F**kface - The Power of Time // The One for People Who Like Spawn for All the Wrong Reasons [124]

Episode Date: September 23, 2026

Geoff, Gavin and Andrew talk about Gavin on time, early meeting, Million Dollars But, being on set, Andrew Luck, time speculation, Michael, Geoff the Frog, Ya Dead Ya Bodyguard, Ya Dead Ya Dollar, Gea...rs of War, Summer Movie League, Sheep Detectives, apex predator horse, Odyssey, diarrhea, Whalefall, Goof News, Canucks, reclaiming an album, Disturbed, Limp Bizkit, pissed, ruined dreams, loose ends, pizza tracking, Hopdoddy, influencers, and bagel row. Sponsored by Shopify. Start your free trial at shopify.com/regulation Support us directly at https://www.patreon.com/TheRegulationPod Stay up to date, get exclusive supplemental content, and connect with other Regulation Listeners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Hello and welcome to another episode of the Regulation Podcast. This is episode 124. My name is Jeff. With me as always, Eric, Nick, Gavin, and the other one, Andrew. How's everybody doing? Great, thanks. Gavin? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:16 What's going on? Oh. Are you referring to the fact that I was, I popped in almost late? You got, you popped in like, face, Gavin popped in with nine seconds less. to go. That was so f***-face. Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you for why. I was about 45% through a poo at 10.57, and I was panicking.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I had to rush the end of it. I started the wiped with two minutes to go. It was a, it was touch a go. Does the podcast trigger your poop response? Because you always seem to like run it right up to the wire. Yeah. Yeah. It's always like podcast poop for Gavin.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Well, I was doing a little bit of sort of behind the scenes work. And then I ran out of time for my poo. Usually I like to give a bit of like half an hour probably before the podcast for my poos. I just, I feel like if Gavin's late, there's like a nine out of ten chance. It's because of a shit. Yeah. I feel like it's like a jack going to the dentist excuse at this point. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:02:24 That has to hurt. That has to really cut you to your core, Gavin. It stings because it feels true. Yeah. Yeah, I find that offensive. I was really surprised because this is like Gavin being almost late. No pleasantries, no nothing coming in right under the wire is very f***-faced. It's just very old school of doing that.
Starting point is 00:02:44 But it's also the opposite of what happened earlier this week where me and Gavin were independently both half an hour early to a meeting. You guys were yelling at everybody in the Slack channel for a second. And then you deleted your yell. We were so cute. I was at the airport. Eric was pretty bad. Because we got there, we got to the meeting at 11. Like, obviously, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And then we were just like, I saw Eric in there as the only one. And usually there's a, there's pleasantries going on. Yeah. You can see people's names of the Discord before you join. I got in there. I was like, wait, where is everyone? What's going on? And then Eric, as we were talking and wondering where everyone was,
Starting point is 00:03:19 Eric was getting more and more annoyed, started typing. Typing in the Slack. And then it was like, oh, it's, uh, It's an 1130. And I was like, oh, so I checked the candle. I was like, oh, it does say 11.30. And then I said to Eric, oh, it's 11.30 every week. Every week.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah, every single week. It's always been 11. It's always been 11.30. Yeah. And then we both erupted into not being able to speak laughing and then just both left the discord for half and out. You left the discord like somebody told a joke and answered the light? But I wonder. I don't think I've ever been early to the meeting.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And the fact that two of us were, what happened? Oh, I've been early to that meeting. Oh, you have by accident? Absolutely. Yeah. Is it because you thought it was 11 and not 1130s? Yes, 100%. Huh.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I think Jeff and I have both showed up once to a meeting and had the same thing that you two had. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, wow. So it's the same, but probably you both got less mad than Eric did. Oh, yeah, we weren't mad. No madness.
Starting point is 00:04:26 We were more embarrassed. Everybody. and then realized, oh, shit, it's, why do we think that? That was months ago, though. That was maybe a year ago. But yeah, definitely done that. I think the confusion comes from the meeting being at 1130, but the recordings being at 11. Yeah, everything else is at 11.
Starting point is 00:04:41 But 1130 for that meeting has really worked out for us. And this is the first time I've ever gone that early to go. All right, meeting time. I don't know what happened, man. Dude, wild. wild just like where is everyone oh never mind shit I'm I'm sad I miss the anger messages it was just it was so it was so bizarre I like tagged everyone
Starting point is 00:05:10 I was just going like what what's happened like where is everyone like what's going on and then just started deleting it wasn't even yeah you were like hey where is everybody it was like what the fuck are you guys yep dude it was as I saw it hit and then it went deleted I was I was goodbye. And then I just saw that I just like a word bubble for like two minutes. I waited for it to come in.
Starting point is 00:05:33 It's pretty funny. Man, how long were you guys in there before you realized? One minute? Like we, it was 11.01 and I was escalated messages. Dude.
Starting point is 00:05:43 It was because we're not like, we're very timely. This is, I really appreciate how timely we are as a show. We don't keep each other waiting. We're like, we're jumping on top of stuff. It's,
Starting point is 00:05:55 it's great. I love how. on time we are for all of our recordings and everything that we do. But like, it is, it is great because I remember at Rouss the teeth, I got pretty good at figuring out the exact amount of time to be late by based on previous experiences. Like, million dollars, but you can always be 45 minutes later than your call time for that show. Because chances are, you'll get there 45 minutes later. And then within about 15, 20 minutes, they'll be like, all right, let's, uh, let's get you. in makeup or whatever or get clothes on or whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Yeah, we're running about an hour late today because Gavin didn't show up, so pushed everything else back. But we're just trying to get it. We're just trying to rush it through when he gets in. I can promise you, I never delayed that show a single time. I could also promise you that during the first 18 of them, I wasted potentially 30 hours of my life. I'm not going to argue with you there.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I think I did one shoot and I would be commiserate with my experience. It was just a lot of different setups, which caused. a lot of logistics and sitting around. Also, the real thing about it, too, is, like, there is nothing that feels better than being on time and having the moral superiority for hang over with people when they're late. Like, that is like, that's like, that's what adrenachrome is.
Starting point is 00:07:13 That's the fucking, yeah, that's the, that's what's really going on. That's the, that's the power right there. You don't want to lose that. Power of time. It's the power of time. It is, and I'm very, I'm very into that. Do you, Gavin, and I guess Jeff, miss being on set for that, like having, not necessarily like the call times and stuff, but like filming and being on set and all of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Is that something you guys missed or not? Go ahead. Not really. I feel like I've definitely done that. It was, that was a fun show to make, though. Like, I enjoyed the actual making it part. But just the having to sit about between the setups was pretty rough, especially when a lot the time, I was like five minutes away from the Achievement Hunter office, but I was never
Starting point is 00:07:59 allowed to just pop back in and keep doing stuff in there. I hate all things related to real production. The word set already turns me off. If I had my way, rooster teeth would have never recorded audio and videos separately in a live action way. Everything would have been done on phones. Like, I never liked any of it. I hated every second of it. Or I shouldn't say I hated it. I tolerated a lot of it, but I didn't, I didn't hate all of it. But yeah, it's not my, that's not my speed at all. I very, very rarely. I enjoyed some, I genuinely enjoyed some moments in Haunter, but they're very, they were far, few and far between. Honto was real. You got, you had to sit on your own a lot in that one, though. I did. That's fine. Like,
Starting point is 00:08:39 that was the best of the best, honestly, but like live action, uh, do anything narrative having to read line, or like run lines, do an, I, like, perform with 30 people looking at you and have to get it right or you're wasting their time. Meanwhile, they're all about to waste your time anyway, so what's a fucking matter? Yeah, I just, I'm not built for live action production. I've always hated it. Why'd you keep pitching of that?
Starting point is 00:09:02 What'd you say? Why'd you keep pitching stuff, like weird place and all that? It was my job. I want to do the best possible... I want to do my job. That was literally my job. They come to you and they say, we need a live action show.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Here's the budget. Give us the best of your ideas. That's my job to do that. Fat play. Yeah. That makes sense. I'm sure quarterbacks don't like
Starting point is 00:09:27 getting sacked, but they go in knowing it's a part of their job and they're gonna fucking do it. Yeah, but they're not pitching, getting sacked. They're not going into
Starting point is 00:09:34 watch film and going, guys, guys, I got an idea. Here's my big idea. Let them hit me as hard as they can over and over. Sometimes they do.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Andrew Luck was super into it and that's probably why he retired as early as he did. He famously was like, he'd say like, go, good sack. like people that would get him.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Fuck, what was I going to say? I was going to add a question. Oh, did the people know, Gavin, that you're going to be 45 minutes light? Did anyone on the production side know your own internal scheduling? Oh, no, you can't let them know because then they'll account for it.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Gavin's right. Like, he's right about that. They will, they'll build it in, and it'll be a whole thing, and then you've wasted the 45, like, then what's the point? Because they'll move everything back because they think they're going to be on time,
Starting point is 00:10:20 It never once has a production been on time ever. Well, they're very distracted. It's not like I would show up 45 minutes later. They'd be like, hey, I would usually just walk in. Everyone would be doing all their work. And then I would just sit down with someone else who's in it. And I'd just be like, how long are you better? I'm like, oh, 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I made a joke earlier about it, but Gavin is 125% right. That is exactly how it goes. You can't get there late enough. Like, yeah. That's pretty true. I've never been part of a production that was just like, well, okay, we said 10 and we're starting, it's 10, so let's do it. Like, it's never happened.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It's just never happened. I scheduled an event once with some friends, and I was annoyed with one of them because they made it be earlier than it needed to be out of the fear of it being late. And I was like, you're causing the scheduling issue. You're speculating on that. Somebody would be late, so it's early. It was like just a scramble to get it organized,
Starting point is 00:11:20 because somebody wanted it to be an hour early because they didn't want it to run late. But they were available at the hour it was supposed to be originally pitched on. I was wondering if there is ever a scenario like that on the production side. I was like, fuck. Gavin's not going to be here for 45 minutes
Starting point is 00:11:37 or just knowing, but it makes sense. Yeah, I mean, you would get a different number for each production. Like Achievement Hunter, don't need to allow for any time. Although if it's a solo recording between me and Michael, I could probably be 10 minutes late. It's about right.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Hey, hey, hey, you can still do that. Does Michael still get up to pee the second you yell record? Yeah, hey, oh, we're all sitting down here, yep, and then he sits down for a second, and then he stands up and he's like, we just, no, every time. You can set your watch to that dude's dick. It's fucking crazy. Rolling tape here, man, come on. There's five other people that just have.
Starting point is 00:12:19 We all just sat down. So we just... Everybody else went in the bathroom a half hour ago. Yeah, play on my phone. All right. Sounds good. That's all you can do. We don't really have anything like that at this company, I don't think. No, again, we're timely, but we also don't have larger productions. Yeah, we stripped away everything that's not fun about what we do. I agree.
Starting point is 00:12:44 For the most part. I mean, there are some things that aren't fun that we just have to do, like accounting. But for the most part, I think we got everything as efficient as possible. Yeah. It is crazy to think that this is quite a well-oiled machine. It's a funny-looking jack machine, but it's got oil. Yeah. I think that's... There is oil.
Starting point is 00:13:07 It still squeaks really loudly, but there's a ton of oil. The part of the machine that I'm in has the most friction and needs the most oil, I think. I agree. Yeah, 100%. I was at the coffee shop this morning, you know, per my usual Thursday routine, prepping my notes. And you know that scene in Always Sunny
Starting point is 00:13:28 when Charlie and Mac are across the Gugino's Italian restaurant for each other and they lock eyes? I had that with another person today at the coffee shop. And I saw my doppelganger and I became transfixed looking at this other person. And so I took a photo and I'm going to share it with you guys. I don't think the other person was fine. I saw myself
Starting point is 00:13:49 and I've never felt more seen and more like I've seen me in my entire life. Oh, this is going to be great. That's me. Oh, you're a frog. You're a frog chilling listening to a walkman? This is you in Zen mode. You're the cassette frog? Yeah, I'm a little frog with my cute little hips,
Starting point is 00:14:07 but my feet stuck in the water, laid back. I think I'm frog from frog and toad, actually. I think the design is pretty dead on. And yeah, I just stared at that goddamn frog in that little pond today for about five minutes and realized, what are you doing? I was just like, I was transfixed by the frog. And I realized I was looking back at myself. So you're Jeff the Frog. I am not Jeff the Frog.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I didn't make that association at all. I'm starting to regret taking the photo. You got me. That's what, yeah, I'm Frog from Frog and Toad. Which was Millie's favorite book when she was a kid. You're Jeff the Frog. frog, do you have any age back tips? I'm not... You still need age back tips?
Starting point is 00:14:49 How many age did you have this morning, Jeff the frog? Gavin, I need you to send me pictures of your return unit. No, I didn't have any eggs today. No, I'm not Jeff the Frog. It's not a Mark the Frog thing. It's just like... Jeff the Frog? God damn it, this would not go up.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I think it's Jeff the Frog. The spirit of that frog is imbued in me. We are both chilled. That is a Zen frog. I'm a Zen dude. You lost some Zen. I'd say when we did the You'd dead your bodyguard stream the previous Friday.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I recovered it immediately. That was a great cover and I think Andrew lost a lot of Zen. I can have a Zen dip but I can, and also I'd like to point out I'd like to point out I lost Zen when the game cheated. And I went back and I watched
Starting point is 00:15:33 and it's pretty clear that game cheated and killed me. Is that where you just died out of nowhere? I just died. You lost Zen a couple other times. Well, you guys tried to kill me by keeping me pushing me forward into a highway after you.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I forgot about that. That was frustrating. But for the most part, yeah, no, I mean, there's some Zen dips, but it's all about how you recover, you know? Peaks and valleys. I had to leave early for helping some wedding stuff or whatever. But I heard that the game type we were playing, you dead your bodyguard, is in fact not real.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Doesn't exist, really. And none of it's right. And so what happened? What happened? the description of the achievement isn't actually how the achievement works is what we learned. What's the exact description?
Starting point is 00:16:22 What's the exact? I didn't have it in front of me. I could pull it up. Please do. Let's give me a second. Let's be factual about this. Yeah, let's be, we've got to be very factual. There's no indication of,
Starting point is 00:16:34 even beyond that, it is kind of a broken thing. Because beyond, so to describe the issues, the concept of you dead, your bodyguard, you're trying to beat this campaign without gnawing. Whoever dies then becomes a bodyguard for those who are still alive. However, there are levels in which you need to hold X to end the level. And in those scenarios, only the person who holds X gets credit for the law. What?
Starting point is 00:17:00 I was told yesterday by someone in my chat that they double-checked that and that's not the case. That everybody got credit. That they verified themselves over the weekend. They apologized and said, if that was the case, it no longer is that everybody got credit. I don't think we ever saw any evidence of that. We didn't, we didn't. Yeah, it was something we were told. But a lot of the stuff we were told ended up being right.
Starting point is 00:17:20 100%. Do you have it, Gavin, or do you want me to read it? Oh, Eric posted it, a complete entire remix campaign without dying. Complete an entire remix campaign without dying. There's no specifics of... You can play it in co-ops, so it feels weird that a death would be shared across all things. Wait, is that what it is? Yes, so if anyone dies, nobody gets credit.
Starting point is 00:17:41 which was somebody brought up in the chat earlier in the run and it was kind of dismissed but they were 100% right well yeah Eric dismissed it as nonsense because that's not what I that we have been playing an invented game type that I was told this is how it is. It's a cool game type though
Starting point is 00:17:58 it was a great game type yeah it was less you're dead your bodyguard and more you're dead we dead yeah you dead we dead you dead we dead you dead restart yeah so we had to really lock in and it was a thing of like Nobody can die. And we had some death.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Some people died. It did morph. We did change it. We did create, because like a phoenix, out of the ashes of you dead, your bodyguard, we created what I think might be,
Starting point is 00:18:25 maybe not a better idea, but on par with that original idea, which is you dead, your dollar. So now, from that point on, anytime anybody died, they have to put a dollar in the freezer
Starting point is 00:18:36 because that's where we're going to keep all the money until we decide what to do with it. Yeah, so far, I think Nick, Jeff, and myself all technically have a dollar in the freezer. Yeah, I need to put mine in, but... Wait, why are we putting it in the freezer?
Starting point is 00:18:48 Got to put somewhere. Yeah, it's the safest place. The freezer is the safest place? We agree, thanks for saying that. Nobody looks in the freezer for money. The rats can't get it. Yeah, the rats definitely can't get it. So anyway, now we have a new series called You Dead Ya Dollar.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And at some point, we're going to figure out what to do with all the dollars. That mostly will come from me, I assume. since we started your dead your dollar I'm just extra pleased that we didn't know about that concept while we were playing gears oh my god oh my god I'd have to sell my house it'd be impossible I just keep hearing about this
Starting point is 00:19:23 what happened we're traumatized spent six hours in a room trying to kill a boss and uh it was bad and nobody was to blame we all equally sucked yeah yeah for sure
Starting point is 00:19:37 is all equally bad but I do think it was equally bad I do agree it was a thing that were like you didn't understand what other people were doing at times not in the sense of like
Starting point is 00:19:49 why are you doing it that way but literally like I don't know what their job like I don't know what they're doing like Gavin run into the corner and I had no idea what his role was yeah like Andrew and I were on one side for about three hours
Starting point is 00:20:00 and Gavin's on the other and I just had no idea what even Gavin's side of the map looked like yeah no clue for a while yeah we got that We figured it out. I'm excited for that to come out.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Well, one day eventually come out. Good luck to the editor. Yeah, it's a lot. Do we just leave it? Like, I guess, do we just, like, leave that, like, really, really long? Do you try to, like, convince it? Yeah, it's going to be really, really long, but still. Yeah, the movie.
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Starting point is 00:22:44 like providing food, shelter, and crisis prevention. Donate today at United WayGT.org. We had a thing end. Yesterday was the final day of our summer movie battle. It's over. I'd have a question. Just to relate to it. Nicky Gavin, did you guys see any movies this summer?
Starting point is 00:23:07 I feel like you may have, but you never reported any of them. I thought I did. Nope. No. I saw a Toy Story. No, I don't think I saw any of them. Wow. I'm surprised.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I would go more if the Alamo wasn't a piece of shit. I get it. Why? You can just simply watch them at home or on your phone in the bathtub. Or go to the movie theater at the mall. They have pizza and hot dogs too. That's true. Pizza and hot dogs, Gavin.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I like watching stuff at home these days. So do I. Love it. Yeah, we know. Pretty clear. Love it. Big fan of it. Oh, Nick has proved you wrong.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Yeah. Nick has watched. Oh, my God. So how can I trust this count, Andrew? Yeah. I thought you saw it and I scrolled through and I didn't see the post on it. But good to know. What other post didn't you see?
Starting point is 00:24:02 Wow. Yeah, did you count my two times getting popcorn outside of this? the theater? Yeah, did you count my three? We can review if there's any disputes. We're welcome to go to the chat later and review. Wait, hang on. Nick, what day did you post that on?
Starting point is 00:24:20 Let's see. Yeah, watch sheep detectives. July 6th. Yep. He said watch sheep detectives. How dare it make me feel? Yeah, dude. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I shouldn't feel for sheep. What the fuck? Oh. You felt from that? Did you not? Oh, you haven't seen. I've felt the feel was overrated in that movie personally. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:24:45 I heard a lot about the feel in that movie, and it is a cute movie, but I did not think the feel was as impactful as I was told it would be. Well, no, maybe I felt it because I was watching it with my kid, and there's like a neglected sheep kid in the movie. Oh, I think we're talking about different feels. Did you, do you feel like you neglect your kid? No, but I'd hate for that to happen to him. That's true. That is true. What was the feel you felt, Andrew? It was the confusion.
Starting point is 00:25:14 There was a character death that I assumed was the feel that most people were referring to. I mean, Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman, yeah. People were really sad. They're like, I thought he was Wolverine. I thought he was immune to everything, but no fucking dead. Just immediately dead. It's Wolverine. But adamantium or whatever, but no, dead.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Adamanium. Adam, Adam, Antimidium? Unfortunately, in the sheep detectives. He was only made of badamantium. Hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. No, that was better than anything you guys had. Zen?
Starting point is 00:25:50 Gavin agrees. I'm Zen. That was great. Bad amintium is great. That was great. Yeah, I ain't ruin that. I did see two of these. I saw the Furious and Jackass 5.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And for some reason didn't see the Odyssey. I can't. You didn't... What? I had tickets for it and then I went out of town had to cancel them and then I just never
Starting point is 00:26:12 never had a slot open up. Wow, that's honestly shocking that you didn't see. That's like the most Gavin movie that came out this summer. Oh, for sure. Yeah, and it's IMAX. I even tried to,
Starting point is 00:26:23 when I was going to England, I tried to book it for the IMAX in Waterloo and that was all, that was fully booked the entire time I was back. Like two months after it came out. Wow. Damn.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Do you think anyone tried to sneak into the Odyssey via Trojan horse? Like somebody walked in with their own little Trojan horse with somebody on the inside to see it? Oh, that's a great idea. Little eyes through the, through the horse eyes. Well, the horse's eyes are on the side, aren't they? Yeah, you'd have to do them in the front on this one. This is a predator horse. This is a horse.
Starting point is 00:26:56 This is a horse that's looking for prey. This horse is so mean. Its eyes have shifted to the front. I'm imagining it's so blatant. Sort of like how the minions eyes are like you know how big and circular they're like just the front of the horse Yeah what Eric just supposed to a horse with very straight looking serious eye Oh my god Dude predator horses is crazy
Starting point is 00:27:17 I would love to see I'd like to see apex predators of all these different prey animals I want to see a horse that's also a predator the alien predator and it doesn't exist and I've been googling it in there With the mouth. Can some are some people talented make them a predator war
Starting point is 00:27:44 people people will be making it on but now just looking at different animals with
Starting point is 00:27:52 the eyes moved to the front the pigeon the pigeon with eyes in the front is so crazy if
Starting point is 00:28:05 unsettling would an alien horse Jeff have little horse head shoot out of its metal? Like, what would be the tongue? Well, an alien horse would, yeah, probably. Or it'd have like another dick in its horse dick, maybe.
Starting point is 00:28:20 What? Yeah, I don't like that. Wow. I didn't realize the Trojan horse was an Odyssey thing. There are a lot of things in fantasy that I'm realizing are from the Odyssey as someone who didn't know that. Like Medusa or whatever, that's in the Odyssey, right? That's an Odyssey thing.
Starting point is 00:28:36 You know, you see those TikToks from like people that are like, actually this isn't really true and it was that never actually happened and it was, I don't know it was true, but somebody was saying
Starting point is 00:28:46 that the, the treasure horse thing was barely ever mentioned in the Odyssey and it's a real small part of the story and it really got made bigger over time
Starting point is 00:28:52 and may not, may have been misinterpreted. I just looked up at what Medusa was from and does not specifically mention Medusa in the Odyssey. Oh, the Cyclops? That's in the Odyssey,
Starting point is 00:29:04 right? That's true. That's less snake hair and more one eye. And then like the siren or whatever. Yeah. They have bogs in that horse.
Starting point is 00:29:12 No. No. No, they talk about it specifically where they were like shitting and pissing. Oh. Yeah. How many people
Starting point is 00:29:19 men have been in that horse? I don't remember. I think it was almost like two dozen, I think. It was like four score or something. Yeah, either that. And they were in there seven years ago. It's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Yeah, but you would have been okay, Gavin, because they weren't recording podcasts. Yeah. They should have recorded a podcast. Just like the idea of it. All right, everyone take a shit before we can climb into the horse. As soon as Michael sits down, he's like,
Starting point is 00:29:44 I don't think of this. Everybody move. Bill forgot the pee. Bill ruined it for everybody. You know, there's dudes, too, that are like, it's okay if Greg's shits. His shits aren't bad, but Steve is not allowed to shit. Yeah, that's you, man.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah, you're Steve, dude. Oh, I'm aware. I'm aware. I didn't need to throw my name to it. I thought it was fine, but okay. It's specific about it. It was a shit heavy week with the, But that diarrhea incident of that thing.
Starting point is 00:30:12 What? What? I know you're talking about the woman in competition. Yeah, she shattled over everything and then won the money. Everybody slipped and fell in her shit. Oh, that's terrible. They've changed the rules now. Nobody's allowed to shit anymore at that competition.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I don't think that need, that's a given. Yeah. Apparently it wasn't. I think that's sort of common in like long distance running. Well, that just happens. It was, I think, more that the shit was all over the machines that everyone had to use after and stuff. Oh, God. I didn't, I just, it was a thing I scrolled by.
Starting point is 00:30:46 It affected other competitors' ability to continue. Yeah, maybe if you're, like, outside and you're running 100 miles, then you might expect a little bit. Yeah, I just thought it was like a marathon type thing. Like pretty, pretty common, like, all those tour to France dudes are pissing all over themselves on the bike. That, that's pretty common, but yeah. Not really, they're not, they're not, like, pissing on their neighbors or driving by. Although, if it's not specifically disallowed, they should give it a shot, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:14 There's already rules about diarrhea and stuff. You can't go for a swim. But, you know, it's, it's a, I have some respect. What do you mean by that? Jeff can never swim again. Yeah, it's been, I haven't been allowed to swim in 12 years. You never see one of those signs that are at the pool? Like, don't swim in this pool if you've got the shits.
Starting point is 00:31:32 If you've had diarrhea in the last two weeks, you're not allowed to swim in this pool. Is it is on like almost every hotel? Pool sign. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah. At least in America. I've never seen that.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Yeah, it just looks like this. There might be different diarrhea laws in Canada. It's just like that. I just threw the sign up. That's crazy. I've never seen that in my life. I thought that was a bit. I thought that was a joke when it was mentioned earlier.
Starting point is 00:31:57 In a previous upset. That's crazy. Oh, he already talked about shit in pools recently. Yeah. Yeah. Talked about Jeff's Limit. Yeah. And if he'd be allowed or not.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Right. He's not. I'm not. But you keep your fucking mouth shut and everybody's going to be just fine. Yeah. Keep your mouth shut. There's diarrhea in this pool. I'm not diarrhea in any fucking pools.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I'm on purpose. I think you would designate if you're having the piss and shit in a horse, there'd be a piss and shit section, although 50 people in one horse. It's probably not spacious. Maybe like the back right leg. I would build a little trap door right under his tail where his butthole is. I was just going to say the tail.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And then all the people would be like, man, this is realistic. Yeah, what the fuck? This is realistic. How have they done that? That's amazing. It's incredible. Why did they do it? It's not how.
Starting point is 00:32:50 It's more why. Oh, this horse had corn. Oh. Previce of pushing a horse down a beach and they're just being a piss trail behind it as they're moving it. What a gift. Was it the sheep or the pig that we had poop, Gavin? I think it was the sheep. The sheep?
Starting point is 00:33:08 What? I don't know. We went in the sheep's anus. We had to go up the poop to get into one of them though. We made a giant sheep and a giant pig and you would enter through their anus
Starting point is 00:33:20 and one of them pooped. Yeah. We made one of them shoot poop out. This isn't an Odyssey scenario which Jeff and Gavin made a pig that they had to sneak into. Yeah. And there was shit in the pig.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I don't know it would be the best animal to hide in. Ooh, pig. think? Pig. Impedient. Immediately thought pig. Yeah, I mean, elephant,
Starting point is 00:33:41 spacious. Oh, that'd be big. Whale? Yeah, but whalefall seems scary. Like, it's eating that guy, you know? I love that guy's career
Starting point is 00:33:50 so much. I'm so excited to find out what happens next to him that is horrible. He's had such a generational run of guys that are in weirdly bad spots. He did weapons,
Starting point is 00:34:02 and now he's in Resident Evil, and his next movie is about getting swallowed by a whale. Like that's just as three different characters going through things. Oh, Abrams? Impressive. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:13 The lead actor of Resident Evil. Just it. I was trying to think of like another actor that had like a three movie run of dealing with the most insane, insane specific odd issues. Which is zombies and whale swallowing. That's a pretty bad run. Yeah. Whale swallowing. A whale, you could just truly not get out of, uh, through the side.
Starting point is 00:34:37 But I think a pig I could bust through. Really? You're like, I want out of this pig. Let me out of this pig. I think I would just have to turn sideways and just go through the ribs. Yeah. Through the delicious, delicious ribs, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:50 He's going to eat your way out. Yeah. I feel like I would more likely escape a whale than a pig, personally. You could walk out of a whale, yeah. Yeah, it's just so big. Now, whale fall's going to suck. He just immediately exists.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Oh, man, this is stupid. and he just gets up and walks out. Yeah. A pig fall? Call me. It is interesting that whales are like the animal that we've seen people be inside the most. Well, I think it's just because it's the biggest animal. Yeah, no, a lot of us have been in by like a pigeon.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Well, if it had those four, if it had the forward-facing eyes, we might. If it could come and see us. It's an exotic bird. Doesn't get more exotic than that. It doesn't. Yeah, okay. So Nick saw sheep detectives. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I'm excited to talk about these movies when we do. We're going to record the recap after this. We'll record a supplemental, a recap for the summer movie league. So if you're waiting to see how all that went down and everything, stay tuned. We'll have a supplemental out for that very soon. Pretty soon. Because we're on top of it. I think the 27th that should be out.
Starting point is 00:36:01 That's when it's scheduled. And it'll be on YouTube. It'll be free for everyone. It's not going to be behind the paywall. I also want to give credit to Jeff. Thank you. Really? Mr. Zen and the work he's been doing on goof-news.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Oh. Yeah, dude. It's so good. Thank you. I appreciate that. You've been really carrying it over the line. We're in the, I guess, getting close to the final stages, I'd say. You've put so much work in.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I think we're probably like 70% of the way through with it, you know? Thank you. Yeah, I've been, we talked. it would be fun after with all the fun of coffee news we thought it would be fun to create our own version of it so i've been building our version of goof news which means you know coming up with fun facts and little bits to write about but also you know ads for businesses that might add that might be interested in advertising and goof news and whatnot and so uh and a lot of those businesses you know you got to build the business out too you can't you can't just make an ad
Starting point is 00:36:58 you got to you got to build an entire industry behind it so it's taken a little bit of time but I'm very excited. And I think the idea is hopefully we can release it online for free, obviously, for everybody, but also maybe like print it some out and throw them in orders or something as we go. Oh, I love that. That's fantastic. I think it's a really good idea. I'm very impressed with a lot of the stuff that you have in there where you are,
Starting point is 00:37:21 you're thinking in like a very, you know, there's like a narrow lane that you can get in with this where it's like, you know, I want to mimic this, like one to one or whatever. you're mimicking it in a way that is so like truthful to this show that when I scroll through it, it's so much fun to see. I really, really, really like it. I think it's so cool. You're doing a great job.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Wow, thank you very much. That was very nice of you all to say. I really appreciate it. I've had a lot of fun doing it. And you guys have helped a lot, and so I appreciate it. You took a screenshot from an Xbox game, I think, for an ad, and I was very impressed by that. Nick gave me that.
Starting point is 00:37:56 That was pretty cool. Oh, that's awesome. I was happy to help. Was that water park simulator? Oh, Nick gave me the ad, Nick gave me a screenshot for roadside research. I did the one for water park simulator.
Starting point is 00:38:10 The goof and go. Yeah. Because you know, these are businesses that exist in goof world, so. I have a question for you, Jeff. I guess anyone can answer. I feel like you're the most qualified.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Have you ever, in your time of breaking cards in the break show? I opened a box of hockey cards relatively recently. And I got a hit. I got a massive hit out of it. But it's a player that I now hate.
Starting point is 00:38:37 How do you process that? Like how... I didn't know how to feel. Well, you should sell it. What do you hate him for? They were a Knoch and then they demanded out and they've been kind of a mess.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And then everything they've done since leaving the franchise has not been great. I got a really... Rare Quinn Hughes autograph card. He's like one of the best defensemen in the league. Yeah, flog it. I would say if he's tied to my team, I hold on to it
Starting point is 00:39:08 because the team's more important than the player. Like if it was a Celtic, I'd probably hold on to it. But if it's just some dickhead I don't like, in theory, I would sell it and just try to, you know, use that money to buy somebody I like. Interesting. Okay. It's a funny card because he's not wearing a jersey in it. So he got traded mid-season.
Starting point is 00:39:26 So it was a thing where I was like, Well, if he is wearing the Canucks jersey, no Canucks fan wants him. And the team that he's currently on, Minnesota, I don't imagine anyone who is a Minnesota fan would want him in a jersey. So it's kind of perfect. It's him just holding a trophy. That's kind of how I've been able to get all these kind of rarer Marcus Smart cards because nobody wants Marcus Smart on the Washington Wizards cards.
Starting point is 00:39:49 He barely played for them anyway. So it's like, there's no, you know, I'm not having, I'm not fighting people for those. It was just such a conflicting thing of emotion of like, Oh, this is clearly a case hit. But it's also like, I hate this guy. I don't like this guy. Yeah, we've unfortunately pulled some case hit level hits on the break show in the past of people who have been very canceled. Not just unlikable, but like, oh, canceled their own value in the card too.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And you're like, I guess fucking shred this. Oh, wow. It is interesting the idea of, I wonder who's lost the most money, like what collector or like what collection. took the biggest hit via being canceled. Like there are people that collect certain figures. Like to me like, well, I was gonna, never mind. I'm not even gonna go down that route. Yeah, it's like even,
Starting point is 00:40:37 because I can tell you, I can tell you a few, but I think, if we're just talking about it offline. The thing where the person I thought of is part of a sport that the general fan base doesn't seem to care about that type of stuff. So it's hard to even measure. But yeah, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, it was conflicting.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I have another question. This one, more for everybody. Music, one of the things I love about music, is when you listen to it, it kind of takes you to a place, at least in my experience. It's almost time machine-like where there's certain memories you have
Starting point is 00:41:12 or feelings at a certain time where you remember listening to the song. I don't know if I'm alone in that feeling, but I often be like, ah, this song makes me think of this or like this period of my life. I had an album I really liked, and I played it a lot when I was going through
Starting point is 00:41:30 like a sad period and now I can't listen to that album I've ruined it for myself Is there any way to reclaim an album Have any of you been able to do this? I've been through this a lot Yeah, you can do it Sometimes you have to take a significant amount of time off
Starting point is 00:41:44 I've definitely lost a couple of albums To like divorce You know? Sure And or a couple of artists Where you just like You have so many memories tied up that it just becomes like,
Starting point is 00:41:58 you know, an emotional landmine listening to songs. Yeah. Not necessarily looking for that. But I think time helps. Yeah. Time. Just listening to a cover
Starting point is 00:42:09 ease you back in. Oh, what do you get the same vibe? Interesting. That's clever. I never thought of that. I don't know. Because it would sound different, right?
Starting point is 00:42:19 Unless it's a cover where it just sounds the same. I hate those covers. We're going to cover something, do something unique with the song. What's the point? I was listening to the Land of Confusion the other day. I think maybe because Eric posted a picture of the music video. It's like the nice time to listen to it.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And then I guess I was on some sort of playlist where it just shifted straight over to the disturbed version. Oh, it's so bad. Oh, listen. The Land of Confusion is a good song with an ugly music video. The disturbed version of Land of Confusion is so fucking bad. and it, oh God, Gavin, oh my God. I listened to it and I was like, there's some interesting choices of this.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And now, I'll be honest with you, in the last week, I've listened to that portion more than the Genesis. No. You're a disturbed guy? Oh, no, yeah. Is that your favorite cover now? Hell yeah, this is Gavin listening to it.
Starting point is 00:43:16 It's the disturbed music video. It's so, oh, God. Oh, is it animated? Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, you can squint. and look at it, I guess. Kevin's so edgy.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Which is the, uh, the uglier video, Eric? This one. Whoa, this one's, that's neck and neck, dude. Here's the thing. The, I can't look at, oh, God, when I just see the fucking Genesis, like that's so dis, it's like vile. That is absolutely vile. Are those spinning image puppets?
Starting point is 00:43:48 Oh, that, yeah, that's what it is. That's the music video for Land of Confusion is the spinning image puppets. But man, when the disturbed one is just like, it sucks. Jeff, it sucks in such a specific way. There are going to be people who listen to this, and I'm making fun of the disturbed music video,
Starting point is 00:44:08 and they're going to be so upset that I'm making fun of it, but I have no choice. Like, it's not your fault. It's the band's fault. It's like for people, this music video looks like it's a cartoon for people who liked Spawn, but for all the wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:24 reasons. Like, it's fucking disgusting. It's so, oh. Can we call this episode the one for people who like spawn, but for all the wrong reason? Absolutely. Yep. I can't believe you're listening to the disturb one so much, Gavin. That's crazy. Are there any other disturb songs in your rotation that you listen to or is it just this? Yeah. Is it going to open you up? No, I don't even really come across that weird covers, like the sound of silence and stuff. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I have heard that one. What's like a, what's the the biggest disturbed normal song. Down with the sickness.
Starting point is 00:44:58 That's their, that's their biggest hit. Yeah. Oh, that's them. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's, the guy had, uh, the thing I always think about with the guy from disturbed is that he had, he had the sole patch.
Starting point is 00:45:15 But then it's in like two like little snake bite things down the front. He's afraid. Whoa. There was, he's in a computer as well. Look at the background. He's at a computer. There was never a time when that was okay. Oh, you'd be upset if everyone is walking around with snake facial hair?
Starting point is 00:45:35 If that's the future, I don't want anything to do with the future, yeah. Oh, you're going back to the 70s now? Send me back in time. I'm with you. Like that? I don't give a fuck. This is, it's just such a look where my uncle who's just a dirt bag sees it. And he goes, hell yeah, that's it right there.
Starting point is 00:45:51 It's like, that's, dude, that sucks. Shut up. If you told me that it was a poster for characters in the Chronicles of Riddick, I wouldn't. Oh, 100%. I wouldn't. Yeah. This is, it's music for people who like the Chronicles of Riddick. Oh, man, I like Riddick.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Yeah, but not like this. Not like the way they like it. You lie, everybody likes Chronicles of Riddick. It's different. They like it. Yeah. Yeah, it's different. Death by T-cup.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And then he kills him. A little cup in the jail cell. I can't believe we're talking about Disturbed on this podcast. This is. from gardens in his disturbed era. Oh, I've just got a bit, they do a bit before the chorus in Latin of a computer, where he's just like, ah, ah, ah, ah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:47:56 on Brad Pitt, Part of the Beast. September 25th. Get tickets now. How you feel about limp biscuits behind blue eyes? What's that one? You've never heard that one? It's the Who, it's the behind blue eyes by the Who, the covered by Limp Biscuit very seriously. It's very funny.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I feel like the music video, he's inside of like a, like a jail cell or something. That makes sense. He's like, or in like an insane asylum or something like that. Like that's what I think of. with it and it's like nobody knows what it's like nobody knows what it's like he's like serious bullfuss fucking suck he has an Elvis tattoo
Starting point is 00:48:38 what the fuck is that a Kurt Cobain is that Kurt Cobain on his chest next to Elvis it looks like Kirk Cobain and Elvis that can't be real they got along famously Wow. Such a I was scrolling TikTok one time
Starting point is 00:49:01 and I got a random like realtor trying to sell a house thing for some reason and they use limp biscuits behind blue eyes as the backing music for their video of the tour. I was like, what are you doing? I would not buy a house from a person that like it's fine
Starting point is 00:49:20 like what you like but just like tonally. it's just so weird to just be like, this is this house. Four bathrooms or whatever. And it's just behind blue eyes. Apparently in the last episode of this podcast, Jeff was telling his story about the insurance fraud thing. And mentioned like, oh, you know, it's for the cops. It's just like, he said, she said.
Starting point is 00:49:46 And then I was talking about something I was like, yeah, just one of those days. And we were apparently just calling this freaking lip biscuit. He did it all for the nooky. I don't know what else to say. You have any update on that Jeff that's like podcast? No, no update. I haven't heard anything from the insurance company
Starting point is 00:50:04 since I gave him my statement. I don't know. Wow, shocking. Yeah, shocking, right? I'm going to guess it disappeared. But I logged into my last time I logged into the app to look, it was like still, you know, under investigation. Doesn't matter to me.
Starting point is 00:50:17 I'm back in Zen mode, so I don't. You are back in Zen. Oh, congratulations. Good. Which question? I have a friend. that has been re-listening to the show. Is this you?
Starting point is 00:50:26 Is your friend you? Yeah, it's me. I'm re-listening to it. How dare you call me? And he's got a lot of questions. He's got a lot of questions. Um, I guess in an episode, Gavin,
Starting point is 00:50:37 very early on. Like, when the first 10 of, yeah. You said that, uh, there was a friendship that ended over something incredibly small. I think the prompt was what, like,
Starting point is 00:50:52 the smallest thing. that ended a friendship. Is that related to a game raging moment? We talk about that later, or is there a different thing? You said you would talk about it on an upcoming episode
Starting point is 00:51:05 and then it never came back around. This could be two things, because I watched a friendship end between two other people, and I think I had a friendship end when I'm not sure which one I was going to talk about. Oh, I guess you could pick one.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Please don't be just. Please don't be Jeff. The one I watched to end was one of my friends was peeing. And then his friend... Was he in a horse? No. Just on the side of a hairdresser. The building, not the person.
Starting point is 00:51:38 He's pissing on the building. And then his friend came up and pissed as well. And then he just sort of swayed his stream of piss a little bit towards his friend. And they went on his shoe. And they never spoke to each other again. Whoa. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Got peed on. was livid and yelled, you're dead to me, and then gobbed, and then, like, gobbed in his direction, and then they were never friends anymore. Oh, my God. Well, how old was this?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Ooh, probably 18. Okay. Okay. Old enough. He got pissed, pissed. Yeah. He got pissed. You got exhalated pissed.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Damn. The friendship I ended was that my friend were playing football outside, uh, just outside of our house. as my neighbor. And my friend bought, he bought a set of cards, like a yellow card and a red card. And I was really excited to get a red card.
Starting point is 00:52:30 So I just kept like trying to do fouls. And I just booted the ball at him because he was being the ref. And it hit right in the face. And I felt bad. I was trying to get a red card, but I just smashed him in the face of the football. We tried to continue our friendship. Like we did, we were, we still hung out. But it was like, it definitely dented the friendship a little bit.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Things were different after that day. Dipped his face. Yeah. I still feel bad about that. He chose to be the ref? Yeah. Yeah. How many people were in this game?
Starting point is 00:53:03 Uh, probably few. It was, I think it was 2B2 and he was the ref. It was 2V2, and he chose, he like bought the red and yellow card. He was really into the idea of being the ref? Yeah, he had a shirt as well, he had the black-and-white shirt. I think it was just because... That's so funny. Well, I mean, people do, because...
Starting point is 00:53:20 come refs. I think it's natural that a kid would want to be a ref. I just have never thought of like, how old were you? Oh, seven maybe? Yeah, like being seven and being like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna grow up to be a ref one day. I think it's hilarious. It's reading the rules and the CBA for the thing. He's like eight. Well, I think when you've got so few people, like three v two, it's just like it's not a not a workable game. If you're the ref, you can still hang out with us. I will say, I remember when I was in high school, my friend and I, I would ref like church games on Sundays. And it was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I remember looking forward to it. Yeah. I think we would all take it in turns to be ref, but he was the only one with the gear. Do you think this has impacted how you view refs as an adult watching sports, Jeff? Me? More sympathy?
Starting point is 00:54:07 Yeah. Do I think I have more sympathy? Because Gavin lost a friendship? I was the first I'd heard of it. No, you're talking about being a ref in the church thing. I never really thought about it until this moment. It impacted me in so little. it's a memory that I hadn't had in
Starting point is 00:54:21 probably 30 years until it was just jogged by Gavin mentioned in this. I feel like you'd be a menace of a ref respectfully, Jeff. Thank you. I think you'd be just throwing calls out there just to mess with people. I also have no sympathy towards any form of authority. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:39 self-hating ref. Pretty much across the board, any authority figure, once the word authority is involved, I lose sympathy. It just is what it is. But you've been an authority. Yeah, I fucking hate it. Were there any challenge flags?
Starting point is 00:54:58 I guess that's like a football thing, American. There's no challenges in like European football, right? Coaches can't throw a red flag demand that the ref double check his work. No, I mean, there's like VAR, right? Yeah, you can like, did you have VAR, Gav when you guys before? No, you have VAR? Yeah, you have VAR? That's what I should have done.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I should just sat there with a camcorder. Oh! I missed an opportunity. I didn't really... It wasn't any good at football. You might have saved a few friendships. The concept that instead of one of you would just rotate out when playing, but instead I was like, no, I'll be the ref.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I got this ref thing down. I wonder if they grew up to be a ref. Uh... Oh, shit. Try and find out. I wonder how far they're reffing went. Did it never go past that line? or do you think they refed like college games?
Starting point is 00:55:51 Well, maybe... What if me chipping the ball into him was what got him out of the game? You ruined his dream of being around. You realized this was a dangerous career. Oh, shit. Do you think you've genuinely ruined anybody's dreams at some point in your life on accident?
Starting point is 00:56:11 We, everybody probably has at some point. I don't think so. You definitely have. I'm trying to think of a context. text in which I could have even accomplished that. I don't think I've ever been in a scenario in which... You don't think you ruined Jake's dreams of being on SNL? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Okay. Judge Judy. Done and done. Done and done. Hey, you got me. I had someone ruined my dream, but I think it just spurred me on a little bit more. I was talking to a... I was filming something.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I was working on some advert on a golf course, and the director of photography was telling me that he works mainly in America and I was like, oh yeah, do you have like a 01 visa for that? And he was like, yeah, yeah, I'm trying to get one of them. And he was just like, oh, no, no, no, that's, they're very difficult to get. I don't think you'll, I don't think you can, you're quite young
Starting point is 00:57:04 and I don't think you'll get one of those. That's just like, oh. Jesus. What the fuck? And I was, I was bummed about that for probably two months. Jesus Christ. But it spurred me on to try and get one harder, I think. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:57:21 Take that Gary. Oh, shit. Name it his ass. Hell yeah, dude. That's what I'm talking about. Use your platform, buddy. You think Gary's been listening to 200 episodes being like, oh, I hope I don't get called out.
Starting point is 00:57:33 He's nervous. He listens every week and he's scared. The other thing that came up in the podcast, I guess, was, Jeff, you lost your pinky toenail and you were scared to see if. it even existing? Have you ever confirmed that you have a new pinky toe? That gets, that gets resolved in episode at some point.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Okay. If your friend continues to listen, but yes, I don't know, like four or five months later, I looked at my foot and it was back and fine. Yeah. Good. And it's been back ever since. Never, no more issues. Congratulations. Didn't really, I like these loose ends. We got to, you type the loose ends. Got to tie up the loose ends. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Well, you don't love loose ends. You love the tying of the, you don't. Yeah. Just to be clear. Yeah, I don't like leave them. But you can't tie an end if it's not loose, though, you know? That is true. You need it loose to be tied. Chicken and egg situation. Yeah, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:58:26 If there are any loose ends, I guess let us know in the comments. It is fun. Oh, that's... Oh, boy, these comments are going to be nuts. We're nothing but loose ends, dude. This is the loose ends podcast. We tied a lot of stuff. We don't tie up...
Starting point is 00:58:38 Dude. I have loose ends notes in my notes for this episode right now. Really? Can we tie up? Yeah. Things I want to... These are just... I have a section
Starting point is 00:58:48 called hanging chads. These are things I want us to not forget about. Okay. Regulation wrestling, I thought was awesome and I want us to stay on top of that. Wow, really?
Starting point is 00:58:56 Okay, thank you. Audience loved it. Comments were fantastic and I... It's one of those things where it's like, we put the episode out and then it's like, oh, fuck, if we don't record one now,
Starting point is 00:59:05 it could be three months before the next one comes out. And so I want to stay on top of that. I wrote Bit Barrel, but it actually auto-corrected to butt barrel, and now I want one barrel to be a different thing that we can figure out.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I want to continue the NBA series at least one more episode so we can play with Boguljub. Oh, Booghub, yeah. I want to make sure we don't miss out on that. The pinball machine is fixed, so I want to do a pinball tournament now. Okay. And we want Gavin to eat butter. These are just bits that have been...
Starting point is 00:59:36 Why does Gavin eat to eat butter? See if I can tell... Yeah, see if he can determine if it's butter or margarine. Oh, I see. Yes. I remember that now. Oh, that's right. These are good loose ends. These are good loose ends.
Starting point is 00:59:48 These are just the little things in the periphery that I just don't want us to lose steam on, you know? You know our constant tracking where now we're going to move on to pizza and now we're not so fuss about what the average is across the nation, but we will set the average. Yeah, we're creating the average.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Do you think we should call it extra median? I like extra median. You know what's interesting about the pizza thing is I feel like more than burgers, there's such a variation of what can be on it. Oh my God. The concept of how much, like, how much food a certain person could eat in the same measurement is fascinating to me. There can be somebody who exclusively eats cheese pizza, and then there are people that may exclusively eat deluxe pizza, which is like every topping. the amount of volume the food volume is
Starting point is 01:00:45 there's such a variation there's such a large range there is I mean there are versions of that with hamburgers right like there are people that eat vegetables and then there are people like Jack that exist that eat two pieces of bread one slice of cheese and a burger no ketchup
Starting point is 01:01:00 no mustard no green no red nothing but those four items or three items sure yeah that's the equivalent of a that's the equivalent of a no cheese pizza to me but yeah no see I think like the difference between how much of meat you can have on a pizza as opposed to a cheat, like the bait, a plain, to me a plain burger to a burger with like lettuce, tomato, and onion
Starting point is 01:01:22 on it are completely different in terms of scale. You can get bacon and shit on it. That's true. But yeah. Onions. Crispy onions. Grilled onions. Fresh onions.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Fresh jalapenos. Grilled jalapeno. Yeah, we just did an episode for 100% eat where we eat like, it's like a pretzel bun with beer cheese. and two different kinds of mustard. Like, you can really vary a burger. What is beer cheese? I think it's like a cheese rue-type dip spread,
Starting point is 01:01:52 but it's made with, it's like, logger-style beer that they used to thin it. It might have pimento in it a little bit, too, maybe. It can, I think. Yeah. Not this one. Not this one. This one was weird.
Starting point is 01:02:04 We went to Hop-Dottie, and it was straight. It was the greasiest burger I've ever eaten in my entire life by a mile. It was crazy. Let me ask you guys a question. Not to get into the 100% eat territory, but what? Do you guys like HopDottie? How do you feel about HopDott?
Starting point is 01:02:19 This is the first time we've ever gone. The episode's out by the time this is out, so it's fine. It was so disappointing. I think I said while we were eating it, I like the flavor of this burger. I hate eating this burger. It was the greasiest, sloppiest thing that was so weird. and it's just like
Starting point is 01:02:41 the ambiance for that place is really strange. I don't really, it's like trying to be a yardhouse, but it's not yardhouse. I don't really care for Hopdottie very much. Is that still a line? No, because I think they have so many locations. I'm sure that it, I'm sure it'll fill up. They just opened one in Mueller.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Yeah, there's one on Anderson, there's the one on Congress. There's one in L.A., too. I thought it was fine. I think, yeah, the mystique is worn off on it, I think, for sure. Definitely. I think the ordering system is annoying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:12 It's just sort of like, you know, that's fine. We did it because it was the pretzel pub burger, which is very like lauded and 100% eat, like, lore, the pretzel pub. I asked just because I feel like that was like the most hyped burger in Austin for like four years. And I was like, there was one called the Diablo, though I think it's pretty good, but it's not like, I just never understood, I never understood the links people would go through to get that burger. It wasn't worth the line. It's funny that you say four years.
Starting point is 01:03:41 It started in 2010 and then was sold to private equity in 2014. Huh? Who could have seen that? Oh, wow. Yeah. So you were on the money for four years. It's absolutely what it was. Some fucking, that's, and the Jeff.
Starting point is 01:03:54 You know, there you go. Way to go, man. Good work. Thank you. Yeah, I've never been able to separate the weight time that I've had eaten there from the food experience. So I've actually have no idea if I like the food. I just get annoyed by the weight.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Well, you got an order and then show up 45 minutes. for it is the... Hell yeah, you get them. I once had... I think I had a meeting with Bernie and someone else, maybe like someone to do with my immigration stuff. And we met them there. And they had to leave to go back to the office
Starting point is 01:04:23 before we sat down. Well, you had your meeting standing in a burger line? Well, the idea was to sit down, but I don't think we even really had the meeting. We just kind of loosely chatted about it, and then they had to go. Huh. I, having meetings in line, I kind of like the idea of.
Starting point is 01:04:42 You do? Yeah, because being in line suck, and it gives you an activity to do in the line. Oh, and it's annoying for the, it's surely annoying for the other people in the line, though, if they're having a meeting. Yeah, but who can't, like, the, the line is bad. The line is bad for everybody. Yeah. Huh. There's no difference than talking in the line, the three of you, just talking about whatever, than having the meeting in the line.
Starting point is 01:05:05 True. They're all meetings. Yeah. They're all meetings. What were you to say, Jeff? I was just going to ask if you guys, what do you think the new HopDotty in Austin is right now
Starting point is 01:05:18 with insufferable lines? Because I have an opinion. All day pizza? All day pizza does have some lines. La La Land. That's a place I'll fucking never go to, probably. No, it's like a macha store that opened up and there's like city of Congress.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Two hour lines for fucking... Macha. Shug's bagels for a minute. I think it probably mellowed out a little bit, but Shugs bagels had with Austin, Texas loves the line because nobody's like, no one's from here. And so it's,
Starting point is 01:05:51 I also, I thought about this. I think I drafted a tweet and I just have it hanging on that I, I've never seen more influencers with less influence than I have right now. It is stunning. They are eating each other alive in Austin right now. It's wild. Have you seen that influencer apartment complex on Rainey Street and all the drama and controversy surrounding that place?
Starting point is 01:06:15 Pretty cool. What? There's drama around an influencer apartment building? Something about like people getting like cheap rent but not being able to deliver on views and clicks and then it like being like being like I don't know. Overpack full of people. There's all these videos of them on the weekends and the pool looks like it's the fucking like the hard rock pool in Vegas and I don't know. Every time I see a TikTok about it, it's something negative about that place.
Starting point is 01:06:40 So these are like kind of established people. These aren't people trying to become creators. I think it's probably both. Yeah, both. Yeah. Man, it sucks. I hate a line. I hate a line for food.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Makes me crazy. I just can't. It's not for me. There's no. And listen, I understand there's Franklin barbecue and Lobb barbecue. And there's a lot of really wonderful places to eat in Austin.
Starting point is 01:07:07 There's no food on earth that's worth waiting more than 15 minutes for, to me. I'm with you. Oh, it's the longest you'd wait, Gavin, for food. 45 minutes. Really? So much longer than what Jeff said. I mean, if it's like we've had this reservation
Starting point is 01:07:30 for a long time or something. Well, why would it be waiting in the line if there's a reservation? No, you're right. I can't really see a scenario where... Like if I walk up to a restaurant and there's more than a 15 minute wait, I go, thank you. And I just walk next door or and then next door and then next, do you just go down the line? Do you find the place that nobody likes that seats you immediately?
Starting point is 01:07:49 Yeah. Yeah, I guess it was just the only place. Yeah, I don't know. I'm, uh, 15 minutes is a while. I guess it depends. It depends on the food. They're context in which I'd go about 15 minutes, but it's very rare. I'll wait half an hour for dinner.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I won't wait for breakfast. I agree with that. The context is if you're with other people and it's their thing and you're just along for the ride. I'll wait for an hour and a half with my in-laws if that's the, you know, that's what's happening. But if I'm in charge, if it's my deal, if I'm Jeff by myself, yeah, or I'm Jeff with one other person, yeah, I will put my foot down. Yeah, I'll be a big baby about it. See, the scale completely flips for me if I'm the other person. If I'm the person, if everyone's going to my thing and there is a five-minute wait, I'm pulling the shoe.
Starting point is 01:08:36 I am I would have such anxiety about making other people wait for my thing Oh five minutes alright I think most people have no problem waiting My wife will happily wait an hour
Starting point is 01:08:46 At a restaurant If that's like that Wow I just am not that I just I don't have that kind of patience In anything Yeah Andrew used to
Starting point is 01:08:53 Used to wait by the bagel shop Didn't you Back in the day I did but I never needed to Oh Wait what will you do it Wait what? I was more prepared
Starting point is 01:09:04 than I needed to be For sure Like it wasn't open? Yeah, like I would show up like maybe 30, 40 minutes early and the next person that would show up would be maybe like 10 minutes early at most. What? Five minutes early. So something I did a lot. I realized the, I did the calculations and adjusted in the future.
Starting point is 01:09:27 But yeah, there are definite times where I had to get here early because things sell out quick. And I was way too early. A kid's been standing outside for an hour again. Can we just let him sit inside and wait? What would you do? Just stand there? And I would just sit. I just,
Starting point is 01:09:46 there is kind of like an area in the front because it was gated. It was like a lot gate you had to get through. It wasn't open yet. So I just sat sort of a public on some, on some like brick. Sitting on the brick. What's your current bagel situation like?
Starting point is 01:10:04 That was such a big part of your life. And then it was a part of regulation for a f*** face, at least for a little bit. Absolutely. I don't have any idea what your bagel, your day-to-day bagel. I'm not really bagel in anymore. I'm not bagel in. I've been kind of lost. Is it just there's no, there's no spot?
Starting point is 01:10:20 There's no good spot anymore? Um. Well, there's a good spot, but there's no brick nearby. I guess I wasn't that much of a bagel guy before that. I didn't dislike them. I just, they weren't really in my rotation. And then I got super into bagels and the bagels went away. And so like, I just never, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I guess I'm still grieving in some ways, the loss of the bagel. In my head, I feel like you could, you should just be able to walk around and find your next bagel spot, but I have no idea how your island works. Like I like finding out that there were no escalators blew my mind. There's so many, all the bagel spots in one line. It's just like the malls Molls. Bagel Row. Bagel Row. Yeah, there are plenty of great local bakeries that that do bagels, but it's just not, I haven't really pursued it.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I feel like it's so much more lame too, knowing that I was 45 minutes early for a place that had the regulation bagel, like our bagel. I feel like that makes it worse. I feel like that makes it more embarrassing. I'm like over eagle. Eager. Over eagle.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I'm not over eagle. Over eagle. So you do really well in golf. Yeah. New birdie. Over eagle. Yeah. And I've been kind of bagel list and also cream cheeseless.
Starting point is 01:11:32 I was not a cream cheese guy. They made great cream cheese. Never had cream cheese since exiting. That place or that place closing. I can support you not eating cream cheese. Did they move on to open, like, separate spots, or is it just... No. Neither of them went on.
Starting point is 01:11:47 It's just dead. It's just dead. Long gone. There's no, like, bagel DNA in another bagel spot around town. There is a bakery in the same spot, and I believe they make bagels. Oh. Wait. Oh.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Wait, the place where you used to get that early, sit on your bricks. You can still get bagels there? Probably. Oh, you got to get down there, Andrew. I've been there. See if they'll make a, see if they'll make the bagel. I've tried some of their stuff and I enjoy it, but, um,
Starting point is 01:12:24 but not their bagel? No. That was the place that my mom can't go into now because there is a donut place, uh, downtown that, uh, what's it called? milk jam, I think. And they make really good donuts. They do like the cronet type thing as well. It's like it's high-end
Starting point is 01:12:46 like bakery type place. And they make great donuts. And then this place is called Misty Pines that moved into the old my hubby's bagel location started selling donuts. And they offered my mom a donut. And she's like, you know who has really good donuts?
Starting point is 01:13:02 This place. She just said a different place to them. And was so embarrassed. And now I don't know if she's ever gone back there They're like you want a donut You want to try one of our donuts And she's like no I don't I don't want to But you know who does have good days
Starting point is 01:13:17 Brutal I forgot about that Did it just slip out and now she was like She's like mortified by it? Yeah absolutely yeah It just slipped out and it is the thing she's mortified by Oh I think she can go back No I just looked up
Starting point is 01:13:33 I just looked at Misty Pines And I'm seeing people say Guess who has the best bagel in all of Vancouver Island. Whoa. So something to think about. Wait, the whole island? That's what says.
Starting point is 01:13:46 That's what this influencer says. I'm influenced. Oh, you're influenced by the influencer. It worked. Lower their rent. Yeah, get them a discount. Look, I'm looking, I'm seeing right now with that. I'm not seeing any bagels on there.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Oh, that's a good looking bagel. Except for all the white shit. What do you mean? The white shit is the bad part, but the rest of the rest of the, You don't like cream cheese? Oh, do, don't I? Oh, I guess you can only get the bagels as a sandwich. Are you surprised Nick?
Starting point is 01:14:14 I mean, yeah, a little. I know you don't like white shit, but. What's wider than cream cheese? What's the rest of your thought, Nick? It's good? No. Unfortunately. It was good.
Starting point is 01:14:27 I eat it, believe it. Talk to Nick about food. He'll tell you that all food can be good. It can be good. You're just picky. All food can be good. Unfortunately, I'm not picking cream cheese. I don't think that's controversial.
Starting point is 01:14:38 I have to hear about this from Nick all the time about how all food can be good. It's good. I want to see now, Nick presents Jeff's white gauntlet. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Uh-uh. He has to turn Jeff on white food. Listen, I'm going to tell you something right now, you motherfucker. Yeah. This is like, you know how like we don't joke about Eric
Starting point is 01:15:01 putting his arm in the thing that constricts it because it freaks them out anymore? If you want me, if you want me, on me to eat white shit, it's going to have to be some sort of a stretch goal.
Starting point is 01:15:12 The audience buys us a private jet or, like, there's no fucking way I'm putting a variety of white things in my mouth unless it's for significant something. Because that is like, that's like, that's like fucking Luke Skywalker
Starting point is 01:15:28 going to the Dagabas system and having to confront Darth Vader in the fucking, in the jungle, in the swamps. and finding out it's himself, I'm not gonna look into a fucking vat of cream cheese and see myself looking back at me. I'm not doing that unless it's something,
Starting point is 01:15:46 unless it's life-changing money. Well, it's not reflective. What if it was the whitest room? You go, like, it's just the whitest things all in one. It's the white room. It's limp biscuit playing behind blue eyes. Yeah, if I don't have to lick anything in that room, I'm fine. All the walls are white.
Starting point is 01:16:02 What if you're blindfolded and you have to determine, is it white? Ooh, and what if it's a punishment? I think declaring... Yeah, what if it's a punishment, Jeff, then what? You, motherfucker. What? I'm just thinking out loud. What if it's white doesn't have to be a punishment and is...
Starting point is 01:16:20 If it's a punishment, then I have no choice but to adhere to the rules of face off. Just thinking, just thinking. I won't fight that because I am required to fulfill the punishment. and no matter what it is. There's nothing about is it white that says you have to taste it either. You can sniff. Nick is my fucking foil in all things. Imagine having two companies with a fucking Mario Party.
Starting point is 01:16:50 This shit. Every time you turn around. I didn't say anything about making you do it. I was just a for instance. A for instance. Well, for instance, for instance, I'll do whatever the punishment is. is. Outside of that punishment, though, I'm like Isaiah Thomas when he got traded from the Celtics for saying it, but a back up the
Starting point is 01:17:12 Brinks truck. Oh, like that. Yeah, it probably would be. Is there a company that rents out Brinks trucks? Brinks. Hey, that was a pointless question. Hey, congratulations. And what a way to cap it. Wow. The pointless question from the episode.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Yeah. Oh, man. I enjoyed this episode. I did too. Hey, before we leave, can I tell you guys something? Yeah. Yes. I think I found my next thing.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Oh. I think I found something that I'm into. And I think it might be cool. You guys maybe think it's funny and embarrassing. I don't know. I think this is definitely because of the new house. But I've noticed myself being really... All right.
Starting point is 01:18:09 I think I found it. my tiny town. I think I might start building in my yard fairy gardens. Isn't that adorable? I love those! Isn't that so cute? That people that lived in the house before me had little girls and so there's a couple
Starting point is 01:18:26 of trees that have like little fairy huts and they're so cute. I want to make little fairy worlds. Isn't that adorable? It is adorable. I love that for you, Jeff. I want to do that. I want to build that. If I saw that posted and the question was, guess what the person who made this looks like? I don't think anyone would come up with your appearance.
Starting point is 01:18:44 That's amazing. Wow. I think it looks so cute and charming. I would have built little fairy settlements around my yard. We'll start making tiny goof town. And then, yeah, kind of, and then Albert will come through and just fucking destroy it all. Yeah, Godzilla, like Albert.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Oh, we should film a, we should film a little Godzilla short with Albert. Like, film it. Oh, that'd be great. like over crank the camera so he looks massive and stuff. Let's do it. All right. Let's put that on the list. We'll add that.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I'll build my fairy village. And then Albert can fucking wreck shop and we can film it. I love it. All right. That sounds good. Should we end this episode? Yeah. Let's end it.
Starting point is 01:19:25 All right. This is the end of episode 124 of the Regulation Podcast. Congratulations. You made it all the way from the start to the finish. It was a marathon. And you just won it because you. you laughed for the last hour and 15-ish minutes straight.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Congratulations to you. You're working on your stomach muscles. You're working on you. You're having a good day. And you're going to carry that in to the rest of your week. We'll see you here next time for 125. Love you. Bye-bye. Bye. Do you shoot yourself there? Bye.
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