F**kface - Gavin the Luck Catalyst // Don't Do Anything to Crabs [69]

Episode Date: September 22, 2021

Geoff, Gavin, and Andrew talk about Andrew's rookie of the year tarot card reading, a complicated relationship with shift, crabbing with friends, and Geoff going to Vegas for Andrew. Want to contribut...e to bits? Email what you can do to ffacebits@gmail.com Sponsored by Hello Tushy (http://hellotushy.com/face), Better Help (http://betterhelp.com/face), and HelloFresh (http://hellofresh.com/face14 and use code face14). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:57 Hello and welcome to another episode of the F*** Face Podcast. This is episode 69. No importance to that number, really. It's just the one that follows episode 68, comes right before 70. With me, as always, Andrew Panton from Canada, Gavin Free from England, Eric Bedour from the land of San Diego, Nick Schwartz. I don't know where Nick is. Nick is from Austin, Texas, I've decided, and I am from Mobile, Alabama. And together every week we sit down and we talk about
Starting point is 00:02:27 tarot cards and tarot card readings. Andrew, you were saying? Well, I was just, we talked about, we have that Rookie of the Year bet. And I had somebody reach out a long time ago, back when we're talking about doing it with basketball. And I'd been meaning to email them and they reached out over Twitter last night
Starting point is 00:02:44 about the bets and being willing to help send some some positive magic towards the players of our choice and part of that was I got to have a tarot card reading on the bet got to kind of get an analysis of how things are going to go essentially from my memory uh the first card I got said that my my strengths are in my ambition and sneakiness but it may cause resentment and uh strike is the may just strike through the word may yeah so this and the second card was like i'm holding on to the past which could could be bad bets lost in the past which is path of gambling if not 80 it's like that's all gambling is is you having regret about things you you've done i don't remember i think the third one was like success would come from
Starting point is 00:03:31 teamwork and something i don't remember how it would work exactly like this team like face i mean you can interpret that in so many ways maybe the success of of justin fields is in his teamwork or or the players were going to pick but essentially i opted i had to make a choice because the interpretation was that the magic would be most powerful if focused on only one person but i didn't want to risk the resentfulness that may come with that so i put everything on jeff and my player and gavin i didn't send anything your way because i figured you're naturally lucky enough you don't need it it's true Mac Jones is gonna be Mac
Starting point is 00:04:07 Jones he's not gonna be too as well no you don't I love that you remember how to say his last name I got told by Eric I think what you need to evaluate Gavin is your natural luck opposed to my bad luck that the magic needs to counter
Starting point is 00:04:24 it's a much deeper hole for the magic to take effect on my side i don't think i have good luck i think i have luck boosters like if your luck is bad i'll make it worse as i've seen wherever i'm deciding what you bet i'm like a like a luck catalyst it's true i don't think i've ever won based off of advice given by you and we've done this on the show and off the show i think i'm like oh and seven based upon gavin's guidance eventually you should just go in on like a million dollar bet because if you if you've lost 10 times you can't lose 11 sure that's That is such a gambler's mentality that is completely wrong.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And I love, I completely agree with. It cannot possibly be read again. Oh, it's read. Well, it can't. There's no way it will be read one more time. Man, I know there's only so many face hours and a face day. Yeah. But I would love some shoulder content for this podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:26 That's you getting your tarot reading recorded. Oh, well, it's already the tarot is done already. I'm going to get always do it again. We get it. I just think that that like, especially in the context of this bet,
Starting point is 00:05:36 I always feel like we should have all three of us do tarot readings and have them have them be recorded. They scam me to the audience. Yeah. Well, this is scary territory, buddy. We're dealing with the dark arts. My first ever tarot reading, the very first card that I ever,
Starting point is 00:05:54 like, I don't even know the cards at this point. Pulled the card, death. That's not a bad card. But then I was told that it was not actually that bad and you don't want to pull the tower. But bullshit, death's a bad card. Death's not a bad card. Death's just changed, buddy. The tower bullshit, that's a bad card. That's not a bad card. Death's just changed. The tower is a bad card.
Starting point is 00:06:08 For sure. That's the one you don't want to pull. I feel like the death card is like the ace of a blackjack card, like the equivalent of it's very powerful or useless. Like it could be an 11, which could be very useful to you. As long as the death isn't pointed at you, that's a powerful card. I mean, I don't understand if terror works, but I don't think death necessarily is a bad thing it's not it really isn't in in the terror world oh man oh yeah i mean it's all poor shit in general isn't it none of it's
Starting point is 00:06:37 bad it's it's paper well you say that now but let's see who wins this bet yeah exactly we're gonna once i'm the j James Randi of this podcast. Well, I'm glad that I didn't put any magic towards you. It would have been a waste. It would have been a waste on you. Andrew? I was right all along. Yes, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:06:53 Can I ask you a question? Of course. Gavin, this is not for you. Please do not participate in this portion. Andrew, do you know who James Randi is? Yes. Yes, I do. Who is he?
Starting point is 00:07:01 He is a, I believe, he's a skeptic, right? Generally speaking, he's somebody who has debunked several people. He used to work on The Tonight Show a lot, where he'd come on and debunk people that claimed that they had psychic abilities. He's a very, I think he's also a magician, maybe? Yeah, he was like the great Randy. But I guess when Uri Geller came on the talk show was it Carson at the time asked
Starting point is 00:07:27 James Randi how to mess with Geller's like spoon betting so he deliberately didn't have he didn't allow the crew of Uri Geller to get anywhere near all the props so he just sat there for like 20 minutes trying to bend a spoon because he couldn't he didn't pre-bend
Starting point is 00:07:44 any of them he couldn't any of them but it somehow made it somehow made Uri Geller even more famous and it didn't tank his career in any way it's very interesting I feel like there's a clip of Randy on like a show and it was a guy claiming that he could move things with his mind and he's gonna like open a phone book or like change the page of a phone book
Starting point is 00:08:02 but really he was just blowing on him yeah he's like essentially either blowing or like directing the the wind of the room like he was just it was clearly like he's just using the effect i think he was blowing as you said so randy put all these fucking little pieces of paper around it so i couldn't just yes i couldn't just move the thing it's great and the guy is like hmm no yeah i can yeah i can't do it now for some reason there's a lot of strategic squatting by that guy in that video of like trying to get into the zone like pretending he's like trying to get the right he's dressed like a martial artist he is yeah i forgot about that but yeah i'm very familiar with him he's great i'd never heard of the guy that's funny that's
Starting point is 00:08:42 interesting is he british or No, he died recently. He did. But did he die British or American? He was American. He was American. Oh, Canadian. Canadian? I don't know. Maybe American. I don't know, actually. I just know he's not British is actually the answer to that question. I don't know anything beyond that.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Oh, Eric's typing Canadian-American. Well, there we go. We're both right. the in the world of solving things i want to talk about a thing really quickly because the the episode we recorded last week the first one aired and which i talked about my shift key realization oh yeah i didn't know that shift could capitalize a lot of people talking about it saying they don't believe that that was a thing that i could do and so i i was fascinated because I genuinely didn't know that that the shift capitalization was a thing and how is this possible and Gavin you brought up the phone the
Starting point is 00:09:31 phone has the symbol for it which I didn't really understand so I'm gonna I'll pull up tablet get this ready so I that is only useful if you know that the shift key is supposed to capitalize, right? So if you have no basis of that, even if the symbol is the same, that doesn't mean anything. I always interpreted that symbol as it's an uppercase, like it's going to uppercase your letters. So that's my phone keyboard. It's not one to one to my real keyboard. So there's I didn't view. So people have said like oh it will the
Starting point is 00:10:06 symbols on the fucking keyboard how did you not make that connection I've used Mac keyboards almost my entire life there's no symbol on the shift key that symbols not there I don't use a PC keyboard so you say you didn't know that was shift even though I had no idea that was so the you've been using the shift key this entire time you just didn't understand that it was no no the only time I would use shift I believe is control shift four where you can then search for a specific word but I'm saying people saying like you Gavin that symbol represents shift not on any keyboard I've ever used but you have to it's in the same place like you have to go there to hit a capital letter.
Starting point is 00:10:46 What do you mean? Like, what's next to Z on a keyboard? On both keyboards? Yeah, but it's shit. But I had no idea that shift capitalized. I've only been using cap lock,
Starting point is 00:10:56 and there's not a cap lock button on the phone keyboard, so I interpreted the up as the caps lock's button, not the shift button, because that symbol means nothing. And I thought the upward arrow was like, we're uppercasing
Starting point is 00:11:07 your letters. It is. It is saying it's uppercasing your letters. Yeah. So that's just that I just wanted to go over how this happened. My point being is you've been uppercasing your letters with the shift button on your phone this entire time. You just thought it was a caps lock button. Not knowing it was a shift. Yes. You just thought it was a caps lock button. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I thought that that was a caps lock button because I didn't know the shift did that. You might be right. Well, I just thought it was a caps lock button. Yes, I thought that that was a caps lock button because I didn't know the shift did that. You might be right. Well, I mean, to be fair, they're built into each other. Like that is actually both keys on the phone. Yeah, if you double tap it, it locks in. That was what I didn't realize. I think on the podcast, we realized that I didn't understand
Starting point is 00:11:40 that you could double tap the shift to caps lock. And I was manually like holding it down each time I needed to the shift to caps lock. And I was manually holding it down each time I needed to type an all caps word. Did you know, Andrew, that if you double tap, it locks in the caps? No, I had no idea. If you knew that, I was going to say, I mean, technically you're kind of correct
Starting point is 00:12:00 because it serves the function of shift and caps lock. And so this entire time, if you've been using it as the caps lock, you've been using it correctly, I guess. So you can tell all the comment leavers that you were right and they were wrong. It's not even a right or wrong. It's more just how did I not make this connection before? And I saw a lot of people bringing up the symbol being on the shift key.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And it's not for my keyboard. I got an earful from minor league fan Jack just this morning about it. I was going to say the same. Yeah, he's Andrew, your biggest doubter. He pulled me aside when I came into work yesterday. And he was like, so that shift thing's bullshit, right? Like, there's no way. And I was like, look, I think it's real.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I don't. I would have gone on. What I'm curious about is how long it would have taken me to ever realize that. The only reason why I figured out the shift thing, because I was talking to someone, and I was like, don't you hate when you cap lock and you hit the wrong, like it's out of sequence, so the first letter's small and all the other ones are capitalized?
Starting point is 00:13:01 And they explained to me, they said, you don't use the shift? And I had no idea. No fucking clue. It's just something I didn't learn. I don't know how I didn't learn that the shift didn't i don't have an answer for that but i genuinely had no idea that if you held shift to capitalize letters well i mean there's also a way around your problem too in what way like when you're jesus like uh when you're out of sync like you can uh what is it it's like shift and f3 or something and it like flips the capitalization of all the letters that's not real i think it's real is it shift f3 or something and it like flips the capitalization of all the letters that's not real i think it's real is it shift f3 or something i used to use it in word i guess i don't i know
Starting point is 00:13:32 one keyboard shortcut and it's control shift 4 outside of that i'm never using that shift button dude you should you should give shift a spin it is awesome i tried like once i heard i'm still caps locking because it just feels more natural because once i heard i'm still caps locking because it just feels more natural because i've been typing by hitting caps lock on the singular capitalization for most of my life but i guess all my life i've been typing i'll say this you figured out how to play how to use a video game controller wrong and you're way better than i am at video games so i'm not gonna judge how you do it yeah that was another weird thing where i didn't realize that there was another way to hold the controller it just seemed obvious that you would do that
Starting point is 00:14:07 yeah it blew my mind when you're like no i have both thumbs on the analog sticks wait what he he's a claw guy he yeah i guess it's called the claw i didn't realize that until after i i used it so you're like fingers on analog stick yeah well i guess i have my my thumbs are on the analog stick and then i bend my finger to cover all the buttons i guess the issue is more that jeff removes the ability to look around like when you hit a button he uses his thumb so then you can't move your head and shooters so i just bend my finger over to cover all the buttons so i never have to yeah that's why you're better yeah you can avoid that actually with the uh the paddles now and the elite controllers
Starting point is 00:14:44 that's the thing i own an elite controller but that actually with the paddles now and the Elite Controllers. That's the thing. I own an Elite Controller, but I never use the paddles because I already just do that with my fingers. I don't have much of a use for the paddle system. I don't like those paddles. It's overcomplicated. And if you slam your controller down,
Starting point is 00:14:57 they fly off. That's how I feel about the Shift. Shift doesn't go anywhere, buddy. No, it doesn't. It stays on. It's not like that game we have to put the symbols in before it explodes i'd love if keyboards did that but i just the point of it's over complicated in my head i just hit the caps lock key then i hit it again it's not a big deal i just wanted to describe how you're just describing something more complicated because
Starting point is 00:15:20 you have to do two things that's fun who. Who doesn't like hitting a button? I love hitting a button. I'm just, I'm going to go on record, Andrew, and say that I believe you, even though not many of the comment leavers and certainly not minor league Jack do. I think that you're being totally honest, and I can see how it would happen. As someone who still, you know, who still has the Roman numeral problem,
Starting point is 00:15:42 I completely and totally can see how you would miss this little bit of information and then you look up and it's so many years later and you beat all of Crackdown without Autolock. Yeah. I didn't know about this Roman numeral problem that you have until last week. It's been a big deal my whole life.
Starting point is 00:16:01 But why don't you just sit down and learn them for like an hour? Dude, I tried. I told you. I don't know if I told you this or if I mentioned it. I feel like I've talked about the Roman numeral issue so many times it's over-talked
Starting point is 00:16:11 across podcasts and stuff. But I used to have a laminated card in my wallet that I could use as a quick reference that somebody gave me. I mean, really, you only need to know between 1 and 12.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Anything else is bullshit, really. I mean, until you you only need to know between one and 12. Then anything else is bullshit, really. I mean, until you get to the Super Bowl. Yeah, the Super Bowl. Super Bowl had like L, didn't it? That was like 50. I bet I like college football better than pro football subconsciously because of the Super Bowl confuses me. There's no Roman numerals in college football. I like it's the least important detail, though,
Starting point is 00:16:48 of the Super Bowl. Is it? I think it is the number of which one it is. I think it's important to know when it is. Yeah. Like what Super Bowl it is. I don't feel. Well, I guess you could make an argument for that,
Starting point is 00:17:01 but I feel it's more key. L is not a number. If somebody tells me. V is not a number. If somebody tells me. V is not a number. O is a number. Yes. O is a number. If somebody says like LV1,
Starting point is 00:17:12 I won't know what that means, but if they're like the Chiefs Patriots Super Bowl, I will know what that is. What annoys me about Roman numerals is the imbalance around a letter. So like a four will be like IV like one before the five and then you have five and then you have five i and then also five i and then a five i i like why isn't it two either side instead it's one one way and three the other yeah it's stupid it's pretty mental
Starting point is 00:17:42 it's it's too confusing for a fully formed adult brain to work out. They need to get you in the third grade when you still haven't cemented all those connections, when you're still moldable. Because now, I can't. It's nonsense. I had a friend at school who thought, he'd only read it, he'd never seen it read aloud.
Starting point is 00:18:03 He thought the guy's name was Henryville, but it was Henry VIII. Oh, man. Gavin, I ran into you. By the way, this is getting weird. I ran into you at the office this morning where I was going to record my audio only podcast that I do. That's not this one.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And then we we said hi to each other. And then we agreed to hang out later when we both leave work to come home to record this audio only podcast. Well, we can't record in person without Andrew because of the imbalance. I agree with that. And also, I don't know, man. Even if I could at work, I really feel in my zone here for this podcast.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I feel safe. I've got all my treasures around me. I've got all my baseball cards. I've got my egg card. I'm ready to go. I feel like you also just need that environment because it's such a big part of the show I took forever to build your moving episodes
Starting point is 00:19:11 because of it hitting your head on the desk it's a character it is funny though to run into Gavin at work and then agree to go home so we can work you joined us while we were scooting around on our various segways and one wheels. Two days in a row, I've come into the office now that the world is, you know, we're starting to emerge from our pandemic caves. And two days in a row, I've been at the office and seen you at the office.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And for a brief moment, I almost felt like we worked for a real company again. Yeah. And then I got on my bicycle and i rode home we did a pretty good prank on the meeting you were in yesterday that's good very very can we talk yeah this hasn't come out for a while right yeah this will be two weeks yeah over a week we were in uh we were in a meeting uh who cares it's i like this podcast better than whatever that was anyway. Plus, I created that other thing too, so I can call seniority and say it makes more sense to be here. We were in a meeting about just
Starting point is 00:20:19 bullshit admin meeting kind of stuff, and we had minor league fan Jack in to talk about this charity that he runs every November that raises a bunch of money for sick kids. And we're in there for about 30, 40 minutes. He was supposed to come in and talk for about five minutes. It ran about 40 minutes of just, you know. Oh, dear.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Good Lord. And then when he finally gets up to leave, it's a glass office on three, I guess on two walls. The other two walls are solid, but the glass is frosted so you kind of you kind of you you know you can see colors and shapes but you can't really see what's going on and we were just focused on the charity and all the important work that we were doing and uh minor league fan jack gets up and the door opens you know he opens up the door to walk out and walks right into a giant fridge you guys had moved an entire refrigerator perfectly in front of the door and so that he just walked right into it it was very
Starting point is 00:21:10 the fridge is on wheels yeah we're back in the mode of just like videos this is what we miss being at home really videos just can spontaneously happen we're making a video about something else and then i decided to try and move the fridge and then i thought it'd be a good idea to block the door with it and uh it was very enjoyable and then we replaced the real fridge with matt we just gave him all the stuff from the fridge and he had to give it out to people if they wanted to drink but in that meeting gavin when we ran into each other you mentioned that you had a bunch of stuff to talk about today really oh no i still got some stuff left over I sure got some new stuff I I had one of those moments again where you sort of think you're in a simulation because there's just too much
Starting point is 00:21:52 coincidence happening at once you ever get those yeah Meg was streaming the other night she was playing some Nancy Drew game and because we've been watching so much Survivor we haven't really had a chance to watch movies recently so i thought oh we'll watch a movie but she she had to finish that game she wanted to like get through the whole thing and by the time she finished it was quite late so i thought well let's watch like a you know like a 90 minute comedy or something we settled on airplane which i hadn't seen in a long time great movie and i was talking to her before i was like oh so you actually had to like finish that game you couldn't just like do it in segments you're like no it's better if you finish it because it's
Starting point is 00:22:28 like a murder mystery and i and she was like you know what nancy drew is i was like no i don't i don't really know about nancy drew she's like well it's like the hardy boys i was like yeah i don't know i just i'll be honest the only reason i've heard of that is because coolio rapped about it in the keenan and kell and she was like you're having a laugh you must know I was like no seriously that's the only reason I know those names then we're watching um Airplane and there's that scene in the cockpit where
Starting point is 00:22:54 like everyone has a confusing name for a cockpit so you got like Captain Over you got someone called Roger someone else called Victor and they're like ah what's your vector Victor he's like ah you're over oh what oh Roger and Roger's like, oh, what's your vector, Victor? He's like, oh, you're over. Oh, what? Oh, Roger. And Roger's like, huh? And it's just all that confusing stuff. And Meg's like, oh, they're doing like a funny Abbott and Costello bit.
Starting point is 00:23:12 And I was like, oh, I've never seen any of that. She's like, oh, you know, Abbott and Costello. And I was like, I'll be like, I'll be honest with you. I've only heard of Abbott and costello because coolio rapped about it in the key where he goes through double acts so then she was like all right you're having a you're having a laugh now so then i got up the lyrics to keenan and kel and i was like oh here's the bit and coolio goes, this ain't the Hardy Boys or a Nancy Drew
Starting point is 00:23:47 mystery, it's just Keenan and Kel in your vicinity, like Siegfried and Roy or Abba and Costello, Magic and Kareem or Penn and Teller. And then I realized I paused the movie and I looked at the TV, it's freaking Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Starting point is 00:24:03 in that scene. He plays Roger Murdoch, the guy in the cockpit. And I was like, why is everything in my life right now in the Keenan and Kel song? I'll be honest. I was half expecting Penn Jillette to fall through my ceiling.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I was like, what is going on? We were both like jaw open. Like, what is happening right now? I'm in a simulation. Is there a line in the Keenan and Kel rap about how the shift key works? Because I have not heard the rap and that could have helped me. There is.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Were you wearing socks at this point? Anyway, Airplane, still a funny movie. Airplane holds up really well i actually took millie my daughter to see it in the theater uh i guess 2019 summer 2019 and it was well first off uh a 15 year old kid has no frame of reference for 98 of those jokes but still very funny and the thing that you forget about that movie uh and their style of humor is that there's a joke every five seconds yeah it's it's like those zucker brothers movies like what
Starting point is 00:25:12 they've done all the i guess naked gun and like i think they're involved in basketball and stuff there's just like a visual gag or a joke every six seconds they've got like a jpm uh minimum of like 30 jokes a minute or something. It's ridiculous. Also, I realized from I found out afterwards that all those people in that movie, like Lloyd Bridges and Phelps, whatever his name is, and Leslie
Starting point is 00:25:35 Nielsen, they'd never had comedic roles before that movie. They were all like really serious actors and it reinvigorated all of their careers as comedy dudes. Yeah, and Nielsen ended up having, his second act was way bigger than his first because of all that.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I view him as a comedy actor and I viewed Creepshow as like, oh, that's a weird exception to the rule where he plays like kind of a sinister, murdering character in that, not realizing that that's what his career was for a time. Dude, Creepshow's a great movie. Meteor shit. I used to say that to myself all the time meteor shit i didn't realize that airplane was a parody of airport until i watched airport i had no idea that those i just thought airplane
Starting point is 00:26:18 was a funny movie that was not spoofing anything else i thought it was a bizarre comedy it was strange to watch airport be like oh this is, this is Airplane. So what was Zero Hour? Is that because they made multiple airports? Is there an airport called Zero Hour? I don't know. Airport was like a trilogy. Airport is like a weirdly big movie. I've never seen it. Zero Hour was the other movie, right?
Starting point is 00:26:38 I thought that was what Airplane was based on. That's the one that had all the combat stuff is based on, right? But the main guy in Zero Hour is Ted Stryker, who's also the main guy in Airplane. Right. Like that part, the Stryker stuff is based off Zero Hour, but I think a lot of the other stuff is based off Airport.
Starting point is 00:26:53 It's like a combination. What percentage of the f*** face? What year did that movie... Hold on a second. What year did Airplane come out? It was like 1980. We're talking about a movie it's before my time we're talking about a movie that was came out years and years and
Starting point is 00:27:10 years before y'all were born i was five and i'm a thousand like we probably should move on to something this you don't think many of the people listening have listened to the 1970s airport i don't think they've seen dean martin as a pilot before i think maybe not but i think they should they should well they should watch airplane airport not really needed to watch it's okay it's very fine hello tushy and hello audience i am here to talk to you about the modern bidet company that is washing away all of your problems. All of your poop-related problems. Is your butt clean enough to sit on the couch naked?
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Starting point is 00:30:40 and then we could talk about how I'm going to Vegas this weekend for you, Andrew, and so we should discuss that maybe. Okay. Uh, but also Andrew, and I don't know if we want to get into it. Uh, we still have superhero, but then under it. And while Gavin was talking, it was talking about airport.
Starting point is 00:30:55 I was reading and I just, it just hit me. I had no idea what this note meant, but I wrote down just the word crabbing and it took me most of this podcast to remember why i wrote that down yeah can i guess you could please uh you were you were trying to think of other words for theft like scrumping and you discovered that crabs when you steal a crab is crabby no we were andrew and i were having i wouldn't say a disagreement we were having a conversation about uh i i guess like a a strategy like a surrounding podcast like a behind the scenes work kind of strategy and we were kind of talking through it and he made an analogy about uh how when you go crabbing you
Starting point is 00:31:40 leave your crab traps you don't put all your crab traps in the same spot you set them out uh in a around so you have a wider you can't it's essentially casting don't put all your crab traps in the same spot. You set them out around so you have a wider, it's essentially casting a wider net, a wider crab net, as it were. And I got it in my head that I thought it would be really funny if we all went crabbing together because I've never been crabbing.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I don't even like crabs. I guarantee you've never been crabbing. Andrew and I both decided there's no way Gavin's ever been crabbing and he's never been crabbing. I don't even know what it entails or what I would do with crabs if I caught him. But the idea of going crabbing with my two best friends, an activity that none of us have done before, I'm assuming, sounds really fun to me. So I think we should all go crabbing in Vancouver Island someday.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I think an important note, too, for our text is I made the crab netting analogy. And then Jeffff asked have i gone crabbing before and i replied no and i have no idea how it works that was a wild analogy for me to make i actually don't know anything that i'm saying regarding this topic i agree we should do this at some point we should just be a list of things we haven't done that we're not enthusiastic about doing and then we have to do them or we have to assign those tasks to one of us we need to order because there's a lot we have to get done at the moment we set foot on vancouver island like we've got to get straight to work there's not enough
Starting point is 00:32:53 time to do everything you can watch the bathtub races while crabbing for the doc it's one it's gotta be there though because we don't have crabs in austin it's not crab country you know i will say we've already got the perfect receptacle for crabs. Yeah? What is it? You made it. You made it, Andrew. Oh, the basket.
Starting point is 00:33:11 There you go. Bring the basket back up. No, that's true. Yeah. Could you imagine the expression on everybody's faces if they saw us lower that into the water? Why are you dunking that tumbleweed into the water? If you think about it, though, if there was a Venn diagram
Starting point is 00:33:31 of like, Andrew, you're 26 now, 27, 26? 27. 27 now. And Gavin, you're 32? 33. 33. 33 now.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I'm trying to give you guys each a year. I'm sorry. You're getting up there and it's gross, so I'm trying to help you out. I'm 46.'m sorry. You're getting up there and it's gross, so I'm trying to help you out. I'm 46. The combined amount of time is,
Starting point is 00:33:49 I don't know the math on that, but probably close to 100 or around 100 years of combined activities. So the Venn diagram of things that haven't been done by all three of us has got to be pretty small. I don't think that's true at all. I think it's very wide. I think you'd be surprised at how many things
Starting point is 00:34:08 you've done that you don't realize that when you throw out an activity, you're like, no, I did do that once. Have you ever skinned a rabbit? No, but I've seen it done in person. It's gross. I've seen it in video games. Does that gross. I've seen it in video games. Does that count for anything?
Starting point is 00:34:27 I watched Roger and Me. Arthur Morgan. Yeah, exactly. No, I don't think, I mean, it's also wild. You need to factor in when you're evaluating this experience chart that you've made, Jeff. I haven't just tried scrambled eggs or a glass of milk. Like, my contribution to the range of experience is narrow.
Starting point is 00:34:46 It's more like two and a quarter person. I understand that. I understand that. But you knew who James Randi was, and I had no fucking clue. So you are a keeper of knowledge and experience, whether you realize it or not. I'm surprised by that.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah. No, I thought, honestly, when you did that, I thought you knew, and you were testing me to see if I did. I didn't know it was the reverse of you not knowing. No, I assumed you wouldn't know who he was. And he was like some British personality that we don't know here in America. I didn't account for the fact that he was Canadian.
Starting point is 00:35:18 He did work a lot in the UK, though. I watched a bunch of English shit he was in. though i just watched a bunch of english shit he was in i i would say the if you took if you took every activity on earth and then you know applied our venn diagram of all the stuff that we've all done i would say 99 of things have been done by none of us yes well then we better get to work is what i'm saying we got a lot of shit to do i say we start with crabbing and then we just find out what else naturally we don't have to go looking for it, but we find out what else fits in, like fits in the center of that diagram that's never been touched by the three of us. It's like a set and leave sort of thing though, right?
Starting point is 00:35:54 Yeah, but you put like on boots and then you clomp around in the mud and the water. And then I'm, I'm assuming somebody will fall down and that'll be funny and you'll get dirty. I think from what I feel like I've observed of crabbing, you can just walk to the end of like a pier and drop a basket in and then just pull it up. You think it's that fast? Well, yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:15 I don't think, well, I think it depends. You just wait for a bite. You just wait for the line to move. I think you wait like 20 minutes would be my guess. And then you pull the basket up. And if there are crabs,
Starting point is 00:36:24 you're like sweet. You put them in the bucket. And if there are crabs you're like sweet you put Them in the bucket and if they're not you just throw the thing back into the water Oh, yes, I thought you just went up to a crab pool and just picked up a crab I thought why didn't why you need anything else? No, what you got those shallows where the rocks let with the little you're gonna fucking go crabbing with your hands They got they got blades on their arms That's a risky game if you're going into a pool they're coming from all angles They got blades on their arms. It's the most... From the back.
Starting point is 00:36:46 That's a risky game. If you're going into a pool, they're coming from all angles. What are you talking about? There could be a tech in your leg. Yeah, it's going to be like Jurassic whatever the second one was. That's where your Achilles tendon is, dude. They're going to take you down. You're at your most vulnerable right there. Kevin's going to be like, this is no problem.
Starting point is 00:37:01 He's going to be like Peter Stormare in fucking Jurassic 2. And there's going to be a million crabs on him. He's gonna be like Peter storm air and fucking dressing too And there's gonna be a million crabs on Over a log and then just a little blood Well, I think if we all go crabbing I bet I can pick up a crab with my bare hands faster than you can faff about with your boot in your little gears faster than you can faff about with your boots and your little there's if all kinds of crabbing activities that we can do crap we'll have all kinds of like crabbing crabbing competitions i remember andrew i thought you said you were gonna mosey on down to the pier one day and sit and watch for a while and take notes or did i make that up no maybe i don't know i don't remember if i said that via text but if crabbing was what Gavin described, if I knew nothing about it and I believe Gavin, I
Starting point is 00:37:45 would show up with like pillows duct taped to my body and tongs on both hands. Like I'd be, I would not be prepared to just walk in and grab. That's crazy. You just need gloves, I think. I think it's just, they don't get to like jump on your No, I need range. I need tongs. I need tongs on both hands. I don't trust.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I don't trust this. Alright, how big are the crabs in your imagination right now because mine are just like the size of a fist or something yeah yeah they're around that size too i still just don't want to deal with that i don't want it i don't listen i cut my foot the other day i'm scared i'm scared of sharp objects was that when you went outside to get your birthday presents no it wasn't it was inside i how did you how did you do it i was going to bed. It was really late.
Starting point is 00:38:26 It was dark. And I stepped on, there was just a piece of glass on my floor, I guess, that I didn't know was glass. I was moving stuff. And I stepped on it. I was like, ah, I stepped on something. That's annoying.
Starting point is 00:38:37 So I went to brush it off by rubbing it across the top of my other foot. And I just sliced across the top of my foot. And I was like, that didn't feel good so then I just went to bed and was like oh man my foot's sore I think I may have cut it or something I don't know and I woke up and I had blood in my sheets and like this cut across the top of my
Starting point is 00:38:56 foot so I'm very nervous of sharp things right now Gavin I do not want to fuck with these crabs I don't trust it don't run a crab across your skin no they won't so I'll be covered in pillows with my tongs they're not anywhere near me to fuck with these crabs. I don't trust it. Don't run a crab across your skin then. No, they won't. So I'll be covered in pillows with my tongs. They're not going
Starting point is 00:39:09 to hear me. Also, we can bring those little rubber bands that you get on like asparagus and celery and stuff, and then we can snap them around their little pinchers.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I like that idea. Can we get rubber band guns and try to shoot it onto them? Yes. We need more range. And what we should also do, and where I'm going with that is,
Starting point is 00:39:25 once we've got them subdued to the point where they're not a danger to us or each other, then I think we determine who our favorite crab each is, and then we do a crab race. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Like, we make a little track, and then we put them at one end, and then we get to the other end, and we try to encourage our crab. Like, come on, crabby! Come on, old blue! You know, come on, pinchy! Or whatever. And then we see who's one end and then we get to the other end and we try to encourage our crab like come on crabby come on old blue you know come on pinchy or whatever and then we see who who's the best crab racer in addition uh to crabbing in general there's so much crab crab related stuff we can do are we releasing them afterwards are we gonna have no i i don't think
Starting point is 00:39:58 i could kill a crab i think we'd have to you can kill you can't kill a crab you could you could smash its claws shut and make it race. That wasn't my idea. I didn't put that forward. Hey, that's calisthenics, dude. We're not hurting the crab by making it work out. And we're gonna take the rubber bands off at the end. I'm not gonna release a neutered crab back
Starting point is 00:40:18 into the wild and not be able to defend itself. And we could release him back into the wild, free. Maybe one of them will have a tiny trophy it can take with it, but yeah. It'd be awesome to glue a little trophy to his head. It'd be terrible. I don't think we should glue things to crabs.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I don't think we should do anything to crabs. I agree. I don't want to be anywhere near this pool. What do you mean? Do you think on this grand scheme of things, eating them is better than putting something on them? Like, at least in my scenario. I would say catching and quickly dispatching a crab for food is less humiliating and harmful than gluing a crown to its head and binding its claws. No, that's never.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Never do that. Never bind the claws. I don't want to glue anything, but it's funny. You're just like, no, I want to do the more humane thing of killing it and eating it. That's what I would like to do.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Well, I mean, it happens. It does happen. Every day. Chances are, chances are that crab's killed a few things in its life. Every 10 seconds, a crab is killed. I don't even know how you kill a crab.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I think you just stab it, from my understanding. They're pretty hard. That's like a lobster, right? Do you do the same thing with a crab? Fucking look at, Gavin is over here talking about crabs being invulnerable with claws, and he's like,
Starting point is 00:41:43 I'm hopping in the pool. What are you saying? What are you talking about? Do you think you can break a crab's nose? The crab pool. In your analogy, you're like, I'm going to hop into the crab pool and just grab crabs with my hands, and on the other side of it, I'm like, how do you kill them?
Starting point is 00:41:56 And you're like, they're fucking invulnerable. And they have claws for hands. Like, what are you doing? That's reckless. I don't understand. I don't understand I don't understand your logic at all the crazy thing about this is these are all of our pre-crabbing
Starting point is 00:42:12 opinions of how it's gonna go someday we're gonna have a post-crabbing episode and we'll find out how wrong we were about all of it we couldn't be more wrong I feel like the real version would be very boring of us standing on a pier.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I don't think that anything we do will be boring, but I can't wait for our post-Crabbin wrap-up. Think of all the crab-related knowledge that we'll have in our brains after this, and then we can move on to the next thing, and before you know it, we will
Starting point is 00:42:44 have done that 99% of all stuff in the universe. I don't know if I've ever even had crab legs. Like I know I've had crab and like sushi, but I don't think I've ever had crab legs or a dish like that, like a crab based thing that wasn't sushi. Would you rather if we were to have a crab lunch of crab legs, not the crabs that we're going to be catching, obviously, would you rather have that lunch before we go crabbing or after we go crabbing what do you think would be psychologically better for you yeah i think psychologically probably before to be like i think so too we we owned you guys we got yeah not we have the advantage we're clearly in the power position top of the psych yourself up it'll make us feel like you're dead on. We'll be in the power position.
Starting point is 00:43:25 It'll make us feel superior. I would be afraid that if my crab imprints on me or I imprint on it and we develop a connection, there'd be no way I could follow through with eating a different crab later in the same day. What if they could tell and they were more pissed? That is also true.
Starting point is 00:43:42 That's also fucked up. I didn't think about that yeah i don't know that changes everything i didn't consider that as an angle well we're going to find out i guess so maybe yeah i don't know maybe one of us eats crabs beforehand and the rest don't and we just discuss how we feel about it i don't know i don't know how we measure that i don't really like crab not not not a fan of it yeah same i think i've only eaten it once in my life i don't remember anything about it but i feel like i've only had it on the top of a slightly fancy steak in a restaurant once which and it didn't really it didn't really make the steak any
Starting point is 00:44:13 better to me go without you mentioned you're going to vegas jeff i had a realization i'm gonna go buy video games for you this weekend uh well you can talk about that i was actually i was nervous because i texted you about that as i i texted you last night about it and you didn't reply at all and i got very i was nervous i'll be honest with you it's a it was a whole long text about like second guessing and stuff and i already bought the tickets i've already booked the hotel yeah i have a driver like it's too we're too far along to pull the plug now I already have a driver. We're too far along to pull the plug now.
Starting point is 00:44:48 In a Vegas kind of aspect, you want to put your rookie bets down while you're there. I'm going to put all of our rookie bets down. Well, I'll bet for Gavin. I have cracked my gambling code. I figured out how to win. I've come up with a system. Last night, I finally figured it out.
Starting point is 00:45:07 I bet... I'm let me organize these photos so i bet on the royals game the kansas kansas royals kansas city royals and the baltimore orioles and it was the they were going into the seventh inning i want to say and i bet that there would be less than 6.5 runs i believe believe, was the bet. Total? Total, yeah. Okay. And what was the score in the seventh inning at that point when you placed the bet? 0-0? Yeah, so this is the score right now,
Starting point is 00:45:34 or this was the score going into the seventh. Kansas had four runs. Okay. They're going into the seventh inning. I bet that there wouldn't be more than six. If they got seven, I would lose the bet. I'm feeling confident about it. I'm like, ah, they have a lead. It'll be kind of a slow game.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Everything will be fine. Then we move into the seventh inning, and the Kansas City Royals score one more run. Here's what I'm noticing about the Kansas City Royals. They score every other they score every odd inning, and there's nine innings. So you have a ninth inning coming up. Yeah, score every odd inning. And there's nine innings.
Starting point is 00:46:05 So you have a ninth inning coming up. Yeah, so every second inning. So my bet is less than seven runs. Is that what it says, 6.5? Can you get a.5? No, you can't get.5. It's just to set the line. So if I get six, I win.
Starting point is 00:46:20 If it goes to seven, I lose. It's essentially the angle. Under seven would also work. Yes, under seven would be fine. just six which is six I don't that was a weird way of phrasing that less than seven but no well no well yeah okay I'm saying what it doesn't matter it doesn't matter like why is it six and off if there's only six and seven because it can't be it can't be six and a half so if it crosses the seven if it is seven then i would win with seven yeah if it's seven no one wins yeah it's just setting a line that it could be above
Starting point is 00:46:51 or below there has to be a point five so they're going into the eighth inning and kansas now has five runs total i'm getting nervous so then they do nothing. Kansas gets nothing. Can you say Kansas City, please? Kansas City. Okay, thank you. What was that? Kansas City. You just keep saying Kansas. It's driving me crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:12 It's Kansas City. Would it be better if I said Royals? That's fine, too. It's Kansas. Kansas and Kansas City are different places. Okay. Royals. The Royals needed one more run.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I was nervous. And then I stopped watching. I looked again. The Orioles had bases loaded, no outs. And I was like, oh, fuck. This is gonna, as soon as I bet the under, everything shifted. The game shifted. So then I panicked bet, and I took the Orioles to just win. I just reversed my bet, which would then mean that for that to happen, I would need to lose my other bet. But I am such a jinx. Whenever I bet on anything, I lose immediately. I bet on the Red Sox losing. Ten seconds later, they home run and win the game by two. It's just a ridiculous
Starting point is 00:47:57 curse. I realized the success to me winning bets is I need to start fading myself. I will make one bet saying an obvious thing will happen, and then I will bet on the unlikely thing and hope that happens. So then we're in the eighth inning, and in the eighth inning, this is what happens. As soon as I counter my bet,
Starting point is 00:48:17 the Royals score nine runs in the eighth inning. You mean the Orioles do? Yes, the Orioles. Orioles score nine runs. So I bet that it would be under 6.5. Then they score nine.
Starting point is 00:48:33 I panic once it was at six or whatever. I bet the Orioles to win to counter myself. I'm fading myself because once I bet one way, then it will absolutely go the opposite of whatever I said. So the trick is fading myself. I bet one way, then it will absolutely go the opposite of whatever I said. So the trick is fading myself. I bet one way, bet the other way. Orioles score nine runs and it was even a cartoonish thing.
Starting point is 00:48:53 My bad luck is so bad. The runs came in because the Royals tripped each other in the outfield. That was going to be an easy catch in the back to end the inning. And instead, he tripped the guy. He sprinted over
Starting point is 00:49:05 and took him out at the knees which allowed nine runs to happen so was there a grand slam involved there was there are no grand slams but it was like three runs scored in because he tripped his own guy and then so the inning ended they scored nine runs they have a nine
Starting point is 00:49:21 to what five lead at that point I'm like this is great we're going into the ninth inning only one inning left this is what the final score ended up being for the game so it ended up being nine to eight for the orioles i was sweating when the royals were coming back they scored three runs like this is un-fucking-believable. I realize that my bad luck is like a pendulum. So I need to fade myself late, but not too late because it goes back and forth. Once it realizes that
Starting point is 00:49:51 I've made a counter bet, it then has to run back to fuck me over that way. So the key to my betting in the future is fading against myself, but late in the game so there isn't enough time for it to bite me in the ass. Or fade early enough that you can refade at the last second. I can't triple fade.
Starting point is 00:50:09 There's no triple fade? There's no triple fade. That's just losing. That'd be terrible. I mean, I think you could, because you're placing two bets versus one at that point, and two outweighs one. So it's just a matter of how much you...
Starting point is 00:50:22 That's just a bet again. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's true. I texting eric when it happened and when it was eight to nine with them still at bat i was like did i double fade myself holy shit like this is i have terrible luck but yeah that's the key i'm just gonna bet against myself going forward i've always said if somebody faded me they do great i'm gonna be that person i'm just gonna start betting against me do you worry that you're affecting these games i I think the players
Starting point is 00:50:45 will be pissed if they're listening to you. You think they're going to be pissed? Wait till the magic starts happening, dude. Yeah, this is pre-Voodoo. That was my night.
Starting point is 00:50:58 That was ridiculous. I've never seen nine runs scored in an inning before, especially that late when down five to zero. It was a great game. Man, the crowd must have been going ape shit. Nine in an inning before especially that late went down five to zero it's a great game man the crowd must have been going ape shit nine in an inning i feel like nobody was in the crowd i feel like a lot of people had left it seemed like a one-sided game
Starting point is 00:51:14 oh yeah well yeah they did nothing for seven in yeah just to see like it was locked up and then they just scored nine in one inning but it it was more the adventure of fading against myself is going to be a fun journey going forward. Do you think some sort of pep talk happened after the seventh inning? Like, what happened there? It showed an image of Don Zimmer on the back. Rallied everybody. Is it Clash of the Titans or Jason and the Argonauts
Starting point is 00:51:42 that has the gods kind of puppeteering what's happening to the mortals below? Do you think that's what was happening to the people in the stands of that game? They had no idea that Andrew, the betting baseball god, was affecting the outcome of their game, and they were just along for the ride?
Starting point is 00:52:00 It has happened. I showed Eric a different bet before that involved the Padres, and I was like, how do you feel about this? He's like, oh, that's an easy bet. You should do that. And I did it, and then they died. They had a terrible game.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I tanked them. I feel like I can tank teams. I feel like I'm like a long-distance cooler. You're making me a little nervous about this roulette idea we had for this weekend. I gotta be honest with you. Was it a roulette idea or a Keno idea? Roulette.
Starting point is 00:52:26 What an interesting... You're getting your picks in from a different country. That's great. I didn't realize you wanted to do roulette. That's more of a live game than I was... Emily had this idea, Gavin, that while we're in Vegas this weekend, we should go to a roulette wheel and we should have Andrew
Starting point is 00:52:43 run his ball machine and pop a number out and then we bet on that number. I feel like you kind of used up all your luck last week. Well, I don't know. Might be worth trying again. That'd be amazing if that hits. I love that nobody really commented on that
Starting point is 00:52:59 in that episode that came out. And I think it's because people are scared that it was fake. Like they don't want to celebrate it out of the fear that they'll be proved wrong. I think it's because more people would just heard the shift thing and thought it was insane. They were so distracted by the goddamn shift thing,
Starting point is 00:53:13 they never heard that part of the podcast, probably. It's just weird. It was a weird thing that happened. I hope it works for you. I'm terrible with roulette, though, as established, so you need to balance that out against the machine. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm not anticipating winninglette though as established so you need to balance that out against the machine yeah yeah no I'm not anticipating winning but we'll see so what's this Vegas trip
Starting point is 00:53:30 oh Andrew wants me to buy some video games for him that's not true necessarily I wouldn't that's that's technically what's happening I found this place that's selling these video games I want it's in Vegas and I said I found this place that's selling these video games I want. It's in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And I said, I'll go to Vegas. Do you want to go? And you were like, I can't go to Vegas right now because I'm in Canada and it's a whole thing. And I said, well, I'll go for you. I'll go buy your video games for you. That's a different thing. That is a complete, you're right.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I'm joking, but I am going. I was looking for an excuse to go, and this is an excuse, but I really do want to go to Vegas. Yeah, okay. I just needed one reason to go. You were my excuse but i really do want to go to vegas yeah i just i just needed one reason to go you were my reason that's that was just an important clarification because i'd feel terrible if i was and that was the sole motivator of going i don't know i just don't
Starting point is 00:54:15 like the idea of persuading you to do that for that reason i'm collecting some games right now i decided i wanted to try to get some games that i really enjoyed growing up, mainly on the 360, because there's not much collecting happening as far as like sealed 360 games go at this point. And they have a bunch of... And you told me something that blew my mind and might surprise you as well, Gavin. The Xbox 360 is going to be a classic console win? I think 2025, right?
Starting point is 00:54:44 It's when something turns 20 20 so like four years from now yeah it'll be retro the 360 will be in the retro category which is very weird to think so your your cat is retro my cat is retro i have a retro cat but then andrew he started texting me all this stuff last night he was like listen i'm starting to read about this place it seems kind of sketchy i don't want to send you into a bad environment and i'm like am i going to buy xbox 360 games or am i buying meth oh no it's just so i saw a video and somebody was like oh i went game hunting in vegas this is what i found i was like oh that's funny because of what we talked about. And I watched it
Starting point is 00:55:25 and they went to the place and they had a really bad experience. And my anxiety with I want you and Emily to have a fantastic trip. That's way more important to me than those games. So I just didn't want you
Starting point is 00:55:36 to be in any form of uncomfortable or unpleasant experience because of me on your trip. That was purely an anxiety play. I just want you and Emily to have a fantastic time. I was playing. I'm going to have a fantastic time.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I appreciate it. I've already booked some stuff. I was just going to go sometime Saturday in the afternoon, take a cab over there with the list, buy what you need and throw it in my hotel room and go back to go back about my, my sports book, uh,
Starting point is 00:56:02 betting business, uh, which I'll probably spend most of the weekend in the sports book honestly so uh it'll be a an hour and a half inconvenience and if it goes wrong it's content and if it goes right it's less content but still content so i'm cool with it either way it's a great week to go to vegas nfl season starts yeah i made an absurd under bet which there's no way it will hit, but it's fun. I took every game
Starting point is 00:56:27 going under and I think it's ten dollars and it cashes out at like one hundred and sixty thousand dollars if it wins. What are you gonna do with all that money?
Starting point is 00:56:35 Yeah. It buys a lot of 360 games. It does. Nothing. There's no way it hits. I do like about the
Starting point is 00:56:41 under, though. I start every game a winner. I start every game in a winning position. That's true. It is true. I got to go rescue Puss Puss for Henry.
Starting point is 00:56:53 He's going to growl. Just a second. Wait, what is Puss Puss a toy? That's Owl Owl. Have we heard of Puss Puss on the show before? I'm not sure I've heard of Puss Puss yet. I don't. Is that a new toy?
Starting point is 00:57:03 Is that in the rotation? All right. Crisis averted. Wait, is Puss Puss a new toy, Jeff of Puss Puss yet. I don't. Is that a new toy? Is that in the rotation? Alright, crisis averted. Wait, is Puss Puss a new toy, Jeff? Puss Puss is the octopus. It's been there before. We've talked about it. Yeah, I'm familiar with the octopus. That is not a new toy. No, Puss Puss isn't new. I like the naming scheme of the toys. I don't name them. They're just the names that
Starting point is 00:57:19 are given to me by Emily. She's the clever namer. What are the other toys named? Oh, everything twice. There's Puss Puss. There's Owl Owl. There's, I don't know, Bone Bone Dog Dog. I made that shit up.
Starting point is 00:57:36 But it's like whatever you see, just say it twice. And that's what it is. But there's a different rule for Puss Puss because it's an octopus. So it's only the back half. It's not octopus octopus. Yeah. And we say we typically call it owl owl instead of owl owl because it sounds like it's getting hurt when he squeezes it. OK.
Starting point is 00:57:52 So it's like a one syllable. If the name goes beyond two, you're only using the back syllable. I'm sure there's others. I just can't think of them right now. So Gavin's Vin Vin in this name scheme. Vin Vin. in this name scheme. Vin, Vin, Vin.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Gavin is Gavin is Gaver and will forever be Gaver because that's what my daughter called him when she was like two or three. For the rest of my life, he'll be Gaver in my head.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I'd rather be Gaver than Vin, Vin. Vin, Vin is not a good nickname. Oh my God, you're almost going to be spit up. That was a little school school time nickname for a while was Vinny. Really? Wait, you were Vinny? I was Vinny.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Nothing to see in your little ears. That's Vinny. There's no way that's true. Nobody looks at you and says you're Vinny. That didn't happen. Well, it was... Guess what's about to stick? Vinny!
Starting point is 00:58:48 Yeah, imagine the opposite of Vinny Jones. And then there's me. I got just called Vinny and Vincent for like a year by this one... Just people in one class. And then it sort of went away. I just left. Indulge me for a second. I'd like to try something out if you guys don't mind. Okay. Hello and welcome
Starting point is 00:59:05 to another episode of the F*** Face Podcast. Thanks for coming. My name, as always, is Jeff Ramsey. And with me, as always, Andrew Panton and Vinny Vincent Free. And we are here to entertain you this week. I like the sound of that. Yeah? I don't think it was.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I said, Jeff, how about this? Hello and welcome to another episode of the F*** Face Podcast. Hostedff uh and gavin sorry hosted by jeff andrew and vinny i think you gotta put i think you gotta put some flavor on it i think you gotta go welcome to the face podcast i'm your host jeff ramsey along with my co-host andrew pantin and oh motherfucking vinny free and then I think people really get excited, bring a little bit of like the flavor to it. Yeah. People called you Vincent?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Yeah. That doesn't track at all. Yeah, Michael told me his middle name once. I was like, oh, that was my nickname at school. What a shitty nickname. That's coming from somebody who had ANSAC. I'm making fun of yours. You don't come up with your
Starting point is 01:00:09 nickname, do you? No, I'm just saying it's a bad draw. I'm not blaming you for it. It's more of an observation. You got a bad draw on Vincent and Vinny. I don't think it's a bad... Vincent Price? That's a cool dude. It's a very cool dude. Does it fit you at all? I don't see you as a Vincent or a Vinny. I like this nickname thing. What other nicknames did y'all have growing up
Starting point is 01:00:28 navigator navigator same guy they call me vinny i love that this guy was like i'm gonna get one that sticks i'm just workshopping but they actually stuck for like quite a long time He used to call me Gavnav, and then it just became Nav. Gavnav! Gavnav is really good! So Vinny, Vincent, Gavnav, and Ansack. Oh my god, it's like being in German class again. Vinny, Vincent, Gavnav, and Ansack.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Did Eric or Nick have any nicknames growing up? No, nothing. Like, my name doesn't really lend itself to anything like that, but I also did. To be fair, I didn't think Gavin's did either, but here we are. Nick said it's fucking... He sounds like he loves dog toys. No, Gavnav. Can we make Gavnav dog toys?
Starting point is 01:01:26 Oh, that's great. What a great nickname. Nicknames. So did you not have anything good? Either of you. No. Me? Andrew had Anzac.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Yeah, I didn't have the fucking naming genius in my school with me. I didn't have the fucking Akinator or whatever just summoning names, throwing things out there, seeing what will stick. When I was younger, they called me Jeffro. Jeffro would be pretty good. Like Jethro,
Starting point is 01:01:54 but Jeffro. When I moved to Austin at the tech company where we started the day job, they called me G-Funk, which I hated. It's your username on the website. I know. I hate it. I don't know why I ever didn't hate it, but I definitely
Starting point is 01:02:14 hate now. Then you got Raymond Sommar. Yeah, exactly. And Raymond Sommar. Your birth name. Yeah. I would say the shittiest nickname I had is Andrew Pitt. Both names. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:30 That's a bad nickname. Thanks for listening to another episode of... Are we already done? ...starring Jeff Ramsey, Andrew Pitt, and Vinny Vincent Navdab. Nav Nav. Vin Vin. We still didn't talk
Starting point is 01:02:47 about superheroes. I didn't. Oh, remind me. Remind me next week to tell you guys my, my fart story.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Okay, we got. We might as well just ask you every week. Yeah, this one's not me. This is Emily though.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Oh, I'm sorry to my fart story or out of time. Out of time next week. We'll push you to the next show. You got to leave them on a cliffhanger. We do. They're going to be like, I got to know the fart story.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I can't believe I have to wait another week to hear another fart story. Last week, I crammed research for the superhero topic. I felt like it made me go back to a child. I realized nothing has changed. We had a three-week break. I didn't do any of the prep for it until the night before. Yeah, I didn't do my homework until the night before, and I'm nervously trying to get everything done,
Starting point is 01:03:33 and we haven't talked about it in three weeks or whatever since we came back. The best part about that is that my plan is to copy off your work. That is exactly like I should. All right. That is exactly like I supposed to. Alright. Yeah, I'll see you guys next week. Bye-bye. Bye now. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Don't forget to rate and like and stuff. Fucking stars. Everywhere stars. Don't forget the stars. Nick, you gotta leave in the pause there. Yes. That was a real-time pause. That was great.

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