F**kface - Judging Other Countries // Deep Lore About Nothing [86]

Episode Date: January 19, 2022

Geoff, Gavin, and Andrew talk about judging other countries based on name, the ""Sure, I'd be happy to!"" email, breaking down episode 1 of season 4, Gavin's 3 stories, and Andrew ""Sweet Swing"" Panton in the news. If you want to send your towel cards in, send to: Infinity Towel, 1901 e. 51st st, Austin, TX 78724 Want to contribute to bits? Email what you can do to [e-mail] Sponsored by Hello Tushy (http://hellotushy.com/face), HelloFresh (http://hellofresh.com/face16 and use code face16), and Nutrafol (http://nutrafol.com and use promo code FACE). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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this is fucking this would be cool. I just someone did this. Man. Hello. Hi, Gavin. Hey, what's up? Hi, Jeff. What's up?

Hey, what's up? Let's talk about music. I know. Listening to a lot of Vanessa Carlton recently, and there's a whole thing. Annie is just a ripoff of My Bittersweet Symphony, or at least part of it is. It's odd.

It's a fascinating one. Banes accidentally steal songs from each other. But Bittersweet Symphony is a ripoff. Sometimes they on purpose steal songs from each other. I present to you the entirety of Led Zeppelin. That's fair. What do you mean by My bittersweet symphony was is that a thing are you fucking with me are you asking about bittersweet symphony yeah i feel like you could be peter storm airing me right now i feel this feels very storm airish where no i don't quite have it's like a weird instrumental version

of like a rolling stone song that they which also leaves the door open to be stolen from somebody else. So we might not be able to track. Didn't, didn't they originate? Was that the song bittersweet symphony? And you'll, I'll have to apologize. I'm not,

I wasn't super into that kind of music at that time, so I don't know it very well, but wasn't that the song that they ended up losing all their fucking royalties to the Rolling Stones over? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know anything about it. Yeah. It that the song that they ended up losing all their fucking royalties to the Rolling Stones over? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know anything about it. Yeah.

It wasn't? They didn't make any money off the song. Yeah. I thought it was a U2 song. I think at some point they gave it back to the Verve guy.

Hmm. Oh, like we don't need this? Oh, they gave the royalties back a couple years ago. Is that like a power move? Be like, we don't need this song. You can have it.

Or like, we've made all the money on it now. Yeah. You know, we're about to die, so feel free. Yeah. I don't think I can name three Rolling Stones songs. Not a big Rolling Stones guy. Well, hold on to that.

Let me intro. Hello and welcome to another episode of the Face Podcast. My name is Jeff Ramsey. With me always, Gavin Free, the Brit, and Andrew Panton, the Canada guy. And you are listening to episode, uh, season, uh, uh, fuck.

What season? Season four, episode? Season four. Three. Episode. Christ. Three or two. Episode.

Well, yeah, episode three. Season four, episode three. Well, technically two and a half. Season four. We're just gonna go with episode three. Season four, episode three. Technically two and a half. Season four, we're just going to go with episode three. Season four, episode three, overall episode 86, I believe. So have fun making sense of that. Why do we get introduced as Brit and Canada person, but you don't say what you are?

I'm an American, baby. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you why. Because I do the intro. If you want to, I'll tell you what, when you do the intro, you do it. American baby I'll tell you what I'll tell you why I'll tell you what when you do the intro you do it American baby America is default says Eric America is default I agree with Eric

when you do the intro which I highly encourage you to do anytime you want do it however the fuck you want I don't think I've ever heard I mean you say you have I don't think I've ever heard, I mean, you say you have,

there's not, I don't have a memory of a Gavin intro. I'm sure it's recorded somewhere. I don't know if that's true, Gavin. I don't think, I think you've done some outros. I don't think I've,

I've ever heard you do an intro. This sounds like a bet, a bet over the past. Who's gonna win and what are the stakes? I bet you 10 grand I've done an intro. No.

10 grand. Jesus Christ, out the stakes? I bet you $10,000 I've done an intro. No. Jesus Christ. Out the gate. I'm pretty confident. Could somebody, Nick, could you message me on the side? No, don't bring Nick into this. Can you give me a statistics, like the odds of? You're going to cut Nick in. You're like, I'll give you a grand if you help me make this happen.

Go back and edit the old episodes. Oh, there you go. Oh, Nick has pulled the percentages, the demographics. Yeah, US is default, according to this list. Do you want to go through it, Gav? United States. US, 68%.

UK, 11%. Canada, 9%. Wow, we've got the top three. Yeah, not bad. Representing our respective countries. I don't... Why Canada guy?

What did you say for Gavin? It felt wordy. Mine. Well, here's what I said. Because Canadian exists. You know what? If you get Canada into second place, I'll call you a Canadian.

But until then, you're just a Canada guy at 9%. 11% gets you the proper nomenclature. Okay, I can live with that. I'm going to figure this out. I'm going to somehow work the system. New Zealand, 1%. Yeah, well, I wonder who that person is.

That's pretty high. A whole percent for tiny little New Zealand? It's not even on most of the maps. Yeah, we also have 1% in Ireland.land i didn't expect that what an exciting time what place would you least like to visit that's on this list okay well the list yes so should we okay should we go through the so the list is united states united kingdom canada australia which by the way thanks australia six percent appreciate it new ze, Sweden, Ireland Netherlands, Norway, Germany it's one place I've never been to on that list

really? oh let's guess came up in conversation in a recent episode there's two in my mind that are very like obviously bottom tier I'm just judging other countries

just by name I feel like my perception of norway is that they're always in the olympics but they always place like seventh there is a shitty olympic performance no but like good enough to like they're there they're on the first graphic typically but i i feel like i rarely see a nor win. That is the one country I've never been to. There we go! Norway, I was trying to figure out I'd love to go there though. We've been to Germany

together, we've been to the Netherlands together, we've been to Australia the UK we have been to America together, yeah okay. Yeah, the Mexican restaurant conversation that's right chickpeas and celery in the burrito. Yeah, in Norway.

I feel like of all the countries listed, I'm most likely to get lost in the Netherlands. There's just something about the name that I don't trust myself in. Go ahead. I think if I went to the Netherlands, I wouldn't come back alive. I think I would die in the Netherlands.

For what? I don't come back alive. I think I would die in the Netherlands. For what? I don't know. I just don't trust myself in the Netherlands. How are you going to die from their socialized medicine and superior health care? No, I'm sure it's a great actual place, but there's something Do you ever just like

this is going to sound fucking crazy. Do you ever look at a thing and then process a whole scenario in your head that could play out but won't like i could just see when i look at netherlands i process a world in which i'm dead by the end of my trip three days pretty severe catastrophizing i had that recently with a with a seal i saw a seal i saw a photo of a seal in a hole but you just thought i'll lose that fight no no well so i asked like so it was this it was like a gif of a seal like poking its head up and down from a hole and it was like oh look at how cute this seal is and i thought well if i

was there i would be i respect animals they're fucking they're terrifying to me i once had a panic attack with my cat like you got to be aware animals the fuck animals are a crazy thing um so i was like well i was fucking like what would i have done they're like oh this is cute and my head i'd be like we gotta fucking go i was curious do seals do seals attack seals can attack seals can be fucking vicious and they're fast they are apparently that's what this is i if i would fucking run so fast and then i had this whole moment i played out this whole scenario in my head if i was in that fishing hole i would have been killed by that seal that seal would have destroyed me i would have been eaten by that so so your version of luke skywalker in empire strikes back in the dagobah system going through

the swamp and confronting his darkest fear, which is himself as Darth Vader. Your version of that is a vacation to an aquarium in the Netherlands. It would be the end of me. Yeah, because I know I would run away. And I guess you're not supposed to. I guess seals like to chase things. So then I could just see the seal chasing after me. And it was this whole thing.

I went to the bathroom and I googled seal teeth on my phone. I just said, fuck that. When I found, I'll post this photo. I was looking, I was like, fuck this. I'm fucking, I'm dead. I'm dead if I encounter a seal. They got bobbed teeth? Yeah, I don't want to fucking deal with that.

Oh, Lord. That sounds terrible. It's just going to chase me. That's really cool. That looks like a recipe for a broken tooth. How do they hold on to that? Eric asked, how are they going to chase me on land? They strike me as very slippery creatures. They got some movement to them.

Like, yeah, it's a fucking crocodile, alligator, whatever it is. They're faster than you'd think. Or a snake. You wouldn't think a snake could outrun you. I'd like to see a seal go down your slip inside. Oh, my Zim and Glide? Zim and Glide. Get the product. zim and glide zim and glide get the product we're gonna yes it's very different from the slip inside zim and glide um i have a thing that i'd like to talk to you guys about that okay real fast before you do that yeah go ahead can i just say something

sure go ahead i just want to say happy new year happy new year it's our first recording since the since the new year i believe so happy it is it's almost like the latest we could possibly go yeah to have one we're almost seven days in um what was i gonna say fucking i'm now i'm now i'm thinking about you have a thing i have a thing oh it happened it happened new year's eve the thing i'm gonna talk about oh i watch triple x oh i i wish what a time i should have watched all of them there's three of them now i could have done a whole night it's a great trilogy by the way uh i'm gonna how do i want to set this up i'm gonna post this email and then i'll just i'll have one of you read it well have you know i'll have Gavin. I'll have you read

this. I woke up on Saturday morning and I'd received this and it is maybe the most I feel I have faced myself in a long time. It's been a while and send this to you. Feel free to read it. Gavin, you'd say the name of that is that yeah, it's a read the name

of the person and read the text and do it out loud. Okay, an email from New Year's Eve from Kevin Donovan to Andrew Panton. The email reads, sure, I'd be happy to. That's the director of the tuxedo. Oh, no! Oh, no! That was my reaction, Gavin. no oh no i woke up saturday morning and looked at my phone and groggily said oh no

sure i'd be happy to so we have recorded and i'm not sure if it'll be out at this time but we did a commentary for the movie the tuxedo because it's the movie that gavin was most disappointed by from watching the trailer to seeing the final film but if you but you knew that and you thought hey i'll get the director involved well this is listen there were two for failure no we'll get the director involved. Well, this is... Listen, there were two... You're saving me up for failure. No, we'll get to that. Oh, man. So I reached out before,

and I didn't expect... See, I saw this. The way I wrote the email was like, hey, do you have any stories or anecdotes or anything that you could share? Because I thought it would be funny if during the commentary track, I could be like, hey hey i talked to the director

that's a weird random thing this is something he had he had to say about it um that was my plan we have since recorded that commentary we're not kind in a lot of different ways absolutely nothing personal against the guy just the tuxedo is not a good movie um so down um well i'm doubling down on that it's not a good movie i'm not saying it's his fault subjective i don't think it's his fault i'm not saying he's at fault for it but he's he's directed one film and it's the tuxedo and i like i don't know his relationship as far as i can tell he's never talked about the tuxedo post tuxedo so i don't know what his feelings are on it overall as an experience and who knows this fucking making a good anything is really difficult so yeah what if he doesn't like

it well it could be like a mike judge idiocracy type thing where the studio got so or like run ronnie run with the studio got so involved like he had a brilliant jackie chan movie and then the studio got involved because he's a first-time director and they fucking they they all like put their fingers in the pie and ended up muddying it all up so that's a possibility I will say the one thing against that is I believe on his website he refers to the tuxedo as a kung fu movie classic uh which would lead me to believe that he has these favorable opinions about the film well when did the movie come out? 2002, maybe? So 19 years ago, and people are still making podcasts about it?

That sounds like a classic to me, buddy. Sounds like a classic. What if we did a commentary with him on our commentary? We're doing a second. Well, I got to progress this this story so i look at this email and to me i interpret this as he has interpreted my original email as saying that like i want to interview him or talk to him more extensively i was i thought this would go one of two ways either he wouldn't reply at all or he would reply and be like, oh, when we did this, like this happened, like a little story about the movie. I never considered the possibility of it being interpreted as like an interview, which I'd love to do.

I would love to have an interview with Kevin Donovan. And I was hoping that that could even possibly I could come in here today and be like, I recorded an interview with the director of the tuxedo and talk to you guys about that. I feel like I should be up front with him on how much we shout at his movies so he can be mean to us. That's the dilemma, Kevin. Because I want to be kind to Kevin. Like, I have nothing against Kevin Donovan. I'm sure he's a great guy.

But I would feel so disingenuous writing this, like, maintaining this very kind tone, which I have, like, on a human level for Kevin Donovan. But at the same time, maintaining this very kind tone which i have like on a human level for kevin donovan but at the same time i feel like such a dickhead being like hey nice to meet you thanks for replying we thought your movie fucking sucked it was terrible um but i'd love to talk more with you please that'd be great like what do i do like what is i felt so faced and like i don't know you faced yourself there's

no good way out of this there's zero good way out of it the upside the only saving grace is that we had a great time watching it and maybe he'll be happy with that but we did shit on it we show a lot it was a lot i i do like the idea of doing a director's commentary on our commentary. Like, I like the idea of getting him involved and having him do... I wonder what the most nested series of commentaries over a property is. Like, what if we just did a commentary over our tuxedo commentary, and then, like, every two months, we just do another commentary on top of that. I think it's really funny if we end up-

We just go forever. If we have a more extensive bonus feature section for the tuxedo than the release of the tuxedo had. Like what we're offering is better than the DVD final package. What was in the DVD bonus stuff, Gav? Because you were a big fan of judges' commentaries and bonus features and stuff.

Was it? Well, on movies I Was it during the time where they were like interactive menu? You remember that? Like when DVDs were coming out they put that as a feature. Interactive menu. You could click stuff. Like that was like a big... Some DVD menus would go

all out. They would. They would put so much up and some would just be like text on a plain background. I have never cared about a DVD menu. We used to go out of our mind when we would make those red versus

blue DVDs. They were class. Piling on extra features and Easter eggs. We would have like 40 or 50 Easter eggs per DVD.

Just tons of shit. Yeah. You know you go to like chapter select and then like chapter five to eight and then press down and it would like take you to a secret.'s cool stuff like that there are some cool things

that is cool that is awesome i i don't like the ones where like it would be a sequence and then they'd loop you back like your menu would freeze for a second and then would restart the sequence i don't want a freezing menu right i think i think for a first-time director who was working with a lot of money and some of the biggest stars in the world at the time, and he pulled it off, and I'm just disappointed in how hateful you both are towards this film. Not hateful.

Which I don't remember expressing any discontent with at all. Yeah. I count myself a fan of Kevin Donovan. I bet you 10 grand you didn't. That's the other concern with this is I don't remember specifically what we said in the commentary track. Like, I can't...

I don't know what I'm defending fully. Yeah, I feel the same way. I just know there's a lot of it. I don't remember exactly what we said. I just know we were treating it very much like the director wasn't listening to us. Yes. And never would. Absolutely not that we would contact him and make ourselves known to him as we were doing it.

So that was my dilemma. I woke up Saturday both excited that, holy fuck, I can't believe Kevin Donovan actually replied. How do I reply to this and i had the same dilemma as gavin brought up of like i feel like if i'm just super nice i can immediately get this done but that feels super wrong and disingenuous and i need to how do i approach how do you tell someone that the thing the one movie they made you thought was really bad this might be one of the rare scenarios where being nice is the meanest you could be that's a great way of looking at it um so i replied i will okay oh god i wrote back on monday and then i had this realization because it took a few days obviously there was some time period between when i sent it and when it arrived i had the realization that it is so classically us

that i like in the original email, I didn't really say anything about what our show was or, or, or what kind of the tone of it is just that we were doing a thing with the tuxedo. And I'd love to tell him the name question. No,

I don't think I did in the first email. Um, well without a direct link, our podcast is impossible to find. So we're probably safe. Yeah. Well, well,

I sent that in the second email. I provided a direct link, our podcast is impossible to find, so we're probably safe. Yeah, well, I sent that in the second email. I provided a direct link. God damn it! Andrew! I provided a direct link, and then I had the realization that by the time he probably gets around to looking at that email, if he were to decide, like, I'm going to give this show a chance,

the episode he would listen to is the most broken and chaotic episode think about the one that came out on wednesday this past wednesday the one where i tried to print the law and everything broke down that will be his introduction to this show well apparently according to almost every comment i saw on that episode it's the best one we've ever done. So maybe we're lucky. People fucking loved that. Oh my lord. I thought it was a train wreck. I like that we came away from that thinking we had 18 minutes of

Andrew's audio. Nick, how many minutes did we actually have? We had most of the backup, but zero of the raw recording right so zero okay thank you for bringing that up pivot away from kevin donovan for a moment i meant to mention this i forgot i did there was a point time in which i was back in and i could hear you guys talking but i couldn't talk at all but i could hear everything you all were saying and i i felt like there was a point in which gavin was snitching on me for pausing my recording the previous week

in a panic and then definitely yeah i heard that or i caught the tail end of that and then gavin you made a point where you were like why didn't why didn't we just pause for like three minutes have andrew reboot his computer and then just get on so this would be fine. It takes like 20 minutes for my computer to reboot, but I was so annoyed with you. I was like, fucking you don't think I'd fucking, okay, I'm gonna fucking reset it and I'll reply in an hour when it turns back on. So I

start holding down the power button on my computer while everything's fucking broken and then I remembered, I haven't saved, we did two episodes that was the second one i did not save the recording for my first one because it takes like 10 minutes to save and we're going back to back so i'm holding the power button and then i realized that i haven't saved my first recording i'm gonna lose it if i turn my machine off so then i let go of the power button and i

spent the next 15 minutes frantically trying to save before the chain of events realized that it was supposed to turn my computer off. And I was just a frantic mess behind the scenes trying to just make sure I didn't lose literally all my audio. I'd given up on that recording being useful, but I also almost punted away the perfectly fine recording for the first one we did on that day. Oh, Andrew. What? Oh, yeah. I'm just reading what Nick said. I understand what he's saying.

Oh, yeah. Nick was terrified. My heart was beating fast, too, Nick. Well, if your computer wasn't choking on the law, I assume it would have rebooted. Oh, it would have died so quickly. Yeah. Saved by the law. It was. I was saved by the law. It was.

I was saved by the law. Here's what I'll say about Kevin Donovan. I don't know how this is going to end. I assume you're not done, Andrew, with the story and that it'll probably go somewhere. But I will say, and I had a light bulb moment just now, if things don't go well with Kevin Donovan, what we will have is our first enemy of f***face. No. I don't want to be enemies of Kevin Donovan. I don't either, but he might want to be enemies with you, and there's nothing I can do about that.

And if he's an enemy with you, then he's an enemy of us because we're a team, right? So I'm just saying, there could be like a f***face list of f***faced haters, and he might just be number one on it think of like this no no we're not it's it's bound to happen at some point right i i know we i know you've you've already run afoul of the of the legal lawyer people by continuing to to hide on their system for a long time i still get emails occasionally i don't i don't count them as friends of the podcast so oh i think they're friends no i'm part of i'm involved with i'm there i'm in there I still get emails occasionally. I don't count them as friends of the podcast. Oh, I think they're friends. No, I'm involved.

I'm there. I'm in there. I'm just comfy. Okay. Are you talking about the lawyers or the judges? The judges. The judges, yeah. Yeah.

I still get emails from higherjudge.com. What is a judge, Gavin, but a lawyer who got a promotion? Because I think we're enemies with both. I think we're also enemies with two dipshits in a lot um so i replied i replied to kevin donovan and i i wrote like first the first section of it was very sweet and i'm not going to read the email but it was like very much like it's so nice to hear from you thank Thank you so much for getting back to us. And then the second, the second part.

Yeah. The second part is the pivot of I just want to be up front with you because I would feel wrong doing so. Otherwise, we made fun of the tuxedo quite a bit. We made a lot of jokes. I said something like that along the lines. This is where I probably made another mistake. I was very polite. I feel like I wrote as kind of like a, hey, we shit on this thing that you worked on,

as I could. I felt like I needed to show that I was, I don't know. This is a weird, like I had to put something on the line. I had to put something on the line I had to put stakes on the line so I was like if you have any questions uh feel free to email me back here or you can text me at this number and I gave him Kevin Donovan has my personal cell phone number so he can just text me at any point you have so many different phone numbers why did you give him your real personal

one because i i i don't know it just seemed like i wanted to be like listen i'm coming from a genuine place this feels so much if i was in his position i think it would feel like a trap or that is you wouldn't text surely you wouldn't even bother like someone says hey we shout in your movie feel free to text me like it's a helpline like what do you what are you expecting him no i don't i just like that is a personal thing that could go wrong like i felt like i was wagering something at that point like i was putting something of value on the thing you were giving something back i was yeah this movie like not hey i i shat on this movie. Like not, hey, I shat on your movie and I want to be friends with you to the point

where I'm letting you have personal direct access to me whenever you want. We shouldn't let you talk to people. No, I'm great at talking with people.

I got, I'm talking to Kevin Donovan. It was a timing issue. It wasn't a talking to people issue. So between, if I'm Kevin Donovan, I start a new podcast called Fuck Sedo,

and I just shit on our podcast for an hour every week. That'd be really funny. I'd actually like that a lot. I still don't... You're acting like, oh no, look what's happened. It's unfortunate.

You still reached out to him in the first place knowing that we didn't like this movie. No, I did it before. I did it before we recorded it. Before what? Before we recorded it. Yeah, but we already didn't like the movie. But you knew you didn't like it.

It's like, hey, Cosmic Crisp, we love your apples. I want to talk to you. Hey, Kevin Donovan, your movie stinks. I want to talk to you. I have more anger with Cosmic Crisp than Tuxedo. But the Tuxedo, I was open to liking. I remember watching it as a kid and not being the biggest fan of it. But I went in hopeful that I would have a better experience.

And I had a great time. It came up in conversation because I named it as my most disappointed I've ever been watching a film. Yeah, but I don't agree with every fucking opinion Gavin Free has. Why am I held? My opinion is more valid or important. I'm just saying that's how it came up. That's not that's not

the reason to reach out to the people who made it. Yeah, but you have ridiculous opinions about the new Matrix movie, too. So I don't know how to

evaluate your movie texts could be wrong. You don't know, man. I don't know. Did Kevin call or text you? I have not heard back from Kevin Donovan

since I replied with my phone number and that episode has released. You sound like a fucking stalker. That's probably why. It's like, hey Kevin, let's hang out. Here's my number. Give me a call if you want to. Where do you live, by the way? What's your address? Would you mind if I came visit? What do you like for lunch? I'll bring sandwiches.

No. It was a nicely written email. I think I don't know. would be i'd be surprised if we hear back but i'm hopeful i have questions for like i genuinely have questions about that movie i want to know why james brown is in it i want to know if there's a list of suit functions that they didn't cover are there any edited suit scenes what is it like working with jackie chan because like he openly hates all of his American movies. That must be a weird thing.

I would want to know because these things always happen on film sets, right? You work intensely together for months and months and months. I wonder like what lifelong friendships he built in the process of making that film. Like, are he and Jackie Chan's are he and Jackie Chan's close and they still send each other Christmas cards? You know, yeah. Does he have Jackie Chan's phone number? It's funny you mentioned that he filmed a commercial with Jackie Chan's close and they still send each other Christmas cards? You know? Yeah. Does he have Jackie Chan's phone number? It's funny you mentioned that.

He filmed a commercial with Jackie Chan in like 2018, I want to say, maybe a bit earlier. So he has done like he didn't stop there. There could be a deeper connection. Do you think Jackie Chan remembered him? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I do. Kevin Donovan. I hope I hope I get a reply back. I'd love to hear from Kevin Donovan. I hope I get a reply back.

I'd love to hear from Kevin Donovan. What questions? Do you guys have any questions you would like to ask? Ask Kevin Donovan? Yeah. What did you think when you heard, when you received this initial email or contact from Andrew?

And what do you think now? You guys are going to do your own Kevin Donovan interview about his interaction with me are you Eric are you mad at us will yeah here's my here's my question for Kevin Donovan will you accept my apology

I was very excited about that I was excited to bring that to the show I wish that in my head it would have been really funny if i had an interview with kevin donovan as well but i just hope he doesn't hate us is where i currently stand with kevin donovan i'm just i'm glad you're honest with him well i kind of wish you'd never talked to him in the first place yeah truly honest but why why why i mean why why because now we have a hate list and he's at the top

of it and now we have a competitive podcast on the way out called the fucksedo that's just gonna shit on us all day long I would genuinely

love to have a talk Kevin Donovan I am more as I said I'm more upset with Cosmic Crisp than I am Kevin Kevin Donovan

and Tuxedo I think they're a bigger rival to us I don't know I don't know what that means. Why are you upset with Cosmic Chris, who, by the way, should cut us in on their Apple profits because we have sold so many fucking apples

for those people. Not only that, Jeff, that's why. That's why I'm getting into it. I've been sent screenshots of fucking Cosmic Chris promoting YouTube content. They're out there promoting content, and they haven't worked with us? It's weird that you wouldn't see a tweet from cosmic crisp the apple company saying hey check out face yeah what's more synonymous with apples than face we are an

apple podcast i get you're making a joke there gavin but we have we have done more for the cosmic crisp than maybe everybody outside of those who invented it. Yeah, it's fine. But no one's ever going to talk to us because of our stupid name. We f***ed ourselves. We f***ed ourselves. When you talk to people, maybe I'm sure I haven't. When you talk to people that don't know about the podcast and like you're trying to bring them into the world, how do you describe?

Do you immediately feel the need to describe what the name references references i don't think i've ever told anyone about this podcast i don't think i have either every time as soon as i'm like the show is called face and then i'll always add it's a reference to a baseball card air like i immediately go into like, you have to clarify. It's a great name. I've even had to do like little like interview bits and stuff with our marketing department about like, hey, we need a soundbite or we need to like a little two paragraph thing about what face is about and stuff. I don't even like doing that.

I'm just like, it's just a podcast about nothing. I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know how to explain it. Yeah, I don't want to. There's no way. There's no way to do it without having to start like unraveling a fucking ball of string that never ends sure no so i just i prefer not to i just say uh you know what don't listen to it it's not a big deal

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What? You described that like you're fucking Peter Molyneux. Like you're going to sell me on a video game. Do you remember like the first... What? You described that like you're fucking Peter Molyneux. Like you're going to sell me on a video game. Like you're on a stage and be like, you started as a child and as you grow, you gain more stories that enrich the lore of this universe. Sorry.

Forget that. That's obvious, isn't it? That's obvious. But do you remember like the first stories you used to tell people? Like I'm not talking about like here's what i did at school today mom i'm talking about like a story that you thought was good enough to remember and tell other people yeah do you yeah i remember three that i used like my three go-to stories oh yes i thought that i thought at the time I thought they were absolute bangers

And I must have been What age was I? I was riding around on bikes Maybe like 7 or 8 One of my stories was That I watched my friend ride his bike And he tried to spit at me But it blew back in his face I thought that was an amazing story

Another one was that my friend Got it blew back in his face i thought that was an amazing story another one was that my friend got a football stuck in his tree so he threw a broom up to try and get the football down and the broom got stuck i thought that was an absolute knee slapper and my last story the last ghost story was that it was once it was once so windy that it rang the doorbell which i still think i still think that's a bad story. Those are bad stories. I think I should retire. I retired the first two,

but I think it was the wind rang the doorbell is still a good story. I think I've told two of those, two of my stories on the podcast probably. One is that I tried to set up that bit where you dump water on somebody's head when they walk in a door by putting the bucket on top of the door.

But I didn't tie it to anything, so when my mom opened the door, a full bucket of metal and a bucket of water hit her in the head and I knocked her out. And there was that story I think I've told about how I jumped that ramp on my bike that everybody said I couldn't do,

and when I landed, both of my tires popped, and there was a bunch of smoke, and I thought I had died, and I had heard myself die, and I had to wait for the smoke to settle to realize I was still alive. And the other one that's probably my oldest story that I don't remember enough to tell it accurately

is I remember playing there was a hilarious sequence of events playing a game of Uno in the first grade with my friend Scott and I remember he said I don't have any reds in a really funny way and I probably told that story until I was like 15. I wish I could remember it now.

I thought that was the and I'd be like yeah and then Scott said I don't have any reds. And I'm like laughing and people are like, what the fuck? Okay. But, you know, when you're nine, it's hilarious. You were nine in the first grade? Oh, I don't know.

How old was I in the first grade? This is Alabama. So I might have been 16. I don't remember. So those are the first stories that you remember telling? Like the ones that you would cycle around? Those are like my bangers that I'd bring around. Oh, and the time...

I used to tell these other two stories. One, I loved telling this story because I thought it made me sound like a badass. I was digging. My friend had a pile of dirt in his backyard because they were doing some landscaping. And that same kid, Scott, and I were digging uh with shovels and i got behind him and i wasn't paying attention and he swung the shovel behind him and hit me in the forehead and

split my forehead open and i was just gushing blood and i went to his mom and i said i need to i need stitches i need a band-aid or something and she looked at me and she said i have to take care of the baby you need to go home and i had to ride my bike home covered in blood and my i was a latchkey kid so my mom was at work so i I just sat in the bathroom crying with towels on my head while I just fucking bled like an inch over my eyeball. And then another time, the other friend we had, a kid named Casey, we were at a construction site and there was a little fire there that somebody had built at night, the kids or something. And it was still going, so we put a ramp and we were jumping over construction site and there was a little fire there that somebody had built like at night the kids or something

and it was still going so we put a ramp and we were jumping over it on our bikes and he hit it wrong and fell and I thought he was going to fall into the fire but he didn't instead he fell and impaled his neck on rebar Jesus Christ yeah I'm not kidding dude yeah through like the side of his neck

and came out the other end and he goes what I swear to God I swear to God and he he stood What? Yeah, through like the side of his neck and came out the other end. And he goes, ah! What? I swear to God. I swear to God. And he stood up. He like popped it off. And there was like blood. And I just ran him home.

What? Didn't hurt him. I mean, it went one. It was like the tail on the far right of his neck. Like if you pull your neck out, it just like pierced it right there. Oh, Jesus Christ. And it bled, but it didn't hurt it.

It didn't hit anything important. It was just stitches and a terrified trip to the emergency room and i don't think he was allowed to hang out with me after that i think i for some reason got all the band he he's like sean of the dead at his own neck yeah this would have been 1983 probably 1982 yeah it was fucking gross and scary yeah that was a yeah... It was horrendous. Man, that's a way better story than the broom. No, I don't know.

The broom's pretty good. Because how did he get the broom out? I didn't get nearly enough credit for getting Casey home that day. I got in a lot of trouble. And I fucking saved that kid. But whatever. What about you, Andrew? I know I put you on the spot.

Oh, man. Yeah, no, I'm trying to think. I don't i don't well no i got i'll think about this more there are two that immediately come to mind i remember being like i don't know maybe five years old i was at my grandparents house and my my grandpa was talking to our neighbor jan and i decided that like oh i want to get in on this conversation i'm gonna need to have a real banger of a story to like cut in and wow the room and so it was like there's like a cop show on tv and then i walked out and i was like i'll just make up like

some story i'll be like i walked out and i said something like did you just see that on the news there's this guy who like solved crimes and he dodged like eight bullets and then i like five year old brain i was like this is the coolest story ever and they immediately said oh that must have like that that was a show or you that that was that's not real that's not what you just said didn't actually happen and i i just walked away dejected it didn't they just shut you down they shut me down immediately and it didn't it was fair to the other story it's not so much a story this is just embarrassing i remember getting x Xbox Live when I was like 10. And as a 10 year old playing Xbox Live, this was a time where people actually talked on Xbox Live. There were party chats.

So you'd go in the lobbies. And I had like my go to move at that time because it's like 2004 and I'm a 10 year old. I would like essentially every conversation I'd be like, so you watch Family Guy. That was like my cut in to it. And I had, it was set up in the living room and I joined like a lobby once. And, uh,

as soon as I joined, I was like, Hey, am I mom from the kitchen? Went, so you guys watch family guy making fun of me. And I've ever since that moment have a hyper awareness. If I'm in a room with anybody else that I'm talking,

I was, it might be the most embarrassed I've ever been in my life and to this day i struggle with talking with somebody else in the room like if it's a phone call it doesn't matter what it is because the family got and that's just burnt into my brain so she just knew you that you were gonna say it oh she knew because i said it fucking 97 times a day. Every time I joined a Halo lobby. So she just immediately said it. And it just was. Because I knew how lame it was.

Even at that time. But to get called out on it. Is that why we can't do this podcast in person? Because you're still. Yes. That's the only reason. I'm starting to realize why you are the way that you are. Really? What was that?

What did you uncover from that? You got from there to the pencil. What did that make you realize? I don't know, just people just, like, chewing down your confidence, and then you're just, like, overthinking stuff to the point where you're just an insane person. Well, I... Okay. Makes total sense.

It's funny that you say that, because I had one of those recently. I recorded a second episode of the Q&A thing that I'm doing. And one of the questions was, what is your favorite holiday treat? And I opened with, is eggnog a treat? Like, I went in on eggnog specifically, a thing I've never had. And Eric called me out for it. And he's like, you are a psychopath. The question is, what is your favorite? Why are you talking about a thing you've never had and eric called me out for it and he's like you are a psychopath the question is what is

your face why are you talking about a thing you've never had the reason why i did that is because that was the third version of that recording i had done and i didn't want to answer it in the exact same way that i answered the previous recording i didn't like how they came out the other two so that was the third time i had answered that question and I felt like even though nobody would hear the other two in My head it was lame to use the same answer over and over again So it's like how do I switch this up a little bit? I'll make a little comment about eggnog and it just seems insane Like the idea of like a celebrity doing interviews

But they never want to answer the same way like on all the talk shows they just start telling lies and making up shit it's not telling lies i was just like how can i how no but i i was saying i'm like i never said i did i said is it is it considered a holiday treat because i never had give that answer though because the thing that i was bringing up to you is the question was what's your favorite holiday treat and you said is eggnog a holiday treat I've never had it yeah because it wasn't what's your favorite holiday treat you've never had no you fucking you guys are missing the thing entirely

I'd answered that two times already and I just answered clearly like these are what I view as since it was my third time I didn't want to duplicate that so in the moment I'm like how can I spice this answer up a bit I'll do a thing about eggnog i'll talk about eggnog for like 10 seconds and then i'll get into the exact same thing i know that that's how my brain works i'm saying this is how gavin's right i'm overthinking this thing that nobody's gonna hear but i'm like i can't say the same

you've been left with this weird level of confidence where you overthink everything and then you over correct and just go blasting in with all this crazy confidence in other directions. Nothing works about you. That's maybe the meanest thing anyone's ever said

to me. I don't think it's mean. I don't think it's true i think lots works on you it just works weirdly yeah it just nothing works as you'd expect and what it produces is actually a very nice and very funny person but that's it's it's all built on what nice unless Nice, unless your name is Kevin Donovan. That's a... Well... No, I was nice to Kevin Donovan. All my interactions with him.

Directly. I would argue that reaching out to him at all is not nice. Really? I don't view it that way. Knowing what was coming, I do. Jeff, I like the men bridges. That man could have lived in blissful ignorance for the rest of his life, not bothering to know that the three of us hated his fucking movie.

But you chose to initiate contact. You chose first contact. Nah, I don't know. I don't see, I don't, I disagree. I respectfully disagree. I think there's a world in which we become great friends with Kevin Donovan, and none of that would have been possible without him. Well, I hope so. I hope so.

Hell of a recovery. Imagine if Kevin Donovan directs the Childkicker movie. We're going to make that into a thing. Best case scenario, Kevin Donovan becomes a full-time member of this podcast.

I would love to have... Maybe he's the piece we're missing. Can we... I don't know. Maybe like do... I don't know. Get Kevin Donovan involved in some way.

I'd love to have Kevin Donovan. If he gets involved, I'm buying him like a hamper or something. We've got to make some sort of nice chest. I agree. I'd love to get Kevin Donovan. If he gets involved, I'm buying him like a hamper or something. We've got to make some sort of nice chest. I agree. I'd love to get a fruit basket,

maybe like some nice jams. I don't know. Yeah. Cosmic collection of jams. Maybe. I don't know. We'll figure that out. We could send him an apple basket

that you weave. I don't know if that will mend. Without context. There's no context. A man just receives a poorly woven basket I don't know if that will mend without context. There's no context. A man just receives a poorly woven basket full of a specific apple, and he just goes, what did I do? What if a Canadian sent me a crushed tumbleweed in the mail? So I had Kevin Donovan, and I had one other thing uh that i wanted to to talk about

that is a very funny funny discovery i have a new i have a new nickname i have a new nickname oh that is uh exciting um somebody emailed in somebody emailed this to me they were they were looking through like just news archive stuff. You know, like they're just searching different news clippings, whatever. And they found a news clipping of me when I'm like seven playing tennis. You were in the news? I was in the news. I remember this happening, too.

I used to do tennis lessons at this place. But I was in the news. They filmed it probably as trying to do advertising for their tennis program that they're doing let me foster sewing machine it is a continuation this is the entry point of me eventually learning the sewing machine let me introduce you to andrew sweet swing panton oh my god you're adorable adorable. I was expecting some distant photo of a bunch of... They're treating you like you're freaking Roger Federer. Look at the picture. The wording on it is really funny.

Andrew Payton keeps his eye on the ball in preparation for his return during the tennis lesson. No, he does not. Your eyes are nowhere near that ball, dude. You are spiking the lens. The phrasing of the return is like, I am like this tennis prod nowhere near that ball dude there look you are spiking the lens the phrasing of the return is like i am like this tennis prodigy that got hurt and i'm not coming back out of retirement yeah so i feel so bad i'll credit next time next episode i'll give proper credit to the person who found this so the person found it and they're like this is look at this

ridiculous thing i found they then took it even further and they made andrew pant and sweet swing rookie cards there are there's this is an existence they went to the tops website good they made a collection of andrew sweet as a rookie we need to sell those in our card thing someday that's brilliant the fact that it's taken from a black and white newspaper clearly make i you could look at that and have no idea what year that was oh it's probably easily be from the 40s i guess the tennis racket style gives it away it looks like night it looks like 1975 to me it's 19 i'd say 99 would be my guess what what brand uh racket are you rocking there oh that's a good uh head

maybe is that is that one of the... I was always a Slazenger kind of guy. I've never heard of Slazenger. Is it head? Oh, it is head. Look at me. I fucking called the logo. I swing a babalat myself. A babalat? Babalat. Although I can't play

tennis anymore right now. But when I get back to it. Dude, you're a cute kid. You know why I can't play tennis anymore right now. But when I get back to it, dude, you're a cute kid. You know why I can't play arthritis and injuries. I thought it was because you're training to throw a faster ball. I can't even get to the training yet right now because of all the other issues.

But that's okay. I don't want to talk about me and my broken old ass body. Jeff, do you remember when you committed to hitting a thousand baseballs? Dude, the baseballs are in. I got to do that. What do you remember when you committed to hitting a thousand baseballs? Dude, the baseballs, the baseballs are in. I got to do that. What do you mean

they're in? Mallory told me the baseballs are here. But you can't do that. There's no way that you can. If you're not in a state in which you

can't play tennis, you can't hit a thousand balls. Well, I can't play tennis for fun, but I can hit a thousand balls and do more damage to myself for, you know, my job. I'll do that. Well, I can't play tennis for fun, but I can hit a thousand balls and do more damage to myself for, you know, my job.

I'll do that. That's sad. I know. There's no way. I think you might die if you hit more than, I'm going to say 115. I'd put that at your level. Eric, can you get that set up?

Thanks, bud. Appreciate it. God, we're almost an hour in already. I love that photo of Patton so much. That is such a great photo. Why? What about it? It's just like really,

it's like a really good picture. Can we put on a shirt? I don't, I've never looked that cool in a still image in all my life. I don't think I look cool in that photo at all. You do. I guess't, I've never looked that cool in a still image in all my life. I don't think I look cool in that photo at all. You do. I guess like I, like how many,

how many kids have like a properly professional action shot taken of them? That is, you know what? I will say that that photo has more of an action shot than 90% of the baseball cards we open. It's true. Balls in frame. It is a good photo. Between that and your men in black photos dude

i can't wait to see what else you've got you're holding on to i don't i think those might be the greatest hits i fellow i remember the men in black getting that for halloween and like running the suits and like having to lie that i was going to a wedding for it that's like my main memory are we gonna post a story i hope so what are we gonna do i was trying to a wedding for it. That's like my main memory. Are we going to post those with Tuxedo? I hope so. What are we going to do? I was trying to think. There's another photo.

I want to make posters and sell them. I want the world to have it. It's genuinely the last time I wore Tuxedo, and I think there's only one other time, and there's a photo of it somewhere that I'll try to find. It's a terrible photo. I think I've only worn it twice.

Tuxedo. Well, does anybody have anything else they want to cover before we end? Not anything that I would say is expansive. I have one little thing, if Gavin or...

This is more of a directed to the audience. I tried to mention this a couple episodes ago but we i got distracted but i have uh i've been thinking a lot about um well first off let me say i've been hanging out a lot in uh laundromats and i'm really into it i'm really digging laundromats these days why uh well they're they're like they're they smell good first of all and they're warm on a cold day not Not that we have a lot of those. And they're empty, and there's like a rhythmic thumping and sound of all the machines going on at once. It's quite...

But you're not doing laundry. Courted. And I'm doing laundry. You are doing laundry. Yeah, no, I don't hang out at laundromats just to hang out yet, but I could get there. You made it sound like you were, because I assume you have a washing machine. I do, I don't hang out at laundromats just to hang out yet, but I could get there. You made it sound like you were because I assume you have a washing machine. I do, I do. But, you know, Henry, the bulldog, you know, he has problems with his pee-pee and sometimes at night.

And so he wears a diaper. And then sometimes it doesn't get it or sometimes he wiggles out. And sometimes the, you know, the sheets, the duvet and everything get a little Henry on them. the sheets, the duvet and everything get a little Henry on them. And it's hard to wash king-size duvets and dry them in my washer and dryer. So we've started going to the laundromat where you can knock it out in no time at all, like in those industrial dryers and industrial washers. And I just quite enjoy the laundromat. So I've been thinking, maybe into my post-Rooster Teeth, post-podcasting career, when it's time to settle down and retire, I don't think I'll ever want to stop working. But what I do think I want to do is open up a laundromat. I think that might be

my second act, is being a laundromat owner. So I wanted to talk to the audience. If anybody out there owns a laundromat, has experience running or managing a laundromat, what was it like? Did you enjoy it? Is it as much fun as I think it would be? Is it profitable? I'd love to know. Just email Andrew and then he can filter all that to me. And yeah, I just I would love to hear your laundromat feedback or your personal experiences

with laundromats because I'm really fucking jazzed about them right now. It's weird that that was like the one appliance that could be put in a different building and run as a business like you don't you don't get a business that's just like 18 fridges and you could just keep stuff cold like a freeze on that yeah like if you can't if you have room for your own fridge just keep your shit in a fridge of that yeah or like oh do you do you need to actually need some extra space for your casserole come on over to oven that you call ahead we'll preheat it to whatever you 425 it'll be waiting for you you just text the preheat to the oven

anyway i would love to if you've ever worked in a laundromat or owned one, please let Andrew know and he can let me know. I don't think I've ever been inside one. I want to check.

Maybe I'll wash some, yeah, maybe a big deal. Come on to the laundromat with me someday. Hang out with me at the laundromat and we'll spend some time together. It'll be fun.

I like that I started off as a fan of Rooster Teeth and I end up later in life doing laundry with one of the guys that started it in a laundromat. We're just hanging out doing our laundry. That's great. I'd love to do that. Yeah, I've had, constantly reinventing yourself

and trying to be funny and create new products and share all of these foibles. At some point, I'm going to be tired of that. And man, laundromats smell good and they're the perfect temperature and they have a nice hum and they're empty. People come in, they throw their clothes in, and they leave. That's also something I like about laundromats,

or at least the laundromat I've been going to, is that there seems to be, it seems to be populated and propagated by decent human beings that understand that they're all in the same boat. You know? Like, I remember when I lived in an apartment complex, I would do laundry, and sometimes I'd come back,

and I'd be like, somebody stole my fucking pants. Somebody else out there is a 32, 29, be like, somebody stole my fucking pants. Somebody else out there is a 32, 29 or whatever and stole my fucking blue jeans. That doesn't seem to happen at a laundromat. People seem to be respectful of each other's stuff.

And I appreciate that too. It's like, it's like a place where decorum still exists in the world. It does seem like there's a very unique person. I don't know, like personality

isn't the right word. I feel like if you discover, once you discover the laundromat, you don't go back unless you are in a situation which like if it makes sense to use laundromat for your lifestyle or whatever, it would be extremely useful. I wonder what the maintenance is like. I have when you have to clean them. And I mean, potentially you've got like 40 plumbing problems about to happen. I was trying to get in, get behind and kind of look at the machinations of it and stuff and i i i get a sense that because these machines look old as dirt but they still seem to be running fine i think they're built to last i'm sure that there's maintenance i'm sure uh there are problems you have to deal with i imagine it would be quite. It would have been a quite a scary place to own in the freeze last year.

But, uh, I get the impression all the time. Yeah. I get the impression that, I mean, it basically runs itself, you know,

that they're there. You just provide electricity. There's a thing you can go buy soap and shit if you need to. It's all coin operated. All you have to do is have a change machine in there. And then like, I've been in that laundromat probably four or five times over the last few since thanksgiving and i've never seen anybody working there yeah i was about to say i feel like it would be great for money laundering

you don't really need a staff it's just like a business in the name yeah it's a little on the nose then at that point isn't it would be like obnoxious to make a laundromat your money laundering operation you should see if you could call it money oh eric said the same thing to call it money laundromat and see if it raises any well i wasn't sure what what today's podcast was going to be like coming in uh but I quite enjoyed it so uh obviously this is coming out I don't know third week of January or something but this is was recorded on well it was recorded on January 6th uh so I liked it it's that first time I've talked to you guys in the new year so I just want to say I enjoyed it and I hope you guys are

having I hope you had a good New Year's Eve and I hope you have a good new year and uh I hope you guys are having, I hope you had a good New Year's Eve and I hope you have a good new year. Right. And I hope you listen to this podcast and all the future ones. Not you, I'm not talking, I was talking to you, now I'm talking to the audience. I realized I switched gears. Yeah, you kind of pivoted mid-sentence. I pivoted mid-sentence.

Yeah, no, I pivoted mid-sentence and then I realized that's why I called it out. Okay. Yeah, dumb move on my part. That's the end of this one. So if you, I don't know, just fucking... What's our newest merch item? Ooh, did you see there's a GrownTube update?

Fucksticks, right? In the Slack? There's a fuckstick update that's interesting. Are they delayed? No. It's an interesting update. I'd say it's a positive one. Well, tell us what it is, dude. What is it? Hold on. I don't fucking look for it. It's just, it's different colors.

We can talk about it. Now we can end the show and talk about business for like three minutes until Jeff goes, I gotta go. And then. Okay. Face team. The grown sheep situation has evolved. Oh my God.

What are you doing? I'm just reading what it says. Right. But we don't have to. It's not for the episode. This is for us. It is now. Orange is common with 600. we don't have to do what

he's laying out this is his idea for the way he's laying it out with like these colors i like it i like the color he's saying we can't do white because white is too expensive they don't and it you can only get it oh one you know you know those like those like when you throw a bouncy ball and it like lights up the different colors? Like that magnet? Apparently my uncle invented it. I'm somehow related to the person that invented that in some way. What is happening?

What? I don't think they're my uncle, but they're definitely in the family tree somewhere. Well, this is... What? Second cousin? End this! End this. What is happening? Oh, we got a cliffhanger now. Hey, audience, would you... Oh, I see.

Pink, yellow, green, and orange. What is your favorite color? I love orange. I like orange too, but I have the association with orange. It always makes me feel like I'm picking it because of that. I like greens not bad.

There's no wrong color when it comes to a fuckstick. Thanks for listening. I think we should wait until we can get white they're expensive yeah and I like the orange one what do you have against orange? nothing it sounds like something it's weird to see a color come through the logo

I think that's what's weirding me out it's a witsy face that's colored in huh bye well we'll talk to you guys later waiting me out. Is it? It's a witsy f***ing face that's colored in. Huh. Bye. Well, we'll talk to you guys later and Gavin, next week,

I want to get into why you were in such a bad mood in this podcast. Talk to you later. Oh, that was it? What do you mean? Hey guys, minor league fan Jack here

with a look at next week's episode of F*** Face. Andrew talks old school achievement guides. Gavin destroys everything with an Apple remote. The boys talk about killing Betty White and doom Tom Hanks in the process. Chef celebrates Zim Day.

And once again, Andrew does not eat the pencil. All that and more on the next episode of F*** Face. you