F**kface - Episode 1 of Season 2 // ansack [41]

Episode Date: March 10, 2021

Geoff, Gavin, and Andrew talk about Eric not keeping everyone in line, they finally get in to the Raymond Somer stuff, and Geoff's new porta potty. Sponsored by: ExpressVPN (http://expressvpn.com/face) and Honey (http://joinhoney.com/face) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I should have just fucking missed this one too. Like, what a joke. Are you fucking kidding me? I'm just gonna start recording. Are you kidding me? No, what do you mean? I'm not the fucking sound guy You guys are saying I'm low so I twisted the knob a little bit. Single week. Okay, it's 3.04. This has got to be the episode now. It's 3.04. Oh, yeah, we're in the episode. Last week I talked about moving on time to be 3.01 and it's still not enough. I was here at 3 anyway, just to be safe. I assumed that because we recorded an episode two days ago at this point,

Andrew's shit would still be functioning. Absolutely not. Impossible. Well, apparently it was never fixed. That's not my fault. I can't hear what I sound like. It's based on you. I was here 30 minutes early.

You can see your waveforms in audacity that's how you yeah i don't i don't know how to read waveforms you know it's not language it's not you just look you look yeah but i don't know see now i feel like i'm coming in super hot but before i'm too low i don't know what to do i don't know how to make people it's the salad cream all over again i'm trying to make you happy i don't know how to do it. I do one thing that's wrong. I do another thing that's wrong. What do you want from me? And we've just had to let Eric know that not only did we not talk about your name, Andrew,

we didn't even talk about the three-letter acronym. As a matter of fact, Eric, I'm glad you're here. Andrew and Gavin and I, we'd like to talk to you. This comes from a place of love, but I think we need to have a bit of an intervention in your inability to keep us on track because we have now blown two very important things that absolutely should have been talked about. And as the producer,

I feel like it's on you to keep us on track. Hang on. Jeff is saying me keeping you on track and Gavin is saying attendance. They go hand in hand. They're both. They're the same thing. You can't keep us on track if there's no attendance.

Do you? It's really. Nobody listening to this knows how fucking hard it was to schedule any of the fucking shows for this week. And it still wasn't set by the time this was all happening.

Like this was like, oh, are we recording at 5 a.m.? No. Why would we do that? Okay, well, I'll be there at 5 a.m. Why are we doing this? Nobody was at the 5 a.m. record again this morning. Once again, just saying, nobody was there. Wait, what?

Why? Stop, Andrew. It was a perfect attendance by me. I was there every time. Nobody else was there. That's no one else. That's not even... A part of your intervention also, Eric,

is reigning Andrew's attendance thing in a little bit. He keeps showing up at 5 a.m. for no reason. He's over-attending. I have said over and over that we're not doing anything at that time. Don't, like, no. There's nothing. It does not matter.

It doesn't matter. Andrew, are you tired again because of that did you sleep in the tub and get a shit night no no no i didn't no no i didn't sleep in the tub i'm good you literally asked us last night if we're doing the 5 a.m thing i said only if you live in japan and i thought that was a pretty clear answer yeah oh okay well do we want to be serious about this or what do we want to do here with this? I still don't have a porta potty, by the way. Yeah, okay. Well, we can talk about that as well.

The 5 a.m. thing, obviously ridiculous. I was just trying to get somebody else. Talk about the SMH. Talk about Raymond Sommar. What are you talking about? This is insane. Well, you gave away SMH. Well, you gave it away.

It was SMH. Boy, you gave it away. It was SMH. Boy, we really, we really, I was just having a conversation with Gavin earlier, right before this podcast started, where I said, you know, I was listening to this week's episode and then next week's, and I don't think we ever got back around

and said what that three-letter acronym or those three letters were, and Eric blew his fucking top. Yeah, he went red and steam came out and i i think what we need is a brief previously on face that is cut together just for us to listen to right before we start because we are utterly useless the only stuff we hear we we end up catching up on the ones two weeks ago because that's the ones that usually just come out while we record so we're always like in this weird week gap hole

where we don't address anything from the previous episode. It's funny, a couple episodes ago, I said, at this point now, I said, we're as dumb as we'll ever be about our own show. And I felt pretty safe saying that. We knocked that out of the park instantly. We are so much dumber about our show than we were two weeks ago.

When you said that you recorded on an off day at a time where I had to pull teeth to get an answer on anyone's gonna show up, and you didn't talk about the stuff that was the whole reason for the episode, I, like, I lost.

I stood up. Like, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do I don't know what to do what am I supposed to do talk about it this is insane I gotta be honest with you I I agree that's why I wish you would have been there

that was even the whole point I was like I don't want to do it on Tuesday because Eric won't be there and Nick can't be there because I don't trust us anymore. Is it dumber that I thought about it and didn't bring it up that I was waiting for the episode to come out before we talked about it? I'm so mad.

I was like, it never even occurred to me to bring it up. Now the doorbell's ringing. This better not be a goddamn port-a-potty. I don't think it would be there that soon. Ericic i'm scrolling back through the slack where you're trying to really working hard to nail down a time for us to do this additional episode that we sprung on you and it just goes in the worst circles at one point you

just wrote this sucks and then you and then like 18 lines down you you wrote, I hate this. You could tell just by that, the direction that was going. Because Jeff wouldn't agree to anything. No, at all. He put maybe, maybe attending. What does that do for us? I, as a joke, said 5 a.m. Because you said early. Andrew then ran with 5 a.m.

He was obsessed with getting up at 5. It went nowhere. I can't believe it And it's like that So when it's like yeah wrangle us What does that how How Well I feel like if you were in the recording

If we were able to schedule at a time Where you and Nick were available We definitely would have talked about SMH By the way it was SMH I feel like we've mentioned that at this point Yeah I don't know I may have fought against that in my head it made more sense to wait until they responded the audience heard it and then they all got it so many of them got it why why would it make more sense for the audience why and then so you wait two weeks why does that make more sense yeah well

because the whole point of the thing was if people could figure out if if what it was or not but what does that change for the audience but what but well why would we talk about it again before that because it's a week to week podcast not an every two week podcast i don't think it's worth talking about three weeks in a row though i think it's worth waiting you just have to talk about it one time you just have to talk about it on the next one no under your scenario we would talk about it the second week we'd be like oh this is what the word was and then they would react and then i'd talk about it again on the third week being like i guess i'm a pretty good actor i didn't think i did that great almost everyone seemed to got it yeah i feel like i was good in my performance so then we have three weeks of we haven't overtly discussed that we had like a 15

minute argument on which episode we would reveal the results to a vote that we took oh my god it in the episode it was already revealed immediately before the argument yeah but but if that wasn't we would have it would have been edited we are so stupid yeah i just don't know if we would have been edited. We are so stupid. Yeah, I just don't know if we... Would it have been edited? Or did we just put it out? No, I think the whole point was that if we... I mean, it was a stupid thing, but... At the time, the only people on the planet who didn't know was me and Jeff. And you, I guess, as well.

But we were arguing on behalf of the audience, like, oh, they won't like it if we leave a man. already do that but that might have been the dumbest moment and i'd like to be able to say oh you know i was talking about our reactions to it they want to hear our reactions nope no i didn't even think of it i just didn't know myself and i did i thought no one else no it's same i was listening to the episode and and I got to that point, and I thought, wait a minute, and I immediately texted Gavin, and I said, correct me if I'm wrong, but are we the dumbest people ever? And Gavin was like, motherfucker.

It didn't make any sense, but I feel like it would have been edited. How fucking stupid are we? I mean, we're really dumb. Hey, did, so I was gone for a second dealing with a door-to-door salesman, unfortunately. Thank God it wasn't a port-a-potty. What'd I miss? Did we, did you guys cover the three letters in the Raymond Sommar thing yet?

Yeah, I mean, Eric already said it, but yeah, it was SMH. The audience did get it. Yeah, a lot of them did. They were smart. It was more, Jeff, do you think it's worth talking three weeks in a row about, though? That bit?

About what? Well, I don't want to, I don't think we need to dissect it and talk about like uh talk about it in depth wait why would it be three weeks in a row it doesn't it doesn't matter like it doesn't matter no no it would be three weeks because we would have if we would have mentioned it the one we recorded last that's the next episode to come out i believe we'd be second if we did though if we did though that'd be two and then i talk about it again on this one why would you talk about it a third time because about my performance about how people got

it because we didn't know until this recording that people got it they did so it would be ended up being talked about three times i think that's too much this is currently being talked about twice this one started in in such a mess that I don't think it had an intro again. No, it didn't. Hello and welcome to F*** Face episode 41, I want to say. My name is Jeff Ramsey and with me as always, Gavin Free and International Man of Mystery, sir. I asked you what to call you last week.

You never gave me a clear answer. I'll ask you again. Do we refer to you as Andrew? Do we refer to you as Raymond? And either way, why? Call me whatever you want to call you last week. You never gave me a clear answer. I'll ask you again. Do we refer to you as Andrew? Do we refer to you as Raymond? And either way, call me whatever you want to call. I'm open to either. It's whatever you prefer. Are we going to get into this now?

Are we going to wait? Let's do it. Who knows? We might we might not get to it. You absolutely cannot wait to talk. Are you sure? That's that is some excellent producing by Eric's part. Good job, Eric.

OK, well, how do how do we want it? Do we just want the whole story? I guess, first of all, I should say that I'm going to tell this story. I'm going to explain what happened. I don't really care if people believe me or not. Also, not really asking for people to investigate deeply into this. It's just I'm going to tell the story. You want to believe it?

You can believe it. If you don't, that's fine. Do whatever you want to do with it. But my real name is raymond somer and i've gone by that name between the ages of one to ten and i didn't change until andrew pantin until a little after i met you guys and it was a panic move because i did so wait you weren't named until you were one well whatever you know i'm talking here so birth is a 10 is what you're trying. Birth to 10, yeah.

That wasn't a name change. I don't have a name, not a double, but yeah, that was my name. It's like the idea if you got born a year old. So let me ask you a question. Was, is it possible that at some point in time the Vancouver police were looking for Raymond Sommere, the Vancouver child kicker. And that's why you changed your name.

No, I mean, no comment to that. Maybe possibly I don't. I will now. You know what? Actually, I'm going to go on the record and say I've never kicked the child. I just like that to be known. It has never happened. I considered it.

It got close once, but I've never kicked the kid. So to that point, if you're a child or at some point if you are listening to this podcast and at some point you were a child or you are indeed still a child and you've been kicked by andrew pantin we'd like to hear your story you're not going to hear anybody nobody there's no i've never kicked the kid but so for the name thing i'm ray i'm raymond sumer and then i i got on xbox I was 11, and my gamer tag was Ansac something. It was, I think-

What does that mean? It was Ansac13. No, I changed it every year because I was super cool. I started as Ansac11. I don't know what it meant. It was a nickname I got as a kid when I was like five or six, maybe, and it just stuck. So as a small five-year--old six-year-old kid called Raymond your nickname was Anzac yep no idea what it meant one person gave it to me it's what they

called me so it was sort of like my my name thing and then it sucked because like I was okay so I loved Halo so much like that was my thing growing up and I was so excited to get Xbox Live and my cousin also really liked it and we're we're talking about how like you have to have a gamer tag online and he wanted us to use our gamer tag name so we'd get comfortable saying it online except his was just Bob Slayer and his name wasn't

Bob so I just called him Bob and I had to be called Ansack which was a really shitty exchange ridiculous name so I was Ansack for a long time and uh my obsession was halo and i loved bungie my goal this is sort of just a pivot to how i met you guys as well so i i watched red verse blue like season three maybe a few episodes and i i enjoyed it because i loved halo stuff and then it just kind of was something i didn't think about and then years

pass i love halo 2 there is a bonus disc. I had the collector's edition and there's a collector, like a B-roll on that disc, like a documentary of making the game. And my goal was to play with somebody from Bungie. So I wrote down the names on the B-roll. Most of them didn't work. I found one that worked. I sent a random friend request to somebody. It was just the shortest name of the most recently played to that person they sent me an invite later i'm freaking out i don't know what to do i joined the game they say hey i'd never accept like random front requests who are you i'm like 13 maybe at this time 12 i completely panic i lie and i just tell them yeah we played a game before and you

seem cool. So I sent you a request. That was not at all like I just saw that there was a bungee connected thing through the disc. Smooth. Yeah. That person turned out to be Nico. You like did all the music for Edwards Blue. No shit.

Yeah. So it's a complete, complete accident. And then he mentioned something about his boss just signed on. And I asked, like, oh, that's weird. As a kid, I thought it was strange to have your boss as a friend on Xbox he's like yeah I do the music for Red vs Blue I was like oh that's awesome because I had a vague awareness of it but I didn't really know anything about it and that's what got me back into the community then I became good friends with Nico and we played games a lot then I met Luke McKay through him who used to do the comic we became friends and then Griffball came out and it's around this time

that like my fandom for Rooster T stuff in general increased and I made this super embarrassing just fan map just real quick before you go any further. If you're listening to this and you're not sure what Griffball or that is red versus blue obviously cartoon that we filmed

in a video game called Halo within Halo. You could make your own game types. And we created one called Griffball. Gavin actually did. I did not. Gavin and Bernie did. That ended up becoming an official game type in Halo. And so that's what Andrew's referring to. Yes. So it was sort of before that time, though, I was friends with Nico and Luke, and I made this map that was super embarrassing as Anzac. They met me as Anzac. When you made a map, it was connected to your profile. And I was as I started meeting more people in the community, I was so embarrassed by it. I was like, I just I can't figure out

how to delete this. I'm just going to change my name. So it's not listed as me as the creator of this thing that I'm embarrassed of. And that's where Andrew Panton came from. Panton was the last name of somebody I went to school with. And Andrew was just a name of a family member. So I flipped it to Andrew Panton at that point, just kind of had a vague connection with people. But then Griffball came out and I ended up being like one of the better Griffball players. And Luke McKay asked me to be in a tournament that you guys are running. And then because I was one of the better players, I ended up on Bernie's team. And then we started playing games a lot became good friends and then through that I think was at the time you're doing

the 10,000 gamer score thing Jeff mm-hmm yeah you and our buddies then at that point no I met you around that time because I think Bernie was trying to mess with you and he's talking to me about different ways I'm just assuming that's how that came up and he was talking to me about it and I think he talked to you about it and so then you messaged me at around that time. So then we became friends for that. Anyway, I guess the point is that I didn't mean to meet any of you people. I was just trying to play with Bungie. And then I ended up here. It was a total accident. So then the Twitter account. So I became friends with all of you, Jeff and Gavin, and we would talk on aim a lot. And then I went through this thing.

I forgot my password. So it happened for like six or seven months. I couldn't remember my password. And then I finally remembered it and I signed on. And I always had this like anxiety thing of like sometimes like you get feelings like, oh, your friends don't really like you and you're more of like a burden to them. Like they tolerate you. I think Gavin

feels that a lot So I didn't talk to any of you for like six months and I signed on to aim I didn't have any messages, so I just interpreted that is like oh I guess nobody I guess I like burn bridges somehow or in some like social way So I just didn't talk to any of you for like two years. There's like a two year break from like 2013 to 2015. No communication. That's when I made the Raymond Silmayer Twitter account because I thought about them using it because I had no reason to continue to be Andrew Panton at that point.

But I'm just not a social media guy. My Andrew Panton account has maybe 500 tweets and like 10 plus years of existing. And almost all of them at this point are related to the show. So I made the account, didn't really use it. And then what happened was in 2015, playing Destiny, Jeff randomly joined my game

when I was doing a daily. And I thought, oh, I guess Jeff doesn't hate me. That's all. That's all it is actually. No, still never hated you. By the way, just for the audience,

and we've talked about this before, I was under the impression we were very good friends this entire time i just was busy with work and i assumed andrew was busy with what he was doing uh at no point was i avoiding or ignoring you i just never saw you online on aim you were just never no it's totally totally justified it was just an in my head anxiety thing but i didn't talk to anybody for like two years i would have never talked to anyone again because it's like i guess that that that's done and then you join that game and destiny and i message you a name the next day and we've talked regularly since then can i just say whether that's true or not and i certainly think elements of it are true maybe even the majority of it is true um i think in all seriousness i think that

the uh that making the music for red versus blue is now the second coolest thing nico has done for me wow that was uh that's quite a story what do you think about this gavin a load of shit a load of old bollocks um what have you got this week jeff you know that's it you not like i could what what do you think is not true about that story i just think no like my i just listened to it and i just i just no okay all right let's talk about this a little bit gav let's you and i now let's let's reach back into our minds we were both we've been good friends with Andrew for a long time we've been good friends for much longer I'm trying to search back into it backwards to try to think of the first times I remember Andrew I definitely remember talking to Andrew

about left for dead or soliciting his help during the 10,000 gamer score challenge and I think there might even be a video to that effect. I also, but I remember him, I think, from just from Grifball. Like, I don't know that I remember him before being, he was, there was a time and he was the best Grifball player in the world and he was on Bernie's team.

And he was too nice to hate. I remember that. Yeah, there was a brief period where I was the best on the entire planet at Grifball, but that's probably because like 16 people were playing it and then Andrew came along and just rinsed the floor with all of us You were in Austin at that time. We were living together, right? No, I think I was in England for griffball still I don't I've been there I just I don't think I was living there Okay, there's some coincidences here in the story that I would like to point out. Yeah, go ahead.

Andrew was the name of a family member. Not a, like, it's what we called them. It wasn't, I think, their birth name. Coincidentally, you were nicknamed Ann Sack. Yeah. Well, I mean, what does Sack have to do with anything? Did you come out of Andrew's ball

sack? Is that like, oh, it's like you're like from Andrew's sack? No. Okay. No. Is it possible that's a secret your family has held onto for years and years and years and you're just now finding out your parents aren't your real parents? Ansack was a nickname given to me by one guy that I was kind of friends with in school.

And I've considered recently trying to reach out to them and figure out there's no way they'd remember so when changing your name uh your gamer tag from ansac to I have to make something else because of the embarrassment yeah not only am I going to use the first two letters of my current gamer tag I'm not going to base it on that I'm going to base it off someone else's name that is just happens to be the same the amount of coincidences that happen for me to meet you guys, I feel like of all the things, that isn't an unbelievable coincidence. Is that coincidence how everyone met, or is that just how life panned out? Is that a coincidence?

I mean, I didn't intend to meet any of you, and I did. That's how people meet, though, isn't it? No, but... Oh, I can't wait to be 40 and meet steven dillbridge i don't know who that is yet and also it sounds like you super super intended to meet us because you wanted to play halo with people who were involved with halo yeah i'm specifically bungee like the way that certain people would idolize a band as a kid i idolized bungee as a company yeah sure they made it technically but we made it dumb. Yeah, listen, I

appreciated what you guys did, but it wasn't, you know, I had no real involvement. I hadn't thought about Red vs. Blue at that point for a while. I think that's a weird, like, that's a strange thing for me to, for you to be like that's the smoking gun to you. That Ansack has an A-N in it. Ansack's

not a nickname. I know, it's, I don't know, I feel like it probably was like an insult in some way. I just don't know what it was. I wish I could get to the real meaning of the name Anzac. Not the bullshit one that you've come up with, but where did it really come from? Did you like Action Sack, the playlist? Oh, that's interesting. That existed before Action Sack did.

Yeah, you're probably right there. Yeah, he is. I genuinely don't know where it came from or the meaning of it. I'd love to know. So if a friend from high school saw you on the street, would they say, Hey, Raymond, or would they say, Hey, Andrew? Raymond. Anyone who I went to school with.

Would they call you Ray or Raymond? They'd call me Ray. Oh, it's Eric is asking how to spell ANSAC. I believe it's A-N-S-A-C-K. Yeah. Here's what I'm going to need. I'm going to need a high school yearbook photo for Raymond Sommar. I don't have any of this.

I don't either, so I can't fault you for that. I can see if I have elementary school photos, I can see if I have those. Would my name be in those? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'll see if I can find those. Can I get a piece of, can I just get a piece of mail addressed to Raymond Sommar, like a bill? I could send you that, yeah.

Did you ever win a sports trophy? in Somera like a bill? I could send you that, yeah. Did you ever win a sports trophy? I don't think one. I played soccer when I grew up, but I don't think it was named. I never played to the point.

It was just basic, between the ages of five to eight. So what other nicknames did you have? What Ray-based nicknames? That was it. I didn't have any other nicknames. No one called you like Raymondo or like, they just called you Ans. No one called you, like, Raymondo or, like, uh... They just called you Ansack.

Yeah, well, not... Like, almost nobody called me Ansack either. It was mainly just my name. It was just a nickname I had. If I needed an alias... Yeah, well, that's why I pivoted, because I thought it would be weird to use... I was a kid.

I didn't want to use my real name on an online thing. You're walking down the street. Like, you're headed to McDonald's. How have we entertained this for so long? Somebody says, hey, Ray, and you turn around. And then somebody says, hey, Andrew, and you turn around? I don't buy it. There's too many

names. It's two names. You're not living two lives. I don't buy it. No, it's so situational. It all smells terrible. Okay. How about this? Raymond right? I'm sorry ray. How about this really whatever? How about this ray? Why does that Raymond so Mara count follow one person? Fucking or have one person following him and it's marked to class. Okay, so that was like he did

Yeah, he's got one person following him it. He following his fucking famous movie director, Mark Duplass. Wait, how do you mean that's one person following him? It was before. Oh, okay. Before it was public. He did a charity thing. I was a big fan of his work. He did like a charity thing and I changed, I had that account and I thought, well, I'm

not really using it. And so I participated in the charity thing and he followed the account. That's it. It's not a great story but that's that's why that happened that makes sense that's plausible i believe that you would do a charity thing and i definitely believe that if mark duplass was involved you'd do it because you're so fucking into the duplass brothers at that time i was i just don't fucking believe you that's okay did you ever at any point believe this, Jeff? No. I would understand why you wouldn't believe it.

No. Did I believe him? No. Did I believe it was, and do I believe it's possible and that he is the kind of person that's capable of doing it? Yes. I also think that Andrew or Raymond or whoever is probably possessed of a regret now in this moment

realizing that this is absolutely something that he could have and would have done if he could turn the time, like get a time machine and go back and actually do this, I think he would. I think his only real regret here is that he didn't have this idea early enough to make it real.

What does Eric think about this? I want it to be real so badly, but I do not think it is. I cannot believe that you did a whole episode where you were supposed to talk about this and you didn't. That's really how I feel about it. That's the main worry. You talked about it.

Maybe we should put these episodes out back to back, like have this one be an extra or something. Oh, because the last one was delayed. So we'll put two out this time. What if we flip the episodes? Yeah, I don't like that idea. He doesn't like that idea. We couldn't put this one out first? I mean, we could put two out this time. What if we flip the episodes? Yeah, I don't like that idea. He doesn't like that idea. We couldn't put this one out first?

I mean, we could put this one out first. It just makes the whole thing fucked up. Then we face everybody. Then nobody knows who's fucked and who's faced at that point. I think narratively we got to try to maintain the linear structure of this thing. Yeah, right. Yeah, otherwise it would be chaos.

Sorry, go ahead again. maintain the linear structure of this thing. Yeah, right. Yeah, otherwise it would be chaos. I feel like... Sorry, go ahead again. No, I was going to change the subject. Keep going. No, please change the subject. So the pile went out for days recently. You guys didn't talk about that either? What did you talk about? No, we did. We did. I just didn't talk about this. We told you I hurt myself.

It was an owie. Yeah, Jeff got a bad owie. Oh, did got a bad owie. Oh, did you graffiti the pillar yet, Jeff? I haven't graffitied the pillar yet. I forgot. What am I supposed to graffiti it with again? Jeff was here 2021. Hashtag f*** me.

Okay. Yeah, I'll definitely do that. But because the power's off, I was trying to keep myself occupied here and there, playing some board games. Picked up my Switch, which I left in the dock, so that was fully charged. And I thought to i've already told uh jeff and andrew this i thought i'll load up stardew valley game i haven't played for several years i think i put it down in 2017 are you aware

of this game eric stardew valley yes i am yeah so i loaded it up found myself uh in year four on the farm so i was like oh yeah i've made some good progress on this file there's a new update so i thought i'll just continue where I am. I load up the game and it displays my name and the name of my farm. The name of my farm, Eric. F*** Face Farm. No.

Can you believe it? Are you serious? I called it F*** Face. That's crazy. I don't know if I believe this. What do you mean? What are the odds? Yeah, do you have like a,

do you have like a do you have like a childhood photo with the face is there a bill of some kind like an order could you show the receipt in which you paid for the game when you got it whatever it is that it came out on the switch i'd already played it on my pc a lot but i i loved the idea of having on the switch so whatever day it came out on the Switch is the day I made that farm. And I regret it because I picked the water farm. It's the shittiest. There's no room on it. But it genuinely

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Hey, Eric. I don't know if you heard about this, but apparently Andrew did buy me a port-a-potty, and it's pink and it's big, and he's delivering it to my house, and I need you to arrange to have it picked up and taken to Rooster Teeth. Yeah, I'm busy that day, so we're going to have to figure out something else.

I don't need you to pick it up. I just need you to work with facilities to have it picked a non-busy uh doing that also it seems like he's helping you out is my understanding the way that he's pitched this to me is that he's helping i am i don't need that kind of help oh yeah i don't and i don't want it um i have all my bathrooms now you have all your bathrooms fixed where have you man? My bathroom's been fixed for a while. I don't know if you know this, but you weren't here and we took a bunch of time off

and then I missed one episode. So. Okay, well, at some point in there, before the snow storm, my pipes got fixed. Oh, there you go. According to Nick, I talked about it on the episode.

Yeah, you mentioned it. Yeah. But once again, the recording before that recording, you said it would take months for that toilet to be fixed. You know what's funny? It did take months. It took almost two months.

I don't think I mentioned this part, but I took a sample of the paint color because they had to drywall my, you know, had to re-drywall my bathroom and stuff. And then they wouldn't put the toilet back in until they drywalled it. And then they wouldn't put the toilet in until they painted it after that. So it's a whole thing. But anyway, I had to go get paint. And I took the sample in. And I got the paint for the walls.

And then the guy came and painted the walls. And I came in. And my white bathroom is now like doo-doo yellow. Like old lady yellow. What do you mean you took a sample? I had like a piece of drywall with paint on it. And you can take it. And you give it to them.

And then they read it with the little scanner. And then it's like the paint. What? That's blown my mind. It's been that way for many years oh yes i think everywhere i've ever lived i've left the walls whatever color yeah they were already yeah home depot and lowes figured that out in the i want to say the 90s maybe maybe the early 2000s i mean i could kind of see it happening with wet paint but with dried paint how do they do it? You've got to take into account the dry shift. Anyway, for some reason,

it was supposed to be something white, like cabin white or some shit, and it turned out to be like old lady yellow. And so now Millie and Emily and I, every time we walk into the bathroom, we're disgusted by it. Why don't you just repaint it? Because I had already paid 400 bucks to get it painted.

I'm going to live with it. No, your fault just repaint it? Because I had already paid $400 to get it painted. I'm gonna live with it. It's not your fault that they painted it the wrong color. And they painted it the color that the guy gave them. If it's anybody's fault, it's the guy at Lowe's who fucking messed the mix up, I guess. That's how it sounds in this story. It's everyone else's fault. That's what's going on.

Look, I took him a piece of white and I said, I want this white. And the guy said, no problem. And then the guy came and painted it, and it was yellow. So wait, wait. He painted the new drywall, and it doesn't match the rest of the room? Or he painted the whole room? He painted it, and it didn't match. He said the shades are looking a little off.

Do you want me just to paint the whole room? Because there was a bunch of scuffs and stuff in the room from other stuff. Listen. So it's your fault. How is it my fault? Well, you should have checked. Because you told him to paint the whole room. I just said make it all match. And he said, okay. It looked white

when he did it. It dried yellow. Look, dude, I don't know what to say. All I'm saying is my bathroom's done. It's just ugly. Well, now you don't need to worry about it. You got an alternative. I love painting. I'm going to get it painted again when you come over and do it. I'll come over and paint your bathroom.

Thank you. But you have to sign the 300 cards. By the way, merch came looking for those and I sent them to you. I hope you've signed them. Yeah, remember when it snowed and you left them on the floor outside my house? I left them outside your house like days and days before that. Yeah. So whose fault is that?

Wait, did you just leave them on your front porch forever? No, I took them in. I just was trying to scare you. I was about to say, I sent you a video. Remember I shit the apple out of my butt for you?

He did. I still haven't signed them though. My favorite thing to do is drop stuff off at Gavin's house so that then I can make lewd gestures on his ring cam. It's always a joy. I always send him the clips afterwards just so he knows his work.

I don't know if I've won if I ended up winning this card signing thing because I still have to go like I have to mail it back and it's almost more of an annoyance that it's only one. What name did you sign? I haven't got it yet. I got an email about it today. It's supposed to arrive later.

We'll see. What I really hope for, honestly, I'm going to buy one of the bats and I hope I get the card. I hope I get the 101. That'd make me very happy. I can't believe you expect us to believe your name is Raymond Somer. I expect you can believe whatever you want to. There's no reason for you to not believe it.

I'm telling you what the story is. I've answered your questions. Andrew, do you believe that we believe you? No, absolutely not. It's a ridiculous thing. But I guess if I had to equate it to something, imagine like that 4th of July party chair that I was just stuck in and that was my life and I didn't do anything about it until everyone was gone. It's that just extended over years. It's the same same concept i do believe that's possible what's crazy about that chair story is that you've known us all so long at the point you were sat in that chair that yeah i can't believe you didn't just say i sat in this chair

and it's like cracked it off well how do you how do i pivot to that conversationally it's not like a naturally like what do i say how do i bring that up how do you bring up anything ever what do you mean well it's just sort of a strange thing to be like yeah the chair i'm sitting in right now i think it's broken can't move i i i think i would i don't think it's strange at all i think i would mention it immediately i don't know it just seemed like an odd thing to bring up and i also wasn't really talking to anybody for that like it was brief like hey how's it going have a good time like those were the type of talks i was having it'd be weird it was an extended dialogue hey how's it going enjoy the party this chair's broken can't leave

bye like what i spoke to a bunch that day no definitely not you're gonna laugh no i feel like 30 seconds in 30 seconds out no a load of bollocks, because at one point you were in the living room. You were the only one in the living room. So I came over and I said hi to you there. Oh, I don't remember that at all. Okay. Yeah, okay. That's on me. I just meant within the chair. Within the chair, I talked to essentially

nobody. That was much later in the day, so I feel like most of our conversation was had maybe at that point. It's possible. But it's the same idea. If I get stuck in a thing, I would just ride it out for as long as I could. I didn't plan on bringing up the Raymond Silmeir thing, but a fucking snowstorm happened. You just had to, right? Yeah, I was trying to.

Well, I looked at it. I thought, okay, I have a time in which I have to do this. I'm the only one who can record for this. What is something I could bring up that's content that can be brief and is like something so people get maybe not a full episode but they get something at least and I thought well I guess this is a time in which I could do this

so if I were to if someone that you've known for a long time were to send you monogrammed towels for Christmas. What would the initials probably be? Well, if I was sending them to you, it would be Andrew Pan. It would be AP because that is the name, the alias that I was going under.

Everything that I'd send to you as a gift would be under the name that you know me as. What if like, so you're... Are you saying somebody who isn't outside of... Do you mean to tell, does your mother know? Are you, see, I don't want to approach this like it's fucking true. Are you insinuating, are you trying to tell me that your mother knows that you go by the alias Andrew Patton and she, she's familiar with this? Yes.

So the people in your life that are, people in your physical, personal Vancouver Island life who are different from your video game career podcasting life. Yes. To them, you are and always will be Raymond Sommar. And they understand that the rest of the larger world thinks that you are someone named Andrew Pan. So let me talk about, address something.

In the very first episode of this show, we had a conversation and we joked about naming this podcast. I don't remember if it was Andrew Pantner or if it was just Andrew. I wanted to name it Andrew. Yeah. OK, well, I talked about that and I told a story about how I told my mom that that's what we're going to call the show and that I said I would have to change my name later as a joke because that's what the thing was called. I that and it made her cry yeah that wasn't that didn't happen that way that was something that happened in reverse of that where i i told her once should i just legally change my name to andrew pant

and she did not like that idea at all she was not a fan so i took that story and I incorporated it into the show thing just for content within the show. Here's these moments of thought that I'm left with after he stops talking. It's so frustrating. I'm 100% sure he's full of shit but there's just that little glint of like I know dude. But what if though?

It's like a splinter in my thumb of it's aggravating and it's not a, hmm. So when you came to visit Achievement Hunter, we worked with someone who was called Ray. Did he walk up to you and say, hey, what's up, Ray? Nice to meet you. And you went, hey, I'm Andrew. Are you calling me Ray or are you Ray? I don't understand why this is fucking confusing to you guys.

Because if a guy called Ray meets another guy called Ray, then surely you have like a little Ray bonding moment. Not when you're going under an alias of Andrew Payton. It's not what I'm known as in this group. It's like a stage name, essentially. So no, I would never acknowledge it. I don't want to believe the fucking conversation. Could you imagine if I did in that context?

And then that's how like how do i how did how would he be the only one that knew that'd be weird ah here's the frustrating thing gavin i buy the mom's story and i buy that he told it backwards i've done i can see that i can i think he's hunting for stuff that he can pivot. I know. I know. But that part, as someone who has legally changed their name in the past and had that conversation with his mom, I got to admit that it, it,

it just, it, maybe I'm just, maybe I'm putting my, maybe I'm looking for a reason to find, to believe it, but it felt authentic to me based on my previous experiences. But maybe it's just me bleeding,

putting my feelings on it. Um, I don't want But maybe it's just me bleeding, putting my feelings on it. I don't want to... It's fucking annoying. I'm going to have to think about this for the rest of my goddamn life. I'm not going to think about it ever again after this, I think. I have to scrub at the moment.

I have to get it out of my brain. This is garbage. I'm storing all this shite. What a load of bollocks, Andrew. Okay, but let's just say I understand your position. Okay. But think about it in a different context.

If this is true, how do you now feel about everything, your position on this? That's a question. Gavin, I would love to know the answer to that too. Assuming it was true, let's suspend disbelief for a second. You might not need to. Does this change anything for you? How do you feel about this person?

If it was true, it wouldn't change anything. Someone's name is like the least important thing about them. Yeah, I didn't even mean that. I'm saying you're very aggressively like, this is bollocks, you're full of shit. If it's true, how do you feel about that? How do you feel about these clips? I'd be very wrong, I guess.

Yeah. I'd stick by it. These extra words you're spewing aren't making me... You're trying to change my percentage of how much I believe you. I'm not. I'm not trying to change anything. I'm just addressing the fact that your most compelling evidence against that you stated is that Andrew Panton and Ansac both share two letters. But I don't... It's not on me to find evidence of your name not being, you're asking a lot of us. No, I'm not. I'm just saying that's the thing that you've said

is the biggest hurdle for you. That was your smoking gun and it's an absurd statement. I've never seen his passport. I mean, he sounds just American to me. I could send you a photo. What if you don't live in Canada? That's a great point. Gavin, what if he lives in Austin?

What if he's in like Round Rock? What if he's been like four miles away the whole time? Every time we fly him to Austin, he has to fly to Canada first. That's why the journeys are so long. He's like, oh, I've got to take a ferry and then fly off a different island. No, he's just on the way to Canada so he can fly from Canada back to Austin now that makes sense

this is such a different episode in comparison to the one that just came out I am gonna you're totally right and I'm so glad we didn't do these last two episodes back to back because I would go from this as it is we're gonna stop recording at four o'clock.

I'm going to go to bed. I'm physically and emotionally drained from this. I can't imagine if we had done them back to back. I'd have to go straight to the hospital. You'd have to admit me into a facility for exhaustion. It seems extreme. Andrew, how would you feel if one of us revealed that we were actually called something else?

I wouldn't care. Well, no, you wouldn't. I mean, we don't care either. But what would it mean to you if we'd known you this long and never told you our real name? Okay, well, here's the thing. I think I'm a bad person to ask. I think I talked about it on the show before. There's a time a power line exploded outside of my house and fire was shooting out of it

and there are trees nearby. And I looked at it for a second. I thought, oh thought that that's no good i just went back to watching tv i'd be completely unfazed by this reveal it would mean nothing it would just i'd carry about my day like oh okay that's all you'd get oh i don't think we ever talk about this again either i said my story shouldn't we spent the last episode not talking about this enough and this episode uh talking about it for way too long. Okay, here's what I propose. Do you remember the movie Beer Fest?

No. Well, I'm aware it exists, but I haven't seen it. Gavin, have you seen it? Do you remember it? Did you show it to me? Probably, yeah. I think we watched it in a hotel together with Bernie and Gus and Matt. In that movie, the guy that plays Farva, the bigger guy,

he's also in Sky High. He's really funny. Anyway, he plays a character who dies and then they replace him with his twin brother who looks exactly like him and then he says, in my brother's honor, why don't you guys just refer to me as his name for the whole movie? Basically, the character dies and they replace him

with him again and it's the whole movie. So basically the character dies and they replace him with him again. And it's the same dude. Maybe we should kill Raymond Sommar and replace him with Andrew Patton and just move on with our lives. What? I zoned. I'm going to be honest. I zoned out and I came back into death.

For God's sake. I like that you tell this 25 minute elaborate story of a lot of bollocks about your name being the wrong thing, and then we try to tell you a 10-second story, and you chewed out. Well, yeah, what happened was I started thinking about Super Troopers and if I liked that movie. I don't think I do.

People seem to really like Super Troopers. It's okay. It's a great movie. Brian Cox bite in the soap. That's a great moment. Getting hit in the head with a fucking maple syrup at this diner at the beginning is phenomenal. And when he throws up, it's real. Yeah. troopers good yes super troopers two uh i don't

remember as well but one is a classic okay man i wrote down so much for this episode i didn't there was no chance of ever getting into it what do you got what do you got good let's say listen before we go let's do one thing we're an hour one thing one quick thing one thing we can't it's been such a downer listening to andrew lie to us like this we gotta have something fun i i didn't lie as i said if it was a bit i'd pretend it wasn't a bit it's not a bit you know when you're growing up and you go you go to school and it's like the first time you're mixing with other humans and you sort of learn the boundaries of other humans and how they work i needed to have grown up with someone like andrew because i'm 32 years old

and i have no idea how to handle this yeah i mean funny enough at one point in this show gavin you said i am the person that you've known the longest and know the least about and that was a very funny moment for me yeah i've known you for so many years most of my thoughts about you are my own imagination like i just imagine what you're doing or like what your life is like because i have no freaking idea yeah it's weird that we've known all known each other for as long as we have and have spent in person very little time together we have still yet to record an episode of face in person i wonder when that will be if ever i don't know that's a good question i i bet that would be a really weird episode and i don't mean like chaotic weird like

crazy i think it would just be awkward super not awkward but way toned down because we're not used to looking at each other while we do this i it's funny because we were we were talking about before you know before the pandemic, Rooster Teeth, we produced content differently. And then because of the pandemic, we had to start doing stuff like this. We wouldn't have normally done an audio-only remote podcast. That's just not the way we... From a quality standpoint, we wanted to approach things. And then we figured out a way to get it done and get it. It turns out we can do it very high quality and do it very well. And now the opposite is true. I can't imagine ever doing a podcast

with you two in person. Well, you and I have done loads in person. Yeah, I'll do it if we have to at some point. But I really appreciate the safety of this screen. And I really appreciate as much as I love you two. When I stop and I upload that video and then I take my headphones off, I get like, I appreciate that you're not in the room

with me for a couple minutes. I think that you would struggle a lot more to loudly eat a salad and think you got away with it if we were in person. That's fair. So, Gav, what were you going to talk about? We don't have to talk about it, but let's let's give the audience a tease about what we're like, what you want to bring to the table next week. We're in season two.

I forgot about that whole bit. Yeah, what can we expect from season two? I bought a coat once and they forgot to take the security tag out. And then I just decided to leave it in. And I set off between 400 and 500 alarms in stores. Okay. That's a teaser. Is that the whole story or is there more to it well i mean that was it was a

face really is that i i could have just cut it out when i got home but instead i'm telling it now aren't i well instead i sold it what are we doing oh yeah how old were you yeah we're ending it you can just end it you can tell people to rate all right, thanks for tuning in to episode 41 of Faced, episode one of season two. Hope you tune in for episode two of season two when you find out more about Gavin's thrilling coat.

Wait, but we already did the first episode of series two. Yeah, this was the first episode. No, it was last week. Oh, shit. Because this is exactly the problem. It hasn't come out yet. It's the week.

It's the black hole of the last episode that we've fallen into again. It's too late. This is titled episode one of season two. This is that's the title. OK. Hello. Thanks for tuning in to face episode 41, also known as episode two of season two.

Episode one of season two. Last week, we treated you to an Eric-less and Nick-less episode. We did our best to fill in with Adam. We talked a lot about Gavin getting hit in the head and being paranoid that people are throwing sticks at him. I believe we talked about some other things as well. Episode two, you heard us conclude the Raymond

Sommare saga. I think it probably took about six months off my life that I won't get back now. I feel diminished. I feel a little bit like... You know how... No, it's over.

Nope, this is over. Yeah, no, no. I'm saying goodbye. I'm just going to end it. You know how Palpatine turns wrinkly? I've never seen Star Wars. I'm not talking to you then. From the lightning.

Yeah, from the lightning. He turns wrinkly and old. I feel like that kind of happened to me, my soul, a little bit. Yeah, Andrew was Samuel L. Jackson with a purple lightsaber. Yeah, and my Palpatine soul is wrinkled now. I

just hope that the rest of season two is nothing like this one. I don't even want to proof this one. I'll be honest. I don't want to have to listen to that again. Oh my god, I just bent down and hit my forehead. I almost knocked myself. Okay, goodbye! That was a metal bar! It hurts!

Fuck!