F**kface - Double Sized Head // Demolish You in the Sewing Machine [29]

Episode Date: December 16, 2020

Geoff, Gavin, and Andrew talk about making molds of your head, when you're teen aged, rarely having bean bags, and more. Sponsored by Manscaped (http://manscaped.com/face). Follow F**kface on Instagra...m at https://www.instagram.com/fuckfacepod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:41 There's no way he's recording. You have to give him 25 minutes. You think that we've done how many of these? 28? You think I'm ready to go? Why are you never ready? Andrew's got to spin up the hamster wheel so he can save his fucking file. Turning the audio as W-A-V.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Andrew's not ready. Eric's leaving. Maybe we should do it next week. No, I'll be fine. I'll be fine. Let's do a short one. Unless you got somewhere to go, Gav. No, I'll be fine. I'll be fine. Let's do a short one. Unless you got somewhere to go, Gav. No, I got nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Because I already blocked out the full line time, Eric. Yeah, well, next time I should do that. I'd like to point out. Idiot. I'm going to assume we're going. Yeah, we've started like a minute ago. We've obviously started. This is episode 29 of F*** Face. If you're tuning in, you don't know what the hell's going on.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I think this episode started when Eric went, you can do another one, I guess. All right, bye. This is the podcast that's produced by the very talented Eric Bedore. And I say produced in light terms because he's only here about once every five episodes these days. I think that's what we're at right now. He's now accounting this one. He's been here for one of the last five now. He's now accounting this when he's been here for
Starting point is 00:02:46 one of the last five podcasts. He's definitely a guest. He was on 27 also. Oh, you're still here? Jesus. Yeah. Well, let's just... How late can you go to this meeting? I'm already 12 minutes late for this meeting. Well, what's another 42 minutes? That would be
Starting point is 00:03:02 the whole meeting, so I have to go. But you haven't yet. You you still you want to be in this episode no i want to i need to go but i'm waiting for andrew i'm waiting for andrew to come back so that way you guys have a third person what's the meeting about uh it's about new podcasts why don't you stick to the ones that we're still making you're not even on them i don't need to be on all of them i just need to start getting these other ones going. What do you guys think Andrew's doing right now?
Starting point is 00:03:29 He's probably managing the steam engine that's powering his computer. Yeah, he's cranking the generator. Yeah, the coal going in. Okay, well, you guys talk amongst yourselves. I have to go to this meeting. Okay. Okay, bye. He's gone. He's fucking gone. He's straight up gone just the just the
Starting point is 00:03:48 absentee producer that's what we should credit him as jeff were you more mad about the bat thing or would you have been more mad if we'd done absolutely nothing and didn't make content from from that whole ordeal obviously obviously gavin obviously it's footage and, obviously, it's footage. And that's all that matters. It's footage. It's footage. That's how we roll. That's how we live our lives.
Starting point is 00:04:11 But it doesn't mean that it wasn't psychologically torturous for me. Well, of course. For about two weeks. It was also followed up by Andrew seeming to have absolutely no understanding about how to make a bat. Because we were talking about the bat knobs if we want to sell smaller things and don't want to ship a full bat we would just sell the knob because that's the signed bit yeah but i don't know what he was so confused about i was not confused you two are ridiculous are you recording yeah i'm recording no i just decided to talk i've been here the whole time it's just why would i talk if i'm not recording what's the point so now i'm talking why you're ridiculous once again my point was you okay so when you
Starting point is 00:04:50 make a bat you have a certain amount of material right yeah how much if you're just making knobs how many knobs could you make with the same amount of material you would take to make a full bat that's all i was saying well obviously you would get a lot of knobs but there's no one out there making just that's not the question i was saying that's not my you would get a lot of knobs, but there's no one out there making just the knobs of a bat. That's not the question I was saying. That's not my point, though. I would also like to point out that you didn't ask it that coherently at any
Starting point is 00:05:14 point. I feel like I did multiple times. Your summary now is approaching common sense. No, it's always common sense. It's approaching sensical, but you were nowhere near that succeed. No. I absolutelyical, but you were nowhere near that success. No, I absolutely was. You two were just obsessed about making bats for some reason.
Starting point is 00:05:33 You're both just saying nobody does that, and I'm like, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying how much could you make? You can make a lot of knobs for the amount of material you make one bat. But you'd have to custom get knobs, because no one stops. No one mills a bat down to just the knob and puts it in a box ready to, no one's going to buy that. But I'm, that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying people do this. I was just asking how many could you produce?
Starting point is 00:05:56 For the amount it would take to make one bat, you could probably make a bunch of knobs. That's all I was saying. But who's this person doing this? It doesn't, that's not what the point. That's not the point. There doesn't need to be a person. This is a hypothetical how many knobs make a bat. It was hypothetical. Why are we talking about it then?
Starting point is 00:06:10 What are you saying? What are you saying? I was just trying to make a point that for the amount you pay for one bat, if you were to sell knobs, you would get way more knobs for the same cost of material. But we were explaining this, and in the text you say that's crazy to me a knob is a Knob well because you guys went this whole other way. I don't have it in front of me
Starting point is 00:06:29 I could I'm sure I could explain Why it was crazy you guys seem to imply that you can only have a knob if you made a bat that the knob could not Exist without being connected to the bat that was the implication. I was getting well. We were talking about a real product We were saying it's gonna be cheaper and easier to buy a load of that's what I was getting well we were talking about a real product we were saying it's going to be cheaper and easier to buy a load of bats and saw off the knobs than get custom knobs built I was just saying hypothetically if you were to only make
Starting point is 00:06:54 knobs it would be more cost effective because you can make way more of them for the same amount of resources you would need to make a full bat at no point did you make that point that clearly that was the entirety of my nonsense that's absolutely nonsense absolutely not i'll be honest with you anytime anybody mentions bat or knob my fucking the hairs in the back of my neck stand up so i'm on edge immediately so it's
Starting point is 00:07:17 possible i was a little uh i was a little on guard from the outset of that conversation but uh if memory serves and it usually does uh gavin is right you were you were being a bit of a lunatic and not making no i wasn't i was being a little section of the conversation andrew says you couldn't just make a knob bat i said what does that mean jeff says no dude a bat has one knob on it to get more knobs from a length of bat you need to get the word before they lathe it, blah blah. Andrew said, well, it's just shaped wood, isn't it? Wait, so they attach the knob? I said, no,
Starting point is 00:07:52 oh my god. Honestly, this conversation is pages long and it doesn't align with anything that you just said, Andrew. No, my whole point, is that a text conversation? We have so many conversations. Yeah, that was text.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Okay. I don't even have my phone on me. That was my point the entire time was that the amount of knobs you can make with the same resources you make with a bat would be a lot more. So in my head, it's more cost effective to make knobs because you can make more of them instead of just selling one bat. You can make however many knobs with that same amount of material. That was my point. Then you guys were talking about like bats need knobs, you can make however many knobs with that same amount of material.
Starting point is 00:08:25 That was my point. Then you guys were talking about like bats need knobs and you made it sound like knobs couldn't be adjacent from the bat. And then I was talking about like, what if you just did a bat of knobs? Like, what if it was just knobs the whole way? Why couldn't it just be all knobs? And you're very opposed to that from my memory. No. Wait, how was I opposed? I feel like somebody, maybe it was Jeff,
Starting point is 00:08:46 but people were not supportive of that idea. You just have a knob of bats. Or a knob bat? A knob of bats? A bat of knobs? A bat of knobs. Yeah. That'd be the better way to say it.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Just ludicrous. I think it would be fun. I still think there's a market, though, for the bat knobs. We just have to make the knobs. Yeah. We just have to get the knobs made. Listen, I'm not opposed to it. If we do it, I'd like them to be full-size knobs.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I'd like them to be... I don't want to sell toy bat knobs. I'd like to sell full-size baseball bat knobs. And if we can get them that size, I would... I would fucking burn them again or whatever eventually or we can come up with something else to do that one of you two could do that would be
Starting point is 00:09:32 cool I think it's really good when you do it I think people really like that I think that's the feedback we're going to get is we specifically really like when Jeff signs the small the one thing that I'll say is if it was a full size knob it would probably be a hell of a lot easier a hell of a lot easier to A hell of a lot easier to number. Also, if we sawed off the main part of the bat,
Starting point is 00:09:49 then that wood is then clean for engraving. Yeah, that's true. That's no varnish. Oh, yeah. That's a great point. Yeah, fuck that varnish, let me tell you. Well, that is the question. Was the varnish part of the bat or were they manipulated?
Starting point is 00:10:03 I don't think we'll ever know. I think we still don't know. Yeah. And the one man who could tell us is left. As Daryl looked at his duty again. Aye, aye, aye. Fucking, and then, so I was thinking about like what's next. And then, actually, my girlfriend said,
Starting point is 00:10:20 what if you should make a zine about Andrew? And I thought that's a great idea, actually, because Andrew says a lot of dumb off-the-wall stuff. And I thought we could just make a zine about Andrew or a f***face zine. That would be a lot of fun to do. Dude, don't start. And then I put it in the merch.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I said, hey, I want to make a zine. And then like a year later, when Andrew got his phone back, he just out of the blue said, what's a zine? And then I was like, A, how do you not know what a zine is? i thought what do you think a zine is and then it turned into the most frustrating conversation the closest i think andrew got was he said uh is it a hat no no i didn't no no i didn't no yours what a twist of what i i compared it to a magazine i said is it a magazine is a part of the
Starting point is 00:11:06 magazine i didn't know what it was i had no context for it i my point was if someone has no idea what it is asking what do you think it is what's the value in that conversation are you having someone are you paying someone to be you on slack because you on slack and you never agree i don't know what that means i will go to the slack log right now i definitely thought it was a magazine i is well i said is a zina hat as a joke because it was a reference to a hat yeah that was the point of that i didn't actually think a zine was a hat and then i say magazine related that's my first real guess i wasn't all about this hat but then it turned into a whole well what is a zine then no then it then you want to know what a maga is
Starting point is 00:11:50 well because it's tied to the zine well then you want to know what an em is well that was a conversation I had with someone I I do a quiz thing with with a friend and one of the questions was what do you put in a terrarium and I narrowed it down to either tomatoes or turtles it was one of the questions was what do you put in a terrarium and I narrowed it down to either tomatoes or turtles. It was one of the two and I thought okay well if a turtle is in a terrarium you put fish in an aquarium both have eons. Is there an eon
Starting point is 00:12:16 connection? What is the joint eon? I went tomatoes even though I know how you grow tomatoes and there's no terrarium involved. It was a terrible guess. Obviously wrong. So I was just wondering what the Ems were. It's like just a Latin ending, isn't it? It is. And I answered that. Yeah, you did. You explained all of it.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Here's the conversation. Andrew says, what's a zine? Andrew says, what's a zine? I say, what do you think it is? Andrew responds, that's an insane response. Eric says, this is very good. No, I don't think it's an insane response. Eric says, this is very good. No, I don't think it's an insane response.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I think it's interesting. If you don't know what something is, I'd just like to know what your first guess is. I say, no, I think it's a fair response. Happy to answer you, but I'd love to know your initial thoughts before it's tainted with actual information. You said, that would be like if we took a random person
Starting point is 00:13:01 and said, what's gerple? To which I responded, I don't know. I don't think that's a bad idea. I think we could do that. And you said, a zine certainly isn't a hat. I say, okay. You respond, is a zine a hat? I believe you thought a zine was a hat. No, I never did.
Starting point is 00:13:17 It was a joke. This is a joke, Jeff. Okay. I still think we should make a zine. You explain to me what it is. I don't understand what you mean. I say still don't, you explain to me what it is I don't understand what you mean I say you Wikipedia articles No, I know what it is, I just don't understand how it would be executed I don't know what you want from it
Starting point is 00:13:32 I would, I would, I would, here's what here's how it would be, I would make a f*** face zine or an Andrew zine I would, either way I'm giving you the foreword to it, the intro you would write a page of something about what this is, episode one. Then Gavin, we would give some tips on how to live your life,
Starting point is 00:13:51 like how to store your ketchup. Here's a helpful guide how to store your ketchup. We'd write it all out, make some funny stuff there. Gavin would illustrate it because he's obviously the talented artist among the three of us based on his... Well, ever since Andrew taught me how to draw. yeah ever since andrew told you how to draw we could have like a little game like how to draw a face we could do that a little bit maybe have an article uh on uh i don't know how to make a how to make a hot dog in your closet sounds like a nice beefed up version
Starting point is 00:14:20 of our instagram yeah like a little beast beefed up version and our Instagram. Yeah, like a little beefed up version. And then you add some pictures and stuff and then you photocopy it and staple it and fold it in half and then sell it. I understood. Got it. That makes sense. That sounds good. I can support that. I think it would be a fun one time thing, a unique thing to do like the bats. And I'm sure now that I've breathed that idea into the world, it will come back to torture and torment me in some way. No, not at all. In the back of the first issue, we should have like a dotted outline where you can cut it out and construct your own hat from the zine so that technically a zine is a hat.
Starting point is 00:14:55 That's a great idea. Could I sponsor the zine? Is the zine looking for sponsors for the publication of it? Yeah, if you want to sponsor it with like NotTheRussoTeeStore. As the owner of NotTheRoosterTeethStore, I'd be willing to maybe kick some money your way, get a good ad for it because it is the Christmas season.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I would give you preferred ad placement. That's great. And then we could sell it on your website where it arrives a year and a half from now. Yeah, exactly. This is all coming together perfectly. I have multiple businesses now. Thank me later. Building a little empire here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:27 But let me, you know what? This is actually a great time because I'm assuming the, well, I'm not assuming anything because this is my idea and I'm not at all being influenced by what I assume was successful and was a really good idea
Starting point is 00:15:38 by someone else. I just came up with this myself. Not the Rooster Teeth store. Christmas coming around the corner might want to get a gift. I figured what would be better than a bat so i i put some work and i really put the time and effort in and uh we're gonna have bats on the store wait what we're gonna have he's made a he's made a fluke face bat no it's totally original idea not related to anyone else completely influenced by
Starting point is 00:16:02 me it was my thought i like bats a lot big fan of knobs like all of it think it's a great thing so I made some bats What logo whose logo is that on the side? That's the fluke face logo that is the official No, the other one which oh, that's the company that made the bat couldn't remove that that's theirs No didn't have that option. It's a great-looking bat Fluke face what size what size is this it looks like a real sized looks like I don't think it's I think that option it's a great looking bat fluke face what size what size is this it looks like a real size looks like i don't think it's i think it's it's either gonna be a normal nah i think it's a trophy bat but just uh putting it out there not the roosterteastore.com fluke face bats it's mainly someone else's logo on a bat andrew nah it's maybe 50 50 at best
Starting point is 00:16:43 at best gavin 50 50 it's a pretty good bat i don. At best, Gavin, 50-50. It's a pretty good bat. I don't think that bat's as good as the other bat. I think it's a pretty good bat. Got it engraved on the side. Because I like minimal effort, unlike Jeff. I like to put nothing into the project, so I just had them do it. There's also only going to be one of these, so...
Starting point is 00:17:02 Stock a little limited. Not that we sell things anyway, but it's going to be a tough guess so stock a little limited not that we sell things anyway but it's going to be a tough game just engrave one on it yeah just one of one so Fluke Face has it back and you think that will ship before Christmas definitely not
Starting point is 00:17:17 that we run our shipping through a company called Thank Me Later unrelated I'm not double dipping at all so somewhere between 4 to 12 months is my word i may be looking into cricket bats and ping pong paddles who knows maybe this is a whole market we'll see we'll see what the future has the whole i can't wait to see your ripoff zine you make i don't know what that is, so don't worry about it. Just don't put a hat store. I actually got feedback from somebody who, there are hats in the wild now by people.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And I got feedback from someone who I sent through one of the charity things. And they're messed up in a way that we didn't even understand. The layers of how fucked up these hats are is still unfolding. Are you serious? It's kind of beautiful. Yeah. The person said they were going to send a photo of them wearing it to the Instagram account.
Starting point is 00:18:11 But when they put it on, it's like, it's not deep enough to wear properly. It like doesn't fit on their head. Like the depth of the hat, it doesn't line up. So it's not even like a good thing to wear. And they're short.
Starting point is 00:18:22 They were like four foot something. And so the logo being at the top because also remember like the fuck across is way too high they were optimal for that and it still just doesn't work there's no scenario which that hat works wait what's their height got to do with it well because we were joking that the logo on the hat like it goes oh like it's on the top so if you're short people could look down and see the logo, I thought you were saying that the depth of the hat was to do with how short they are. Like they have a shorter head. No, no, it had nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I was just saying that it was an additional way in which the hats were screwed up. So it's like a skull, it's like a scalp covering. It apparently is, yeah. I haven't tried to wear one. My head is absurdly big anyway. It wouldn't work no matter what. But it apparently doesn't for even a normal head i'm large head long back bad ankles yeah it's like my body type would be like if you squeeze the thing of toothpaste like it's not a lot at the bottom
Starting point is 00:19:19 and then there's we're going really big top. Do you own, do you, can you wear hats? No, I can't. I don't have any. I buy, I've bought a few hats.
Starting point is 00:19:33 There's no hat that fits me. It sucks. I'd love to be a hat guy. A beanie will fit you. No, I can't wear a beanie. I don't look good in a beanie. Beanie's no good for me.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I'd love to be a hat guy. It just doesn't work. In a perfect world, if we could find, if we could identify and find the right size, what kind of hat do you see yourself wearing? Do you mean like, are you looking like a baseball cap or like a top hat? Yeah, no, I don't want a top hat. I just want a baseball hat. I'm not asking for a lot. I'd love to be a baseball hat guy. You don't want to do like a Sherlock Holmes hat? Or maybe like a pork pie hat like you're in a ska band?
Starting point is 00:20:09 That seems hot. Yeah, you just want a regular old baseball hat, but one that fits a giant, giant head. Yeah. It's been a real prop. I'm sure that that company exists. We used to work with a guy, uh, you remember him, Bernie? Uh, he had a giant head, and i think he had the special
Starting point is 00:20:26 he had to special order his baseball caps from a like a big and tall head store right i'm not making that up i've never understood when people say like people say are you i've got a big head there's only a head can only be so big i would say that no no next time we're in austin and you're done laughing at my broken ankle you're gonna look at my head and be like that's a big head well i have photos of you that i've taken with other people in them and your head is just it's no it matches all no no i'm telling if next time next time we're in the same location together, you'll do an analysis.
Starting point is 00:21:06 You'll be like, that's a big head. I think we got to measure head size. I will absolutely measure. I bet you my head is almost double the size of Gavin's head. That's impossible. I think I got a double head on Gavin. You've got a tiny smushed in nose that can't be broken. Mine sticks out like half the length of my head.
Starting point is 00:21:27 That has nothing to do with head size. That's nose size. That's a different thing. That's on my head. What do you think the nose is? No, but it's part of the head. But it's not like you don't wear a hat on your fucking nose. It doesn't matter how big your nose is.
Starting point is 00:21:39 You don't wear a hat on your nose. One of those plague doctors. Should we do molds? Should we do casts of One of those plague doctors. Should we do molds? Should we do casts of our heads? Yes. How do we do that? It's a process, but we could get them done, and then we could maybe have paperweights.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And if you live in a really windy place with a lot of paper, that's when you buy the Andrew one, because it's apparently so much bigger. I don't think my head could fit on my desk. I don't think I have space for it. I'm't think my head could fit on my desk. I don't think I have space for it. I'm not saying my head is bigger than my desk. I'm saying for the amount of space I have on my desk, it would not fit. I'd have to move things.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah, you'd move the waffle maker, the condiment. That's near my bed. Relax. Have you made a bed waffle yet? Have either of you done that? You said you're going to do it. No, I just... Disappointing.
Starting point is 00:22:26 No, I haven't received my waffle maker yet. You bought one? Well, I don't want to say. I don't want to talk about it. Okay, well, you just did. So it's too late. I don't currently have a bedroom waffle maker. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I'll say that. Okay. And I'll be able to talk about it more early next year, probably. What? Yeah. Yeah, well well that's the whole thing speaking of like making molds of our head that reminded me I recently heard a story on fuck it was probably another podcast honestly so I'm probably poaching somebody else's content
Starting point is 00:22:58 but did you ever hear that story about Jeff Daniels and his plaster face mask on snl no no he apparently was this is a long time ago he was doing uh an episode of snl he was hosting and they put like a plaster get like a plaster mold of his face and the only thing i hope i'm not fucking this story up i'm going off memory it was like his face was totally covered except for two little nose holes
Starting point is 00:23:27 and they went to take the plaster off and it wouldn't come off and it was like rock hard and they couldn't figure out how to get it off and I think that like his mouth was covered too and he wasn't feeling well and he was like they were
Starting point is 00:23:43 terrified because if he vomited or he would choke and and die and they were trying to figure out how to get it off and uh i think eventually they got it off after hours and hours uh they had to take it off with a hammer and i think he lost i think he lost his eyebrows and his eyelashes and some of his other hair. I'm looking up a story about it now. It says they took six hours and by one in the morning, he was ready to go. He held down the vomit from his
Starting point is 00:24:15 jambalaya that he had because he was gonna die. They ripped out all the stubble in his beard. It was mega painful. Then they got it off. Then they found out later, I think, and this part I might be making up, but I they got it off. And then they found out later, I think, and this part I might be making up, but I don't think so. I think they found out later that somebody in the costume department was disgruntled or got laid
Starting point is 00:24:31 off and tampered with that mold. Like the bat. Yeah. And supposedly Jeff Daniels, he was sick to his stomach the whole time because he had some bad food. And if he had vomited while he was wearing that thing that they couldn't get off, he would have died.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And it took like six hours to get off. I wonder if the vomit would have blown it off. I don't know, dude. I think that would... I think... I don't know about you guys, but I think if I was trapped with only my nose holes out for that long while they couldn't get something off my face, and it was probably pitch black and I couldn't breathe, I couldn't open my mouth my face and it was probably pitch black and you know
Starting point is 00:25:05 i couldn't i couldn't breathe i couldn't open my mouth or anything i think i'd probably would lose i think i'd probably lose my mind i think that would break me i think i'd probably just i've had that done i've had the uh thing where you just have like straws in your nose and that's the only thing that you can do because your mouth is snugly covered yeah Yeah. It's not great. It's not a relaxing experience when you're not about to hurl. Yeah, no. I hope I don't ever have to do that. I'm not scared of enclosed spaces or anything, but I think that would fuck me up.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Didn't we just have a conversation about molding our entire faces? Wasn't that the lead into this? Yeah, I think so. I hope I never have to do this we're literally we're talking about doing this I mean I'll do it for my skull I'll do my cranium I just don't want to do my mouth and my nose what do you mean you could do the whole thing
Starting point is 00:25:54 I'll do the whole thing but nobody can tamper with the solution and we have to make sure that it's not it hasn't like Nick isn't disgruntled or something as the people who make face we should have a code word where this shouldn't be mentioned on the it hasn't like Nick isn't disgruntled or something. As the, uh, the people who make face, we should have a code word where this shouldn't be mentioned on the podcast. Either we'll have it privately,
Starting point is 00:26:10 but where we want to just not mess with each other for the duration of a project. And if we all say the code word, then we just make a gentleman's agreement that we will not mess with said discussion. I would never do something that would, that would like to that level. That'd be terrible. I'm okay with jokes,
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Starting point is 00:30:08 No. I'm surprised. Is it Eric? I have a question. I'm back, baby. I'm glad Eric is here. How'd the meeting go? It was good.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It was productive. I think we're going to have a new slate of some stuff coming in January and into February. I'm really excited about the new products and the new shows that we're putting out for Rooster Teeth and RoosterTeeth.com and the Rooster Teeth phone application. Eric, would you get a mold of your head done? Oh, that would be cool.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah. How would you do that? We didn't get that far. We're just discussing molds. We're trying to decide. We want to get molds of our heads so we can see if Andrew's head is twice the size of Gavin's. Andrew said, get this,
Starting point is 00:30:43 his head is twice the size of mine. I have, get this, his head is twice the size of mine. What? I have a huge head. Can't you just measure hat size? We could, but I think it just escalated to doing a full mold. They wanted to go the extra mile. Did you, Eric, you and I listen to a lot of the same podcasts. Did you recently hear a story about Jeff Daniels being stuck in a mold on SNL
Starting point is 00:31:03 from one of the podcasts we both listened to together? What? No, I haven't heard that yet. I don't know where I heard it from then. How do you get stuck in a mold? I tell you what, you should listen to this episode of F*** Face because we already covered it. Or just be here, you know, to produce.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I found a thing on how to make head molds. Oh. That seems easy. Yeah, I'm a producer. You didn't head molds. Oh. That seems easy. Yeah, I'm a producer. You didn't produce anything. You Googled something. You produced that information. I found solutions for what you can do if you want to get a mold of your head.
Starting point is 00:31:34 The thing that you didn't have a solution for. So if you have any more questions, let me know. I just don't want to throw up and die. No, that'd be terrible. I have a question. I've asked this to a few people. There's no range. Either people don't know this. I was in the camp to throw up and die. No, that'd be terrible. I have a question. I've asked this to a few people. There's no range. Either people don't know this.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I was in the camp that didn't know this. And then there are people that do. And the people that do seem to think you're the dumbest person in the world for not knowing this. How do you differentiate what are your teen years? Do you know this? Without saying. Do you both know this, Jeff and Gavin? Do I know?
Starting point is 00:32:02 If it ends in the word, if it ends in teen word it's a teen year okay 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 yeah because of teen it says teen in the name 19 eric did you know that yeah i don't understand i mean i i feel like you're gonna trick us or something and you're gonna be like it actually extends to 22 yeah like 20 just teen it's just like the teen let's do if you consider like 12 your teens but it's not it's 13 through 19 yeah i was just i've asked this i've gotten equal didn't know and no i didn't know that i had no idea there was a whole thing i didn't know where my teen years began and ended i was i was unsure if i was a teenager when i was like 17 maybe it's teenage it's all in the word. Teen age.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I know. I just never made the connection. I never thought about it. Are you serious? Let's follow the line then. Do you know what dictates when you're in your 20s? Well, you're in your 20s. Oh, it's the word thing again?
Starting point is 00:32:58 21, 20. How about 30s? Well, I always view it as a number thing. I don't view it as a word thing. Because when you... Because when you, okay. The word is a number. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're making a terrible point because when you're a kid, you're a kid or you're a child,
Starting point is 00:33:15 it's not a child to, a child to set child end. So, hang on. It doesn't apply the same way. You think that the one, no, shut up. Set child and so it doesn't apply the same way. The one. No, shut up. You think that the one situation you think that the one situation negates the rest of ages. You think because child doesn't have a number associated with it. You don't 20, 30, 40.
Starting point is 00:33:38 You think all of those are negated. You don't do it with child or adult. You only do it with team. So it's kind of weird It just is a thing that comes in the middle. It's numbers. It's just the numbers I get it's the numbers what I'm saying. It's a weird operating system because it applies. It's like almost a convenience thing I don't feel like I don't it's just strange That's why I never thought about it because I wasn't there's no number thing from 1 to 11. What's a 12?
Starting point is 00:34:03 12 1 to 12. 12. 1 to 12. Yeah, 13. 1 to 12. And then there's nothing for adult going above that, so it's just sort of this weird thing of time. You flip to 20s, 30s. That's a thing, but, like, kid, adult, or child, teenager, adult. What do you mean there's nothing above it?
Starting point is 00:34:21 No, they're two different systems, aren't they? No. When you're in your 20s, 30s, 40s well 10s wouldn't work um senior middle-aged yeah but those are like all terms teen is part of those terms and it's the only one that has numbers tied to it for the pronunciation of the numbers that is not incorrect uh it's not i i i don't even know how to respond to that I joined this podcast and I feel sick now I don't feel well I'm saying I should have known that obviously but I don't think it's crazy
Starting point is 00:34:58 to not make that connection because it's such a small window of time I think the reaction is so extreme because if you grow up, if you learn it and you notice it at the time where you learn it for the first time, it's so normal to you that it's insane that people didn't know what they were saying this whole time.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I feel like every child in the world is excited and counting down the days till they become a teenager, which begins the day you turn 13. I don't know how you don't. It's not just imbued in your psyche from growing up and being a child and being around other kids who also celebrate birthdays. I just didn't know when it started. It's not that I wasn't excited about it. I just wasn't. When did you think it started? I had no idea, Jeff. I had no clue
Starting point is 00:35:47 when that transition happened from child to teen. I didn't know. So you were 17 and you were wondering if you were a teen. I distinctly remember being 17 and thinking like, am I still a teenager? Did I miss the whole teenage thing? Where am I on this arc? You blink and you'll miss me.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Yeah. That was sort of what it was it's like wow did I go through my entire teenage years without even knowing I was a teenager I never liked you were like bopping along to teenage dirtbag didn't realize no idea the age range yeah no no clue I just never made that association I was just. I bet you some people who listen to this haven't either. And they'll learn. They've learned something. I would love it if you're brave enough to put in the comments that you also didn't understand what the age range of teenage years was. If you want to admit to that where the whole world can see,
Starting point is 00:36:43 I'd love to know it because I kind of feel like Andrew's alone on an island here. I'm definitely not. I hope he is. I hope he is. This isn't like a crazy thing to not know. It is. It's 100% a crazy thing not to know.
Starting point is 00:36:54 I just never made that connection. I was hoping one other person here also wouldn't have. Universal, though, everyone knows. It's fine. I was just curious. You ever think about how much it sucks
Starting point is 00:37:05 to be 20 it's such a weird year like you're not a teenager anymore but you're not an adult you have that one in between year where you don't get to be a teenager so you don't get to like shrug your shoulders and say i'm just a teen you know i fucked. But you don't get to go get drunk at a bar. You're just 20. It just sucks. Yet your insurance doesn't go down. You don't get any real benefits, but you lose the teen moniker and you don't get to call yourself an adult.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I didn't really have that. Yeah. But you didn't leave your house for the first 25 years. How would you? Well, I mean, I could drink at 18, so I wasn't thinking 20. Like what can't I do?
Starting point is 00:37:46 I could do everything at 20. I guess maybe that's a fair point. I guess it's a uniquely American thing because the drinking age is 21 here. It's pretty high. That'd be one of the highest drinking ages on the planet. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:57 It probably is the highest drinking age on the planet. I could drink as a teenager. What about you, Andrew? Yeah, I think 18. I'm not much of a drinker so once again not entirely sure when that started i think 18 so when you say you're not much of a drinker do you just never ever drink even at social things i drank recently i just this is uh okay um i just pulled everything out of the pantry and had a sip of it because I was just curious of just the things that I had. And I wouldn't recommend trying Chinese cooking wine.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Not a great beverage. That's not a good one. That ranked the lowest of the things I had in my pantry. I didn't even know that was a thing. Chinese cooking wine. I'm assuming it's a cooking thing. I don't know why I have it. Chinese cooking wine,'m assuming it's a cooking thing I don't know why I have it Chinese cooking wine not a great beverage
Starting point is 00:38:47 Sake of all the things I had was by far the best I have no memory of how I have these things or when I got them but I had like five yeah I guess over time I guess I would have and I don't remember when what do you think you were making when you bought the Chinese cooking wine I have no clue
Starting point is 00:39:04 what I was cooking. I don't, a lot of the things I'd never even opened. I opened them for the first time and I had a sip of everything. Sake by far the best. Chinese cooking wine just tastes like ocean. I wouldn't recommend sipping it at all. I don't think you're supposed to. I had wine in the thing and it had an alcohol content, so I assumed it was drinkable.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I assumed it was a beverage. But I'm going to say no. According to Google, the United States and 11 other countries have a minimum legal drinking age of 21 years old, the highest minimum legal drinking age of all the countries where it's legal to drink, although some areas of India have drinking ages as high as 30 years old. I mean, a lot of places in India you can't drink at all.
Starting point is 00:39:44 That's true. A lot of places in the world you can't drink at all. But there true. A lot of places in the world, you can't drink at all. But there are some places in India where I guess you can once you hit your 30s. Wow, that's insane. I didn't think... Wow, that's really high. I thought you wouldn't want to drink if you hadn't drank by 30.
Starting point is 00:39:57 You wouldn't do it. If you've made it to 30 without drinking, there'd be no reason to start. Maybe a high drinking age is a better thing. Yeah, I mean... I reason to start. Maybe a high drinking age is a better thing. Yeah, I mean, I would have taken it as a challenge. I think you already did. Yeah, I would agree with that. As the resident alcoholic in the group, I would argue that maybe it's better not to drink at all.
Starting point is 00:40:22 That'd be a good argument. I have drunk once at a social event one time in my life, Gavin, and it was a disaster. Did you get drunk? I think I did. I was definitely on the edge. I was going to a Christmas party
Starting point is 00:40:35 and I'm like, I'm not a big party guy and I'm like, oh, I'd be really nice to like, I don't know, be more social or maybe, you know, I never drink. What if I try drinking and that'll maybe make me a little bit more social, be more comfortable. I won't have the anxiety I typically have. So I went into my kitchen, got a giant cup like something from like 7-Eleven, like like
Starting point is 00:40:56 a Slurpee almost type cup, and I filled it with orange juice and vodka. I just put a bunch in a both. I did no measuring. I just filled it and I drank it really quickly and it hit immediately and I felt like I had lava in my stomach, which I don't think is normal. I don't think you're supposed to feel that way. And I just started sweating profusely. I could not stop sweating. And so then I go. It's just like no matter what I do, every time I move, I feel lightheaded. My stomach feels like there's a fucking volcano inside of it. I can't stop sweating It's doing all the opposite things of I want like that is not a good social look at a party where everyone's relaxed And you're just sweating profusely and so I go from my place to my dad's and They're getting ready and soccer's on TV I don't watch soccer at all and I say to his girlfriend, you know why I hate soccer?
Starting point is 00:41:46 Too many leagues. I just said that like I had no opinions on it. I'm so glad she didn't ask name more than one because I couldn't. It's like there's MLS. I guess there's the Premier League and MLS is all I know. But certainly that's not an extreme amount. Bundesliga. Yeah, I didn't know that one either. So that like my point, I know two leagues.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I just was saying stuff. It was like I was on the brink of not being able to control what i was like i was holding on really tight to being able to what to say what i wanted so then i didn't want to speak at all yeah so i didn't want to speak at all so then we go to the party i'm still sweating profusely i still feel like i have a volcano in my stomach and i'm just not talking to people just sitting sweating non-stop I cannot stop it or I'm having brief conversations it made it a million times worse it was a terrible it was a terrible social experience so I just don't drink I didn't drink before that and I don't drink socially now and I'm not opposed to it I just don't do it oh god what made what made you pick
Starting point is 00:42:43 vodka and orange juice uh because i it's just what i had it was what was available at that time and uh i just wanted to drown because i don't like the taste of alcohol had you ever had that before no i don't think so i literally just filled a giant cup with both just one big sweaty screwdriver just one one massive, yeah, sweaty screwdriver. Your chemistry must be off or something. I feel like nothing has the desired effect on you. I think I might be allergic. I don't think those are normal. Like, I get stuffed up and sweaty whenever I drink.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Did you throw up at all from the alcohol? No. No, I didn't. And you drank a big gulp-sized container. I didn't drink all of it. I drank a lot of it. Okay. It was a lot. So would you say that you were drunk or you were just feeling side effects that weren't
Starting point is 00:43:30 anything to do with? Well, I don't have anything to compare it to. I think it's maybe the most drunk I've been. I'm assuming that's what being drunk is. I've never been like black. It's hard to describe being drunk. I feel like stuff's just floaty. Everything's floaty and warm. And everything kind of feels like a hug.
Starting point is 00:43:53 And it starts to get a little hazy and spinny, I would say. Okay. I was probably drunk then. I mean, I definitely would have been drunk. But it was like, I had an awareness to it. So then I just didn't really want to talk to anybody i was like i don't uh i don't know if i have full control here at this time i'm just gonna be yelling about soccer leagues a sport i don't watch or actually have any opinions about just had to chime in it just had to chime in too
Starting point is 00:44:16 many leagues were they soccer fans or did it just happen no it just happened to be on tv there was no soccer established thing at all it was was just what was on. Too many leagues. I bet you've bet on soccer before, though. Oh, I've bet on... Do you want to get into the... Oh, my God. Pavel Khodov, I fucking hate you. You're never going to listen to this. No one knows you exist.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Cannot stand you. You're my arch enemy in life. You're awful. Is this handball? This isn't handball. This is Russian tennis. this is a russian qualifier tennis tournament it's maybe the most angry i've ever been about any gambling thing ever i had this idea of i'm just gonna bet on massive favorites one night and i was just betting like really tiny amounts but i kept winning because they're massive favorites pavlokhodov was like he he was more a four time like going to win. Like the other guy
Starting point is 00:45:06 was like a nine to one underdog. And I spent the entire night watching this game as Pavel Khodov blew his lead slowly throughout the night. I was up until 3 a.m. on a stat tracker website following this Russian tennis qualifier that nobody else on the planet cares about, losing my mind because Pavel Khodov doesn't know how to close a game. Maybe the worst tennis player of all time. He's going against the guy that had won like $1,000 in all his years playing tennis
Starting point is 00:45:34 and he was in his mid-30s. So this is a hobby. He lost to a guy who's a hobbyist. Outrageous. Did you have a lot of money riding on this? No, it was like $10, but I was just furious. Couldn't believe it. Do you think you're the only person in history to bet on Pavel...
Starting point is 00:45:50 What was his name? Pavel Kodov? Pavel Kodov. Pavel Kodov. I don't know about that. Never bet on Pavel Kodov. Don't do it. That guy has a baseball card.
Starting point is 00:46:00 We need to get it. He doesn't. He definitely doesn't. A tennis baseball card? And the worst part the worst part is there's nobody to complain to about Pavel Kodov because nobody knows who it is it's a Russian qualifier that nobody cares about so I'm like looking online to try to find any place I could rant to about can you fucking believe Pavel Kodov blew six match points in a row
Starting point is 00:46:23 and lost this is the worst thing ever I hate Pavel Kodov I six match points in a row and lost. This is the worst thing ever. I hate Pavel Kodov. I certainly didn't give a shit when you texted me about it. Oh, it was infuriating. Speaking of, I have my tennis lessons tomorrow. You just reminded me. Very excited. You're doing tennis lessons? You guys know I've been taking
Starting point is 00:46:39 tennis lessons? Why? To play tennis. Oh. No, I mean, yeah, I i'm just i've been i've been been taking lessons for like three months now two months two to three months yeah why'd you want to why'd you want to get good at tennis uh it seems like uh i mean a it's something different to do it's a sport it's an outside activity you know i have that whole issue with the arthritis in my shoulder and how I'm dying slowly from the inside. And I thought it might help like lube up my arm and keep me mobile, keep me moving from
Starting point is 00:47:12 getting the thing that they told me was going to happen to me that I'm terrified of, which is that my shoulder will freeze in place for the rest of my life and I'll never be able to use my arm properly again. So I thought like this would be a good way to do it. And so, yeah yeah, every week for probably three months now taking tennis lessons. On Fridays now. Used to be on Saturdays.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And it's fun! And it's socially responsible because it's distanced and it's COVID safe. Oh, you still have to touch the ball. Not if you play right. I always wondered, I know it would be really hard to do do but if you hit somebody with the ball you immediately get a point and i always thought if i was a professional tennis player that's all i'd do off the serve is just trying to get a point well if you hit the person with the ball like if you're
Starting point is 00:47:55 serving and i hit you with the ball and obviously you can't hit it back like i just pelt you with it then i get the point that's the ground though well no if i i'm aiming directly at you oh wait i'll serve no alpha serve i would have to hit the ground you're right so it have to be the follow-up shot i'd have to hit it in the box on the serve i just always thought that pelting the person with the ball would be easier than than like the vault that would be my strategy for tennis is just trying to inflict damage with the ball and yeah i feel like though if you're trying to hit them you're gonna have to hit hard enough so ball. Yeah, I feel like if you're trying to hit them, you're going to have to hit hard enough so that they can't react.
Starting point is 00:48:27 But if you miss, then it's definitely going out. It's a high risk, high reward, but I don't know if anyone in the tennis game has attempted this strategy. I don't know if this guy will play. It is. You either get the point or you don't, but isn't that every play?
Starting point is 00:48:41 You either win or you don't. We haven't covered that section of tennis yet in my classes, but I will definitely bring up strategies for hitting your opponent. Is it just you and an instructor? Are there other people there? How does this work? I took an initial
Starting point is 00:48:58 small class of three people. It was me, Emily, and then another lady. Then did that for a month two months maybe and then i we got up like a private tennis coach uh a because it seems safer and then b it's like it's you just get more time you know honestly and so emily and i we we take a private lesson with a with a dude uh shout out to brent tennis coach he's pretty fucking good uh and uh yeah it's just like an hour or yeah about an hour uh every week he tells us how not to do dumb shit and then i
Starting point is 00:49:34 play tennis probably three times a week with emily you know just go hit the ball make you like serve into a hula hoop oh no i haven't done that yet i haven't served into a have you done any foot exercises are you on like the ladder on the ground are you doing the sewing machine a hoop oh no i haven't done that yet i haven't served into a hoop have you done any foot exercises are you on like the ladder on the ground are you doing the sewing machine or working on your foot movement no we don't do that stuff we hit the ball a lot and we we practice rushing the net and like forearms and back arms tennis for a long time and volleys and continental grip versus you know wait and, you play tennis? I play tennis for a long time, but I'm just surprised.
Starting point is 00:50:08 No foot exercises at all. You're just hitting the ball. Well, he doesn't have straw ankles. No, it's not even straw ankles. It's foot movement. You got to have quick feet in tennis. You got to move the ball. Yeah, we do a lot of like side-to-side movement
Starting point is 00:50:19 and knowing like how to anticipate the ball. And like we do a lot of rotations and stuff, a lot of drills. But at no point did he use those terms. of my coaches i'm just curious was this sewing machine yeah the sewing machine and climbing the ladder no you lay the ladder down it's like a plastic ladder and you lay it down and you have to go through each rung between the rungs of it sounds like nfl training camp yeah it is it's sort of like a combine thing, but that was part of the thing when I played tennis that you do. So who brought the ladder?
Starting point is 00:50:49 The coach did. The instructor. What kind of ladder was it? It's not a real ladder. You couldn't climb. It's a very flimsy. It's a floppy ladder. You lay it on the ground.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Like a rope ladder. It wasn't like an A-frame. No, it was more like a plastic. It wasn't a rope ladder. It was more like a... What's another type of material that isn't rope? Almost like a Velcro ish type material, but not Velcro. A Velcro ladder like felt. Yeah, like more of a felty type thing.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Yeah, glass wasn't glass. That'd be horrifying. Oh, high risk. It seems dangerous. How'd you break your leg? I was playing tennis with a ladder. When you don't play it with it, it's part of the train.
Starting point is 00:51:29 It's like practicing footwork. You practice all aspects of your game. I think you're probably at an age, no disrespect to you, your footwork is probably what your footwork is. You're also not, you know, I'll take it. My footwork's fucking on point.
Starting point is 00:51:42 I don't know. Kick your ass in tennis, buddy. If we did the sewing machine, I would demolish you in the sewing machine. It is a complicated procedure. You got one foot in, one foot out. You got to go side to side. Can you describe it? I want to picture the sewing machine.
Starting point is 00:51:55 It's really hard to describe because it's hard to do. It's one of those things where when you try to learn it. Okay, so. You draw a diagram? No, I can't. How do I draw a diagram for physical? Here's the thing, Andrew. Whenever we ask you to draw something you're never ready to go yeah Well now but this is a complicated thing to draw this needs to go in the zine
Starting point is 00:52:13 So I'm gonna need you to figure out right well. Well. That's Gavin's drop this get Andrews tennis tips No, I'll give the tips Gavin's drawing we already gave that job to him So you put you go one foot in the first rung then the second foot in And then one way to the right side the sewing machine uses the ladder as well. Yeah, it's you have to go between the ladder That's why it's called the sewing machine. It's because like are you stitching? It's like you're stitching with your feet Okay, so one foot in other foot in then the first foot you had in goes out to the side Then the other foot goes out to the side foot you had in goes out to the side,
Starting point is 00:52:46 then the other foot goes out to the side, then the other foot goes into the next set of rungs, and then so on and so on until you complete the line. In, in, out, out, in, in, out, out. Yeah, exactly. It sounds like sideways hopscotch. I never played hopscotch. I don't know. What was, did you go to school?
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah, yeah. He was absent the day they covered hopscotch and teenage years. I played Red Bull and I played soccer. You go to school, your first day, you look at the ground, there's a hopscotch. Lesson one in being a school child. You just see they're everywhere.
Starting point is 00:53:18 If you look at a chessboard, it doesn't mean you know how to play. I've seen them. Oh my god! Wow. I think seen them. I just don't know the mechanics. Oh my god. Wow. I think you are conflating that buddy. There is no correlation between chess.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Oh my god. And hopscotch? My point is if you look at where the place is played the court of play doesn't tell you how the game is played
Starting point is 00:53:41 necessarily. I don't know the rules. I don't know how you move. You just have to watch like a 70 year old for one second and then you know why am i watching seven-year-olds play hopscotch there's no reason for me to do that because you're also seven no i'm playing soccer i'm playing red ball i don't have time for that that's not a different the it's that game that kids played where it has like a million different names where like you had i don't remember the rules exactly but you had to throw the ball and then catch it or if it hit you
Starting point is 00:54:09 or something dodgeball no it's not dodgeball you if you missed you yeah it was like wall ball i think that's another term for it you have to stand on the wall and well yeah you throw it's like a tennis ball you throw it at the wall if you screw up in some way you have to stand in front of the wall and you get pelted with the ball and then it just goes back to play until someone else has to oh i know you what you're describing to me is a made-up game called red ball where the kids stood you in front of a wall and pelted you with no no i was very rare i don't think you i don't think you were playing a sport i think you were being i think you were being bullied jeff if there was a Red Ball Hall of Fame,
Starting point is 00:54:46 I would be in it. I was never pelted once. I have no memories of being pelted. I was an exceptional Red Ball player. That was weird. Why did nobody had a follow-up to their own? I thought Jeff was going to talk. No, I'm just disappointed in the whole hopscotch thing.
Starting point is 00:55:03 What about it? I feel like if you just look at the ground and you see hopscotch, you know how to play it. I can't believe you compared it to chess. Can you imagine a show like Queen's Gambit, but about the best hopscotch players? It's like you don't teach a horse how to stand up. It just doesn't when it's born. The mama horse looks at it and says, stand up. And the horse is like, okay, it's
Starting point is 00:55:26 natural. I'll do it. That's hopscotch. I will say to you a thing, Jeff. I bet you I could blow your sewing machine time out of the water. We could do it with chalk. Today? Not today, because I'm still, my ankle's recovering. I have marathons to walk. I don't care about sewing machines and ladders
Starting point is 00:55:42 and climbing the sewing machine and whatever that is. You said you had exceptional footwork. I do. I feel confident in my footwork, but I would rather show it to you by playing you in tennis. Are you prepared to get pelted by balls? I'm prepared to dodge them and win those points. Andrew, I couldn't
Starting point is 00:55:58 beat you in tennis, but I would wipe the floor with you in a sewing machine. There's no way you could beat me in a sewing machine. Alright, we're having a three-man sewing machine tournament that's the ladder the next time that is the eric just posted the ladder in the discord that's what you work with agility ladder oh so specifically for this one purpose well it's i mean there are all sorts of different exercises you can do using that ladder but it was uh the sewing machine was always my favorite i was really good at the sewing machine do you see what's right above the ladder is a little girl in red shoes playing hopscotch
Starting point is 00:56:29 i'm gonna let you in on a secret nobody taught her how to play hopscotch she figured it out no all right andrea how do you in your head how do you play hopscotch well i need to see the board first of all i'm kind of seeing i Support! I need to evaluate. So you have to, one foot in the one hole, two foot, like when there's two, you have to put both feet in those holes, I'm guessing. And then there's numbers. I'm not sure how the numbers correlate. Okay, I'm looking at this now.
Starting point is 00:56:57 One, two, three, four. So I'm guessing you just have to hop in the sequence of the numbers. So one foot, one foot, two feet, one foot one foot two feet one foot two feet one foot is that hot there's variance too like sometimes you gotta chuck shit and land them in the numbers you throw like a beanbag at a number and then you have to jump into that number or a stone if you're poor you don't have beanbag money i just used to pick up a nearby rock well where do you have... In Gavin's defense, it's not even a money thing.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Very rarely in life do I ever have beanbags. I can't think of a time I've had one. I think that's a great place to end it right there. I imagine you'd be good at hacky sack and stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I was never good at hacky sack. The kid's got glass ankles. He can't do anything ankle related. No, the sewing machiney sack the kid's got glass ankles he can't do anything ankle related no the sewing machine though he can he's he's talking a good sewing machine game but i bet you if you put him out there it'd be like fucking samuel l jackson in unbreakable andrew realistically do you like actually not even for content do you think you could beat me a sewing machine not even for yeah i couldn't be more certain absolutely how much how much you want to put on
Starting point is 00:58:10 this i'd put whatever you wanted on it because sewing machine was my shit i was always exceptionally good at sewing machine what if we put 300 on a sewing machine sure that works for me it's the once again it's like my back and my tall thing you would think i'm way taller like it doesn't i on the sewing machine you would think i was usain bolt for how quick i would clear that that ladder when we do sewing machine like there'd be kids that were faster than i was and i would catch them every time i'd have to slow down for them i was dominant on the sewing machine i just can't imagine it i'm sure that's what it's called. I don't think Eric can even find it.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I think Eric thinks that I've made this up. I'm almost 100% sure it was called the sewing machine. Well, it might have been just what your coach called it. It could be. That'd be weird if they invented their own name for the thing. That'd be strange. This was a podcast about absolutely nothing today. They're all about nothing.
Starting point is 00:59:04 One question quickly before we close this, I guess. Yeah. When you throw the beanbag onto the hopscotch, what does that mean? If I remember correctly, you had to throw sequentially. Yeah. And if you missed, you'd still have to hit that number. Oh, so it's like cornhole with hopping. But you still have to go the length of the hopscotch.
Starting point is 00:59:24 And you could draw them. You could draw some pretty wicked-looking ones. So it's just you have to throw it and then jump there. Okay, I got it. I think it's like whoever gets to 10 first wins or something, right? Well, both of these boards say 8, Jeff. As the hopscotch enthusiast, it seems like 8 is the standard. But if a bishop plays, he can only play diagonally.
Starting point is 00:59:44 That's true. One of the rules of hopscotch. Yeah, I get it. It's a chess joke. Very funny. It's a very funny chess joke. We got to stop this. Yeah, I think we're good.
Starting point is 00:59:55 It was a good episode. This one wore me out. I think you're tired from the last one. Maybe we shouldn't have done two. No, I think it's fine. I think Andrew's... Andrew...
Starting point is 01:00:03 He has a thing where he like he makes my brain tired sometimes no it was the bat thing i think you're fatigued from learning about the bat thing previous episode it's possible that i was a little on edge from the bat stuff but i think it it felt like it really went downhill for me when you flustered me with the teenage stuff i would be interested to see in the comments like you said if other people are blown away i don't think there's going to be the revelation no i don't think based on this i'm going to say maybe 10 of people that hear this it's got to be less i can't probably would be yeah it's probably like five percent if it was higher if it was higher than one percent i would be shocked somebody definitely going to have this realization like I did.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And don't feel stupid. You say there are some people out there who have voted. Oh, 100%. People that I would consider smart haven't made this realization. It was surprising to them. It's just sometimes you don't think about that stuff. I don't think you have to.
Starting point is 01:01:02 I think some stuff's just intrinsic knowledge that you gain through, I don't know, osmosis. Just through existence. I mean, I didn't. I don't know what that is. Like, nobody teaches you how to breathe or blink your eyes. You just kind of know. But if you think about it, it gets a little
Starting point is 01:01:20 weird. It does. You're right about that. Don't ever become self-aware of those things. Don't ever don't ever don't ever become self-aware of don't ever think about blinking or breathing because it'll ruin about 30 minutes of your life when you try to get back to equalize and get back to normal someone at school once told me that if you don't push your eyes in like once a month they start to come forward and eventually fall out did you push your eyes in once a month for like 10 years yeah i just like closed my eyes and just like lightly push on him just to make sure.
Starting point is 01:01:48 I didn't know if it was true, but I didn't want to find out. What is the weirdest thing you can do? You have like a weird skill, like as far as I guess anything. Weird skill. Weird skill, like a distinct skill. I don't have the skill to end podcasts, that's for sure. Like a distinct skill. I don't have the skill to end podcasts, that's for sure. I can put a chain through my nose and out my mouth
Starting point is 01:02:07 and only throw up 11 times doing it. I can hold one leg and jump over it. I can do that thing where you walk like a crab, like you hang your legs over your arms. Okay. Not really skills, just things that I've tried and I haven't hurt myself doing yet i'm sure anyone could do those things how about you andrew i can wiggle my ears i can i can wiggle
Starting point is 01:02:32 my ears as well can you yeah great yeah no wonder we're friends i've been looking for an ear wiggler my entire life and i never i didn't expect it would be god didn't give me ears like this without uh without the power to use them. How much height do you think? We should do an ear combine. How much elevation can you get without moving any other part of your body? Your ears go up and down? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I was thinking like side to side. No, I can pull them back. I can do either. Wow, you might have more. Jeff might be a better ear mover than I am. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. I don't want to. I'm not trying to like,
Starting point is 01:03:07 I'm not trying to flex on you. I'm just saying I can also, I'm not confident in the way you're confident with sewing machines. I'm just saying I can win layers. Can you do one up, one down? No. No, I'm doing both right now.
Starting point is 01:03:18 I think I can do the right one up. I don't think I can do the left one independently, but I can do the right one if that makes sense. I can't do it. I guess I just have standard ears standard ears Now we're just all wiggling our fucking ears quietly. I'm wearing headphones. I don't I'm so I I'm doing it through the headphones Yes, what you shit me. No I can move like the inner ear to
Starting point is 01:03:41 Your canal yeah, like I move I. I got a little canal moving. What does that mean? Turning his ears inside out. I know what I can do that a lot of people don't seem to be able to do but is a totally real thing. I can turn my nose off. What does that mean? I can choose not to smell.
Starting point is 01:04:01 That's why I don't understand when people's stuff smells bad and people freak out about it. I can just turn my nose off and not smell. And I've Googled it and a lot of people can do it. A lot of people can do it. The people that know how to turn their nose off are surprised. I don't know how to explain it
Starting point is 01:04:14 and don't know how other people can't do it. Are you just not breathing through your nose? No, no, no. It's more than that. There's like little flaps. I can feel them in the back of my nose and you just move a muscle and they like freeze up. And then no smell gets through.
Starting point is 01:04:29 What are you talking about? I don't, I think you're a maniac. Are you a fucking alien from the faculty? What are you talking about? You can close your nose? End. End the show. We can't end.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Do you hear what he just said? You have to end the show. He has a nose switch. What are you talking about? This is insane. He's just talking about not breathing through his nose for a short period of time. No, no, no, it's not.
Starting point is 01:04:49 It's different. It's different. Right, no, he said that it's different. I understand that he said it was different. But wait, okay, with your nose off, could you take a breath through your nose and still smell nothing? I don't know. I don't know. I've never tried that. It's because he's just not breathing through his fucking nose. Yeah, the particles land on shit inside your nose.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Have you seen the faculty, Jeff? You must have seen the faculty. Yeah, I saw it here in Austin. Is it like that? Is it like that level of nose control? Is that what we're talking for blockage? I don't remember the nose control part of the faculty. I just know that if something smells bad, and it's not just turning,
Starting point is 01:05:26 it's not just not smelling because people swear to me that they can still smell something even if they just don't breathe through their nose. So you've got smell doors. I got smell doors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got like barn doors on a camera. I have like smell doors.
Starting point is 01:05:38 I don't think you do have that. I do, I do, I do. And I guarantee you more people in the comments will agree that they also have smell doors than people that don't understand how teenage years work. I think if they're at the back of your nose, that's behind all of your receptors anyway, though. I don't know, dude. I'm just telling you, I can turn off smell and then I don't smell anymore. The problem, too, now is if I search for it, everything's COVID-related because of the goddamn COVID thing. Everything's COVID related because of the goddamn COVID thing.
Starting point is 01:06:05 But before that, there was a whole thread. I've read lots of forum threads and stuff from other people that are like, hey, how come I do this and people are freaked out by it and say they don't know what I'm talking about? Am I the only one that can do this? And then about one in every five or six people will be like, oh, no, I can totally do that too. It always weirds me out when people don't understand that you can do it and people don't know how to do it. And none of us know how to tell you how to do it. It's and people don't know how to do it and none of us know how to tell you how to do it. It's just something that you know how to do. Of course the guy with
Starting point is 01:06:28 some of the worst smelling farts on the planet is also the guy that can turn off his nose. It's cool. I appreciate that. Thank you. I can turn this podcast off too. Can you end this podcast in the same way? Turn the fucking podcast off. Alright, this has been another episode of F*** Face. I believe it was episode 28?
Starting point is 01:06:44 Is that right? Or 29? No, we did 28 last time. Alright, this has been another episode of F*** Face. I believe it was episode 28? Is that right? Or 29? No, we did 28 last time. 29. This has been episode 29 of the F*** Face podcast. I hope you liked it. I hope you're one of the people out there who understands how age works and probably
Starting point is 01:07:01 if you are, you also know how to play hopscotch. I never made the connection. I never made the connection. I get it now. I hope you make the connection to the like and subscribe button. I hope you make the connection to five stars. And boy, gee, we really appreciate it that you listen to it. And thanks for... It's like saying I didn't understand the connection between 22 and 23.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I don't see how that connects at all i was i was 27 years old before i realized wait a minute this shit's sequential i i always knew that that's obvious but it's a it's a pronunciation of the numbers to a very specific set of years it's not just a it's not just numbers it's a word thing and how they are applied to those numbers it's literally numbers no but it's the pronunciation of those numbers the only numbers you as the audience need to be worried about are the numbers five out of five stars or ten out of ten stars or however many fucking stars it is where do the stars come from why don't we always ask people to rate us with the stars?
Starting point is 01:08:06 Is that like an Apple thing or a Spotify thing? I guess it's Apple. I don't know. I thought you actually meant like where do stars come from. It's way before Apple. Yeah, it is way before Apple, but this Apple is the one that we're like relying on. eBay. eBay. Give us five eBay stars and thank you
Starting point is 01:08:21 for listening and find us on Instagram F*** Face Pod. We'll see you next time. How many? Goodbye. Would you shut up? Shut up. Shut up. By our zine.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Shut up. By the zine. 6 p.m. I still don't know what it is. The sewing machine. I don't understand. I keep looking it up and i don't i can't i'm looking up sewing machine exercises i'm looking up sewing machine like contests i'm looking up sewing machine like i like pe i got nothing dude i think wait i think i uh let me look let me look at that i'm trying to find a video of it. All of these are like 10 minutes long and it's just like, I don't want that. I'm just looking for one.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I don't need to know what I give me any minutes. I have zero minutes right now. Google's not helping me. Dude. I don't like, it has to be called like, it's not, that's not the name of it. That's not the name of anything. It is. It's, I think it's the step shuffle, but this guy has terrible form.
Starting point is 01:09:24 It's cheating. Dude, I'm searching step shuffle sewing machine, and it's just goddamn fucking sewing machines. But it's with the ladder? That's with the ladder. Do you think your tennis instructor in your tennis class created something, some piece of busy work for you
Starting point is 01:09:43 to do off on the side while everybody else played tennis? Like, no, Andrew, you're the king of the sewing machine. Keep it up. See if you can beat your time. I bet you can beat your time. Anyway, kids, we're gonna go serve. If you say it's the icky shuffle, I'm gonna be real mad. Step shuffle.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Is it this? I'll show... Why do we have a disclaimer for a fucking... What are we doing? I'm watching fucking what are we doing well the disclaimer is hey this isn't fake or invented by a man on a podcast this is a real thing you just think it's fake
Starting point is 01:10:14 look at what that first guy's doing I don't know it is not the only shuffle that's a great shuffle the daintiest shuffle which video is this No, it is not the only shuffle. That's a great shuffle, though. Daintiest shuffle. Which video is this? Both feed in before you can move.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Look at the first one. Oh, my God. Andrew, you can link with a timestamp. That takes work, man. I with a timestamp. Yeah, well, that takes work, man. I'm watching shuffle videos. Figure it out. It's the second exercise he does. It's early in the video.
Starting point is 01:10:55 It's the second exercise. It's the two feet in? No, it's not two feet in. Crossover shuffle? Crossover shuffle. It's like the crossover shuffle. Give us a time. Oh, that actually looks shuffle. It's like the crossover shuffle. Give us a tongue twister. That actually looks difficult. He's cheating.
Starting point is 01:11:07 You're supposed to have both feet in before you move the other one. He's only ever putting one in. That's what I'm saying. A proper sewing machine, both feet in before the other one in. You keep calling it a sewing machine. Because that's what it's called. It's not what it's called. It's what it was called.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Definitely it's what it was called. No, it's what it's not what it's called what it was called it's what it was called no it's what somebody you know called it what am i supposed to call it because he's got bad sewing machine form if that is what the sewing machine is we're not even recording this what's going on this is bad in the episode it's 100% better than the episode. Which one is it? Is it the crossover step? It's the third one, the step shuffle, Jeff. It's the second thing he does. You're describing... This is the icky shuffle.
Starting point is 01:11:55 No, it's not the icky shuffle. No, it's not. It fucking is. I saw the icky shuffle. We need to record. Where is the icky shuffle? Look at this woman break it down slowly. Okay. Because I looked up icky shuffle? Look at this woman break it down slowly. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Because I looked up icky shuffle and it wasn't anything like what I was saying. Look at the way she does it in 25 seconds. It's two feet in and then she steps out. No, but she's not. She never has both in. Yes, she does.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Yes, she does. I guess it is the icky shuffle, but not all icky shuffles. Yes, she does. Yes, she does. There's a brief moment. You know what it is? Yeah, I guess it is the icky shuffle, but not all. Oh, really interesting. Really fucking interesting how it's not the icky shuffle. And then it's the icky shuffle. I looked at a video. I'll post. You know what?
Starting point is 01:12:34 Fuck you. I'll go to the icky shuffle video I saw. But you know what's really interesting about this? None of them are called sewing machine. It's true. It's repeating back what I was told it was called. Okay. You know what? This interesting about this? None of them are called sewing machine. It's true. It's repeating back what I was told it was called. Okay, you know what? This isn't even better.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Eric, your bullshit icky shuffle video. This is a person that knows how to sewing machine. That they do two feet in. This is a good one. The one I just posted, that's some good sewing machine. Bam, bam, bam. It's so fast. But it's called the icky shuffle. But that's not what I call it. That's what I was taught sewing machine uh bam bam bam so fast the icky shuffle but that's not what i call it that's what i was taught sewing machine this is jeff do something jeff do anything i don't know what to
Starting point is 01:13:13 say that it's the icky shuffle it's the icky fucking shuffle and it's i don't know why you called it the sewing machine relentlessly what i've been told it was right but then when we figured out that that's not what it was called you just keep saying that's what it's called because that's what i was taught it as and also there are things that have multiple names right i agree with you that sometimes things have multiple names this is apparently not one of those where did my tennis instructor find the other names for it where did my tennis instructor find the other name for it? Where did my tennis instructor get sewing machines from then?
Starting point is 01:13:48 They just came up with that? I highly doubt it. They all called it sewing machines. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl? See this other icky shuffle. It's a weak-ass icky shuffle, the one you posted.
Starting point is 01:14:06 So, Andrew, are we doing... You said I never had a goldfish. Are we doing icky shuffle for $300? Yeah, I mean, if that's what we're going to call it, I guess. Yeah, I think I'm really good at the sewing machine. What if we do the icky shuffle while holding a sewing machine each? That seems difficult. That's so's stupid.
Starting point is 01:14:26 How did the podcast get better when we stopped? Yeah, right. No kidding. It stopped when we stopped. Oh, no. It got better because we just proved Andrew wrong. That's all it took. You just had to understand and then go, well, that's not right.
Starting point is 01:14:40 And then he went, no, but he's wrong. Goddamn, dude. Okay, it's the Icky Shuffle. I didn't know that. I wasn't trying you shuffle i just i didn't know that i wasn't trying to be difficult i didn't know that you're saying it's not that the before i'm not hung up on the before andrew i need you to understand i need to be like crystal clear i'm not hung up on no i get what you're saying eric if you've called something one way i are like 16 years of your life it's not an immediate flip
Starting point is 01:15:05 I'm going to need time I can promise you Eric I'm going to make a real effort I'm going to really try hard to start saying icky shuffle for you because it clearly means a lot it's kind of tough for me right now so I'm working towards that point so I'm going to need you to have some space for me to say
Starting point is 01:15:21 sewing machine and I know I'm not giving you absolutely not I'm not giving you any space for sewing machine in the face of evidence you just went some things have two names yeah because red butt the name and then my name yeah
Starting point is 01:15:35 right the name that everyone knows and a thing I made up I don't okay I guess there's no other use as a sewing machine and if that's true then that it was just my thing i just need some spacer i would love to know what other other fake names you have for shit i don't think i have any other fake names for any other thing oh god i can't find a single instance where it's also called the sewing machine. I've been Googling the entire time. You got a tennis message boards.
Starting point is 01:16:08 I could be a tennis thing. We got a tennis message. Is it maybe a Russian tennis thing? It's definitely not a Russian tennis thing. A sewing machine goes up and down. Yeah, but it's stitches. It's like not a Russian tennis thing. A sewing machine goes up and down. Yeah, but it's stitches. It's like a stitch pattern. I think if we had a sewing machine contest
Starting point is 01:16:37 where we... I'm sorry. An icky shuffle contest. I think you would end up like icky woods. You would be on the list for the rest of your life. You are. It is one of my, you would suffer a career enduring ankle injury.
Starting point is 01:16:54 No, you would be shocked how, how good I would do at the icky shop. I don't think I would. I was, I think I would be shocked at how quickly we ended up in the emergency room. I think I'd be like immediately, quickly we ended up in the emergency room. I think I'd be like, immediately? Not even five minutes in?
Starting point is 01:17:09 No, you are discrediting the amount of icky shuffle work I had done. I've never heard of the icky shuffle. I will easily do it faster than you. I just don't know what the fuck and call it now. It's like Voldemort. I'm scared to say anything. the fucking call it now it's like voldemort i'm scared to say anything beat you in the foot race thing we're doing that's not really a race but involves feet going in and out of a ladder we may or may not have oh now i'm imagining voldemort do it
Starting point is 01:17:37 is it funny if voldemort like voldemort's just a guy. Why is that a thing to... He's so much more than just a guy. He's just a great, like, faced guy with no nose. He's got no nose, so you can't break it. You know what I mean? The unbreakable nose. The unbreakable nose. That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:17:58 A lot of parallels here. Can we go now? Yeah, I'm gonna go away now. I'm exhausted. I feel like I got in a fight. That was the most... First episode, awesome. That was the most exhausting thing
Starting point is 01:18:12 I've been a part of in a while. Should we do another outro right now? An outro to the extra material? Nah, I didn't... For what? I'm just asking. Absolutely not. Just asking. Absolutely not. Just ask him.
Starting point is 01:18:29 I don't even know what I'm going to have for dinner tonight. And I'm sitting in a dark room lit by computer screens and I'm hungry. Yeah, the sun went down. Oh, that's a great question. What's everybody going to do for dinner? Maybe I'll get some ideas. Andrew, what are you eating for dinner tonight? I don't, you know, it's a good call.
Starting point is 01:18:48 I live next to so many restaurants. Maybe Greek. Maybe get Greek or Indian. Maybe like a... Now, are you going to risk your ankles to go out and get it? Or are you just going to have something? No, no, I'm like 90%.
Starting point is 01:19:03 My ankles are almost good. Gavin, what are you going to have for dinner tonight? Pasta. I've got some ground beef, so I'm going to have some soft tacos. Eric? I think I made some crockpot chicken, so I'm going to make chicken enchiladas. Alright. Nick? I was
Starting point is 01:19:20 snacking on chips and queso during the episode, so I'm good. That was the word I was looking for earlier. Is queso a dip, like a condiment? Yeah. So Nick, you didn't end up hungry and alone in the dark? Yeah, just the rest of us.
Starting point is 01:19:35 No, I'm in the dark. I just ate queso in the dark. How are we all... I'm also in the dark. Because when this started, the light out, and then we talked about an icky shuffle
Starting point is 01:19:49 for 40 minutes. Can we just put this argument out instead of the episode we made? No kidding. Just do this. Put it out first. That was a real face this episode. Here's some bonus content, idiots.
Starting point is 01:20:06 So my options are chips and queso soft hot options jake i'm if i eat off you guys chicken enchiladas green what if i if i eat based off what you guys are eating oh that's not what i thought you said um eat off of you yeah or if i physically eat off of your body just go get go get a slice of pizza go to home slice go get the sandwich from home slice dude that's what i'm gonna get for dinner tonight i'm gonna get home slice the meatball sub from home yeah it's fucking great there you go probably fucking good you're welcome bud thank you man i appreciate that yeah no problem it's just okay i think it's fucking great you're a prick okay. Okay, bye. Bye. I feel like Firehouse is better. You feel like Firehouse subs is better than the fucking subs? Meeple?
Starting point is 01:20:50 Meeple for Meeple? Yeah. Fuck my... Come... All right. You live about four miles. Come over here and suck my dick right now. Come over and get on your little bike or get your girlfriend to drive you and come over
Starting point is 01:21:03 and suck my fucking dick. I'll get you right home. Okay. Yeah. I don't think I've ever had a Meeple. get on your little bike or get your girlfriend to drive you and come over and suck my fucking dick. I'll give you a ride home. Okay. I don't think I've ever had a meatball. I'm out. I'm gone. I'm leaving. I'm leaving. Goodbye. Goodbye, everyone. I can't do it. Bye.
Starting point is 01:21:16 I gotta go, too. What the hell?

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