F**kface - Gavin on TV // The Rules of Time Machine Baseball [51]

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

Geoff, Gavin and Andrew talk about Austialian TV, Gurplers, promoting Slow Mo Guys, tail sync fight again, Gavin's favorite question, Breakfast television, GTA The Movie, Gears vs GTA, F**kface Off Season 1, Gavin strikes update, baseball analogy fight, immunity, slack vs text, saved by the tariffs, what day is it, cruises, losing power, and video game cruises. Support us directly at https://www.patreon.com/TheRegulationPod Stay up to date, get exclusive supplemental content, and connect with other Regulation Listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Visit pcfinancial.ca for details. Hello and welcome to another episode of the Regulation Podcast. This is number zero five one. My name is Jeff Ramsey with me as always, Andrew Panton, Gavin Free, Nick Schwartz and Eric Bedure. I did notice that you named the last one Regulation zero five. Oh, does that mean you're just guaranteeing we've got the space to go over into three digits? And Eric Badoor, I didn't know is that you named the last one regulation 050. Does that mean you're just guaranteeing we've got the space to go over into three digits?

Yeah, I at this point I'd like to yeah, I assume we're gonna get there. I think it's a good commitment one of the first episodes Jeff made the regulation thumbnail of the Panopticon. It's like 0000 0000 to full thinking. I have something to bring up. Just real quick. I have a question. Kind of a query.

Gavin, you were on TV in Australia. What? Gavin was in TV in Australia? Yeah, I did a little bit of breakfast telly. What? Breakfast telly? What? What does that mean?

I thought it was just Australia what it's taught to me. So I said, yeah, right? Here's an Instagram reel about it from morning show on seven. Yeah. One half of the slow mo guys details why they began their channel. Wow, 126 likes.

That's right. That's it. Well, I imagine more people are watching it on TV. So that leads me like very cool. Hey, very happy for you. That's great. So guys, that's really awesome. Did a regulation come up?

You ever say check out my podcast? He never promoted us strategically place three gurgles in my background. That's good. Like Phil Spencer. I'll take that. It was okay. in my background. That's good. Really? So Spencer, I'll take that. It was OK. I was on I was on Australian breakfast TV once in the past, but I lived in England at the time, so I went straight from the pub to a TV station at 1 a.m. to do it.

But thankfully, this time I did it as six. I don't know. You're say, Jeff, that's me. Can you see those gurglers? What do you want to? Oh, yeah, I see one. I see one. I mean he Definitely is showcasing his Dyson fan. He wants everybody to see that. Yeah, that's to keep the door closed. So sweet. Isn't pissing that Yeah, no, I see it

Yeah, no, I see it. Maybe take a drink from it. Everyone. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I take it back. Nick's got it, man. Hell yeah. I like they're just back in the shadows. They're not they're not lit or anything. This would be a great opportunity to use the new button I put on my stream deck.

And what's that? Yeah. What's your button? I think Nick has that, too, for sure. Very custom knob for just Eric on Discord. So they reached out and they said, hey, we want to talk. The Australian news channel is like, well, let's let's let's discuss. You know, a light hearted segment. Oh, great. Every so often I get wheeled out. When did you start?

So my guys, what year was it? 2010. I'm glad that it took them 15 years to finally care enough to ask, why did you start this? Well, a very timely question. This new channel that's been around for 50 almost two decades ago. Why are you saying are you saying they should they should have asked a different question or they shouldn't have bothered talking to me at all?

I don't think they should have bothered talking to you at all. Unless that's the only question. I need to make this as well covered ground. Sorry, I need to make a new stream deck button. I would be annoyed if I got if the Australian news reached out to me. It was like, hey, why did you start this thing you started 15 years ago that you've talked about countless times in multiple places? I don't think we need the deep dive Australian news.

I think you can Google that. You know how in you know how in Dead Space Isaac had a his health meter on the back and he could watch it go down hanging out with you guys is just raising my health meter 80% right now my blue bar is almost to the top is that all they asked you Gavin is how did you start is there more to this I taught them for like four or five minutes They so they asked you how they started and then they made Dan be a corn cat on TV And then they wait this was the whole segment this Instagram thing What?

Reached out to do that. Let me ask you something Sit down let me ask you to do that. Let me ask you something. Let's just sit down. Let me ask you a question. Boy, nothing's happened in Australia, apparently. I'm just going to ask you a simple question here, actually. You ready? Go ahead. What do you want? I just, I don't, it's not what I want. What do you want from me? It's me questioning what do they want? Why do they want this now? Now I think, I love you, Morgan Evan is always good, but it's just a weird ask now to be, hey, can you come on our news station? We got to figure out how this all happens.

It's just breakfast TV. It's not the news. Especially when you have like new stuff to promote. Yeah, but you've been there before. You said you've been there before. Yeah, you could have been promoting like new stuff. You know what I mean? Yeah, what are you promoting?

Are you just promoting the Slow Mo Guys exists? Yeah. So they reached out to ask you to promote that the Slow Mo Guys exists. Can you reach back out to them and see if you can be on it again to talk about this podcast? Or, okay. I want to get Andrew on an interview.

Wow. I want to get Andrew this gig. I want him to promote regulation podcasts on a morning show. How do we make that happen? No you don't, because Australia would email and say, hey, Andrew, can you come and talk about regulation on our thing? And he would go on there and be like,

why are you asking this for? What are you doing? That's why I want him. Why are you asking me these questions? We've been doing this for five years. It's a more relevant question than why didn't you make this channel 15 years ago? It's just a weird ass cuz you're not promoting any like it's not like you're like whoa I got this big video coming out Let's talk about this or yeah, I did this thing slow mo world or whatever do

Do you have to promote something all the time? I just feel like typically when you're brought on to do something it's because you're doing a thing of current relevance and as great as slo-mo guys is, it starting is not relevant. Sometimes I like to wheel out some little has-been people. I think it's fine. I don't think you're has-been at all. Let me be clear. I'm not saying that slow guys. Fantastic. Still incredible. But it's just a weird time to roll you out to be like, what's the hey. So you made this thing, huh?

Andrew, why did you decide to start the regulation podcast? Hey, why don't you mind your goddamn business? Australia, you know that I bet. I bet if you Google why was slow guys started, there's you know that I bet I bet you if you google why was slow a guy started There's a variety of answers. I don't think they actually were wondering I think They were trying to make a little bit of light Entertainment piece. I just think it's a dumb question, and I'm not blaming you. I'm blaming them He's got a point. I found one from, here's one from

2020 that's just why did you create slow mo guys and it's from, it's on Facebook, I guess, but it's just it's Gavin on Another morning show. No, no, no on the slow mo guys channel Explaining why he created it. So you put out your own video about this You should have teased that video in your interview. They should have just asked permission to play the video. It would have been the same thing. Alright, in this next segment we're just gonna watch this video this guy posted on Facebook. I mean they just, they're decorating a thing that just exists.

I just feel like, if I were you, you know, you're someone who really cares about your time. I feel like they wasted your time. Did they waste my time? I think they wasted your time. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. fucking I don't want to take five seconds to tail sink suddenly has five minutes to answer a question that has been fucking wrote into the ground across 15 years. The tail sink isn't really about the time, it's about, I don't want to do this every morning for the next month. Five seconds.

It's not! Think about all the tail sinks, the length of that interview could have been so many tail sinks. People are comparing the tail sink conversation to why don't you back up your files thing? It's not the same. One of them. What? No. One of them is like, oh, I've got a fire extinguisher here in case of a fire.

Your thing is I've got it's like I've got a pineapple here in case of a fire does not apply Doesn't come in handy. They should have just pulled up a video and said what was that about that would have been a better interview How'd you start this thing just watching YouTube videos with Gavin we think about this one I can't listen to this interview. Did you say you started it to join a company that is defunct? And I guess now back, but no, died. No, I just kept it light, kept it quick. It like, well, just like slow mo in it.

Move the pictures. I don't think I like this Australian news. This is fucking delightful. Hey, I didn't expect any of you to notice I was on Australian TV and I did not expect that. I'm so glad. I'm so happy that Eric brought this up. I thought I could just sneak onto telly and no one would notice. It'd be like if someone reached out to Jeff and asked, why did Red vs.

Blue start? It's like, well, we're we passed that point. We're good. People don't know who I am, though. They might be seeing it for the first time. I don't want you. People weren't born when I started it. You think the value of the slow mo guys is learning why you started it? You think that's the exciting aspect of the channel? Man, these things moving at an insanely slow speed.

Wow, is this cool. You know what would make this better? If I knew why it started. Oh man, would I give this video a thumbs up if only I knew why this whole process began. But why do movie people keep making origin stories? I mean, they have to see. People don't like that either.

That's true. I don't like that. People are sick of it. I feel like there is a whole thing with Spider-Man where everyone was like, we get it. We know. We all know. We all know. He gets killed. We don't need it. I just think next time you get asked to do a morning new show and they were you prepped ahead of time of what the question was going to be, what the context?

No, but they said they would ask like five questions over five minutes or something. What other questions did they ask? Yeah, I wish I could actually listen to this. I'm just going based off the text. While Andrew's listening, what was your favorite question? Oh yeah. I don't remember the questions. There were only five.

They just played some clips and asked me about them. They talked about like working with Will Smith and stuff. Oh, that's a good question. Did they ask about his Oscar slap? No. Why not? Hmm. I feel like that's the most interesting thing about Will Smith. Good question did they ask about his Oscar slap no hmm Like that's the most interesting thing about Will Smith

This has been the best use of this has been the best use of Nick by the way just in the background Why not there only five plus Nick episode? I bet you after your Australian news appearance your fucking numbers must be off the charts I'm glad you can find time to hang out with us here your fucking numbers must be off the charts. I'm glad you can find time to hang out with us here. Here's what we do. Must be on fire because of that morning news thing. Oh, shit.

No. Here's what we do. Andrew, we're gonna get you a little executive desk. We're gonna get you a green screen. We're gonna roll the cameras. We're gonna do a live interview and you're gonna interview me. And I wanna just, I wanna hear how good your questions could be.

But I, the problem with the scenario that you're pitching is that I would need to be the one that wants to do that. I'm not, I'm not the Australian news. I'm not asking to do that. I'm not saying I have better questions. I'm not trying to initiate the interview. I don't think the actual hosts either I think what it's I think they were just doing their job. I think they were reading auto-queue and they were being friendly I don't know what you want from either me or

Australia so you don't think the hosts were excited to talk to you. I would like to think the hosts have some level of Deciding that approval. I bet you they could thumbs down if they wanted And I don't know why you're getting hot at me. I feel like I'm advocating for you I think I'm on your side and this whole thing is that is that how it sounds I'm trying to think if that's I'm not against Gavin in any way of this process. I think it's all the Australian news is where they drop the ball I've definitely gotten that impression from this I Think I've been pretty clear. I think the Australian news is where they drop the ball. I've definitely gotten that impression from this. I think I've been pretty clear. I think it's the Australian news fault.

I don't think Gavin did anything wrong. He answered the call. I just think it was a ridiculous call to answer. Didn't you start off by saying the couple is way too small? I know I was the pro groupler. I was the only one that was like I criticized your groupler placement. Oh, sorry. I think it would be good if you took a sip of it.

Maybe took a bite out of a Cosmic Crisp while the interview was happening. I think there's a lot you could have done. Okay. I think you could have said regulation podcast one time. That's really my, that's like to me, like the crux of the whole thing. I think you could have said my slow-mo brother Dan,

AKA Ian, and then slowly winked at the camera. I think you could have said my, my slow mo brother, Dan, AKA Ian, and then slowly winked at the camera. I think and looked directly up, making sure my ears were visible. All of these notes because chances are seven to eight years from now, I might get wheeled out again on telly. So why did you start? Why did you start something in like 2017 that we're not aware of? Ah! Ah! Ah!

Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Oh, fuck! Rough episode to be you, Gavin.

Jesus Christ. What is it getting on Gavin's fault? Australian news. This is all free promotion. I don't know what you're talking about. For us? The slow mo guys on YouTube. We gain nothing from this. Outside of joy.

This has been so good. I saw a clip of it the other day of you on Australian TV and I had my note of it. And then at the same time, a regulation listener or comment lever now actually posted the video on the subreddit and it's good because now people are leaving comments and classic image 9008 to think this is the same guy

that didn't know that worms was six players. And then legend of Lelda just said, but he did. That would be some hard hitting journalists. They asked you why you didn't articulate. Yeah. Why didn't they ask about work? I love that our law is so deep for this point that people are getting like the truth twisted up and ending up in arguments amongst themselves about what I may or may not have known. It's brilliant. Oh man. Oh man. I need to may not have known. It's brilliant. Oh, man.

Oh, man. I need to see your other Australian news appearance to see. I think they're the same on this. Why didn't you talk about regulation podcast? Is it only the Australian news that really is reaching out? I feel like you should do more news. Yeah. Not the more domestic. It's not it's not the news. What? you should do more news. Yeah. Not the more domestic. It's not. It's not the news. What? It's not the news. It's the morning news. It was just, do you have

like Canadian morning TV where people are to share the shit, talk about it for stuff? Yeah, but they have like news. Yeah. Morning show news, whatever. It's all about like the weather report and stuff. Yeah. Talk about like, whatever. It's all there. They still have like the weather report and stuff. Yeah. We'll talk about like entertainment gossip. It's technically news. Yeah. Okay.

It's not like 60 minutes, but it is a light news. Why don't you, because you clearly have a problem with Australia. Why don't you try and advocate for me to appear on your favorite Canadian morning show? Okay. And we'll see what they do with it. I'll have to find one first. I'll I'll make it. I'll do some research. Can we move those gurglers a little closer in frame?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, they'll get a lot closer. Number one morning show in Canada is. I don't know what the fucking name is. The breakfast television team. Oh, breakfast TV. You could have you could have just made that shit up. You guys got a bunch.

Canada AM, CBC News Morning, CP24 Breakfast, CTV Morning Live. Good morning, Canada. Salute, bonjour. You got so many options. Your morning. Canada. Salute, Bonjour. You got so many. You're morning. I got a lot of research to do. What did you use to what was on TV?

Oh, pardon me. Before you went to school or before. I would watch. Family like I'd watch kids chefs. You wouldn't have like someone else in the house who just had some. No. And I was the three stooges. It was I would get up an hour early for school every day because it was on that some morning TV. How come you weren't on the three stooges promoting slow mo guys, Gavin? Gavin free public figure.

I want to shout out. I I screenshot it and put it in the chat But chasing the improbable Gavin can be so eloquent and professional when he isn't being choked out by his cat's breathing How's that going by the way cat more more cat piss in the room are you doing all right? No, there's there's some vomit though. Oh Is that from Jeff? Yeah, I've not been there though. Oh, is that from Jeff? Yeah, I've I've not been there. No, I just it's like a hairball, some hairball residue that I still. Hairball. You it's it's currently soaking.

And then I'm going to give it a second pass. You know, it's really nice about like you and Jeff, Gavin. Oh, I mean, it's truly it's it's one of the I'm going to say it's a top three thing of being friends with you. Both of you. It's it's incredibly convenient. I can just Google, when is your birthday? It's so nice. I don't have to remember that. I just can put it in and search it.

And then it pops up and I'm like, OK, that's what it is. Good to know. Because it's such a headache for almost every other person in my life to be like, oh, when I think it's coming up, it's yours. Not Google. What? No, not at all. I'm be good. Well, thankfully, I remember yours. Wow. Wow. That's that's sweet. I don't remember yours. I Google it.

Well, I care about you. So I remember your birthday. Oh, I care about you, too. I just don't. that information doesn't stick I'm like yeah, let's I gotta make space for your Australian news interviews. I gotta Those are what really matter Man did you did you see that going that way when you bought it up Eric? No, I just well I was gonna be like why didn't you say the name of this podcast?

But then Andrew got fired up. Hang on, got fired up defending and being on Gavin's side. Yeah. Yeah. Number one advocate. Number one advocate for Gavin. What an advocate. I'm like your manager.

This is bullshit questions. He's in the back. Andrew's on the back in a big 1980s cell phone going, these are bullshit questions. I feel like if Andrew was my actual agent and we went there together and I was on the news and then I'd come back to the green room and I'd be like, oh, that was really nice. And he would just be livid. He'd just fume in about the questions. I think I would probably be if I was your manager, I'd be team slow mo guy. And I think I'd be less like I'd be less critical of it.

I mean, your boat. I'd be like, I get the show out there, talk, you know, it's a pleasant conversation was all sweet. As somebody who is not affiliated in any with slow mo guys, I could just snipe and just snipe this thing. That's fair. My parents have had a lot of time on their hands lately. At first, it was nice. Hey mom, can you drive me to soccer practice? Sure can. We're having slow cooked ribs for dinner. It was awesome. And then it became a lot. Some friends are coming over to watch a movie.

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Okay. Alright. What a course life is cold enough. The mountains on the can turn blue. Woo! OK, all right. When a core's light is cold enough, the mountains on the can turn blue. So the next time you want a cold lager, cold filter, cold package, core's light, just wait until those glorious mountains on the can turn blue. Whoo! It's easy to say that fast when you're freezing gold. We actually had a slight collaboration with a bit of slow-mo and a bit of

Regulation that came out with the the GTA replays. Oh, that's incredible such a good video. Awesome God that's so amazing good. We actually made that quite a long time ago We I made it right after we finished the first set of heists. Yeah a few months ago, but Yeah, that was really fun to do. I'm gonna do that for every round of heists a few months ago. But yeah, that was really fun to do. I'm gonna do that for every round of heists, I think. Oh, wow. Oh, really? Wow.

Yeah, it was really awesome. The audience loved it. Like, dude, it just did so well. And then right before that, we put out GTA the movie Heist Part 12, which is a three hour and 13 minute video of us being so bad at the video game, I think it would like make me not be a fan anymore.

But there was one attempt where I was probably 16 or 17 frames away from finishing the mission, but it timed out and it added another 45 minutes to the video. So funny that you bring that up because I just replayed that exact finale last night. I've been going through those heists with some friends that have never gone through it before. And we did the final heist of the first run. And we there is a Nick situation. We were doing it in normal. So you get one life. But somebody died.

And the very first time we hit the ramp, I was like, OK, we're going to hit off this cliff. And once that happens, you're going to need to deploy your parachute to hit a. And they were in their snack menu. And so we went off the cliff. And then I heard a bunch of distress noises. And then it's saying they died in the bottom right corner of the screen And they had to go. I was in the snack menu. It wouldn't let me. I realized why I had, I didn't have the best memory of that heist

And I think it's because I've only done it on the criminal masterminds run. The original Run through the heists that Achievement Hunter did. Jeff was in that heist Wow Really? Man, I have no memory of doing, I have no memory doing any of the heists that Achievement Hunter did. Jeff was in that heist. Wow. Really? Man, I have no memory of doing. I have no memory doing any of those heists. So the whole like jump off the cliff on the bike thing was completely new to me, because when you're doing criminal masterminds, you don't need to go up there. You can just drive to the boat. Interesting.

And it was a rough evening where the group I was with, we failed like maybe seven or eight times in a row, and just muted my mic and went, I can't do this again. Can't keep happening. I'm never doing this again. I mean, I feel like I'm still ditch the bikes. Just go to car. The bikes were fine. The bikes are no problem. The bikes are no problem. Did you see the deaths? People tallied up the death. Not mine. I mean, yeah, I was fine on the bikes is all I'm saying.

I like the bikes. Let me get that thing. I'm going to find it. Yeah, somebody did like a heat map of all the where we died. It was great. It was really cool. Why were you dying on the bikes? You just exposed to gunshots. Yeah, you just get shot. Yeah, it's just like so many cops are coming at you. Like it's it's a lot. But why wouldn't you get in a car or van or something? Because you steal bikes to

Bikes are bulletproof tires, which is the main reason to use them the cars you get a pop tire And then it takes forever to get to the end And it's dangerous switching. It's We all essentially died on one stretch of road, if I remember correctly, the heat map. It was like he called it the death zone. And it's 90 percent of our dying is like on one street. It's such a brutal video, Jeff. It's just it's three.

It's almost three and a half hours of us just being so bad. Like there are times where I just like mute and deafen and just had to like Stand quietly like I just had to like be Not playing the game or hearing any noises like I just I couldn't do it It was like it absolutely broke me Which is crazy because we played so many more heists from there, and I've just totally compartmentalized and blocked all of that out I don't even think about it when we play like regular ice now and blocked all of that out. I don't even think about it when we play like regular high snow. It was at around the same time we were playing through years of war

on the hardest difficulty. And so my tolerance is so high. Otherwise, I think it would have impacted more. But it was like, oh, now this is this is just what life is. This is being dead. All I know you are. Yeah. You were born in the darkness. I was. Yeah.

What was harder? Gears of War on hardest difficulty or that heist? Oh, that's tough to measure. I'd say gears. Yeah, I would say that gears. I think there's a certain area of gears that really, really broke us. And I don't think we ever got as low in GTA as that sequence fair enough That's the only time where I felt like I just we might just not do this work Grand Theft Auto felt like oh

This is so doable this almost is why it's frustrating. Are you talking about the wheels area with the wheel? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah Well in about a year and a wheel that spins? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, in about a year and a half, that'll come out and people can watch. Oh, we're putting them out pretty regularly now. But, but, but, but, but we are taking a break from those because they usually go on like our Monday slot. Like we've just been kind of like throwing stuff out on like Mondays and everything.

Just like, oh, here's like some blindsides, whatever. It's been fun. It's been like a cool little like extra thing. But by the time this comes out, when this is out, go back, go to the Patreon because face off is coming out week to week. This is the first season of face off if you never caught it before, because it was behind the pay wall, whatever, whatever. That is starting on the I guess the what is that the 28th,

which was a couple days ago at this point. F*** face-off, season one, first episode is out now. And we'll have every week a new episode all the way through, I think the first week in June. So every Monday, f*** face-off, go check it out. Are those only on Patreon or are they on Patreon and YouTube? I believe they're just on Patreon. Okay, and are they free on free on patreon. I yeah sure

I have bog standard and above do you need to make them free on patreon so I can make an adjustment to our calendar I'm just I'm just clarifying. I'm just I was just oh no. I'm just I'm just asking I Didn't know what we're oh Nick finally found the thing ten minutes later Nick found Nick timely I thought the idea was to put it for free and then the new series is on patreon Yeah, there's a new series There will be a season two That we'll talk about more in the future because I want to run by some ideas with you guys that I have for that but

Yeah, why don't we make season one free to everyone because it's old and people are young hate free on patreon Yeah, okay works for me Gavin is that what you're saying also yeah okay I'm just making sure this is welcome to what our Monday meetings are usually like everyone thank you so much appreciate your patience thank you every Monday on our patreon for free starting on the day that you said the 28th I believe yeah two days ago at this point yeah two days ago you were already probably seen the first one. I think it's going to be really cool, because I have no idea

what percentage of the audience have seen those videos, because they were behind the first paywall when they came out. So it'll be there might be a surprisingly large amount of people that have never got to watch the first season. So I'm excited. And it's I think it's six episodes in total so it'll be six weeks every Monday Go check out face off season one so then that gives us six weeks to figure out how to do season two Season two is largely put together. I just need Gavin's info and then oh, I'm done my thing is gonna send it to you

Okay, well once you send it to me then I can start working on that and then I've got it. We get have it, but I have it That info in like six months ago. Oh, yeah, there's probably like November. Yeah Jeff did it immediately when I asked took some other people a bit longer and that's okay I mean I did I did a full team immediately and then every couple of days I'd go in and take out Stuff that I didn't like as much from a it with new stuff. I've just been doing that. Yeah, that's what I thought. It was so interesting hearing your process of you made more than you need and then cut down. I for something like this would never operate that way.

I would just reach what the number was and then, Yeah, I've probably cut like 50% of this point. Usually I get like 85% of the way there and then I have to fucking stretch that last 15 Nick just asked how many file requests is Gavin up to how many strikes does get this is a great question a great question Because we need a rule. You're real. You're real nosy bastard Nick Than you think cuz you're on strike three and but that's part of a ruling potentially we need to go over this Oh the first thing his life and feel okay. Go ahead you explain you're on strike three, but that's part of a ruling potentially. We need to go over this.

Oh, the first thing here's what I feel. OK, go ahead. You explain that I want to hear your perspective on what happened. Andrew said, need your video and audio for this video. Strike. And then he wrote strike. And then I looked at the folder. And realized it was from ages ago. It was from ages ago.

It was from long before the bet. So in my opinion, it doesn't count. He still needed it. I still needed it. And I think it was from the point of, I feel like anytime I ask from the point of us making the bet, regardless of when, but that means I might have 20 strikes ready to go. I need to be. Don't you like have all your files?

You have all your files. Yeah. Just check, go through, Gavin, go through the impossible work of making sure that you uploaded what you were supposed to upload. How, what a dread on you, what a nightmare. Yeah, what a dread. I could absolutely go through all my folders

and make sure my stuff's in there, but I'm just saying, I think the strikes should start after that. I hate to in there, but I'm just saying I think the strikes should start after that. I hate to say it, but I agree with Gavin. I disagree because it's when the video is being made is when it's like, that's when it comes up. You should have uploaded it at the time. You're being penalized for your lack of action regardless of when it occurred.

According to the bet, I had 20 strikes going forward. Yeah. And that was forward because the video was now being made. And so the editor asked, could I have Gavin's stuff? And then I went to you because you didn't upload it. A baseball player. I feel like it's on you. A baseball player. From the point the bet started, you should have double checked. I feel like you even kind of made a comment.

I want to get out of Got to hear this baseball analogy. Yeah. Yeah. Baseball, right? You walk up to the like next to the staple, right? You walk up to that. And what if you if you miss the ball? It's a status.

OK, batter's box during the 10th inning, you walk up to the staple. Yeah. You swing a miss. That's a strike. Well, I don't take into consideration is the miss you had the game before or the miss you had eight months ago. It's just that. But let me let me let me put it to you this way. Yeah. You and I agree.

We're going to play baseball. And any time I throw the ball, it counts as a strike. We agree. We start. And then I throw a ball and you don't hit it. Is that not a strike? You just threw a ball. Yeah, I just threw it out because it came into play now. The ball got created two months ago, but I threw the ball now.

The fact that the ball is two months old is irrelevant to the fact that you missed the ball? Uh, deep. Are you kind of, are you regretting using a baseball metaphor now, Gavin, or what? I mean, I still stand by my baseball metaphor. Great. I don't think the argument of when the ball was made has anything to do with the game. What? If the ball was made three months ago, no one in any game of baseball has ever cared of the manufacturing date of the ball.

It's not part of the game. That's my point. That's what I'm saying. Oh, is it? The file was made in the past. It's irrelevant when the file was made. It's when the ball gets put into play that matters. And me asking for the file because the video is being made now, that is the swing.

That is the pitch. You missed two strikes. I actually missed three months ago. I'm saying that the swing, the mechanism to allow you to miss was created three months ago. The act of you missing occurred now because it wasn't thrown into play until now. I don't know the rules of time machine baseball

or whatever variant you're playing. It's not time machine baseball. You do understand that they don't make the ball on the field. The balls get made and then they get thrown. We're not saying, what's that got to do with making the ball? Oh my God. I feel like I'm a crazy person. The file. Okay. So a baseball needs to be created to be tossed. You like we get that we're on the same page. We're going step by step. Do you get that? It's surely thrown. The pitch is made when we stop recording. No, let's stop talking about what you're saying.

Let me go through my thing and make sure we're on the same page. A ball needs to be made before it can be thrown. Correct. Yeah. The stadium needs to be built as well. We agree on that. The bat needs to be made. The players need to be born. All of that needs to be made.

Go ahead. So everything needs to be made beforehand. The file is that thing, that content, and the file being made is the making of the tools required to play the game. We then agree later to play the game. The game is if you're missing stuff, then that's a strike. The file, the ball and the bat come into play finally, it's time to play and you miss, you

swing and you miss at both. How is that not a strike? I missed three months ago. What are you talking? You didn't miss three months ago because there was no game three months ago. There was just a file. You're saying the game wasn't when we recorded it. No, the game started when we decided we were making a game of it.

The crowd turned up, the players turned up, they didn't play three months later. Nobody turned up three months ago. What do you mean? What do you... Is your freaking guy done with Survivor yet? Can we get him on this? No, he's not done. He's doing great. First of all, he's one of the better characters. I need him. I'm loving watching him play. I think you can start a bet or start a game, if you will, and then say you had a strike three months ago. I'm not saying you had a strike three months ago.

I'm saying the mechanism that allowed it to happen was three months old. The mechanism that allowed it to happen is three months old. Okay. Okay. Yes. So at the point in which you and I said, any file that I need from you is a strike. If you actually cared, you could have checked to make sure all of your stuff was uploaded,

but you didn't. So then when we go to make the video and the editor says, hey, we're missing Gavin's stuff, then I have to go to make the video and the editor says, hey, we're missing Gavin stuff. And then I have to go to you to get your footage. And first of all, how do you not do video or audio? What are you doing? You miss both. You just did nothing. It's like you're not even there in the video.

What you presented. Second of all, how is that not like you could have done it? You had time to do it. I approach you. It just feels like against the spirit of the game. If I'm going to be constantly saying to you, I need you to upload this thing and it doesn't count for anything. Eat the pencil. You could have eaten the pencil.

See, now you're pivoting. You realize you're wrong in this argument. You're just yelling about pencil. You're talking about the past like I could now you're pivoting. You realize you're wrong in this argument. You're just yelling about pencils. Am I wrong? You're talking about the past like I could have done anything about it. You could have.

You could have. You could have. You could have. You could now. Yeah. You could now. I'm not disagreeing that I could look through everything.

You just said like I could have done anything about it. You could have. I could have done anything about it. You could have. That's the whole point. Look, if you want to play time machine baseball, you have to say- I just want to play baseball. No one's playing time machine baseball. Because the date of manufacture is not clear on the board apparently. If you want to play time machine baseball, you got to say at the start of the bet, we're playing time machine baseball. I can play it. Teach me the rules. I'll play it. But I have to know that stuff I didn't do three months ago.

Is it in the bet or not? I feel like it's a very simple thing of the terms of the bet where anytime I need to ask you to upload something is a strike. The date in which the folder was made is irrelevant. The mechanism of the bet is any time I have to ask you, it's a strike. I had to ask you for two things. Yeah, but this was not I thought this would be an easy ruling. There's a whole other aspect of this we haven't even touched on that I thought was going to be way more of an argument

than this. What about this? What about this? If it's in the past, it's a half strike. No, I think it should be a full strike. I don't think you and I should have an opinion on this though. I think it has to go to Nick, Jeff, and Eric. Okay.

I'll accept their ruling. Okay, um, I'm gonna side with Gavin just to kind of see what happens. Ooh Based on just the very particular wording of any time he has to ask I'm going with Andrew Wow And it all comes down to Jeff Wow. He's in the catbird see this is great. Who do I like more? Hey I Hey! I, I, I'm in, fuck.

So I was on Gavin's side almost the entire way through, but Andrew did a phenomenal job of succinctly explaining the crux of the issue at the, in the last 5% of this thing that really could have just superseded all the other nonsense. And it... I gotta go with... There's a spirit to this. Well, and here's the thing too. The whole point of the bet is to change my behavior for the better, right?

But it didn't. What do you mean? You can't say it didn't change my behavior if my behavior is being measured in December. What are you talking about? I didn't. Well, you know what? It's a great point Nick Gavin is home. He's new to this whole industry He needed time to like figure out how to upload things and like Decent for the editor. He's got all these TV I got off I stopped recording and I immediately was thinking about my gerpla placement. I'm siding with Gavin. Oh, thanks.

Very exciting. It's like 50.1 to 49.9. It's so close. It's the closest judgment I've ever given. I'm really conflicted about it. The ruling. I just I feel I feel like dog shit because I really see both sides. And I think you're both just about equally right.

But there's just there's a spirit to this. I respect the ruling. I just wanted to be known how fucking aggravating it's going to be to have to ask for Gavin to submit stuff Constantly that is just not gonna count With complete immunity. I'm already annoyed whenever I have to ask no no now. It's a whole other level Maybe I'll change my mind now. No no here's what we could do now that you've said it now I know the sport is time machine baseball. You can absolutely count previous.

I like this decision. I like to be given to go in the time machine and make sure that past me knows he's playing time machine baseball. And I want to look through all the folders, get all my stuff uploaded. You don't have to ask about the past anymore. That's you know, if you want to operate, I'll give you those two strikes back. Spring is here and you can now get almost anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. What do we mean by almost?

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That's I was told by Nick, Nick messaged me and said, hey, Gavin has a strike. I need to I'm about to ask him for audio. Does that count? I wasn't sure if that counted. What do you mean? That's the bet. OK. Oh, I just didn't know if I was the one that had to ask for it.

No, I know. So that's a definite strike,. Oh, I just didn't know if I was the one that had to ask for it. No, I know. So that's a definite strike. Cause theoretically, Nick could just not tell me that he had to ask you for something. So we're at strike one then. All right. Yeah. That one's, that one's absolutely fine. Cause it cut after the game had started.

I would argue the game start, whatever. It was really, I don't need to say I would argue it. We've already seen it. We've we've the argument was articulated. That's fine. One strike for a hot dog that doesn't even exist. That was all a lie. A bullshit fake hot dog that we'll have to make.

Assuming that Gavin gets 90 more strikes between now and when was it? Was it August? When was the end of August? End of August. Yeah. Otherwise, I have to eat a frickin we based it on the schedule of a team that lied about a product. Great. How are you feeling about your chances, Gav?

Not great. I'm not going to lie. We're doing we recorded two episodes today and Nick always drops the upload folder as soon as we finish one. And I was happy. I was unhappy. I was sad to see Gavin had already uploaded his. You're too. You're too into the game. You don't want the actual results. You just want me to lose.

I get it. I want you to lose because I want you to suffer a consequence for never uploading. That's what I'm cheering for. But in fairness, if I do get asked, it's usually in the folder within that minute. That is true. But it would just be nice if you instead took that minute. I know. I agree.

And obviously I can make pretty easy changes to the future. Pretty difficult in the past. Pretty damn hard to upload something in December 2024 at this moment. I mean, you know, you got all your folders, you got all your files. It's true. You have it all saved and organized. It's all good. You're great at finding them when they're asked for.

Yeah. You're really good at storing them. I think that's the thing. You're too excited about storing your stuff. Why am I excited about? Because it proves your point. If you're obsessed about storing things in case they're needed and then making sure that you don't do the thing which requires them to be needed later, you're constantly re-approving or

reaffirming that like it's good to have this. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. OK, but it's not it's not. I just want to make sure we're not talking about time travel files or whatever. We're on the same page. It's nice. I like this. This has been an all time Gavin and Andrew episode. Yeah, I'm trying to think of any of the notes. I don't think so. I've been I've been really enjoying how some stuff like work stuff is often talked about in

Slack and personal stuff will be talked about on text. And sometimes I'm, I'm arguing with Andrew on Slack about work and having the most wholesome conversation on text at the exact same time. I, uh, I did an exercise once on Slack and I typed sorry into, uh, Gavin's, uh, Slack conversation history with me. Zero results. We've never said sorry to each other. You will apologize. What you do is you say I'm an idiot, but you never just go, I'll say like my bad. I'm a more or you're self deprecating in the mistake, but you do not articulate.

Sorry. I just feel like calling myself a piece of shit is harder hitting than sorry. Sorry is kind of generic. But I suck. I don't know what's wrong with me lately. I suck. It's better than a sorry. I feel like that just makes us both end up feeling bad. Sorry is just like, hey, I fucked up.

My mistake. I realized that that was an annoyance. Oh, I got saved by the tariffs. That was fun. Congratulations. Alright, now this is a podcast, baby. It's the only positive that has come from tariffs. Nintendo Switch 2 is a thing that exists. And I don't know what's wrong with my brain.

Or doing a Gavin. a real piece of shit Can't seem to keep track that schedule for it. I Was so excited for the switch to you. I think the new Donkey Kong game looks like so much fun I want one so badly. I'm not even that big of a Mario Kart guy But I think the new Mario Kart looks cool It's just it looks like so much fun and so I was gonna try to get one and it was like I was making a big deal about it. And then they announced post tariffs because it came out.

The reveal of the switch to is the same name, which Trump implemented all these like global tariffs. So Nintendo was not expecting that, I guess, or prepared for it, because like the next day, they said that we're not. We're changing the preorder date in the US. We'll come back with a later date. It'll release fully at the announced time before, but the preorder date is changed. But in Canada, zero impact.

So it's all excited. And I'm getting ready. And I even like said to my partner, like, oh, we should try to get a switch. Nine p.m. tonight. First one. Walmart drop nine p.m. Oh, here we go. And so it hits nine p.m. tonight, first one, Walmart drop 9 p.m. Oh, here we go. And so it hits 9 p.m. We're refreshing, we're looking at things and it's not showing up.

And then I check maybe three or four minutes after nine. I'm a whole day early, way early, wrong day. What? It was the next, I got the dates mixed up. It was 24 hours later. We were 24 hours early. It was 9 p.m. the following day. And I felt real bad.

I was like, I'm an idiot. I'm so sorry. I didn't realize. I just, I guess I was too excited. I got the dates wrong. We're gonna have to do this tomorrow night. But that's fine. Wait, wait, wait.

So you said I'm an idiot and then you said sorry? Yeah, it was the whole thing. Wow, that's-. Wait, wait, wait. So you said, I'm an idiot. And then you said, sorry? Yeah, it was the whole thing. Wow. I covered all the bases. That's two things. Well, that's nice. We're continuing the baseball metaphor.

I walked all the bases of apology. But I said, don't it's fine. Cause I guess I thought Walmart was first. I guess it'll be last tomorrow at 9 a.m. All the other pre-orders go live for like Best Buy and GameStop and the other things and so I'm all excited for that I'm up for it my partner likes to typically sleep in and so I'm up and I'm waiting for it I'm like oh boy here we go only like 40 30 minutes away from this going live this

is great and then Nintendo announces that they're also delaying the preorders in Canada because they're doing it in America and they just want it all to be the same. And I feel I'm so annoyed. I'm like, God damn it. Like, I just want to preorder this thing. It's I'm getting delayed because of a different country's decision. This is bullshit. Oh, this just is so annoying.

But at least at least my partner is still sleeping. They're fine. And then their alarm goes off. And then I just feel bad for them of like, oh, they set an alarm to contribute to this thing. And it got rescheduled five minutes past like, it was like 835, it was like 30 minutes. I was like, what a jerk move for Nintendo to do this like 30 minutes

before the preorders were supposed to go live. And I'm upset about it. And then I do more reading about it. And I realized once again, I'm 24 hours early. It was it was the next day when the preorders are supposed to go live. I just have all these dates wrong. So then I had to turn and I said it when I told them at the time. I was like, Nintendo just canceled all the Canadian preorders.

You're doing the same thing that they did with the U.S. Isn't that annoying? And they're like, yeah, that sucks. And then we continue with our day. And then like 10 minutes later, I realize, oh no, oh, it's not. It wasn't supposed to go live in 30 minutes. It was supposed to go live the next day, but they don't know this because Nintendo swooped in before the time that it was supposed to go live

and they canceled them all. So I got to, I avoided, I didn't have to reveal that I once again screwed up. It was a whole day early because Nintendo just canceled them all. So I got saved by it. How are you two days off? I don't, I was just really excited about Donkey Kong. You can shake the controller and he beats his chest in direction.

You shake the controller really excited about this game. But I just it's the only positive that's come of it, where like I would have gotten in shit for. Screwing up back to back in a row, one where they set an alarm to specifically help me with the thing that I was a day early for twice in advance. How do you know what day is usually? That's actually a good question. How do I know? I guess you guess.

Well, no, I'm like I'm trying to think I'm guessing. I think if I if I slept for like three days and I just woke up, I wouldn't know what day it was. I guess I'd have to actively search. I look at our calendar all the time. What is happening right now? What? Jeff help. It sounds like you just, you wake up, you ignore your phone and you go, what day does

it feel like? No, I know what yesterday was. Yesterday was Sunday, so today has to be Monday. But I'm thinking if there was a gap, no, I would just check my phone. I would look, because I'm constantly looking at the schedule. There you go. Check your phone.

Jesus. Took a long time to get to check your phone. What the hell? I never check it specifically for the date, but I would see just on the fucking phone. I don't know if it is. Is it the day, the date and the time? April 17th. But I would know that that's a Tuesday or whatever.

Do you know, I have a Mac, though, use a Mac. It says we're on the top of the screen. Right Thursday. I guess I would collaborate my my Do you know I have a Mac though use a Mac it says around the top of the screen right Thursday I guess I would collaborate my my Android phone and Throw those words around Robbery yeah, there you go you and you and your phone can do a corrupt Christ hey I before we run out of time,

I wanted to pitch you guys on something that I think you're gonna hate, but I hope you hate it in the way that makes you wanna do it. So I'm officially a cruise guy now. I really enjoyed the cruise. It was a lot of fun. Being on the cruise was a cruise guy.

Never been on a cruise before? Yeah, on a cruise ship. Didn't think I'd like it. Really did enjoy it. It was great. Great experience. And I got thinking about cruises in general and just how there's like different cruises for every flavor of human, right? And then I was thinking about when we travel to stuff together and how much fun that always is in theory, if we ever do it and Although sometimes like we went to Vegas, you know

And then I was thinking about our wheel and how much joy we all get out of the wheel and I had this idea What if? What if we put a bunch of different cruises on? A wheel and we spin it and we have to go on the cruise that it lands on. There's like heavy metal cruises like this one. There's a Chris Jericho's Rockin' Wrestling Rager at sea. There's a cat enthusiast cruise. I'm not opposed, but I just need to articulate.

I just need to point out that literally last podcast, you said, don't book me for any trips. I don't want to travel anywhere I don't want to go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is a year out at least yeah This is most of these cruises have probably already happened this year. This is we're not doing it this year This is far into the future that the future Jeff can worry about that current Jeff has no it has no cruises on the horizon There's a Star Trek cruise how much fun would that be there's a flat earth or a cruise How much fun would that be not his cruise and once again? You're not you're selling me on these these

Kesha has a cruise Kesha's weird and wonderful rainbow ride five percent fun. Yeah monsters of rock Wouldn't all the people on a flat-earth cruise be scared of driving off the end of the earth? Smugly and be like we know where it ends I see a cruise that would be the I could definitely see myself being miserable on there's a fucking impractical Joker's cruise What a nightmare that would oh Oh, no! Help me! Haha, Sal! Do it, pranks on putting spaghetti on your head in the dining hall?

Going crazy, that's awesome. Oh, getting pranked. How much fun would it be to spend like, fucking three days in the sun, in a pool, with a bunch of dudes with white face paint on because they're all death metal guys, or a bunch of cat enthusiasts just talking about how much they love cats? Zero! I don't want to spend any time with these people. What are you talking about?

That's why I think it makes great content. What an amazing first cruise that'll be for me. You think the Flat Earth cruise just goes in a circle because they don't trust where the end is? Yeah. They just do donuts of the port and then... Yeah. Oh, I don't want to be trapped with people.

I know. That's the misery. I definitely don't want to be on a cruise. What know that's that's that's the man. I don't want to be on a cruise. What? That's this is insane. You're crazy. Yeah. And a cruise that for something that we definitely aren't into, you know, just a bunch of guys. Well, you guys are into it. You guys go into the you guys go into the concert tonight. The what? No, it's not.

It's not playing tonight. Oh, I like Kesha a lot. I don't think my fandom of Kesha is enhanced in any way by it being a cruise No, I don't know. I guess the joy is spending time with other Kesha enthusiasts. So Kesha's not on the cruise I would assume she is. She has to be. Yeah Ed talked to us about they did bare naked ladies cruises back in the day, Huh. And they were on the boat. They'd like play a show and stuff. But it doesn't have to be musicians either, you know? It could be a yarn enthusiast. Fucking, it could be about like, uh, crocheting.

A crochet cruise. Can we just, can we do this not on a boat? Can we go to some hotel that has beachfront whatever? Why do we have to be on a boat? Do we have to, I don't want to blow that snuck shit to it Yeah, and that's the whole because you're trapped you are trapped. That's definitely true. You can't leave and go to Red Robin Uber yeah, damn fuck Very good point that sucks. It's a very good point. That sucks. Yeah, just something to think about you just never leave the room

You never leave the room. It's no different than a hotel room Oh, that's true. You do get room service. I did have room service every morning for breakfast. Was it good? Uh, yeah, it was pretty good. Okay, that was pretty good. There was some good There was some good food on that on that boat. It was was it like 70 bucks a time. No, it was all-inclusive So I don't have to pay for any of it. Oh You pay pay out the dick on the front end. Can you do what no fishing? No, we can get in your patio Fishing crews throw a line get yourself a lot. Why have I never seen someone fishing from their cruise?

I don't know, but we should fucking try I'm trying to think if there is a cruise that I genuinely would be excited to go anyway I'm trying to think if there is a cruise that I genuinely would be excited to go anyway It would have to be a 2026 thing But I thought it'd be a fun way to have a group vacation that we turn into content. What is the world's shortest cruise? I think it's just I think that's just called a boat It's called the BC Ferry And I'm at a shorter cruises are typically two or three nights Which is what I would assume we'd want to do two or three nights. The cruise I was just on was like 15 days.

That's too much, but you guys would lose your fucking minds. That's insane. And you'd get really sick. You'd be like, oh cool, the Parthenon. Oh cool, the like Oracle of Delphi. Oh cool, Santorini. It gets old fast. Oh, Eph Ephesus cool. Yeah, some people do like months, don't they? There's some people that live year-round on notes. Yeah, wasn't there like a wasn't there a cruise that was like 14 months or something like There's that prison There's a there's a permanent cruise

Royal Caribbean's ultimate world cruise, which lasted 274 nights. It went from December 10th, 2023 to September 10th, 2024, because I think probably just in remembrance for like the next day. Yeah, here you go. We can buy a villa for $140,000 on this one. And then we just live on it year round.

A world cruise. Probably don't do that. Yeah, it stinks. What do you do with your house if you're on just live on a year-round probably a world cruise probably Stinks what do you do with your house if you're on a cruise for you? So you sell it for the crew you're on it like this you're buying you're buying that Villa you're on it for the rest of your life It's a full-time cruise. You just travel the world every year. I just don't want to be on a boat. No absolutely not Yeah, it's I mean it's not bad I didn't mind it But I was definitely happy when we got off. But I never got seasick or anything, and there's swimming pools and hot tubs and lots of food. I'd be, I think, most annoyed by the paperwork.

There's some paperwork. There's trivia every night. We always competed in trivia. That was fun. Have you seen those videos of when the cruise ship lose power? No. No, but the cruise ship lose power? No. No, but our cruise ship lost power.

Oh really? Yeah, like four in the morning one day. And I guess we were coming in too hot and they had to cut the power and then they lost power for a little bit and the gyro went off and then I thought it was going to stay. the stabilizer thing and it got pretty fucking for about 20 minutes there it was pretty

rocky and I was like maybe I am going to throw up but then it was fine. I didn't realize they need to be turned on to not get tossed around by the sea. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll put that on the board for down the road. The wheel of wheel of themed cruises. Can we veto one thing on the wheel? Yeah, I'm going to veto cruises.

I googled Black Eyed Peas cruise because that was like the most insufferable cruise I could think of. God. And the A.I. overview is the Black Eyed Peas have a music video called Forever where they are cruising around L.A. That sucks. We should wrap this up. I don't want to go on a cruise, but we should wrap up this episode.

Oh, I got it I got it There's video game cruises. How fucking miserable would that be? Oh? What a beat you just want to be on a celebrity on one of these things Jeff no I think that's a celebrity anymore dude. I'm fucking six generations past all these people people who are going on this cruise Know who you are. I don't think so. I don't think anybody knows me. So we all get on a cruise ship and we play the Call of Duty thing and we can't leave the ship until... Well something to noodle on.

I'm really looking forward to going on a cruise with y'all. I think it's going to be a bonding experience for us and we're going to get a lot of fun Star Trek themed Content if that's the crews we end up on But that'll be it for this episode. I guess we should probably knock it off and maybe some of us could go throw up for a little bit Thanks for listening to another episode of the regulation podcast We sure enjoyed talking at you and we hope you enjoyed listening listening to us do that. We'll see you next week. Bye bye. Bye. Bye.