Fitzdog Radio - Sam Morril - Episode 1077
Episode Date: November 27, 2024Few people I enjoy talking to as much as the great Sam Morril. We talk sports, drinking and Ellen DeGeneres. Happy Thanksgiving!Follow Sam Morril on Instagram @SamMorrilMy Bookie: https://mybookie.we...bsite/FITZWatch my special "You Know Me" on YouTube! http://bit.ly/FitzYouKnowMeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Hey, welcome to FitzDog Radio. It's a special Thanksgiving episode. Lots to give thanks for in this world.
I know some people are frustrated with the political situation, but let's remember something.
This is the best goddamn country in the world!
And will be for a very long time. Remember that. Um, great guest today, Sam Morel. Holy shit, I just talked to him. He's, he's a guy I wish I lived in New York, because I think he and I
would be very close friends. And we had a great chat. And then after we took after we did the podcast for an hour
We talked for like another hour, which I realized we should have probably recorded that as well
Although there was some shit talk and we probably wouldn't want out there a little bit little bit
Thanksgiving is tomorrow. I don't know when this comes out me. Yeah, I think it's tomorrow when this podcast is revealed to the public and I am very excited. My mom is flying out, should be here later tonight and
she's come out every year for 20 years. She comes out for Thanksgiving. Big tradition, a lot of
traditions here in Venice. If you've listened over the years, you know we always play soccer in the morning. There's about 40 of us to play soccer. We break up
into two gigantic Braveheart teams and then we all have dinner at our homes and then we
meet up at the beach at around seven o'clock at night and go screaming into the freezing
cold water, ride a couple waves. And then we usually go to the Malloy and Dunskys house where there's a hot tub
and everybody brings dessert and they have this giant pot filled with spiked
cider and people stay till like two in the morning but anyway the Dunskys and
Malloy's are gone this year and we're gonna host it at our house so I don't think the turnout is
gonna be that big we're trying to get enough people to play soccer it's a
little I'm a little sad I'm not gonna lie to you I feel like this tradition
after we've been doing this for 15 years mom's been coming out for 20 soccer and
beach have been 15 and I don't know how much longer it's gonna last people
fucking move Venice is expensive people move out they sell their houses for a lot of money and then
they go live somewhere cheap like Virginia so we got people we'll be all right but I'm a little
little down now we that Thanksgiving's a big holiday for me. We always celebrated we would go down to the Bronx to the house that my mom grew up in
where her father lived and all my cousins from Long Island and
Westchester and everywhere would come together. There was a bunch
of us there was like 13 cousins I have more cousins than that.
But in the New York
area, this 13 plus aunts and uncles, six aunts and uncles,
and then my grandparents. And we were wild, the kids were fucking
Irish kids are nuts. And you get 13 of them in a small house in
the Bronx. And we would go to the there was there was a deli up
the street that had a toy store. And we robbed blind we fucking robbed them we used to steal liquor from our
parents when we were like 12 we'd be in the basement and my grandfather's little
his little he had like a woodchop and we'd get fucked up we drink ginger
at rye and ginger rye whiskey and ginger ale. Cause that's what they were drinking upstairs.
That's the smell I remember walking in.
My grandfather's house looked like all in the family,
like that house exactly with the stoop out front.
And you'd walk in and you just smelled whiskey,
ginger ale and boiled turnips.
And we'd have dinner.
My uncle Paul would bring this
turkey in this styrofoam cooler that was held together with
electric tape, same cooler all those years, he would put it in
the trunk of his Ford LTD in Long Island, he'd cook it in the
morning, bring it to the Bronx, put it in the oven at like 200
degrees for like six hours while everybody just drank and Bring it to the Bronx put it in the oven at like 200 degrees
for like six hours while everybody just drank and talked and a lot of laughter until
The turkey was bone dry and then they'd serve it with it was just all white vegetables. It was just mashed potatoes
turnips Cauliflower like nothing had any color to it at all. Even the broccoli was cooked
to the point of being light. And then my grandfather would tell he was from Ireland. All my grandparents
are from Ireland, but my grandfather would do these old Irish limericks, these beautiful like, you know,
poetic, lyrical limericks. And he would and then as he got older and he would
start to forget them then my my aunts and my mom would help him through it
because they all knew them and they tell them and then they'd sing my aunt
Dolores and my aunt Peggy would sing Irish songs and it was amazing it was
great that was my old Thanksgiving this is the new one So we'll see I should keep this short because people want to hear
Sam
Anyway shout out to Tempe, Arizona. Thanks for coming out. We had nice full shows at the improv
Hung out with my buddy Rob Dukes and his lovely girlfriend Mel. I drove around in his 58
Porsche and his lovely girlfriend Mel. I drove around in his 58 Porsche. He let me drive it. We went to a cigar bar and had a lot of fun. Todd Barry's brother came to my show, was a very nice guy,
hung out with him. There was a lot of comedy fans that were like these two guys I talked to. I was
on stage and I was like, how long you guys been friends? And they said, like six months.
I said, that's weird. How did you meet? And they said, we each
came to David tells comedy show alone. And they sat us together.
And ever since then, we just go to comedy shows together. How
cool is that? I fucking love comedy nerds. They're the best.
But there was a lot of it was a little maga feeling there was a guy there was a guy with a maga hat who
was like six foot three with his arms crossed who literally did
not smile once during my entire fucking show it made me so
angry. But whatever it was fun I did some Ellen jokes and
all was good so anyway let's get to it by the way I did some Ellen jokes and all was good. So anyway let's get to it.
By the way I'm coming to South Africa. I'll be in Cape Town, South Africa the
first week of January and I'm looking to do a stand-up gig. If anybody lives in
South Africa that's a comedian let me know. I want to book a gig in South
Africa. Also looking for a good video editor if you can put
together little one-minute videos for my special I'm looking for somebody who can
do a highly skilled not a shit job I need a good job I got some other
editing work too so reach out FitzDogradio at gmail.com also the
special if you haven't seen it you know know me is on YouTube. It's got a half a million views now.
And tell your friends click on it again. Give it another watch. I appreciate that. Next week's
show we're gonna have Howie Mandel will be on. And then we got Mark McGrath coming up, Adam Ray,
Jeff Garland is gonna be a great month of shows leading into the
holidays. Also San Francisco punchline this weekend, not this weekend,
next weekend, December 5th and 6th, 5th through 7th, Cleveland, Hilarities,
December 13 and 14, and then in January, Janesville, Wisconsin, Nyack, New York,
Raleigh, North Carolina, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, February in Vegas, and Atlanta,
and a lot of gigs coming up.
Tampa, La Jolla, Pittsburgh, Toronto.
Go to FitzDog.com, get some tickets, come out, see some live comedy, and I think we're
ready to go.
All right, that's it.
Here is my guest.
You know him from all of his specials. He's got some
of the best stand up specials that have been put out in the last 10 years. He's got a podcast
called We Might Be Drunk with Mark Norman. And he's got a huge tour. I'm going to give out the Here is the great Sam Morell.
Welcome. Sam Morell's drinking from his Nick's Cop. Nothing but hope at this point in the season, I guess. Yeah, they'll figure it out.
Where are they at now?
They're they're just hovering over 500, depending on when this comes out, I guess.
But yeah, yeah, they look it's just a lot of new players.
They'll figure it out.
Dude, how big of a thrill was it the first time?
Because I've seen the clips of you being at MSG
and they put you up on the scoreboard.
It's insane. I was like that's my goal in showbiz. I'm like just let me just get there.
I'm kind of playing with house money now but yeah I was Mateo Lane, the comedian is my neighbor so
we went to the other night and it's his first game. He's a Chicago guy and I'm like,, right, We're courtside and it really is like watching with a woman where he'd just be like, man, Josh Hart is hot.
Yeah, if you have good seats, man,
you really appreciate the physiques on these guys.
I'm straight, but I remember seeing LeBron James up close
and I was like, God damn, look at those calves.
Jesus Christ.
He's ridiculous, yeah.
And he's like 40, it's insane. This is when he should be declining.
What's going on with his son? Has he played on the same court as LeBron at any point for the Lakers?
Yeah, I was like, they did it for the story, but it's like he clearly shouldn't be there.
Yeah. It's like, remember when you were starting out in comedy and there was like some showbiz
guy's son on the open mic sheet and you're like,
this dude's gonna fly by me, god damn it.
But then in a few years they're not there.
They never are.
I'm trying to think of, other than,
I guess the Waynes brothers have had kids
that have done okay, right?
Well look, all of showbiz is nepotism, right?
Yeah, but stand up is a different sport
because you can't fake your way through stand up.
You're either making it or not.
I think Michael Douglas' brother was a stand up
and he killed himself.
No, his son.
It's hard.
His son.
Oh shit.
He was awful.
He was awful.
He was good at suicide.
That was like the only thing he was really good at.
He fucking, one and done.
He did it.
One and done.
Perfect record.
Damn.
The worst is the guy that tries to kill himself and fails
and now he's in some kind of life support
that the family has to take care of him
because he didn't crack his head all the way.
By the way, we're like three minutes into the podcast, we're on suicide.
We're a good combo.
Oh, I'm great at the algorithm.
I make about $9 a month on YouTube.
Well, to answer your question, yeah, Bronnie's in the G League right now and he's not even
doing well in the G League.
I don't think an NBA player right now, we'll see. Yeah. Who knows but it's looking kind of rough. I'm trying to
think have there other been what other sports has been been a father and son
playing? Griffey Jr. and senior. I was gonna say yeah. The big one but they were both I mean
junior was better and senior was really good. But I mean you don't want
to be LeBron son and play mean, you don't want to be
LeBron son and play basketball, do anything.
Do you want to be, do you really want to be
Frank Sinatra Jr?
Yeah.
It's not a great life.
It's not, look at Liza Minnelli,
that didn't turn out too well.
She had a run though.
Yeah, but she's been on drugs her whole fucking life.
I know.
Jesus Christ.
She was great.
I fucking love Arthur, dude.
That's such a great movie. Yeah, and she she comes in my wife works at a podiatrist office and she's a patient
and she comes in and her feet are fucked because she's yeah I don't think you're
supposed to be saying this no I don't so what uh what do you think about Ellen
leaving the country over the Trump election?
I kind of respect it. I mean, finally someone is, uh, I was going to say a man of their word, I guess.
But, uh, a person of their word, because for how many years are celebrities like
I'm out, I don't know.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
Look, if you're going to leave, where'd you go?
London?
That's pretty good, right?
Yeah, she went, not even London. No, she's out in like the middle of the country. She's down south
and like some, she's gonna destroy some cute little town where people used to drink tea and take walks
a lot in those clunky shoes, you know. Oh, imagine her poor British butler that she's just gonna rip
the shreds. It's gonna be the Ellen Staff all over again. She's just gonna cook them. I know, imagine her poor British butler that she's just gonna rip the shreds. It's gonna be the Ellen staff all over again.
She's just gonna cook them.
I know, but I think they're more used to it in England.
I think they keep the stiff upper lip.
You know, they got the palace guards, you know,
where people fuck with them.
All the tourists fuck with them
and they keep a straight face.
Oh, I was one of them.
I did it recently.
No, you didn't!
I did.
It's on my Instagram.
I did it.
I was like, let me see if I can tell my most offensive joke.
And I was a little intimidated because no one was doing it.
And I was like, shit.
But I went up to him and I did my miscarriage baby joke.
And I went up to him and he stomped on the punch line.
And I was like, he really, that was like all he can do.
You can't be like, fuck you, but you can stomp
and like do your little march.
So that was his way of being like fuck off.
Oh, that's amazing.
So I, yeah, I was, I'm gonna be honest though,
I was pretty nervous to do it.
Well, that's the thing, those pranks always seem
like a great idea until you actually have to be
the douchebag in front of a bunch of people.
And then you're glad you did it later because it looks good but like
Do you ever feel like that when you do those morning?
TV shows when you're fucking with the hosts
Sometimes there's been a couple times where
It just doesn't work and now you're just the asshole who ruined a segment. It wasn't even funny
Yeah, but because they have to kind of react if they just
into segment it wasn't even funny. Yeah. But because they have to kind of react if they just even if they roll with it it's funny but if they are they're
disgusted by it it's funny but if they kind of give me nothing it's just kind
of like yeah it doesn't really work so yeah I've had a few that really the one
that people I seem to like the most I think was one was the Columbus human
trafficking thing where I just kept pretending Columbus has a human trafficking problem and I could see it bothered him so I
just kept going back to him and I was like man human trafficking he was like
what are you talking about? And then he was like well how long have you been funny
or something like that? I was like well there's nothing funny about human
trafficking I just kept doing it to the point where they ended the interview
early and then and then it cut to him going like I don't get what he's doing
like I don't understand and and the female it's always the woman always
gets it and the dude never does yeah the dude is oh the dude always thinks he's
like the funny guy that happened in Utah where like some guy came in the green
room it's rare that now they kind of know I do it so some of them are cool
and they're like well we'll play along yeah we won't right what some guy in
Utah came in the green room and was like,
I made Gary Veeder who towards me come with me
because it gets awkward and I need a friend
at this point there.
Because I describe it as like a bank robbery.
I call an Uber as I'm going on to the set
because I need a car waiting for me.
You don't want a loiter.
You got the lavalier mic on still
and you're like, fucking, I'm going.
I'm out, yeah.
And this guy was like, so, you gonna fuck with me
on the segment?
And he's like a clean cut Mormon guy,
and I'm like, yeah, I am.
And he goes, all right, we'll see.
Like, he's kinda like fucking with me in the green room.
I mean, he can act tough all he wants,
but this is his job, I'm just passing through.
So I can like, so of course I keep taking it further and Dude, I was as I'm leaving all the people were like, can we take a picture with you? We hate that guy.
Of course.
Now the women if you next time you come through LA, you should do Fox News has their I think it actually might be an afternoon show.
I can't remember if it's morning or afternoon.
But three of the hottest women you've ever seen in your life and one of them,
the hottest one has like the greatest sense of humor.
I came in and I go, and I was looking off stage
and they go, what are you looking for?
I go, oh my, this is on the air.
I go, my agent's supposed to be coming.
He's Lebanese.
And I texted him like an hour ago.
No, I paged him like an hour ago.
But I haven't heard anything from him.
I don't know what's going on.
And like the two of them were like,
well, maybe he's just running late.
And then the one really hot one was dying.
How do you not get that?
She's like, you don't get it.
That's such a smooth joke, yeah.
Yeah, and it happened.
I did it like four days after the event.
Yeah, I mean, that's what it's for,
is to just, that's the only reason comedians like us
should be going on those shows,
is to just burn a hole and make it weird. Yeah. And most of the time I'm just being myself,, just gonna cut everything but then it's also hard to get booked when you're like I'll only go on if it's live they're like what the fuck's he gonna do to us
yeah yeah but but I did New York one which is like my hometown oh yeah and
and it was like a 10-minute interview and I was kind of playing it you know
somewhat straight and my friend went there after and she goes yeah they were
really bummed you didn't fuck with them oh shit. I don't know what to do in a taped interview. I just assume they're gonna cut it.
Yeah, I went on one in Cleveland.
There's this guy in Cleveland who's,
he's very good looking and he's like, you know, funny,
but he spit on me like while he was talking,
like a big spit.
And I go, dude, you just, like anybody else let it go,
I was like dude, you just spit on me.
And then he started laughing and then I started laughing
and I gotta send you the tape.
We laughed for like 90 seconds.
Like we just laughed harder and harder and harder
and that was like the whole segment.
I've had a couple of those, yeah.
I actually, I actually went to the Knicks game the other night.
I actually this is going to sound like a flex, but we were like so close to the
freaking Bulls bench that I'm screaming.
I'm a lunatic.
Yeah.
So when it comes when it gets close to Nick, we're down like 18.
They came all the way back and up losing.
But during that run, I'm going nuts.
And, you know, they're shooting free throws.
I'm yelling like, fuck you.
You suck. And I'm one of the guys like the 12th man on the Bulls bench this this
Italian kid is like he goes you're spitting on me you're spitting on me
really and I was like oh shit sorry I got what do you say yeah you were that
close that you could spin on I was screaming and then there's a guy behind
me goes to the play goes goes, hey, shut up,
you don't even play, and the guy goes, I play.
It was just sad, I just felt like an asshole.
I play, I love that.
He's an NBA player, shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, he's like Potsy on Happy Days,
that's before your time.
I don't get the reference, but it sounds like it makes sense.
He was the player that like, he was always on the bench and then
one day they they called him into the game and so he ripped off his sweats and
he had his underwear on because he was so used to not playing that he never
even bothered putting his shorts on so what about Matt gates what's your take
on that?
I mean, it must be not great if he's dropping out, right?
Because they can't, I don't understand it fully,
but isn't it that they can't,
if he drops out, they can't show the report, right?
I think that's what it was.
I think it's exactly like Trump trying to get elected
so that they can't charge him.
And Gaetz took, got gotta I said he pulled I said
he pulled out which he's not used to doing unless there's a 17 year old girl
with a Venmo account in the room oh yeah that's it's weird that they like
it's funny though like I guess you banged prostitutes back in the day there was no
real paper trail but now you Venmo, it's right. Like he probably wrote like whore right in the description.
You gotta know why.
Well that happened.
17.
I don't know if you remember Jerry,
was it Jerry Springer?
Who, he was in Cincinnati and he hired a prostitute
and he wrote her a check and he got busted for it.
That's another way.
Yeah.
Damn, old school.
Yeah.
But it is amazing.
This guy is being considered for, like,
really maybe the most powerful job
besides the president in America.
And he's, you know, repeatedly hired underage girls
to do drugs with him and have sex.
Well, it's not just him. It's like everyone.
I feel like everyone appointed is associated
with some sort of like sexual deviance.
Even, what's her name, the WWE.
Linda McMahon?
Who's her husband?
Yeah, well, not only her husband,
but did you hear about like that there was a referee
who was accused of
serially being a pedophile and they they always knew and then finally they fired
him and then she hired him back and said just stay away from the boys and then he
continued to do it like she's a nominee what yeah and also I mean I read about
some of the stuff she did it's like she had these programs
Or it's like you you get wrestlers to go into the schools and it's called like get real or something
I teach kids about respect and I'm like how fucking bad are the schools that they're like send an undertaker
He'll handle the kids
It's it's ridiculous. So
Yeah, I mean, just being,
look, she's got like a Hillary Clinton thing
where she's just married to a terrible person forever.
Right.
But she, except Hillary like accomplished shit on her own.
I feel like, what is Linda, I know she's like,
look, Trump loves loyalty.
She's been loyal to him forever.
That's kind of the name of the game is if you're loyal.
I mean, the other guy, like,
did you see the clip of Pete Hegseth on so see the guy with the white
nationalist tattoos? I don't know about that. Does he? I know he was like an
Iraq vet. Okay. He's uh I met him once and he was like years ago and he was like I
really like your stuff and I was like flag, you shouldn't be involved in anything.
But yeah, he had this.
God, what was he nominated for again?
It was for something.
Was it exactly it was defense?
Yeah. There's this viral clip.
You've got to look this up on Fox News where this probably isn't his fault.
But the fact that he's throwing an axe, like axe throwing outside Fox News, and it's like, there's no like, you're just in the street.
He's throwing an axe, and he misses, and it goes over the thing, and it comes like an
inch from killing a guy.
No!
There's a guy playing drums, it goes into his drum, and I'm like, this is the guy you've
nominated for Secretary of Defense.
There is video footage of him almost murdering a civilian by just being an idiot. Yeah, no, I think he's tatted up.
He's got some far-right tattoos, I think. I don't know. I get all my
facts. I don't know. Yeah, well, yeah, I saw the I mean, it's funny all the people nominated. It's like, of
all the people nominated, you're like, well, rfk, at least he's
fit, you know? Yeah. Yeah, he's got brain worms. He's got brain
worms. And it's like not a natural whatever he's doing a
natural. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's like 70 something and he
is like he looks like he's in the WWE. He's shredded. I know
he's shredded. And I think he works out at my gym.
I belong to Gold's gym in Venice and I think,
I know Schwarzenegger still works out there
but I think RFK's in there a lot also.
I can see that he's fucking, he's too yoked.
Cheryl Hines better look out before he Chris Benoit's her.
I mean, this is some dangerous Royds he's taking.
Oh yeah, he's definitely on Roy.
Everybody is, every, like, Roy's definitely on Royce. Everybody is.
Royce has become the new vitamin supplement.
People are just openly taking them.
Yeah, I'm sure those wrestlers were on a ton of other stuff,
but they didn't have a great life expectancy.
No.
There was a stretch where it was like Rick Rude,
you know, Chris Benoit, all these dudes, Mr. Perfect, they're all just dropping. And yeah, right.
I would I would probably I'm sure they were doing a ton of other shit,
painkillers, all that other stuff.
But did you see the series, the docu-series about the W.V.I.V.I.N.C. McMahon?
I loved it. But my buddy, Mike Mike Lawrence is a diehard wrestling fan.
So I'm like, wow, that was crazy.
And Mike is like, they didn't go deep enough.
Yeah, of course, of course.
But yeah, Vince, you know, murder adjacent,
done all this crazy shit,
grew that creepy ass mustache.
He looks like a fucking, he looks like Rob,
what's his name, Goulet, the Vegas singer at this point?
Robert Goulet, yeah, with the fake tan and the, yeah,
and probably a toupee. But it was so weird. I had no idea that like he dragged his, he beat up his
son. He, you know, called his wife, called his daughter a whore. His son is, like, he's not trailer
trash. This is a billionaire son jumping off. Like, this is what he has to do to get a hug.
I know.
And then he doesn't get the hug.
Then Vince gives it to his daughter instead.
It was like kind of like trashy or succession.
Oh, totally.
It was totally succession.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And she actually seems sharp.
If Trump had nominated the daughter
I would be like, all right, maybe, but not the wife. Yeah, she does seem sharp and
she's got his ruthlessness, which you kind of need. He just knew how to...
I mean, they took everyone. WCW took everyone from him and he just and he was
like I'll just create this and he wouldn't pay them more she's like I'll
just create a cool storyline and that was really the him and all part of it
yeah it was like if a play is three acts like act three was just like anybody
else would have gone like alright I'm worth a billion let me get some golf
clubs and he's into
hookers whatever enjoy his life and he just dug in I mean that's the thing
about certain people and you know we know them as comics and you're you know
you're a very successful comic and you definitely grind like you really earn it
and then you got guy then you get the arena guys like Burt, where you go like, this guy would be the CEO
of a major company if he wasn't a comedian.
You know?
And he's got that dig in, like he digs in.
And in the same way that you do,
like there's like, there's something about it
that's not even about the money.
It's just about, you know, winning.
It's a competitiveness.
And working and being busy. Like I get that. Bird is like, that tour he does, the Fully Loaded,
is like, it's set up the way, like he's like, I want it to be feel great all day. We're gonna
do fun shit all. It's like summer camp for adults. He brings a portable sauna and cold plunge in the
bus. I'm like, who the fuck are you, dude? Like this is an it's amazing. I mean, I love it. He brings
dumbbells. He's got a personal trainer. We're working out during the day. We're
getting drunk at night. We're performing. And I was like, this is kind of, I
guess how you do it. This is kind of the best.
I did one I did one where we woke up in upstate New York somewhere and there was a
there was a giant kennel of puppies it was like a fenced in thing with like 15 puppies in it
you just sat there playing with them.
I'm like why are you doing this to us?
So we just leave these fucking puppies?
Yeah yeah
That was brutal but uh oh dude I was on on the bus with Burt, Big J,
and Dan Soder.
That was the one where Bobby Lee,
the first night Bobby and I were having so much fun,
and that night, he, I guess, was mad.
He was in the top bunk, which I was too.
I don't like, I hate the top bunk.
And Bobby's, you know, like 50-something.
He falls off and cracks his face
and has to leave the tour.
Oh, right.
And no one knows, we're on this group thread,
no one knows he's going through this shit.
So he's just like, my face, I felt,
we think he's being Bobby,
he shows a picture of his face fucked up,
we think he's being silly.
And the one person who answers is Kyle Kanane who's coming in he just like zings him and
meanwhile he had to go to the hospital and the comedians were the fucking worst
and leave the tour and he was like devastated he was so he like wasn't
answering my text he was like really upset and then finally he did but then
yeah I mean we just like it was so fun I mean what other crazy shit did
you guys do during the day we played we did batting practice at the Savannah
bananas ballpark nice we did we did surfing I've never surfed in my life in
the city heck so that was cool and then was it a surf pool or was it in the
ocean it was in the ocean and Daytona Beach. Oh wow. It
was pretty cool. Damn. How'd you get up? I got up like in the first like couple
times yeah. Damn. I'm not I'm definitely not good at it but I got lucky early on.
Yeah. And and Bird is like pretty good at every sport. Yeah. But yeah what else? We
did a ton. Man I they were Soder and Jay were just pulling.
We were just all kind of fucked up on the bus and Soder and Jay keep pulling up
like these weird clips of just weird people and we all kind of taking turns
share and I shared just like they're all the clips.
Everyone's laughing at and then I pulled up a clip.
I'm like Sam.
I pull something up and like oh, it's Orson Welles telling this story about
meeting church.
I think it's like the funniest story and
they all just kind of they were all like fucked up they just like stared at me
like they didn't they were like what it was like a two-minute build-up to for
this punchline and they were just like huh I just like ruined I ruined everyone's
yeah yeah no he looked at Mike Lawrence and I said to each other like we're like obsessed with Orson Welles, we think he's hilarious.
So I thought they would die, but they were like, Norman loves it too. So I was like, ah, they'll love it.
Isn't there a clip of him drunk doing a commercial for wine or something?
Dude, it's end of his life is the funniest shit you've ever seen because he's just like he's this genius who has just got fucked over by the system so he's so angry and he's
doing these weird he's doing commercials for like peas or for for wine and yeah
yeah doing this French champagne Paul Mason and by take fours like Paul
Mason is a good wine and he's just bomb and he's so fat at that point yeah I
mean dude and he's yelling at the copywriter
because he doesn't like the alliteration.
He's like, why would you say PPP three words in a row?
This is garbage.
Oh, dude, that's the whole thing.
He's a genius.
But Hollywood just turned their back.
And the fucked up thing is they gave him this, like,
lifetime achievement Oscar.
Yeah.
No one would give him work.
So why don't you
think they were giving him work because his movies were almost too smart and
too good yeah and and all they care about everyone acts like it's new that
they just care about making money but he had you know I guess a few bombs he
wanted to make like Shakespeare and stuff yeah I mean Citizen Kane wasn't a
big commercial
hit it was oh is that right no it was afterwards and he nearly got
ruined by he was you know it was about William Randolph Hearst yeah and William
Randolph Hearst hated it like he was like of course he owned he owned all the
papers so he was like fuck trash this guy in the papers I'm gonna destroy this guy because he was mad they were making this movie based
on him and then he took it too far he called him a commie and that's when the
like a couple other papers were like this guy's a fucking tyrant fuck him yeah
so that was the only reason Citizen Kane even really survived but pretty ballsy
of the studio to even go forward with it knowing you
had to know that was gonna happen yeah and it was his first movie they just
gave him all it was a different time he just got complete creative control he
wrote directed and starred in his first movie dude I think he was 24 years old
24 or 25 he was crazy young yeah and he's and he's playing an old man in it too. Like it's insane. It is one of the most, if you re-watch this movie,
it's like fucking, it's insane.
It's the most ambitious thing ever and he makes it work
and it's like, oh dude, he had all these great movies
that just, like Touch of Evil,
Charlton Heston is playing a Mexican.
It's ridiculous.
It's like, you're like, wait, watching it now,
you're like, this is the dumbest fucking, it's still a great movie, but the casting choice, Yeah, the stuff just wasn't making money. So he was like, I'll go to Europe where I'm loved and he would just get investors to give
him money to make these tiny projects.
Have you been in any movies?
No, not really.
I had a bit of Pardon the Joker and I had...
Oh yeah, that's right.
It's always just like comedian or something.
No, not really. You're a comedian on stage in it?
Yeah, I'm a comedian on stage in the background and then
Norman and I wrote a movie, we'll see. It's such a long process, man.
You're just waiting and waiting and waiting.
Yeah, I know. And the stuff that gets made is so like cookie cutter now.
They really want
they you know they're back to rom-coms and I think it'll switch yeah yeah it's got to
I mean I think it's gonna switch when people start putting stuff out directly to there's
got to be a new movie channel that funds indie films like going back to like what it was
like in the in the early 90s
When you were making a hundred thousand dollar movies, dude, you're so right, you know, those were those are like all my some of my favorite movies
90s is such an underrated decade. Yeah, so many good fucking movies. I want that I'd never seen called bound with Jennifer
Taylor. Oh, yeah, and of course, that's a That's a great movie. Sexiest shit, that lesbian scene is insane.
Oh my God, but on top of that it's a great movie.
I looked it up, I was like,
oh I thought this was just like a hot movie,
I didn't know it was actually good.
Yeah, yeah.
Just like indie movies like that,
they were clearly low budget.
Dude, that's the dudes, now women,
who made The Matrix made that movie.
Oh no shit, really? Brothers then, now sisters, who made The Matrix, made that movie. The Waposky brothers then, now sisters, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Both of them became women.
And yeah, that movie, but like Simple Plan,
like Sam Raimi, like movies like that from the 90s,
they're fucking great.
Oh yeah, like Chasing Amy and
Yeah, I like that one.
Brothers McMullen was pretty good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And Burns.
Yeah, the Burns Brothers.
I wanna ask you some questions.
I came up with a list of questions to ask you.
Ask away.
Well, I wanna know about, like, rank the burros in New York.
Because you're a New Yorker.
You're one of the rare breeds that actually was born and grew up in New York.
So like, I know like the Beastie Boys had that album of the five burros, I think it was called.
And they served you some.
Brooklyn Bronx Queen and Staten.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So how would you rank them?
What order?
I mean, for me, it's prettyies. So how would you rank them? What order?
I mean, for me it's pretty easy.
Manhattan is one for me.
That's where I was born.
That's where I live.
Brooklyn is an easy two because it's just such a big borough.
There's so much to it.
There's so many different parts of Brooklyn.
Like you have so many, I mean, a lot of people Brooklyn won probably just due to the size. Yeah, but Queens three Bronx force Staten Island five,
but that's no that's no knock on Staten Island.
Like they're all good boroughs.
You tell me what's good about that.
I mean, I'm pretty naive.
I've been to Staten Island three times in my life.
Like the food is good.
Yeah, Italian food.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, great food.
I'm not gonna lie to you,
and actually I spend time there,
but every time I've been there,
I've been like, yeah, this is solid.
I mean, I get the allure.
Chris DiStefano was living there for a while,
and he drove me crazy,
because he'd be like, come do my podcast.
What'd it take you, 20 minutes to get here?
Try an hour 20.
Right, right.
Dude, there used to be a gig there called grandpas. And and it was and it was owned and
run by Grandpa Munster, the guy who played Grandpa Munster on
the Munsters. And he and he would like, not only did he make
you get there like an hour just back when you're like begging
for pay get this was like a road gig, you know, I'm going to
Staten Island. And you'd have to get there an hour early which meant like you said leaving
two hours two and a half hours before and then you took the ferry and then he
would make all the acts stay to the end because he was really into a curtain
call so you'd all have to do a curtain call then you're racing for the ferry
after that to get home again oh god god. The crowds were brutal. I did one there. I forgot the name of the club there
but it was like a known club there and it was just a hell gate. It was awesome. Yeah.
But I've also had good sets there. I mean you know. But yeah Bronx you have the Yankees.
You have also good food. It's New York. You can get good food wherever you go. I feel like the
Bronx is still not getting its due. I was born in the Bronx. I lived there for the
first like six years of my life. Both my parents are from the Bronx. But I
was in Throgs Neck and like that whole area, the east side of the Bronx, is
actually really fucking cool. There's like really intact kind of like turn of
the century neighborhoods where there's the butcher and the cheese shop
and you know, like real New York coffee shops
that are still like run by Greeks, you know?
And I don't know, there's something really charming
about like...
You're in a time machine almost.
It's almost like, it's like, I know what you mean.
I feel like, I feel like every time I've been
to Staten Island too, you're just like, you're in a grocery store, you just hear like, you know, Frankie Valley's playing, you it's like, I know you mean I feel like I feel like every time I've been to Staten Island to you're just like you
in a grocery store. You just hear like, you know, Frankie
Valley's playing you just like I feel like I feel like eggs
should be like $1.99. You know,
exactly. Right. Yeah, I think if I went if I was gonna move back
to my my aunt, well, my wife's aunt died, my mother and my
wife's mother
went to the same high school in the Bronx, they went to St.
Benedict's together. Isn't that fucking crazy? That is crazy. We
only realized that like years later. And, and she knew my
aunt, my mother-in-law knew my aunt. But, you know, so she had a
house that we just sold, she passed away. And it was a fucking fucking great house and it's three stories with a great basement little backyard
You know that like the last stop on the sixth train is like right there
You can take the train into the city and and everybody's super friendly. It's like a student
It's like a stoop neighborhood people sit on the stoops and hang out
My brother's kind of got that going where he's like way deep
in Brooklyn, but he's got he's like last train last stop off
the end. But then he's also got I mean, he has he drives he could
take the bike. He takes a bike into the city. Does he really?
Yeah, I would never do it. But yeah, he does that shit all the
time. And he Yeah, I mean, it's a nice life life they got a they had a nice situation and they're right yeah park
right yeah my brother's out on the other side of Prospect Park and he he rides the
bike in and he's got a crew of friends he said forever yeah it's cool
where do you live downtown? I'm in the village I'm like walking I'm like a
walk a five minute walk to the Comedy Cellar. So which airport do you like to fly out of? They all kind of
LaGuardia or Newark but yeah JFK JFK fucking sucks. It sucks. It's JFK is like
our LAX. LAX is I would say the worst airport ever but JFK is pretty bad. Yeah
my wife came to get me I flew by I had a sweet
gig last night I was at Tempe improv for the weekend but the Sunday night show.
I've never been there dude. I always do stand-up live I've never I've never done
Tempe but I heard Tempe is sick. It's sick it's great but the best part is the
Sunday night show was at six o'clock so I got off stage and I went to the airport and I flew home in a nine o'clock flight it was sweet and then my wife picked me up at
the airport it took her an hour to get into once she got to the airport it took
another 45 minutes to pick me up and you know it's Thanksgiving week but still
crazy yeah I did I did hilarities over the weekend we it was
that's such a great club and I'm there in two weeks I love it yeah yeah name yeah
yeah and the best part is like the food is outstanding it's one of the few
comedy clubs you look forward to the meal so good yeah I was eating like you
should you're ordering like a fucking salmon you know I got a wall crusted
walleye I'm like this is ridiculous yeah you eat, I got a wall, a crusted walleye, I'm like, this is ridiculous.
Yeah.
You eat so many, we did three shows on Saturday,
so I was like, I'm stuffing my face.
You did three shows?
I, I shouldn't do it, but I'm kinda like, fuck,
I don't know, I'm working on stuff anyway,
I'm building back up anyway, so I'm like, what the hell?
Damn.
What is that, did you hang out with the owner, Nick Costas?
Was he around?
Of course, yeah.
He made it super dark.
I mean, pulling the thing Nick does,
he'll tell a story about someone dying.
I'm like, I just got here.
Give me a minute.
Yeah, right, right.
But no, I love Nick.
I love Nick.
Yeah, we hung a lot.
We were talking just comedy.
He's talking about how much he loved Richard Jenney.
I love Richard Jenney.
Oh, yeah.
I love Richard Jenney. Jenney's one of the of the most I think underrated comics of all time like of all time yeah he did
specials every I think his specials were on Showtime so people didn't see them as much as
like the HBO specials is that right or we so I don't know I don't know I think he did some HBO
ones I I usually listen to him just on audio and stuff.
He's such a good joke writer. Sometimes with jokes I just like to listen.
Well he was a sick joke writer but he was also physically he was so precise. Like if you saw him do a show three times and if he said the word skateboard his fingers were in the same spot,
his arm was at the same length, and he was like a dancer. He like were in the same spot. His arm was at the same length and
he he was like a dancer. He like moved around the stage. He was amazing.
He had one of my favorite jokes because you know the difference between Charles
Manson and every woman I've ever dated is Charles Manson had the decency to
look like a lunatic when you first meet him. That is fucking great. That's
amazing. Yeah he got he got bummed out at the end. Things were slowing down for him and he got bummed out.
It's just like show business tough. I think he could have had a resurgence because he was so beloved by. Yeah, I mean, shit. I mean, Rogan loves him. That's a guy that would like propped him up. You know, so many comics I tell I feel like I feel like he was like shiml shiml was the same way yeah I could see that you know to my favorites to watch for sure I
mean they just went on the road they they didn't you know other than platypus
man was a sitcom that lasted like half a season like neither one of them got any
time on TV or film they just hit the road like 40 weeks a year every year
Isn't it funny that that's kind of now the dream though to be able to do the road and stuff
Yeah, and in the 90s though
They were like the road. This is like the sad thing, but no it was it's kind of great
Yeah, I guess the money is better on the road now, but I remember when I met David Letterman. He was just kind of like
He's like you wait you put out specials for free I don't under he like he couldn't
understand why I would do that and I was like right well you know it helps the
road and that was kind of the goal is to make things better on the road yeah he
was just like I we didn't do that was for us it was to get on TV and I was
like I is different ages yeah well I also think the road is a lot more
livable because now you got an agent and
a manager they're doing you know there's there's better flights there's a limo
picking you up like it's there's a process because these clubs are used to
people coming in every week and they're the hospitality end of it is really good
you know and there's good restaurants in every city now and phones. I mean that's a big
thing about like if you want to call a friend back in the day, how much you racking up on a long
distance bill. I remember talking to Judy Gold about that and she was like, you guys don't
fucking understand. It was so lonely. Yep. Now you couldn't use the hotel phone
No, you couldn't use the hotel phone because as long as you go to the pay phone you'd get a calling card and then you know as far as TV there was like five channels. There was no fucking streaming.
You find out you missed a gig you're like De Niro and Goodfellas just smacking a fucking phone in the booth.
Yeah man, the pager. Had that pager going. Did you really have the pager had that pager going did you really have a
pager then yep 7803279 I that's how I got all my gigs on the pager and then
you always walked around the city with a pocketful of quarters say it became 35
cents after a while which really pissed you off then you need the dimes also and
then when you then you call in your avails and so you'd have to like you'd have to
have a pocketful of coins to call because I was doing Boston so I was
leaving a ball of ales in Boston and and New York every week it was brutal yeah I
remember the phone avails I mean it must have been so much better if you're
writing though that you're not just constantly staring at a phone,
but meanwhile, there weren't the means
to put out this level of content
because you can't just upload stuff to YouTube.
You can't just do a podcast.
You can't just, so your brain is probably sharper,
but I guess you just wrote.
I guess you just had hours of material
that's yeah like that type of comic yeah and when you and you were you were
listening to your sets on like a cassette tape recorder you know these
big bulky cassette tape recorders and yeah I just remember like being in being
in the hotel room for the weekend, there was no TV to watch,
there was no phone to be on, so I would like take baths.
That was my thing, is I'd record my set,
then the next day I'd take a bath,
and I'd listen to my recorder with a notebook
on the side of the bathtub,
and I would like tweak every fucking word.
Like if something was a little bit different,
I made a note of it and I did it differently that night.
I look at my stand up in my first 12 years and it's so much tighter than it is now.
Yeah, of course.
I also think there's something to like a comics early work where there's this sense of urgency
and desperation.
Like this has to work.
I have to, your first act, I mean think about when you're doing like a corporate or something,
how often a college or something like that where you just have to find a way to connect something about that first hour
is so uh universal because you had to get work with that hour and then you kind of become more
you and you and you want to feel like something is lost like it is good to become more and more you
but you don't become too indulgent or you become kind of
just like not that relatable. Yeah I know there's a few comics that have got like
that that I used to really enjoy and I still respect them but I don't like I
scroll past their posts now I just go like I know what it's gonna be I know
what exactly it's gonna be. Leaving jokes what exactly it's gonna be. But I remember. Leaving jokes is so important.
I remember like the first special like
so obsessed with tape night.
Like all right, I'm gonna get up,
I'm gonna work out early so I'm not too tired.
I'm gonna have only protein.
I'm gonna fucking brush my teeth at this time.
You know, it's like I'm gonna press my clothes
the night before.
Like every detail was just so thought out.
Because like you said, it could not go wrong.
I see that.
Sometimes I see younger comics
and I'm a little envious of that feeling.
Even though I'm glad I'm not.
Look, I still get nervous.
It's not like I don't still get nervous,
but there's something really cool
when you see a young comic
and they're just hungry and they're fighting.
I see it at the cellar, I see some of the new guys
and they're excited and they should be
because they got all this fun stuff ahead of them.
So it's cool.
Yeah, you know who I like watching?
He was just out in LA last week.
Was that kid from SNL, Marcelo?
Dude, he's funny.
He's really funny.
Dude, he's funny as shit. And he's so charismatic.
Oh man I just did a show so there's these one like some New York shit.
There are these guys I'm actually wearing a Peter Luger hat right now because
there's these guys who do a show they do a show at Peter Luger. No shit really?
They do all the New York all the New York spots. So they do, I did one at Paragon Sports, I did one at
Peter Luger.
Oh, so pop-up shows.
Pop-up shows, but they're usually really good shows. Usually, I've had, Peter Luger was
great to the point that we got Bodega Cat, me and Norman's Whiskey's at Peter Luger
now, which is hilarious.
No!
It's crazy, we're at the strip house, Peter Luger, we're getting in all the cool spots,
which is amazing. So we go to Katz's Deli to do a pop-up show and I keep getting
fucking it's one of those things where the show is at 10 and I just keep they're
like you'll be on by 11 and I'm like alright but I'm like so they're like
we should feel so bad like it's running late but here have a sandwich I'm like
alright so now I'm like feeling like a piece of shit I'm drinking my own whiskey
with doing pickle backs with their pickle juice, you know?
And then Louie, I saw Louie at the cellar.
He's like, I'm doing the show too.
I'll see you over there.
I'm going after you.
I think I was like, oh great.
So Louie goes in and I guess he thought I went on already.
He just goes on.
He didn't come to the green room or anything.
He's like, oh, I'm next.
And he does like 30.
So I'm like, fuck, this is really getting pushed back.
Yeah, then then Marcelo and I are the only one left and he's like I got to shoot a thing at 6 a.m
Tomorrow. I'm like go ahead go ahead
He was nice about it, but like yeah, you know, I'm like fuck and then he goes along and I'm like god damn it
Yeah, and then it's like before I know it it's like
1207 or something and you're in a deli. I'm in a deli. Oh, I fucking hate it. I hate it it's like 1207 or something and you're in a deli I'm in a deli oh I
fucking ate it I ate it so hard dude that and I ate it on a full stomach of
two fucking cats of sandwiches I hated myself so much you're buzzed you feel
guilty that you drank yeah yeah but what a lineup Jesus Christ how much they
paying for those gigs I don't remember they're generous it was I I mean, and they don't announce you, which is awesome.
You know, they pack them out.
Yeah.
But they're generous.
But I forgot what it was,
but those crowds can be really cool young people,
or those young people that are like,
I'm like, shit, they think I'm a,
it's one of those rooms where you have to be conscious
of how likable you are.
Yeah.
Where I'm like, shit, I opened with a joke
that they're gonna think is mean too early.
I talk to Gary Veeder about this all the time on the road
where Gary has a lot of jokes shitting on his wife
and they'll be like, and he's like, I love her.
They're jokes, you idiots.
And they're not even that harsh,
but I think people feel weird laughing sometimes.
And it's like, all right, gotta open extra self self deprecating so they're comfortable laughing at these you know. No it really
is I struggle with that because I get invited to do show like I won't go to
Los Feliz I won't go to any of those like Echo Park anything in East the East
side of Hollywood where it's really precious even that like I live in Venice
I won't do shows in Venice because it is like you said, if you're not likable
and you're not relatable and you're not self-deprecating,
then they just feel like they just get injured
and then I get so fucking mad.
The second I sense that from them,
then I feel self-conscious and I feel old
and I feel irrelevant and I do a horrible fucking set
and I just can't put,
I can't put myself through that shit anymore I really just want to work the main clubs
in LA yeah I feel that way too but then sometimes I go back and forth I'm like
fuck am I not really I want to be relatable I want yeah people so I
struggle with that because I do want to do all the shows but fuck I have a joke
I think it's funny it bombs so fucking hard in this room where I said, I think I put it too early,
where I was like, my girlfriend's always complaining
what a mess my place is.
She's like, you're such a slob,
why don't you get a housekeeper?
And I said, the same reason I don't get a prostitute,
you're crushing it, you know?
And silence from a big fucking room.
And that's one where you're like, oh shit,
I guess I gotta cushion these jokes. Clearly that's a silly you're like oh shit I guess I got a cushion these jokes
yeah silly joke but uh yeah man so I know I I agree with you and I disagree
because I'm like shit I just go back and forth yeah no I do too and then once in
a while I slip and I go all right fuck it I'll do it and it can be magic like it
can be a very like if you get
them right out of the gate like Largo in LA is like that like Largo can be a
little bit well it's just there's like an agenda of what they like you know and
look Bill burgo is there and he kills he loves it there so but Bill kind of likes
a fistfight he kind of likes it when they just... On and off stage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let me ask you this. Rank the suburbs, Long Island, Westchester, and Jersey.
Geez, I mean Jersey is a state so that's tough.
Yeah, but you know what I mean. Like the parts of Jersey that are suburbs of New York.
Jeez, it's so hard.
I feel like more of my family in Long Island,
so I probably would lean Long Island one.
But just because I'm more used to it.
But I don't really know.
I don't spend time, I'm always in the city or the road,
so I don't really spend time there.
So I would probably go Long Island.
I guess I gotta go Jersey and then Westchester Westchester just feels why do you like Westchester? I'm from Tarrytown. Fuck I do like Tarrytown all right. Do you do the
musical? I've done it yeah it's great. Yeah it's great. I did it with Adele
back in the day and I remember leaving there he was so funny and he was just
such a bad mood and I remember leaving and he's like oh I'm such a fucking hack and
I was just like dude you're the best like yeah you're all of our favorites and
I go yeah I'm funnier than you guys but uh oh my god he makes me feel so to this
day like I saw him the other night and I'm like I feel so fucking unfunny after like he's so good. Yeah
He had some new shit that I was like, are you fucking kidding me? And of course, he's not happy about it
Uh-huh. I love him. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I do I do like that area. Okay, maybe
Maybe I'll put them too. I just I'm thinking in sports terms because a jersey
Yeah, fuck maybe I mean, you know what fuck it actually that's West Chester is closer to the city Maybe I'll put them too. I'm thinking in sports terms because of Jersey.
Fuck, maybe, I mean you know what, fuck it actually.
Westchester's closer to the city.
So I'm gonna go Westchester one.
And I'm gonna do a complete reverse.
Westchester one, Long Island two.
Because like, Terrytown's like what,
20 minutes from the city?
20 minutes from the city and we're on the Hudson River
where we used to swim when I was a kid.
Hudson's beautiful. You got like and the best thing is like Long Island you got one
fucking road in and out LIE and it's a parking lot. If you're in Westchester
you got the Bronx River Parkway, you got the Sawmill, you got the Cross Bronx, you
got the Taconic. There's so many ways into the city. Yeah, I've done, I'm thinking Jersey and like,
I don't really know, see I think,
other than the comedy clubs, I don't know it that well.
Do you do the Stress Factory in New Brunswick?
A million times.
That is always a story.
You come back from that club with a story every time.
Yeah, Vinny's out of his mind, but I love him.
And yeah, I mean, it's, I always, I love the room.
The room is just kinda, like I do better in that room
with my jokes than they deserve to do, I feel like.
They, you get like a little bump
because of how on top of each other,
last time I was there, my buddy Dennis showed up
just fucking wasted.
My childhood friend, his dad used to,
his dad was like a giant party animal.
He loved it.
I mean, he passed away a while back, but Dennis is there,
so I'm like, can I tell a story about your dad?
And he's in the crowd, and he's like, yeah.
So I'm like, all right, I'm telling this story.
He used to get us fucked up when we were kids,
and we would go to the bar with him.
We'd be like 18 or something, and we walked in.
I remember one night, we must have been like 1920 or whatever,
and we walk into a bar, and his dad would just walk up he walked up to
this hot older woman he was like lady what I would give to fuck you up the ass
and we were like oh my god what the hell is he doing even then we're like Jesus
Christ so I walked up to and I was like I'm so sorry about that he's a fucking
asshole and she and and she goes finally a gentleman and and behind her he's a fucking asshole. And she goes, finally, a gentleman.
And behind her, he's doing this.
He was trying to set us up.
He's being a piece of shit so we look good.
And I ended up hooking up with that woman.
No.
Yeah, because she blew me.
He didn't get her in the ass though.
He was trying to get you in the ass.
He was trying to get in the ass.
But he was like that type of dude that was just outrageous.
He did have a good heart and that's awesome
Surprisingly had a good heart after all the cocaine he did but in the end
Did you ever get hurt from drinking like while you were drunk?
injured
nothing horrible I
When I was like really young, you know like minor fights, but like I couldn't fight so that they ended pretty quickly.
So that was the-
But you seem like you drink, but you're a good drunk.
That's the only way I can keep going,
is because I don't get that drunk anymore.
I'll just, you know, I'll get like a buzz on,
but like it takes the joy out of it
when you get really fucked up, you know?
Like the last time I got really fucked up
was on Burt's cooking show with Rick Flair
And it was like it was all I don't remember anything I saw Jim Norton the next night at the cell or like the next week at the cellar and he was like
He was like dude. What a nice voice mode you and Bert left me and I was like no idea what you're talking about
He played it for me. It was fucking brutal. Yeah, like just just bird night making no sense but being like, oh we fucking love you Jim
You're fucking awesome. But I don't enjoy getting that fucked up. I got it. It's not worth it for me
I don't like losing a whole day, but I do like I do love
There's nothing like the wind hitting your face in the in the winter leaving a bar
Yeah, with a nice buzz. He had a few whiskeys. I love that. Right. And when you do We Might Be Drunk, are you guys drinking every episode?
Not every episode because sometimes we'll have a sober guest on and we don't want to, you know,
we kind of just try to do whatever they do. Right.
Yeah, I think we've had drinks with people who don't drink on before. Yeah, we just did one with
Hasan Minhaj and he's like, we were drinking and he was like, oh, I don't drink. And I was like, oh, I heard you like banana stuff. We're doing like a banana Manhattan. And he's like, I like fifth drinking buddy off, like we don't drink that much together anymore off the podcast because we're just never around but I mean he's like one of my favorite
people to drink with that that's how the pod started he's just a we're both good
drunks we just get more and more positive I think when we get drunk yeah
yeah so it's it's easy so do you feel like your friendship is closer because
you're like when you drink you're a little more like you said you're a little
more emotional and like yeah yeah but no one likes a really emotional drunk that guy's too the guy
who's like you're my best friend dude I'm like you I'm like we barely know
each other that's the weird drunk where you're like yeah god the guy who takes
it up it's almost like the it's almost like you're like fuck this is like how
women feel there's like a little uncomfortable yeah yeah it's also
pushing this on me you also get that after shows when somebody comes out.
And like this happened to me two nights ago in Tempe
and this guy comes out and he's like super alpha male.
He's got on like an IZOD shirt
and his hair is like a little bit.
And he comes up and he grabs my hand
like hard handshake with the pull in,
with the Trump pull in.
And then he's like, he's's like you're fucking great man that and I said to him I go look
dude I'm gonna need you to take one step back you know like this is too intense
yeah I said this is a little intense I need you to take it down a notch and oh
yeah it's like no he's oh yeah totally good that's the thing I find that if
you put up boundaries with people that are obnoxious They totally respond to them because they just like they kind of know
Yeah, you know, yeah
I had a friend bring a friend over to my place recently and his friend is a lot like it's one of like
He's kind of like, you know
And you have your limit to what your friend can be, and then they have their limit,
and they bring them over, and the guy's just obnoxious.
He just says shit, and he like blames it,
he keeps blaming it on autism.
I'm like, no, I think he's rude.
I think he seems confident.
I don't think this is what autism is.
He's like, no, he's autistic.
I'm like, he's very confident.
He's looking me in the eye.
He's insulting like everything.
He's just a weird dude, but yeah, he was drunk, and he keeps trying to talk about the Middle East, and I'm like, we don't even know each other. and Do you think Mark Norman has a you think he's on the spectrum I
Think he can't help himself. I don't think he's on this look. We're all on a spectrum I guess right I think mark is I think he's fine
I think he's just I mean he I only say cuz he's mentioned it in his act like he's he's made a joke about I think
He thinks he is I don't think I think I would argue he's not because yeah, I think he his social skills are too good
He's I just think his brain works so fast
That he seems like he has something, you know, he's got that rain man ability to like put thoughts together
Yeah, I think he can't help himself like he can't stop the words that are coming out of his mouth and time
But I don't think that means he's autistic. I think he just
words that are coming out of his mouth and time but I don't think that means he's autistic I think he just because he's also very if you just get him one
on one too he's very skilled socially like he's a very yeah right and he's and
I think he does you know yeah I would say I don't think he is because I know
autistic people and I think it's much more I guess there's a spectrum but the
ones I know it's much more severe than what he has.
Is he your eulogy guy? If you die, is he the guy doing your eulogy?
I hope not. He's gonna plug tour dates at the end.
I got four tonight at the stand. Oh god, he's gonna kill me. Comedy.
Gonna miss him I don't know that's
hilarious all right speaking of tour dates I'm gonna read some of yours Jesus
Christ it sounds like you're doing some clubs to get the set together and then
you're doing a run of theaters yeah I can get by right now doing new stuff. But it's like,
you know, you just want to make sure it's airtight for when you
when you when you hit it that hard.
Yeah, so so the club dates are San Antonio, January 3 and 4,
Cincinnati, January 10 and 11. Pittsburgh, we do doing the
Pittsburgh improv. Yeah, that's a that's a it. That's a down-and-dirty club
You got to earn it there. I like yeah, yeah January 23rd to 25th and then
Charlotte after that and then the tour starts
Richmond Philly DC Bethlehem Tulsa Austin Houston Memphis New Orleans Knoxville Nashville
I mean, it's just it goes on
New Orleans, Knoxville, Nashville. I mean, it's just, it goes on and on.
I mean, they're coming to your city now,
or it will be in the fall, but I'm hitting like,
at least, I think it's like 48 cities in a few months.
So, some of them are dead.
Are you taking a tour bus?
The whole time, except for the first few days,
it's a tour bus, so that'll be interesting
to see how that works.
Have you done that before?
We did it on a few runs last year, I loved it. I mean everyone thinks that you know
comedians party super hard but we were like pretty disciplined. I mean we drank
pretty much every night but you know and by we I mean me and my tour manager
Brian and James who films. Gary doesn't drink but you know we I just get a
bunch of DVDs. We watch some movies on there, we drink some whiskey, we wake
up, we find a rec center, we play ball, and then get breakfast. And then we, I
love the tour bus because you just have a day in that city, you don't have to
travel all day. Yeah, you don't have to pack and unpack, your shit is already in the bus.
And then, and then, where do you shower? Either the rec center or the
where the venue will have a shower sometimes. And usually they have a shower.
Do you ever have to rent the hotel room for showers?
I haven't but Ari told me he does that he's done that before. So I haven't it
hasn't come to that because we just my tour manager is thorough and great. So he
knows where there's going to be a shower. yeah if the if the venue doesn't have it we'll just
most it's the thing with the South and the Midwest and stuff all these new rec
centers these government funded ones are like gorgeous they know shit really we
go we go to like the Y or whatever and there'd be a sauna or a steam room
there and I'd be like where the fuck was this? I love the Y.
The Y is the YMCA and AAA are the last two American institutions that I can get
behind. It's AAA man you call you don't know because you don't have a car but
like my whole life you call AAA they're there in fucking 10 minutes the guys
are friendly they know what they're doing it costs like 99 bucks a year it's great yes same with though I mean I used to go to the rec
center in the city it was like 150 for the year and it's like think about what
a gym in New York cost I mean holy shit he had everything there is amazing wait
you go to the rec center or the YMCA in New York well they had rec centers and
I'd go to both in my life but I mean, rec centers in the city had like pools and yeah.
I mean, it's crazy how crowded they get.
You're literally just Asian dudes love to swim, do a lot of Asian dudes,
just like tight physiques, strong old Asian dude.
And and basketball courts is great.
I mean, yeah, you get it.
We get games cooking and it would get it would get physical we got one guy in Portland and I was like this
guy he's like I'm a fan I was like oh cool and then he he then he was guarding
Brian and getting like fucking physical my tour manager Brian is like a fucking
he does he's a take no shit type of guy and he's like he doesn't give a shit and
he's like fucking elbowing him back I I'm like god. They don't get a fight I'm gonna lose a fan. This guy's gonna get a refund for the show tonight, but I
Mean I love it dude. It's so fun. Yeah, that's awesome. You're not coming to LA though. I noticed
I tried to on that West Coast run, but they wouldn't give me the venue. I wanted that night
We lost it. So I ended up doing Sacramento instead, but I doing Sacramento instead but I'll come in the fall. I'm also thinking maybe I shoot my next special in LA
because I've never done a West Coast special and I kind of like my crowd out
in LA. Oh you do? Oh okay. I don't like crowds in LA. I like my crowd in LA. As
you say I don't I don't particularly love crowds in LA but there are good
there are definitely comedy fans. There's people that like that's why I like the stores. I feel like
it really attracts the people that understand comedy and they they see it a
lot you know. I had these two guys last night in Tempe. It was so cool. They're
sitting at a table together and somebody he said something and I go oh you guys
friends and he goes yeah I go how long you been friends he goes like six months I go oh a new friendship I go that's kind you guys friends. And he goes, yeah, I go, how long you been friends? He goes, like six months.
I go, oh, a new friendship.
I go, that's kind of interesting.
How'd you meet?
And he goes, we came to see David Tell
and we both came alone and we sat together.
And ever since then, we've gone to see
like five or six shows together.
And I was like, that's so fucking cool.
I love people that come to shows alone.
They're the best.
Me too. I saw Nikki used to post about that a lot. Like Nikki Gl that come to shows alone. They're the best. I saw Nikki used
to post about that a lot. Like Nikki Glaser used to say, I think it's like she
would repost people coming alone and be like yeah cool and I was like I like
that she did that. Because I think it's going to shit alone is fine. I mean
like just because laughter, you're still sharing the experience with other people.
Like I used to go to movies alone on the road all the time and I loved it.
Yeah for sure. Alright listen man and your special we want to plug your
special it's called You've Changed and it's been out what for like four months?
It's been out for a minute yeah it's on Amazon on Prime Video. Okay I'm sorry I
didn't get a chance to watch it but I can't wait to see it.
Who the fuck watches comedy anymore?
Well I'll watch the first 20 minutes.
Comedians it's hard.
But for comedians it's hard. I don't want to get influenced ever. I'll watch clips and stuff but
I'm always nervous I'm going to get influenced by a bit's going to fall into my head.
But I should watch more. There's so many good ones out there.
Yeah, right, but I I should watch more. I've there's so many good ones out then Yeah, I do Anthony DeVito. My friend is always like always listening to comedy and I and and he says it helps him
Right because it just gets his mind in joke mode
Well, it also makes me push myself harder because I just look at somebody who's really got a tight special
I go come on man. You can fucking do you could do that?
But I always enjoy so much comedy I always watch YouTube man you're fucking great comic but I always watch I was watching
a tell and you know I see a lot of comedy at the cellar I'll just like
stick in the room and watch a little bit and so I feel like I still get a fix and
also it's like in the last couple weeks it's been like a tell Louie you know Colin Quinn like all
these great comics are always there yeah Bill Burr so I see a lot of I see a lot
of good comedy there yeah that's great all right man well I'll see you soon I'm
gonna be in New York in January so maybe I'll hit you up we gotta get you on that
pod man oh yeah that'd be great, I would love that.
Yeah, we'd love to have you on.
Okay, cool.
All right, brother.
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