F**kface - Regulation Takes // Regulation Supplemental
Episode Date: August 10, 2025Get your opinions ready and prepare for some hot takes from Andrew, Eric, Nick, and Gavin. In regulation takes, we throw out some half formed opinions that we feel strongly about and see how they land.... Everyone gets two and we imagine the audience will have a lot to say about them. What are your takes on our takes? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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                                        Hello and welcome to our newest supplemental concept idea regulation takes.
                                         
                                        I am hosting this.
                                         
                                        I can't believe it.
                                         
                                        I am joined alongside Eric, Gavin, and Nick.
                                         
                                        I'm excited to hear some takes.
                                         
                                        Let me explain the takes format before we get going.
                                         
                                        We have all prepared takes, which are stances and which we feel passionate about.
                                         
                                        We will share our takes one at a time.
                                         
    
                                        I'm not sure how many will do this first time we're doing it.
                                         
                                        Who knows how long this is going to be?
                                         
                                        I'll have to figure that out.
                                         
                                        You'll see, I guess you'll know going into it.
                                         
                                        You'll see the timer.
                                         
                                        But we don't know.
                                         
                                        So we'll all say our takes.
                                         
                                        Then after this comes out, I will put out a poll on our Patreon, which is the regulation pod.
                                         
    
                                        And you can vote on who had the worst take.
                                         
                                        And whoever has the worst take or takes gets the idiot flag till the next episode.
                                         
                                        Dean the idiot.
                                         
                                        But it's not a draft.
                                         
                                        It's not a draft.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        I'll be honest.
                                         
                                        I was I was like 80% sure you were somehow going to.
                                         
    
                                        call a blind side and we'd be doing fucking ratty boy because this sounds like a fake
                                         
                                        idea oh this is so far from a fake idea this is like the most popular idea in any show
                                         
                                        format ever oh yeah this is a i could tell it was a real andrew idea because this is the
                                         
                                        closest we're going to get to like sports uh media well you know what i mean like this is so close
                                         
                                        hot take first take like that kind of thing that i i it read is true to me
                                         
                                        all the way.
                                         
                                        Well, until we do a March Madness bracket.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
    
                                        True.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but this is, again, not a draft.
                                         
                                        The first thing Gavin asked when he got here today is this a draft, we reassured him.
                                         
                                        No, it's not.
                                         
                                        The pool is takes.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, the pool is takes, but also there's no real pool because it's not a draft.
                                         
                                        So, Andrew, how many takes are, I mean, we'll go one at a time, but how many takes are we
                                         
    
                                        going to be giving each?
                                         
                                        Well, that's the thing.
                                         
                                        I don't know how long it'll take for us to go through everybody's takes.
                                         
                                        It'll be interesting to see.
                                         
                                        So maybe we'll do one each.
                                         
                                        Maybe we'll do two each.
                                         
                                        We will state our take.
                                         
                                        And then you can sort of defend or maybe people just agree.
                                         
    
                                        And it's the support of the take.
                                         
                                        This is a thing I largely wanted to do because I have a take that I think about all the time
                                         
                                        that I don't know how else to put it.
                                         
                                        Like, this can't be a draft.
                                         
                                        This isn't really a podcast subject.
                                         
                                        So I had to create a show around.
                                         
                                        being able to discuss this take.
                                         
                                        I have an opinion.
                                         
    
                                        I need a show for that.
                                         
                                        I have an opinion.
                                         
                                        We need a vehicle to discuss this opinion.
                                         
                                        It's an opinion I have not heard often.
                                         
                                        But how do we determine the order of delivering these takes?
                                         
                                        Well, you should go first because you built a show around your take.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I absolutely think you should go first.
                                         
                                        I think we could also go in Discord order, which is just our names in order here,
                                         
    
                                        which appears to be alphabetical.
                                         
                                        So maybe we just go that way.
                                         
                                        And we'll see how it goes.
                                         
                                        Now, you mentioned a timer.
                                         
                                        Is there a timer?
                                         
                                        No, not a timer for the take, but I just don't, maybe, like, somebody's take will take four minutes to do.
                                         
                                        Maybe somebody's will take two.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
    
                                        Like, I just wanted to make sure I didn't have to run a time.
                                         
                                        No, no, no, you don't have to.
                                         
                                        This isn't like a strict debate format or anything.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Gavin didn't even know if this was a draft or not.
                                         
                                        So I just have, you know, that's my only question.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Andrew, why don't you lead us off with your first take?
                                         
                                        my first take is
                                         
                                        something I think about all the time
                                         
                                        it's a weird thing to think about all the time
                                         
    
                                        I'll acknowledge that but it is something I think
                                         
                                        about quite frequently
                                         
                                        my first take
                                         
                                        is that Taylor Kitch deserves better
                                         
                                        Taylor Kitch
                                         
                                        has one of the worst
                                         
                                        acting careers in modern times
                                         
                                        and I don't think it's his fault
                                         
    
                                        at all I think he's pretty good
                                         
                                        I think he's a solid actor
                                         
                                        he was on Friday Night Lights
                                         
                                        which is incredibly popular
                                         
                                        and he has a run of things
                                         
                                        that just like were terrible
                                         
                                        but not terrible because it was his fault.
                                         
                                        My first example of this
                                         
    
                                        is he got to be Gambit
                                         
                                        and X-Men Origins Wolverine.
                                         
                                        He was Gambit.
                                         
                                        And he was fine as Gambit.
                                         
                                        But that movie was terrible
                                         
                                        and like nothing expanded beyond that.
                                         
                                        It was a weird thing to read
                                         
                                        about the history of it where they
                                         
    
                                        always wanted Channing Tatum
                                         
                                        but he was always busy
                                         
                                        and so they booked him because it's like he wasn't available
                                         
                                        but they gave him a three movie deal which did not happen
                                         
                                        there was only a singular cameo because nobody liked
                                         
                                        X-Men Origins Wolverine yeah a beloved character
                                         
                                        in a beloved series of films I think this is the most hated one
                                         
                                        by far oh he just happened to be in the worst Wolverine
                                         
    
                                        that they could possibly make you created an entire show
                                         
                                        for that take I'm not done I'm not done I mean
                                         
                                        establish more right right
                                         
                                        And to be fair, it will still be the same take as he continues to argue this.
                                         
                                        So the answer to your question is yes.
                                         
                                        I'm just solidifying the take.
                                         
                                        Uh-huh.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
    
                                        And so the answer to your question is yes, Gavin.
                                         
                                        We often talk about 1994, amazing Jim Carrier.
                                         
                                        One of the best years.
                                         
                                        Oh, big film.
                                         
                                        Reniac.
                                         
                                        Uh-huh.
                                         
                                        Three absolute bangers.
                                         
                                        Taylor Kitch had maybe the worst version of that where he had a 2012.
                                         
    
                                        2012 was really bad
                                         
                                        John Carter from Mars
                                         
                                        Battleship and Savages
                                         
                                        All three of those
                                         
                                        Not his fault
                                         
                                        John Carter was terrible
                                         
                                        It was just like a soulless CG
                                         
                                        It just was weird
                                         
    
                                        There's no heart to it
                                         
                                        Nobody came out of John Carter
                                         
                                        looking good
                                         
                                        Battleship
                                         
                                        Absolute disaster
                                         
                                        Just a terrible film
                                         
                                        Not his fault
                                         
                                        Savages
                                         
    
                                        An Oliver Stone movie
                                         
                                        That had like all the pieces
                                         
                                        to be good
                                         
                                        Like you'd understand
                                         
                                        from the outside
                                         
                                        wanting to be in an Oliver
                                         
                                        Stone movie is the lead.
                                         
                                        All the acting in that movie is great all around.
                                         
    
                                        Just a really dumb, bad story.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it has.
                                         
                                        Savage's has, like, Benicio del Toro and, like, Aaron Taylor Johnson and stuff.
                                         
                                        Like, like, it has, like, a bunch of people.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It is, it is a weird thing where I would argue he was the only one impacted by the failure
                                         
                                        of Savage's.
                                         
                                        A hundred percent.
                                         
    
                                        Absolutely agree.
                                         
                                        John Carter was like this also $300 million Disney movie that was terrible.
                                         
                                        It just, no.
                                         
                                        Nobody saw it. It was a huge flop. It was a summer flop for Taylor Kitch, and I feel like that completely broke the wings off of what his career trajectory could be. But he had to fade into the distance. And so he was, he went quiet for a little bit, off the grid. He went dark. He then came back. I mean, he had lone survivor, which was like, it was fine. But then he got booked on True Detective Season 2. True Detective, the biggest show.
                                         
                                        of that year.
                                         
                                        Everyone's loving it.
                                         
                                        It's a critical darling.
                                         
                                        They're running it back for season two.
                                         
    
                                        Everyone's so excited.
                                         
                                        And then everybody hated season two.
                                         
                                        It is the worst reviewed season of True Detective with a 61%.
                                         
                                        Once again, he was totally fine in it.
                                         
                                        He was good, I would say.
                                         
                                        Good performance by Taylor Kitch.
                                         
                                        Just everything he touches is the worst version of
                                         
                                        that thing, but it is in no way
                                         
    
                                        his fault. He should be
                                         
                                        in most of the action roles that
                                         
                                        John Krasinski has had in like
                                         
                                        the last five years. He would be so
                                         
                                        much better and all these
                                         
                                        sort of, I'm not saying that he's an Oscar
                                         
                                        winning actor and that he
                                         
                                        should have been in these
                                         
    
                                        epic dramas, but like any
                                         
                                        kind of generic John Krasinski
                                         
                                        action movie, I think he would have been
                                         
                                        significantly better at. Oh, I think
                                         
                                        that he's, the reason his
                                         
                                        career is what it is is because of Aaron
                                         
                                        Taylor Johnson. He, that, that role is filled by Aaron Taylor Johnson. If Aaron Taylor Johnson did not
                                         
                                        exist, this guy's working. This guy's working everything without him. It has been an interesting
                                         
    
                                        he's had to go on like Netflix type series and he's building things back up. But I just think it's,
                                         
                                        it's such a weird career where everything that he did like, I understand accepting and being like,
                                         
                                        yeah, I'm going to be in a fucking Wolverine movie. I'm going to be in this. I'm going to be the lead of a Disney
                                         
                                        epic for like 400 million, like a huge box office movie. But none of it worked. And none of it
                                         
                                        was his fault. And I just think that's incredibly fascinating. The king of good franchise like
                                         
                                        stick out stinkers. Like he's always in the most dog shit version of the actual product.
                                         
                                        Absolutely. And I just, I think it's such a fascinating career trajectory. If you gave me an
                                         
                                        infinite amount of time and 500 million different guesses on what your take was going to be,
                                         
    
                                        I still wouldn't have come up with this.
                                         
                                        No, no, absolutely.
                                         
                                        He created a show, Gavin.
                                         
                                        He created a show so he can explain this to us.
                                         
                                        I think everyone is going to have fun takes.
                                         
                                        It's just I think about Taylor Kitch's career a lot.
                                         
                                        Guy I've never heard of in a bunch of movies and shows I've never seen.
                                         
                                        It deserves better.
                                         
    
                                        You tell me you're not a big Friday Night Lights Head?
                                         
                                        Never seen it.
                                         
                                        You weren't into the Texas high school football team.
                                         
                                        drama?
                                         
                                        I guess not.
                                         
                                        I guess it never spoke to me.
                                         
                                        It was great.
                                         
                                        I'd highly recommend the show.
                                         
    
                                        There's an actor in the show that feels like he's not an actor and they just made a show
                                         
                                        around him.
                                         
                                        And he's wonderful.
                                         
                                        Highly recommend it just for his performance alone.
                                         
                                        Not Taylor Kitch, but he runs like a car dealership and he's great.
                                         
                                        Taylor Kitch also very good in the show.
                                         
                                        But that is my take.
                                         
                                        Taylor Kitch deserves so much better than he got.
                                         
    
                                        And I'm happy to see that he's getting a little bit of a resurgence.
                                         
                                        I think Taylor Kitch is exactly where he probably needs to be.
                                         
                                        I don't think that there's, I, I'm not clamoring for, dude, the other guy from the savages to be in movies.
                                         
                                        Because you didn't get to see him in those roles.
                                         
                                        That's what I'd argue.
                                         
                                        I think he could be a dynamic fun action star and we just never got that.
                                         
                                        I think that if TV was still around, this guy would be Spike TV hero of whatever show is.
                                         
                                        is on Spike TV.
                                         
    
                                        Like, this is a cable actor.
                                         
                                        That is what this guy reads to me.
                                         
                                        I mean, that's fair.
                                         
                                        I mean, that's certainly where he's found
                                         
                                        his most success.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but I think he deserves that.
                                         
                                        He was Gambit.
                                         
                                        He was Gambit for four minutes.
                                         
    
                                        Four minutes of Gambit.
                                         
                                        I guess I have seen him as Gambit.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And that's about it.
                                         
                                        And like, I feel like he's the only person
                                         
                                        from like this Deadpool, Wolverine era
                                         
                                        that we're in where they're bringing everybody back.
                                         
                                        He's never going to get brought back.
                                         
    
                                        No. Well, did they bring back the guy who was the blob?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        What about Will I Am?
                                         
                                        Will I Am wasn't in anything else.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Should your take be that Will I Am should be in more X-Men movies?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        I didn't think he was that good.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, but Taylor Kitch was?
                                         
                                        Yeah, he was fine.
                                         
                                        He was solid.
                                         
                                        I think you should edit Taylor Kitch's next reel.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I think you should reach out and say,
                                         
                                        see if Taylor Kitch has any hot takes he wants to give
                                         
                                        because I bet you could get him.
                                         
    
                                        See what I can do.
                                         
                                        You can help him get on an Australian morning show.
                                         
                                        He's nice, just promoting, he's promoting our podcast.
                                         
                                        Yeah, dude.
                                         
                                        I think if it was based on how it work with Gavin,
                                         
                                        he'd be promoting Friday night lights the show.
                                         
                                        How did it all start?
                                         
                                        How'd you get into acting?
                                         
    
                                        Oh man
                                         
                                        Well that's my take
                                         
                                        Eric
                                         
                                        What is your take if we're going in Discord order
                                         
                                        Your take was so interesting
                                         
                                        I don't find mine to be as interesting
                                         
                                        But I feel kind of dumb
                                         
                                        Yeah no no I don't
                                         
    
                                        I definitely don't feel dumb
                                         
                                        I definitely feel like
                                         
                                        I don't know we'll see how my takes
                                         
                                        Yeah I'm not sure I did this right
                                         
                                        No
                                         
                                        I'm so excited to get to Gavin's
                                         
                                        I blow through mine
                                         
                                        My take
                                         
    
                                        Is that the take of
                                         
                                        There are too many
                                         
                                        podcasts is a hack take from people who would kill to have a podcast.
                                         
                                        Ooh.
                                         
                                        You hear it all the time.
                                         
                                        There are too many podcasts.
                                         
                                        We should put tariffs on podcast equipment.
                                         
                                        It is, it's a, it's a hack take from hack people who it's, it's, it's the low hanging
                                         
    
                                        fruit, it's the easy punching bag.
                                         
                                        Do I love how many podcasts there are?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        But the more podcasts that come out,
                                         
                                        more listening hours are consumed monthly, month on month since podcasts have become a large
                                         
                                        source of entertainment.
                                         
                                        I don't think there are too many podcasts.
                                         
                                        I don't think it should discourage anyone from starting a podcast.
                                         
    
                                        I think anyone with some ideas and everything can do this, I think that it's a lot easier
                                         
                                        to have the take online of there are too many podcasts than there are to try it.
                                         
                                        yourself and see if you're successful, that's where that take comes from. And if you were to give
                                         
                                        those people microphones, they couldn't fucking wait to make three episodes and abandon it.
                                         
                                        That is the true way of podcasts is that. I think just because they are so popular and trending
                                         
                                        in such a big way, it's just an easy thing to say, but nobody really truly believes it by and
                                         
                                        large. That's my take. Yeah.
                                         
                                        How many podcasts do you work on?
                                         
    
                                        I have right now.
                                         
                                        Well, Good Morning, Gus is actually coming out right now.
                                         
                                        So there's one, 100% E, and there's this one.
                                         
                                        We also have creating character, which you can check out.
                                         
                                        I didn't say promote them on.
                                         
                                        I'm just looking for a number here.
                                         
                                        Yeah, we can say four.
                                         
                                        I think four feels good.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Interesting.
                                         
                                        I agree with the take only because, like, I think it's a weird situation in which, sure,
                                         
                                        there are too many podcasts, but like, who cares?
                                         
                                        Like, why is that problem?
                                         
                                        Yeah, and there's also too much TV and too much radio.
                                         
                                        It's all the time.
                                         
                                        Everything's on all the time.
                                         
    
                                        Yes, I think that the, there's too many podcasts thing
                                         
                                        is just an easy thing to, like, tweet out and be like, that's right.
                                         
                                        I'm above this.
                                         
                                        And it's like, okay.
                                         
                                        I will say there are a lot of the same guy making the same podcast.
                                         
                                        There are.
                                         
                                        There are.
                                         
                                        There's also a lot of YouTube channels.
                                         
    
                                        And I think having the take in 2025 that there's too many YouTube channels is the same thing.
                                         
                                        as there are too many podcasts, but that'll be in the next few years when the next sort of wave of whatever entertainment comes out.
                                         
                                        I don't think it's necessarily so groundbreaking or really correct that there are too many podcasts.
                                         
                                        I think that shouldn't discourage anyone from picking up a mic and giving it a try.
                                         
                                        That doesn't mean you're absolved from consequences of things.
                                         
                                        It just means that I don't think that there are too many.
                                         
                                        I think there's a lot more stories to be told out there.
                                         
                                        that people could be doing or saying.
                                         
    
                                        I think three guys who just went to a bar and coming home
                                         
                                        and then they don't have anything to say,
                                         
                                        but then get on a mic,
                                         
                                        that's what people think a podcast is,
                                         
                                        but that's not necessarily what you get from a lot of this stuff.
                                         
                                        So that's my take.
                                         
                                        There are not actually too many podcasts.
                                         
                                        I think it's also a thing of like what you expect
                                         
    
                                        to get out of the podcast that you're making.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like if you're,
                                         
                                        let's say maybe there's a philosophical thing of like,
                                         
                                        I'm going to get into podcasting and make a ton of money.
                                         
                                        That is not an easy or like a realistic thing to expect.
                                         
                                        There are so many podcasts, like just the, I mean, that is like a, from a budgetary
                                         
                                        or like a marketing standpoint of ads and all that, like, sure.
                                         
    
                                        But if you're just making a podcast because you want to do it and you think it would
                                         
                                        be fun, like, it seems absurd to be like, no, no, no, no, too many.
                                         
                                        You can't do it.
                                         
                                        Not allowed.
                                         
                                        That's how I feel about it.
                                         
                                        That's my take.
                                         
                                        I do respect the person that's making it also having.
                                         
                                        that take, though, because I feel that way all the time of, like, making you show and then being
                                         
    
                                        like, why the fuck am I doing this? I got nothing of interest to say. I don't, this,
                                         
                                        more qualified people should be making these things. It is wild that I can just do this, but.
                                         
                                        Yeah. But anyone can. And I think that's what's, I think that's what's cool about it is that
                                         
                                        anyone can. It really is. It is very, it is very, like, 2009 YouTube. Yes. To go out there and
                                         
                                        just do it. Because without, without podcasts, how would we know about Jackson?
                                         
                                        exotic bird. That's such a good point. The world would know. You all would just have to hoard that
                                         
                                        knowledge. Yeah. Yeah, we would have to, just like the 20 people at that party would know about
                                         
                                        Jack's exotic bird and not so, so, so many more. And I need as many people as possible to know
                                         
    
                                        about Jack's exotic bird. And that's the magic of podcast. It really is. I'm so excited for when we
                                         
                                        record our next episode. I watched a movie and it opened up a whole new thing of Lord for me that I'm
                                         
                                        very excited to share it's fun it's fun it's sort of a joy of podcasting is you will do something
                                         
                                        for yourself and then it will create an opportunity to discuss something in a way you never
                                         
                                        anticipated yeah yeah there you go well um Gavin those are our first two takes what about you
                                         
                                        what takes do you have if you manage to fit it in your asshole you should be allowed to smuggle it
                                         
                                        okay so interesting very interesting but you've got to the trouble of putting it in your anus
                                         
                                        Uh-huh.
                                         
    
                                        It should just be anything goes in the atus.
                                         
                                        Interesting.
                                         
                                        Okay, so if I'm bringing in a bunch of drugs and they catch me, let's say,
                                         
                                        but it's in my anus, I'm no longer going to be penalized for attempting to smuggle drugs.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, you put it in your own anus.
                                         
                                        You went through the trouble of that.
                                         
                                        They're yours.
                                         
                                        Is there a consideration, though, that putting something in an anus is maybe too easy to it be an immunity spot?
                                         
    
                                        it's sort of like a bag
                                         
                                        I mean you got a lot of runway there
                                         
                                        you can loob it up like it depends on
                                         
                                        I guess what I'll say to that is
                                         
                                        that's big talk from someone who's not doing it
                                         
                                        I guess
                                         
                                        I don't know I just I feel like
                                         
                                        here's the thing and I this is going
                                         
    
                                        in a direction that I didn't anticipate going
                                         
                                        I've had some pretty massive shits
                                         
                                        which give me a concept of what's possible in there
                                         
                                        I've never, I'm not putting things in, I'm pushing stuff out.
                                         
                                        I just don't agree, I just don't agree.
                                         
                                        And I feel like, no, I feel like it doesn't deserve complete immunity.
                                         
                                        You feel like you, you would have an advantage because you could smuggle a much bigger item than me?
                                         
                                        I don't think it's like, I'm not bragging or anything.
                                         
    
                                        I'm not saying I have an abnormal, like, anus stretchability.
                                         
                                        I'm not like fantastic four, uh, annally.
                                         
                                        Uh, but I do think that it might be.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        It feels like it could be too, I don't know.
                                         
                                        It's an interesting take.
                                         
                                        What were you thinking of smuggling?
                                         
                                        Uh, I just, there's a lot of people getting their anuses looked at by other people,
                                         
    
                                        isn't it?
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        Getting stuff taken from their own anus.
                                         
                                        I just feel like that should be a safe space for people.
                                         
                                        You can't, you can't smuggle a lot.
                                         
                                        It's not like you could smuggle a boatload of heroin, just enough for you.
                                         
                                        I think you'd be surprised how much hair.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I think it would probably be quite of it.
                                         
    
                                        I think it would be a lot.
                                         
                                        I think it would be like a lot more than you think it would be in that case.
                                         
                                        Let's say then that it's only for the stuff that went up.
                                         
                                        It's not for the stuff you swallowed.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        I didn't even think about what you're saying, but like I assume that was a rule.
                                         
                                        I assume it has to be the entry point of anal as opposed to swallowing.
                                         
                                        Yeah, because you can swallow a lot more than you can put up.
                                         
    
                                        At that point, your take would just be anything inside of you as fair game.
                                         
                                        What are you...
                                         
                                        I'm confused.
                                         
                                        Confused about what could be swallowed that you would smuggle.
                                         
                                        Heroin.
                                         
                                        Well, no, because I think your stomach would definitely break that down and you would die.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you don't swallow the raw heroin.
                                         
                                        You would put it in a Johnny, wouldn't you?
                                         
    
                                        Right, but even still, you don't think, like, the risk of swallow.
                                         
                                        I just don't think it would pass through you.
                                         
                                        That was a movie thing.
                                         
                                        Of course it would.
                                         
                                        We're like, I think there was a thing where, like, I've definitely seen a thing where
                                         
                                        someone swallowed a bunch of heroin and one of the bags burst.
                                         
                                        That, yeah, that's a lot of it's talking about is that.
                                         
                                        And like, I just feel like,
                                         
    
                                        The risk of swallowing it and it bursting his way is so much higher than just sticking it up.
                                         
                                        Because I agree.
                                         
                                        I think if you swallow it, no fair game.
                                         
                                        But if you put it up, fair game.
                                         
                                        I wouldn't be using it for drugs, though.
                                         
                                        I'd be using it just to avoid, like, importing something.
                                         
                                        Like what?
                                         
                                        Like what?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Like it wasn't like a small but high value item.
                                         
                                        I don't know, man.
                                         
                                        Like if I had a fancy ring or something, I'd put it in my ass.
                                         
                                        And then I wouldn't have.
                                         
                                        Yeah, like, say I went to a place.
                                         
                                        where the ring was cheaper to buy
                                         
    
                                        I'd buy it
                                         
                                        pop it in my ass
                                         
                                        and travel back with it
                                         
                                        couldn't you just wear it
                                         
                                        that's a bad example
                                         
                                        are you just
                                         
                                        are you just trying
                                         
                                        what are you talking about
                                         
    
                                        what are what
                                         
                                        Christopher Walken did it
                                         
                                        yeah Christopher Walken did do it
                                         
                                        you put a watch in his ass
                                         
                                        yeah in Pulp Fiction
                                         
                                        oh
                                         
                                        the whole monologue
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
    
                                        what about this
                                         
                                        what if
                                         
                                        okay
                                         
                                        So let's say you smuggle something legally through your ass.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Then you pop it out of your ass and commit a crime with it.
                                         
                                        Is that crime also legal?
                                         
                                        No, no, no.
                                         
    
                                        It's not like a golden bullet.
                                         
                                        It's not a golden bullet situation.
                                         
                                        It's just, you know, what made me think of it was, you know, in Left for Dead,
                                         
                                        you got like the safe houses where zombies just can't affect you.
                                         
                                        It's your moment to chill.
                                         
                                        It's your safe space.
                                         
                                        You're guaranteed that nothing bad's going to happen until you open the door.
                                         
                                        I just want a real life safe space.
                                         
    
                                        and what better space
                                         
                                        than my natural
                                         
                                        god-given pocket.
                                         
                                        But I keep wondering
                                         
                                        like what do you
                                         
                                        like what do you mean
                                         
                                        about having stuff up that
                                         
                                        like what is your example of stuff?
                                         
    
                                        Lump of gold.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        But why is,
                                         
                                        but why do you have to do that
                                         
                                        I guess is my question.
                                         
                                        Like,
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I just wanted a place
                                         
    
                                        that no one would ever look.
                                         
                                        But they do look.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's my point.
                                         
                                        They shouldn't.
                                         
                                        Do they have to manually
                                         
                                        look still, I feel like we should be at a point
                                         
                                        with technology that they can just tell if you have
                                         
                                        something in your ass or not. I like the idea
                                         
    
                                        of getting put in the X-ray and they can
                                         
                                        see the watch in there and they're like,
                                         
                                        oh, you little rascal, you put it in your ass, go on,
                                         
                                        get out of here you. Yep.
                                         
                                        Yeah, with their watch.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        Now, okay, let's
                                         
                                        just expand on this for you personally.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, let's say that this was a socially
                                         
                                        acceptable thing. What do you think you would just carry
                                         
                                        in it whenever you went out? Would it be something you
                                         
                                        regularly used? Um,
                                         
                                        I'm trying to think.
                                         
                                        Nothing, I've never, like,
                                         
                                        I've just always been scared of moving stuff
                                         
                                        between countries that I own.
                                         
    
                                        Because I'm like, oh, they're going to, like,
                                         
                                        think I've bought that and I'm illegally importing it.
                                         
                                        And I just want the security of my ass.
                                         
                                        But I can't, or I also couldn't fit like an Xbox in my ass and stuff.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that would be a problem.
                                         
                                        That would have to be several flights and piece by piece.
                                         
                                        I like this take because it's truly insane.
                                         
                                        And I keep asking for examples,
                                         
    
                                        and I don't feel like I'm getting any,
                                         
                                        so I'm really on board for this.
                                         
                                        I think this is great.
                                         
                                        I can't think of a single item that I would actually use this on.
                                         
                                        I just think people who put stuff up their ass to go through passport checks and stuff,
                                         
                                        they've gone through a lot.
                                         
                                        They've got a lot of effort involved.
                                         
                                        It just, it feels like the worst surprise you could have.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like if we went out on a picnic and I was like, oh man, I forgot, I forgot to bring dessert.
                                         
                                        And you're like, don't worry, I got some cookies right here.
                                         
                                        Just give me a second.
                                         
                                        Why would he do that with cookies?
                                         
                                        I was just thinking like a bag of cookies, like a mini bag?
                                         
                                        Right, right.
                                         
                                        Why would he do that with cookies?
                                         
    
                                        Why is he storing anything in his anus?
                                         
                                        Because it seems like it's illegal to get a buy.
                                         
                                        For getting this from country to country.
                                         
                                        He started arguing.
                                         
                                        You're talking about using it, but he's saying a safe place where people won't go.
                                         
                                        That makes sense for maybe potentially illegal activities.
                                         
                                        What you're saying is we go on a picnic and he pulls Oreos out of his ass.
                                         
                                        He did mention that he just wants to use his God-given pouch or whatever.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know what the warning was, but...
                                         
                                        I don't know what he said, but it was something about he wanted to use his anal pouch.
                                         
                                        So at the point in which he just wants to use it, then I think you have to, like, it becomes a day-to-day thing for him.
                                         
                                        Does it?
                                         
                                        I think so.
                                         
                                        I think so.
                                         
                                        Like it becomes a day-to-day thing to you?
                                         
                                        No, I don't need to use it every day.
                                         
    
                                        I'd hardly ever use it.
                                         
                                        This feels like a really weird thing to fight for then.
                                         
                                        if it's something you don't want to really...
                                         
                                        Okay, okay.
                                         
                                        What about this?
                                         
                                        What about this, right?
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Sometimes I have trouble sleeping.
                                         
    
                                        Uh-huh.
                                         
                                        Get some of those melatonin gummies, right?
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        But I don't think you're allowed to bring those to England.
                                         
                                        So whenever I come to England, I'm all like insomnia and stuff.
                                         
                                        If I just pulled a week's worth of gummies out of my ass, fine.
                                         
                                        I also don't know if they're checking for those.
                                         
    
                                        I would have no idea if they'd actually come to escape that.
                                         
                                        Now that, that's the world I want.
                                         
                                        to live in is that you're smuggling things
                                         
                                        atally that you don't have to, but just
                                         
                                        the Zoom aren't allowed. I like that
                                         
                                        reality a lot.
                                         
                                        Can I bring melatonin from the
                                         
                                        U.S. to the U.K.? Not finding
                                         
    
                                        a clear answer. First comment.
                                         
                                        It's not illegal to bring in.
                                         
                                        It's just illegal for someone to sell
                                         
                                        to you in the UK without a prescription.
                                         
                                        Second comment. Yes, you
                                         
                                        can bring it.
                                         
                                        Third comment. You can order
                                         
                                        melatonin over the internet
                                         
    
                                        into the U.S.
                                         
                                        I bring a tub home every time I go.
                                         
                                        Now imagine how embarrassing it is if he's huddled over a toilet
                                         
                                        while reading this trying to get his mouth-coded.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Here's the thing.
                                         
                                        I think I like your take.
                                         
                                        I don't think I like any of your uses for the take.
                                         
    
                                        I think that's the thing.
                                         
                                        I like the idea of my take,
                                         
                                        but not only do I not know what I put in my ass,
                                         
                                        I've never experienced putting anything in my ass,
                                         
                                        apart from the occasional woman's finger.
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        You've never had like a, what's the word I'm looking for?
                                         
                                        They, they put the tube in your ass.
                                         
    
                                        A medical procedure.
                                         
                                        Like a, colonoscopy?
                                         
                                        Like a, thank you.
                                         
                                        You never had one of those or like an enema?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        No, no, no, just a finger.
                                         
                                        Just a, just a surprising finger.
                                         
                                        I'm going to be thinking about your take all day again.
                                         
    
                                        It's all I'm going to be thinking about for the rest of this day.
                                         
                                        Look, I told you I thought I've done this wrong.
                                         
                                        So I don't know what you were doing right.
                                         
                                        I don't think you did it wrong.
                                         
                                        No, I don't think I did it wrong at all.
                                         
                                        I really don't think you did it wrong.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        I don't think I've ever heard Nick so confused in the background.
                                         
    
                                        It's very exciting.
                                         
                                        I'm just, I'm thrilled.
                                         
                                        I'm thrilled about this.
                                         
                                        So great.
                                         
                                        But that's Gavin's take.
                                         
                                        That's pretty exciting.
                                         
                                        Nick, we have your very.
                                         
                                        first take.
                                         
    
                                        I feel...
                                         
                                        Well, what an act to follow.
                                         
                                        I feel that I'm going to take some heat for this.
                                         
                                        In fact, I know I'm going to take heat for this
                                         
                                        because I believe I am very much in the minority on this.
                                         
                                        I would like to say that
                                         
                                        the inverted control scheme is the correct
                                         
                                        control scheme.
                                         
    
                                        You're in a year.
                                         
                                        I think we talked about this.
                                         
                                        You're nuts.
                                         
                                        Like, I think Gavin, like, made a comment about something we played
                                         
                                        recently and saw that you did like inverted controls and thought you were crazy.
                                         
                                        So does that mean, Nick, that when you get in a vehicle, like a plane in a video game
                                         
                                        or a banshee or something, are you now not inverted or you inverted on both?
                                         
                                        Inverted on both?
                                         
    
                                        It makes no sense.
                                         
                                        What do you mean?
                                         
                                        I mean, think about how your head moves.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I move my head.
                                         
                                        It's moved by my neck up and down.
                                         
                                        It's not flown like a plane.
                                         
                                        No one's steering my head with a stick through the back of my head.
                                         
                                        But when you tilt your head to look up, you're tilting your head backward, which is the
                                         
    
                                        way that you're doing it on the controller.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but there's no stick coming out of the back of my head.
                                         
                                        No one's got their thumb.
                                         
                                        Okay, fine, fine, fine, Gavin, let's look at it from your perspective then.
                                         
                                        Let's talk about operating a camera.
                                         
                                        When you tilt to look up, which way do you pull the camera?
                                         
                                        If I tilt to look up, I push down on the stick because it's a stick coming out
                                         
                                        the back.
                                         
    
                                        You pull it back.
                                         
                                        But if the camera was on my head...
                                         
                                        You would look up.
                                         
                                        You're still tilting your head back.
                                         
                                        I would look up to look up.
                                         
                                        You would look up to look up.
                                         
                                        You're tilting back to look up.
                                         
                                        You're tilting forward to look down.
                                         
    
                                        You don't look back or forwards.
                                         
                                        You look up and down.
                                         
                                        So you invert up and down.
                                         
                                        Do you invert left and right?
                                         
                                        No, God, no, that's wrong.
                                         
                                        Right, but you're veering your head to the right.
                                         
                                        I don't understand what the fuck you're saying then.
                                         
                                        Okay, so Nick, I've got a camera, right.
                                         
    
                                        I want the camera to look to the right.
                                         
                                        I take the stick coming off the back of the camera
                                         
                                        and I move it in which direction?
                                         
                                        I turn the camera right.
                                         
                                        You turn the camera right by doing what?
                                         
                                        By turning it right.
                                         
                                        Yeah, by pushing the stick to the left, huh?
                                         
                                        If you invert your up and down,
                                         
    
                                        you should be inverting your left and right.
                                         
                                        That's absolutely true.
                                         
                                        Now that's a take right there.
                                         
                                        That is a take.
                                         
                                        I will say this.
                                         
                                        Tusha.
                                         
                                        But also, now I'm just going to go back to the flying one.
                                         
                                        You go left.
                                         
    
                                        You turn lefty, you go lefty.
                                         
                                        You turn righty.
                                         
                                        go righty you pull back to go up you go you push down go down wait uh or push forward go down
                                         
                                        so i'm going to stick with the flight controls inverted is correct but only on the y
                                         
                                        axis so how did you become inverted uh halo it's it's literally thanks to halo yeah but halo
                                         
                                        isn't by default inverted it's not but i remember no but listen but listen they do that whole
                                         
                                        tutorial bit at the beginning where chief comes out of cryo sleep
                                         
                                        and they have you do the control thing like look left look right look up look down and then i
                                         
    
                                        remember being like well try this up and down and i in the moment i was like i don't feel anything
                                         
                                        different so i just went with whatever the second one was and ever since then inverted is the way to be
                                         
                                        so why are you blaming halo then did you only because it gave me the option like i'm trying
                                         
                                        to understand like i get like halo playing that way but then you go to a different game and then you have to go
                                         
                                        into the settings and change it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, I mean, at that point, it was so ingrained
                                         
                                        because I played a lot of Halo that it was
                                         
                                        just everything else made me feel sick and slow.
                                         
    
                                        Did you not play like a first person shooter
                                         
                                        prior to Halo? There weren't
                                         
                                        a ton, though.
                                         
                                        There were so many, like Doom?
                                         
                                        On a controller?
                                         
                                        Quake?
                                         
                                        On a controller?
                                         
                                        GoldenEye?
                                         
    
                                        I mean, but GoldenEye was...
                                         
                                        I think GoldenEye was inverted.
                                         
                                        I mean, you didn't look up or down unless you stopped.
                                         
                                        Yeah, unless you were aiming.
                                         
                                        I guess, yeah.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        So you looked up in.
                                         
                                        I mean, unless you were going through the crosshairs.
                                         
    
                                        Most of the time, you can just shoot in that.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        So you would look up and down.
                                         
                                        I would not look up and down that much in gold.
                                         
                                        I would never look up and down.
                                         
                                        Me neither.
                                         
                                        I'm not saying that I did it.
                                         
                                        I'm saying that it was there and you could do it.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, yeah, now.
                                         
                                        What does that mean?
                                         
                                        What do you mean?
                                         
                                        So is your take that every game should be inverted by default?
                                         
                                        Yeah, and I think that people should give it a shot because it is better.
                                         
                                        It's more comfortable.
                                         
                                        Why would everyone inverted?
                                         
                                        The word inverted basically just means like backwards or flipped.
                                         
    
                                        It's like it's not the default.
                                         
                                        It says it there's no verted.
                                         
                                        There's normal.
                                         
                                        Verne.
                                         
                                        And inverted.
                                         
                                        Hey, you guys playing this inverted or verded?
                                         
                                        Oh, these controls are verded.
                                         
                                        As somebody who plays everything verted and then I swap controllers
                                         
    
                                        as someone who does it, I'm just like, like, all it does for you, Nick, surely is cause arguments from verted people.
                                         
                                        Well, yes, it does.
                                         
                                        And that's why I decided to be brave and tell my story about how he'll be in my life.
                                         
                                        Well, let me ask you.
                                         
                                        I am.
                                         
                                        All these verts coming for you.
                                         
                                        Are you going to pass down this hindrance to your child?
                                         
                                        That's exactly what I wanted to know.
                                         
    
                                        Interesting question.
                                         
                                        Is he going to get a choice in this?
                                         
                                        Are you just going to start feeding them inverted controls without him knowing?
                                         
                                        You know, I wouldn't have to switch the control scheme when we handed the controller off.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he's going to learn to bird it.
                                         
                                        He's flying right.
                                         
                                        Yeah, wait, that sounded wrong.
                                         
                                        He's flying true.
                                         
    
                                        But right, but right is left or right is right?
                                         
                                        No, Y axis.
                                         
                                        This take is, I can't wait for the verts to come after you.
                                         
                                        I thought Gavin's take was going to get slammed.
                                         
                                        I definitely think Nick's take is going to get slammed.
                                         
                                        Well, Gavin emboldened me to be wrong.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I know.
                                         
                                        I played GTA with both of you.
                                         
    
                                        I've seen how it works.
                                         
                                        we should film a let's play at some point where
                                         
                                        Nick has to play verted and the rest of us all have to do inverted
                                         
                                        that is such a good idea I mean I don't want to do it
                                         
                                        but that's great it'd be terrible but I think it would be
                                         
                                        easier for the vertids to use inverted because we fly planes
                                         
                                        inverted in games oh that's an interesting idea but you don't fly
                                         
                                        it's a very interesting take yeah backwards
                                         
    
                                        yeah or normal very curious well Nick great take
                                         
                                        I think we could do one more take each
                                         
                                        I think one more take each
                                         
                                        or do you think we wrap up at like
                                         
                                        No no we got to do one more take each
                                         
                                        I'm so curious to see what else Gavin has to say
                                         
                                        That's fair do you have another take
                                         
                                        Gavin or do you only have one take?
                                         
    
                                        Oh I wrote like 10 I thought this is going to take
                                         
                                        All right then let's go back around the horn
                                         
                                        Let's start with Andrew
                                         
                                        And then let's go back around the horn
                                         
                                        My sick take
                                         
                                        We get one real animal movie a year
                                         
                                        I know making movies with real animals
                                         
                                        isn't ethical.
                                         
    
                                        So we use CG animals now
                                         
                                        almost all the time, but it just
                                         
                                        doesn't hit the same. It's not as
                                         
                                        fun. It's not as entertaining.
                                         
                                        I think we should be allowed
                                         
                                        morally to have one film
                                         
                                        a year that is real animals
                                         
                                        in all of the roles. And it's like the big
                                         
    
                                        real animal movie of the summer
                                         
                                        or year. That is my take.
                                         
                                        I really have almost truly
                                         
                                        no opinion on this.
                                         
                                        Who's the board that decides
                                         
                                        oh, this is the movie that gets the real animal?
                                         
                                        Oh, that's, I, you know, I think maybe it rotates by major studio each year.
                                         
                                        A major studio has the, I don't know if you want to say right or like they've been penalized with making a fully real animal movie and it just rotates.
                                         
    
                                        But there's only one and there's a lot of expectation on that movie delivering because of that.
                                         
                                        Because I'm sick of the CG.
                                         
                                        I saw a trailer for Cats vs. Dogs 3 recently, which I didn't know is a thing they made a third.
                                         
                                        third of, and they're all CG, and it looks like shit.
                                         
                                        That's just now they look like shit.
                                         
                                        What do you mean?
                                         
                                        Surely eventually, 20 years from now, you won't be able to tell.
                                         
                                        I don't think that's true.
                                         
    
                                        I think he'll always be able to tell.
                                         
                                        He doesn't want to wait. He doesn't want to wait the 20 years, though.
                                         
                                        I don't want to wait.
                                         
                                        He wants a real cat and a real dog doing something.
                                         
                                        And I also, yeah, I want to know that it's a real dog playing football.
                                         
                                        I want a real dog running out there getting that ball.
                                         
                                        Oh, dude, if the end of Homeward Bound was a CG dogs and a cat walking back home,
                                         
                                        it would not be as impactful.
                                         
    
                                        So maybe I agree with this.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        I think it just doesn't hit the same.
                                         
                                        Do you want the animal to be doing its own stunts as well?
                                         
                                        Or are you okay with a CG double?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        I want it doing the stunts.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
    
                                        Well, this might be where we...
                                         
                                        This is where it becomes unethical.
                                         
                                        Like, say a dog, a dog has to escape a burning building with a zip line.
                                         
                                        Mm-hmm.
                                         
                                        How you doing that?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I'm not a fucking stunt coordinator.
                                         
                                        How does John Cruz stand on an airplane way.
                                         
    
                                        There are people that are professionals
                                         
                                        that figure out how to film that.
                                         
                                        Fucking not what, Gavin.
                                         
                                        You're asking me,
                                         
                                        how do I set up a state stunt?
                                         
                                        I don't do that, but there's an industry of people
                                         
                                        that that's their job.
                                         
                                        I will trust them.
                                         
    
                                        Gavin, take that and show it up, Gaines.
                                         
                                        He doesn't give a fuck
                                         
                                        about how it's done.
                                         
                                        He just wants to watch the end result.
                                         
                                        Here's the thing.
                                         
                                        I wanted to be done safely.
                                         
                                        How is it done safely?
                                         
                                        I don't fucking know.
                                         
    
                                        That's not my job.
                                         
                                        I don't live in that world
                                         
                                        But they're professionals that do
                                         
                                        And I trust that they will figure it out
                                         
                                        Oh my god
                                         
                                        Well that took a turn
                                         
                                        I just want a real animal movie
                                         
                                        Because it's they all suck now
                                         
    
                                        Just watch planet earth
                                         
                                        They're not like doing goofy stuff
                                         
                                        You're not gonna see bingo on trial
                                         
                                        On planet earth
                                         
                                        Bingo on trial
                                         
                                        Remember the bingo movie
                                         
                                        Something we should watch
                                         
                                        He's on the stand
                                         
    
                                        Now, are you okay with the fact that the animal's probably going to get uncomfortable and hurt while it's filming?
                                         
                                        That's the thing.
                                         
                                        That's why it's morally unethical and why we stop doing this as a culture.
                                         
                                        But I think we can be allowed one per year.
                                         
                                        Did we stop doing it?
                                         
                                        There's still animals in films.
                                         
                                        Not really, like not in the way it used to be.
                                         
                                        He wants full animal film.
                                         
    
                                        Like he doesn't want like, here's a section about animal.
                                         
                                        He wants like, full on.
                                         
                                        But not like these people are riding a horse
                                         
                                        sort of thing.
                                         
                                        Right, yeah.
                                         
                                        Right, if the movie was about the horse
                                         
                                        all the way, then absolutely.
                                         
                                        I want MVP 4 with a real monkey.
                                         
    
                                        That's all I want.
                                         
                                        Hmm.
                                         
                                        I don't feel like it's a huge ask.
                                         
                                        Hmm.
                                         
                                        But I understand it's an ethical.
                                         
                                        When I emailed that zoo where Louis
                                         
                                        from MVP is currently residing,
                                         
                                        they were very clear that they do not support
                                         
    
                                        the MVP movies or animals in film in general.
                                         
                                        I get it.
                                         
                                        I support it.
                                         
                                        just we could do one
                                         
                                        we can do one per year and make sure
                                         
                                        it's really safe that everything's all good
                                         
                                        we can do one
                                         
                                        outside of the one
                                         
    
                                        one real animal movie per year
                                         
                                        should be allowed
                                         
                                        that's uh
                                         
                                        well there you go that is that's it
                                         
                                        Eric what's your take
                                         
                                        wow um
                                         
                                        my take is one that in my lifetime
                                         
                                        I think has become it was something
                                         
    
                                        that we wanted
                                         
                                        and then got but too much of a good
                                         
                                        thing has become sort of what this thing is, I think my hot take is not everything needs
                                         
                                        lore.
                                         
                                        Oh!
                                         
                                        At one point in movies, a movie would just be a movie and we didn't have to know everything
                                         
                                        about every character.
                                         
                                        We didn't have to have backstories about every single thing.
                                         
    
                                        Not everything was a big franchise.
                                         
                                        Sometimes a movie was just a movie.
                                         
                                        Sometimes a TV show is just a TV show.
                                         
                                        And sometimes we didn't need the alternate reality game.
                                         
                                        that nobody really cared about to put all these pieces together
                                         
                                        to solve a mystery that nobody wants
                                         
                                        for a show that's canceled in season two.
                                         
                                        But how would characters,
                                         
    
                                        how would a movie exist without law?
                                         
                                        No, no, no.
                                         
                                        I'm not talking about the,
                                         
                                        what you're seeing on screen.
                                         
                                        I'm talking about what happens
                                         
                                        when everyone extrapolates every little detail
                                         
                                        in becoming the most lore-focused thing
                                         
                                        where I guess my example is like,
                                         
    
                                        how come the timeline for Donkey Kong
                                         
                                        doesn't make sense.
                                         
                                        We don't need a timeline for Donkey Kong.
                                         
                                        He's Donkey Kong.
                                         
                                        He is the monkey and he wants the banana.
                                         
                                        So it's more of like a consumer thing then.
                                         
                                        It's like the fan is extraordinary great.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Because I don't think Nintendo are that strict with their law.
                                         
                                        Like look at Zelda.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        And everyone is pit.
                                         
                                        Like not everyone,
                                         
                                        but like weird nerds are pissed about,
                                         
                                        well, where does this fit in the timeline?
                                         
    
                                        Who gives a shit?
                                         
                                        So it does not matter.
                                         
                                        Basically, if someone's there asking, like,
                                         
                                        oh, what order are the Zelda games in?
                                         
                                        Like, is this the same link from this game as it is in that game?
                                         
                                        Your answer is, shut up.
                                         
                                        Shut up.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        Shut up.
                                         
                                        It does not matter.
                                         
                                        Play the game.
                                         
                                        I hope you enjoy the game.
                                         
                                        If there's stuff there and people want to,
                                         
                                        if the creator is like,
                                         
                                        hey, I developed it with this stuff in mind or whatever,
                                         
                                        great, whatever.
                                         
    
                                        When people start going like,
                                         
                                        well, here's how it fits in with the Star Wars.
                                         
                                        Like, Star Wars is, I guess, like the big example.
                                         
                                        When I was a kid, it was all of the books and everything of like the Star Wars extended universe
                                         
                                        and like you read these books and all this stuff.
                                         
                                        And then they just went, no, that's real.
                                         
                                        Yeah, none of that's canon actually.
                                         
                                        And so it was like, but I read all these books and I really enjoyed them.
                                         
    
                                        And they go, yeah, none of that fucking means anything here.
                                         
                                        So fuck you.
                                         
                                        And it was like, oh, okay, sick.
                                         
                                        So I guess it doesn't matter.
                                         
                                        And that's really what was like my turning point on not everything that you like has to become
                                         
                                        the biggest volume encyclopedia.
                                         
                                        it can just be a thing you enjoy for a little while
                                         
                                        and then you can put it away and move on
                                         
    
                                        and you don't have to know what the timeline
                                         
                                        for Donkey Kong is. It can just be
                                         
                                        Donkey Kong and that's fine.
                                         
                                        Like people trying to figure out
                                         
                                        the Mario Brothers timeline is like the craziest thing
                                         
                                        in the world to me. Mario Brothers, you go right.
                                         
                                        You just go right and now you can go forward
                                         
                                        and backward. You pull back on the stick.
                                         
    
                                        Maybe you go forward. I don't know. Nix controls are working.
                                         
                                        Yeah. I just think the lore focus
                                         
                                        of stuff is really, really frustrating
                                         
                                        to me, and I'm sick of it. I'm done with it.
                                         
                                        Now, to be clear, you're not opposed to all lore.
                                         
                                        You just don't think everything needs it.
                                         
                                        Yes, and I don't think that fans need
                                         
                                        to deep dive on every detail
                                         
    
                                        of everything, like Donkey Kong
                                         
                                        timelines. That is...
                                         
                                        I love lore. I think sometimes
                                         
                                        stupidity of lore is
                                         
                                        sometimes my favorite thing about the thing.
                                         
                                        Like, I love,
                                         
                                        I truly love and Fasted Furious
                                         
                                        how fucked up that lore is
                                         
    
                                        because they tried to make something make
                                         
                                        sense and then they decided it didn't matter anyway after doing all of the work to explain it
                                         
                                        where they had a very popular character die in Tokyo drift which was the third film and then in
                                         
                                        like movie five they're like fuck we want to bring him back but he's dead how do we do that okay
                                         
                                        we'll set five six and seven before three we'll do that like well this timeline is all
                                         
                                        fuck now because we want to explain how Han can be around and then they do all that and
                                         
                                        then we get to the point of his death and then they just bring him back anyway in the most
                                         
                                        recent installment and it was like well why did you didn't need to do any of that work like none
                                         
    
                                        of it actually mattered he was just coming back regardless of what you did yeah not of it matters
                                         
                                        but i love that they tried so hard to explain it in a way maybe the only attempt to like logically
                                         
                                        explain anything and any of those movies and it's just crazy that they did it so i love personally
                                         
                                        lore uh i don't the the fan feedback around it can definitely be annoying at times yes i think i like
                                         
                                        it because frustrating because i grew up in a time where video games didn't look anything like the cover
                                         
                                        and you'd have like pixels for like an enemy and i would always be like oh i'm going to read the
                                         
                                        booklet and see what this enemy actually looks like and i want to i want to learn about it and why it's
                                         
                                        doing what it's doing that's interesting and and and when i was younger i
                                         
    
                                        felt the same way because we didn't have it. It was a thing that I was desperate for.
                                         
                                        I wanted more lore and every, what if all these things connected? And now everything's the
                                         
                                        franchise, everything connects. Nothing can be just on its own. Everything has to be, well,
                                         
                                        how does this make sense with the lore? And it's like, this sucks. I just, I don't want it to go back
                                         
                                        to the amount that it was before where it was zero, but it cannot continue to be the amount
                                         
                                        where that it is, which is 100. It's too much. It's too much lore for.
                                         
                                        for every single thing.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I don't.
                                         
    
                                        Fair play.
                                         
                                        I think that's fair.
                                         
                                        As long as we're okay
                                         
                                        with lore existing, I'm with you.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm fine with an existing.
                                         
                                        I'm not fine with people
                                         
                                        being mad about Donkey Kong timeline.
                                         
    
                                        I'm never going to let that go.
                                         
                                        Donkey Kong timeline is like the craziest thing
                                         
                                        in the world to me.
                                         
                                        You care about when the Donkey Kong games take place.
                                         
                                        Donkey Kong?
                                         
                                        The Donkey Kong, God damn.
                                         
                                        It makes me nuts.
                                         
                                        That's crazy.
                                         
    
                                        So what is that law?
                                         
                                        Is Cranky Kong, the original Donkey Kong?
                                         
                                        Right, but that's what people posit.
                                         
                                        in like, oh yeah, the original Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong,
                                         
                                        but then this new game is coming out
                                         
                                        and Cranky Kong's in it and people are like,
                                         
                                        how can there be Kid Pauline, but CrankyCaw,
                                         
                                        like, is people getting mad about like that stuff?
                                         
    
                                        And you just go, I don't know, who, I don't know, man, who cares?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Is anyone wondering where Lanky Kong is these days?
                                         
                                        I don't think anybody wants.
                                         
                                        I don't think anybody wants that he's got,
                                         
                                        he has no style, he has no grace.
                                         
                                        Is Lanky Kong the Taylor Kitch of the Dawn of the Kong universe?
                                         
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
    
                                        None of it is his fault.
                                         
                                        Yeah, donkey is Aaron Taylor Johnson.
                                         
                                        That's my take.
                                         
                                        Thank you very much.
                                         
                                        Gavin, so excited.
                                         
                                        Go for it.
                                         
                                        I can't wait.
                                         
                                        Every time the CEO of a major global corporation takes a bonus,
                                         
    
                                        he first has to stand in front of each employee one by one
                                         
                                        and tell them what his bonus is about to be.
                                         
                                        and tell them how long it would take that employee
                                         
                                        to earn the same amount of money
                                         
                                        on their current salary.
                                         
                                        Just to see if, after going through all that,
                                         
                                        he still wants to take the bonus.
                                         
                                        I love it.
                                         
    
                                        I think it can't be over a Zoom call or anything.
                                         
                                        It has to be in the same room,
                                         
                                        direct face to face.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so he'll be like,
                                         
                                        hi, Edwin Jenkins, okay?
                                         
                                        My bonus this year is $25 million,
                                         
                                        and at your current salary
                                         
                                        would take you 175 years to earn.
                                         
    
                                        Not good to see you.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And just to see if being overloaded with that
                                         
                                        would cause any kind of guilt.
                                         
                                        I don't think it would, unfortunately.
                                         
                                        I think a lot of the people in these positions
                                         
                                        are kind of psychotic
                                         
                                        are just void of emotion.
                                         
    
                                        I really like this idea.
                                         
                                        I would almost like to see a scenario
                                         
                                        in which they have to pitch
                                         
                                        why they deserve their bonus.
                                         
                                        and then it's Squid Game style
                                         
                                        where every employee has the vote
                                         
                                        by hitting a yes or no button
                                         
                                        whether they receive it or not.
                                         
    
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        So what if it's like a mixed vote?
                                         
                                        Whatever's the majority wins.
                                         
                                        Oh, well no one, yeah,
                                         
                                        they would never get a bonus.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, that's why you have to speak
                                         
                                        your case really well.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I just think there's...
                                         
                                        Can you imagine any corporation
                                         
                                        on the planet that we had?
                                         
                                        I think they wouldn't even get 10%
                                         
                                        let alone 100%.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        I think that's fair.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I think that's totally fine.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, make a stronger case.
                                         
                                        If you're really that good
                                         
                                        and that much of a leader,
                                         
                                        you can make your case to these people
                                         
                                        that you deserve more.
                                         
                                        I could imagine a CEO walking out
                                         
                                        being like, listen, y'all,
                                         
                                        I know I'm not going to get my bonus this year,
                                         
    
                                        so I just want to take this time
                                         
                                        to talk about the fact
                                         
                                        that we are not smuggling enough things anal.
                                         
                                        Let's get into this.
                                         
                                        This could be the future.
                                         
                                        I like this steak
                                         
                                        just because I want to see a CEO have to do that.
                                         
                                        I just wonder if,
                                         
    
                                        if how many CEOs at the end of that experience would actually think twice about it or whether
                                         
                                        they just be like, and that's done with for another year?
                                         
                                        I think it's that.
                                         
                                        Do you think?
                                         
                                        I think so too.
                                         
                                        What part of you is going to?
                                         
                                        And David Zasloff changed his mind.
                                         
                                        Like what?
                                         
    
                                        I'm also so interested to see what his compelling case is about why he deserves the moment.
                                         
                                        It changes mind.
                                         
                                        They're splintering now.
                                         
                                        It's just like, oh man, I would love.
                                         
                                        I would love to still be an employee for that meeting.
                                         
                                        That would be phenomenal.
                                         
                                        Think about how these subsidiaries some of these companies have.
                                         
                                        They would have to come to our company,
                                         
    
                                        sit down with us and meet with Drew Sapplin and every other person
                                         
                                        to make the case about,
                                         
                                        all right,
                                         
                                        and here's how long you'd have to work.
                                         
                                        It would almost,
                                         
                                        because here's what's going to happen eventually on these big companies.
                                         
                                        Potentially the employee will be like asking the CEO,
                                         
                                        like, well, what have you actually done this year?
                                         
    
                                        Like, what's the kind of work you've done?
                                         
                                        And he'll just be like, mainly standing in front of all my employees telling them what my bonus is going to be.
                                         
                                        Because it would take so freaking long.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        I had the courage to rename the thing what it was originally called because I just, I have that vision.
                                         
                                        You're welcome.
                                         
                                        And you're welcome.
                                         
                                        Oh, man, that's a good take.
                                         
    
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        That's a fantastic take.
                                         
                                        I like that a lot.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        Sweet.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Nick, round us out.
                                         
                                        What is your take?
                                         
    
                                        I keep getting to follow Gavin on some pretty big crucial takes
                                         
                                        and then I get to dive bomb a little bit.
                                         
                                        So this one, I think a lot of people try to say
                                         
                                        that you should never put ketchup on a hot dog, right?
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        Like that's a thing that I don't know if you grew up with it,
                                         
                                        but all the people I knew were like,
                                         
                                        you should never put ketchup on a hot dog.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        No problem with ketchup like on a hot dog with something else.
                                         
                                        My...
                                         
                                        You mean ketchup, right?
                                         
                                        I mean, you're saying ketchup, but you mean ketchup.
                                         
                                        Katsup?
                                         
                                        Katsup?
                                         
                                        Yeah, ketchup.
                                         
    
                                        Whatever.
                                         
                                        Thank you, Gavin.
                                         
                                        Appreciate it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, thank you.
                                         
                                        Thank you, Gavin.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I also say helicopter, helicopter most of the time.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        I never know.
                                         
                                        Anyway.
                                         
                                        Me neither.
                                         
                                        Now I will.
                                         
                                        Oh, sweet.
                                         
                                        Glad to hear it.
                                         
                                        If you push forward on a helicopter, which direction does it go?
                                         
                                        Well, is it down?
                                         
    
                                        Is it attached to a neck or not?
                                         
                                        It depends.
                                         
                                        Are the controls inverted or don't it?
                                         
                                        All right, go ahead.
                                         
                                        Damn it.
                                         
                                        Are they verted?
                                         
                                        My argument is that ketchup should never be alone on a hot dog.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
    
                                        Cachup has no place being the sole condiment on a hot dog because it's too sweet and takes away from the rest of the dog itself.
                                         
                                        If it's ketchup and mustard, you've got that nice bit of, you know, compare it.
                                         
                                        and more the acidity of the mustard
                                         
                                        going with the ketchup sweetness
                                         
                                        and that complements the dog pretty well, right?
                                         
                                        With a relish, it's pretty good,
                                         
                                        with onion, it's cutting through a little bit.
                                         
                                        Even if you had, like, chili.
                                         
    
                                        So my argument is ketchup,
                                         
                                        alone on a hot dog, gross,
                                         
                                        with other stuff? Good.
                                         
                                        I wonder if you're going to lose this poll
                                         
                                        just because of the catch-up thing.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        In the same way that people get so upset
                                         
                                        when people call Mario Mario
                                         
    
                                        because of just that's where they,
                                         
                                        that's how they pronounce that there.
                                         
                                        I'm so fascinated to see the catch-up reaction
                                         
                                        I also feel like never before
                                         
                                        have you said catch-up so much like catch
                                         
                                        I felt like even after calling it out
                                         
                                        you went even harder on it somehow
                                         
                                        like some of them you were just saying catch
                                         
    
                                        ketchup
                                         
                                        cats up is it ketchup it's ketchup okay
                                         
                                        cats up okay so
                                         
                                        in the event of no condiment at all
                                         
                                        or just plain hot dog it's plain hot dog for you
                                         
                                        is that the
                                         
                                        in the event of no condominent at all
                                         
                                        or plain hot dog.
                                         
    
                                        So if you're going to get a hot dog
                                         
                                        and the only thing they have is ketchup,
                                         
                                        that means you're just going to have
                                         
                                        that plain dog.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I'll take a dry dog over a ketchup dog.
                                         
                                        Would you allow some solo mustard though?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, that's totally acceptable.
                                         
                                        Mustard is a very complimentary flavor to the hot dog.
                                         
                                        How do you feel about ketchup generally?
                                         
                                        I love it.
                                         
                                        It's good on fries.
                                         
                                        It works well, you know, with a burger,
                                         
                                        uh, ketchup mustard, good stuff.
                                         
                                        Huh.
                                         
    
                                        But on its own, on a dog,
                                         
                                        just a weird flavor profile.
                                         
                                        Don't like it.
                                         
                                        Shouldn't allow it.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        I've never,
                                         
                                        wow.
                                         
                                        And you think it's so bad
                                         
    
                                        that people shouldn't be allowed
                                         
                                        to do it?
                                         
                                        Just generally?
                                         
                                        Should just be outlawed?
                                         
                                        Should be a banned combination?
                                         
                                        Well, I hadn't thought of it
                                         
                                        that way until you mentioned it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Fuck them.
                                         
                                        I'm a ketchup
                                         
                                        only dog guy,
                                         
                                        so I'm gonna have to completely change.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Absolutely I am.
                                         
                                        So sorry to hear that.
                                         
                                        Mustard guy.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I guess I'm gonna have to change.
                                         
                                        I think it's so inoffensive.
                                         
                                        And I think the benefits of ketchup compared with a plain dog,
                                         
                                        like absolutely astronomical.
                                         
                                        I would always go for the ketchup over nothing.
                                         
                                        And I'm not even a big ketchup guy.
                                         
                                        Hey, Nick.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        I'm going to go with you.
                                         
                                        Why not?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Sure, you don't believe that.
                                         
                                        No, absolutely.
                                         
                                        No, I don't.
                                         
                                        But I got it.
                                         
                                        Somebody's got to be on the side here.
                                         
    
                                        No, they don't.
                                         
                                        I don't want non-believers on my team.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I don't want non-believers.
                                         
                                        He doesn't want your charity support.
                                         
                                        Someone's got to help this guy
                                         
                                        Just hanging by a thread here
                                         
                                        He's telling people
                                         
    
                                        They're not allowed to
                                         
                                        Look Archie will learn both things
                                         
                                        No catch up on dog alone
                                         
                                        Oh is this something that he does right now
                                         
                                        No he doesn't fucking eat condiments
                                         
                                        That little
                                         
                                        What are you about to say
                                         
                                        That little
                                         
    
                                        Non sauce monkey
                                         
                                        He is the opposite of that character
                                         
                                        Wow
                                         
                                        Sauce guy
                                         
                                        banning sauces.
                                         
                                        That's crazy.
                                         
                                        But I think that it's in lieu of,
                                         
                                        it's not just banning the sauce,
                                         
    
                                        it's in lieu of like,
                                         
                                        you need more sauces.
                                         
                                        I can't just be the single sauce.
                                         
                                        I think a hot dog
                                         
                                        might be the most
                                         
                                        in need of condiment food
                                         
                                        that exists.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I don't disagree.
                                         
    
                                        Like, I would have a dry shit.
                                         
                                        So he's telling you put
                                         
                                        a bunch of condiments on that sucker.
                                         
                                        Yeah, together.
                                         
                                        There's a certain point
                                         
                                        where when I'm putting condiments
                                         
                                        on a dog where I feel like
                                         
                                        the effort is more than what it's worth.
                                         
    
                                        I don't want to have to open
                                         
                                        three different bottles.
                                         
                                        For my hot dog.
                                         
                                        It doesn't, it's too much.
                                         
                                        If you had one bottle with three nozzles and it was just a singular squeeze for all the condiments.
                                         
                                        Somebody, somebody, somebody get uniform on the phone.
                                         
                                        The relish hole would have to be quite big.
                                         
                                        Didn't they do that with like a peanut butter and jelly back in the day?
                                         
    
                                        I mean, you can get little jars of the same shit.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Like all that goober gross looking goob shit.
                                         
                                        That is what it was called.
                                         
                                        It was called goober.
                                         
                                        It was like striped.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it looked disgusting.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        I saw that in stores the first time it came to America.
                                         
                                        I was like, oh, what the hell is wrong with this place?
                                         
                                        What have they done?
                                         
                                        Is it illegal to have it in England,
                                         
                                        or is it just sort of frowned upon
                                         
                                        so you have to put it in your ass to get it there?
                                         
                                        British customs.
                                         
                                        Looking for Goober and mine's in my ass,
                                         
    
                                        and they can't do anything about it.
                                         
                                        We know he has Goober.
                                         
                                        And we know exactly what it's at.
                                         
                                        These guys Charlie ratings are off the chart on this.
                                         
                                        This goddamn goober.
                                         
                                        Doing a 10-hour flight with an assload of goobber would be an absolute nightmare.
                                         
                                        You hear the jar crack?
                                         
                                        Oh, no.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, man.
                                         
                                        Oh, that'd be terrible.
                                         
                                        Oh, man.
                                         
                                        What a bunch of interesting takes.
                                         
                                        Really, really, really interesting takes.
                                         
                                        I mean, this show is created so that way Taylor Kitch could have something to do,
                                         
                                        but it really took us down some rabbit holes.
                                         
                                        Very, very interesting.
                                         
    
                                        I'm so excited to see how the audience feels about it.
                                         
                                        these takes.
                                         
                                        I'm interested in an audience opinion on the poll.
                                         
                                        I'm interested in the audience takes.
                                         
                                        I'm interested in if they want us to do another round of takes,
                                         
                                        Jeff's takes included.
                                         
                                        Oh, I'm sure Jeff would have great tanks.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, it's not going to be inverted versus verded,
                                         
                                        but it will be something, so I'm very curious.
                                         
                                        You don't know that.
                                         
                                        Maybe he's a secret inverter.
                                         
                                        A secret inverter?
                                         
                                        He's not.
                                         
                                        You know, it's crazy.
                                         
                                        I feel like my...
                                         
    
                                        You don't know.
                                         
                                        My first take was so wild and useless, yet somehow, I still agree with it more than both of Nick's picks.
                                         
                                        Well, incredible.
                                         
                                        What's it like to be wrong?
                                         
                                        We'll see.
                                         
                                        Maybe he's right.
                                         
                                        No confidence.
                                         
                                        No confidence in asking him.
                                         
    
                                        How does it feel?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Just, you know.
                                         
                                        Anyway, vote in the poll.
                                         
                                        Was that the end of their sentence?
                                         
                                        Oh, my God.
                                         
                                        Vote in the poll.
                                         
                                        Make sure to check out of our paper.
                                         
    
                                        At the Regulation Pod, Regulatria.com.
                                         
                                        I can't wait to see what happens.
                                         
                                        So they're voting for, they're voting for the worst take.
                                         
                                        Is that what it is?
                                         
                                        They're voting for the worst take to see who will have to pang the idiot flag on themselves.
                                         
                                        Pretty exciting.
                                         
                                        Well, that's good stuff.
                                         
                                        Pretty cool.
                                         
    
                                        Well, thanks guys.
                                         
                                        Thanks for listening.
                                         
                                        Thanks for listening to Regulation Takes.
                                         
                                        Let us know your takes in the comment.
                                         
                                        Maybe that helps.
                                         
                                        And we'll see you next time.
                                         
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