Fladseth - #214 - Ole Wold

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Instead of dragging the both of us down That was Kurt Nilsen's immortal classic Never Easy, you listen to it on the CD, this Friday afternoon, the day before or in the morning And in the studio I have Ole Wall Hi, nice to be here I have been complaining about Kurt Nilsen, and now we have to do it again Do people complain that you do it or that you don't? People complain that I do it.
Starting point is 00:00:27 But people have complained that I haven't done it the last time. I've been doing it. I came into the studio today and said that I miss Kurt Nielsen. Exactly. Not because it's the one we see more fun, but I think it's like... Okay, now I'm going to listen to this podcast as you expected Kurt Nielsen. Yes, I agree. No one is laughing at it. No one is laughing so hard at it. It's been crazy. You have a completely damaged head if you are laughing and enjoying every time that happens.
Starting point is 00:00:55 I promise you that they will be out there. I think so. But I have something to talk about you before. But was this something you had from the beginning? Yes, that's what it was. I. I don't think it was the start. How many episodes do you have now? We've gone over 200. Yes, that's quite a lot. Yes, it's been a few years now. How many years is it?
Starting point is 00:01:16 Shall we check it? Go back and see where... Did we talk about 2018? 2017? Yes, we talked about 2018 actually. It has been... I feel that It feels almost like an eternity. It's as long as I have lived in Oslo actually. And it's long now. And you're starting from the fag?
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yes. What kind of hell is that? What kind of place is that? It's... They have a... The 213 episode now. The 213, yes. Fauske, just to make it short,
Starting point is 00:01:47 in Helga they have a restaurant called Orlando, where one millionaire lives, Fauske, he has been to USA, picked up a lot of stash from USA, and made the restaurant of the times, it looks like you have been to the south states of USA. You were pissing seriously in the tuba when you were pissing on the piss. And they had a Halloween… Unrequited for the fag?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Yes, a little. It's a little too good for the fag, but it's also completely inside for Harry, mostly. And they had a Halloween competition on the weekend. And the winner was dressed up as a policeman. I don't know if that describes the place well enough, but I think that Halloween has come here, so the police uniform is quite spectacular. Geographically, did you say something about that? It is 6 miles to the region. I am actually going to the north. So you are going to Selby?
Starting point is 00:02:53 No, I think it's a small place. What's the place? It's Harstad, Stockmarknes. Stockmarknes, where I was born. That's where I was born. Nice city. Harstad, Barbasit in Harstad. It's Rødbrygge in Stokmarknes, and it's Merje in Lektes. And it's... no, it's not...
Starting point is 00:03:18 There are so many fjords and small things around there. A lot of detours, it takes a long time to get around that. But my question is, when you stand up in Oslo, because I have stood a bit in Oslo recently, I should say. You started to stand up, did you do that before or? A bit, a bit, but in autumn I found it a bit, I think it's very fun. But my opinion is that Oslo is very over saturated with stand up-up, especially white people in their 30s want to do stand-up. So people are a bit like... People in the crowd have an impression, humor-wise, and then I wonder how the district is, how the district is treated,
Starting point is 00:03:56 especially up there in North Norway, when you are a Oslo boy who is going to come and show a bit? No, you know what? I think that already... When I started with stand-up, it was still a... it was a regional thing where you... before digitalisation really kicked in, you had... in the north it was like that, in the Stavanger it was like that, and you had... there was a skepticism, especially in Oslo people, or people who came from other places, and were going to make fun of their territory. Did you have to do something about what you had done, considering the place you were? It was difficult to laugh, because I was very young and fresh, and I didn't have any experience, or it wasn't always that fun either. And very special, I came from the Oslo review, a lot of sketchy stuff. So it has a lot to do with that too. But I notice that it has been really talked about.
Starting point is 00:04:53 The stand-up genre has become very well known to many, especially the younger Garda, the half-young Garda, who watch a lot of stand-up specials on YouTube and Netflix and such. And we who work with Stand Up Norway are re-inspired by this classic American stand-up thing. There is not so much hocus pocus there, punch based, and like the stand-up was in Norway in the early days. Yes, a lot more jokes, I had the impression, but now the history is a big part of the stand-up, which I really appreciate. Yes, to use yourself more, to be bolder, you don't have to be very polite. So I feel that there is always a public around in Norway who knows what this is. And that wasn't always the case before. And when I started in 2012, I was a bit of a gold digger, but before that people didn't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:06:04 But the cabin did a lot of service. And it's completely right that they did that. The cabin is a springboard for many. I was pretty old when I got through it that way. But it helps a lot. Isn't it like that? Because some people say that a cabin before is a cabin after. And it's not long ago. it's just a few years ago. And I have also been in the same thing. But it was absolutely... It was hectic years.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Very fun. But I was... I feel I have gone degrees. But unfortunately I haven't seen you in the Orestenep yet. You are known to many through YouTube. You stand straight up and talk piss and give people in verbally. Yes, I did that for many years. I started with it in 2016. Then I worked for about 6 years on Self Føske. Life here on Føiske doesn't have much more to give me, but I started with YouTube, I think that was fun. Now I don't do YouTube anymore. I'm full 30 and have had children, have a good job.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I work at VGTV with the sports club, probably someone who has seen my name in that association. So now I have decided to stand up bit later. I like to do things. Try to find a way to have fun. Because I was in your soccer camp a few years ago. That's right. And it was connected with a small YouTube series we were going to make. I was going to meet other YouTubers and such. Yes. It was the first time we met.
Starting point is 00:07:44 It was. It was. So time we met. It was. So a lot has happened since you got your family and kids that time. That's right. You were standing there in the basement, and rigging up, and I thought, this is not the life I want. But then you had to have a man cave, and then you had to go to the godfather,
Starting point is 00:08:01 and then the dad had to go down and be flying off the track, and rig off camera. Yes. I have talked to my brother about it. If my daughter had decided one day to become a YouTuber, I would have said no. You shouldn't do that. Keep it under. Get a normal job. Keep it anonymous.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And then you can let your dad shine in the sun alone. That's what it's all about. You can't compete with that. I don't think any human being is designed to have thousands of people who might look up to you. No matter who knows you in some way. I don't think any human being has started with that, and come out of it as a better person, mentally. No, you are totally right. We can actually talk about this a bit. I have always been concerned about that. There was a documentary that went on Netflix, that was sent on Netflix a few years ago, which was about this digital bubble that has arisen when you meet old old Venus stars and such, as you said.
Starting point is 00:09:07 They have... because... Happiness is in a way... You can be deeply unhappy if you have been at the top, because then you have known that, and if you fall, and if you fall completely in the middle of your life, then it is completely damn worse than being in slums in Brazil. Right? HellRusvingen has held on to it.
Starting point is 00:09:30 A new series for Erlend and Steina. Four episodes. Yes, I love it. The first episode becomes super millionaire, because Ilandnøsk buys it, the app. And Erlend says at some point, I have known the kingdom, it has been taken away from me, I will never be so happy again, so now the rest of my life is cheap. It's very funny, what makes it so funny is that they take a well-known thing that we just talked about here, and then they do it in a way that is so pragmatic, and then it's like this, this is the hard fact, now I know the truth, and now I will never know But it's like this, I took it for granted, I'm sure a lot of people liked this, but it just went so far Because I hadn't thought about it before, and it was so open to me that this can only continue with unparalleled strength You have the strength to create bubbles where you don't have...
Starting point is 00:10:25 You don't get people who are comedians anymore in that idea universe. There are some who come quickly and then they come down again. Because it's all the time... Now we are talking about TikTok stars, influencers... They come quickly with the media. Because it's all... I see that they are very competitive. It's the hungry wolves that are waiting for the and then they get hotter and then the others fall down from the throne. And that's how it would be. Who would you say is at the top in Norway now, in terms of that?
Starting point is 00:11:09 In terms of YouTube stuff? Or let's take TikTok. People who want to start going a little bit viral and... That's why I like to... From 0 to 100 in a short time. That's what I would like to hear you talk about,, because I don't have that many points. I would like to say that it feels like those who are... what are the name of the show? The Power Girls or something like that. What?
Starting point is 00:11:32 It's like... what is it? Girls of Oslo? Girls of Oslo. Aslow? Aslow. Girls of Oslow. And then you have that Vestelin gang. Yes, because it's Oskar Vestelin I've thought of.
Starting point is 00:11:46 There you have Norway's... Aris Breivik, Henrik Ovens, Norway's... There you have Norway's, what's his name, Paul Logan, that it is first and foremost about creating an empire, where you will earn money, where you will use the weakness in the minds of young people to get clicks and so on. It is more a cult, it is more a cult. And there I am in the old school, who think that it is a sin. But again, you also create a kind of polarization, because you see that there is a shift in... You have two fronts now. You see that there are a lot of young men who are 100% willing to vote for Trump, which I also think is… 7% wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:12:49 Yes, right? And I don't think Trump is going to say, «Hit!» or something like that. I don't agree with that. I think it's pretty mediacal and left-wing-scalped. We talked about it in lunch. A dangerous character. Yes, we talked about it in work. How bad will it be to be 17-4 4 years. It went well the last time. Let him sit down for 4 years and we will be done with it. So I think, I feel like if Kamala is in the game, I think the whole US will go to hell.
Starting point is 00:13:17 And if he loses and he goes out and says that they have also chosen him? No, I can agree with that a little bit. It is of course scary when you go in and have a desire to change the constitution so much that he can get the inheritance. Where it doesn't happen after a valid election. But is it that easy? That he can just do it? Yes, they are easy, but it is not necessarily the president who does it. All those who are behind, who behind, who use every single reason, when something big happens, they go straight in. Behind, there are legislations, who go in and vote for changes in the law,
Starting point is 00:13:58 which makes those who have the most get more power. That's a well-known fact. I think that what you don't get through Norwegian media is that their left wants to do the same, but in a different way. They also want to get Washington as a... You can't get delegates, you can't get voters from Washington, because that is the capital, and that is an old rule, you can't do that. But if the Democrats get in Washington as a voter area, then it would be guaranteed or a banker's democratic... A vote for the election type? and it should be guaranteed or a bank democracy. – A speedy election? – Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And the same with Puerto Rico, for example, which the Democrats also want to get involved in these things, because that is also a bank democracy. – Especially… – Again, these election men things, that you just want to flip, so that you get the benefits. So it happens on both sides, in a way. – Yes, absolutely. But what irritates me about that, because I have always been a left-wing,
Starting point is 00:15:08 and I still do, but at the same time I hate the other side now, because I feel that they shoot themselves in the leg every time. Yes, it's a hell to look at. And then the way we are going to win this in the future, like for example Jonas Garsdøre, it's like... Yes, I was part of the Labour Party in my time, I would say.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I feel that we have been going around for a long time, for example, the Swedish election. Sylviel Lisse went out and said that many years ago, and we all got out. And now we see that Jonas Carstøre himself is starting to criticize the Swedish election. Because he understands that, shit, we lose the election, so it's easy. We have to start to put ourselves around here instead of killing all the Norse people. This became very out of character for your podcast, and I'm sorry we went into this. No, it's okay. We can have good, decent talks here. There are a lot of jokes to be told, but I think it's fun to talk about it. It's a bit like both Biden and Harris have started talking about this wall, and still on this wall.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Of course, I think everyone is concerned about border control. Everyone is concerned about it. And this wall will seem so very fascist, very totalitarian. But I think everyone anti-totalitarianians have childish dreams about the presidential room. It would be the easiest. It would be the easiest. It would be nice. So it is of course... The problem with democracies is that you are forced to give people what they want.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Populism is so easy to implement in democracies. Yes, but I think the right wing should stick to that. I think the left wing should be too good at dealing with populism, because that's what the left wing is doing now. They are starting to talk in the direction of the right, in relation to what the right side wants to do. Like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are starting to talk about, yes, we need to have a little bit of control, we need to watch out for who comes into the country. So it's like, okay, but stand up for what you have, main to the whole world, and be extra hard on that,
Starting point is 00:17:20 if you actually… I feel that, as I said, the left side is becoming more and more populist. You find left populism as well? Yes, I think the left side should be... But what you always ask me is that the left populism is... The left populism is about, you know, if we want zero class differences, we get the wealth over to the people, get rid of capitalism, if we have a new system of money, we start to change the bank account and so on, right? That is also a kind of populism, where you have a version that is not realistic at all, that you cannot get through, it's that it's not good. But I feel that populism is the reason why I'm saying things that...
Starting point is 00:18:05 I mean, nobody thinks that... Well, I'm sure some people do, but I feel that most people don't think that now you're not allowed to be rich anymore, we're going to divide everything 100% equally between all of us. I don't feel that it's something that's necessary for populism, because I don't think that... Oh, so nice that you're going to take some of my wealth. I would rather that someone would come and say that you should keep all your wealth, you should stop paying taxes. I feel that is more in a populist direction. Yes, if populism is in a way, then you know that this is just something you smear people with,
Starting point is 00:18:37 your voice with, that there is not so much idealism in it, but more like a glaze that you put on. So I am a bit... I was not prepared to go this direction. I take myself and think that I can also trust this to make a podcast about it. But I do have some thoughts, and then I go out with a high-heel a bit and say those thoughts, and then people get arrested a arrested if they want to.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Welcome to the club. And I... That's what's with podcasts, that it's a bit... I mean, it's often... It's sitting on the bread head behind each of your microphones, and then it's just felt, and it's speculated, and you get along in a way. You just... I mean, many people are very dangerous, and I can agree with that, but you are nuts, and I am very good at that, that I say things that you don't hear. Because this is how you talk when you sit around with friends, you don't sit around and say, I can't talk about this because I haven't read anything about it. You just sit around and talk about it, so it's the same. And that's why people like to listen to podcasts, because you can make up your own opinions. You don't have to sit around and get brainwashed every time you listen to a podcast. and drag it out of the The older you get, the more likely you are to vote for the higher.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And often you have more money yourself, and you wish to be in your own wealth. I have been a bit self-conscious about that, and I don't think it's necessary. But you are not poor in the outside world, I have not checked the list. But you have your own show. Yes. Before the tour, have you ever been called to vote? Yes, I think I have done that several times, but I have voted for the left all the time. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And that's because I mean, you are perhaps more idealistic when you are younger, right? Absolutely. You are naive, you become less and less naive when you get older. There is a lot of shit that moves on the right side. Not necessarily in Norway, Norway is quite okay, but you have an FRP that is going into government every year. And there you have also had more fleas. You have someone who is significantly worse than others in that party. You have become more of a streamline in that party. I feel that we have become more and more distant from those who did it in the party. I think that Simon Weller is a tiny gift to the French party.
Starting point is 00:21:16 To me, he is a licensed FRP. But to me, I think Simon Weller is... If you have someone who is in the podcast, I would have listened immediately. I think he is interesting to listen to. It doesn't mean that I agree with everything he says, but it means that he has some interesting perspectives in a debate, which I feel has been very close to what you can say and not. And then he comes and hits me from the side, which I think is nice. Both him and Ola Svenesby. I have to say, if you are a fly independent, you are very liberating with your voice.
Starting point is 00:21:51 You have Mimik Christiansson, who is also on the left side. Well, I am on the right side, Christiansson on the left side. You have some voices that... I often remember being in the lead, he took the red ice axe and also a guy who is a little bit boring, but he can also say things that I feel he believes in, and he says the right things. He works at VG Huset, and I always get a little starstruck when I see him in the canteen. But what is an indisputable fact is that you think that a society, a well-functioning society like Norway, must have taxes and fees. We have to... It must be done in that way.
Starting point is 00:22:34 We must have small class differences, and I agree 100% with that. There is a life-saving fall with class differences in society. At the same time, you have a FRP that fights with the NEB and the CLER for as low taxes and expenses as possible, and then says to your friends, that it's not possible, we are in a hut, or a community, and then you show it to some books written by people who are supporting it, and it's great. But what you see in practice is that we have enormous taxes and deductions. Not only the richest, but also the middle class. And then you have, so we pay a lot of our money, go to taxes and deductions, and we also see that our money is getting less and less worth. That means that those who are going to have a form that grows, they have to go into the stock market,
Starting point is 00:23:24 they have to re-invest your money in the stock market. And that's how capitalism works. So this doesn't work at all. We also see that in addition to high taxes and deductions, we can also pump in money from oil funds. So we have enormous budgets. This has been talked a lot about. In Sweden, who don't have the money they can pump in,
Starting point is 00:23:44 they drive their country in a reasonable way. We fall behind. Every year, every year they are going to put down their state projects, no one gets satisfied, because we have high standards. So this doesn't really work. Something has to be done. We can talk about this act, all the money, and what do we have, should we pump in, should we have such high standards? Do you mean that we should lower the standards in general? I think we should drive... I think we should lower the... what is it called? All these bureaucratic things. all these bureaucracy things? There I feel a big part of the debate, especially with FRPS, the tax debate.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I don't feel it's about removing taxes, it's about removing all the losses that occur in the state. So much money that is used for bureaucracy. I saw recently, in school, what we have in North Norway, I think it was North Norway, but it could have cost 80 million, and now they should have used it, no, stop using it, put it down, two years later, I could have built that school, 80 million right out. It's sitting, we throw around the money,
Starting point is 00:24:57 I have used it a lot, but I think it's good. In Oslo, you have to be able to look ahead in time and see what is the technology of the morning. So you use billions of crowns on tea-bottle locks, as you see in London. It's so cool with tea-bottle locks in London. And then they are not used at all, because the technology of the morning, no, the technology of the day, was just total nonsense. But they use the locks in London, right? Yes, they do use to close that and people who go to these fusion reactors and such, yes, it's a piece of shit, but damn, look what's happening here!
Starting point is 00:25:47 We're not going to deal with the ocean in 10 years! Say it yourself! Maybe it's possible to supplement a little, but damn! The way these conclusions are being taken all the time, it's so parody friendly as well, you know? And I'm talking to so many employers who are talking... There comes Jimmy! Welcome in. You know each other? We've met before. Can I get an observation? Jim has started to introduce himself in the podcast. It tastes good and it's good.
Starting point is 00:26:23 What the hell? Can I get an observation when Jim is in the episode? I just have to keep thinking. You can continue, I will come with an observation afterwards. We are talking about the employers. I understand that people get sick in this world we live in. People run around with high heels and facades every time, and that it's completely anarchy, I don't understand. There is so much shit, but when it comes to the money
Starting point is 00:26:52 that goes to the whole NAV system, it's like that, people with healthy resources, they get sick because they are going to be a couple of long weekend in the cabin in Sweden. Right? And then you can't... You can't beat them. You can actually say... You can say off-record, you bastard, I know what you're doing. I know, you're going to the cabin. It's so damn unbearable. But then you can actually... You've started to change your feet, because you can't... You must have footage of the fan-chats.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Imagine how much of the stuff we talk about politics here at home. How relaxed are you? I notice I'm a bit more relaxed now. Maybe we should listen to this, do you think, Ole? I think it was a bit... I think it's fine. I feel that the responsible person comes in here, and I feel that your guests are the ones who take it, the direction the pod goes in. And I don't feel that your guests are often the ones who want to listen to politics, but I can take that as well. We have had a period with a little serious talk here, even though it's fun to talk shit. No, Jim has started to sit on my chair again.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And a time I tried to take over, do you remember? Yes, and you weren't far away either. Can I make an observation about Jim? Yes, you can. Because when I have heard podcast episodes where Jim has been with, and you do a very good job, I have nothing to do with you actually. This is about, then I thought, hmm... I thought that this is a guest that I'm not comfortable with sitting alone with. So now he has taken the gym to calm down the potentially clinging situation.
Starting point is 00:28:33 So I thought that if I come here today and Jim sits in the studio, I will understand where Henrik and I are. So I thought at the beginning that this is good. I thought it was chaotic when Jim couldn't get out of the start. I was like, damn, Jim, I was with you from the start. Damn, Jim is not here. So good. Oh my God, I'm in the heat. And then you come. That was a bad sign, you think? Yes, you thought that now it will slip out of here. No, Jim is... Jim was very useful to have in that one episode.
Starting point is 00:29:00 The golden reserve. Yes, it was a very nice episode. But then I was on a slightly wavering ground. Because if I were to have theme episodes about topics I don't know about, then I wouldn't have any questions, I can't ask guests or get up to the wall in any way. You're counting Wolfgang W? Yes, I'm counting Wolfgang W. But he says he takes active elections in that direction, he shouldn't think anything about it. But I think it is very important, just like when Trump is with the Rogan, and he has so many possibilities and then they pick it up a little later, but then
Starting point is 00:29:45 just come back! Are you serious? You have to visualize that so damn well, it's so interesting to hear more about it. It dances in the play over and over. It was so important, because I realized that this is actually, I thought, now I'm just going to get a little bit of a phase on economics, and then it turns out, here are two schools, and Jim has studied economics and such, so it was damn new to me. Yes, but I had a little bit of a hard time, because it's been a long time since I've studied, so it's not very fresh in my memory, a lot of that Keynesian way of thinking economics. But I found myself to actually agree with almost, or everything, everything he said, which is probably the most controversial of the two ways of thinking.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I think everything seems very reasonable. It's like a snus reasonable. I think it's very nice to be able to... It's crazy, I want to dig a little more into this, and we were so deep into it. We have enormous state budgets, but then it doesn't go up. It's always, in a way, every sector complains and whines, and we get nothing done, and it's offered to people with mental illness, we're going into an older wave, and there's already a lot of crisis at the old centers.
Starting point is 00:31:03 So everything, nothing works when we have the most. And that doesn't really apply to many people. I have thought about that when my mother worked in the mental health department. When people are too fond of being in prison, they end up where she works. And there is talk about cutting down. And they say that it's not a surplus, the municipality doesn't make money on this, so we have to cut it. But then I think, is that the opinion actually, that a hospital should go with surplus? I feel that the whole system in Norway is built up that hospitals should not go with surplus.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Money should be spent on hospitals, of course, because we have the health care we have here in the country that makes it so that You can't go with overdrafts. You have to pay for the hospital. Of course, because we have the health insurance that we have in the country that makes it so that when we got our children, I was so shocked that it wasn't the only time I had to bring my visa card and just pay a part of it myself. In the hospital, it was there for four days.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Bye. There was not a single invoice in the mail once. And of course you pay for it. I struggle to understand why they have to cut like this all the time. If it's about the hospital having to go into overdraft, then we have to start paying for things. Yes, but it's also like, where do you start? There are so damn many things. And I think... I try to be careful not to think too much, because I understand that it's nuanced, it's not black and white, there are many opinions to be taken. I would like people to come here in this studio and just explain things.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Have you evaluated… Explain to me why it has to be like this. Have you talked to politicians and invited them? Do you really have to do that? Who should I invite? Maybe I'll invite those who can actually talk freely, like we were talking about earlier. Kristiansson, I'm sure there are several. But they are also politicians. They have an intention to bring forth their own party.
Starting point is 00:33:06 But maybe it's so easy that there is no phase. You want to draw the voters in your own direction. But to get it in your own politics, there are many who have to suffer. In the water of the sea. Yes, some it has to be a little. So maybe there is no phase. Maybe this would be what is called utopia. What do you think? What do you think?
Starting point is 00:33:34 I don't know. When you talk about politics, things get very... It's very tricky. And I think, in a country like Norway, you have to start with having the competence in the roles that are important for distributing the wealth. And I said in that episode, we talked about the gold standard.
Starting point is 00:34:00 One of the first I heard talk on TV was Rikneup NRK.no, the head of central bank in Norway. She is insanely good and she has a very impressive CV. We have people who are competent in managing oil funds, but then you start to look at things at a municipal level, because the only thing I really care about is what's happening around me. What's happening in North, South and people are very concerned about being able to live in the whole of Norway.
Starting point is 00:34:33 And that's a personal debate, but what's happening around me at a municipal level is so damn weird. It's like, what was it I read? It's like bike paths from Skøyen to Smestad. I didn't get caught up in this, but like 700 miles over the budget. And then you start to, you don't want to read anymore, because it's so extreme numbers. And you just understand that,
Starting point is 00:34:59 like I'm a daily leader in the shop here, I've got an ex-lark as a mechanic, so this is on the way in the next 30 days, this is on the way out the next 30 days. And if the two are not in style to each other, then I have to go around with myself, what I've done wrong, because at the end of the year we're going to have a plus result, and not a minus result. When I see how they manage to just splash cash on so much shit, and I don't see any mistakes with cycling,
Starting point is 00:35:30 it's just something like, how do you manage to bomb absolutely everything from budgeting? I think that's where my frustration starts. How it's possible, if this is good people. But this is, these people are replaying, the whole society, it's not some mystical creatures that are sitting and are replaying, the whole society, there are no mystical creations that are oracles. This is, it is done humanly wrong over the whole line. I sat up and recommended yesterday a little TV dinner with my girlfriend. And then they will have a competition where they will make a chain, what is it called, chain effect, chain reaction. And then there are several. You have to start the chain, and the end result is that a balloon will burst.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And then he made a chain reaction down the stairs with armor, chairs and stuff, and the dunes down, and the balloon pops out. Great. Not the world record, but a top-notch one. And then Else Kåss starts, and then the Bjarne's sister Kåss puts a lot of clothes on the ground, and then she stands with her foot on that one goose, like she is part of that chain, and then she breaks the balloon with a needle. And there are several people who do this. And I often click on TV. You have to understand that. But then I actually said loudly, what is it that is going on here? Are you kidding me? Shouldn't you go one round with something? Because I think the rest of the people are just... But they don't care. They live their lives.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And then they just say yes, yes, yes, and so on and so on. And this happens around... People who take decisions on our behalf, it's just as bad. They could have made a chain reaction, maybe, on the King of Fathers, but when it gets a little more advanced, then you actually stand still, relatively to the starting point. And then you make equally bad systems in the municipalities and in the state, as chain reaction to health. So yesterday I was going to sell my car. Do you have a car?
Starting point is 00:37:46 Yes, I have a car. What car? It's an old Mercedes Vetteran from 2012. Really? I can't see that when I'm driving. It's very funny. We were going to show Steiner Hallert's character. It was very funny that he was going to have a person where he had gotten a veteran car. And then I was like, it's a bit wrong to miss him, he's a veteran. And then I was like, he's not a veteran, he's a veteran from 2007.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Call him a veteran. The car you got was a bit too veteran. So it didn't really make sense. Now should we buy a new car? It's a fossil car that we had in the past, that we had for too long. So we plan to get one. We have got a new L car now, so we're going to get an L car. Tesla? Not Tesla. We'll see. I'm a fisherman after a kind of... There is one thing I'm interested in.
Starting point is 00:38:43 It's a collaboration with someone who can deliver a car, so I can sit in the car and make some content and keep going. You mean that she's a lady? Yes, that she's a lady. She has a car on it. Damn, she has it! Right? But I don't want that much either, but I think it can be a value.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Same with that. No one can get that car. So that's fine. I've tried you. I've tried all people. I've tried different people. Only for example. I have tried all kinds of cars, I have tried all kinds of cars. Then I will register the car for sale at the auction.
Starting point is 00:39:13 They get it and fix it. And it will be announced on Fynnotenna. It's not like I... I'm going to sell a car here, I'm talking about about 10.000 kroner. I can just go in and write one request and just fill out all the points. ABS brake... Maybe that's it, I don't know, I don't care about that list. And then just...
Starting point is 00:39:42 I go, I do the job thoroughly, when I first do this, and go through every single point, put it in the front page, yes, I have done everything right, okay, what picture will be on the front page, great, great, great, great, great, go through, is everything ready to be sent out now? Take a checklist, like, yes, says to myself, everything everything is done, this looks good, every point has been passed, ready for delivery, send out, good, cars sold, overtaxed. Yes. Not that I know, but I'll say that. Because the work has been done thoroughly. It seems that people who are going to make bicycle steering, who are going to make these ticket locks on the cable car systems. It's so left-handed work. It's zero. It doesn't go through quality insurance, it doesn't go through research and the future law,
Starting point is 00:40:35 and through a thought that is talking about tomorrow's technology. No, then, blow it up and we throw away billions of crowns. I have a theory there. Conspiracy theory. I think they do it with will. I think it's very easy to sell in that, okay, let's build the government quarter. I say, how much will it cost? 10 billions? I feel it continues. It's like how nerd it is to drink NACO with those bricks under. On the back of the chair. Oh my God, I like it. Let's say we're going to build the government quarter for 10 billions. And then you listen to the It will be so cheap, we will work through it as a good report on why it will cost so much, and then they know that it will spread sooner or later.
Starting point is 00:41:28 But then we are already so well in the process that we can not stop it. Because they had never recognized if they knew that the government's budget would cost 40 billion, or what it is now, I do not know. So then they sell it in very cheap and then they understand that when we first get started, we will not be able to stop it. But those who sit in the other end and look at these reports in the beginning, yes, we believe in you, we believe in that. We believe in that. What the hell is going on there?
Starting point is 00:41:52 Is it corruption? Is it corruption here? Is it corruption? Political corruption? That those who win the offer, that something happens behind the scenes? I just speculate. I just speculate. I just speculate. I think you should throw that out there, I think it's nice. It could be, but I think there is a lot of incompetence. I think the boring answer is that it's so easy.
Starting point is 00:42:18 There is probably a little of everything. You can't say that something is zero sometimes, but, but I feel that it is just as a lot of people say, who give a little fuck in the results. You work in the municipality or the state and it goes to. But I think the most frustrating thing is how little you get punished for making these mistakes. That you end up in a more fat position, suddenly somewhere else, just get the problem away,
Starting point is 00:42:49 get the person away from the fact that you are no longer in search. I think that's what frustrates me most when these things go wrong, that it doesn't feel like there is any change. You just know that it will happen again and again and again. That's what I feel. We have gone through this trap. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:43:08 You have seen so much through this. Getting a big wealth. And then you have to manage it. And then you have to go into a flood-resistant society. And then just wait for things to continue to be done properly. You just see that it's all messed up. There is a reason for the case, the case with politicians who have messed up or made a fool of themselves.
Starting point is 00:43:29 It's because... There is something that is fundamentally wrong. But what do you think should have been done? For example, Hun Laan. She remembers... Are we going to talk about buses? Or... I think there are a lot you can take.
Starting point is 00:43:42 But let's not talk about one, but generally. Politicians are bombing roughly on budgeting. You are responsible for a project, it is exactly the same as you are responsible for a project leader or a company. If you bomb roughly, you take a conversation to see how you can learn from what has happened, and how you can do better next time. How should you do it when there is talk about billions in the Norwegian politics? What should the consequences be for people who should have understood early that this is going to hell? Fear culture is a bit dangerous too. Then it becomes dangerous in another direction.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Nobody dares to do anything. It's like a football team. If you have fear culture, nobody dares to put anything. Some players are better then? If you are a football team, if you have a fear culture, no one will dare to bet anything. But some players do it better than you. Yes, but they fit better into their roles, but no one dares to do it extra-fortunately. It's not easy, but I have to say, this is difficult to talk about, really. So if someone sits out there thinking that some of these claims have been wrong, please say so. Tell me why it's wrong. Or point me in the direction of some people who can explain why it's wrong. Why the left-wing politics is the only way to go.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Please say so. But I don't feel that I can see it at all. And it should be said that there have been higher governments in several periods and had the opportunity to do a lot. But still, not enough has happened. Because there are people who want to vote on the right side, who are like, why is it like this? They should have laid a foundation for those years. I don't think it makes much difference with those two voting parties. So I'm like, fuck it. Can I come with a wish guest for a future episode? Have you made a foundation for those years? I don't think it makes much difference with those two He's been a guest in Vålgang V, but I think he's interesting. If there's one Instagram account that deserves a lot of followers, I think it's that one.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Can we still go pee? Yes, we hold this going. You can hold this going. You can start to pee too. When you said that about Jim, and the way you felt on the inside when you saw Jim coming in your eyes. And then I had to send a message, help, why are you making a message? No, damn, it's great that you came in. Oh my God, it was so fast.
Starting point is 00:46:21 The truth is that I get messages from you, come in now. It's crazy. Oh my God, it was so fast. The thing is that I get messages from you, come in now! It's crazy. But I thought, the times I come in, I should have new things. Yes, you come in as a kind of... But this is an audiovisual format, and you know it so well. You know it so well. And come in with a bowl of sweets without mentioning what you have come with.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I said sweets, didn't I? You said it, maybe. I said sweets. You can say that it's blue crocodiles you've never seen before. Now I'm stuck. To start with... Are you stuck? No, I actually ate a yogurt. The pink crocodiles, are you sure the color is funky?
Starting point is 00:46:59 It's a different one you get on Kiwi? This is just a new example of how you try to destroy this podcast from the inside. We have had to put this podcast down because you have smuggled in chips and sweets and people have clicked because there is smutting in the smoke. Now you come in here again, try to relax with something tasty, next episode there will be chips on the table again. Yes, it can be. If we are going to have this order now, I can bring what I want, I think. We can take a rule, I can bring cinnamon rolls. It's a shit to bring something in here. People don't have to put things in their mouths all the time. It's so funny that I'm the speaker for that. Because as I said, I'm well trained now. I have a strong back fat.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I dare not talk too much about it, because I'm too fat. It's a pearl for the pig. No one sees the temple. You found a beautiful temple, a pyramid of the Amazon, but everything is covered by bushes and lianas and shit. So you can't see a shit from the temple. There is nothing to see. You see one small stone statue, the rest is just covered by vegetation. I can't start talking. I can't be an autotet when you have a health care to do, really. Before I start to deafen, you know. And deafening's good. I have to lie in the bathroom with ice cubes, and I have to lie down with jackets to sweat out again,
Starting point is 00:48:28 as a boxer who is going into the inner wall. But we were at this performance of the man who was sleeping, Paul Stamets, at the Colosseum 1. The witch doctor there. And after that you were dealing with a lot of linesmen, Henrik. That's something we've talked about. I bought linesmen. What I was surprised about was that you bought more after complaining about it. I didn't complain about linesmen. It's possible that...
Starting point is 00:48:55 First of all, you don't need to have powder form. You can buy linesmen and use them in your food. It tastes very meaty. With possible advantages, it is several years of research before you can get any clinical results on it, or get some results. But I bought from the ex-doctor, Paul Stamets, who claims that he has no interest in sales of Lion's Men products, because he should be credible. I still have a lot to talk about, that you have to take these pills, these capsules, and he as an expert, as a leading expert in the field,
Starting point is 00:49:32 should understand that the dosage of these two capsules is not close enough to give anything any effect. And that's what I understood. That's why it's a hoax, it's because the two capsules with linesman are not close enough, you have to have much more of these things. So what I found was something called Sopp-company, some guys who are out in Speydeberg. I just want to say that I'm back from the toilet. Sopp, what am I talking about here? We were on a show, and one of you guys was singing about the world of Sopp. Yes, are we talking about So as food or as a ruse?
Starting point is 00:50:07 Not a ruse, as supplements. As in a longevity project. But the advantages with soap... Soap is very... Yes, the same. So I ended up buying soaps capsules with soaps powder, I got 3000 kroner on the food court. As a pill? As a box with pills. Then I contacted these guys at Spydeberg and ordered pulverized or cut up quern linesman in bags so I can adjust it myself. And then you do more than 1-2 grams on the decimals in these films. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Why would you do this? I just wanted to know, because after we had been on this performance with Paul Stamets, you were very excited, I remember. Yes, but I was interested in those things. And I got excited myself. He has made a soap, he is a very soap fanatic, I must say. And I said that when I drew the master card. Yes. It was before the tapping time.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Because I was surprised. Before I drew the master, I said, I need more placebo in life. Yes, you said that. But then I thought the placebo was gone. Because you started saying that I don't think the linesman works. And then I showed that you could order linesman on ODA
Starting point is 00:51:38 which is tillerkornal.no And then you said, can you get that there? I have bought a lot of linesman, you said. And then I was surprised. he get that? I have bought a lot of lines with him, and then it was a hit. Yes, I bought a round with those guys. I know, I think... It was just to check if it gave me any effect. And again, it has to be done quite like that. You have to isolate all other factors and then you have to take... It's basically impossible to find out. Yes, you have to do research. I'm a fan of the scientific method. To do it in the right way, so that I actually find out if there is a real effect here,
Starting point is 00:52:14 and that it's the lines that do it, it requires too much of me. But I just want to see if there is an open effect here. Do you take care of your health, Ole? I take care of my health. In autumn, so... I learned that. We were out on a trip together two years ago. We were going to make a board in a sports club. Damn, that was fun. And you sat... We were going to drive up in Holmenkollen,
Starting point is 00:52:35 which is a half an hour drive away. And you sat all the way through the car trip and talked about fasting. Yes, it was a hard period. Yes, you were hard at fasting. And since then, I have been doing fasting for a longer period. I train every day, but I don't drink much. That's the problem. That's where it stopped me from being... Everyone thinks that you should have a slender motivation.
Starting point is 00:53:00 No, but I also become more able. But you have become slender and fine. Yes, I have. Thank you. But it can't be better. On the contrary, you have a sickly sick look on you. No, no, no, no. I'm a little sick. No, no, no, you're not. You're so handsome. I'm too fond of carbohydrates.
Starting point is 00:53:19 But, God, as in Hercules, over there... No, we're both... We're sick. No, Ole. I've heard you talk about it in the last episode. I'm so happy that you're here. No, we're both sick. No, Ole, we're not. I've heard you talk about it in the last episode. We haven't talked about it. We haven't talked about drinking. We're both sick. It's true. You talk about what the proper weight is. Yes, and fat like a pig.
Starting point is 00:53:40 No matter what you do, you're always fat. No matter what you do, you are always in a hurry. Yes, it is actually... I have opened my show with this double-decker, which I can't get loose. To get rid of it, the only way to get rid of the double-decker is to get bear-frightened, so it drowns into the other fat. So I have... Have you grown beard? Beard? No! It's also a part of the... Damn, Timas!
Starting point is 00:54:12 There is someone who has forever sick hair. It's me. I will never get a bald head. Casemiro? Sven Biscois Sunne? He has an ever sick head. Sick of everyone. It just goes on. It has been said that it is a very big thing. That it is too big. Too big. I think you can get... I know damn it. No, but yes.
Starting point is 00:54:38 What you were wondering was if Henrik could get the sheath over the head, was that what you thought? Yes, because I have... Look, this is the beginning of my show. So I can't take it anymore. At least you dare to answer the question. Is the show finished in Oslo? Yes, it's finished. I can almost say that with confidence. Do you have people who are cheering for you on your show in the district?
Starting point is 00:55:03 No, I have almost no one to support me. I just go on. I have started to do it completely like Vanilla, as you say in the YouTube world. And Instagram, in social media. Yes, they miss you. No, in the gaming world. Vanilla. Isn't it like Vanilla is like without patches and upgrades? Yes, I don't know myself completely yet, to be honest. No. No, I'm just starting to walk away without a shit. I had a strategy that maybe I could put your show in the district.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Bessa would be up for it once. Then I have an excuse to watch the show. We're going to take a look at that. How long are you going to wait? I don't want to say that I'm doing Because I have stood four times in two weeks. But I have a goal to achieve. What I have found out, is that every time I have seen stand up,
Starting point is 00:55:54 I have seen longer stand up specials. And they are often built around history. So what I didn't understand when I started to stand 5-10 minutes away from the spot, is that you can't build up your set in the same way as if it had been a one hour special. You have to have a lot more jokes. So that's where I try to find out how I can be a lot more joke-oriented and not just a story telling. People don't care if you just stand there for 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:56:18 That's what's standard. That's what's art in stand-up. You can tell stories, but you have to be relatively funny. So in my opinion, you shouldn't be too open-minded or think of those jokes. You have to have a point of contact. It takes time, I have one longer story in my show, and it's slow as fuck, but you take the time to work in the little constructed I agree with that, generally in society. It was a thing. Do as you want. I feel that everyone is stuck now. That's what's going on now.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I understand that very well, because it's an incredibly good play. I tape my mouth and I'm stuck. That's how it is. Do you get any effect of tape your mouth? Because you do this when you're sleeping at night. Huh? Do you tape your mouth when you're sleeping at night? Yes, 100%. Do you get anything out of it? 100%. What? You are sleeping at night. You are talking about the mouth when you are sleeping at night. Yes, 100% Do you get anything out of it?
Starting point is 00:57:26 100% What? Why not? I have a mouth breather. Of course I have a bit of a sickness to do, but it is also a bit of a pain. There was a saying before, mouth breather. You should not lie like this. Look at the most beautiful creatures we have here on earth, they don't listen to sleep, they are like princesses, breathing through their noses. So when you wake up every morning or in the middle of the night with Sahara-mouth and your ass is in a mis-form, because you have now had to have a wither, then it is clear that something is wrong. And I understood this and felt a little
Starting point is 00:58:09 up and down and everything. So I started to see that people were doing this nasal breathing thing and mouth tape and many people think it's completely insane when they hear it and see it for the first time. I thought, hmm, this is totally logical. It costs a little to try too.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Very. And then I read a little more try it out. Very. It was easy to experiment with. I read a bit more about it and thought I should try it out. So I started with a micropore type that I bought at the pharmacy. And at the beginning I took it off in my sleep. I lost it along the way. And it was very strange to just focus on my nose and try not to breathe through my mouth, because then I would have done it my whole life. What it showed was that the more I stood in it, the more meditative it became and the insomnia thing. So you fell asleep easier?
Starting point is 00:58:56 I focused on my nasal breathing in a way, and I fell asleep from it. And then after a week or two I was completely over on the other side again, and it felt really good. I didn't sit back down. I forgot it sometimes, but now it's really part of the routine. If I have to sleep on the couch, I have to throw out the dune. If I have to sneeze, I have to go in there. Then I wake up. Because it's the nightclub.
Starting point is 00:59:24 If you struggle with the same thing as you are struggling with, I'll wake up. Because it's the night sports If you're tired of the sammels you hear me work with, at least try it. Have you ever been afraid to think if you don't breathe well enough through your nose, if you go crazy with it at night? You must have an survival instinct. If someone is so stupid, I hope you die before or after you die. If you die with a little snore in your nose, and you don't wake up from it, but just lie down and die of your snore, then you are a bad person. Then you won't be able to carry on with your genes. I read today, today is Wednesday, the top of the VG today said that around 50 stacos had died in Spain.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Because of the rain. Before you continue, I have to say one more thing. What is interesting and an interesting observation is that you produce snor when you breathe through your mouth. Then you get snor in your nose and dry in your mouth. If you have tape over your mouth, the nose will not produce snor. So you will then go from being a little snor, when you wake up, you wake up with clean pipes. Oh yes. Not a single pipe sound or anything.
Starting point is 01:00:29 It disappears overnight. So nice. Okay, hold on. Rain in Spain. Spain. It's 50 people who have died now. There has been a lot of rain in Spain. And I am not more educated than I think. We talked about survival instinct.
Starting point is 01:00:45 How can I count so much that 50 people will die? I wonder about that. I have never been in a bad situation where I have been so extreme. Here is my life in danger. I grew up in North Norway, but it's not that bad. It's going well. So I wonder. How do you die?
Starting point is 01:01:03 I understand that there is a little flame, but isn't it just to go up a place? Stand in peace, take it easy, wait for the weather to change and then... Yes, I think if you look at the case in Norway, where we are very used to extreme rivers and such, then it happens, if not death, it happens accidents. Material damage and... So when you live in a place where there is almost no infrastructure to deal with the unforeseen rain, then I understand that there can be 50 deaths in the middle of the day that the river is getting closer, then we go up in the mountains, but when this happens very quickly overnight, do you understand?
Starting point is 01:01:54 But I haven't been in Spain for a long time. But you know, tomorrow we have sent a great danger ourselves. Oops, a lot of rain in a short time. Then I would have thought that if I knew that there is a potential danger of material damage, I would pull myself together. Yes, but Spain is not a country where geniuses are born. No, they are not the brain damage in Spain. How many immigrants live in Spain? 30 million? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:24 I'm telling you. it's probably too little. How many people live in Spain? Wow, probably a lot more. 100 million. I'm going to google it. Jimmy, pull this up. 45 million. Was that really something I should have done in the beginning? Oh, 48 million. 48 million people. You find 50 out 48 million people dying in the rain.
Starting point is 01:02:46 But it didn't rain in Spain either. It was in the east side of Spain. Every day 7000 people die of popcorn. And that's just statistics. I throw it right out of my ass. That's probably right. It's probably too small. It's probably too few people. It's probably... Last 14 000. 14 000 people die of popcorn every day. Okay. I say that. Every day? I'm just throwing it out there, but it's probably true.
Starting point is 01:03:12 It's always something like that. Every day, yes. Don't you think? The worst rain period in Spain, maybe ever since the modern after-moligna started, has reached 50 out of 48 million in debt. What do you do? You die of fear! How? Explain it to me!
Starting point is 01:03:30 Look at Jerdrum then! Jerdrum, it happens out of the blue. It was a race! Imagine how many ring effects such rain has in a dry country like Spain. It pours out earth masses and there, earthquakes, and everything else across the country, in the city. But if they get the news the day before,
Starting point is 01:03:50 that it's going to rain at night, the whole neighborhood is going to be destroyed, people are going to die. What would people have done? They wouldn't have slept in their houses. But it's raining, but not the rain's ring effect. It's earthquakes. Then Spain has to come together and say
Starting point is 01:04:04 that people are in need. That what, it will rain so much, that this can happen, this can happen, come away. But Ole, if you climb up in the highlands, because it's raining, and then the earth's crevice in the mountains dies, then only 50 people die there, in the analysis, built up in the analysis there? We have... Oh, but you are a state, I think... No, I mean, completely honestly, we have every message... I think this is correct. Every message says from a week before Venom, that next week it will be hell. You have one week to get rid of it, it's fine, get rid of it. Yes, and I think that 50 people is always a small statistical collection. And that's why I think, 50, that was Spain.
Starting point is 01:04:53 When I'm in a real crisis here in Norway, I feel like I'm smoking a couple of these. Yes, but not 50. Can you guys take a small... I have to pee quickly. I'm very excited. You mentioned this with Standup. You have just started in a year. Absolutely. Because this is my big fear life. Stand-up? Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:13 My first thought when I started was that... actually I have stage fright. I thought that this is terrible. You are never as vulnerable as when you stand on stage and the audience says that this is so much fun. That this is not going to be funny. And I have so much faith in myself that this will work. So I was prepared for the same thing you are saying here. I don't know what direction you would go. I mentioned it too flatly, because it's probably pre-corona, 6-7 years ago. I just mentioned that I want to be on stage once,
Starting point is 01:05:47 try my best, but I don't think it will go well. I don't think I fit in. And I think every time I see someone on stage and is funny, I just think how crazy many times they have choked before it has been good. Yes, right. Do you experience the same? I experience that I have choked before it has become good. Yes, right. Do you experience the same? I experience that I am choked. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:08 That there are things you have thought about, okay, I say this, do this, do that, and then people will laugh. I have underestimated the audience, I have so much to do with that, I can often be seen as an observation is very funny, and then I think that of course, say this, and people are there to laugh, of course they will laugh at this, and then there is no one who laughs.
Starting point is 01:06:28 But they are very engaged in what I have to say, there is no one who in a way, I don't think people pray generally in Norway, but I have never experienced any bad mood, but I have experienced that here I can walk for a minute and a half without any luck, and I have tried to make two jokes there. But it has never worked. It has worked in the third turn, not in the third turn. Okay, I understand. But it's almost worse. You want it to be a bomb, it's completely f***ing bad. It was completely OK. But do you feel that you learn something when it doesn't go as you expected?
Starting point is 01:06:58 Do you change it the next time? It's the process here. Yes, you just have to cut away the fat, get it away, get something new here that is more sharp. It's like that, I tested new things on Sunday and a little out of tune on that front, I have played the show now. Some work surprisingly well, and here they are more, and then you start to drift on it. Some things they are not on, and they hate you you. They are like, yes, yes, buddy.
Starting point is 01:07:28 We don't think this is so fun. We don't agree on it. That's why I was very prepared to get nervous. But then I found out what it was. I don't like to get so nervous. I decided that this should not take over my whole week. I will be nervous 5 minutes before I go on. And then I go on and think that I will not die from this. We try and find out what did not work and we arrange it next time. We talked about a lot of different things here. We were going to talk about a few things. Jim, do you know who Sondre Paps is? No.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Ole, we have to talk about Sondre Paps. I have filled out this YouTube account from the beginning of my life. It's the most insane thing I have witnessed. When they called me Sondre Paps, it was the craziest thing I knew about. A father in such a huge middle age crisis that it is possible to get, had almost forced my son to sign up for a YouTube account, and they had a lot of income, they had a water war in the garden. Was it in the summer camp? And my son... It was just so sad to see that his father... His father wanted fame and went with my son. It was completely unreal. It was real, it was completely insane. Do you have anything to add before we move on?
Starting point is 01:08:49 I just wanted to say that when I started with YouTube, when I was 26, I remember I told other YouTubers, I started to get known, like, what's the deal with Sondre and Paps? Is it no one who has stopped them? And then I just got a message, no, you can't talk about this, it's just nice. And I was... This was my battle story from the beginning, I saw it from the beginning that this is not possible. It will fall out before, and it did before or after. But I just had it on paper that I saw it from the start.
Starting point is 01:09:18 But what happened? You followed that journey with these two, the middle-aged father the young son, who at the beginning thought it was fun. He became less and less interested, because every year he gets older. It's so sad to see that he thinks his father is cool, he's not like other fathers, he's involved in making YouTube and he's a pimple, and the son is like a goose in the whole world. It's incredible to watch. But the father can still go on and say «One day we will eat chili!»
Starting point is 01:09:56 And it seems that he gets also alcoholized by drinking and smoking too. There was one thing that happened when this was a difference from familyfriendly Sondre and Paps, to now this is going well. And it still exists? Yes, yes, yes. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:10:14 There is a complete archive on YouTube. Yes, yes, I like that. There was one video Paps released, where he was invited by, do you know who Stian Norwege is? No. He was one of Norway's biggest Twitch streamers. Yes, because then we go a bit further, because what happens is that they break up every Sunday. I'm talking about the differences between what happened from family-friendly to what happened to hell, in a word.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Stian Norway, a big streamer, drank a lot on stream, enjoyed himself, he is now in prison from bank and drug trafficking. Hard type. Stian Norway invites Paps on the live stream. Paps? Yes, alone. Sondre has nothing to do with this. Paps takes the camera with him, vlogs the whole experience, from Møyre or wherever they live. He is sitting there, and you are not pointing at him. No, this came later.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Paps goes to Stia Norway and they sit and chat on stream. Paps puts this out on a channel that is only children watching, and we who like to watch freakshows, that they sit and chat on a live stream together. From here on out, it was a journey that I have more or less enjoyed. And it's very sad too. There are some sad scenes in here. I feel sorry for the boy, who has grown up. He has recently turned 20.
Starting point is 01:11:40 His dad was a fan. And then you have a father who has got some kind of fame, and then the middle age got fame, and has become quite alcoholic and is drinking and drinking. And this is called Papyrinios best adventures, and here it is from a modern, new era. He started with being in the garden and being very shy and very and be very polite and very sorry. Until now, listen to this. The next day. A girl, I'm fucking with. I like her ass. What do you want to be, sir?
Starting point is 01:12:14 I have a few tips here. I'm thinking about pissing on the ass. Hahaha! Not a game, haha! You see, he's completely like like he's been breaking bad. Now he's rambling around, and the police are coming. It's like a movie. Is he still with the kids?
Starting point is 01:12:38 No, he's out. He's drinking and talking and rumblingumbling and he's getting cold from this. But you said finger ring. Did he finger him? Yes, I saw him. He had small fingers and grabbed some models when they were shooting and streaming. Yes, it was a live stream, full stream on Twitch. I didn't have fingers, but there was a hand that went in between his two legs, that came on camera, which didn't look very good. I want to make a film based on that. Documentary?
Starting point is 01:13:16 No, film. Oh, a film, a play film? Yes, I think it's a film. The starting point is incredible. return, is so incredible. The contrast is so enormous. So I recommend people to watch the first things they did, with Sondre Paps, when everything was kind of frayed and old. I will use the weekend on that.
Starting point is 01:13:36 And watch that interlude, watch Titanic, watch this crazy journey. And how it it been now? I met Paps one or two months ago at Wheel of the 90s. Mats was the conference host and I worked with Mats Hansen. So we were all invited to the sports club in the editorial office at Wheel of the 90s. There I met Paps, whom I haven't met in many years. And it was of course nice, and we greeted each other for many years, and it's nice to meet and talk to each other. And now I think we've gone full circle. Now he's working with 3D graphics, he's made a map for this Wheel of the 90s, which you saw in his Facebook group. So he's got his hands on the map again.
Starting point is 01:14:16 It seems like... We have to say that, so people don't think he's still sitting there live streams. But what you do on the internet is always there. What's out there is incredibly bad. I agree. Holy shit! You have to hurry up and watch it before he removes it. He has to sit down. He has to slap me with the NO, that's not enough for this man. But he can remove it from the YouTube channel?
Starting point is 01:14:46 Yes, but it's... It's gone completely viral. Okay, so there are other clips... No, it's like... If you're going to start looking for a job and don't mention this, you can go to the employer and check his background a little bit and just... Oh, hell no! Have you ever done anything completely idiotic at night before? That you thought, Oh my god, I could have done this without it.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Is it nothing that you... Yes, I don't see much of myself, I don't see the comment section and such, it just has to be there, but I don't think I'm going to get into something that will destroy me so much. I have tried to keep myself a little bit, so I don't think I have done so much. I have tried to hold myself back a little since then, so I don't think I have done so much bad there. I have been to the British night club there. You have to see it too.
Starting point is 01:15:32 That's true. I think the end of that clip is fake, because it really looks like a parody play. Yes, but I'm a little at work too, you know. And then you were actually fired, and then we got you fired. This is real. And it's a bit of a hangover, but I also see that I'm a pure young man. So it's different to let go of the age... Are you so riled up when you meet the police? No, I wasn't riled up, but... You were hasty. What you didn't see was that there was a nail hanging on there with the camera and the whole package.
Starting point is 01:16:02 And I thought it felt incredibly weird to be taken by the police and then be filmed like that. Yes, it was provocative. So I was actually really provoked by it. And then I was going to charm the lady a little. And then I had a job, I was in the mood for comedy, I was a little at work, I understood that I was being filmed. You were a comedian here.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Yes, I had a job in Strønnheim. So it was a combination of those things. I think my frustration was the medical team, because they film like this. Yes, well, they say it gets slashed. But there are many clips and people who think it should be through, because you lead it here. I understand how TV works. What's really fun here, I don't know if I have told you before, but we film the fucking flat set, the series, and we are going to have real stand-up scenes in this series. So we invite an audience in, so that we get the authentic stand-up feeling. And then we trick and mix a bit.
Starting point is 01:17:06 We have a show at the same time as we film small sequences for the series. And I have my good friends and colleagues with me, Martin Leivestad does a great job of keeping the audience going, Jørnis Josef is there keeping the audience going. At some point I am giving instructions to the audience, because we are going to play with the scenes, and we have to entertain them at the same time. Jørnis is up there helping me. to the audience, because we are going to record the scenes, and we have to entertain them at the same time, and help each other out.
Starting point is 01:17:26 And then we start talking. We have gone a bit far talking about things, because we have been doing this for a long time, right? Take the night patrol stuff. What the hell was that? I don't really talk much about it on stage, but we talk about this. And while I'm talking about this, there are two cameras. You have the front camera, which films me frontally. And then behind you, on the follow camera, you have the photographer Paul Rønnevik, who is behind us and films behind us.
Starting point is 01:17:55 And when I talk about this, I think it's almost like I'm filming Paul going behind you. Somewhere in the clip, Paul is walking behind Paul. That he, and somewhere in the clip Paul is there, and Paul is there. That he was the photographer in the nightclub. Oh shit! Is that true? That's crazy! And what happens then? He tells the story later. But it went up for him then. Because he filmed the nightclub before that. So that was sick. That's sick actually.
Starting point is 01:18:26 But it is a small industry. I just wanted to say, have you heard the Trump Log? Yes, I have not heard it. I don't think it is that interesting either. But what is very interesting is that both of you have been on DO. And what goes into the episode on the Log after the Trump episode, there is something called the Fight Companion, which is sitting in four rooms watching UFC live, and then you turn off the volume on the TV, and then you listen to them instead. Then he starts digging into some kind of treasure,
Starting point is 01:18:54 and finds a lot of diet coke, and then Rogan says, yes, we bought that for Trump, and then he says, okay, how many did he drink? He drank five diet coke or something like that, and then just because all the guys were going to the bathroom, and one of them usually pee in a bottle in the studio. And then Rogan says, you won't believe it. Trump came, didn't pee before we were going to the studio, sat three hours in the studio, didn't pee then, finished the studio.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Finished the studio, didn't pee then. And Rogan just said that he looks like he's 20 years old. It's wild. I have to say that he looks like... If I had been in his position, I would have taken the biggest two steps down to the best things. The best doctors in the world. I believe that when I see him in those podcasts, with the calm he has, he seems very outgoing. I think he will win that he makes Rogan and those podcasts
Starting point is 01:19:53 and Kamen and Harris don't do it. Because I think all those who listen and look at those guys there, and who have got, but at the same time, look a little in the mirror, this presentation of Trump from performance from rallies and so on, and then they see a completely different person, and then they think, okay, we are being fooled here. That's what I think.
Starting point is 01:20:14 And now it is rumored that he is J.D. Vance, that he is performing, but Kamala has sent over a list of things she will have to perform in order to make it happen. So I think, just as you say, I think he has made a lot of votes on that show. I think in 2008, when Obama came in, 2008, there was Facebook who vipped that election. This year it's the podcast. It's Joe Rogge.
Starting point is 01:20:43 It's YouTube, it's podcast on YouTube, the modern talk show. But you have seen House of Cards. I think that in the future more and more of what was in House of Cards, with that Swedish guy who plays the present... Joel Kinnaman. Yes, very good. He is in charge of this Google-type company in the show, and his collaboration with the one in charge of the company will win the election in his favor. I feel more and more that House of Cards is what is happening in reality.
Starting point is 01:21:17 The speaker on the head there, I think. Damn, so telegram-y. Damn, damn. Many speculated that he went to look for Joe Rogan in Donald Trump's podcast on YouTube. But I tried and it went quite well. It came up first. I think there are a lot of things going on there, both in Google and Twitter. They talked about it, that there were some problems. For a while it didn't come up, that they didn't get the roof.
Starting point is 01:21:38 But they solved it. I think it was just... If there was some problem... I think it just went up on X, on early Twitter, and after that I think YouTube changed. If I had been a team with Trump, I would have said that I have one condition, I have to have a stillness requirement, and that is that we don't put it straight out, we have to get permission to go through this once before it's over. But you guys, I actually have to go up and play another podcast,
Starting point is 01:22:03 Leseklubben, if you like books and heroin, I'm reading the book Heron Cheek, which is damn good. Jesus, Marie-Josphon. And I'm talking about it on NRK, the NRK player. Leseklubben, after that. You have a lot of podcasts today. Yes, I like podcasts. So it's just a project, I'm just reading a book.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Cool. I'm enjoying it. Then there is Harstad, and then there is Stockmarknes today, when the person is released. Will this one arrive now, before it arrives on Friday? It will arrive on Friday, yes. Then there is Stockmarknes, and then there is Leknes on Saturday afterwards. And then there are not so many places I should go, so it's Lillestrøm, it's Moss, it's Fredrikstad, it's Larvik, at least. Very nice, Ole.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Very nice that I got to come. I think it's nice. I think you are one of Norway's funniest people, so I have seen you in the same room for an hour and a half. Cool. It was very nice to talk to you, and I look forward to seeing you on stage. I will bloom, hopefully, in the future. So I would like to be a plug there. First and last, if anyone has booked a stand-up, please send me a message on Instagram. Just get me on stage. I think it's fun to have fun.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Jim, thank you for coming in and saving this podcast. We'll get through this. That's good. Nice to be with you as always. Now I'm going to make an announcement for Gladiator 2. and that's the easiest thing I've ever done in my life. I'm so looking forward to it. Yes, because you mentioned that you're in the front row. It's up to me. Okay.
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