F**kface - Ultimate Playlist of 98

Episode Date: September 9, 2023

To put a wrap on the Summer of 98, Geoff, Gavin, Andrew, Producer Eric, and Nick get together to make the Ultimate Playlist for 1998. In a round robin selection, the crew builds a list of their favorite songs of 98 to put together one playlist. It's back to back jams as we take your summer out with a bang. You can listen to the Ultimate Playlist of 98 on Spotify here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2n5nxHO2auQPS6nvabXww1?si=d9ac386d7842482e Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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ranking we are going to build a playlist as a collective of all of the music from 98 that we love and it will be your summer of 98 playlists that you can enjoy reflective of your summer i'm joined as always by jeff eric and gavin and nick and i am excited to hear your musical choices because i i love music but it is a massive blind spot for me. I've not nearly invested as much time into music as I have like movies or video games. Dude, this is where like all the I'm the opposite. I have invested way more time and effort and love into music than any other entertainment medium in my life. And so I feel like I know infinitely more about it than movies or video games. i'm so jazzed i created a my own

separate list to pull from because i was listening to a very specific kind of music in the time and i'm largely ignorant to what was going on the popular culture at the time i just can't wait to get going oh that's awesome i am so excited to hear your music i really like what we're doing with this one i was worried that after we got done with like the debate and sort of ranking of like top 10, I'm like, I just can't imagine that my music and Gavin's music is ever going to like, you know, really like meet in the middle. Yeah. a time when I mean I turned 12 and it was when I was really like finding music listening for the radio a lot and then getting past stuff on the radio a lot and finding stuff that was like oh whoa I like this I'm gonna listen to that and it was becoming sentient you know in like through music which was very exciting yeah I feel like for it was, I was right before that stage.

Like I was still, I didn't have access to my own music yet or I couldn't change the radio yet. So I was just, it was whatever my parents listened to in 98 still. Sure, yeah. And I really liked the idea of us not having to like go crazy here

and make something that's like, okay, we gotta like rank these, but we're just making a list of songs that we feel like should be on a playlist. And it's also, it's hard to argue a bunch of songs that none of us have ever heard. Totally. For or against, you know?

So this is like the ultimate summer of 98 playlist, which is not to say this is music that just came out in the summer of 98, but more like music for your summer of 98, right? Mm-hmm. Which I'm very into. So we're trying to kind of stay within that 98 range, I think. And that's just kind of where we're at with this stuff.

I think, do you want to kind of go one by one and everyone picks a song in order and talks about why they want to pick that song? Yeah, I think that's a great idea. I think maybe like when you're out of songs, just say like I'm done adding to the list and then it'll just keep cycling until everyone has filled what they want. OK, I can I can make a list. I can kind of like jot these down as we go. And I'll share it with you guys if you want to keep an eye on it or whatever. And you can also sort of edit as we move or whatever.

But this will be a playlist that I think we'll put together and share out with everyone when this comes out. So you can sort of shuffle it and listen to it for your ultimate summer of 98 playlist. I'm looking at this document of some of the songs here. I can't believe some of these are from the summer of 98. Like I would have put money on these being from so much earlier. Yeah. So that's like Ace of Base. Cool summer.

That's the one that gets me every single time. I thought that was in the 80s. Me too. Landslide by Fleetwood Mac gets me because that's from like 1977. Yeah. Is that re-release? No, no, no. Like, Ace of Base was a 90s band and like.

When was All That She Wants? 90s. That was probably 96. What? Oh. You don't think so? Oh, no. All That She Wants, 1992.

Oh, my God. I was. I thought that was 80s shit that's no no no no no no no weren't they a uh you're what what's the fucking euro trap what's it what's the thing eurovision eurovision aren't they a eurovision band i don't know are they that would be so weird because they were pinned as the next abba and ABBA was a Eurovision band, right? Ace of Bits Swedish pop group formed in 1990. Whoa. Jesus.

That's blowing my penis out. Yeah. Does not. I don't think that they're Eurovision. I just assumed. Anyway, hey, what order do we want to go in? Do we want to do ANEG? Yeah, let's do ANEG.

Yeah, hey, we can do ANEG. So what, that means I'm first that's your first andrew yeah okay um i'm gonna go this is like very basic for its time it's on the top 100 list that charted i'm gonna go stop by the spice girls i fucking love the spice girls as a kid it's such fun music the movie was great uh might be on a future list, depending on the content we do. I think they're such a fun pop group, and they were a very major part of my childhood as far as music listening, I guess.

Did you think Stop was a good song in itself? I think Stop is a great song. I think it's one of their top songs. Thank you very much. I totally agree with you andrew i feel like this was right at the end of girl power and sure spice girl stuff and everything but i think this is probably their i think this is probably their best song it's up there for sure yeah i definitely top two i'd say yeah and that is my first selection okay nick you know gavin was talking earlier about how he was

kind of at the mercy of his folks still and that's kind of where i was at i was about 10 in 98 and so i didn't quite have my own feel for music yet and you know sometimes you just get those earworms that would never go away and i think tub thumping by chumba wumba really is one of those songs that even now when you still hear it, you're like, you'll find yourself.

It's one of those songs too that if you don't know it well enough, you end up in a chorus loop. Like it just goes. It just goes and it can go on infinitely. Yeah. If you don't get into Danny Boy, then you're just stuck in there.

But I always remember pissing the night away. Are you familiar with that band at all, Nick? No, not even a little. Do you know anything about Chumbawamba? Not even a little. Interesting history of that band. They're like an anarchist punk band. What?

Yeah, they came from a band called Conflict. It was members from a band called Conflict. It was members from a band called Conflict. And yeah. They took a turn. That seems crazy. Yeah, it was a weird deal. I think they were setting out to create a pop. Do you know why they did it?

I remember there's a reason. They were either trying to get rich or they were trying to be clever or something. I'm sure it was both. Yeah. You got to have something to fund your like your marxism i suppose yeah um here's the lights on yeah yeah i mean so there's there's that um okay i think that's a great one my pick is this is not necessarily the type of music that I was listening to a lot of in 1998, but I think this is probably one of my favorite songs now.

And it's, uh, nobody does it better by Nate dog. All right. Oh, it's so good. Peace. I think Nate dog was underrated in everything that he did.

Rest in peace. Nate dog fucking rules. I think Nate Dog was underrated in everything that he did. Rest in peace. Nate Dog fucking rules. I love that song. I think that absolutely belongs on this playlist. Love it. 100%. Yeah. It's so good.

I bought the entire, it's not a, I don't think a 98 song. I bought the entire, the Transporter movie soundtrack because of a Nate dog song. It was fantastic. Oh yeah. Yeah. I don't remember what the song title is like. I got game cause the game was given to me. Bum,

bum, bum, love for the ghetto down for whatever. I don't remember anything else, but I, the fucking, I would play that on. That's enough.

It's called. I got love got love uh fantastic yeah uh i like nate dog because uh his logo also is like this like rabbit that wears a hat and is like g'd out i love i love the g funk i love the g funk rabbit thank you nate Nate dog. Uh, now are we doing Jeff or are we doing Gavin? How does an egg go? I don't remember. Yeah. I don't know which G I am in the egg. I think it goes Jeff Gavin.

I think it goes Jeff Gavin. Sounds good. Uh, I guess I'm up then. Uh, okay. So the first song I'm picking, Eric, I guess you're writing these down or something. I am. I'm, I'm keeping, I'm keeping a copy of them right here in the link I'm sending. Just so you know, I sent a link to my Punk Summer of 98 playlist that I created there.

So you can find the songs there. We won't get to all those songs, obviously. Okay. The first song I'm going to pick is from one of my favorite bands of all time. This is back summer of 1998. I was 22, 23 years old. this is back summer of 1998. I was 22, 23 years old.

This is when I was as obnoxiously into punk as humanly possible from about 15 until like maybe 28 or 29. I was militant and annoying about it. And I, I ignored all other forms of music to my own detriment. I have learned later in life. I really wish that I hadn't been such a little prick about it all. But luckily, 1998 was one of the best years of punk music in my lifetime.

So the first song I'm picking is Five Lessons Learned by the Swingin' Utters. Nice. From their album, Five Lessons Learned. It is a fucking banger from start to finish. Might be the best song that you'll hear on this whole playlist. And interesting thing about Swingin' Utters, the band, they're from California, they're from San Francisco.

The band used to be called Johnny P-Bucks and the Swingin' Utters, but they truncated that name because Swingin' Utters is cooler. And the reason they came up with that name is because the lead singer, Johnny Bunnell, who I interviewed one time for one of my punk scenes,

one night in San Francisco when they were hanging out after a show, before they were in the band, he got really drunk and pissed himself. And then they went to Taco Bell, and when he pulled his money out, his money was covered in his piss, and he had to pay for the Taco Bell with piss-covered money.

So they gave him the nickname Johnny P-Bucks, and then they started the band. There you go. Five Lessons Learned by the Swingin' Hunters. Fantastic song. Entire album is a banger, but that's the best song on it. That's good. I like that. Gavin?

For me, Summer of 98 was ruled by Fatboy Slim. It was probably my first introduction to music that had samples of other people's music. I assume very late to that so rockefeller skank fat boy slim uh what i think that's a good pick yeah it's a great pick very 98 right about now yeah so my relationship with rockefeller skank is it was one of the like title tracks to a fifa game i had on the ps1 and it was my favorite song

on that game and as part of this exercise like listening to the top 100 uh listed songs it's on there i listened to it i've had the lyrics wrong my entire life my entire life i thought the lyrics were right about now the funk so rubber and that has been what i thought up until like two weeks ago when i re-listened to this and learned it's funk soul brother funk soul brother the funk so rubber i thought it was the funk so rubber right about if you've ever listened to the original sample of that it's just it's just like some guy introing his track. I don't know how he ever found that and thought that would make a great sample.

It's so obscure. It might be one of his most obscure samples of all time. That's awesome. It's a good one. I like it. Come back around, Andrew. I'm going for another. I have no other points of reference for this person's music,

but as part of the discovery of this process, I listened to Paper by Queen Latifah for the first time. And that song is a fucking banger. That's a great song. It's essentially a do-over of Heard It Through the Grapevine. It takes all of it, but there's some lyrical changes to it. Just a fucking banger of a song. Really liked it. Really enjoyed it. charted in the summer 98 not that that's important but uh it made me want to explore queen latifah's music which is something that i have never had any interest in

checking out just not on my radar i wonder if she's underrated as a musician huh yeah i don't know if i'm just out of the scene i feel like she's not rated at all at this point but like i'm pretty disconnected so uh yeah i i was really impressed by that song and i enjoyed it way more than i assumed i would going into it okay i like it nick so this is a song that i feel like was everywhere and again you know you could just flip through the radio and find it on whatever pop station or whatever it was playing on. And it's also been featured in a lot of car ads over the years. So anytime it pops back up, it's going to be on your mind again. And it's also one of those memefied songs.

So, it's been one week by Barenaked Ladies. From our dear friends, the Barenaked Ladies. That's very funny chickadee china that's a good one though that's a that's a very good that's a very good pick because man again inescapable right even to this day that song just makes you stand up like if i'm lounging around i hear that i'm just like oh here we go yep yeah i'm just like getting up to like be a part of that i love it man that is a that is a sound a song in a band that's very near and dear to rooster teeth and their history that's that's a great choice captain dynamic captain yeah yeah captain flowers yeah captain flowers um the only

dude i know who's crashed a plane and walked away from it. That's awesome. He once sung my name into one of his songs and it's still probably the coolest thing that's ever happened to me in my life. Oh, absolutely. Let's see. So I go next. Really different from my first pick, but this was very instrumental in what music I would listen to for the next 10 years, whatever.

San Francisco by Alkaline Trio. Alkaline Trio, a punk band that had an album in 1998 called God Damn It that I listened to. It's their best album. Endlessly. called god damn it that uh is their best album endlessly i mean just if you could wear a hole in a cd it would be this it was half an hour long the album is half an hour long and it would end and i would just go play it again eric doesn't matter yeah eric i have three songs from that album on my playlist yeah what what what songs did, I do. What songs did you pick? I threw Cringe, Clavicle, and my personal favorite, Where Did It Go?

Sorry about that. The last song on the album. Great. All great songs. I wanted something that would fit in a playlist that was a little more up. So I think San Francisco really fits. Clavicle, I think, is one of my favorite songs by that band. If you don't know Alkaline Trio and you're older now,

you probably don't need to go back and listen to it. I think you're going to be like, oh, this sounds like a little bit dated. And it does. But just know that when Blink-182 needed someone to fill in and they went with matt skiba it is like all of my worlds colliding in one band and it was if i could have been 12 and seeing that i would have lost my fucking mind it was pretty insane it was pretty magic matt's keep is magic such a phenomenal singer such an interesting dude him him and dan adriano the other guy

that sings in alkaline trio as well great great stuff i really alkaline trio god damn it's still one that uh i i hold very near and dear so that's my pick uh okay so that's eric is it my turn now yeah yeah now it's all right i i have a bunch of alkaline trio that stuff i want to add to that but i'll just wait till i pull them up got it um the next song i'm gonna go with uh is it's up there for the second best song uh on my playlist here it's every time it's one of those songs that every time you hear it you start dancing and you start moving no matter no matter uh where you are it's a song by a band a hardcore band out of virginia called a veil who is a very, very,

very beloved and respected band and this was their biggest album to date. It was their most melodic album to date and it's called Over the James and the song they released was called Deepwood and if you listen to it, it'll be stuck in your head for the rest of your fucking life. It is a phenomenal ass-kicking song

and one of the things that I always liked, I thought that was interesting about Avail, because I'm going to give you a little factoid about each band or whatever, as long as I have one. They're from Virginia. I was from Alabama. I grew up hating being from Alabama. Hating being an Alabamian. You know that.

I make fun of it all the time. I hate it. I got out of there as soon as I could. And I was always bummed about that. I looked at other people that were proud of where they were from. And I always kind of hated being from the South. I joined the Army, being from the South, and the Army was not a cool thing.

I got shit on a lot for it, especially in the 90s. And so I really tried my best early on to try to eschew the Southern part out of me. Then I discovered Avail, and they are so militantly proud of being from Virginia and

being from the South that it made me look at Alabama in a totally different way. And I thought if they can be proud of Virginia and be proud of where they're from, I can find stuff about Alabama that I like that I can be proud of, too. It's okay to be some dumb redneck from the South. And so I tried, and it turns out there's nothing there. I couldn't find anything, And so I tried and turns out there's nothing there. Uh, I couldn't find anything, but I appreciate that they're happy about being from Virginia. I,

I really, they, they, they emboldened me to find that in Alabama and it just wasn't there. Uh, but I tried. Great pick. I think very cool.

Like Jeff, if this is for no one else, you're really, you're scratching an itch for me when you're, when you're throwing this stuff out there. Yeah. I really appreciate this information as somebody who doesn't like just a different era of music for me yeah sure definitely uh gavin uh this one isn't on this list but i remember it being all over the radio it is uh this called feel it which was based on can you feel it by jackson five it was that it was that song mixed with some other song um so it's just basically the the main melody of the jackson

five song with the lyrics uh what's she gonna look like with a chimney on her and i always remember thinking like what does that mean it just it just repeats it firstly it just takes ages for the drop to happen. And then it just repeats, what's she going to look like with a chimney on her? So I looked up where that sound pause from. Apparently, it's from another song where one of the lyrics is, I want to drop a house on that bitch. So I guess they want to find out what some woman would look like with a chimney on her. This is the song with the bells.

It's the bells, yeah. This is the song with the bells. It's the bells. Yeah. This is the song with the bells in it. I looked it up and it's that it's done. Done. Done. Yeah. Done.

Done. Done. Those bells that like, oh man, I remember this. Yeah. Just endlessly looping. But I mean, those bells in the Jackson's song. Yeah. Wow, man.

Yep. That was, that was an everywhere one that's fun uh that's good good pick uh andrew back to you going with a classic from one of my favorite uh groups intergalactic by the beastie boys nice Nice. Great pick. Yeah. Great. Like whenever you hear it like it just it

pumps me up. It's a great song. The video is awesome for it. Like there's so many great just Beastie Boy videos in general. Like what a classic

group. What a great song. That's that's Hello Nasty. Is that that album? No. It's intergalactic. i think it's on uh no is it hello nasty i gotta look it up now uh yes it is it is okay yes it's a big ass album

do you know where they got the name hello nasty from no no so they a, I don't know if they still do, but they, uh, they owned a clothing shop in New York city for a while in one of the boroughs. And it was like, uh, it was back when, uh,

when, uh, like people were really, really first starting to get into, um, monetizing shit from Goodwill and like thrifting and vintage was starting to come up in like, in like the young culture.

And so they had, uh, a store and I think it was called nasty to come up in the young culture. And so they had a store, and I think it was called Nasty, or maybe that was the address. But anyway, anytime the phone would ring, the girl behind the counter, she would answer,

Hello, Nasty, and they thought that was really funny. That's how they answered the phone. I had no idea. And so they named the album that. That rules. If this is on the list, then the song that I would pick from this album would be body moving i think so good song also 3m season 1 dj incredible both incredible songs that are

on hello nasty also but i think intergalactic is definitely the strongest pick yeah in the whole thing um not intergalactic specific but just like a thing for people to check out the beastie boys watch their live performance of check it out oh yeah on letterman so fucking cool it's like a one shot where they start from the new york subway and then walk to letterman and then oh no way performance live that sounds awesome awesome yep if you if you can if you're also if you're looking that up you should look up the music video for three MCs and one DJ, because the whole first, before the song starts at one minute and 40 seconds in or whatever, it is the Beastie Boys holding a pose downstairs and just a camera walking to get to them. And then the music

video starts. It is a minute and a half of nothing. It's fantastic. It's so cool. And then after you do that, listen to the entire album, Paul's Boutique. It is the most overlooked Beastie Boys album because it was their follow-up to License to Ill. And it was before they came in before Check Your Head,

which was another huge one. It was kind of in a weird place, but it is one of the most, it couldn't be made today because they sampled more music. It was like a girl talk album. Yeah. They sampled so much music in there

before sampling became an issue. And so they literally couldn't make the songs today. The licensing would be insane, but it is a brilliant, brilliant album from start to finish and it doesn't get enough respect. It's really good. It's produced by the Dust Brothers

and it has so many samples doesn't get enough respect. It's really good. It's produced by the Dust Brothers. Yeah. And it has so many samples and so many different songs. And what a cool thing from a band that didn't want to be rappers but wanted to be a hardcore band. Yeah. Straight.

Fucking Shake Your Rump, best Beastie Boys song ever. Wow. Such a great song. It's a. Wow. Such a great song. It's a great song. Such a great song. You listen to it now, it is just fun for every, just all the way through.

You can't stop smiling when you listen to it. It's very, very good. Great pick, Andrew. Nick. You know, this is another one of those songs that I feel like gets stuck in your head, but this is also one that, it sneaks past you when you're younger.

Like I said, I was about 10 when this came out. I don't know even into my teenage years stuck in your head but this is also one that it sneaks past you when you're younger like i said this i was about 10 when this came out and i don't know even into my teenage years that i caught kind of the filthiness of the song semi-charmed life by third eyed blind yeah in fact i was talking to my wife the other day and she was like did you know what that song's about and i said no and then she like read the lyrics to me i was just reading through them one of them is like doing crystal meth will lift you up until you break yeah and there's a whole line about like when she comes over and is going down on him it's like what that's in a pop song from when i was 10 and i loved it what's wrong with me um semi-charmed life great song great 90s pop song you are taking a pick

away from me because i was i was absolutely going to go with um man there's so many choices on that album oh yeah burning man london motorcycle drive-by god of wine how's it gonna be the whole that's probably my fave one of my favorite 90s albums wow um it is probably i think probably one of the best produced albums in the 90s to get that performance out of that band that had such a volatile singer songwriter who like really couldn't get anything else. Well, they had another album, but I think one or two singles off of it. To have the success that that album had, that kind of production and that kind of maestro that it takes to get something like that out of that band is, I think, really unrecognized. And if you can, put that album on front to back,

but if you can find a physical copy of it, because the copy that you get on iTunes or Spotify or whatever is a remixed version and not the original version that you would hear. I hate it. I, it is, there are, there are changes to graduate that I don't like.

There are changes to so many of the songs like losing a whole year sounds different. And it's really a bummer. It's really, really, really a bummer. But good. Excellent pick. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent pick, Nick.

I love it. It was a good year, man. Yeah, it was. Great song. Maybe I don't know if it's the number one song about doing crystal meth, but it might be up there. It's up there.

Draft idea. Yeah. My pick is Ghetto Superstar by Proz. Oh, so good. It is a, it's a great song maya has a great feature on it i think pros is the weakest part of the song i think the best part of the song is odb and if you don't know the story behind the song this makes it even better odb is not supposed to be on that track. This is for the Bullworth soundtrack. It is on Praz's. This is Praz. He is putting this out. Praz is from the Fugees. This is his solo effort.

He's doing the song with Maya. ODB is supposed to be recording stuff for RZA in New York, but he happens to be in LA and walks into the studio. They, he hears the beat. He's fucked up. They don't know what he's on. He's drunk. He's something. He hears the beat and he likes it.

And they go, do you want to just be on this? So he just steps up and lays down his verse. It fucking rules. That song is a massive hit. And then ODB is everywhere everywhere everywhere in that time i love old dirty bastards so fucking much he is the coolest he has given us so many moments but uh I need to share this with you if I can. This is ODB. Let me share my screen.

We won't be able to put this in the video, but I do want you guys to be able to see and hear this because this is on the end of them promoting this song, and this is from MTV 1998. Okay. Here it is. That's so good. Wow. What are you going to do

to give back to the community? Points to himself. Nothing. It is such a tragedy that that dude died. Ob is the greatest of all time and um to put it to put a bow on this uh pros was found guilty of 10 counts of criminal conspiracy in uh criminal conspiracy and campaign finance charges so um if if you ever want to go down the odb rabbit hole he had some some phenomenal Howard Stern appearances over the years.

Just absolutely classics. The dude changed his name from Old Dirty Bastard to Big Baby Jesus. And then after that, he changed his name to Dirt McGirt. And he had like 13 kids. He was truly one of a kind.

Wu-Tang still tours and Young Dirty Bastard, one of O kind uh uh wu-tang still tours and young dirty bastard uh one of odb's kids fills in for him for all of his parts and i saw them live and he's so fucking good that's awesome young dirty bastard rules anyway that's a very long-winded story i'm sorry but that's my pick i love odb okay that's a great pick eric Thank you. I guess I am up next. So I'm going to continue on with... We were speaking about Sweden earlier. This is another Swedish band.

And this was a really important album in the world of punk rock and kind of a misunderstood album. This is... I'm going to pick... It's not the best song from the album, but it's the most popular song and it's the one you'll recognize and it's a phenomenal song. I'm going to pick the song new noise by the band refused the thing about this album it came out in 1998 they were a hardcore band from sweden

that was really popular uh they had some victory releases that were really good and they created this album called the shape of punk to come which is a pretty ballsy album title. They were basically throwing down the gauntlet and saying we are now, we are going to create the sound that punk will become going forward. And they released this album. This album, one of the best albums ever made.

I truly believe that. When it came out, it got slammed by negative reviews and bad reviews for about the first three weeks it came out. The band broke up because of the reviews. They released what became, and by the way, about six months later, it became acknowledged that this is one of the best albums of all time, and it was the shape of Punk to Come. If you listen to that album through the entirety, you're going to recognize so much of what punk and music and that kind of sound turned into. They were right. They really, with that one album, turned that scene on its head and reinvented punk

rock. So nobody got it yet? They didn't. They got negative reviews for like three weeks. They were brutally depressed, right? Because it was so different from the work that they had done before and they were really going out on a limb and it got panned and so they broke up and that was it then that album became one of the most popular albums of the era and of that and of punk and so 16 years later they got back together and played a reunion show and they didn't realize how popular they were yeah because they they were so depressed and bummed out by it so now they're back I think. I actually got to see them play at Fun Fun Fun Fest in, I think, 2016. And it was one of the, maybe the best show

I've ever seen. One of the best albums of all time. Phenomenal song. New noise by The Refused. They made a bold statement when they said they were going to change punk rock, and they did. Unfortunately, it cost them their band. Was that who you went to see when I went and watched Girl Talk? Yeah, it was one of the most difficult decisions i've had to make because girl talk was playing on one stage and

refuse were playing on another stage and i was already planning to go to sweden to see them locally in sweden when i found out they're back together but then they played austin and so i went and uh girl refused was better than girl talk but girl talk was very good too it was it was it was difficult to have to run back and forth between the two shows. The thing that I always thought about with the new noise, uh, music video is that that's, it's the,

it's, you know, the shape of, uh, the punk to come and all that stuff. Every band ripped off this look. Yeah. Four years later.

It is crazy how this is just that's what thursday and taking back sunday and every band just looked like the way that refuse looked in 1998 it probably the most influential one of the three or four most influential punk bands yeah uh our albums of all time i would put op ivy up there with that as well. We'd just change the scene forever after that album came out. Gavin? In the summer of 98, a lot of my time was taken up by this

thing. Yeah, oh boy, I know where we're going, baby. I know what you're doing. That boy is coming home, baby. Three Lions, the 1998 version. Obviously, it was originally written for the euros in 96 uh featuring different lyrics that they changed for the 98 version i think one of the lyrics from

the 96 version was 30 years of hurt because england haven't won the world cup since 1966 and then i think last year comedians uh frank skinner and david baddiel who made the song with the lightning seeds released a new 2022 version which featured the lyrics 56 years of her which i thought was very funny oh that is that's great that's great as uh that's awesome the male team still has not won since 1966 but that thing that song was bumping through the houses in the summer of 98 that's hilarious what a pick that's a great that's a very funny pick i like that six years um andrew yes your this is such a weird follow-up to this because when i think of like music i listened to as a kid that lived within that space exclusively spice girls and the other

artist that comes to mind is ricky martin running through the house listening to Ricky Martin I actually thought that this is what Gavin was going to pick because I'm going with the cup of life by Ricky Martin which was the theme to the France 98 World Cup it was the song for the World Cup of that year there's some real bangers for World Cup songs something I learned in like I was like wow every World Cup song I can think of is a banger so i was looking at the list they introduced mascot songs in like 2012 or whatever like 2012 2014 in that era which i think is fucking hilarious to have a song dedicated to the mascot of that world cup uh it was a pitbull song which is even better but more focused on my pick ricky martin to me is like such a staple of the 90s.

His music was just so much fun to listen to running around the house. Great song and absolute banger. The Cup of Life. I love it. Awesome. I have a special place in my heart because Mega 64. 100th podcast and then really like subsequent every 100 podcasts. It would just be instead

of an episode they would just dance to cup of life and release that i don't know why that's the funniest song but it's the funniest song that's very good uh nick so before we started recording jeff dropped a link in our discord about uh highly empathic people who have a unique view of music and just like how they react to it and everything and so we were talking about how like we both i think we both kind of feel that jeff and i and um yeah this is the song that i feel like it was the first song that it really like i don't know i had like an emotional like almost response to it like i i don't know like every time i hear it i still get like kind of the goosebumps like almost a little bit sad or like i don't know kind of a weird nostalgia like uh the song though is as iris by the goo goo dolls oh yeah and there's something i don't know like it's a power ballad but there

are moments where it's like kind of sweet and slow and it's like oh you know it just has that feel to it of just being really somber if that's the right way to put it but i don't know it just has that feel to it of just being really somber if that's the right way to put it but i don't know it just sticks with me and every time i hear it i'm like oh yeah i gotta turn this up that's a huge song too yeah yeah absolutely that was really that was a big i felt like it was everywhere inescapable right in that time uh still kind of is i feel like yeah i definitely feel like you hear that. You could definitely hear that song a lot. I feel like Goo Goo Dolls have been around for a very, very, very long time.

Like got popular in like the late 90s, but we're like around in like the 80s. Yeah, I think so, too. That album also that year also had a bunch of songs that were really sad, like Slide. They had a lot of songs on there. You're like, oh, this is some really messed up stuff. Yeah. This is a good one. Good pick.

Thank you. I am going in a different direction from my last picks, where so far I've chosen a lot of hip hop and some punk stuff or whatever. where so far I've chosen a lot of hip hop and some punk stuff or whatever. This song I feel like is a very, it's weird that it came out when it did because it was recorded so long before, but my pick is a sweetest thing by you too. It was recorded in 80. When joshua tree come out 86 87 uh and then was released in like 98 uh yeah very weird right and uh bono wrote it as an apology to his wife. And. Was he just sitting on it?

It is. It is a song that. Was very weird. That it never really came out. And then released in 98. Huge song. And. It to me. Marks the end.

I've had a lot of conversations. With like Shane. At work. About this time in music. Because this is right when alternative starts going away and like on the radio and you get instead this rise of adult contemporary and that's like one headlight by uh what uh what's jacob dylan's band the wallflowers and you get like Sweetest Thing

and you get Sheryl Crow's stuff. There's just like this turn in music and Sweetest Thing is a really big thing. It's like VH1 takes over. That's how this song is for me. But I think it's a great U2 song because it's, I mean, recorded during Joshua Tree sessions,

which are probably some of their best stuff. So big U2 fan. I think it's a great song. All right. That's an awesome pick. Fantastic. I guess I'm up. Yep.

The next band I'm going to pick is a band that has a near, has a very special place in my heart because I was lucky enough to be in New Jersey, living in New Jersey in 97, 98, when all of like this explosion of really good punk was happening. And so I got to go to a ton of shows up at the Knitting Factory and at the Coney Island High RIP in New York City. I got to see a ton of great shows in St. Mark's Place and in that scene. And one of the bands that played there all the time, who was really, really catching fire in the moment and becoming

everybody's favorite band. We had no idea how big they were going to get was this band from Massachusetts called the Dropkick Murphys. And I was really, really fortunate enough to see them with their original singer, Mike McCulgan, before he left. He left after their first big album and was replaced by a guy named Al Barr, who is still the lead singer. He's very good. And if you watch the Dropkick Murphys now, that's what you're seeing. But the original Dropkick Murphys was a little less Irish and a little more street punk. And so I'm picking a very popular song called Barroom Hero from their first big album with the original singer that is just... It's an anthem. That band, man. That's a still going strong.

Yeah, classic. Also, I'll say Ken Casey, one of the members of the band is one of the coolest dudes on Earth. And he recently went viral because he gave an anti-MAGA speech at a concert. It was one of the coolest

fucking things I've ever seen. That's great. Awesome. Yeah, good pick. I think that's a I think Dropkick Murphys have a lot to say and they've been having

a lot to say for a long time yeah yeah have they found their wooden leg yet are they still looking cool yeah i think they're still looking they're on the search uh gavin uh this is another thing that i could not escape it was playing everywhere i'm not sure if it ever made it to the US. It was a song called Horny, or apparently Horny 98. What? The lyrics just went, I'm horny, horny, horny, horny. And it did that over and over again

to some trumpets. I've never heard this. What the fuck are you talking about? Literally inescapable. was playing everywhere oh my god i'm gonna drop a youtube link for us because we don't know what this is what what the fuck moose tea featuring hot and juicy horny 98 and it's just a guy in a bunny suit outside of a grocery store is the thumbnail.

Yeah, skip to like 50 seconds for the chorus. Okay. What the fuck is going on? What the fuck is going on? 1998's worldwide smash hit is what it says. Jeff Butts? I wonder if she ever got late yeah i think she was in heat oh my god so horny i'm horny insane horny horny

i like that it's called horny 98 oh man does she sing it 98 times oh she might have um andrew um another one yeah no this is i'm gonna say this is my last pick because i've got a lot of other things but this is the last one i feel strongly about and uh maybe it's just like a bias for like the time i grew up in obviously like that's a very impactful thing for like how you perceive music I view like the 90s and like the boy band era of music to be like the best junk food period of music and I say that lovingly in the sense of like these are manufactured songs designed in every way and have nothing like natural in them, but they are so easy to listen to. They're such an earworm.

They're so catchy. I am going with one. The lights go out by five. I have nothing really impactful to say about five as a group. Didn't really know a lot about them before starting this process but the chorus of that song has been stuck in my head since i listened to it it's such a just it i would say it's a banger and i just have such a love of this era of like pop music five like the bridge boy band five yes yes that is that is who he's talking about i had no idea that was an international

band to be honest yeah uh it i will say it wasn't uh you kind of heard the song in the u.s a little bit uh but it was not wow yeah let's see billboard top 100 it was number peak position number 10 but i mean in canada it also reached number 10 why were you why do you have an affection for this? Wow. Why do I have an affection for it? Yeah. How funny. I just, I, I just, yeah, it's something I listened to as part of this process and it

just got stuck in my head. And like the next day I woke up and the first thing in my brain was when the lights go out and much like Gavin was saying, I don't know any other part of that song. So it's just a loop in my brain of this that over and over and over again that's wow that's so crazy so that is my last submission I have other songs on this list maybe

at the end I'd like to make an honorable mention of just like there's a song that made my list purely on some of the lyrics of it being ridiculous but that is my last official submission okay I like it uh nick uh you know i'll make this my last official submission too i you know i got a couple others that we can do like honorable mention on but uh this is a song that actually i heard the other day like i was

just flipping through the radio stations here in town and i you know i don't do that often anymore we have podcasts and things to listen to and i happened to just pop over and i caught inside out by eve six which came out in may of 1998 and it's just a song that gets stuck in your head right from the very beginning you know it's also one of the songs where i didn't realize when it came out like i thought it came out much later because i spoke to my wife and she's like oh yeah that was from 98 i was like what get out of here oh yeah i like i had that cd i remember i don't know why i had that cd it's not like i really liked it that much but uh definitely that was a big one that was a really big one um really fun uh you know alternative song yeah uh i have other ones but i i i'm to go with these guys. I'm going to say this is going to be my last pick for this playlist.

1998 was definitely a lot of radio stuff for me. And I think this was probably where I developed a love for music that my wife hates because she doesn't. my wife hates because she doesn't i like really like singers with like a very like affected voice uh listen to like a lot of music like hot snakes and stuff like this where it's like very it's crunchy it's different like it just different vocals and everything uh my pick my last pick here is going to be uh never there by cake and uh she can't stand this band because this guy talk sings and it's not it's just like it's not it's hardly even music i love cake cake i think it's a great band uh there are other songs that i like more on this album but i think never there is probably the biggest hit from the album that uh you could put on sort of anywhere and people will be like oh yeah it starts with like the phone like dial tone

and him talking singing and it's such every time i hear on the radio it's such just like a oh i love this i fucking love this thing but if you're gonna listen to that album, I think Mexico is a better song. But I'm not going to put it on this playlist. I'm going to put Never There by Cake. I only have one Cake song, and it's the one from me, myself, and Irene. It's like whistling along to it, and then he sucks on the woman's tit for a little bit. What the fuck? Are you?

You don't see that movie? I don't remember that at all. Hey. Yeah. I feel like I remember that. And he has the little milk mustache. Yeah. Gavin went from horny 98

to sucking on a tit. I'll say this. Me, myself, and Irene is better than Something About Mary. Yeah, I agree and Irene is better than something about Mary. Yeah, I agree with that. It's a bit farrelly. Yeah. Okay, so go to Jeff. Okay, so these are last picks? Yeah, sure. Okay, sure.

I had a bunch more, obviously. Maybe I can do like a list of bands I didn't get to at the end, but because this is the last pick, I'm going to pick the band that I was going to pick last. I could have put them first. I probably should have. Because this is probably the most important, sounds silly to say,

but probably the most important album of my life for some personal reasons. In early 1998, when I was living in New Jersey, I was running, I was, Rooster Teeth started for me a lot earlier than Rooster Teeth. I was running an online punk zine, uh, in the, in the nineties. And I, uh, I was pretty deep into it. I was doing lots of interviews with bands. I was doing lots of album reviews. I had like a staff of like stringers that would submit reviews. I was getting so many free records in, I was able to give them out to friends so they could do

reviews. Like I had a little empire going and, empire going. And I kept hearing about this local band from New Jersey that was getting a lot of heat. And so I reached out to them. And I asked if I could interview them. And I went and I had coffee and interviewed them one night. And we hit it off. And the trumpet player, he said, Hey, why don't you come just sit in at our practice tomorrow? And I was like, Why would I do that? I don't play music. And he goes, hey, why don't you come just sit in at our practice tomorrow? And I was like, why would I do that? I don't play music. And he goes, just come hang out with us. And so I did. And I went and I sat and I watched them play in a basement practice. And then after the end, I was shooting the shit with them. And they came to me and they said, listen, man, we really like

you. We felt like we clicked with you immediately. You seem like a really good dude. Would you like to be, this is out of left field, but would you like to be our roadie? And I said, absolutely. And from that moment on, I was the roadie of a band called Catch-22. I went on one national tour with them. I was there when their lead singer left the band. I was a part of that whole thing. I got to be at ground floor when a truly phenomenal, talented band was becoming the thing that they would become and then also going through the pains of band member changes and stuff. They released an album called K's B Nights.

I could pick any song off of K's B Nights because they're all phenomenal, but I'm just going to pick, at random, 9mm and a three-piece suit by Catch-22. I still, to this day, love them dearly and still consider most of them to be really close friends. And it's a truly awesome Scott Punk album, even if you don't like Scott Punk.

That's awesome. Written by a bunch of 16 and 17-year-old kids. Wow. Keep that in mind when you listen to this album. That's crazy. It's really nuts when you look at music and you realize it's just written by everyone that's like 23. Yeah.

And you're like, wow, they're like really influencing the world at 23 years old. Yeah. It's nuts. Absolutely. Great pick. Thank you. I think there's a lot of, I think you have a lot of sentimental reasons for choosing that, but I also think that great, great, great shoot.

Like, awesome choice. Yeah. Just a fantastic bunch of guys fantastic album and uh you know a bunch of side bands have spun off uh and they're all good speaking of awesome choice here isn't one uh it is vindaloo by fat les another football banger um that i think was only topped by the three lions song uh it's sort of like a military beat some bloke walking down the street uh with lyrics such as something like could i interest you please in a slice of cheddar cheese and then they just start singing vindaloo vindaloo and uh it's still sung at football games to this

very day you that sounds like a very Gavin song. You were very influenced by like football music, yeah? Like that was just like a big part of your life? Like are you like a huge football fan? Not the biggest football fan in general, but you're just so exposed to it when your family likes football

and when everyone stops everything they're doing to watch England play in the world cup. Very interesting. Very interesting. Um, these are, this is a great playlist.

This is, it's crazy. It's all over the place, but in a way where if you put these on random and they came up, you would be like, Oh fuck. Yeah. Oh fuck.

Yeah. Like, I think you'd go back to back and be like, Oh, these are pretty nuts. Um, I honestly feel bad that some of my picks are ruining this playlist but this is honestly this is honestly the shit i was listening to no that's great this is great like because it you need stuff with different tempos and different like you need to be if everything's the same

i think for a playlist it starts getting really sort of like muddy and you don't hear the songs. But if Three Lions by Lightning Seeds comes on and then the next song is Five Lessons Learned by Sweet Utters and then Iris by Goo Goo Dolls plays and then it's Cup of Life by Ricky Martin martin you're gonna hear every one of those songs oh absolutely you're gonna hear every one of those songs i think it's great i think me and me mom and me dad and me gran were off to waterloo me and me mom me dad and me gran and a bucket of vindaloo what i love so much about this and i think it shows in like some of the other like draft stuff we've done as we all grew up at different times in different places and it's so reflect like this playlist is such a great capturing of like what was specifically important to us in the different time periods and cultures that we grew up in i think it's awesome i love this playlist

i agree um do we want it so that's going to be a playlist that we put together for you guys and we'll we'll release that for everyone um but do anyone want to talk about some stuff that didn't quite make the list or stuff like honorable mentions jeff i'm sure you have 30 i'll just name bands i'm just gonna go i had honorable mention i was gonna do okay fm doa by a band called dillager 4 i I was going to do Gotta Go by Agnostic Front. A fantastic song called History of a Boring Town by Less Than Jake, which explains what it was like to grow up in Alabama. That's a great one. Then 88 Fingers Louie,

and one of my favorite songs of all time, Sweet Avenue by Jets to Brazil. That's so... Is that Orange Rhyming Dictionary? Yes, that is Orange Rhyming Dictionary. Was that 1998? 1998, yeah. And it's such a phenomenal song. And then there was a Lagwagon album

that came out that year too. It was a lot of good stuff. But I'm really happy with the choices that made it in. Yeah. I'll throw out Party My House Be There by MXPX from Slowly Going the Way of the Buffalo is one that didn't make my list.

It's a little too sugary sweet for me to really put on the list but i liked it a lot um uh uh how about i think i'm paranoid by garbage i think it was a huge song that was that was i mean that was just a i really like that one uh i wanted to put neutral milk hotel but it was like just not really a band that i care for but what would you put on there king of king of carrot flowers like i i was i was poking around the album and going like i like these i don't love these that's just how i oh really oh yeah in the airplane over the sea, King of and King of Carrot Flowers are so fucking good. I like it. I don't love it.

You get what you give by new radicals is such a great one hit wonder to me. And then last one hit wonder, the last one that I wanted to put on, but I didn't, was The Way by Fastball. Apparently an Austin band. Yeah, they were an Austin band. Had no idea. Had no idea. Had no idea. Those are my picks. Honorable mentions, anyone else? I have one

that is silly. It's not so... There was discussion of figuring out what would be the best format for doing this at one point. It was going to be a rank debate, like the movie one. I was trying to figure out what my top 15 songs are. When I was doing that, I was trying to like figure out what my top 15 songs are. And so when I was doing that,

I was trying to evaluate different things. And, uh, I was, I was debating between, I discovered a song in this process by big punisher called still not a player. Oh,

and it has, that was, Oh, it sounds so good. As soon as it starts, like put a smile on my face of a chorus of still not a player, but I crush a lot. And I'm like, I'm just I'm laughing like I'm smiling.

I'm having a great time. And then it just definitively made my list when it goes into I love from butter pecan to blackberry molass. I don't discriminate. I regulate every shade of the ass. I was like, that's it. It's made. It's made the cut. This is a great song.

This is fantastic. He's so big pun rules. That song rules. Still not a player This is a great song. This is fantastic. He's so... Big pun, rules. That song, rules. Still Not A Player is such a good song. And that is my pick, and I think we've wrapped it up. Has everyone had one more to submit? I have one honorable mention.

I think it's technically 97, but it peaked to 98. Who cares? Remember Save Tonight? Oh, and Fight the Break of Dawn? Yeah, that's just sheerly because that's another song

where it's very difficult to get out of the chorus if you don't know the next part. It's just an endless loop. That was Eagle Eye Cherry? Is that who that was? Eagle Eye Cherry, yeah.

Andrew, Andrew, this was a fantastic This is great. So much fun. Whatever the fuck it is. This was a fantastic piece of content we just made. I had so much more. I didn't know

how either of these was going to go. I thought the film would go pretty well because it's easy to argue film. I thought this would be... I was a little more concerned because music's a little more nebulous, but your pivot to building the playlist together I think was brilliant and this ended up being so much fun and I would love to do it again absolutely i think this was so much fun it was

such a great process i'm so excited to now listen to this playlist and hear the things that you guys added as someone who hasn't heard a lot of these suggestions like i'm genuinely cannot wait for this to be put together so i can go through it as well in that play in that in that case we should really throw in the Airplane Over the Sea from Neutral Milk Hotel on the album because I think Andrew will like that song.

Yeah. Put it on the list. It is not on the list, but it would be an honorable mention. Yeah, honorable mention. In case one of the other songs can't fulfill its duties.

It can't fulfill its duties. It's the snake eyes of this. It's the first off the bench. Neutral Milk Hotel is kind of the snake eyes of music yeah yeah yeah uh this was really fun this was a cool walk down memory lane i wonder i like i wonder how these two pieces of of show are going to be received because i feel like when we are combative

at all people go like no i don't like when they fight but this was so just listing i like this thing and then somebody goes that's cool i like this thing this one was very bull drafted in vibes yeah sure oh it was really nice yeah yeah well and we we built something in it that then they can enjoy hopefully uh yeah if they enjoy the playlist so um again summer of 98 the last good summer 1998 the last good year yeah well we haven't done 2013 really good year for music yeah it was crazy for movies for music really pop culture touchdown 1998 it's a good one really makes you want to wear a backwards hat and go on a roller coaster that's just that's what it this all sounds like let's go see that's what i'm saying like it sounds like that you need to put that dr seuss hat back on

that's what started that's what started this whole thing oh dude that's you know what that needs to be the cover of this playlist yes it's the dr seuss hat absolutely yeah that is great it was millie getting a dr Seuss hat and me being jealous. That was at my birthday laser tag, wasn't it? It was. Exactly what it was. So funny. That's so funny that the genesis of this.

And Eric was only jealous because Millie was like, I got all these tickets. I don't know what to buy. And Eric goes, get that hat. You want that hat? And Millie's like, all right, I'll get the hat. And then he's like, damn it hat you want that hat and then he's like all right i'll get the hat then he's like damn it i want that hat and then i got the hat too it's such a cool hat it just it's so awesome oh uh that was great andrew you want to take us out you want to do a cool yeah fantastic uh yeah obviously this is the end of the summer 98 as you said the last good year according to you this is so much fun. I got to listen to you guys talk about picks, even though we have an amazing friendship.

It's just nice hearing your guys enthusiasm about things. And I feel like I learned more about your musical preferences. There may be more 98 content in the future. We will see. I hope you enjoyed this. If you have songs that you think should have been on the list, I'd love to see what those picks are as well. Somebody who just has kind of a hole in music. Anything you'd been on the list I'd love to see what those picks are as well somebody who just has kind of a hole in music

anything you'd like to add I'd love to see thank you guys so much for sharing your picks with you and having such great responses to all this I guess fuck 99 right like we're not going forward this is the end bye bye bye Gear it out. Bye-bye. Ah!