F**kface - None of What You Said Matters // We Spill So Many Drinks [36]

Episode Date: February 3, 2021

Geoff, Gavin, and Andrew talk about terrible advice for Geoff's sock problem, Andrew's horde mode burger bet, the act of war of podcast trailer voting, and more. Sponsored by Hello Tushy (http://hellotushy.com/face) and Hello Fresh (http://hellofresh.com/face10 + code face10) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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They know because they showed up. I was here. What do you mean I didn't show up? You can't always say you're here on time when your shits broken and mostly you're not here. It doesn't work I don't understand what that means you being here early is irrelevant if by the time three o'clock comes around We can't press record and start because you're not there record Gavin. So I don't know what you want from me I'm recording. Have you hit record yet Gavin? Cuz I'm you want from me I'm recording have you hit record yet Gavin cuz I'm recording yeah can I just say every time it's not me I am so happy how do I adjust this this is how do I adjust my waveforms my gain right I got to twist it up or down down down down oh I twisted it all the way up. I don't... The word is gain as well. It's like a...

That's a great point. You know, that's a great point. I never considered it the literal thing for gain. Can I talk about the disaster? You're having a great time, Jeff. I have... I don't even... Okay.

So, I get my setup ready. Jeff posts in the Discord, I have something i want to talk about before we start i'm always here like 20 minutes early so i was like great i can talk to jeff i'll have somebody to talk to i put my thing in i set everything up nothing's working can't figure out why so i'm like i don't know maybe there's like a usb port issue so I go to like adjust the USB port on my computer I knock my computer over it knocks my monitor over it knocks over my cup of water that is like a leader everything goes flying I have a giant puddle on my floor I have to clean everything up I still don't know what the issue is I go

through all this shit we're going back and forth for like 10 minutes trying to figure out what was wrong the issue was I? Plugged my microphone into I think the second mic slot. I think that's what caused So that pussy you created a a comical Rube Goldberg machine in your room I everything felt my monitor is literally dripping right now It got covered in recording subs on the top of a house of cards. It is. Yeah, it was a fucking disaster. It might be.

It might have something to do with the fact that you've crammed everything that's important to you in your life into your bedroom. Here's the. OK, so just to pivot off of that, I've added a new thing. I made a mistake. I've always wanted to learn how to play piano. Good Christ. I bought an 88 key digital piano.

Those things are way bigger than you would anticipate. Those things are fucking huge. They're huge. It's five feet long. I'm imagining the width of 88 fingers. It is five feet long or it's like just barely under five feet i was not prepared for that uh it has been an issue um i don't have room for it so i i just i put it on my bed have you considered putting it maybe in another room but what i'm imagining is a bunch

of completely empty rooms yeah i can imagine the kitchen full of shit bedroom full of shit three other empty rooms is how i picture your living situation it i'm that's a good point i just i don't have a stand for it and i'd have to move a chair in there it's more work too i'd have to move a chair gavin you bet you now it's on your bed you have to move it every time you're no no no no no no no no i'm just sleeping with it it's just on on my bed. This is my life right now. Is it on the pillows? You're just sleeping next to it like I used to sleep next to a vacuum cleaner? Yeah.

It's fine. It's five feet long. Oh my god. I imagine you rolling over and it just goes... I really, yeah. It's a great possible alarm clock. I've left it on just to see if I roll onto it. It's ginormous. It's a great, it's a great possible alarm clock. I've left it on just to see if I roll onto it. That is ginormous. It's fucking huge and it's heavy.

I thought it would be half the size. Oh my God. I'm honestly quite excited for you that you've, you've seemed to have taken up what seems to be a normal hobby and not cooking in the closet. That's not a hobby. That's just fun. That's just pleasure for myself. This is a hobby. That that what hobby is like desk dogs is that not a hobby for you no i don't think desk curing noodles that's not a hobby okay hey whatever happened whatever

happened with the uh what was it kool-aid you were gonna put through the curing oh we'll do an intro first before we get into this oh Oh yeah, sorry. Welcome to episode 36. Is that right? Is that what it says? Yeah, I think that's right actually. Did I get it? Wow. I think I just got it right. You did it! Holy shit! I got it right! And welcome to episode

36 of F*** Face, a podcast about dipshits doing dipshit things. I am Jeff Ramsey. With me as always is British Gavin and With me, as always, is British Gavin and Canadian Andrew, as we call him. Hello. Yes. And San Diego Eric. Wow, he didn't say hi. Yeah, that's rude. It's fine. He's rude. Anyway, so, man, first off, do you guys have a lot to talk about today? Because I am proud to admit that I don't. Oh. I have a lot. I wrote some things down. Okay, I have a lot. talk about today because i am proud to admit that i don't oh i have a lot i wrote okay i would love to i got one thing uh well andrew you missed it i'm sorry and this is

a dickhead move i realized for the audience i had a story to tell that is not for care that is not for the podcast and i told eric and gavin before the podcast and i'll have to i'll have to sync up with you someday to tell you it was an insane thing that happened to me today, but it is not funny. It is very sad. And it's not – I don't want to – it's just a sad story that happened today. So why bring it up on the podcast? Yeah, now it sounds like it's really sad. Yeah.

Yeah, to be – like I said, it's a dickhead move. I was doing it to be a dick. Like, you know, sometimes you want to be a dick. Sometimes you want to be a dick. Something insane happened to me today. Absolutely insane, and I'm not going to talk about it. I feel like you're just trying to generate interest in this story you have no plan on telling. I'll never tell it. I don't know. Maybe I'll tell it.

Okay. I think that's for you to decide. The ending is good. Jeff was crying. I did cry. I cried for like 20 straight minutes. Like sad tears or like happy tears? Funny tears? Both. Nothing funny about it. Sad tears relieve tears, but yeah. But I do, just real

quick, and then I'll shut up. I won't talk for the rest of the podcast. No. Why? Why would you do that? I just have one thing. I don't want to be a time burglar. I don't want to monopolize, But I do want to thank on Twitter a guy or a lady or a they named Roadmaster74. Roadmaster74 tweeted to me.

Roadmaster74, I'm going to say that name a lot, Roadmaster74, because Roadmaster4, they are the first human being, although their picture is of a fox, so maybe they're not a human, maybe they're a fox. They're the first entity, the first human being, although their picture is of a fox, so maybe they're not a human.

Maybe they're a fox. They're the first entity, the sentient entity that gave me salient, useful, simple, helpful, hit myself on the forehead. Why didn't I think about that first advice and suggestion on how to fix my sock problem? I want to say, Roadmaster74, you're a fucking genius because Roadmaster74 said, hey, at Jeff L. Ramsey, about your sock situation,

why not put them in the shoes already? That way, when you go to put your shoes on, the right sock is in the right shoe and the left sock is in the left shoe. Just trying to help. Love fuckface. What does that mean? Keep it up. I mean, it means you pre-load your shoes with your socks so when i go the night before like when i go to bed i'll lay my socks

i just stick the left sock in the left shoe and the right sock in the right shoe then when i wake up yeah in the morning then i'll just fucking i grab my shoe i'll just put it on what do you mean just pre-load them onto your feet if anything in the morning like what do you mean you stop you stop you start to look at your sock and see if it's left or right to preload the shoes. Just put them straight on your feet the next morning. What on earth does that mean? God damn it, you're right. I still got to look at them the night before.

They'll still be raw. I don't. Suggestion asked. No, no, no. Here's why it may work. Here's why it may work. Here's why it may work. Here's why it may work.

Okay. It might work because, because, because, because. Oh my God. The specific problem I have is I pick up my left sock from a right foot but what if what if i just pick up a sock and i see what color it is and then i just go put it in the color sorry i pick up a sock and i see what letter it is and then i just go put that letter in the appropriate shoe and then it doesn't matter because i'm not applying it to my foot my foot my foot and my sock together is where it goes wrong but if i just pick up a sock and look at it ah it doesn't change a single thing jeff that doesn't all that does is move the problem to the night before think about

yes jeff think about when we were actually trying to solve this the issue that you talked about was that putting socks on is a mindless activity and you're incapable of putting any thought into this process. All you've done is put thought into putting socks in the shoes. If you really want to sort the situation out, if you actually need a solution, put all your left socks in one drawer and all your right socks in the other, and put them on your feet from those drawers every morning. Don't be farting around, bending over, putting socks in your shoes the night before. It's mental.

Absolutely mental what you're saying. I think it's a feel thing. That's also good advice. I think that's the only true way to fix it. Gavin, I don't know where you were the last 2,000 times we've talked about this, but that is decent advice. Well, I wasn't giving serious answers last time. I just got to separate the drawers.

It's not a real problem, Jeff. It is a real problem for me, and it's existed for fucking years. I wouldn't be talking about it every day of my fucking life if it wasn't a problem. Obviously, it's a problem. And thank you for the solution. I understand. I understand what you're saying about whatever this fucking kid's name was. Again, now I forgot it.

Roadmaster 74. I get it. I'm just preloading the problem to provide a false sense of security 24 hours later or in the morning. I can wrap my head around that. But I also think that I'm mad at you, Gavin. I'm mad at you for saying it's not a problem when it's very clearly, very lucidly a problem. But also I'm kind of happy with you because you gave me a decent idea with the drawers. Maybe I'll try that.

Okay, thanks. Andrew, what did you want to talk about? Are you alright, Andrew? Yeah, I'm just, it's like none of what you said matters. Like, you don't... It's even more insulting than what I said. No, it's like, for solving the issue't it's even more insulting than what i said no it's like for solving the issue it's a new thing that's less you we can come up with a million is that no you should stop talking about it no no no i'm not saying you should stop talking about it i'm

saying all of your solutions that you're saying like that's a great idea doesn't solve the issue because it's a you thing you're gonna have to fucking clean those socks they're gonna come out of the drawer and then it's just gonna be about how all your fucking right socks end up in the left drawer somehow it's a you thing yeah you're just changing where the problem is you're just moving the ball you're not actually solving anything how do i fix me i i think it's a feel thing i've talked about that i think you need to have something on the sock that's like a like a feel you feel it and you're like that's a left sock why don't you wake up backwards you know what that's the best idea of all i've now i've now talked about it too much i don't want to talk about it anymore okay i've just all worked up about it you had a useless suggestion

there jeff in the comments i saw a a useless comment where I was asking for like other things, like how Andrew didn't know that the Mac in mac and cheese was macaroni. And like, what other obvious things does he not know? Someone in the comments, I can't remember what the name was, glanced at it and laughed at it, said, it took me ages to realize that can was short for canister. And I thought, I don't think that's true. I looked it up and I got what I just Googled is can short for canister and i thought i don't think that's true i looked it up and i got what

i just googled is can short for canister and you know how google just like finds your answer and makes it big above all the results it's quite an aggressive answer can which date which dates back to old english and canister which didn't show up until at least the 16th century are two separate words can is not and never has been a short form of canister really someone really like angrily typing about somebody's sick sick of hearing that uh fucking misnomer and don't ask again stop it it's not short for archive it's the onion uh should we get into at any point the fucking pod the fucking discord podcast that happened or slack podcast that happened earlier this week oh yeah no for sure we're gonna get two separate incidents that i i was so confused to back into, and then it lasted.

It got quite lengthy and aggressive. I think our biggest issue is that we record on the wrong day. Andrew seems to cause everything to happen on, like, a Monday or a Tuesday, and then we have to wait two days. I think maybe an even bigger issue is just that this fucking podcast is now happening 24 hours a day in our lives. It's just, like, the only way we know how to communicate with each other. You know, my biggest issue is the two knives in my back that Gavin shoved there.

You think Gavin shoved two knives in your back? He backstabbed me twice. Right after, Gavin and I had a conversation. I was like, man, it seems like you and I always just end up in an alliance. Like you and I are together. It's strange. Like even when it's not expected, we joined forces. Next week, he stabs me in the back.

Three days later, he stabs me in the back again. Wait, what was the second knife? The second knife was the vote. How you describe the vote. That was an absurd take on the vote. Look, I I'm sorry, but the judgment was ruled and it was ruled that it was fair and not insulting to you and if anything made you sound funny and cool so between recordings um andrew was complaining about this backstabbing and we ended up having another judgment jeff was the

impartial judge this will happen between this recording on the last one andrew do you want to um run us through what should we go in order in order? Let's go through the burgers first. Because the burgers are brief. It's a brief thing. Sorry, I want to let this all go, but you're asking should we do this in order, and you might as well just do it in whatever way you want because I don't think the three of us understand

how any of it happened or why. It was just a thing that you started and did. Okay, this is, Oh no, no, no, no,

no, no. Before Andrew goes any further. Can I ask a question then? I assumed that I was the only one lost in this whole thing and that Eric and Andrew and Gavin were all on the same page and I was playing catch up. Is that not the case? Are you guys confused too?

Yeah, absolutely. No idea what's going on. I don't understand what, I don't know. I have no idea. Thank you so much don't understand what i don't know i have no idea that thank you so much andrew please i can explain this and this is i know funny the audio is gonna be on my side on this one the previous episode we talked about how i initiated the bet and then i

had my sparring session i ate my i ate a burger and i felt full that night, so I called it off. We had that talk. And in that conversation, I said, at least we have a framework done, and you agreed with me, Jeff, that when I do this again, I'm going to need to feel super confident about it, and I won't have to ask anybody, at least, because we've already agreed to the terms. I can just start. That's what happened. On Friday, I felt very confident, so I said to Eric, I need to let you know, because I figured if I failed, I would just start. That's what happened. On Friday, I felt very confident, so I said to Eric, I need to let you know, because I figured if I failed,

I would reveal on the show that I did it, and I failed. And if it actually started to go well, I'd reveal after the first set, because I changed my strategy. So that's all that happened. We agreed that I could just start this thing whenever I wanted to.

That is not a crazy thing that I came out of left field with. Do we remember this? No. Yes. You don't remember that? Andrew, I do remember. It was, I think, the last time we recorded, honestly.

It was. It's in the podcast. I remember you saying that when you were feeling confident. I guess I didn't realize you were just going to go without saying anything. I guess I did. To back up Gavin a bit there there i guess i didn't either but based on your retelling and now my recollection i think i just might have missed that but i think that you i think you were clear with it i just didn't pick up on it same absolutely and that's

fine that's why that's that's not that's not the betrayal part i understand that what happened was so my new strategy this time around was i'm gonna order the burgers and waves because i feel like if i can beat it in like wave after wave like a boss you're doing a horde mode yeah i'm doing a horde mode i think if i mentally i'm like i'm cleared half the waves i only got half to go i can go the extra mile but this is where things are all between like left for dead it's like oh here come, and all the burgers show up again. Every fifth burger's a boss burger. It's a double.

Yeah, exactly. So I ordered 10 burgers, but this is the problem. I was so excited. I was so pumped up about it on Friday. I ordered the wrong burger. Every time we've done this, I've ordered the basic McDonald's hamburger and then the double hamburger. I accidentally ordered 10 McDoubles,

which means they all have cheese on them. That's a lot of cheese to go the rest of the way with. So I paused the timer and I wanted Gavin's ruling. I wasn't even trying to argue with you. I felt that since I am doing a harder burger and I've already committed to this, I've ordered

10 of them. If I go the rest harder burger, and I've already committed to this, I've ordered 10 of them, if I go the rest of the way and finish all these McDoubles with cheese on them, then I win the bet, even though it's not the regulation burger we agreed upon. But if I lose, it doesn't count because I was doing a harder burger. I was looking for a ruling for that. Gavin said, what's going on?

I explained the situation. Never replied. Never made any comment about it. Still hasn't given a a rule i think i was in the middle of a recording i just got an alert saying we have a potential burger controversy clock is paused 25 minutes in we need a judgment well here is my fear just before and i'll let you just one just one quick addition my fear was that i would eat all the doubles, right? Or I eat 10 of them. And then you'd say doesn't count because those aren't the burgers we agreed upon.

So I just wanted clarity was the main thing I was looking for. Go ahead, Jack. OK, I just wanted to say real fast and I apologize for this. I just wanted to ask if Eric and Gavin have been listening to the last like two minutes and everything Andrew said kind of made sense and you're aligned with it because I had an unfortunate in the middle of his story. I knocked my diet Dr. Pepper over on my keyboard and I had to run and get a towel and clean up. So I may have missed some of it. But if you guys were on board, then I'll just back you.

I'll just be on board with that episode. you i'll just be on board with that episode i the only part that i would refute of andrew's telling of that so far is that he was looking for a ruling from gavin because then when i tagged gavin i got a message from andrew that said that he considered that a betrayal it was a definite betrayal how many betrayals are? Is that a third knife in your back then? That is a, yeah, but Eric was doing the right thing there. So did you win the bet? No, I never got a ruling, so I stopped eating the burgers. Just one quick detailed ad.

Well, I mean, give us some notice. I'm busy. I can't even get a chance to really read everything until like four hours after all this conversation. You've had over a fucking week to make a ruling. First of all, you haven't weighed in just generally on how you felt about it. Wait, how does it still apply now, though? I thought I'd missed the window.

I'm just curious what your answer... No, there's no window. I just like an answer. The pause is still on. Wait, so are you trying to get me to rule over it's the wrong burger because you got cheese in him? No, okay. Once again, I feel like my question is very simple.

I ordered the wrong burger it's a tougher burger if i pursued with the tougher burger would you count that as a win and if i failed would you count that as a loss but i didn't is that specify the original burger andrew but we've always come from you no we've always used the base hamburger that's the regulation burger but why were you doing doubles last time? You did 25 doubles. When I did the doubles, I did the double hamburger. I accidentally ordered the McDouble.

There's a difference between the double hamburger and the McDouble. Right, but the difference between 50 hamburgers and 25 double hamburgers is a bigger difference than 25 double hamburgers and 25 McDoubles. The structure is different, is just what I was saying. I was just looking for clarity. What it sounded like to me was like, you have erroneously ordered these other burgers, which to me is still the same amount of burgers.

And you've also said, I'm willing to go through with it. If I win, I still win. But if I lose, I don't lose. I viewed it as like when you beat the game on hard and you get the achievements for normal and easy. But if you don't beat the game,

you lose. Like it's still double or nothing, but you decided it wouldn't be nothing. Well, because I'm going with a tougher burger. So I was just curious. But that was all, but you're only going

with a tougher burger because of your inability to follow through with the tougher burger. So I was just curious. But that was all, but you're only going with a tougher burger because of your inability to follow through with the bet properly. I accidentally ordered the wrong burgers. So I was just curious. But you also already said you were ordering in waves. So surely the rest of the burgers would be normal

and you could just do that. I know. Oh, yeah. Were you trying to, were you, am I understanding this? Were you trying to take 50 burgers and turn them into 25 McDoubles?

Or would it be 50 McDoubles? No, it would be 25... 25 Doubles. I think, Jeff, he's iterating off the second bet, which was 25... 25 Double Patty Burgers. Oh, so we're at 25... Okay.

What I was saying, Jeff, is what I was scared about is because, like, technically it's the wrong burger. It's not the regulation burger. So I didn't want to eat 10 of those and then find out that those didn't actually count. But from my point of view, Andrew, I'm there. I'm doing, you know, I'm doing some work. And suddenly my phone's going off. The clock has stopped. The clock has stopped.

We need a ruling now. No, no. It's totally fine. Honestly, as Eric said, I was feeling pretty full after the first three. So I'm like, I don't mind that Gavin's taking time. The problem is when it's burgers, if you extend over multiple days, Gavin,

that was the issue, that there was no ruling over days. I didn't really fully understand what I was ruling over, honestly. And then you refused to give me a nice summary and we ended up just bickering for about three days. I gave you multiple summaries. Andrew said that he

wanted the clock stopped because quote, this is like when a fighter gets kicked in the balls in the UFC, but I kicked myself in the balls and I'm taking all the time I can. So he also said, quote, I view those pings as a personal betrayal. So if somebody gets hit in the balls in the UFC, do they just hide in a room and nobody can look at them or check on them or what's going on?

No, no, this is no. Once again, like I'm not saying I'm saying I was trying to take advantage of that clock. I was more joking when I said it was a betrayal. I figured Gavin would be busy and you pinging him that definitely made him be aware that something was happening. I was OK with it to him taking hours because I viewed that as digestion time that I could hide behind. But he just never answered. So it was unfortunate. But he just never answered.

So it was unfortunate. Also, before, just a quick addition to that, before I even started, the first thing I did was filled the cup that I knocked over today. I filled it with water, put it on my desk, knocked it over immediately, fell all over my keyboard, all over the floor. I have spilt that one liter cup of water

all over my desk while it's full three times in the past week. It's happened three times in the past week three times okay so that's we're through the burger bag yes so you're so you view you view gavin having stabbed you in the back by refusing to to render a judgment he never gave a ruling yeah i felt that it was uh because i wasted you didn't need to stop the clock after 25 minutes. If you've only ordered some, just forget it. Call it a wash. Mulligan.

Go again another time. Burgers cost money, Gavin. I spent money on those burgers. I'd like a ruling on the burgers. I'd like to not have to pay for additional burgers. I do think you could make a bit of an effort to be available, Gavin. Just over multiple days. I'm not asking for an immediate rule.

The conversation was so long. By the time I was able to sit down and read it, I wasn't fully in understanding of what was going on. So I did ask you, Andrew, for a brief summary. And all you did was argue with me again more. I explained it. Where's the summary here? Point to your summary that

i was meant to be ruling on we've had a lot of talk i felt like i was very clear in explaining i ordered the wrong burgers and all that if i didn't that's on me and i apologize that's my okay i found the bit i found the bit where i asked for a summary i said i'll need a brief summary of the events jeff said why did this happen? Andrew just says, what do you mean? What prompted the bet lift off? I did. It ends up just being a really long conversation. I said I saw no sign off or green light. You said didn't need one.

Yeah, because we had on the podcast, we talked about I didn't need that. We talked about this. Yeah, that's what you're referring to. And then you said Gavin sabotaged the bet. Yeah. I asked for his ruling and he refused to give it still hasn't and at this point you still haven't told me the summary of what i'm ruling over i am so confused i've said it three times on this podcast alone well i know now what you're asking for i was talking the reason

i didn't rule could you could you just give a ruling now because i open with a ruling i i'm almost certain i did if i didn't that's my fault i don't know do you just give a ruling now because i open with a ruling i i'm almost certain i did if i didn't that's my fault i don't know do you actually want a ruling now i'd love one just so i know it's fine okay there that's all i was looking for that's all i needed that's all i wanted we're good burgers you do understand what could have been uh a 30 second typing effort has extended into uh hours of slack arguing and a giant chunk of this podcast arguing about what you want. That's not my fault. I would say a multi-day argument. Yeah.

It was. Yeah, at this point. It was. Mildly infuriating. Yes. Yes. I bought the burgers. How do you think I feel?

So what happened with the bet? It just paused because like I lost the momentum. Are we going to declare this a mulligan not a failure? I just don't understand why you want a ruling if you stopped completely and have no intention of eating like a week old burger. Well, I was just curious now

I'd like a ruling now because you never gave one. So I was just curious what it was. It was mainly out of curiosity. It's not related to the bet. I was just curious what you'd actually say. Here's my thinking. As an overall. It was mainly out of curiosity. It's not related to the bet. I was just curious what you'd actually say. Here's my thinking. As an overall, to prevent any future need of ruling, 50 patties have to make it down your gullet with bread.

25 breads. With 25 breads. Okay. That's it. Thank you. 25 bread combos. Top and bottom. That was the...

Because once again, like just... And this is the last closing point on the burgers because I thought this would be a three-minute conversation. The whole point of the green light ahead of time was that, and we agreed, I need to feel the momentum and excitement. Being stalled for like eight hours, I just didn't have an Emmy at that point.

The excitement died. I lost the whale gavit. But it's all you. It all came from you. You were like free solo trying to go up on the wrong day. Yeah, exactly, Jeff. Like, I can't imagine a bunch of people turning up to the annual hot dog eating contest and then just stopping because they're wheat buns instead of white. I also can't imagine them saying, we've got a discrepancy.

Can we get a ruling? And the judge not answering. Yeah, and the judge is in a different country doing something else. You know what the most hurtful part of that was? I saw you in a different Slack channel make a comment in the evening. I was like, you motherfucker.

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So what about the other knife? We had to vote. Who should set this? Should I set this up? Whose story is this? I think you're the one who feels slighted, and you're the one with the issue. So I think it's fair that you should be able to express that.

OK, well, we had. So Eric asked if he said there's another podcast. They want to put a trailer on the RSS feed for this podcast. Is that a big deal or do we care? Yes or no. Are we OK with it? I don't think any of us care. I think we're all fine with it.

Gavin or Jeff immediately said yes. Then Gavin said he voted no because he wanted to put me in a swing vote position, which I viewed as an act of war. That's how I feel. You said I wish I had the exact wording, but your wording was very much like I'm going to say no just to be interesting. And I'm going to put all the pressure of this choice on Andrew. I've watched 40 seasons of fucking Survivor.

You do not try to pressure me in a vote scenario. It doesn't happen. You don't fuck with me in a vote. But really, all I'm doing is giving you the entire vote. No, you're not. That's another thing I'm going to dispute. We went over that. I wish we didn't have a million fucking messages.

I'm going to try to scroll to find our conversation. So I thought about this for quite a bit. Oh, I found it. I said, I'm going to say no, just so that Andrew has to be the one who decides the outcome. Yeah, I viewed that as an act of war. I viewed that as you're trying to put me in an odd spot. I can't find it. And I took that personally. I i did i took it personally i can't find the conversation but i essentially said that i'm betting gavin is assuming i'm gonna say yes

so to get back at gavin to fuck with gavin i think i'm gonna say no because in a scenario in which there's a two no vote on a three vote it doesn't really matter who the swing is two votes equally mean the same yeah you guys are fucking annoying that's for sure so we went through this whole thing and i felt that i was pretty clear constantly in my messaging of this that i am voting no purely because to make gavin uncomfortable because i don't i don't i live in a different country the person whose podcast it is i don't work, because I don't I don't I live in a different country. The person whose podcast it is, I don't work with them. I don't really interact with them. I have no issue with them.

I think they're great. Don't really talk to them. Gavin, you might be at a Christmas party with this person. There's going to be some level of social interaction. And I figured they'd be on another podcast with you to promote it. And so the timing of it could have been really funny where it's awkward. If we're the only show that doesn't promote this other show i thought that could be really funny that person is already i'm pretty sure convinced that gavin and and i hate him so i don't think this is

helping well my life that was the entire thing it had nothing to do with them it had everything to do with making it as uncomfortable for gavin as possible because i felt like he was trying to put me in a corner and i flipped it on him i can read what you wrote this is an interesting position to be in i immediately want to say no because i imagine gavin is anticipating me as a yes vote if we are the only show that doesn't it probably gets noticed by him and he definitely wouldn't want to put the blame on me if he asked eric why he would have to say gavin and andrew voted no which would make me feel sort of bad but it would be much more awkward for you i imagine i would feel bad but once again it's much more painful for you it's all about making it as miserable for you so then oh man you went on a

pot you're on a podcast they're promoting the podcast with you and you brought this up can we go further that that's not where the votes ended though okay it was yeah it was additional voting between another great point jeff the reason we're now at a tie i think it's uh what no we're not we're at two one right now no we're we're three three now we're we were at tie i think it's a what no we're not we're at 2-1 right now no we're we're at 3-3 now we were at 2-1 at that moment we're at 2-1 so then i said i i got an uh one of the editors i asked their opinion they voted and then i used my second account to rebalance the vote so we're at a tie yeah they voted yes and so i was like, just to be funny, I forgot I have two accounts. I technically have two votes. I'll just vote no again.

So we're back at a tie. But the whole reason why we're at a tie right now and it's not a no vote is because I asked if I could change my vote. And I also asked somebody else if they wanted to vote. So if anything, I'm the reason why we're tied and that it's not a no. This was not. It's an important detail to remember later. Who are the who are the three yes votes? Me,

Eric, and who? The editor. The editor. Wait, did Eric even vote? Eric didn't vote. I thought he voted yes. I thought Eric and I were Oh. Not on the Slack. I don't know if he voted somewhere else. Didn't vote in the Slack conversation. I originally thought Eric did vote, but looking back on it, he was

Yeah, I also thought he voted. He was just yelling at us to vote. There's three of you. It should just be an easy vote. Unfortunately, it was. Look, you know the show we started here, Eric, and you expect to do normal business in our Slack channel? Yeah.

You know, honestly, yes, I did. And that's my mistake, apparently. So. Okay. So we're tied. We're tied 3-3. And then honestly, and then I think everybody, with the exception of maybe Eric, who still had to deal with it, I think all of us forgot that that happened. Right?

Like it left. It was just like a week later. In my head, I was like, ah, that was funny. I mean, obviously we're going to put it in. Yeah, same. But I don't think we ever doubled back and readdressed or anything. We just left it and we just left that business unfinished. And then Eric really wanted to talk about it on the other podcast that we were on.

That's true. I wanted to talk about it because I knew I that we were on that's true i wanted to talk about it because i knew i could get it resolved that's it all i wanted was resolution and i knew that that would be a point of resolution in that moment and i was fine with it obviously again i was wrong right but uh i feel like at that point i did have to explain the situation to john which i knew we would have to do. At the moment we started having the discussion, I thought he'll find this funny probably eventually. So I explained it all to him.

And Andrew, absolutely livid about it. Okay, so you explained it. One, I think the outcome of the story is really important because that whole conversation ends with him saying with John saying I didn't realize Andrew hated me and not even in a joking way and just like a like a it was a point of like realization I don't hate John at all so I feel like at that point it's a failing on your I voted no because of Gavin because I also don't hate John and I voted no I did it because of the face Eric I don't also don't hate John and I voted no. I did it because of the f*** face, Eric.

I don't know, man. If I were John, I might feel like you both f***ing hate me right now because you both voted no. Maybe you don't hate me, but I would think maybe I'm so inconsequential that a lame throwaway joke is funnier to make than to help me in my career.

That's maybe what I would think. This is way better promotion, though. Yeah. What's the name of the fucking podcast, Gavin? This whole conversation for some reason has been not naming that podcast or the Rooster Teeth podcast and I can't figure out why.

I don't know why. I just started following along with that. I almost felt bad saying John because I realized no one else had. I don't know why. Why are we omitting all the names? I don't know why I just started following along with that. I almost felt bad saying John because I realized no one else had. I don't know why. Why are we omitting all the names? I don't know either. I have no idea. It's just how it came out.

Poor fucking John. Poor real canon. Poor them for just having to deal with us. Honestly, what I wanted, this is my whole plan with the no vote. And once again, I told you this, Gavin. You knew this. It wasn't presented in your version of how that vote happened. I wanted it to be a no vote. And once again, I told you this, Gavin, you knew this, wasn't presented in your version of how that vote happened. I wanted it to be a no vote.

I didn't want the podcast trailer on our feed because I was going to tell John that and I figured John would be on the Rooster Teeth podcast and I would talk to him and say like, it'd be funny if you kind of

acted annoyed about Gavin because I assumed the trailer would have been out before you did that podcast. And so there'd be a reason for him to naturally realize we're the only show that didn't have the trailer on it and then I could bring it up on the show as like it was a planned bit and it would be way better advertising for the show than it was if we just had a trailer it would be content that was my thing but the way the story was presented was just that I hate John. That isn't at all the case. I don't think I presented it that way.

I explained the situation. And the reason that it happened was because it's a f*** face. So at this point, at this point in the situation, by the way, Andrew, I think that that's some brilliant marketing on your part. Works better if you let anybody else on Earth know about it. Well, I would tell about it on the show. Maybe. No. Why would I need to let you know about it. Well, I would tell like, like maybe, no, why would I,

why would I need to let you know about that? We all do. We all deal in this show together. We all promote this show together. You don't know what I or Gavin or could be on and how it could come up naturally. And then sandbag your, your joke.

But I don't like what you're saying. Like this was all behind the scenes stuff. Only John and I would know. And I let Eric know. And then I realized, well, the dates are just not going to. Only John and I would know, and I let Eric know. And then I realized, well, the dates are just not going to line up, so it doesn't matter. So it didn't work. Okay. So it was an impossibility.

Which part of my retelling did you have the issue with? What part did you take to the judge? I just, I felt like you didn't at all articulate my motive. The motive you gave was just like, I was against it because I thought it was funny to be against it. But you did think it was funny to be against it. Yeah, but specifically funny because it would make you feel bad and it was bad for you. So your anger is that it was an oversimplification of the complex comedy you were trying to make. Because I made it seem like you didn't like John when in fact you don't like me.

No, I think you're great, but I enjoy making you uncomfortable. Yeah. For the show specifically. So then what happened? So that was my issue. The issue was I did not feel my motive was presented accurately. Had nothing to do with John. Had everything to do with you.

So not necessarily a lie. It was just more of a mission. Yes. Your version of the story was very much like andrew kind of forced a no vote where it was like no i i mean if i did it was because of gavin putting me in that position he did force a no vote i did but because you put me in that position because you're trying to put me in a corner you keep taking the outcome and adding something behind it that doesn't change the outcome.

He also acknowledged that he did that in the retelling. He said, I voted no to force Andrew to have to be the swing vote because I thought it would make him uncomfortable. Like he's acknowledging that his part in it and that he also said no. I just felt that the telling of the story was mainly slanted on me being the no guy without my motive. That's what I felt was a betrayal. And I was a little sensitive after the burger ruling. That also probably played a factor. I was on edge with that with the burger.

The lack of. This was a one-two. I would argue, Andrew, that if the two of you together, let's leave fake accounts and editors and stuff out. We'll get to the original three votes, right? The two of you together comprise 100% of the no vote, right? Yes. Gavin went first, you went second. Now, I would argue that because you went second and you had the knowledge of knowing that

your vote is the swing vote, I would argue that at best, Gavin had a 49% of that no vote. That's absurd. You had 51%. That's a ridiculous statement to make because you need both votes for a no. It doesn't matter who's first. That's what I was arguing. Yeah, but you can already see mine.

Yeah, but one has already happened and you've seen it. You have knowledge. That doesn't matter. You have prior knowledge. That is such bullshit. No, that doesn't matter at all. If it went the other way

and it was I was a yes and you were a no and then Gavin was the swing vote and he voted no, I would say he was 51% responsible. Okay, but do you agree if somebody declares an act of war on you, you need to respond? I totally understand that. I had to respond. Yeah. Gavin put me in this position to do it and then told a story in which I was the sole

bad guy when really he's the one that initiated it. I'd said that. So then you took it to the world's most impartial judge, and I looked at all the data, and I'm sorry. Right here. Yeah, you read the ruling. Okay, so it was a whole thing. We obviously once again had the argument about

whether the judge was impartial. I guess we eventually said that Jeff, in fact, was impartial. Jeff writes, impartially. If I think anyone threw you under the bus, Andrew, it was Eric. As Gavin made a tiny effort to bring it up, it got passed by and Eric jumped in to make sure it was addressed. And the way he said it implied controversy, which Gavin then had to play to. That being said, I didn't really feel like any of it was

character shaming or assassinating if and if anything you came across sounding funnier and comedically maniacal i think gavin kind of talked you up my judgment is that no offense was committed or intended eric replies with a picture of a gavel yeah i respect the i respect that you feel that way i disagree but i'm not i'm not you know that's how it goes why thank you thank you for showing me the respect i respect you as well that's you know i think the issue the issue i had more with it was that the only person that seemed to clearly articulate what my intent was was barbara who had the least amount of context for any of the stuff that happened. She had no clue. John was like, I guess he hates me.

And she's like, I don't think he hates you. I think it's how much he hates Gavin or the show. It's like, yeah, it has nothing to do with John or the podcast. It's everything to do with Gavin, making Gavin uncomfortable. And he forced the situation by putting me in a pressure swing position. And thus ends the second knife. Thus ends the second knife. I'm going to be careful I don't sort of stub my toe later today and find out that I've stabbed you a third time in the back

or looked at you funny. The problem with comedy is that it's edgy, and very often when you throw a comedic bomb out there, people get shrapnel. John was going to get hit with some shrapnel. John was gonna get hit with some shrapnel one way or the other in this. And it sucks for him, but if you're gonna be a fearless comedian, that's the price people pay.

But you should check out his wonderful new podcast, Real Canon. There may or may not be a trailer in the feed of this podcast. Can I put it up? Fucking who knows, dude. I don't know! That's all! This whole thing has just been me trying to get a resolution. dude. I don't know. That's all. You still don't know when you're going to do it. This whole thing has just been me

trying to get a resolution. I just want to know if I can put it up. Let's. Yeah, I have no issue with it. Let's vote. All right, Andrew. We'll vote again.

We'll do a new vote the three of us. Andrew, you go first. Yeah, I'm totally fine with it. I don't care. Okay. Gavin? Absolutely.

Why? I'm going to be a no. Two to one. You guys win win i disagree with your decision but that's democracy for you that's how it works uh no no love uh no love for john here from me but good on you guys happy i'm thrilled thanks guys we good alright great we did good work here it only took I think a week was that a week ago yeah I think it was a week

I don't know how we talk about nothing for so long we fight I was thinking about this earlier if I had to describe this podcast

this 36 episode podcast I would just say it's 36 episodes of one argument and we it goes in different tangents but it's still essentially just an argument and we it goes in different tangents but it's still essentially just an argument i was listening to one of these the other day i was

i guess i never used the podcast app i wanted to hear one of the ads just to see what we were getting and then it just like played an old podcast andrew you're a lot more quiet on the early ones you were sort of very sort of like gentle soul compared to uh the the animal that you've become but i was listening to a really funny bit about how Jeff, you were talking about infamous second son or whatever, and how you captured a bunch of video without the red component cable. And I was like, Oh,

I remember him telling the story, but I never went and looked at the videos and I couldn't tell whether you were joking or not about uploading those. And you weren't, they're up there. Yeah. And I, cause in my head I was like, oh, I just like the red channel is missing. Maybe that's, maybe it just looked cool. Like a cool stylistic choice.

It looks absurd. Like not only is there a bunch of color missing, but there's like clearly like vertical scan timing that's gone all wrong. There's like weird glitches and lines flipping about all over the place. And you're just like, you want to walk over here. Here's the deal, dude. Here's the deal.

First off, I played, I almost beat the game like that. I played like, I was probably 15 hours in before Michael noticed that you showed me. But I, it's like so infamous. Second Son, if you're not familiar with, it was a PS4 game, I believe. Or PS3, PS4? I don't know. Who cares? It's Second Son, if you're not familiar with it, it was a PS4 game, I believe.

Or PS3, PS4? I don't know. Who cares? It was probably PS3 if you're using component. It was probably PS3, yeah. And it's like an open world game about a dude in like a post-apocalyptic cityscape kind of thing with like superpowers and shit.

So I assumed that it was a stylistic choice because it's like a near future dark world kind of thing I just I just embrace what was this style Style ever I wouldn't have played for more than about seven seconds before I was like oh something's wrong We really just wanted to feel like every scene was garbage Just like it was filmed with a smeared lens and there was only green like it Well, you had a magnet on top of your TV or something. Here's the deal.

If you follow those guides, you'll get those trophies. You must have mentioned it earlier, too, because all the comments are like, oh boy, Jeff forgot to plug in the red cable. But those comments are from like seven years ago. Attention to detail has... Yeah, it's not about my strong suit have you been able to play hitman 3 gavin um i played one for a video i was i'm gonna play the first level again though because you know i was in a on camera goofy mode instead of i want to listen and hear the story mode also i downloaded it um right before we started this. I wanted to try and play before we started recording this very episode.

Yep. And I started the, you know how you can download like 40% of the game and then play? Yes. So I did that. The game wasn't fully downloaded, but none of the dialogue was there. It was just music. Oh. So I think they let you play the first level, but maybe the sound and the audio recordings

are all in the last 90%. I find that like, I would say like nine times out of 10, when you can play a game before it's fully downloaded, the experience isn't worth it. Definitely hit or miss. Sometimes it's just, oh, you can go on the menu now.

Yes. Or like Plants vs. Zombies, you can just walk around a mini-map it's like cool yeah that was probably the most pointless feature yeah it didn't work at all I'm frustrated with hitman

3 because I love hitman it's one of my favorite video game series ever I play them so much I love those games the third one just came out and when you're loading into the third one you get

prompted with the screen saying do you want to carry over all your progress? From hitman 2 and I believe hitman 1 Definitely hitman 2 well hitman 2 had hitman 1 levels as a part of it So if you played hitman 1 on hitman 2 you can take that with you Okay, I did do that. I played so much hitman 2. I love those games and So I was like yeah, I'll carry my progress over perfect all my unlocks all my stats I love that stuff let's do it the website's down the transfer stuff yeah doesn't work haven't

been able to play it and if you play hitman 3 if you start it and then transfer it after you lose everything you earned in the time between well I just can't play hitman 3 it's up now I already transferred my stuff earlier no it doesn't work for me. I tried right now. No, I just tried. I tried it while we're talking. It still doesn't outload. It's still broken. Maybe it doesn't like Canadians.

Maybe. Maybe. It's a great game. Is it? Good. Well, I mean, just the franchise in general. It's awesome. Okay.

Yeah. I don't think I've ever played that game. I mean, other than doing two videos with you, Gavin. They're so good. Puddle Pile. I like that cyberpunk. You still playing it? Fuck yeah, dude. Every day. I play for like an hour every day. They're so good. Potopile? I like that Cyberpunk. You still playing it? Fuck yeah, dude. Every day. I play for like an hour every day.

Just do side missions. I just, honestly, I just, I just, it's gonna sound dark, but there's something that just works so well about it. I just walk around with a shotgun and dismember people. So are you done with Cyberpunk? Have you beaten it?

Who, me? And who? Yeah. No, I haven't beaten it yet. I know you're done. Yeah. Is it taking a backseat to Hitman now? Yeah.

I'll come back to it. I don't know how that goes. Maybe a couple of patches later, I'll come back to it. I don't know how that goes. Poor, uh, poor Gems of War. It's just, uh,

it's collecting dust right now while I play Cyberpunk. Have you played through, uh... Also, Fallout 3 for you. Fuck off. I'll get back to cyberpunk have you played also fallout 3 for you fuck off i'll get back have you played through the parade mission yet jeff in the campaign yeah yeah you gotten that far uh-huh did you know i don't know are we in like a point where we can talk well i don't know about spoiler talk i don't think this will even i'll just be super vague i haven't done that i'll be okay i'll be super vague it's one it's one of the coolest missions in a video game i've done in a while after that mission there's a thing that can happen

that's optional that you can miss did you miss it jeff are you aware that there's an optional thing for you to do there i guess i don't know what you're talking about is this what caused you to get the shit ending andrew no it isn't but is a... Is it listed as an optional objective? No, I don't think so. This is something I had no awareness of. It is a, I would say personally, I think it's a big kind of story thing that can happen. And I had no idea that it was a choice

and that I had missed the choice. It was shocking to learn hours later. I don't want to spoil it for Gavin, but there's an optional thing that I guess I'm assuming you're past that and you didn't do. I guess so. I'm at like meet Hanako at Embers. It just tells me that all the time.

Okay. I think that might be after what I'm talking about. It is. It's like the last mission before you beat the game. Okay. Then yeah. Do you care, Gavin, if I mention this? Well, I could take my headphones off. When shall I turn it off? Okay. Put it in the discord when i can watch again sure it'll be really brief the what's the your buddy that you do the parade thing with that guy the the yeah yeah yeah yeah something like that yeah he dies in that sequence if you don't save him did

you know that did you realize you had to save i had no idea i didn't know that was a thing i didn't know i thought he was supposed to die no you can save him you can go get him you have to go pull him out are you like walk over yeah you can walk over and like pull him out and save him and you're good i didn't realize i had to do that and i didn't know he died it took me hours and someone having to tell me. I knew he died because I think they mentioned like he didn't make it or something but I had no idea

it was even possible to save him. Yeah, you could have just walked over and pulled him up. He was like stuck under some rubble. Did he give you missions and shit after that? I don't think so.

I think it's just more like a narrative thing like he'll talk to you in a way but it's not like a substantial from my understanding it wasn't a substantial thing to lose that character after that point okay i i said i told you that it was good yeah all right i'm back all right sorry about that yeah he was just telling me

he was just telling me a spoiler about uh cyberpunk okay about this specific character i can tell you his name if you want and then whether what happened i gotta tell you this i can tell you the spoiler if you want. What else did you say? Say some other shit? No, we just talked about the spoiler. Just Cyberpunk. What would you think we talked about? Me?

Why would we talk about you? Wait, how many knives are in my back? Hold on. Why would you think we would be talking about... Let me look in my back. Hey, hold on a second. While you're looking at your back, why don't you leave the chat?

I'm going to tell Andrew another spoiler real fast. I don't like this thing we started. I'll slack you as soon as I know. It's another spoiler related to the spoiler he told me. It's actually, this is a really funny coincidence that this whole bit is happening right now. Because unlike Gavin, who's been stabbing knives in my back all the time, I'm a really good friend.

And Jeff, you discussed recently on an episode that you you have a problem that you are down a shitter You've lost a shitter Don't have a bath. Your toilet is out of commission Yeah, so I as the good friend that I am has solved this problem for you It is outside your front door. You want to go check it out? No, it's not it is I your front door. You want to go check it out? No, it's not. It is.

I'll be right back. Okay. Is today the day? Today's the day. I can't believe it. No. Did it really happen? Yeah.

Wait, didn't you organize it, Eric? It was expensive. No. Oh. There was nothing on my? No, because it was expensive. No. There was nothing on my front porch, by the way. Thank you. That's not good. Wait, it's not there? What is she thinking? I'll go look again.

Hold on. Do you think you just looked on the doorstep? When it's like... I hope it's there. If it's not there, nobody say anything. I gotta make some calls. What, when we came back you didn't see it?

No, it's not. It's not a subtle object. It's not a subtle object. This was the what color thing, right? Did you send it to the wrong house? Did you send it to one of my old houses? I'm going to have to call some people. We're at like an hour. We're going to have an early episode.

We should wrap up, guys, right? We should wrap up. I have to make some calls. How is it not out there? That's a great question, Gavin. That's a great question. Hold on. Maybe it would be in the street.

I mean, you would have immediately opened your door and seen it and then yelled, what the fuck? And we would have heard you on microphone. Why don't you go out and have a real look around? I'm going to go have a real look around. Or is this the joke? The joke is to get me to take my headphones off. No.

No, it's... I would like to get me to take my headphones off. No. There's no. No, it's. Yeah. I would like to wrap this up so I can make some calls because we're at like an hour. Then we won't get a reaction. Yeah, but it doesn't sound like there's a thing for him to react to at the moment. Gavin. Yeah, but if we end it and then he's like, oh, there it is.

I see your point. No, I don't. I think he would have seen it if it was there. I'm going to make, I'm going to, I'm going to, for the sake of comedy, even though I may be getting played, I'm going to take one more look. Were you sitting there the whole time to see if we talked shit? I think he was there the whole time. Yeah.

I think, I think that was a test. No, I left. That was a definite test. I'm still not sure if you guys are fucking with me now. No, I'm gonna go look one more time There's there's no way it you haven't seen it if it's there. I got a call. I got to make so many calls Well, it's not there. It's not there. No, it's not it's not there if it is not there Yeah, then send you a picture of where it is. Well. They do that is that I do I Gotta make some calls. I gotta make I don't know

I need to call some people I think usually people can see them when they let's wrap it up we have to wait for Jeff to come back so we can wrap it up he's he's doing a lap around his house Andrew do the outro well I gotta I mean we gotta wait for Jeff to come back this is funny this is

that's not good the only thing that's in my front yard that wasn't that's not supposed to be there is all of the dirt and mud that used to be under my house where they dug the giant fucking tunnel. Can you do an outro, please, Jeff? What did I miss while I was gone? It was mostly Andrew saying, we need to wrap this up. I need to make some calls.

It was mostly that the entire time you were gone. Do you? Here's what I'm going to guess. I'm going to guess Andrew thought he ordered a porta potty to my house. I'm not saying anything. And I'm going to guess it wasn't delivered. I'm not saying anything. I hope you didn't send a porta potty to somebody else's house.

I'm not saying anything. I got to make some calls. Let's wrap this up, Jeff. uh okay let's end the episode uh I think we covered everything I wanted to talk about uh basketball cards are getting real dark for me I need to get out of that uh it's starting to destroy me and uh Gavin you got anything else no just the outro that you're about to do yeah okay Andrew you want anything else you want to cover? Any more? Yeah. All right. Well,

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