F**kface - Regulation Sausage Talk 2

Episode Date: January 26, 2025

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Hello and welcome to another episode of sausage talk. This is our second sausage talk I believe this is coming out at the end of January the 26th or so you know that though because you're listening to it on that Day or someday later if that's the case you don't give a shit when it came out It is about six months Eric says almost to the day listening to it on that day or someday later, if that's the case, you don't give a shit when it came out. It is about six months, Eric says, almost to the day since the last episode of Sausage Talk, which would make this episode two. Wow. We just wrapped the year on regulation. I figured it's a good time to probably talk about it. And we're opening up twenty twenty five. It's our first full year as a company moving forward.

And we probably have a lot to figure out. We've been having sidebar conversations left and right all over the place. And I think we all agree it'd be better if we just got in the same room and hash some stuff out. Does anybody wanna start? I'm imagining the sidebar conversations of what you guys are having.

And then it's me just watching a kicking montage of martial arts films. I'm not in on the sidebar. So wherever you want to go, sounds good to me. Well, a lot of the sidebars are related to content that like we have a bunch of content that we've been pitching back and forth that we could kind of all go over together. I will say some of those some of the content we can't talk about in front of everybody. And yeah, and that goes in like every direction. Right. So it's like not to usher in a new paranoid era or anything, but there are bits of content that we just can't discuss in front of all of us, because some of us aren't aware of it.

If that makes sense. If you had to summarize 2024 with regulation, what was it the year of? Absolute chaos. It was it was the year that regulation was was born like a phoenix falcon from the ashes of the face. It was our phoenix falcon year. I'd say born not necessarily fully taken off yet, like still process of it's not as easy as they make it look on TV to fly off majestically.

I feel like still flapping them wings a little bit. So getting into the swing of things. There's a period where you're hopping around somebody's backyard. Yes. To the tree for a couple of weeks, flying like three feet in the air, then a foot and then walking for a bit And then make it almost up to the limb and then fall yeah, we're we're I think we got to the lowest rung of the limb We're not bouncing around the yard anymore, but yeah, we definitely have gone through that we you know Hold on a second. Yeah, my wings stretch out now. I

Feel like I can fly a little bit a phoenix isn't real right uh So where do you OK? Hang on. This rocks. This is great. Where do you think a phoenix lives? Is it like the werewolves of New Mexico or where do you think a phoenix lives? Oh, I was thinking, yeah, I was thinking like a sandy climate. Sandy. Yeah, I think maybe because of Flight of the Phoenix, the movie that may have me thinking of sand.

I associate a phoenix with fire and I associate fire with heat and ash and sand. So I'm right there with you. I think of a Phoenix living in the desert. It's not a lot of fires in the desert, though. You're just not out there. OK. Yeah. How often are you in the desert? What was the last time you visited the desert? I filmed in deserts. You also have to think maybe there were a lot of fires in the desert, and that's why

it's a desert. Oh, it's all ash. Yeah, I think the desert was at one time the wettest place and now it's the driest place. Something to think about, I guess. I don't even know where to begin with that. I don't think the desert was wetter than the other ocean. The what? Yeah, so we have a company now somehow. I think Gavin's saying it's not wetter than the other ocean. The what? Yeah, so we have a company now somehow.

I think Gavin's saying it's not wetter. I think he's saying it was at best as wet. It was as wet. Yeah. Yeah. So listen, let's we're talking about fucking mythical creatures and fucking desert oceans. So it is mythical. OK. Jesus Christ, guys.

Yeah. We seriously, though, we just we launched regulation on May 11th, 2024. And it is now January 17th. This comes out, whatever Eric said, the 26th. So we have a lot of a lot of company under our belt now. We successfully launched the product. The audience supported us overwhelmingly, the comment leavers and the regulation listeners of the world, and have helped give us this runway so that we can then build the company up and move forward.

And we've been taking it in a very meticulous stair-step approach. There is an extreme, I guess, urge to want to run out of the gate as fast as we can in a direction. And I think a lot of that comes from a from the enthusiasm of what we're doing. But B, also, we were running at full speed before Rooster did shit the bed. Right. And so we there's a there's a there's a extreme urge to get back to that speed because we've already run at that speed as a podcast. And the hard thing for me has been, and I don't know about y'all,

but one of the hard things for me has been knowing that that's not the way to do it and that's not the right way to go and that we can't flip from face to regulation one to one. We have to now as an independent entity build the business behind Regulation Up so that it is healthy and that it can support us and the product going forward.

And so I would say we're not running yet, but we're fucking, I got my jogging pants on. Oh, absolutely. Is how I feel. 100%. I feel like I'm stretching a lot, I've been getting into shape, I've been thinking about running a lot.

You know, I subscribe to a fucking website. And so I get like daily runners tips, you know, and I bought a new pair of shoes. And I've been wearing the jogging shorts around the house so that I get, you know, so they feel comfortable. So I'm ready. But I haven't I haven't gone outside and actually run yet. I feel like that's where we are. You're just dressed for it and you're stretching and stuff. You're just not actually doing that. I've eliminated every excuse to running at this point other than running, right?

I feel like that's where we are as a company. I do like that we've got pretty much to where we were content wise before it all went tits up, but we've not we've not got any of the bloat and it's just a very efficient machine right now. And it's nice that we've been baby stepping our dicks off instead of just good full tilt aimlessly. I totally agree. And listen, we're we're a group of guys with baby dicks already. So it makes sense that we would baby step.

I think it's also just like we have a machine, but it's still figuring out the machine to be even more efficient. I think there's a lot of room for efficiency and just building off of what we've done so far. So that's something that we definitely should talk about today. And I would like to talk about today is efficiency and something that we've been. And when I say we've been sidebar and stuff, a lot of the conversations I've been having just over the weekend when we were in Cancun and then just around town is just about like figuring out

how to improve the efficiency and reduce the gap between when we release content from when we record it. Sometimes, some content, some content it doesn't matter, but there are pieces of content like we just put out the Snake Eyes unboxing, which was a great video, and I thought Gaby did a great job editing it. But it was six months or so after we recorded it,

maybe five, and I think the audience, one of the sentiments I saw was that like, oh, I completely forgotten about this. And that wasn't a negative comment. But I don't you know, I think that's something that we want to we want to avoid when possible, you know, like when you want to continue that bit while the bit is hot and fresh and matters. And so maybe we dive in there.

I'd be happy with six weeks over six months. I think an interesting thing of figuring out where you're talking about, Jeff, like us taking flight. I feel like it's like we've put this car together and it's like, yeah, we can go. And then we realize, oh, fuck, we didn't we didn't put in a windshield. Like there are all these sort of like peripheral parts that are needed. But like we can drive without them. And then it's realizing once you're down the street of like, oh, we only put one rear view mirror in this thing.

This is not, oh boy. Okay, we got to figure that out. How many mirrors do you think a car has? One, but I couldn't remember the name for the thing you look for the left to the right. Cool. What are those called? The wing mirror, side view mirrors.

Yeah. Side view, yeah. I can remember the name of that. I know there's only one. What are those called? The wing mirror side view mirrors. Yeah. Side view. Yeah. I can remember the name of that. I know there's only one. I mean, that is actually pretty fitting though, because we do, I feel like an area that we've lost out on is we have slightly less organizational people, less eyes on it.

So we have a lot of stuff recorded that just slips through the spreadsheet and it's just like, oh yeah, what happened to those Halloween GTA videos? It's just like they're just not on the list. So reason. So we end up having stuff that we completely forget about and remember. Leah, I've been thinking a lot about this in terms of like let's play because something that I don't know, people may not have realized when we took over, let's play. We at no point were ever less than two months ahead of schedule for everything. Correct. And we would slide things.

But it was not the discussion of like, oh, wow, this is a few months old. Did not apply. And I think it's just because we had a structure there that we don't currently have that I'd like to look into implementing, where essentially we make a piece of content. We throw it on the calendar and it's there. And if we move it or if we decide like, you know what? This is more immediate.

We're going to put it here. That action is also represented in. OK, well, where are we putting this then? I is so easy to be like we we just did this. We're so excited about it. Let's get this out now. Oh, we're supposed to release this thing. It's from a game that's like three years old.

It doesn't need to necessarily come. It's not like there's a rush to have gameplay of this type of thing. We'll just we'll put it out later. And then we just kind of forget. And it's finalized. It's all done. It's just in the backlog. And I think having a more visual representation, I have a few. We would use air table and I'd love to be able to.

Something I've been meaning to look at a lot more within the past week, actually, but I just I've been sick. So my plan for this weekend specifically is to expand on that a little bit. How are you feeling today, by the way? Are you are you on the mend? Oh, I feel way better than I did. Yeah. I could tell yesterday when during our round of recordings that you had you had recovered to some degree because you had a lot of energy yesterday. You were kind of bouncing off the walls. It was great. Yeah. I listen.

I crashed hard in the evening. There's a repercussion for that. But yeah, I'm feeling way better. And it's just it's been fun. As you said, like, these are things we want to get more efficient at, but they're fun problems to have. Yeah. It's like we can do better at this. How can we deliver this and make it more enjoyable for the audience?

And also, it's just as people that enjoy this work, it is a thing of like, oh, I really want to solve this. Like, this is the thing I'm excited to brainstorm on. Can I fully blame someone for this problem, by the way? Yes. Nobody's stopping you. I'd like to blame Eric for this. Yeah, let's get into it. So, um, I was looking at the videos.

No, everyone else. Everyone else. Shut up. Looking at the videos that we're releasing for the stuff that we've shot and everything. Would love to get those off of Gavin's phone into an editor so that way we can get them a little bit more timely. They have been hanging out with the one person who said they're going to edit them.

And I'm not blaming you for not having time, but I am blaming you for having them. So if you really wanted to hand them over, put them in a drive, I would love to get them to an editor. We could get them all out within probably six weeks. And then that would solve that problem in terms of the gameplay videos. I laid out what I wanted to do today, which was dump the backlog and just go forward with what we have for GTA and gears.

And I feel like I've really, I feel like I've really laid out what I've wanted to do with a lot of this stuff. And that's all. Okay. Wild. Uh, well I edit the, uh, I edit the videos as soon as they're scheduled in. I mean, if you if you feel like, hey, let's put one out Sunday. It's edited for Sunday.

It's ready. Hey, that's great to know. I've been waiting on you because I've thought that I don't want to overload you by putting something on the schedule that you're not ready to edit. There is a fear of overloading Gavin that permeates. I know of all the people that I work with, I am most fearful of putting more on you because I don't think that's fair to you

for something that we've shot that way. Well, that's appreciated. But every time we've needed one out, I've been clear if I have time or not, and I usually do, and they will come out. Yeah. I define clear. Yeah. I've been managing you and working with you, not that I manage you now, but I did for a while,

and working with you for a long time. And your idea of clear and other people's idea of clear, I think might not necessarily line up perfectly. In the Monday meetings, if we decide to put one out, I say whether I could do it or not. I think- And it's been yes every time so far. Yeah, but your yes, there's like nine Gavin yeses and only two of them are yes. Yeah, like I'll take the blame for what we have.

I have no problem with that. I've laid out what I wanna do and whether you guys want to or not, that's up to you. I have no problem with that. I am very, very, very mindful of not asking more of you because your obligations are larger than the rest of us combined outside of this podcast. Okay. Well, yeah. You're being very fair and nice. You're being very fair and nice. And I feel bad because I'm a very, I'm a very fair. I'm the nice one. I'm a very fair,

nice person. Yeah. Yeah. No, go ahead. you want to dump the backlog this morning was absolutely wild. I don't want those videos. When we were talking about putting in a Thursday let's play or whatever, we would talk about a new slot. You were like, I don't want to start the new slot until we have the resources. We have more editors and I just want to get, I just want to get a big backlog before we start putting stuff out. Two months later, delete the backlog, sort the backlog.

Well, the backlog is deceptive, Jeff. I don't think you were here for this. Oh, I probably wasn't. We have a deceptive backlog. Most of it, Andrew talked about, is mostly GTA and gears. And so I'm saying get rid of the stuff that isn't that. Let's start fresh. And then now we have let's put out GTA and gears.

I think there's merit to what Eric's saying on a case by case basis. I don't want to flush an entire backlog, but I remember I've seen videos slip and stuff and like there's a Sea of Thieves video We recorded while we were still at rooster teeth Probably that has never made it out and I went back and looked at my footage and my footage isn't great And it's like does that do we need to put that Sea of Thieves video out or can we dump flush that and just record? A new Sea of Thieves video out or can we dump flush that and just record a new Sea of Thieves video, right? If there's a problem with Wreckfest, is Wreckfest so hard to recreate that we could just make a new Wreckfest video that doesn't have footage problems? You know what I mean? Like I think we could take it in a, we could be very, I don't want to,

I don't know how granular we want to get in this sausage talk, but we could go down the list and just make a decision video by video, carte blanching all of the GTA and all of the gears, because I understand those are the vast majority of our back catalog. But I do feel like there's a lot of weird one off videos that just maybe maybe don't need to come out. I think if the if the videos are just broken and jank beyond belief, like this missing audio and missing video, then that makes sense. But I think we should look at them.

I think what's important for me to clarify in this dumping of the backlog is just because we dumped the backlog doesn't mean we're suddenly recent. I just want that communicated not to us. And now I'm not talking just as like from an audience perspective of if we dump what we're talking about, we're still releasing GTA videos that we recorded five months ago. Like that doesn't that's not shifting. Correct. That's totally.

It's not like a sudden we're going to be timely on certain things. There's always going to be a delay. It is part of the size of our team and the editors we have at this. At least in this current reality of what we are, that will be a byproduct of making stuff. Yeah. And this is the video game stuff is also just a portion of what we're doing, too. I don't want it to. I want the pendulum to swing so far in the video game side discussion.

We don't pay attention to the supplementals and the podcast and the other stuff that we're doing, too, because the video game stuff is just a portion of what we're doing. But it is, I think, the piece that we need to figure out the most because it is next to recording the podcast itself, the easiest thing for us all to record together from home. It also becomes of like releasing the backlog. We have a bunch of Gears of War videos and we have a bunch of GTA videos. And the GTA videos, you know, like we can release those.

That's not really a problem. We've set a precedent on the Gears of War ones that they are at a certain tier. So then it becomes a question of like, even if we edited all of those, do we consecutively release 16 years videos? You understand what I mean? Like it causes there's a separate problem that needs to be solved in that scenario of what happens when one of these long form things ends up being tied to specific content here on our page.

Like what is the workaround to that? Do we remove it from that tier? Welcome to our new show, Years of Gears, where every week we release a new Gears of War video until we've played every Gears of War video. Like, that's just another thing to think of as far as scheduling. So it's not even sometimes in the scenario in which we have it all put together and edited, it then becomes a thing of us having to be really thoughtful on what we label as what type of exclusivity.

And then is there ever a scenario in which that exclusivity changes? Like my gut instinct to that is no. But at the same like we were 17 and so it's like I could see people being, hey, I pay for extra medium. I don't necessarily want my video to be a gears video every week. It wouldn't replace something that we already do for that tier, though. I think we were talking about having a slot that's just like a series slot. Yeah, we have, but we have released it in that context of this is the extra medium of that month.

I think we keep it in the same tier, but it can be in a new slot. I think those slots are great for one offs and also for us to test stuff with the Patreon members to see what sticks and what they like. And then if they latch onto something that we can peel it off into its own slot behind the behind the Patreon wall, whatever it's called. And do it that way, right? Like it can almost be like an incubator slot, because I agree. If I'm if I don't give a fuck about video games, I just like the podcast

and I like drafts and I like rankings and I love blindsides and that kind of stuff in the watch alongs. Then I'm going to I might be a little miffed if all I get for the next six months is a Gears of War video in that slot. Right. I don't want to do that for sure. Yeah, I think we should still look at our Patreon supplementals as a continuing thing and any long term series. Like if we do a weekly gears until all those videos are out,

that would be an additional. Yeah, that makes sense. I think I think that it just go ahead. Go ahead. I was just going to say in the context in which we're describing, that then becomes a thing of we need another editor for that. Yeah. And that's just something on our end that we need to be mindful of. Let's get one. I think the that's just something on our end that we need to be mindful of. Let's get one. I think the nice thing about it is, is that we I was looking at the numbers. We do make a little bit of money off YouTube, but it's dogshit compared to everything else. Right.

Yeah. And so the idea that we would have to release any content in a way that makes sense for YouTube is out the window to me. So if we wanted to like I'm just throwing this out there more out the window to me. So if we wanted to, like, I'm just throwing this out there more for the audience too. We can be flexible with a lot of the stuff we do. If it's a series like, Gears is a bad example because behind the paywall, but I wouldn't be opposed

to releasing five videos in one week on YouTube and two the next week if that's the way it works out for us. If that's the way it makes the most sense for the content. You know, I don't want to monkey, I want people to know when they can come and expect content. But I also feel OK with with releasing stuff whenever the fuck we want to, if it makes sense for the content and not because we're not playing an algorithm game anymore. Sure. Totally. That's sort of the joy and like one of the things that is so amazing

about us being supported on Patreon. And that is something that I bring up to remind myself, because I keep forgetting that because we did it. I did it the other way for so long. You got to keep like I'll be looking at YouTube analytics and be like for like 20 minutes and be like, oh, wait, this doesn't really matter. Why do I give a fuck?

This isn't. Yeah, this isn't where my audience is. This isn't where they're supporting us, you know, so just something to keep looking. We've been doing it the other way for so long. It's just a good thing to remind yourself pretty constantly I'm not worried about the analytics of it or whatever is just that I think when we start getting off track with Upload dates and everything and it gets screwy. I think it messes with the audience's expectation of when they can come and and get the thing that they want on what day and and I think when I think when we Start messing with people's schedules and everything. I think we're I think we're doing ourselves a disservice. I think that I think we're not doing I don't think we're doing the best for us. I think we're just going we have a bunch of videos. That's why I want to kill a bunch of the backlog.

I don't want to mess with schedules either. I guess I wasn't saying like, when we talk about adding stuff, it's almost always additive. It's very rarely are we are we replacing. And so that's kind of why I wanted to do the weekly and I suggested we do the Monday GTA again. I think it's also, I think people have an affection for that time slot from years ago, some of the audience. So I think it kind of appeals to them too, but it also adds a little bit of that structure. But I just, I guess I was thinking if we wanted to dump, we had a tranche of like eight videos we were holding on to for no reason.

If we wanted to dump them all at once, we could. I'm not saying we should. I'm not saying that's the best way to do it. But I'm saying I guess I care less about this stuff than I did previously. I'm more interested in just putting out in the way that makes the most sense for us in the audience and the content itself. I think there's all sorts of solutions to of even if it's just like, hey, these videos only live on Patreon and it's called like an opening

of the vault or something. Yeah. There's all sorts of ways we can handle it. I mean, we can dump in Drex Tuesday. Trinks Tuesday. I will say one thing that I've personally missed, and it's just it's one of the things of like it's the windshield thing of building the car we used to do every month on our schedule. We would have an office day and that sometimes would be live action stuff.

But a lot of the times it was remote and it would end up being like drafts. And it would be a day every month where we recorded like four or five drafts and a day. And I really miss having that cadence of supplemental on the schedule. And I wanted to float by you guys because we have a Thursday Let's Play Day where we record most of our stuff in that time frame. I'd love like a Friday, like draft day or just supplement like audio supplemental day to focus on the other stuff. I think that's a great idea.

I'm right there with you, Andrew. I I miss that as well. And there was like one of my favorite days ever recording was when we recorded. I don't remember what all three were, but we did the, uh, it was the day we did the mall draft and we just went back to back to back and every draft felt so different and had totally different energy. And it was just like, it was, it just felt like really accomplished knocking them all out in the same day. And I like doing that. I think that was a great format for recording, but we also need to be careful not to just

shit stuff out in that slot. If we can't, if there's nothing planned, I feel like we can easily not do the recording. We don't have to quickly be like, Oh, come up with something. I totally agree. But I feel like we're in a point right now with like drafts and stuff where we have like 60 that we're like, yeah, that sounds great. We should do that. And then we just don't have that built in mechanism right now of actually doing it. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure that won't happen for a while. But if it's like Thursday evening, we're like, oh, what should we do tomorrow?

I feel like if it's not forced, it's a lot better. Yeah, totally. And I think that's the idea of I mean, the flexibility. If we don't have anything to record, we don't need to record. We cancel it. But we also have have the sheets document that Eric created and that I populated over the holiday. And it's like 28 ideas in it now too, that it's like if we're ever hurting for something to do, we could look at that.

And there's a ton of stuff that we've identified that we really wanna do at some point that we just haven't made it through yet. Yeah, I think that'd be great. I think we are at a point where we could have a new editor dedicated to a specific series. Like you could potentially just have a GTA editor. And whenever he's finished or she's finished, start downloading the next one.

And they'll always just be one of those ready to go. Or maybe with gears or something. That's sort of what I have going right now. Do you have a new person? Not a new person. It's just they are rotational. Like they they they've got a lot of other stuff going on. So I like to be able to. It's somebody we worked at with at Let's Play. I named Sean. They've done a lot of other stuff going on. So I like to be able to. It's somebody we worked at with at Let's Play.

I named Sean. They've done a majority of our GTA five stuff, just like coincidentally. And I recently reached out to them like late last week saying, hey, we have a bunch of these GTA videos. It'd be awesome if you could just like focus in on these for us and just hammer them out so we could start releasing them with some more regular cadence. That's something I don't think we've actually

ever talked about within our own company is that you handle all of the post interaction. Yeah. And he does great. Thanks, Nick. No, it's for real. It's so efficient, so helpful and efficient. Yeah, Nick is absolutely right.

You're very, very good at it. Like from finding the people to like making the intro to getting them the footage and then delivering us the edited video, you just do it all. And here's the other thing, making sure they get paid, seeing it through on the back end, making sure that everything is done in an administrative way. Andrew's taking care of all that stuff for like this video game post stuff. It's fantastic. And I don't know how you're so competent at that when you can barely start a game lobby. Or the status of your computer altogether. Yes. The fact that you do that with your pile of shit. Unbelievable.

Well, we have a Q&A that, you know, part of our Patreon membership thing is that Falcons, I believe, can leave questions to be answered during sausage talks. I reset my computer at like five a.m. multiple times because I'm like, I need to be able to write these down and I don't need it to freeze like I need my runway for my Mac is like, if it's chunking, we're going to we need six hours. Is this squinkle chunking? It's oh, as soon as we're done this recording,

I'm heading to see if I can get some. I better go get some, too. I just remember some I scheduled a chunk. What's up, Spotify? This is Holly. I remember this one time we're on tour. We didn't have any guitar picks and we didn't have time to go to the store. So we placed an order on Prime and it got there the next day.

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machines so we can keep up with what we need to do. Because that's not something we were able to do when we were a glass company. Like that was, you know, the budget and what we were doing or whatever. There was no hope for that. But we have a company where, and I don't know if people know how this stuff works or whatever, where it is like, when you get this money, X amount needs to be spent. So that way, like, it's not taxed to hell and everything. Like, that's the point of having a bank account with like this company.

And so when we look at this stuff, we need to buy machines for you guys, especially you. But before we do that, we definitely need to see if Gavin can figure out your tech support needs. Yes. Which I want to do desperately. Oh, it'll be so funny. Yeah, not at all. Like, I don't mean this in a disparaging way for where we were working previously.

But when I was I just sort of ended up as the head of Let's Play for that. And we had an issue where Eric and Nick were on last generation consoles. Yeah, we were. And it would last generation consoles. Yeah, we were. And it would cause some problems. Yeah, it did. And it was a thing of vocalizing of, hey, it would be it'll be really nice to buy some current gen systems that cost like three hundred dollars.

And that not being a thing that was immediate, that they're like, we needed to build a justifiable case as to why we needed this. And it was just a thing of like, oh, oh, God, like, this is a $600 purchase for the Let's Play channel. Almost this is all of the equipment I've had over the last six years. I bought personally because I just couldn't deal with trying to get it purchased through the company. I got the same. Yeah. Especially if it's stuff I can find use for

in my other line of work. I would just went ahead and just pay for stuff myself because going through all that shit. I also find it funny that Andrew is our person who handles all the posts. I like that he doesn't watch or prove anything though. As soon as it's delivered, it's back on us. And cause you, cause you hate listening

to the stuff we're in, right? Or you're in. I just think I'm such a bat. Like, I know sort of what I'm good at, what I'm bad at. I am so bad at determining if a thing is bad or good in the way that like you have such a clear editor's vision of like how things should move. I don't know how to say this in any other way, but I am way too content with things being boring. Like my tolerance for boring is too high.

I feel the same way. I just don't have like. I'm with you. I'll watch it and I'll go like, oh, this is nice. Like this is, you know, we're just hanging out. It's kind of a vibe. It has a feel and then you will Gavin be with like a scalpel and then it'll, it'll be so much better whatever your version, after it's gone through those notes, that I just go, I have no value here. I don't know how to do this. Andrew, you've totally, I've never been able to articulate how I feel

when I get stuff back for notes, where I watch it and I go, yes, yeah, it's fine, we're hanging out, we're doing this. Like I have length to it, I don't give a shit. And then Gavin comes in, and to say that he makes it 10 times better

is an understatement probably because it is always better after a round of Gavin notes. Always, always. I try to keep it at no more than like two rounds though. Like very rarely am I watching the second or third version of anything, but I feel like editing, cause I've probably edited a thousand videos in my life.

I feel like that's been the most helpful thing for me in terms of then turning around and creating the content, at least just having something in the back of my mind where I'm like, oh, that'll be fine because of this in the edit, blah, blah, blah. I feel like those moments are helpful. And when I'm actually recording. Totally. And it shows. Yeah. I think for me, when I'm making stuff, it's more of like, does this feel good in the moment? I'm sure we'll have enough to make something of it.

But I don't have any or I don't think I ever will. I think if I focus on editing the rest of my life, I would never have as clear of a vision as you do in terms of like what is actually needed for this thing to be the best version of itself. Interesting. It is a very impressive skill that you have. I feel like most of my notes though are, hey, we're talking about this, cut to it. Or if I remember from my own footage, sometimes I'm like, oh, you know, that bit where Eric fell off the roof,

way funnier from this other person's angle than his own angle. Like a lot of the stuff in game play, it looks a lot funnier from another viewpoint than your own, especially if you get killed. I feel like as a rule, we try to give editor those notes in the content when it happens like, oh, that looks so much better from my angle. Cut to that. You know, yeah.

But we try to help the editors out in that regard, too. My favorite example of this is, you know, I was in a majority of the Let's Play stuff we did at Rooster Teeth. There is one video I wasn't where Jeff and Gavin did a bum bait. And I was like, this is great. Like, I get to just watch this as a fan of this content. This is a man. What a time. And so I watched it and I was like, that was great.

No notes. And then Gavin came in and he had all these notes of like what should be trimmed and where. And then I watched his take of it and went, oh, no, this is yeah. This is great. Like, this is so much better in a way that I would have even know. Like I had no concept that there was better to be. Yeah, I think that was I remember that there was like a game that ended early because everyone dropped out that I just cut entirely.

And then there was like a 15 second silent gap as we were waiting between games. And I was just like, we could just lose stuff like that, because I feel like if if people have these videos on in the background, sometimes they'll wonder if they just stopped playing and we could just cut those moments. Yes. I had something, something kind of like that happened at Roosteeth once when I was the creative director and I proved a trailer for a show that was coming out and I had like three notes, but otherwise I was like, yeah, it's pretty good. And then Jordan got a hold of it and the notes came back. It was like a novel of notes of why this was a bad trailer And I thought man, I really like that trailer and then I read all of his notes and I went like I hate that fucking trailer

He's totally right and you realize it so stupid in that moment Like why did I not see all these eleven things that he saw, you know, it's all different perspectives, isn't it? Exactly. exactly. I think that's why we work so well too, because I think we're willing to give the notes if we need to or whatever, or know where we're strong and where we're not to like do that stuff.

I could never hope to give the notes that Gavin gives, cause I just go, I never even thought about that. Like Andrew's saying, like I just don't, I'm not wired that way. Like that's just not where my brain is. And I don't know, it's pretty special to see, I'm not wired that way. That's just not where my brain is. And I don't know, it's pretty special to see, but then Gavin will come in and he's like, hey, let's do this video where I just edited by yourself.

I'm gonna edit this 25 minute video of us playing GTA and it's so cinematic. And it was like, this is an Xbox 360 game and this looks like fucking crazy. It's gorgeous. And it's like, I never would have thought to make something that looks like this. I've never had a love for like the edit aspect.

Like you make a movie, you make it three times. You're making it in pre, you're making it like in production, you're making it in post. I don't have the love for post. Gavin is so good at it. So, so, so good at it. It's great. Yeah, a few years ago, I learned how to use the Rockstar Editor,

like key framing, camera angles, and just making like little cinematic things. And then I was never able to use it in content. I did actually record a bunch of game replays for Achievement Hunter, but I never got the go ahead to make it into a video that we all did. But now, something I like about this format though Is that I can just make stuff and try it with you guys and see if it works and everyone's kind of okay with that experimental style Yes

100% I think it is such a I don't know what the word Advantages or just it is a thing I appreciate so much about all of you that everyone has an absolute willingness to try whatever. Yes. And it doesn't necessarily mean it will work, but just like not having that hurdle of trying to just get the thing made. Like we can make the thing and then learn if it's good after the fact and we can move on. Yeah. It is so nice because even if we burn an hour of all our time,

it's, you know, five hours spent. But I feel like a lot of the time, even if it's not something we would put out or not, something that works in this iteration, we can make something from it or build on it. And it just wasn't a waste of time. Yes, it is so not like God, let me tell you, man, it is you talk about how nice that is given my previous role in the company. previous role in the company, that was the thing that I probably had to learn to get the best at that I didn't enjoy doing at all, which you would assume that because I was a founder that they would make everything I wanted to make. But that's not how that shit works at all. In some ways, I think that it works the opposite of that at some point. But I you have to get really good at selling an idea to people when you have an idea. I had to get really good at selling it to the achievement guys and getting them on board and then selling it to whoever management was at the time and getting them on board to give us money.

And you're having to do one sheets and you're having to do pitch docs and you're doing presentations. And I hated every second of it. But luckily, I got good enough at it that we were able to get most of our stuff made but the idea that we don't have To do that now that I one sheet doesn't have to get generated for us to make something You have like that is so much of my behind-the-scenes roosterteeth life that Nobody even most of y'all maybe Eric some never saw, you know Was just the fucking work I had to get in. I had to put into cajoling people to give us enough money to do something or to say yes or to even get the fucking cast to buy in because nobody wanted to do anything at

some point, you know? It was like constant. I felt like a salesman 24 hours a day at Rooster Teeth. I think we talked about this before. Maybe it was like during a lunch or something. I had no idea that that's how you guys operated. Like I never, you know, it's not like I was watching a ton of Achievement Hunter or anything,

but I didn't know that people were like saying no to ideas. And this was, I don't know, like a year into us doing like let's play and stuff. And they're like, yeah, it was so hard to pitch this to this person or this person didn't want to do that. And it's like, what? The video games? People said no to the video games. And it's like, I just don't.

I don't have that. I have games that I want to play. But when you guys go, let's play web fishing, it's not like I'm going to go, no, I don't want to play web fishing. Like, what? And sometimes it was because of money and stuff. But a lot of times it wasn't. But like hardcore Monopoly was a show we did that everybody loved.

We did it for two seasons. The company couldn't get enough of it. The audience couldn't get enough of it. It was a huge driver for first and all that stuff. But before that, I spent four fucking years pitching that show over and over and over again and getting told no and then trying again in a couple of months or hey, we got a new tranche of money. Let's try again. Or, you know, our corporate goals have restructured. So maybe it fits in. It just it took me four years to get that

made. And then you get it made. And they're like, cool, we want more of it. What hardcore everything. And you're like, God, you fucking assholes. I just love that. That's that I don't have to live in that world. I mean, do you remember that? That's when we, I think we did our first sausage talk. That was the thing I said about taking over Let's Play of us being mindful or worrying about like, we're gonna do this and all they're gonna ask for

is this thing. And it's going to take focus away from the podcast. And like a note that I'm seeing from people online is like, yeah, I just really like the podcast. I wish they wouldn't talk so much about the Let's Plays or I wish, you know, it wasn't such a focus or whatever. And it's like, yeah, that's the thing I was afraid of. And we're more controlled for it and everything.

And I don't know, it's just still something to be mindful of, I suppose. Totally agree. Totally agree. That's sort of where I think having that like Friday or whatever supplemental slot, just having something regular for that, I think would be nice because it's hard, you know, like we've had so much fun with video game stuff. But if you looked at the history of our show, it is incredibly new in the terms of like we went a long time without touching anything video game related. And it's been such a fun thing to explore.

And obviously, there's that history with Achievement Hunter. But I just it's it's wanting to like be mindful of we really started being audio centric. And let's not forget to develop that. Yeah, I think our main podcast is is the main focus and always will be. And even though we play video games for work, we kind of always did that. Like Andrew and I used to play all the time outside of work before we were recording them. So it's not like we're like using up resources that we would be putting into the podcast.

But I do think we can be better about not going over moments from let's plays we just filmed in the middle of a regulation. It's just so much of what we do is enthusiasm based. But I think I think it's good to keep it in check. And, you know, I'll be honest, I love doing the video game stuff and it's reignited my love of video games. And I'd be scared to see how many hours of Call of Duty Black Ops 6 I have

in me right now going for these Dark Matter skins. I just hit my fifth prestige yesterday. Oh wow. Yeah, I'm getting there. But I've never had as much fun playing a video game with you guys as I have doing a draft with you guys. So just so the audience knows, like I love the video game stuff. It's low hanging fruit.

It's easy to do. It's great. But when we're cranking and arguing about hot dog and ice cream pairings, that to me is like Shangri-La. That's my garden of Eden. Personal. It's a lot funnier to see dogs and cream draft on the calendar too. Yeah, it is. I said like, you know, that's pure creative expression and I,

it doesn't get any better than that, I think, personally. And we should say that Andrew obviously handling all of the video game posts, but pretty much it's just Nick doing the audio post. Oh yeah. You just take care of it. It's, it's pretty simple. The upside to that is I don't have to worry about the post on the other side of stuff. The only thing I'm really doing is just helping gathering.

We use a backup system that's, that's an add-on to discord. It's called Craig and he automatically records. It's not the best quality, but it's still better quality than say, not having audio at all. So, so after a recording is over, I'll go back and pull those and add them to the folder where we've uploaded everything. And that's kind of like the extent of where I touch all the, any and all of the gaming stuff.

But all the audio stuff is just simple because it's the podcast and it's the drafts and it's all the other things and it's weekly. So it's easy to track in that sense. And I still have the Craig backups if I need them. We rarely need to use them, but they're there just in case. And it's, you know, there are weeks where it's obviously

busier than others, you know, someone's out of town. We have a holiday or something coming up or whatever. And we've recorded multiple like back to back. Suddenly it becomes like, oh, where the hell's this thing? But it's been really simple and easy to keep track of everything now that I don't edit a hundred podcasts. Yeah, but I was going to say, like,

I run two companies with you and you are the busiest, I think, in both. Like, you're just constantly on something, doing something, onto the next edit. Here's more stuff, here's another proof. Hey, can we get this up on this day? Like, I think you're and you have a very young kid. You are you are insanely busy. You're insanely

busy. It's crazy. Well, it's funny, because it's like the the balance of the back and forth is like, I don't want either company to feel like they're not being prioritized. So I prioritize both like certain days of the week, like focusing on an edit. And if we have a recording or something come up, I can push that edit back. And it's just kind of finding that balance.

And obviously the young kiddo is also a bit of a, like last week Eric was like, we were gonna record something at a set time. We're like, we're all ready, let's do this. And I was like, nah, I dropped off my kid. I had to go to the car shop. Oh, the kid has a doctor's appointment. Oh, the kid has another doctor's appointment. You know, it's just, so it's like finding that balance.

And Jeff probably knows better than most. It's been funny jokes on our end though. We've all appreciated it. Yeah, in the moment they're not as funny to me, but afterwards I love it. Are you, now do you, but do you feel good about that, Nick? Like, do you feel like you're in a good place? Is there anything we could do to lessen the load to make your life easier?

Because I think it's good. It's a good time for a check in because you are balancing these two companies. And like, for instance, if you need us to Gavin and I will go over there tonight and burn 100% eat to the ground. Happy to do that. Why did we show you the office? No, I think I'm in a pretty good spot. I think the only times where we could potentially run into things,

but we know ahead of time usually, it's just when we have a supplemental that is one of the audio ones in addition to like say a busy recording week for us or a busy recording week for 100% eat. So it's probably just up to me to be like, hey, do you mind if we reach out to someone else? And we have actually had a couple of folks that we reached out to to help us with a couple edits. Dennis, who actually edited face in several instances, probably in between when I was unavailable and when Kelly was unavailable to edit the original run of the show. And he would step in and do that. So he's been able to help us with a few things.

He actually put together all the Advent calendar stuff since that had a video component as well. So he's been very helpful. It is weird actually that you mentioned that because I was listening to an audio. I think it was an actual regulation episode. It was. And I was like, someone else edited this, didn't they? I could just tell from listening. It was snappier.

It was a little bit snappy, there was less pauses. Did you like it better? Do we like Dennis better than Nick? Hey Nick, plug your ears for a second. Earmuffs. Okay, hold on, how about this? I feel like Nick edits us the best. I do too.

He is us. He's us. Aw. I put it that way. Thank you. I feel like we kind of like have discussed kind of scheduling stuff. Is there anything related to like the schedule that we want to touch on that we haven't? Well, there's going to be a period at some point where I think we talk about new ideas

and some of the new ideas are going to would be related to altering the schedule. So I don't know if that's a natural. Yeah, why don't we want to just hold off on that? I'd love to hear about new ideas are going to would be related to altering the schedule. So I don't know if that's a natural segue. We want to just hold off on that. I'd love to hear about new ideas. Why don't we do it real quick? Just run through merch. And I don't think it needs to be a long conversation, but just kind of catch people up to where we are, because merch is the thing that face did very well

and that regulation has it has in its infancy right now. And we're definitely like merch is one of the reasons I feel like I'm not jogging yet, but we're getting close. You know, we did the big run. What we did in 2024 was we created the structure. We found a partner that looked good that we wanted to give a shot to, that we thought maybe we could trust,

that worked with some people that used to work at Rooster Teeth that we had a lot of respect for. And we did essentially two tests through that company to make sure that the website works, the company is able to handle the volume. As a matter of fact, that company did a fucking no shade to our previous fulfillment house at Rooster Teeth,

but the new company handled those gurglers better than any gurgler drop we've ever had at Rooster Teeth. I agree. They were so quick and efficient and on it. And their response to us was, that was great. We want more, which I fucking love to hear. Right. And so I think we all feel now in twenty twenty five really good about the partnership we have with our fulfillment company

and the pipeline that we have developed. And now we want to turn the nozzle on the hose a little bit more. Obviously, we have more gurglers coming in February and kuslers as well. We've talked about that. But we also have some T-shirt related merchandise coming up in the few months. We've been we were in the lab. I don't have we talked about this on episode? Not really.

It's something that we kind of like poked around, but I don't think we like talked about it, talked about it, because we didn't know if it could be like made. Yeah. But it can be made. So we should probably talk about it on the main podcast then. But we have an innovative T-shirt idea that we're going to launch, hopefully in the next few months. And that I think is going to revolutionize casual dress. You're going to be able to get a lot more mileage

out of your clothing than you used to and we're pretty excited about that. But that's kind of where we are, is now that we feel really good and we feel like we have a solid foundation, we wanna start making more merch and doing it more in the way that we did with F***face, which is where the merch is very often

a piece of the bit or a part of the bit or the reason for the bit or the byproduct of the bit, but it's somehow of the content and it's not just a logo slap. And that was a scary thing for us because we didn't know that we'd be able to get that kind of service again outside of RT. That's a tremendous boutique service

we received in the company. I think a thing that, like we released the Gerplers and there were 4,000 and it sold out so fast and everything and people like, why don't you just do more? And it's like, we've never done anything like this as just five guys. We didn't like, we don't know what we're doing. We don't know if this is going, we could have gotten 4,000 and the whole thing could have tanked and we couldn't have, and we could have sold none because of a issue with, with Shopify.

Like there could have been so many things that went wrong. We had to, we had to test in like a bunch of different ways. That's why we put the shirt out. Like we're baby stepping into this thing, not because it's, I think with like content, we can be a little bit more experimental. I don't want to be experimental with your money. This is why we don't do pre-orders.

It's why we do merch like the way that we're doing it and we're slow rolling it and we're figuring it out now is because when it's your money parting from you, I don't want that to be an issue. I want you to be thrilled with the thing that you got and the thing that you bought and there were no problems and it was super smooth. That's what I'm hoping for every time

we're putting stuff out and now I feel really confident working with this company in what we're doing and I am so excited for like mid February with these new Gerplers. Can you imagine like my nightmare, we always talked about like, you know, with the ordering and stuff and how many to order, but my real nightmare was what if we sell 4,000 Gerplers in 10 minutes and the company can't ship them?

Exactly. They're overloaded and it breaks their system and they're having to hire seasonal help to come in. And now instead of having 4,000 people disappointed because they didn't get a gurgler, we have 4,000 people disappointed because they paid money for a gurgler that they didn't get, which is way worse to me. Yep. So, you know, appreciate everyone being patient with us.

I feel like especially for this drop or whatever, there were people that were disappointed. They didn't get it. And I totally understand. I, you know, I want the things that I want when I want them as well. But I really appreciate people being patient and understanding that we are just five guys trying a new thing with a company that is a new company that we hadn't worked with before ever. Like we worked with Natalie and we worked with Tony and well, I don't know any of these other people. And it was really positive. It was a super positive thing that went really well. And I think now we're really excited to ramp up. I think this year is gonna be the year of really cool merch for us. Yeah, I think so too. But that's merch in a nutshell. I feel like we've talked ad nauseam about it in previous Sausage Talks, but we're in a really good place.

We build a good foundation and we're excited to start taking more swings. We'll announce the Gerplers soon in like an actual episode also, but it'll be mid February, so don't worry about it. In addition, I think with, you know, moving forward and looking forward for new stuff, I think we're also very open to the idea

of looking at the back catalog for merch that people really identified with or like that they weren't able to get more of. Like, I don't, like, we could sell more scrumping signs or Protected by Falcon signs if that was a thing that people wanted You know like that because that stuff is in the vault doesn't mean the vault stays or has to stay shut Important to know that we have the rights to all those things and we can make them Yeah, as we see fit we can look in both directions with yeah

We talked about it the other day and it was the slop o'clock clocks or whatever and we just went that thing was so good and it didn't sell. That's the thing I'm worried about. It was just us being bummed to death about that slop of clock. God, I love it too because we all talked about how we have it hanging in our houses. It's like I'm looking at it right now. Me too. It's right behind me. It's great. I love that thing. It's great. Fantastic. OK, Andrew, do you have some Falcon questions or is there anything else you guys want to get at? I sure do. Yeah. Is there anything else we want to touch on before I feel like we wrap on questions?

I think we go to questions and we kind of just see where it goes because I have a feeling there's gonna be more that We're gonna want to talk about and this is really gonna spark us in a direction I do I do think we don't know we could do it after questions But I do think Eric we should pitch Wheel of Decades at some point in this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Hey guys, stay tuned through questions because at the end of questions, we're pitching Wheel of Decades at some point in this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, guys, stay tuned through questions because at the end of questions, we're pitching Wheel of Decades. And are we Nostradamus? I am so excited to learn what both those are. I pulled some questions.

We honestly we should make time to do a sausage talk that are just questions. We have so many of them that are good. These are just some that I pulled. If your question is not asked here, don't worry. I like I have it saved. It's just these are ones that I pulled. If your question is not asked here, don't worry. I like I have it saved. It's just these are ones that I pulled for this specific recording. First one comes from Mr. Fedora Mustache.

Would the guys ever retry old content slash bets slash alphabet? 100 percent chocolate is successful bean hole bobbing for Bob. I was curious if you guys had any bets that you felt like didn't deliver in the past or that you'd have any interest in revisiting? I thought that was an interesting question. Nothing came to mind for me personally. I want Eric to drink the bovro Do we talk did we talk about that in Mexico? Yeah, like oh have you ever had that like no and you're like you should try It no, I'd like to see Nick wants it. Yeah Hey, Nick wants it. Okay. That's what we should do me and Nick will try it together. Oh, that's a great idea. Yeah.

It used to be that the food stuff was typically done by Jeff, Andrew and myself. Yes. Before you two other guys became a bigger part. And maybe, yeah, maybe there's like a little backlog gauntlet of disgusting food that you should go through. I will say as a person who's had a bav two ways, state-sided overseas, the best way to experience Bavaral for the first time would probably be in England itself. Maybe we should make a trip over to England just for you guys to drink Bavaral.

Watch some foie. Yeah, we could do that too. Ooh, okay. You just increased the price of this bit. Yeah, no kidding. I thought it was gonna be $1, and it's way more than $1 now. $1,000.

I think the stuff that we need to pay off is the face off stuff. Yes. I think we need to do, we'll figure it out. We don't have to get into it here or whatever. We need to do the deputy Indiana thing. We have to figure out. Billboard is a pretty loose term, I think, at this point,

because we don't have the buying power of Warner Brothers. But I think Nick needs to wear these boots and we'll figure that out at a later date. And we have to physically visit Deputy Indiana and at least put a stick with a sign on it in the ground or something. Do you think there's a guy in Indiana or Deputy Indiana called Bill? And it could just be Bill's board. I do. He just holds it sometimes. He holds it sometimes. This is Bill's board that he occasionally holds it sometimes. He holds it sometimes.

This is Bill's board that he occasionally holds. You know what? I had the exact same thought. I completely agree with you, Gavin. How many? What was the population? It's less than 10,000. It was like 800. Yeah, very, very, very, very, very low. There's got to be a bill and 800 people.

There's got to be a bill. One in 800 name in Indiana. Yeah. Yeah, I guarantee you. There's probably to be a bill and 800 people. There's got to be a bill. One in 800 name in Indiana. Yeah. Yeah, I guarantee you. There's probably 10 bills. Well, it does say Deputy Indiana population 19. Whoa. I thought it was like 800 when we looked at it last time. Yeah.

Oh, no. Maybe they had a bad one of COVID or something. The census in 2010 was 86. In 2022, population of 19. That might be a stretch for a bill. It's possible, though. It might be. was 86 in 2022 population of 19. That might be a stretch for a bill. It could is possible, though. It might be. Maybe we'll just stick it on Bill's grave.

Oh, my God. I thought we got past the grave thing with you. He's dead. He doesn't care. He's in heaven. Or hell. To be determined. Hell, fuck him. Next question comes from Josh Thomas. What have been some of the crew's favorite moments since the rebrand?

Any like specific thing jump out to you guys is like, man, this is great. I think the streams for me have been something where it's like doing a make way thing and then it being five or five or being yelled at for an hour and Pico Park. And that's one bit. There's one bit of Pico Park where I was just I was behind Eric and he had to jump over a thing and I just kept ramming into the back of him and he and he just goes, give me space. Give me space.

Give me space. Give me space. Give me space. I back off and he runs straight into the enemy. No, I don't remember that. I back off and he runs straight into the enemy. No, I don't remember that. I really enjoyed Sloppy Joe's bingo, Sloppy Bingo on Halloween. Oh, that was so much fun.

That was a great one. Yeah. Also, the night we watched Eric's wrestling show together with the audience, we did the watch along. That was so great. I appreciated that so much. That meant so much to me. Thank you very much. That really was great. We had a blast doing it.

I think it's not even like a moment that sticks out to me. It's the regular schedule that we have that I look forward to. Like, before we recorded this today, I was sitting in the Discord for half an hour, just going like, I'll see if anyone's early. Like, I just, I love, I love just being able to make the time to do this stuff where we didn't have the time for it previously.

Now it's like a lot of game plays, a lot of other stuff. And it's just, it's fun. It's like a lot of fun to do. And I love doing it. I never don't look forward to getting together to do this stuff. Yeah, that's such a great call. I had a very similar experience where I guess last week

I was super sick and I was going to miss our Monday sync, but I was awake. I was like, I'll just I can't talk, but I'll just listen so I can keep in the loop. I'm like, what this week looks like. And that was the highlight of my week that week. And as I spent the rest of the week going like just having that, like 30 minutes to hang out with you guys, it was just so much fun. How lucky I am that I get to have that be part of my work. That like the highlight of my week to that point from just like happiness

and like entertainment was a Monday sync meeting. It's crazy. That's an incredibly privileged position to be in that I'm incredibly thankful for. I feel the same way. I really cherish all the time that we get to just chat and record and do work. And even in the time in between, I'm really excited to make stuff and then just show it to you guys like we did with the GTA highlights. And I went and made that little GURPLUR promo. I was just so excited to show you after I was done making it. Oh, it's so cool.

I think the moment I realize when we've gone, and this is a poor example, but it's the only one that's in my head at the moment because I just saw it again. I realize when we've gone and this is a poor example but it's the only one that's in my head at the moment because I just saw it again, but Realizing when we've gone from like Falcon to Falcon where you just like you're in a moment and something is interesting Or like hot dogs a great example a hot dog was a throwaway question It wasn't actually it wasn't a question a hot dog was my answer to a question I was asking you guys. And you go from like to realize when you've gone from like that moment where it's just like the dumbest little thing or you're like, is that a fucking Falcon that just walked by the pool? And then the next thing you know, you're sold out of merch, you know?

Or there's a hot dog count on the website and everybody's, you know, reddits awash with people tracking their hot dogs. And you're like, it's so weird when you have that. There's like a moment when you realize, oh, that little thing became this big thing, because you've been along for the ride the whole time. So it feels quite natural to you. But when you at some point, you naturally take a step back and then you see it for like, how did that dumb thing turn into this big thing? That's a really cool feeling.

And I felt that a lot this year. It's weird to see like quite a heated or quite a serious discussion over such a dumb thing sometimes as well. Mm hmm. Like, what counts as a hot dog? Yeah. I love it so much. And I get it in person a lot.

That's a question people like to ask me when they run into me and I gotta be like, well, there's a spirit to it. We were talking the other day about how exciting it is to run into regulation listeners in real life. It's that so many of them are right up to date on the podcast. They'll talk to you about something that came out yesterday. And because it's still fresh in my mind, I'm like, yeah, can you believe it? Like, what a bunch of bullshit. Immediately get in the middle of that.

It is awesome because you feel like you have something like you can talk about now, right? Like it's really cool. It really is cool when somebody comes up to me and says, oh Jeff, it's so nice to see you I loved red versus blue and I watched it every day in middle school. You meant a lot to me and you go thanks, man I really appreciate that and then you move on your day But then somebody comes up to you though. I really like what you did yesterday. You're like fucking awesome. Yes, great like what you did yesterday, you're like fucking awesome. Yes, great. Next question is from Paul Davenport.

Any update on the Eric and or Nick plays Halo two? Yes. So has so NASA lasso. That's the thing we talked about that. I'm very excited as a possibility doesn't even have to be Halo two. Just Eric's first experiences with some of these games being in a lasso format, I think it's so funny. Don't make it Halo 2. That's cruel. It couldn't be Halo 2 because it's two player. Is it?

It's a two player, but it's also the hardest, most unforgiving. Yeah, I think that's mine and Nick's series. Yeah, yeah. That could finally be Gavin and Nick's show. I'd watch it. I hope we still get along at the end. It's hell. What's a lasso that we do then?

I don't know anything about this. Reach was a good lasso, right? Three to Reach. Reach works. Three would be doable probably. Three and Reach are great. There's also like the endurance based stuff in ODST that we could do.

Like we could try and get that two hour achievement. Remember that one? Yeah, let's do that. The FID master. FID master challenge. There'd be fun. Remember that one? Yeah, yeah. The fit master. Yeah. Master challenge. There's a few of those, right? Yes. Ooh. Next question comes from Christopher Shanks. Have you guys thought of doing a cassette release of an episode

since you've done the vinyl cassettes more popping up now and like a weird way? Also, I don't know a lot about cassettes, but theoretically, couldn't we make that ourselves as opposed to pressing a vinyl? Like record a cassette in real time, one at a time. That's what I'm saying. Like, couldn't we theoretically do that?

Like there's no, we can't press a vinyl, but we could technically make a shitty cassette. Yeah, we could. It would take like nine years to make 10,000 of them probably. Who's we? Who is we of them probably. Who's we? Who is we? Oh yeah, who is we? Well, Nick's the audio guy. That's true.

I mean, I feel like we'd be doing it just to do it, right? Yeah, I do not feel a pull to do cassette anything. And then also in terms of like what march capabilities I guess we have and what we could do. I just, I don't know. I don't know, our cassette's gonna bang. I don't really, we'd have to be like so limited. Andrew and Nick, I did pitch Gavin and Eric

on an idea for a vinyl over the weekend that I don't think they're on board for, but maybe you guys are excited about it? No, absolutely not on board for it. No, absolutely not. We were talking about different things to do with the wheel. One of the funny ideas we came up with is a pocket wheel of decisions. You spin it and then it like, for it. No, absolutely not. We were talking about different things to do with the wheel. One of the funny ideas we came up with is a pocket wheel of decisions.

You spin it and then it like, whatever it lands on, it's like, it's kind of like the magic eight ball, but you just carry it around in your pocket. And when you ever, you don't want to make a decision, you spin the wheel and then it tells you like, half a car or no, or do it tomorrow. But what if we recorded, similarly, what if people wanted to glean insights from the wheel?

What if we created a vinyl that was the wheel and then every song on the vinyl is like an eight second song, eight second track, and it's just 55 minutes of going, yes, 11. Do it Wednesday. And then you just wherever you turn the record on, wherever you drop the wheel and whatever you hear, that's your answer to your question. I like it. I like it a lot. We got to do this. All we got to do is convince Nick. Yeah, let's do it. Why not? It have to be two sided, though, because one of the things that have to be flipped to the other side. Yeah, go to other. Yeah.

Go to other wheel. Yeah. Go to other, flip, yeah. Go to other wheel. Yeah. Go to other wheel, yeah, 100%. Now I thought you were about to pitch the Choose Your Own Adventure vinyls, which that's, I'm not on board for that. This is fine. I'm fine with one vinyl where you needle drop.

I feel like the Choose Your Own Adventure pitch kind of morphed into this by the end. You guys steered me away from the Choose Your Own Adventure thing and you were right. I think this is a better version. Yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine with this idea. If we want one vinyl of for an hour, we just record things that we just record responses.

To be fair, these are not Andrew's twenty thousand things. These are responses to a wheel. These would be wheel items. Next question comes from William McLaughlin. How difficult is it to manage production slash release cycles given the spontaneous nature of the group? I.E. a person has a good idea, an episode or other video. What's the scheduling like for getting that content created

and released before everyone forgets? I think that's a thing we're working on. It took us three months to fucking record this episode of Sausage Talk. Yeah, it's a work of progress. So I started pushing it in early November. It shifts if there's a thing that you really want to push off the ground. Like for me, the advent calendar was something I really wanted us to do. And so all of my focus was on that.

So the premise of like trying to get anything else was just not viable. And it'll be interesting to see with you guys if there are things like that with the advent calendar for you, where you kind of use like a bigger thing, just trying to push it to get made. I feel like every once in a while, there's an idea that's just so good. Everybody is equally invested in it on board, and then it just gets pushed to the top and just gets made as quickly as possible. Next question comes from Taylor Bolton.

Would love to know whether you find it easier to market regulation with the name change, like more search hits, viewers, et cetera. Now that you're not stuck behind the SEO minefield, that was nice. I feel like just not having asterisks is a huge improvement when it comes to search. Just being able to say the show name is nice. Just casually. I've had a lot of people come up to me, not maybe a lot, but I've had a few people come up to me in person and thank me for changing it, or thank us for changing it to a name that they can tell their family about. Yeah, I've appreciated it.

Like, yeah. It's been nice. What do you think, Eric? I mean, we don't really do any marketing. We definitely don't. So like in terms of like what the marketing is, it's like there's not much of a difference, but it's easier to sell ads. It's easier to get to work with other companies that are like they're more apt to look at our numbers and then they see the name and they don't think twice about it. Where before you look at the numbers, you see the name and you go, we can't advertise on that. And so it's a move on from there. But I think it's a way better, I think Regulation Podcast is a way better name than F***face ever was.

I also liked that we, we verbatized it. So it's, it still lives on when we F***face ourselves. Yes, yeah. Yeah, I think there's still nuggets of that stuff. I just think we were at a company that never named anything well. So the first thing we did was pick a good name for something and then, you know, shot into the stratosphere.

So I feel good about it. Tying into sort of the next question from Stockholm Childkicker, were there any other potential names going around during the rebrand? Was calling it Andrew ever on the table again? I don't think it was ever really on the table to begin with. And I don't I don't think we had any. When you came up, you came up with this podcast name. I did years before we used it.

You pitched to us. And in that moment, we all fell in love with it. So we always knew that was going to eventually be the name of the podcast. Yeah. I mean, it's nice that that is such a clean experience, but it would have been just if there were like sessions of us trying to pitch name, that would have been so chaotic. I would have loved to have known what would have come out of that. I wish we had a more compelling answer than like we had an alternative and we just went with that. We were all happy with it.

But that is what happened. Next question by Nina Hart, what has been your biggest reward and challenge running your own company versus operating under a parent company? I don't know how to quantify challenge. It's endless challenge. Paying ourselves. Yeah. I think the most rewarding thing has been seeing

the community grow and how much support we have on a one-to-one basis where you don't, I don't think we saw that previously. I think that's the most rewarding thing to me is seeing the people come out of the woodworks and kind of support us and stick with us as we kind of keep going. That's been really fantastic.

Cause you know, you just sort of put it out there and you have no idea. Speaking for this and for 100% eat, people go like, I love that podcast. And you go, right, but how much? Because we're about to find out. And I think we've seen a lot. I think it's more than seeing it, right?

It's the feeling it, right? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, you definitely feel it. The challenge is there's no safety net. I mean, we've talked about that a lot, but the challenge is like, if we don't do it, it doesn't get done. And if you burn out, that's too bad.

Like that is, we're running it like a sprint and that it's really hard to do that. You have to be really mindful. I didn't take any time off really until this trip to Mexico since we launched. And that's eight or nine months of running. You're running a marathon and a sprint. And it's like, I have to be way more mindful of that

for myself of having to, I wanna put everything that I have into this, but if I give everything that I have, then I don't have anything left to give later. And that's been a really hard thing where I can't, there's nothing to, sometimes there's just like nothing to delegate to somebody when there's a bigger idea or when there's something we need to do. It's hard to, it's hard to get it done sometimes or when you have, when it's the fifth most important thing on your list, but other people it's number one

or number two. I think that's the hardest thing. That's very well said. I just also remembered another thing that I loved since we started this company from the previous question. I loved how such a dull recording as the kicker, repicker turned into something so off the rails and how we were all just all in on it. Like think about that. After we've sold a thousand vinyls of the wheel, look back and you'll be like,

Andrew threw out a rule change in part two of a video that turned into a record that people buy potentially down there. Assuming that, you know, like that's fucking crazy. It was just a rule change. It goes into the joy of like people being willing to just do stuff. We're on the surface. It makes sense to do like a midseason revisit and just sort of like recap.

And then it became a thing of like, well, we need to solve this problem. Some of us don't have kickers at this point, what's the mechanism behind it? And I went into that going like, I don't really know. I was messaging Eric being like, what? Like, what makes sense? Like, how will this even work? And then I told you that we shouldn't do the thing that you wanted to do. And you went, yeah. And then did it.

I don't remember that conversation going that way. But the point being that that was a thing that I even went into going like, I don't really know how this is going to work. We're just going to figure it out. We're going to throw things out there. We'll see what happens. And it turned chaotic in an unbelievably fun way. I do think genuinely the most challenging thing, at least on my end, is the fact that we started a company with three Americans, a Brit, and a Canadian,

and it's very hard to pay ourselves, and it's very hard to get healthcare, and all of this fucking annoying behind the scenes grown up shit is just constantly, it's like always in a state of almost done. And when you get past a step, there's another thing you have to do, or there's another series of forms that you have to fill out by the end of the year step, there's another thing you have to do, or there's another series of forms

that you have to fill out by the end of the year, or there's another, we have, I feel like we're, we must be embezzling money 80s style through the Cayman Islands. We have so many fucking companies we've had to create just so that we can all be in a business together. It's like, it's all very above the board and legal, we're not, but it's just like,

it is so complicated to run the behind the scenes of running something as simple as five sub intelligent people talking for an hour and five minutes about movies and food. Yeah, you know. Absolutely. Eric posted a screenshot. Do you think a mechanic should exist in the gigabit repicker that allows someone to steal a player from someone else? I feel like if we do it again, we should add a wrinkle like that. Right. That was you very politely saying no.

Correct. Yeah. I didn't interpret it that way at the time. Great. That was you were saying for the next. Right. Yes. Correct. Re-pick. Uh huh. Yes. Oh. Do we know who won that by the way? I need to go in and check because I think there's an issue with the site. Somebody we have a member of an art community that has like updated with the movie league and the kicker stuff, and they do such an amazing job.

I need to confirm because that was such a chaotic recording. I think I have seven kickers on the site, and I don't know if that's on purpose where everyone else is six. Like I just I've been meaning to revisit that and then lock in Okay, I mean if we want to have a look at it right now Me and Andrew are tied. There's no tie 749 and 749 yeah, but Andrew has an extra character. Yeah, I think I've got an extra kicker Yeah, so you know just saying and do we know that we do we know that Eric's count is even correct

We should probably go look into that What count? My count of what this isn't my count I didn't make this website mine was wrong for one week and the guy was like Oh, I had the aggregate thing was wrong and he had to change it and fix it. Why'd you say Eric's count? What did Eric do? We don't know I was the one who was counting the points No, no, I was like one who was counting the points. No, no.

We don't know that your kicks are correct is all I'm saying. Well, and also to be fair, Eric did botch a lot of the movie draft with his not assigning and not taking away points and the total pot was wrong. I don't remember that, but we'll get to the bottom. Well, I would have won the movie draft or something. Yeah, that's right. I'm pretty sure it would have come in first. I did, man.

Well, I would have won the movie draft or something. Yeah, that's right. I'm pretty sure it would have come in first. I did, man. Yeah. But that's another thing I like about how we're always on board to just take the video in whatever direction it goes. And then we basically just hand it off to the audience and members of the community build these websites.

Oh, that's so cool. I even saw someone made a slider that they can slide from one to 10 about how the episode is going and then it graphs it. Well, like, so funny. That's amazing. Oh, I'll say just like one other quick thing about a joy of, you know, it just being us as a small company, there is a meeting. And I just put this together relatively recently as, you know, now thinking about the past, I took a meeting and it made no sense

for like why we had to have this meeting and the information that came from it. Like it just, it had no value, but at the time, you know, like you're just moving and it's like whatever that happened. And then realizing now that that had to take place for somebody to show a boss that they did X thing. Like the fact that there's all this procedure

and time wasted around just having to establish that work was done as opposed to what could have just been like a two minute we're doing this right. Yes. Just not having to deal with that. No time waste. And that way is so nice. So rewarding. Yeah. No, this could have been an emails in our company yes

The last question from Misa soup 247 does Andrew still have his get out of Greg free card Boy, do I and man am I thinking about using it on the podcast that we recorded yesterday? Because I have a feeling that I might need to. So how does it work? You would apply it next episode and say it was for the previous episode? Well, that's the thing. I will have already taken all of the abuse by the time it applies. I don't know if it counts.

What if you play it on our socials right before the episode comes out? Maybe we'll see. Yeah, I'm thinking about it. I'm considering what if we what if we just you just record a little intro that's right before the podcast that Nick can spat, you know, stick on the front of it. It's just like you saying, hey, this is Andrew. I just want to let you guys know before you listen to this. Not that there's a reason to. But just, you know, I just felt like using you guys know before you listen to this, not that there's a reason to, but just, you know,

I just felt like using my get out of Greg Free card this week. Enjoy. I'm going to put a little bit more thought into it, but I do feel it should work like money in the bank and wrestling, where you can just run and deposit it whenever you want to, essentially. Like, that's how in my head I need to get out of Greg Freecard. When did you actually get it? What was it for?

I don't remember, but it's been years and I've been so scared to ever use it because I don't trust myself ultimately. Is it just you that has to get out of Greg Freecard? Yeah, I don't remember how I got it, but I think I'm the only one that has. Interesting. I was something I did. I think there are some. Oh, you know what? I remember now it was for getting the tuxedo. I was the I did. I think there are some. Oh, you know what?

I remember now it was forgetting the tuxedo. I was the only one that went to that. I took care of it as below. You're right. And I that's how I earned it. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get call.

We'll see if it gets played. People listening to this will know there's no lead in to the next episode. And those are my questions. I don't know if you guys have anything else you want to wrap up on. I feel like we've covered quite a bit, but I don't have every one's itinerary in front of me. So I don't know anything else you guys want to expand on in the sausage.

I think we wanted to pitch those two ideas to you. Yes. If you don't mind, please. I want to say we came up with like five new ideas in Mexico, one of which definitely can't be discussed right now Okay, then the one I pitched yesterday in podcast which was the birth year movie draft Mm-hmm in addition to that we came up with an idea for a predictions draft called are we? Nostradamus where we do we go through and we do it snake draft style as we do. Each person gets to pick a prediction of something they think is going to happen

in the world in twenty twenty five. Then in January of twenty twenty six, we reconvene and do a video where we say, were we Nostradamus? And then we find out how many of our predictions come true. And it could be anything, you know, like, OK, I think I think Gavin or Nick said, John Mulaney dies. Oh, my God. Yeah, like, yeah. But it could also be like I said, a cruise ship crashes. Like it could be. But it could be a good thing to love this.

Maybe somebody undies and then everybody's happy. But yeah, we just come up with our predictions or a few extras because we may overlap. And then we we put it up with our predictions or a few extras, because we may overlap, and then we put it out in the universe and we see how prescient we are. I think that's a lot of fun. Yeah, I can't wait to film that. If anyone gets any right, I mean, it'd be insane.

Oh, it's crazy, isn't it? Like, imagine that we do pick John Mulaney dies and then John Mulaney dies. Like, that's crazy. That would be crazy. If we get anything right, we get to release a shirt that said, yep, we're Nostradamus. And who's the shirt?

We'll buy it. We'll buy it. Okay. I think Jeff just really wants the shirt that says, yep, I'm Nostradamus. What if the winner, if you get something right, you get a Greg card? Oh, I like that. Oh, that's interesting. That's a good idea. Maybe there could be a whole structure kind of like, did you guys ever watch the Bozo the Clown show when you were a kid?

Yes. Well, Eric's going to know this then. I actually did a things to do in Saints Row the third based off of it. But you they would put a bunch of buckets out in a row, one to five, and there was a prize in each bucket. And then a kid would get a ping pong ball. And if he could throw it in the first one, then he got a shot at the second. And then if he got to the third, he had a shot at the third.

So maybe there's like, if you get one prediction correct, you get a get out of Greg free card. And if you get two, there's like an even better gift or reward and three and four and five. like five would be insane or four I think would be max maybe if you get two you get the great card but if you get one you just get like a shot in the dock of a Greg you have an opportunity to roll a sheer shot in the dark. I was a 20, 25% chance. So I am so on board with all of us having a shot in the great dark for any. Oh, and it has to be used like survivor where you get one and you have to pull it and one

in seven. And if you're right, then you just you've won the argument. Yeah. And everyone has to back down then you just you've won the argument. Yeah, and everyone has to back down. Yeah, everyone has to just put their weapons down. Even the whole community has to be like, yeah, he was right. Everybody has. Yeah, exactly. That's so funny. Oh, that would be so infuriating for somebody.

I'm just the. Oh, look, they use it efficiently. Oh, that would be so frustrating potentially. It's like those fucking state farm commercials. I think they're state farm where the couple is arguing and then one of them pulls out a challenge flag and throws it down and then something they bring out of the video unit and they get to watch the conversation that just happened to see if the husband said the thing or not.

Mm hmm. Oh, it's fucking great. What I'm really excited about with are we know Stradamus is we're at the time of year where very specific podcasts do their predictions going into the next year and recap what they made before. Like I listen to a boxing podcast and I just listen to an episode of this. That is such a specific field. And I would say 80 percent of their predictions were wrong. So the premise of it just being any topic, any anything is going to be so insane.

That's what was so funny to me when Jeff was pitching it, because I was thinking like, oh, you know, there could be like a war or like a natural disaster or like a maybe volcano goes off. And then he was like, what if a cruise ship crashed? Anything specific. I like it. I was I was looking at cruise ships on the horizon at night from our balcony. You could see the like just the lit up cruise ships in the distance and I was thinking man, this thing's got to crash sometime, right? Hard to turn one of those around on a dime, you know. Oh for sure. And what was the other idea? Oh the other ideas? Eric will probably have to jump in to help but uh week week

It's a couple of ideas that kind of morphed into one. We're gonna call this the wheel of decades Okay, and we create a wheel and on the wheel the options are 70s 80s 90s 2000s, 2010s. And then we spin the wheel and whatever decade we land on, let's say we land on the 80s, we all then do our own research. We look, we Google, and we find all of the TV shows

from the 80s that sound interesting that we've never seen. It's important that you've never seen it. And then we compile a list and we look at the group together and then we find the show that none of us have ever seen, like the $6 million man, nobody ever watched it. Or maybe, I think the idea Eric used was Renegade, right? The Lawrence Olamis show. Or Pacific Blue, which is a show I'd never heard of

that then he showed me. It's like cops on fucking scooters or something. It's like Baywatch on bikes. Yeah, it's like Baywatch on bikes. And then we identify and then we pick the show, right? And then we become the biggest fans in the world of that show and we all get together and we watch it together.

We watch an entire season together and then we record a like watch along style content of it. And then we release it once a along style content of it and then we release it once a week or whatever for the audience and then they can go watch it along with us essentially and it's just like us consuming an entire run of a show that none of us have ever seen before and we get to experience it all together for the first time. I love it. And we do just great watch along content.

I think that's so much fun. The thing that I really like is us spinning the wheel. And then at the same time, like everyone independently looking up like shows from that decade. But we are all still recording together. So then we're just putting them onto a sheet or whatever. And then we're kind of like whittling down. Yeah. Like as we go like, oh yeah, this or that, we should listen to this or we should watch that or whatever it is.

It's great, I think that would be great Patreon stuff, like putting that on Patreon, like these watch alongs or whatever, so everyone can watch with us if they want to, I think it'd be a lot of fun. And then it has a beginning and an end, you know it's a self-contained thing, it makes sense for it to end

because it's an eight episode season or a 19 episode season or whatever. So it's an additive thing that we throw up. But because it begins with an end in sight, I don't think people would be upset when it's over. You know, it was just an extra thing that we got. And then we can always do another one down the road or we like it enough. We can go on to season two or we can spin the wheel again, you know,

and it just becomes a way for us to hang out in the evening and watch something together in a fun way and make the kind of content that we love to make. Because we all love to do the watch along stuff or the commentary stuff on movies and also in a structured way that is something we can give to the audience. Completely agree. Yeah, I think that's so much fun. I'd love to do that. Gavin, what do you think of the Wheel of Decades? Love it. I mean, it sounds like we're gonna do it. I said yeah! All right, those I think those are the only things we wanted to pitch. Yeah! I'm excited.

What a fun sausage talk. That's how some of the sausage was made. Wow! Look at that. I'm good, thanks. You can nom nom it, I guess. Nick, you wanna take us out on the nom nom? Do you think if a sausage was long enough, could I... Nick, Nick, you want to take us out on the nom nom? Do you think if a sausage was long enough, could I, if Eric chugged ketchup, right?

And then I took a really long dog, put it all the way down to the stomach. Could I dip it in ketchup and pull it back out? In Eric? Yeah. Yeah. Why was that important to specify Nick that it was in me? Well, you're shorter than us. Oh yeah. It's the shortest distance to travel. Yeah.

What if I was mostly back like Andrew though? What if one person was ketchup and the other was busted? And then you're eating this? You got mad when I showed the cake that was kind of wet. Yeah, why did you turn into Gigi Allen all of a sudden? I don't know. Good question. Well, thanks for listening to Sausage Talk.

This is, I think this has been insightful. This was a good one. I thought that there was a lot here, a lot going on, a lot to discuss. If we missed anything, become a Falcon and ask a question and then we can cover it on the next one, I guess. Guys, anything that we want to leave everyone with as we kind of like wrap this up. Thank you so much for supporting us and allowing us to continue to do this. Thank you. I like your Q& allowing us to continue to do this.

Thank you. I like your Q&A idea as well. I think that should be the next one. Though the what Andrew was saying, do it like a dedicated Q&A. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. That's a great idea. Answering the questions is a lot of fun. And the questions are always super interesting. And they think to ask things we don't think to talk about naturally, which I appreciate. That's awesome.

So we should definitely do that. Sounds like a plan. But until then, thank you so much for listening. I missed your day. But I.