get into stand-up and stand-up is like, well, this is more fun than improv.
Yeah.
But you're still like, you know, wanting to do a little improv.
But I feel like they don't always cross over because if you go see us,
stand-up show. People want you to, you know, they want you to have your material down.
Well, I think it depends on the performer. Some people do a lot of crowd work. I think a lot of
people do it poorly. And the people that do it well, that's a show that I think, like, I have
a hard time following somebody that destroys with crowd work. Like, there's a guy named Rick
Ingram at the store who he just did a world tour with Chris Rock and he does all crowd work.
in in a bag is very good um so you know it's it's tough to follow because it puts the audience in a
different mindset where they suddenly feel like everything the person is saying is occurring
to them at the moment whereas a lot of them it's a little trickery it's stuff they've done many
times but they can play it off as as it's actually in the moment yeah it's like the newspaper
versus social media, right?
You're like, the news media, you're like, social media,
you're getting it all right now.
The newspaper, you're like, what is this?
Come out this morning?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's happening right now?
And I think that happens, right?
The guy come out really good at crowdwork,
and then you come out with your prepared jokes,
and they're like, what, do you write this?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Come up with jokes at home?
Yeah, there was this great moment on tough,
I think the greatest moment in the history.
Remember that show,
Tough Crowd,
Colin Quinn. I do remember it. I didn't watch it, but I do remember it. Yeah. So it was a panel show,
and it was very edgy. It was four comics, and then Colin Quinn would host it. And the great Greg
Geraldo came on, and Dennis Leary was also on the panel. And Dennis Leary decides just to go after
Gerard. Gerardo does a joke. And it was like a written hard joke about a top, like before you did
the show, they would give you five or six topics from the news. So you'd be prepared. And
And so Greg Gerardo does like a hard joke.
And then Leary goes, look at this guy writing all his jokes.
You should have seen the backstage.
You had pieces of paper.
He's scrolling it all out.
And Geraldo, who's, you know, like a young comic.
And Leary is this kind of legendary TV movie star.
And Greg goes, well, yeah, that's called preparing for the show.
And then Leary's like, you were probably the kid in high school that was like, hey, teach you
forgot to give us homework.
And then Girolda, and I'm paraphrased, this went on much longer.
But then Girolda goes, well, maybe if you had written more, your show would still be on the air.
And the crowd went crazy.
And like Leary literally had to be held back.
He wanted to beat the shit because he's a fighter.
And he wanted to come after Geralda.
But, you know, Girolda's a tough, you know, he was a tough kid from Queens and he could take care of himself.
So it was, it was so beautiful.
beautifully awkward. And nobody knew what to do after that.
It's so funny. The guys, I mean, it's almost cliche, but the guys that love to dish it out the
most can hardly take it. I mean, how you got to come at a guy for preparing? And then if he gets
you, you want to fight? Right. Come on, buddy. Yeah. Now, it's true. The insult people really are
the most thin-skinned out of everybody. And that's why these roasts,
Everything is a roast now.
Either it's Comedy Central doing roasts,
or you got, you know, roast battle that they do at the store.
That's a big podcast.
And you got Kill Tony, which is essentially just a roast.
And which I just did this week.
And I roasted one of the comedians.
And he fucking roasted me back.
And he was like, you look so old.
You're like, yeah, the AIDS.
And I just looked at it.
I'm like, yeah, I kind of do.
I know.
And I didn't have a comeback and I just said
So I like made fun of his pants or something
But like here I am this season comic
And this is just like this young Austin
Buck who kind of got the better of me
It sucked
That's why I don't like to do crowdwork
Because I'm like I'm always afraid
The audience member is going to be funnier than me
Yeah
I'm like I can write my material
And I can improv
I can flow with it.
it, but I don't like to go at people in the audience.
No, you flow, I like your little flows and you're special.
They're small and they're very organic.
Like, at one point, like you picked up your bottle of water and you went to screw the cap off
and it was already unscrewed.
And you took a moment to comment on it and you got like two or three beats out of it.
And then you went right back into your act and like somebody had a funny laugh.
And you noticed that and you did a call back to one of your jokes.
And no, I like that.
I don't like what somebody can't acknowledge anything throughout their entire set.
Like I feel like that gets, then you feel like you're watching TV.
Well, that's, you know, that's how I used to be.
I used to be very scripted and I didn't want anything to throw me off.
But just stage time, you go.
And now I love to do that.
I love to comment on little things.
I have made so many water bottle jokes, you know, that I actually have a joke that I'll do
and I'll do my whatever water bottle joke I'm doing and then I go, that's not the worst
water bottle joke I've ever done.
Yeah.
I love to do that.
I think that stuff's fun.
Right, right, right.
And it really does ground the audience in the moment.
It really makes them feel like they're at a show that nobody else has seen or will see.
This is their show.
And it doesn't take a lot, you know.
It's nice to open up talking about, like,
Nikki Glazer is really good at whatever city she goes to.
She does five minutes of hard jokes about Cincinnati or Montreal,
wherever she is.
And, you know, that takes work.
But it pays off in spades because now you've entered the show with them feeling,
like, A, you give a shit about their city.
B, you're honest
to what's going on in the moment.
C, you can write jokes without a lot of
without a lot of time.
You know, it's great.
Yeah, when you phrase it like that,
it really makes me feel bad that I don't do it.
That's what I'm here for, Dustin.
Yeah, you kind of lost me at the hard work part
at the beginning where you're like,
these comics that work so hard, I go,
why did you get into comedy it's like you know i do like to be prepared right but you know i'm like
i like to build my act and uh and then and then improv but i i like to build the act by improvving you
know in a sense where i have an idea of what i want to do and then i build on that but um you know
sometimes i'll have jokes about the city and it'll be really good and then i and then i'll put that out
as a clip and it feels good.
Yeah.
I don't know why I don't do it everywhere I go, but I think it's the hard work part.
Yeah.
Well, that's what the plane is for.
Yeah.
That's the, I write 80% of my writing is done on planes, especially when I'm going
coast to coast, because it's like, it's like your own little cubicle.
Your phone doesn't work.
Nobody's going to distract you.
You can't go to the kitchen.
And so I just, I end up like, I have ADHD.
and it makes me hyper-focused.
And I'll go through my set, I'll work on transitions, I'll come up with maybe something
topical, you know?
Yeah, see, I have been collecting DVDs for many years.
I still buy a lot of DVDs.
Now I rip the DVDs onto my computer, and then I airdrop them to my laptop, and I watch
movies on the plane, old movies that you can't.
find anywhere else yeah and i watched three movies on saturday um it is a complete waste of time
but i i feel like i'm culturally enriching myself yes i'm like oh i've seen all these movies now i
watched uh you know i watched the old incredible hulk i watched the man who shot liberty valence
oh that's a great one and i watched falling down with michael douglas and i felt like i gave myself
a nice variety and it felt good.
Yeah, that's my treat.
When I do my writing, I save, especially coast to coast, I'll save an hour or two at the end
and I download episodes of Netflix shows.
Yeah.
And I'll watch one or two episodes or something as my treat at the end.
That's what I should do.
Reward myself.
My whole life shouldn't be a reward, right?
I should.
Well, you know, if things are different, like,
When I started in Boston, we used to play softball three days a week.
We used to make prank calls with each other just to make each other laugh.
We'd go out to lunch.
We'd sleep late.
We'd stay out late.
And now it's like, oh, I got to do a podcast.
I got to do social media.
I got to go do an audition for something I know I'm not going to get.
You know, there's just a lot.
And there's not that hang time.
anymore. There's nothing like
working on a thing that you know you're not going
to get. Yes. Right. Yeah,
but I got to do it. Yes.
I can see you being cast and
stuff, though. Have you done any acting?
Not really. I think if I
lived in L.A. or New York, or I would
probably try to get more involved in that.
There's not as much happening in
Nashville. I did
do a small... Nate
Bargazzi, who lives here, has a
movie, and I got a small role
in the movie. I did get a speaking
part. That's pretty sweet. Yeah, but you know, I just enjoy comedy. All I want is to do comedy
and for people to come to my shows. Yeah, right. That's what I need. I like that. It's a rare
breed that's not trying to do too much. But you are launching a podcast as well, right? Well, I have my own
podcast that I've done for a long time called The We're Having a Good Time podcast. Okay. And I've been doing
it for a long time, but really it started, I started it just as a way to stay connected
with people i thought well if i go to let's say springfield missouri this weekend and i do comedy
and i make a bunch of fans and i tell them you know i make a bunch of fans and then i don't come back
for another year they may forget about me but if i can get them to listen to my podcast then they
stay connected to me so when i come back they know is this the one you do with your wife
well we were doing it together we've done it together off and on but uh she's currently off
it and now we have two kids we're talking about the podcast right yes okay got it yeah we're married
and things are going well but uh you know we live together we spend a lot of time together
we raise children together and then it's it's a bit much to also do a podcast together right
she'll she'll come on to keep me on track if i'm slacking too much she'll go all right
you got to be doing your podcast again yeah it shouldn't feel like a job
You know, that's the thing.
Like, I like how Bill Byrd does his.
He just, like, it started out with him just driving.
And he had this app where you talked into your phone and it just recorded it.
And he would just sort of drive around.
You'd hear him yelling at other drivers.
And then he just put it out as a way of, like, you know, unloading every week.
Oh, yeah.
So I think it's about finding your sweet spot.
Like, I love talking to people.
I love, you know, the booking part I don't enjoy because I feel like I don't want to put people on the spot if they don't want to do it.
And I can't remember if I reached out to you or your people reached out to me.
I think I reached out to you, right?
I don't know.
I think they reached out to you.
Yeah, maybe they did.
Yeah, yeah, I think they did.
But so I jumped at it.
And that's always so much easier when somebody reaches out to me because otherwise, like, I don't want to feel like I'm calling in a favor.
or you know yeah and i don't want to hire people to ask to do podcast but i also hate asking to do
podcast it feels better if i hire someone and then they ask people can i do their podcast rather than
me going hey can i do your podcast i don't want to put people on the spot that way to where now
they have to go yes or no to me or leave me on red leave you on red what's
What's that? Like they read my message, but don't respond. Oh, yeah, leave you on red. Yeah, yeah. I think that
should extend to more than just social contact, you know, leave you on red should be something that
people physically, do you like putting a guy in the friend zone? That should be called leaving them
on red. Yeah, I think so. Or maybe we should call leaving them on red putting them in the friend
zone, you know? I asked you to do their podcast and they just put me in the friend zone. Yeah, right.
The, the, because I do get asked by some people to do the podcast. And sometimes I just think, I don't see the angle here. I don't know what we get into. I don't want to just interview another comedian who's just like me. You know, like you're a guy who we have nothing in common other than we are both passionate about the same craft and probably know a lot of the same people. But, you know, we're from different parts of the world. I grew,
up rich. No, not rich, but we had money. I wasn't in a trailer park. Yeah. Well, you know,
that's what I think is fun, right? Because I know, at least I did. Things have changed a little bit,
but I know how to tell people how to become a comic from work in the road. Right. And but I don't
know how to tell people to do things if you move to New York or L.A. I have no idea how that works.
Yeah. But if you wanted to, if you were like, I'm an open micer and I want to, and I want to,
to get on the road. I can tell you how to do it. People don't want to follow it. They don't have
the patience. They don't have. That's right. They want things to happen right away. And then they find out
what the money is as an opener on the road. And they're like, I can't do that. How would I live?
Exactly. When older people will reach out to me and go, is it too late for me to start doing comedy?
I like to know, are you married and do you have kids that you're still raising? And if those answers are
yes, then I say probably.
Yes.
It's probably too late because your wife and kids are not going to understand
while you're driving 10 hours for two nights to make $250.
Right, right.
They're not going to get it.
Yes.
And it can be a real strain on the marriage because like I'm, when I met my wife,
I was already doing this, you know?
So when she was my girlfriend, she saw me going on the road three weekends a month.
And she knew that was part of the deal.
So when I asked her to marry me, she was marrying this version of me.
It's not fair to introduce a new version of yourself to the person.
Yes, 100%.
That's exactly right.
When people are like, have jobs and then they just start comedy, I go, this is not going to work out.
My wife also did comedy when we met.
So I was broke and she was also a comic.
So when things started to get better in comedy, it just made,
our lives better. You know, it wasn't, I didn't have a nine to five and then start doing the
broke comedy stuff. Were you guys ever competitive at any point? Be honest. Not really.
Because my wife's Canadian and she was working on her visa to move here. So by the time,
you know, she actually got here, I was already headlining a lot of clubs, not all clubs,
but I was headlining a lot.
So she was able to come feature for me.
And then when I would feature somewhere, she could come and host.
So we worked that out.
So we never really were competing.
We did have times where she was opening for me and she would do better than me.
Yeah.
And then she would get mad at me for doing better because, like she would go, she would get like,
I think it would bother her, like that I wasn't going to take her anymore if she was doing
better.
And she was like, she would go, you got to do better.
If I'm opening for you, you got to do better.
Right, right.
Well, that's what a spouse should do.
You've got to elevate your game, man.
Whether it's housework or talking about your feelings, I mean, the greatest thing in life,
if you can swing it, is to commit to another person for the rest of your life where you're going to be accountable.
It keeps you honest.
it makes you evolve well 100% and then because you know I never thought I would get married
I think it's a Doug Stanhope joke I've been quoting it for years but Doug had I think he had
a joke where he said about marriage you know he's like hey this is going pretty well why don't
we get the government involved right yeah so that's how I always kind of thought about marriage
I was like there's really no need to do this but then I started dating
someone that's Canadian. And at some point in our relationship, it was like, either I get married or my
girlfriend that I love has to go home to another country. So I was like, let's get married, you know.
It sounds like you had a couple of things to hold over her in this relationship. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
But now she's a citizen. She could leave me at any time. Yeah. But yeah, you know, and then we had kids
and that that elevates the relationship to a whole other level like you start having to think
about your health you're like oh i can't just die now you know i have kids not that i was ever
like thinking i could just die but what did it matter yeah but now i have kids i'm like well i need
to raise my kids well you can die what are they like three and five yeah they're two and four
I just fucking threw two darts at that one, and I got pretty close.
No, I knew they were, I knew they were young.
But, yeah, my feeling was always like once they get to be 18, then I can die.
Because my father died when he was 52, and I'm now 59.
So I feel like I'm on seven years of borrowed time right now.
Okay.
And so I just felt like if I can live until they're 18, then the trauma won't be as bad.
Okay.
Well, my, my dad's live, my dad's still, he's in his 70s.
My granddad lived to 66.
So I always thought if I could make it to 66.
But by the time my son is 18, I'll be, you know, gosh, I'll be 57.
Okay, so about about the same as me.
I'm a little, I would be a little younger than that, but it's kind of good because you had your young,
years. You got to travel. You got to build a career. You got a foundation of a life, you know,
travel. I think it's tough when you have kids in your 20s because then you got a little,
little party who is still looking around going, oh, I could have been with more women. I could
have gone with my buddies to Vegas more, whatever. So I think 30s is a, you know, mid 30s is a great time,
late 30s to have kids. I think so too. Because,
I was a maniac in my 20s, a big drinker, I love drinking.
And I, you know, I also had a, you know, a nine to five job that I make fun of now.
But it's a, it was a good job, you know, I was a sales rep for a pesticide company.
I sold pesticides to Lowe's and Home Depot, you know, and it's a joke, you know, that I make fun of all the time now.
But I, you know, it's a salary position with health benefits.
Yeah.
So if I'd had kids during that time, I would have kept that job.
That's right.
And I would have worked my way up in the company.
Yeah.
And, you know, but who knows, you know, I could have had kids then and gotten my life together a lot sooner.
Who knows?
But did you have to handle the pesticides at all or were you just doing the paperwork?
No, I had to handle the bottles.
Not the, not the liquid itself, but I would spill it on me a lot.
not wash my hands for a long period of time.
So if you'd stayed at that job, you probably would have died at 52, like my father.
Yeah, probably so.
I would have been, because I, you know, when a bottle would get damaged,
the store would want us to write it off.
And then it was our job to take it out of the store and dispose of it.
But I didn't know where to take it.
So I just kept it in the trunk of my car.
And, you know, I'd drive and it would fall over and spill out.
And I had a buddy get into my car one time.
And he goes, what's that smell?
And I was like so used to it.
I didn't even notice it.
And you're like, forget the smell.
There's no bugs in this car.
Have you noticed that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was like, and there was a lot of trash in there too.
There should have been bugs in the car.
Yeah.
He was like, buddy, you got to do something about this.
Yeah.
And that was how long ago that you left that job?
I left it in 2012.
Okay.
So 13 years you've been doing.
doing this? Well, I waited tables for two years after that. And then I actually took the seasonal
job. I moved to Nashville, took the seasonal job in 2014. So halfway through 2014, that job ended,
and I've not worked a job since. So about 10 and a half years, I've been a full-time comic.
And when did you start making good money? Like money where you were actually putting some in the
bank besides just living off of about mid 2018 oh okay so about four years but you know four
years after going full time i i did the uh did jimmy kim alive uh in january of 2018 i did
jfl um about you know i don't remember may maybe of uh i don't know if that's when jfl is
but whenever jfl would have been in 2018 july july july
July. And then late July, I did the Tonight Show. And then I got my management and agents. And
I started to make money in 2018. 2019 was when it really got good. And then 2020, we lost it
all. Oh, because the pandemic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a rough one. That's a rough little
hiccup on the road. Well, is that when you started the podcast? No, I started it in probably
2017. Yeah, so the people that had podcasts through the pandemic had a lifeline. Like you said,
it was a way to keep in touch with your fans and, you know, Kevin's still thinking about you.
And then when you get back on the road again, you're already promoting your stuff. So I want to ask
you about Hollywood Squares because my friend was one of the writers and he said that you were
fantastic. He said you were only in one season and people were talking about afterwards how
they wished that you would have been in more seasons. Did you meet a guy named Mike Gibbons?
I don't know that I didn't meet him, but I don't remember the name. So what was the experience like?
Well, I thought it was really fun. You know, I feel oftentimes I feel very out of place when I do stuff
like that because um you know you know i was on with you know legitimate celebrities uh some comics i
knew that i had worked with but i mean you know drew barrymore is the center square yeah and i'm right
next to her i've watched drew barrymore in movies my whole life she's the greatest yeah i'm i'm
you know justin long is on the other side of her and because i was right next to her square on the
first i did two episodes and i was right next to her and i was right next to her and
And, you know, and they dated.
They're having some banter.
Everyone was very nice to me, but it is, you know, pretty intimidating.
I made the joke on one of the episodes.
I don't know if it stayed in or not.
But, you know, as they called on, as the contestants called on each square, they would go, you know, I'm going to go with, you know, Drew Barry Moore because I love you and I've watched your movies for years.
And then they'd get to me and they go, I'm going to go with Dusty Slay.
Uh, because, uh, you know, I forget exactly what they said, but I just, I just remember being like,
I just love how you had that real caveat on why you picked me, you know, just, uh, everybody else is
like, because they're hilarious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I picked you because, uh, I like your hair, you know, or, you know.
I heard, I heard they pay good money.
Uh, they did pay good money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I was like, yeah, I'll do it.
Of course, I'll do it.
Yeah.
And then good gift bag?
Good gift bag. I got a vintage board game of Hollywood Squares.
And, yeah, they gave me some other stuff. And they were very nice. I had a great time there.
And I, you know, I love doing that. It's like who I don't know how the show did.
But I know that a lot of my relatives, family and friends were very excited to see me on there.
Yeah. And it's a classic show. So it feels good to be a part of that.
Yeah, it is. It's pretty iconic.
I mean, I can remember going back to my childhood and watching that show in the 70s and, you know, Gene Rayburn and Nipsey Russell and, you know, all these people that it's, it was actually like a career back then. You could be a guy that did Hollywood squares. You could do match game. Like there was a bunch of panel shows, even the gong show. Like, guys that just worked gaming.
shows and they made a boatload of money and they didn't have to go on the road they didn't have
to learn scripts they just were funny characters paul lynn paul lin didn't ever do anything else
i love that i mean i did not know that i did not know that you could just work the game
show uh uh circuit yeah but i love that i mean i i think i think there was another reboot of
hollywood squares in between the one you're talking about and the one that i was just on
Terry, I think, was it true Kerry? Oh, no, he was Price is right. Price is right. I don't
Hollywood Square. But it would have been when I was a kid. Yeah. But I remember that. And I think maybe it was, because I did a show called Nashville Squares, which aired on CMT. It was a huge failure, I think.
But it was, you know, a similar setup. But they were supposed to be all Southern characters, you know.
Do you think that's how you got the show?
I don't know.
I just think I have good management and I think they're able to work it.
But maybe.
Well played, Dusty Slick.
Yeah.
But, well, I don't know how I end up on a lot of things I get.
You know, like I did after midnight with Taylor Tomlinson.
And that was really fun because I used to watch the show at midnight.
Yeah.
And I just, you know, I think we've lost some steam with these shows because
and the same amount of people aren't watching TV that they used to.
Yeah.
Yeah, not by a long shot.
Did you used to watch He-Ha growing up?
Not growing up.
I have seen some episodes.
My parents watched it.
Yeah.
And I do the Opry.
I do comedy at the Opry.
Oh, right, right.
Now, tell me about that because I just went to the Ryman Auditori.
I flew to Nashville to go to the Ryman Auditorium to see Jason Isbell.
And then I saw Wheeler Walker Jr. the next night.
You know that guy?
Yeah. Yeah. So is that a different theater than Grandel Lopper? Because the Ryman used to be the original one.
Yeah, the Ryman used to be the Opry. And now they have a spot. It, you know, it's called kind of like the new Opry, but I think it's been there since the 70s. But it's out of town where, like, it used to be Opryland theme park was there. But now it's the Opry Mills Mall, the Opryland Hotel.
so it's a very nice hotel and it's all out there and you know it seats 4,400 people.
So when you do the, I've done the opera close to 40 times now and it's like when you do,
oh yeah, it's, I love it. I love doing the opera.
Wait, you go, is it like a showcase or you, you, you headlined it 40 times?
No, no, it's a showcase.
Okay.
So it, you know, it'll be, you know, it'd be like you doing, you know, the comedy store in L.A.
you know, you get on a showcase, but it'll be all musicians and maybe some squared answers.
Yeah.
So I get to work with all these really great musicians, and it's really fun because I do some
country music breakdowns.
So there's a country, a writer named Don Schlitz, and he wrote a bunch of tons and tons of
songs.
He wrote The Gambler by Kenny Rogers, and he saw me do my breakdown of a hardworking man by Brooks
and Dunn.
Oh, the guy with the hard hat who can hit nails.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he loves it.
He wants me to do a breakdown of the gambler.
And I've listened.
I know the gambler by heart.
I've listened to it many times.
And I do think there's something there, but I've just not found the way to do it yet.
But, you know, it's fun to be, like this is a legendary songwriter.
His list of songs is, you know, he has lots of number one hits.
And so I'm working with this guy.
And now, you know, we're like colleagues, essentially, you know.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
That's really fun to me.
Yeah.
And is that those Granul Opry shows, are those still televised?
They are broadcast on the radio.
Oh, okay.
So on Sirius XM, Willie's Roadhouse will always play it.
And it'll be on a little bit of a delay.
So usually I can do the Opry.
And then by the time I get in the car and I'm on the way home,
I can hear my set in the car on the way.
Oh, no kidding.
Yeah.
Do you get residuals?
from Sirius XM on those performances?
I don't, actually, I don't know if I do or not.
I know the Opry pays some to, I think once you become a member, the pay is better,
but, you know, they throw something your way.
I hope I don't sound like I'm obsessed about money, but I find it interesting.
I find that the finances of comedy to be something that people are very interested in
because they don't know, like, I'm a guy that just works clubs.
I don't work theaters, but I've been doing it for 35 years,
and people don't know, am I a billionaire or am I like, you know, lower middle class?
They have no idea.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, I mean, it's even I had no idea about a lot of the stuff with money and comedy.
I mean, you know, because you start off, and I remember, thankfully, I had some people advising me along the way.
But, you know, I remember wanting to turn down gigs in the beginning because I was like, I was like, logically, this just doesn't make sense.
I'm going to drive all this way for that little bit of money.
And they were like, well, it doesn't seem like good money.
It's not good money.
But what you're trying to do is this is a booker.
And you want to stay in this booker's good graces.
You want to stay the top of their list.
And you need stage time more than money.
Yeah.
And they were like, you know, you just stay in it and the money will come.
Well, that's what I say to Young Comics is like, if you were a doctor, you would spend, you know, 50 grand a year for four years getting an undergraduate.
Then you would spend 60 grand a year for three years in medical school, plus probably specialize.
Then you would do a residency for a year or two where you make no money.
Then after eight, nine years, you start to make money, but it's big money.
And it's the same thing with comedy.
If you just look at it like Malcolm Gladwell saying, get your 10,000 hours until you master something.
Just take all the work you can get, make sure you're using that time, you're recording your sets, you're writing stuff, and meeting people, learning from them.
And then all of a sudden, you'll just be making a living at it.
And then hopefully a good one.
Yeah, I mean, and that was what helped me so much when I moved to Nashville because I lived in Charleston, South Carolina.
and we didn't have a club.
So I wouldn't get to see a lot of professional comedians.
Right.
So when I moved at Nashville, I started going to Zanis,
and I started watching professional comics.
And then when I started, you know, getting to feed,
I started getting to do the funny bones and the improvs and featuring.
And then I would always watch the comics.
And it was like, just to see,
because I'd only been around my hipster buddies doing open mics.
Yeah.
And now to see professional comedians work.
even a lot of the smaller rooms that I did you know I mean I might have an attitude at some point
thinking I'm better than the road comic that I'm opening for and then they get up on stage
and they destroy the room and I go wow who did I think I was you know right and even if you
don't respect the material you have to respect the structure the energy the commitment the
professionalism, whatever it is that lets that person stand on stage for an hour and entertain
two or three hundred people and close strong to have a finale.
Like, that's a lot to learn.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there's a guy.
I don't want to say his name because I don't want him to think that I'm trashing him,
but he's a guy I work with on the road.
Nate Bogazzi?
No, there's a guy I work with on the road a couple of times.
And he did not have very good Joe.
He said, I'm a performer.
He said, I know what I am.
Yeah.
He said, I'm not a joke guy.
I'm a performer.
And we were working together this one weekend, and I was, you know, I was really getting out of being an opener.
I had started to headline more.
And at the very start of his set every night, it felt like I would watch and I'd go, oh, he's going to have a hard time following me because I just had a really great set.
And it was like the first five minutes.
It did feel like the audience was like almost judging him.
Yeah.
But by the end, they were all standing on their feet, clapping and singing along with what he was doing.
And they had completely forgotten about me.
They could care less about me.
Yeah, I've noticed that there's guys that go on the road and open for big headliners, you know,
and where you're flying private jets and all that stuff.
and it's pretty rare that one of them ends up breaking out
because you just don't remember them.
You know, the headliner is the last thing you're seeing.
It's always a notch up.
And so you might, as much as you might enjoy that opening act,
like I can't name more than a few that have ever gone to the next level
and they end up staying as an opener for many years.
Well, that's interesting that you say that because I talk about that a lot.
Because I, you know, I always resented in a way that no headliner ever took me on the road.
Yeah, yeah.
I would work with these guys at clubs.
We would have great weekends together.
We would hang out.
I would do really, really great.
And nobody would ever take me on the road.
And now that I look back, I go, oh, well, that's the best thing that ever happened to me.
That's right.
Because I had, maybe had a little chip on my shoulder.
Oh, you don't want to take me.
And then I just kept getting better and better and working harder and harder.
and now, you know, I built my own career.
And I can honestly say that I don't, you know,
there's plenty of people that I would give credit
to helping me along the way here and there.
But I don't feel like there's any comic that I go.
If not for this guy, I wouldn't be where I'm at.
Well, Nate Brigazzi's probably been your biggest supporter, right?
Yeah, but even that, I mean, Nate brought me on the podcast in 2022.
I mean, I was, I had already had a Netflix,
half hour. I had several, you know, I mean, he brought me on the podcast, but, and I don't, you know,
I'm not saying Nate has not been a supporter, but I was well on, I had already had a full on
headlining comedy career by the time he brought me onto the podcast. Right, right. And by the way,
I'm not knocking guys that go on the road and open through. There's some amazing guys, but the problem is
it's almost like my son just moved to New York and I was so glad because he grew up on the
west side of L.A. at the beach, surfing, skateboarding, nice out year round. All his friends are
here. And he moved to New York, which was a ballsy move because he's going to live in a shitty
small apartment with roaches. You live there. You know, it's a tough fucking life, but it's where
exciting things happen. And I feel like it's the same thing with opening for somebody is you're
comfortable. You know, you're only doing 15, 20 minutes. The crowds are killer. So you never
have to learn how to deal with bad crowds. And you're staying in great restaurants and flying
private. So it's like you don't have that kick in the ass to push you to the next level.
Yeah. And I agree. I'm not knocking those guys either. I just think that, yeah, I mean,
it's exactly all those things. You get, you get this Kush thing going on. And you're also not
making connections with clubs, especially if you're doing things.
you're not making any connections with the club so if ever and inevitably i feel like you're not
going to be someone's open or forever so when that ends what do you do now i got to say though
i think that that would be a good retirement plan for me in like 10 years when i don't want to
promote gigs and do an hour and travel like a bump like i would i would love doing 15 minutes at
arenas for some for some big act you know i think the money's pretty decent and it's i think it would
be a nice way to finish out my career yeah for sure i mean i've thought about that i mean there's
many ways that i've thought about you know finishing out the career it's like i've never been
i've never wanted to do cruises i don't even really like to be on a boat now but i've never wanted
to do cruises but i thought you know what if i was um if there was nothing else going on in my career or
if I just wanted to take a different path, just sitting out on a boat every day.
I know guys, they take their wives with them and they just, you know, they go to different
cities.
They just hang out.
Yeah.
I was like, yeah, I could do that.
Why not?
Yeah, I try it.
Definitely try it.
I mean, that's not the direction I want to go because I don't really like boats.
I almost could see myself, I'm about to go to Vegas.
And I don't know how well that show's selling.
So I don't think I'm on a path to this.
But I would almost see like a Vegas residency, I think, would be really fun.
Yes.
I mean, Carrotop's been very happy for a lot of years, you know?
And, you know, I don't know.
He's playing at the MGM.
It's a beautiful theater.
He works, he works six nights a week and only takes off like five or six weeks a year.
So it's a grind, but he seems to like it.
And he's staying creative.
He's, you know, he's always got new stuff.
Yeah, that's what people tell me they went to see him.
And it's like he had, they were like, I went to see him and they were like, he had jokes on stuff that happened in the news that day.
That's right.
That was very funny.
Yep.
Yeah, I mean, I've heard nothing but good things about his show.
I've never seen it.
I always think I'm going to show up in Vegas and just go see shows.
And then they're all sold out.
And I go, oh, I needed to plan ahead.
Yeah, I just did Brad Garrett's club.
And Brad was there.
So what he does is like, if he's in town, he'll emce his own club and then you go up at the end.
And then you go gambling with him and he keeps throwing down hundreds for you to get chips.
And he takes you out to the best restaurants.
And it's amazing.
And so my wife came out because it was Valentine's Day.
And I couldn't get a reservation for like 10 days leading up to it.
Vegas was booked.
And so I got there and I told Brad,
And the next night, the manager is like, yeah, you got a reservation at this, the best Italian
place at the MGM.
We go there.
They had a private room that was just for me and my wife with their own server, five-course meal,
and then the server comes out and goes, your checks all taken care of.
And Brad took care of everything.
Yeah.
Wow.
And then he got me tickets to Cirque de Soleil the next night.
That's really not.
I mean, I've heard he's really nice.
I've also heard that when he host,
it is a hard night of comedy to follow him.
That's what I've heard.
He's a very hard follow.
He is a very hard follow.
He's talking about people that do crowd work well.
I mean, he's as good as anybody.
He just goes up and rip.
And he does it old school.
It's like rickles.
He says like stuff that I think if he were younger
and not as likable,
he would get canceled for the stuff that he says on stage.
Yeah.
But he carries it.
He's almost like he feels like an old Vegas kind of performer when he's up there.
Yeah.
And he also like, you know, a friend of his passed away, this couple both passed away, and they had kids.
And he's like fostered them.
And they all work at the club now.
And he takes great care of them.
And he's had this charity that he's had for 30 years that he's totally involved with.
And, you know, I've heard about comics getting sick.
sick and he takes care of their medical bill he's just like an amazing guy wow yeah i've i've only
heard nice things about him that's for sure i'd not heard to that detail but i just know comics
that work there and they go man it is uh i had a guy he was like the first night he was like
i felt like i was bombing he goes but i you know i adjusted and i figured it out for the rest of the
weekend but he's like it was hard to follow brad garrett yeah i found that if i just didn't do crowd
work. It took them, it was like what you were saying before. It took them five minutes to
reacclimate my energy. And then it was, you know, they had great energy. So you just have to find
your way to tap into that well of energy in your own way. You know, I think that that's something
when you're new at comedy, you don't understand. You think that you have to ride the wave and you have to
do what that guy did and you have to match his energy. But that's a recipe for failure. You know,
And I came up doing the clubs in New York where, you know, you're following Dave Attell or Louis C.K. or Chappelle.
And like, you've got to learn how to follow tough people.
And the more you do it, the more you realize the only way it's going to work is if I am myself 100%.
Well, you know, I only lived in New York.
I moved to New York for a month.
I just rented a one.
Oh, that's it?
I rented an apartment for a month.
I wanted to, because I was considering moving there.
Yeah.
And I wanted to know if I liked it.
And I loved it.
I thought it was really great.
But I also talked to someone who talked to me about working the road, like going that path.
And I go, you know what?
I like that better because I didn't want to work another job.
I thought I could go, I could move to Nashville, I could get a cheaper apartment,
and I could become full-time faster.
So that's why I did what I did.
But the thing that I wish that I did have, and there are some good comments.
comics here in Nashville. But I do wish that I had more lineups where I'm like really nervous
about the people I'm following. Right. Right. To really force me to step up my game.
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It's like it's like running with weights on. You know, it just forces you to
really dig deep. Because we have a we have a lot of good comics here in Nashville. But, you know,
chances are they're not all on the lineup every night you know like if well who do you got out there
theo vaughan is there right yeah von but he's rarely at any of the you know showcases oh okay
and then we have john chris who's very funny we have nate bergatsy we have uh erin weber
we have Kathleen madigan but Kathleen's rarely at any of the showcases uh Steve burn uh I see
less of Steve Byrne these days at the showcases.
We have a guy, Johnny W., I mean,
these are a lot of these guys are professional comics,
but maybe not as well known.
Aaron Weber, Brian Bates,
all people that do the podcast with me.
But would you say it skews like cleaner there
than it would in other places?
Because a lot of those people you mentioned
are pretty clean.
We probably have the cleanest comedy scene
in the whole country.
Really?
Maybe Salt Lake City.
Salt Lake City because a dry bar has a pretty clean.
But I would say we probably have the cleanest come.
Now, we got our share of filthy comics for sure.
But I would say we have, at a high level,
I would bet we have the most clean comics in the country.
Interesting.
Wow.
That's so cool because, like, Nashville is kind of a dirty town.
Like, when I think of Nashville, I think about people party
and bachelor's at parties thrown up on the street.
outlaw country music you know it's a gritty city so where do you think that comes from i don't know
i mean you know um Nate for sure has an influence uh because Nate runs now runs a weekly
showcase he doesn't run it he you know it's his name um the Nate land showcase where it's you have
to be clean but you know for 10 years roughly 10 years I've had a show at Zanis a monthly show
where I ask comics to be relatively clean.
I don't need them to be quite as clean as the Nateland showcases,
but I want them to still be relatively clean.
Right.
Because they're there to see me, but it's still a showcase.
So, you know, I don't want to shock people.
I don't want people to come to the show and be shocked by what the other comics say.
Right.
And I think, you know, that's played a role because if you want to do my show,
which I sell out, it sells out almost every time.
So if you want to do my show, you're going to have to have a clean, you know, five or ten minutes.
Right.
So I, and then the same.
If you want to do Nate show, you got to have a clean thing.
And it's like, you know, Brian Bates runs a showcase.
So we have a lot of these showcases where you have to be clean.
And so I just think I have a lot of friends that are very dirty comics, but they can all do clean.
Because if they want to go on the road with us, they got to be clean.
Yeah.
I'm thinking in my head how long of a set I could do if it was clean.
Like I used to do college shows and corporate shows, and I could pull off an hour clean,
but it was edgy clean, you know.
And I think the spirit of what I was doing, it felt like I was holding back, which I don't
think you want to feel like on a clean show.
You want to feel like, you know, when I watch you or Nate, it seems very organic that
this is the way you are.
You're not pretending to be this way.
Yeah, I mean, I like, I don't mind if people feel like they're holding back as long as they don't say it.
Right.
The worst is when you're doing a club and they've asked someone to be clean and then they're bombing.
And then they go, oh, yeah, I had to be clean up here.
They want me to be, you know, like, I would be crushing if I could be dirty.
Right.
But I tell people sometimes, especially at clubs, I go, listen, if you go out there and you're real dirty,
and you bomb, fine.
It doesn't matter to me.
But if you crush, then you're going to make it hard for me to follow.
Oh, I see.
And I don't want to work that hard.
Right, right, right, right.
If you bomb, great.
Why do you think, because you're, I know you, you mentioned you haven't drank in a while.
How long has it been?
13 years.
Wow, congrats.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, and I haven't drank in 30.
30 years?
Amazing.
Yeah.
But I'm always curious about like you do talk about it a little bit and you say that you like drinking.
And then people cheer.
And I'm just, this is just kind of an offhanded observation I had while watching that.
What do you think there is not just in comedy, but in life in general, that people celebrate fucking up your mind?
They celebrate that you can't be comfortable, sober, you know?
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I think it's dependent on how you grew up, it's almost like pounded into your head your whole life.
It's like I grew up listening to country music.
Country music talks about drinking and partying and how fun that is all the time.
You watch all these movies and then you see people around you drink.
Like my parents were divorced.
My dad was never much of a drinker, but my mom would drink.
She would have boyfriends and they would drink.
And I never saw bad things happen.
I only saw people having fun.
Right, right, right.
So I just grew up watching this.
And then I grew up in Alabama.
So, you know, you start drinking, some people earlier, but I started drinking around 16.
And I really just got into it.
It was fun to just party.
And it's so socially acceptable to just have drinks.
and then you start getting jobs that suck and you're like all day you're like i hate this job
and so you get off and you go to the bar all your friends are there and you party and i think
you just get trapped in this cycle of the only way i can have fun is if i drink yes and that's what
that's what i'm getting at is like why is it that that's not a sad thing that are innate and
And look, I drank hard for a lot of years.
And I had a lot, like you, I had a blast.
And I see a lot of people productively drinking and having fun.
But there's something very sad that the human condition in its static form is uninteresting and we're emotionally shut down.
That we don't share as much.
We don't experience emotions as much.
We don't feel joy.
That's just.
And then, you know, drugs on top of that.
Yeah, I mean, I think it, yeah, I mean, I think it's bad.
I'm not for it, but I'm always trying to be careful to not come off as if I'm judging people.
Because I'm not, and I don't think you are either.
We're not judging people for drinking, but it's like you feel bad.
You like, because I had to accept that I'm just, I am less fun when I'm drinking.
Yes.
Wait, when you are or when you're not?
when I'm not.
Yes, right.
But I'm also less of a mess.
Yes.
And so it's like, I think there's some balance there.
I think there are a lot of family members that I have that probably liked me better as a
drinker because I was light and more fun to be around, right?
But I'm like, I like myself better as a not drinker, a non-drinker.
But when I'm working clubs, I know that the clubs make their money off food and drinks.
Yeah.
So whenever I talk about how I used to drink, I always talk about it in a positive way.
And I do have mostly positive memories of drinking.
But I, you know, I always talk about it in a positive way because I don't want people that have come to just let loose and enjoy themselves to now feel bad that they're drinking.
And I don't want the club to lose money because I'm up here talking about how great it is to be sober.
Right, right. Yeah, yeah.
It's funny you say people tried to talk you out of it because my father was a,
a pretty bad alcoholic.
And when I got sober, he tried to get me to drink.
He literally, I was telling him that I was depressed and stressed out.
And he goes, you need a couple drinks, you know?
I was like, oh, my God.
I know.
I know.
Well, people would tell me that.
They would go, you're just setting yourself up for failure.
They go, don't quit drinking.
Just control your drinking.
I go, I can't control it.
That's why I'm quitting.
Yeah.
Because I don't know how to have a couple of beers.
Yeah.
When I have a couple of beers, I get fired up.
And I'm like, let's do this all night.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
You know?
I would quit for a month.
And then I would go, all right.
All right.
I've given myself a break.
And then, you know, two weeks I'm back to drinking just like I was before.
Yep.
Yep.
I know.
It's the same way.
It's a light switch.
It's either on or off.
Which was actually really good for me because I wasn't.
wasn't the most faithful boyfriend to my early girlfriends.
And I was drinking.
And then I got sober and then I met my wife and I knew that like drinking,
I could turn the switch off and be like, this is it.
This is the one person, you know.
Yeah.
Well, my wife would not enjoy me as a drinker.
And, you know, probably some because people really liked when I drank.
They really liked up until a certain number of drinks.
Right. And then I could lose a lot of my friends. I was a real maniac. And I loved it. I think there's a
part of me that really liked losing control. And maybe that's it. An answer to your earlier question,
I think there are some people that have so much control issues. I think I probably have some
control issues. And drinking helps me lose control. And I think I like that. Yes. Yes. I know. I wish I could
lose control once in a while i'm so stayed i'm so you know i luckily i have good friends and
you know they relaxed me my wife relaxes me but the euphoria of a wild night out i i miss that oh yeah
yeah yeah going to the you know i don't i don't know where exactly you grew up i guess california but
no new york okay we would go to the waffle house and uh after a late night of drinking and just
you know, you just eat a ton of food.
Yeah, right, right.
I'm sure New York was filled with diners.
Diner's, yeah.
And you do a lot of stuff that accompanies drinking that you wouldn't do.
You eat shitty food late at night.
You don't get enough sleep.
You have toxins in your body in the morning.
You smoke more.
Like, just there's a whole basket that comes along with it.
I really think cigarettes is why I quit drinking.
I think if I, I've done, I've thought about
that a lot. Because I was, I felt so bad is why I quit drinking. My body just felt terrible.
Yeah. And I think it was because I smoked so much while I was drinking. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think
smoking helped me quit drinking. So. All right. Well, listen, I don't want to keep you. What a pleasure.
Dusty Slay. Thanks for coming on the show, my friend. Thank you for having me. This was really fun.
I, I enjoyed talking to you. I feel like the first time we ever really talked.
was at the Jeremiah Watkins show.
And I, so I'm happy to get to spend some time with you.
Yeah, I know.
That's the nice thing about podcast.
You can meet somebody and talk for a full hour with no interruptions,
get to know each other a little bit.
It's great.
Yeah.
How weird would it be for me and you're just to talk and not record it, you know?
What a waste.
People do that?
I know.
I know.
I know.
So the special is called Wet Heat.
It's premiering on Netflix today,
whether the day this air is it will be premiering.
I watched it.
I liked it a lot.
I just laughed a lot.
It drew me in.
I couldn't stop while.
I don't always watch people's whole hour.
And I watch yours right to the end and highly recommend it.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate that.
And then you got tour dates coming up starting August 8th.
He will be in Huntsville, Alabama, Atlanta, Georgia, Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee.
Preston's Bird, Kentucky, Princeton, West Virginia, Biloxi, Missouri, Auburn, Alabama, Binghamton, New York, Buffalo, Redding, PA, a whole bunch of dates.
All the hot spots.
Yeah, what's your website, so people can get tickets?
Dustyslay.com.
Dusty Slay.com. Check it out. Dusty. Thank you again, and hopefully I'll see you back in L.A. soon.
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
All right. Take care, buddy.
All right.
Thank you.