F**kface - A Variety of Lawsuits//Bog Roll Folders? [16]

Episode Date: September 16, 2020

Geoff, Gavin, and Andrew talk about assembled Andrew's legal team, Geoff's fake first place Garfield finish, bog roll folders, and more. Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fuckfacepod/.... Sponsored by Tushy. Go to http://hellotushy.com/face for 10% off! Also sponsored by RTX. Shop RTX at Home exclusively at http://store.roosterteeth.com from September 15th to the 25th! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:40 Okay, hold on. 3, 2, 1. One more time? That's pretty good, right? No, I'm good. My hands are sore. Fucking Eric, you're the Three, two, one. One more time? That's pretty good, right? No, I'm good. My hands are sore. Fucking Eric, you're the announcer. You got hired. I listened to the episode yesterday.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I was looking for a hand signal, and I was lost. I was just guessing. We just announced on Instagram that Eric got the gig as the new announcer, and then he fucking flubs it. All right, take it away, Eric. Hey, guys, welcome to F*** Face. This is episode 16. I hope everyone's having a really good time.
Starting point is 00:02:07 And I'm going to turn it over to your host, Jeff Ramsey, Gavin Free, and Andrew Patton. What's it about though? I didn't finish. Hey F*** Faces, what's going on today in your crazy world of collections, funny pranks, and wacky fart noises? Don't put us in a box.
Starting point is 00:02:23 We should talk about one of those things. Hey Andrew, I didn't put us in a box. We should talk about one of those things. Hey, Andrew, I didn't put you there. Well, I was... No comment. I feel like I already did a whole rant before we started the episode,
Starting point is 00:02:35 Gavin, but you missed it. What I was... And I realize this is not the Face Jam podcast. This is the F*** Face podcast and everybody's like just doing the shipping
Starting point is 00:02:44 F*** Face Jam collaborations and stuff. But I don't want to go down that road. But I will say I just read that CNN on CNN that Taco Bell is eliminating five more items from their menu. And they are they are eliminating me as a customer because they keep removing the shit that I eat. And I'm angry about it. I don't really like that place. I think Jack took me there too many times and I went off it.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Taco Bell is, uh, it's, you know, it's a crime to eat Taco Bell when living in a city like Austin, Texas that has just an amazing amount of variety. And Jack is, like, born and raised in Austin. I know. But we still, it's still, like, if
Starting point is 00:03:23 you ask Millie, Ramsey, the one place on earth she wants to eat is Taco Bell. So we still, it's still like, if you ask Millie Ramsey, the one place on earth she wants to eat, it's Taco Bell. So we eat there probably once a week. And I have been eating a Mexican pizza pretty fucking regularly for like the last 30 years. And now they've decided
Starting point is 00:03:37 to eliminate the goddamn Mexican pizza, which I'm not okay with, Gavin. Like I was telling Andrew earlier, first they got rid of my Enchirito. Then they got rid of my Big Beef Maxi Melt. Now I got no goddamn Mexican pizza. There's nothing left for me to eat on the goddamn Taco Bell menu
Starting point is 00:03:51 but a fucking bean burrito and a fucking hard taco. Is a Mexican pizza a pizza that goes up on the left side and then it goes up in the middle and then goes up on the right side and back down? Nah, it's not that cool.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Okay. I wish it was. Anyway, sorry, getting off track. Andrew, we have not been contacted by your legal representation. No. No, I'm... Well, what do you mean? For what?
Starting point is 00:04:13 I got a variety of lawsuits going on. Could you be more specific, Jeff? In what context? I feel like I haven't heard the episode, because we record these in a weird sequence, but I feel like that we ended things with you refusing to acknowledge that you agreed to eat a pencil and you told us we'd be hearing you know you know what I have I have some clips I've got some clips oh bring the clips here's a clip how about this Andrew you owe Gavin $50 I do but I'm also I'm okay continue what if
Starting point is 00:04:42 we double down if you win the bet, that is absolved, right? And Gavin gives you $50, okay? So it's initially a $100 swing. Your $50 debt is wiped out and you receive $50 from Gavin. However, if you lose, you still owe Gavin the initial $50, but you must film yourself eating a leadless pencil.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Oh! Oh! That wasn't me. That wasn leadless pencil. Oh! Oh! That wasn't me. That wasn't my voice. That wasn't my voice. Bonus clip. A digital handshake on this, Andrew. Digital handshake, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:13 You feel like we've got all the details that you wanted in there? I feel like it. I'm a little opposed to the pennies, but... I'm a little worried about the safety of it. Should we check in with a doctor to make sure it's safe for you to eat a pencil on camera? It's not safe. Of course it isn't. I'm gonna win. So I'm not gonna eat the pencil. Oh, shit! Wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I reject that that's my voice. I don't know where you got that recording from. It is you, though, because I was... It didn't sound like me. I don't know. Maybe my reception is a little bad on this Discord call. It sounded nothing like me. Hmm. Jeff, what do you think? You think that was him? Hoisted by his own petard i heard it right there he even he even responded in the clip to the name andrew it's true i don't well i mean i don't know if that was staged i don't know what
Starting point is 00:05:54 the context is for that clip i couldn't really hear it due to the lag in the discord chat so i'm gonna refrain from from commenting specifically on that well my next question i rejected that as mine has your pencil arrived yet? For what context? Because I don't know what you're talking about. What do you mean? I feel like I feel like kind of regretting that digital handshake.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I feel like maybe it meant nothing to you, Andrew. Why? I don't. The clip you played was hard to hear. I don't know what digital handshake you're talking about. I never agreed to eat a pencil. I'm not really sure what to do about this. Like the way you're acting, I'm not really sure how to handle it. I was a little bit worried about this.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I was concerned because we had a text conversation about this issue. I was very clear then that not me. I never made that promise. I don't know what you're talking about. So as Jeff mentioned earlier, I I created a legal team Consulted some lawyers. I tracked down I have three law students at varying levels and one straight-up lawyer and I have formed the defense group we have a discord chat and We've been discussing how to progress further with this so I I'm fine going to a judge
Starting point is 00:07:04 We can all agree upon some sort of arbitrator that can make this choice right and uh i i think that should be the next step because i i reject that i did that have your lawyers seen exhibit a and b that i just played have they heard i have presented the things that you refer to as evidence to them and they have discussed it and uh they have they've come up with this document for me that I'll share in the discord. It's a two parter. I have a legal doc
Starting point is 00:07:32 for you to process and I await further arbitration. Arbitration? It sounded like a fancy word. Do you want to read this aloud for us? Yeah. The pencil eating, R. Yeah. The pencil eating,
Starting point is 00:07:46 R.E. the pencil eating bet. Dear Jeff Ramsey and Gavin Free, we represent your colleague, Andrew Panton, in regard to this supposed pencil eating contract made between yourselves and our client. You have continued to incorrectly assert that our client agreed to wager, whereupon if he were to lose, he would consume a pencil, a dangerous and completely unreasonable act that no sane individual would undertake willingly.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Yet here we are, I'd like to point out. I'm a sane individual. I'd never make this. Our client asserts. Please, sir. I'm reading. Our client asserts that when discussing the matter, Mr. Ramsey specifically stated that failure in completing the task would then require our client to orally consume a leadless pencil. The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines a pencil as an implement for writing, drawing, or marking
Starting point is 00:08:34 consistent or containing a slender cylindrical or a strip of a solid marking substance. Thus, our client could not possibly have to have to a common understanding with Mr. Ramsey or Mr. Free on what he was to consume if he failed to complete the initial act. Since by definition, a leadless pencil does not fit the meaning of the word pencil. Ergo, no contract was formed and our
Starting point is 00:08:58 client is under no obligation to perform the specified task. He's getting out of it based on the technicalities of what a pencil is. Welcome to the law, baby. Yeah, just, I mean, fucking Bill Clinton built a defense around the word is
Starting point is 00:09:11 and, you know, succeeded. If a contract was formed, prior accounts have ruled when parties to a contract leave an integral term vague and undefined, the completing party is free to assign
Starting point is 00:09:22 any meaning to the term as long as to coincide with the object. this is fucking nonsense. These are words that put together mean nothing. Objective meaning of the term is commonly understood. As our client is a generous individual, he is willing to comply with initial agreement, although under- I'm going to switch to the next fucking page. No obligation to do so, provided he is allowed to choose the pencil he is to consume at a
Starting point is 00:09:45 later date and time. If you continue to assert that our client must comply with the unreasonable terms that you have laid out, we'll be forced to take legal action to protect the reputation and respectability of our client. Respectively, Harvey Birdman. I believe that's a cartoon. Attorney at law. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Huh. Didn't expect that. I thought that I thought the letter would go on to sort of deny that it was Andrew to begin with, but the fact that he, he basically has now admitted that that was him in the conversation. However, the definition of a pencil is what's collapsing around us.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I don't know what you're talking about. And I will be referring to all things going forward as a writing utensil based under my guidance. So you'll be eating a writing utensil? No, I won't be eating anything, and I'm unsure what a writing utensil is, but I'm told to say that. Well, Gavin? Huh.
Starting point is 00:10:35 How would you like to... Well, first off... What's annoyed me is that I didn't expect this, and I should have, because it's Andrew we're dealing with. I should have expected this. Huh. I'm a very honorable guy. I just want what's fair there's a very honorable there is zero honor here there is zero honor all you've done is denied that that was you and then you've just disappeared off the face of the planet and come back with a legal team uh no well i i reject that i think uh what you said was very hurtful but but I'm such a kind person. I'll forgive you for it.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I think I'm just being honest and displaying the facts as I see them. And if we want to advance to having a impartial judge of some sorts review both sides of our case, I'm open to that. Okay, okay, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Well, Gavin, it sounds to me like you probably need some sort of legal representation yourself. I don't know if you want to go the route Andrew went. Can I just go twos up with you? That seems like less effort. Well, listen, I'm glad you asked. I'm not a part of this bet.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I view myself... Oh, you are absolutely in. I was a facilitator in the beginning. I was trying... Let me finish what I'm saying kind sir The point is, Andrew you and Gavin, you guys wanted to have a bet
Starting point is 00:11:53 I was there to work as a middleman to help you both agree to the terms of the bet, thus making me an independent arbiter I nominate myself as the judge in this arbitration That's pretty impartial. There's no way you're impartial.
Starting point is 00:12:08 No, that's right. I have no skin in this game. I didn't come up with a bet. He didn't come up with a bet like you and I did. He's not eating the pencil. You are. He's completely impartial. All right, here's the deal, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Go ahead. Here's the deal. This podcast has three members. Yep. Three stars, if you will. Andrew, Gavin, and Jeff. There is a person on one side of the bet and a person on the other side, and then that leaves one other person to be the independent arbiter.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I'll say this. In the terms of fairness, if you would rather it be Gavin, if you would rather Gavin be the independent arbiter, that's fine. But I think you're better off with me than him. I don't think we should restrict it necessarily to the three of us. I think an outside party or even I'd do OK with Eric being a impartial arbiter. As the producer, I feel like he has to be impartial. But you are absolutely not impartial.
Starting point is 00:13:04 You were claiming you were impartial in the text chain while also ordering writing utensils. I'm not having none of this impartial stuff. He did. He was on Amazon buying pencils. You know why? Because I was trying to facilitate the bet. I don't care who wins. You absolutely care.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I don't care who loses. All I care about is that it's fair. I feel as though the gentlemanly friendship that we had, the three of us, over all these years, over a decade, is crumbling away due to the erosion of dishonor. And it's sad to see. I don't think there's any crumbling at all. I think it's just, you know, we're figuring out where the truth is. I feel one way, you feel another. This is some Trump-level gaslighting here.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I feel like I gave... I'm not the one trying to push for red hats. I gave some pretty solid evidence, in my opinion. As someone who's definitely not impartial, I feel like the evidence was, you know, the nail in the coffin for Mr. Panton and his legal representation. You presented something.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I don't know what I'd call it, but I will agree you presented a thing. This is going to get expensive. It's going to get lengthy. But it could end with just a lovely consumed pencil. No, I don't think it needs to be either of those. How about next episode? We'll discuss this. We'll go further.
Starting point is 00:14:25 You can collect whatever evidence you want. I got my legal team. We can just, we'll come to whatever our judge decides, I will support because I'm an honorable man. What you've caused here is that the audience are now listening to evidence in a legal trial. Andrew, first off, I think that you're right. Whatever the judge decides, we should all live with.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And I'd like to thank you for the show of faith. No, not you. And you believing in me. Definitely not you. I promise that I will weigh both sides. Nope, not you. With the impartiality. Lady Justice is blind.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I have seen statues. She wears a blindfold. I would rather have Gavin be the judge than you. And my scale of impartial. But if there's anyone who would rather have me be wrong, it's Jeff. Jeff loves it when I'm wrong. He would be potentially unimpartial going the other way.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I'll be honest with you, Andrew. I'm still mad at him about the tattoo suit thing, and that was over a decade ago. You can't assume that I... It is undeniably better content if I were to eat the writing utensil than if I didn't. And as someone who understands good content, you are impartial. You would absolutely want me to consume the writing utensil on the show. Did you just admit that you're deliberately trying to remove content from our podcast?
Starting point is 00:15:47 No, not at all. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the scenario that was described by you is something that, if it were to happen, would be good content. How about instead of going through this big legal ordeal, we just switch your little forfeit of the bet to something different? For example, setting off your fire extinguisher.
Starting point is 00:16:08 That sounds like someone who thinks they'll lose because they know they're in the wrong. So no, I don't think I need to compromise at all. I'm trying to give you an easy out. I'm trying to open a new door for you here. I don't need any other doors. A door of honor.
Starting point is 00:16:18 The door of truth and honor is very easy to go through. I'm already there. I got my hand on the knob. We're just securing the details. Andrew, you're going to have to go through a door or you're going to go through. I'm already there. I got my hand on the knob. We're just securing the details. Andrew, you're going to have to go through a door or you're going to eat one. It says you got two options, man.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I did talk about doors. Yeah. I admit to that. Yeah. That's how this whole thing started, isn't it? Yeah, you told me you'd eat a door. I thought it was the funniest thing I'd ever heard. Nah, I never said I'd eat a writing utensil.
Starting point is 00:16:44 But I'm ready. I'll take both of you on. You do whatever resources you need. I feel very secure in my defense. All right, all right, motherfucker. How do you want this to go down next week, then? Next Thursday, we're going to record. Yeah, I think we both compile what we want to compile,
Starting point is 00:16:58 what we feel is evidence, and then we have a fake case. We have a little case here. Fake? Well, it's not like we're not a real judge. And then who? And then, okay, so I'm, you know what? I did my I tried. I tried my
Starting point is 00:17:12 hardest to be impartial and to be fair, and unfortunately, only Gavin was an adult, which is a weird thing to even say. I don't like saying Gavin an adult in the same sentence, but I'm having to because Andrew is being so unreasonable that I guess I'm
Starting point is 00:17:28 unhonorable. Sure. I don't know if that's a word, but dishonorable. I'm saying I'm saying I was being honorable. I was correcting you. You said a wrong statement. I was being honored. We'll bring it up in a suit because I'm on Gavin's side now. God damn it. I've been pulled into the fray. I didn't want to be, but here we are. Eric,
Starting point is 00:17:44 you got to be our judge uh uh okay yeah i can judge this i think do you feel like you are impartial to and it's and it's andrew's standards of being impartial i think i am because originally when we did this i was on somebody's side then i changed sides but now i'm really waffling on how I feel about this whole thing. So I'm curious about what evidence is going to be coming my way. As an impartial judge, Eric, potentially, what did you think of my evidence
Starting point is 00:18:13 that I brought today? You can't ask the judge to review evidence. This is ridiculous. It's not what the judge does. Yeah, but not now. I'm not ready for this discussion yet. The case is next week. Okay. So we should leave this where it stands today.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I agree. And we'll resume. Next week, we will have our decision. We'll discuss your whatever legal term. I got way too excited when my law team said, never mind. Quit pro quo. I'm suddenly feeling better about going against your lord team.
Starting point is 00:18:47 So this is Pantin v. Ramfrey. Yes. 2020. Why don't we take this to Judy? Forget the foot rub. Why don't we do this for real? No. She seems very serious.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I don't think she'd enjoy this. Do you think someday this will be in a law book? It'll set precedent and it'll be known as the Panton defense? It should. I don't see any way I lose this. I bet we should get Judy to join the Discord or something. You think so? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I should get her opinion. I'll see if anyone knows someone. I like this. We're set. Next week. This is exciting. So we're having a trial next week. Next week. F*** face goes to trial. Face goes to court. I'll be honest. I thought the first legal issue we'd encounter would be the pretend store.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yeah, that's what I thought you were going to bring up. Yeah, I didn't expect the first and the second legal issue we encountered to be us. Amongst the hosts. This store went pretty well. People seem to like that store yeah well it lit a fire under this under the rt store's ass because they they uh contacted me about uh suddenly very interested in the uh russian face uh hat shirt so it actually worked like they're actually gonna make the hat now they can't mind i don't know i don't know i don't want to get ahead of ourselves
Starting point is 00:20:00 but because they're aware of it despite all the times we've told them about it. Oh, there's no way they're not aware of it. I did hear rumblings that the original response by our store team was that it was lukewarm. So now I'm glad that it's slightly hotter. Well, you know, the audience has lit a fire. As you do. Thanks,
Starting point is 00:20:20 audience. Thank you for showing your demand, audience. Do we hear anything else internally in the company? Are we good? Do I need to worry about the lawsuit? Let's worry. I tell you what, buddy, let's worry about one lawsuit at a time. Right now, we're focused on you eating a pencil. I really face myself with that website, too, by the way. I should have seen it coming. We talked about this. So this is I felt especially dumb that I didn't consider this as an issue at all but so the site the podcast came out people very excited about the sites I got a lot of attention and
Starting point is 00:20:51 Next thing I know my emails are going off constantly. I'm getting constant notifications and I knew this but I never considered the fact that Every form of contact page or if you use the chat on that site would lead to my personal email I have gotten over 500 emails in the last day flooded flooded with not the roosterteeth store customer requests that's some great engagement it is I mean it's wonderful engagement but not necessarily what you want in your personal email. Dude, some of these are coming in like minutes apart.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Wow! Yeah. It's a lot, and it went on all day. You really f*** faced your inbox. I did. You did a good job. It was terrible. Oh man, that's f***ing awesome. Are you responding to everyone?
Starting point is 00:21:40 No. I can't do that again. I don't want to go to Twitter jail or email. Is there an email jail? I don't want to find out. I've been in Xbox jail and I've been in Twitter jail. It's enough for me. You've been arrested by the major domo. Exactly. That's a pretty good f***ing facing there, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Yeah, no, it's not the only one I did this week either. I really, this is a good f***ing face week for myself. I made some other errors. Jeff, I don't know if you talked to Gavin about this, but Jeff is full
Starting point is 00:22:11 in the Garfield game now. He came to my turf. Jeff has entered my turf. He's come to my corner. I got some things to say about Garfield. Fuck Garfield. Fuck Garfield. Fuck Garfield. Fuck
Starting point is 00:22:26 that game. That game's a piece of shit. That is not a kids game. That is a fucking evil brutal piece of shit game. The rubber banding in that game is ridiculous. And that game fucking cheats. And the pizza cup can suck my pizza cock.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I fucking, I hate it. It fucking cheats every fucking time. And to get the, Gavin, here's the fucking problem with the game, right? You can do time trials on every fucking lap. That's fine, or on every course.
Starting point is 00:22:52 That's fine. There's like 16 courses, I think. Or 12, 16? Whatever. But you can like bullshit level your car and your character up. It's basically like, this car goes fast,
Starting point is 00:23:05 but has shitty steering. This car has good brakes, but shitty speed, right? But there is, this character is a douchebag, and this character, but they all have, it all evens out. But then they offer these spoilers that you can unlock, and the spoilers do give a little bit of a boost, like above the normal, and you can't win, you can't set any world records without those fucking spoilers, I'll tell you that right now. However, a spoiler you have to come in you have to get gold in a cup a specific cup for the one i want the pizza cup now it's not just it's not just coming in gold gold is like winning the circuit right you know it's four races you come out on top uh over the course of four races no the unspoken rule is you have to come in first on every race,
Starting point is 00:23:46 one, two, three, four in a row to unlock this fucking spoiler. And that is bullshit. It's not that hard. It is. It's really easy. I'm not good at racing games. I'm not good at games. So you're saying you basically,
Starting point is 00:24:01 you can't even get the spoiler that would give you a chance to tackle Andrews Times. That is exactly what I'm saying. I think that I could beat one of Andrews Times if I didn't have to beat the game trying to cheat against me for four straight matches. Because it's a kart racer, right, dude? So there's fucking power-ups. There's pillows that will put you to sleep. There are fucking aliens that will abduct your car right at the finish line.
Starting point is 00:24:33 It is fucking nonsense. It's a car racer for kids. It's fun. It's not for kids. It is. It's a great kids game. It's a really well-made game. That game's like thunderdome
Starting point is 00:24:45 it's brutal and i don't like it i i i'm not done done with it yet i haven't given up on it completely we'll see if i get lucky i try i try a couple times a day just to see you know see how many races i can get into on the fucking pizza cup before i before the game cheats and fucking ruins my day what course does do you struggle on Are you just kind of all over the place? All over the place, man. All over the place. I've gotten first on three of the four court courses,
Starting point is 00:25:10 but, uh, only once in one go through. Well, I know you, Jeff, and I'd heard you're complaining a lot. You're constantly whining about your inability to win in the pizza cup.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yes. And I didn't, I had memory, like I didn't struggle with that at all. I had no problem with it. I talked to other people that struggle with it. I thought there have been
Starting point is 00:25:28 some updates to this game. Maybe it's harder than it used to be. So I made a new Xbox account to start over. I wanted a fresh start. And because I'm such a good friend, I'm such an honorable guy,
Starting point is 00:25:41 as I've been saying this whole time, I named my second account after you is what I did. And I loaded into that pizza cup. I thought I'm going to start at the 100, the medium difficulty, then go hard. Won the first three races, realized I was on hard. I didn't even know it. That's how easy it is.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I was on hard the whole time. Beat the pizza cup. First try. No problem. Then thought, you know what jeff is never going to be able to do this he doesn't have the skill he doesn't have the talent he doesn't have the natural lasagna gene in him like i have i'm gonna be a good friend i'm gonna get fake jeff on this leaderboard i'm gonna get him nice and number two so he can feel good about himself but he's never
Starting point is 00:26:22 he's never gonna hit the top. Because it's not in him. I don't need to worry about that. Except then the unexpected happened, and I beat my own time by accident, so Fake Jeff is currently number one on Play Misty for me. I did it! I did it, baby! I'm the best!
Starting point is 00:26:43 I did that on Saturday. I played the best! I did that on Saturday. I played all weekend. I can't beat that time. I am stuck in second place because I beat myself as fake Jeff. I like that you try to create these competitions. Either no one shows up for them because they don't care,
Starting point is 00:27:00 or they're literally not good enough, so you play as them, and you beat yourself as them. Gavin, I guarantee you I could beat him on a time trial. A time trial, it's just racing. It's just you versus the course. Any track, anywhere, any day. But to be fair, look at those times.
Starting point is 00:27:17 It's the cart shit that kills you. He's got like seven seconds now on the next person. I know what those times are. I've competed. I understand how much. I've not. The closest I came was within like 23 seconds of one of his times. And that's because I can't get that goddamn spoiler.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I don't think that matters. But you did it. Now I'm stuck in seconds. I'm playing against myself. Yay, I did it. Are you going to go try and get your number one time back? Or could you sit there knowing that it's actually you who's number one right now? No, I can't live with that.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I need my name up there and that number one with the gold. So I'm going to keep at it. Everyone's looking at Jeff's name now. No one's looking at you anymore. Yeah, it's a sad sight. Can't have it. Speaking of bets, we kind of made a bet last week, Gavin, didn't we? We're doing the time thing, right?
Starting point is 00:28:07 I think we kind of left that open. Yeah. Do you feel good about that still, or did you actually try and now you've realized it was a mistake? No, no, no. What I did was is that, you know, it's a long game. I'm going to just announce that I have a better time than you. This is what I think we should do. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I'm going to chime in because we had some discussion about this, but i kind of zoned out uh last time so i missed it so maybe i'm repeating what we said i think once you issue that time how many hours 16 right yeah let's knock it to 12 because it's a better number okay go down to 12 once you announce the time it can only be one time but once you announce that time i have 12 hours to beat it you have 12 hours to respond if i do and we just go back and forth until it's over okay uh i beat one of your times which one did you beat oh fuck wait what time is it okay what time i didn't i didn't really i just wanted to freak you out. I was very nervous. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:29:07 But that's how it's going to go. It's going to be one week in the future when I do that. I'm thrilled for it. Gav, just as an aside, how do you feel entering into a new bet with Andrew in the middle of him taking you to court for your last bet? I'm not taking him. I'm defending myself. If anything, he him taking you to court for your last bet. I'm not taking him. I'm defending myself. If anything, he's taking me to court.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Look, you know, even if we may be entangled in a giant legal battle internally, I feel like the show must go on, you know? Yeah, no, I appreciate that you're a professional, but do you have any confidence that when you win this bet, like you won the last one, he'll pay up? No, actually, because apparently evidence means nothing, and you could just hire three dipshits and a lawyer to write some crap down. But, you know, I'm just going to have to give him
Starting point is 00:29:55 a second chance on the whole honor thing. See if he can redeem himself. I'm a very honorable guy. Evidence is an evidence. Till it's steamed, it's evidence. Can we get a three dipshits and a lawyer legal firm t-shirt man i would love business cards i feel like maybe the next letter will be slightly more aggressive now i came to terms with the other thing that was an area we left off
Starting point is 00:30:19 you had your idea for your bet i don't remember what even your idea was but i didn't have anything for if i won the bet i have my bet so you're saying if if you beat it within 12 hours i then get a 12 hour you then it bounces back to you it becomes a volley at that point until whoever is stuck with it loses got it okay got it i mean that sounds fair that sounds fair and what is what happens if i lose this bet? Is there any point in us even discussing anything? No, I think there's definitely a point. We didn't come to terms last time.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I know what I want. And is this you I'm talking to now? Is this you, Andrew Panton? This is Andrew Panton talking very clearly. Andrew Panton from Vancouver Island, Canada? Yep. Okay. And what do you want in return for my losing of this challenge?
Starting point is 00:31:07 If I win, I don't remember what you said last time, but if I win, you have to eat a stick of gum of my choice, has to stay in your mouth for at least a minute, at least 10 shoes. I can pick any gum I want, though. Long as I don't tamper with it. Don't tamper. At least, I don't understand. What did you just, whatper. At least, I don't, what did you just, what?
Starting point is 00:31:26 I'm saying, I'm trying to cover all my angles here, because, like, if I say you need to eat a stick of gum, you could just put it in your mouth, bite it, and then, like, spit it out, and then it's over. So is the gum's going to be, like, disgusting or spicy or something? I'm just, I get to pick a piece of gum of my choice. 60 seconds in your mouth. Minimum 10 shoes.
Starting point is 00:31:45 But it can't be used. No, it can't be used. Okay. Unused. No. That's fucking gross. I didn't even consider that. That'd be terrible.
Starting point is 00:31:54 No used gum. It'd be a piece of gum nobody's had in their mouth before. Nobody's tampered with in any way. Out of the package, your gum. I need to do some pre-research. I'm just going to Google. Okay. Worst gum flavor. Andrew, can I ask a of the package, your gum. I need to do some pre-research. I'm just gonna Google, okay, worst gum flavor. Andrew, can I ask a question? Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:32:10 How old is this gum? I'd see any stick. I can pick a stick of gum. Oh, there's blue cheese gum? Oh, you could really make me have some filth. Could it be like a piece of gum stuck to like a Gary Carter 1981 baseball card from like a pack of Fleer
Starting point is 00:32:27 that's just been stuck in the pack for 35 years? I'm just arguing for any piece of gum. Can we have like a date since manufacture sort of deal? What do you mean by that? I just don't want to eat gum that's over like a decade old. Oh, no. I'm not comfortable giving those terms. I want to open up all my options.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Starting to learn more about... Yeah. Well, I could go spicy, as you said. Blue cheese gum sounds great. I will say, I guess I'll agree to this, but I don't want to eat any cinnamon-flavored gum. Hey, on the bright side, Gad, if you lose... I'm such a nice guy, I'll agree to that.
Starting point is 00:33:03 If you lose, you can always pretend you didn't do it. Yeah. You can pretend like you're not you right now. No. Oh, I didn't make it to F*** Face 16 recording. I was away. Who would do this? This is very dishonorable, what you're suggesting, Geoff.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I'm just blown away that you're committing some of these statements about honor to tape after we've taped all the other stuff. I don't know what you mean. I'm a very honorable, respectful, kind person. I think we all would agree to this. Do you not agree to that? I feel like that's a pretty clear statement. So if I win, am I also picking gum?
Starting point is 00:33:40 No, whatever you want. I think you had an idea last week. I don't remember what that was, but whatever you want to go with. I'm open to hear your ideas. Was it that you eat a pencil? I don't know. I mean, there have been discussions about writing utensils.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I don't remember if it was applied to that. You could have got out of this in a much easier way, by the way, if you'd have just said that, you know, you can make a pencil out of cake and just eat it. You could have made this so simple, but you went down this legal battle route and i think you've backed yourself into a corner
Starting point is 00:34:08 now no i've i think you know we're just we're gonna figure out what happens with this writing utensil and if i have to eat one then i will because i'm a man of all right okay i'll eat gum you eat pencil how about that uh like uh the sure yes sorry sorry i'll eat gum, you eat pencil. How about that? Like, sure. Yes. Sorry, sorry. I'll eat gum, you eat writing utensil. Yep, I'll agree to that. No problem.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Hey, do you want to do a digital handshake? Okay, yeah. I think they always work. So let's do one of those. Got it. Okay. Yep. That felt good.
Starting point is 00:34:40 That was it, that was it. Okay. It's official. Now, this has nothing to do with the previous pencil bet. I don't know what you're talking about. No, this is a separate future legal issue. What is a pencil? Oh, Billy.
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Starting point is 00:38:55 Have you f***faced yourself any in the last week? I don't know, Jeff, because in my notes for f***face, I've written down bog roll folders, but I don't remember what that is. So if anyone has any ideas on what I was thinking or talking about there,
Starting point is 00:39:13 please let me know. Bog roll? Bog roll is like toilet roll. Bog roll is like a toilet paper. It's British for toilet paper. Oh. How do you not know what that is? That, that's so specific. It's a weird thing to... I feel like Jeff and I both suffer from, you know, past versions of ourselves leaving crappy notes.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Well, when would you have left that note? Like, what is the time frame typically on a note? This was left for me on the 31st of August. So four days ago. Three days ago. Okay. And it's underneath. No double anus. Swapped days ago, three days ago. Okay. And it's underneath no double anus,
Starting point is 00:39:48 swapped bike brakes, hashtag Jeff lies about driver's license price. Oh, I told you one time that it cost $1,000 to get a driver's license in America and I had you convinced
Starting point is 00:40:01 for a long time back when $1,000 was a scary amount of money to you and you were trying to figure out how the fuck you would pay for it. I had you convinced for a long time back when $1,000 was a scary amount of money to you and you were trying to figure out how the fuck you would pay for it. I think you said it was like $3,000 to get a driver's license. Maybe I did, maybe I did. And then I just didn't go.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I was reading all the driving books when I got to America and then I never went. And now I've lived here for eight years and I don't have a driver's license. I will say that was kind of a fuck face in though, because you lived with me most of those early years and I definitely intentionally scared you away. And I don't think, you know, Gab, I don't think we've ever talked about this before on a podcast, maybe years ago, but I don't think so that I do think I, I should take partial credit for you not having a driver's license because I let that go for a long time.
Starting point is 00:40:46 You didn't tell me that you lied about it until like eight months later. Yeah. And I'd already thought like. I don't think I told you about it. I think Becca or somebody was like, what the fuck are you talking about? No, here's what happened. You lied about that. And then like eight months later, you told me, hey, I lied to you about something.
Starting point is 00:41:04 You didn't tell me what it was so i was like wracking my brain i was like when and you're like since the day you moved here and today i told you a major lie and i think it was actually to get back at me for the freaking tattoo suit thing it was but it didn't it didn't work i still am mad about it that was that it turned out to be a face on you but i remember thinking like oh you know i've i've just moved countries i don't have any stuff here i don't have any credit it's so hard to buy things so i need to like save up cash and i was just like yeah i guess i'll just wait until i get my license because i live i ride with jeff sometimes so i probably bought other you know essentials and then i just never got a driver's license i never realized i faced
Starting point is 00:41:47 myself until right now that was yeah you thought you were screwing me over you screwed you and everyone else over i'm sorry you faced like half of austin i did i did that's oh man i feel like it's still gavin's facing because he didn't do any research. He didn't look into it at all. It's just like that. I don't imagine. My research was talking to a friend that I trusted and that was my first mistake. You trusted Jeff? Yeah, kind of. We were talking about other serious stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:15 He was telling me all this valuable information like 401k, do it as early as possible. Do it as young as possible. Get retirement going now today and i was like oh god and then you're like driving's really expensive here though how much does it actually cost to take a driving test here i have no fucking clue 50 bucks i don't know it's not it's a low amount like i don't Eric, do you know? Have you gotten a driver's test recently?
Starting point is 00:42:45 It's like, it's got to be less than $100. Yeah, it's got to be pretty cheap. But no, I haven't gotten a driver's test recently. But it's not $3,000. Did you assume that that was a one-time thing for like the test? Like, you know, you can fail the test. Could you imagine failing a $3,000 driving test? That's why it's such a big deal.
Starting point is 00:43:04 To then have to do it again. I don't know. Looking back on it, I'm an idiot for believing it. But it was just like information overload. Like we were talking about all the differences between our country. $25? Are you serious? It's $25?
Starting point is 00:43:15 If you're between the ages of 15 and 18, the cost is $16. If you're 18 to 85, the cost is $25. Why is it more for me? Because you're an idiot 85 the cost is 25 why is it more for me because you're an idiot well if you wait if you wait until you're over 85 it is nine dollars oh there you go oh my god you need to wait you need to wait until you're past that age first day you're passed you take that test are we talking written did you at least do the written test or is this just to do the writing test it was so off-putting i didn't do anything further in my driving endeavor but you're aware there are multiple tests right yeah yeah yeah so do you think one cost for all of them or like each time like 3 000 for written 3 000 for driving i assumed
Starting point is 00:44:02 it was 3 000 for000 for the practical license. Oh, okay. Yeah. I gotta say, I realized that I unintentionally fucked myself into making myself drive you around town for years still, honestly. I mean, we're in a pandemic, so we're not seeing each other, but if we were, I'd still be driving your dumb ass around. But I have to say, and that was back in my drinking days so i don't
Starting point is 00:44:26 have the best memory of it but coming to you and telling you that i've been lying to you about something major for eight months is a really funny cool thing to do and i'm very proud that i did that that's fucking cool and it just came out of nowhere you're just like i guess you remembered that lie and you were just like i've lied to you and i was honestly for months i was just racking my brain i was like what what's all this stuff that and i was like is it something small and you were like no no it's major man that reminds fuck that's awesome i didn't fuck myself this week uh face myself i didn't fuck myself or face myself this week but i but i fucking almost did with a face from 32 years ago 33 years ago what happened yeah well when i was like nine or ten
Starting point is 00:45:17 i made a blow dart out of a pencil and some nails and it was uh it was uh just i was just fucking around in the bathroom and i was shooting nails out of the blow dart gun at the way i was trying to break the mirror in my fucking house i don't know why i'm just trying to break the bathroom mirror by shooting nails did we transition to to what is this i'm going what age are you I'm like 10 9 or 10 okay you're still kidding for a moment I thought we had now transitioned to present day
Starting point is 00:45:48 you still had the blow dart and you're still trying to break the mirror I've been trying for 30 years I can't do it it's one of those
Starting point is 00:45:55 things where it's like you realize like I would have gotten in so much fucking trouble I did get in so much trouble but I would have gotten in so much different trouble if I
Starting point is 00:46:02 had shattered a bathroom mirror I don't know why that made sense to me at the time but anyway i was trying to do it and in the process of doing it the i had a misfire and i had the and the nail was like kind of hanging out the edge of the blow dart and so i tried to suck it back up to blow it again oh yeah so what I did was I inhaled a nail and it was stuck in my throat like poking into the side of my my fucking throat
Starting point is 00:46:31 and so I and every time I tried to swallow or every time I tried to swallow I could feel the nail like digging into my the inside of my like fucking windpipe and it was terrifying and painful in a way that I hope you don't have to feel. So I went to my mom and I was like, I ate a nail, you know, and she's like, don't swallow.
Starting point is 00:46:54 What are you doing? And I'm like, it hurts to swallow. It's stabbing me, you know, and she's like, oh my God, oh my God, don't lay down. And so like she put me in the back of the car and she made me lay down and we went straight to the emergency room and they had, they got, I had to get x-rays of my fucking chest and my everything and sure enough there was a nail wedged in my throat and they like i don't remember i i'm a little hazy on this part but they like shook me or something anyway they got the nail out of my throat oh yeah the old nail shake everyone's favorite doctor menu they got the nail out of my throat. Oh yeah, the old nail shake. Everyone's favorite doctor maneuver. They got the nail out of my throat somehow, and I
Starting point is 00:47:26 could finally breathe again. And then it was just in me. And my mom was like, what the fuck do we do now? And the doctor goes, it'll probably come out in the next few days in his stool. If it doesn't, we'll probably know in another way.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Oh. And she goes, so what do we do? And he goes, just like go about your day, live normally. And then every time he takes a shit, look through it, I guess, until you see the nail come out and then you'll know you're good. Well, I so for like a week after that or maybe a little bit longer, I would have to like investigate my poop every time I pooped to see if there was a nail sticking out of it. And there never was. Fast forward to last week, I had to get an MRI. And an MRI. What does the M stand for in MRI, Jeff? It stands for magnet or magnetic,
Starting point is 00:48:18 where they stick you in, looks like a 70s sci-fi machine, kind of like a CAT scan. And then it whirls around in a circle all around you in a really close space, and you can't move one muscle for 30 minutes while it takes a magnetic image of your, I don't know exactly. They explained it. It sounded like science class.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I was bored. But the problem is it's highly magnetized. So if you have any old fillings or if you have any metal in your head or uh uh that it can pull it out and you know go through you and into the it can fucking it could wreck you it could i imagine you would explode uh like in a cartoon um and so they they go through all the things you're like and i like, and it was a big deal because I have that reconstructed jaw, and I have like 22 screws in my mouth, and I have some metal lattice work
Starting point is 00:49:09 and stuff. And there was a lot of debate over whether the screws are definitely titanium, but whether the lattice work would have some sort of other metal components because I got it done in the 90s, and it was the dark ages in the nineties. And there can't guarantee that there wasn't some other kinds of metal in the anyway. So, uh, they gave me like a little ball to squeeze. And he was like,
Starting point is 00:49:31 the second you feel your face pulling up, squeeze that ball. And hopefully we'll stop it in time before you explode. And so I'm laying there and I'm, I'm just like feeling my teeth and feeling my face and just like waiting for anything to feel magnetic. And then it hit me. I hadn't thought about it for 20 years there might be a fucking missile in my stomach still and then i might just be laying here and then suddenly i feel like a like a gurgle
Starting point is 00:49:57 and then a 30 year old nail shoots through my stomach through my and out and out my belly button and into the thing and then I just fucking deflate like a balloon. And so I had to lay in there for 40 minutes while I just was perfectly still and just tried to feel if the nail was moving around in my stomach.
Starting point is 00:50:20 And it didn't. I must have shit that nail out a long time ago. But I didn't know and I had forgotten about it until I was 10 minutes into that MRI. I must have shit that nail out a long time ago. But I didn't know, and I had forgotten about it until I was 10 minutes into that MRI. And I'm just going to say I'm happy to be here with you right now. The interview being in the machine as it's spinning. Like, oh, shit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I had to fill out so much paperwork, Gavin, about anything that could possibly be in me. I called my mom. I was like, what about this? What about this? No, the whole deal. I was super paranoid about it. I took off everything. Then I just slipped my mind until I was laying in there with my thoughts
Starting point is 00:50:56 trying to feel my fillings. That means she also forgot about the nail. Yeah, well. That's insane. I'm just her only child. Why would she remember? I like that you potentially shat a nail without feeling it. I must have, because it didn't come out this time. How big was the nail? I want to say it was like an inch and a half long.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Okay. Two inches long, maybe? Not awful. Like, maybe from your knuckle to the top of your finger, you know? Your first, you know? Like, not your baby knuckle, but like your real, like, punch, you real like punch you know yeah two inches anyway but i'm happy to say i'm alive and uh and i survived and another fun thing about it uh this is where my body faced me on the other end i got the results of the mri you know because i thought i because my shoulder
Starting point is 00:51:39 doesn't work anymore and because i'm yeah i'm left-handed and it's my left side and i can only lift like three pounds and I'm useless as a human being. Turns out I didn't fuck up my rotator cuff. I just have a whole bunch of old people arthritis. You've got arthritis? Arthritis in my shoulder and my chest.
Starting point is 00:51:58 A good case of arthritis as the doctor said, or the orthopedist said. He said, wow, you got yourself a hefty case of arthritis there for a young guy like you. I like that whenever you do an injury or you have a condition, it's always to its maximum extent. Like when you ripped your thumb tendon open so much
Starting point is 00:52:18 that the doctor was like, oh, no, no. It's so much worse than these two things that could have happened. He goes, there's two ways to cut your tendon. You can cut it long ways across the tendon, like down the length of it, which is good because it's easier for us to sew it back together. Or you can sever it in half, right? Where we have to reconnect it like, you know, like you cut a pencil in half. Like, say you were going to eat a pencil.
Starting point is 00:52:42 You didn't want to eat a long pencil. You'd cut it in half, right? And I go, which way did I cut my finger? Did I cut my tendon? And he goes, oh, no. No, no. No, son. He called me son.
Starting point is 00:52:53 He goes, son, yours is so much worse than that. And I go, there's only two ways. How can it be worse? And he goes, yours is shredded. He goes, yours is more mangled than cut. And that's why my thumb doesn't work totally. But yeah, anyway.
Starting point is 00:53:11 So it was posture related. You were right in your diagnosis. Your posture, that's what triggered the whole shoulder thing, right? Yeah. The way you were changing your sitting flared it up? Flared it up, yeah. What a twist that is. What a twist, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:25 This is old age for you. This is what's going to happen to you guys. I think we've learned a lot today. We've learned a lot. We never figured out what bog roll folders meant, but maybe in future that will come back to me. Do you think you were trying to fold toilet paper, or were you keeping a folder of information about toilet paper?
Starting point is 00:53:41 I just don't know. I just don't know, Jeff. It should be coming back to me, but it's not. Maybe it's because I'm in, I'm now in a tense legal case. Maybe. Do you ever get,
Starting point is 00:53:51 do you ever get your house cleaned sometimes and then they'll like, they, or go to a hotel where they fold the toilet paper into like a seashell or something? Do you think maybe you were thinking of like cute fancy shapes that they turn toilet paper into?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Yeah, I've definitely seen it folded into a point, but I don't know why that would have anything to do with the face. I'll sit on it. I'll sit on it for a week. Fair enough. Fair enough. If you while you're doing that. Also, if you could figure out what the greatest Minecraft let's play of all time is, I'd appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:54:15 OK. Yeah, we'll do. That's the one I can't remember. Andrew, I'm excited. I'm excited for you to eat this pencil i'm not going to be eating any writing utensils it sounds like you there's a good chance you're going to eat two next week is the the face uh trial number one first of many by the sounds of it no i think we only need one i think we're good one i mean unless you need more time i feel very confident in my i'm not talking about for this one case i'm just just going to say, if you're
Starting point is 00:54:45 going to jeb up these bets in future, we're going to have several more. I would never do this. What you're accusing me of is something I never even consider. Also, Andrew, we need to get a hold on the collecting thing. I've been just buying cards randomly, and I spent
Starting point is 00:55:01 about $800 this week on basketball cards. What are you doing? I can't be doing it anymore. What are you doing? And I can't be doing it anymore. What are you doing? I gotta have a face focus because I've been... What are you doing? Dude, I've been... It's like one third
Starting point is 00:55:12 of a driver's license. I've been buying... I've been buying... I've been sitting at home going crazy buying packs of fucking Panini Prism basketball cards, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I got two Tatum rookies yesterday. You didn't tell me. Yeah, well... You told me what happened. I don't talk to you because of the... Yeah, I got two Tatum rookies yesterday. You didn't tell me. Yeah, well. You told me what happened. I don't talk to you because of the... Yeah, I got two. I was going to send one to you, maybe.
Starting point is 00:55:30 There, I've seen them go for 150, and I've seen them go for like 600, so I was thinking about getting them graded. Anyway, you need to help me figure... We need to figure out a focus for me to focus this obsession with cards, because otherwise I'm going to go broke. I'm going to go broke real fast.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I just bought $600 worth of fucking it's 2016-2017 cards trying to chase Jamal Murray rookie cards and I this is not healthy I need to we I need to I need to focus this and and like towards a bussy or uh like oh my god bussy we got bussy I got bussy should we talk about our idea before we break I know uh Eric wants to go but should we talk about our idea with gavin for the the cards we wanted to collect like the mini collection we were going to do and how dark that went real fast well i mean i think we could talk about it we don't necessarily need to touch on the darkness but if you want to go all the way i mean we could we andrew and i were talking the other day, Gavin, about, you know, we got this guy Bussey. I think Tom Martin is his name.
Starting point is 00:56:27 The guy who was traded for a bus. Traded for a bus. I have his rookie card right here in front of me. Or his only card, yeah. And Andrew started looking up other people. There was a guy who was traded for, what was it, like a box of used baseballs? Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:43 He was traded for a box of used baseballs yes he was traded for a box of used baseballs and i read the story behind it is amazing the photographer didn't want him to do that like yeah i guess he'd taken so many minor league cards he wanted to do something original and the guy was very serious and so the only way he could convince the photographer to take the picture is he had every single other player on his team agree they would not sign their rights for the cards to be made unless he took that photo. And so then he was like, oh, fuck, okay, we'll do it.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And so he crazy glued a baseball to his nuts on the pants and was starting to fall off as he was taking the photo. So he's just frantically yelling at the guy to take the picture. And he was very happy. It's a great card.
Starting point is 00:57:21 It's a great card. I want that card. There was a guy who was traded, a basketball guy who was traded for, I think he was traded to the Celtics or from the Celtics preseason so that they wouldn't have to, like the trade was,
Starting point is 00:57:36 we'll trade you this player if you agree to play two of the preseason games for us so we don't have to play them. Was that what it was? I interpreted it as like adding preseason games. Oh, adding preseason games? That's how I interpreted it. I thought it was like,
Starting point is 00:57:49 we don't want to play these two preseason games, so if you'll agree to play them, we'll take this player. And then there was the one that was fucking dark. There was a guy who was traded for 10 used bats or 10 baseball bats. Was it 10? I think it was 10.
Starting point is 00:58:01 It was something like that, yeah. That's tragic. Well, it became tragic tragic that wasn't the dark part that's not the dark part it was he was in the minor leagues and he uh he got traded for these baseball bats and uh unfortunately i think it was he got traded to a canadian team right but then he had a felony or something and so they wouldn't let him cross over from the US into Canada so he couldn't join the team and so then they
Starting point is 00:58:30 were kind of stuck so then they tried to reverse the trade but they didn't want him so then the Canadian team since they couldn't bring him into Canada to play for them they didn't know what to do so they traded him to another team for I think 10 or 20 baseball bats right which is very funny.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Except then the next game, when he went to the new team, they started playing the Batman theme every time he played. I think he was a pitcher. And it got into his head. They started calling him Batman and Batboy. And it got into his head. And the audience started to heckle him every time he would play. And even I read the umpires heckled him and he washed out of baseball like two weeks later
Starting point is 00:59:09 and then he got into heavy drugs and died of an overdose. That is way darker than the story you told me. You left the information I got. None of that was there. You edited a lot. So what was your dark version? I did some additional reading. His dark version was that just the guy played baseball
Starting point is 00:59:26 and then he partied one night and things got out of hand and he tragically died. I had no concept of any of the other stuff. I cut out the part where he washed out of baseball and stuff. Yeah, I was still reading about it when I was talking to you about it. Really sad story. He died on election day, I think 2016, 2018, 2016. Woof.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Yeah. That's a woof. That's a woof. It's sad. It's funny to think of getting traded for some baseballs or a bus or whatever, but then you hear the dark side of what it's like to be traded and how it affects you, and it's suddenly not as funny. Is Coolio okay?
Starting point is 00:59:59 I think he's fine. I think he's doing just fine. Do we have more Instagram followers than Coolio yet? I don't think we're anywhere close. I think we have 2,000 or 3,000. But that's a good point. You should follow us, F*** Face Pod, on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I think we put up our faces, the faces you and I drew. I think today we're putting up Andrew's face, the one that he drew. Not that anybody gives a shit. The original face. Because it's way, way, way too late.
Starting point is 01:00:24 It can't be the original face if it's the third one presented. gives a shit original face because it's way way way too late it can't be the original face if it's the third one presented it is the original face you're trying to copy my face yeah because i had the original face and why did you draw your face if my face nope it may have been slightly more impressive if you pulled out an actual original from like back in the day when when you learned about, but just draw it a new one. That wasn't original. I don't have anything from back then. I don't,
Starting point is 01:00:49 I couldn't do that, but you wouldn't have your face if it wasn't for my face. So I have the original face. You know what I was thinking? I was thinking this is kind of, is it the face and face? Is this the official face? Andrew's drawing.
Starting point is 01:01:07 That's actually an interesting question. We don't have to answer it right now but it's something to think about i'd love to hear what the audience thinks too yeah it might be technically we should make a maybe we should make an andrew face shirt put it on like a like a pocket tee or something i think eric is on his third copy and paste for uh the end of the podcast so oh right right right uh yeah uh well i guess he's the announcer not the ender so i'll do it uh hey this has been another episode of face i believe it was episode 16 but i can never keep that straight thank you for listening uh it would be really cool if you rate us five stars on whatever podcast platform you use and subscribe to us if you haven't already and please please
Starting point is 01:01:44 please tell your friends. Rooster Teeth as a company started out of, completely out of word of mouth. That's kind of the way we do things. And so if face is going to take over the world and shit on the mouth of all other podcasters, then think of us at the top of the pyramid, just like in our podcast turds
Starting point is 01:02:04 rolling downhill into the mouths of like the Joe Rogans and the Mark Maron's and the other like famous podcasters of the world. Uh, that's, you can help doing that, do that by telling your mom and your dad to listen to it. Uh, tell them about the big trial next week.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Yeah. Tune in for the big trial next week and find it. Watch what happens when Andrew is overprepared and Gavin, uh, completely and totally forgot about it until 10 minutes before. Are we going to do sentencing next week? It's up to Eric. Three, two, one, go.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Three, two, one, go.

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