Fladseth - #220 - Juleavslutning med gamle venner

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Do you think we can watch this together? Yes, I think this one. The Loggins family counts 8 people and there is always more life to be had than a small apartment. Yes, I think so. Suddenly one day, dad Larry Loggins loses his job at the coal mine. And this is the start of a hopeless and distressed battle to get out of the government's cold brain. Can't we all watch TV2 Play? The Christmas calendar is fun. Stream more of what you really want to see. Try TV2 Play for only 29 kroner per month.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Yes, and then the last one. It's Christmas, the end. A very good one. And before anything is taken away, I will just... There will be a new round with low culture. This is a damn stand-up show that I've talked so much about. And it will be absolutely terrible. How fucking terrible is it? I don't know. The worst. A place in Norway that I will read about. February 18th, a new stage and filming of the show. February 13th and a little tour of the drama, Kulturs, February 14th new scene again, more filming February 15th
Starting point is 00:01:11 Ole Bull in Bergen, March 6th Trondheim, March 7th Silden in Kristiansand, March 8th and then the show is over, it's over so the tickets are out, Henrik Flatset ticket is out. You can get it now. Cheers guys! It's an episode with two old friends who can't have their names on the internet. But they are called Magnus and Jon.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Or I call them Jury and Kjell. We've known each other for years. And here we are going to have some Christmas fun before we go to Lorri and the Christmas tree with the boys. That will be nice. How are you? Good. Great. We are old Svensensgatigenge. We had a collective up in Svensensgatigenge before. I had lived in Råttereier in Vestsensgatigenge.
Starting point is 00:02:01 And you had had a better choir, so you were dissatisfied. You had a downgrade, because it was a bit of a relief. I was in heaven when I moved up there. There was a big difference in how happy we were with this solution at the beginning. The lady sat on some Bugge Vessel-toft yesterday, and said, I know Bugge Vessel-toft, if I know Bugge Vessel- yesterday. I said, do you know Bugge Wesselhoff? The pianist. Because he lived in... We shared a small backyard in the old... I lived on a small street in Wesselhoff. We shared a backyard and I already had, I can say, three square meters. You had a bed and a chair, right?
Starting point is 00:02:41 It was so much to complain about. I lived there for about 20 years. I borrowed the shower once. There was so much to complain about. And there was a hole in the bottom of the shower cabinet. And there was only a glass plate on top of the hole. I was so scared that I would crash when I stood there. It's true that you couldn't have known if you had taken a shower there.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I can confirm that. It's important. The worst shower he had. And I heard the entrance door, after someone had tried to knock himself in. A lot of Ola have been guests there. They have been in there. He has been in there once and if I remember correctly, he has told us about it. But before I say it, Bugge Wessloff, he was breathing his balcony up,
Starting point is 00:03:29 out in the backyard, and if I didn't have the damn thing, he would have people breathing the balcony day and night. So I was lying there every morning, just locking the window, carrying my bag over the window, and just screaming to get it out. There is someone who has it! Vessna! It was a bit of a day. I never heard of Vessna. He was at his practice room and played piano.
Starting point is 00:03:58 What's his name? He lives in the Swedish capital. He was smoking a beer. Moncler. Moncler. The back of Moncler. We have to shout out to him. He was a real man.
Starting point is 00:04:12 He saved a couple of Norwegian games with a curve with a beer from the floor above a couple of times. He shot down a little curve. He shot down beer and what we had to have. Do you have Sig or Mon or some clothes, you got a beer with a cigarette down there, I remember. It was really nice. That was when your career started to take off, so you started to get some fans at that time. Really? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:04:36 It was actually good times, I remember. I remember I made money on these companies and jobs. I drove down to Drammen once. I remember that job. There was one guy, I think, I think I said he was in Odin Soldater. That old one. And I had a joke about Odin Soldater afterwards, because he looked like, he looked a bit more extreme, I remember. And he put a look in my eyes. And it was like, I had a stand-up in the premises of a company. And I remember I was sitting with a look of murder. He was sitting in the first row. And if the look could kill, he would have killed me. I saw him immediately.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Those are the things I remember. I remember you were waiting there while I was driving. It was... Good times. I borrowed your Mac, Jón. Do you remember? I downloaded an old game I played when I was young. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I remember you had a team hospital. I remember you sitting in the living room on that broken table. Crumpled over the table and playing Team Hospital. Dungeon Keeper, Team Hospital. The old games, damn, good times. And Mats Sola, who broke the damn table too. Mats Sola! The table and the TV.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I also lived with Mats Sola. He had had, he had managed to get along fine, but he had his old friends too, had his years. And he in Vestelsgatet, where we lived a year. He came home to play some games. He had a plan to smash the invitations with his head.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Like a fucking hole table. That was his plan from the time he was born. He had several holes in the walls, doors and the living room table. If you looked a little closer, you would know who he was. Because no one has such curly hair as he did. At least not like the one who lived there. So it was... It was just... He just slid down. Hair and... Drawing on his face.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Now you remember Juris Electro down in the basement. You sold headsets and TV screens from... It was pretty cool. From the contest. It was a pretty cool contest. Did we get to talk about that? I don't think so. We did.
Starting point is 00:07:02 It was pretty cool. I was down at Trilleborg and picked up some stuff from the contest and moved down to the village. I remember it was a blue, big, blue trolley. We were there about one and a half. Which was full of old PC screens and shit and shit, and windows and shit? Yeah, sold it on film. If you had been a total fool, you would have just stood in the street as a mafia boss in New York in the 1920s, who threw the balcony windows back into the truck, to the poor people.
Starting point is 00:07:40 You would have sat with your trowels and given it to... Cold center headset and old screens. How long have you lived here? A year? I was with you for a year. I was supposed to help you and Jon. I came home from Trondheim and then I moved to... Asia, I think. To move to Sønnspeng. You were trying to get out of the laundry. You thought I was trying to get out. I went to Trondheim to wash there. This is going to be very intimate, but we'll just have to hang on.
Starting point is 00:08:11 This is the life we're talking about. Many people recognize this. We had our outdoor camp, which we called Søllereven. A very nice old man. And he was nice too. He was the dream of his mother-in-law, with grey hair and white hair. He was 70. White hair and white beard. I think he has grown a lot. He has grown a lot in his youth and his adult life.
Starting point is 00:08:34 He always came home from Spain. He was always in Storbrunn. He has always been in Spain. If he still has a foot in his dick, he will grow a lot. He is a scoundrel. But he is a scoundrel. If he doesn't do the halter to the economic, does he? No, no, no. If someone hasn't paid the rent. But he was very angry, you know. We saw his true face when we were washing out. We thought we had done a good job, and then he sat down, the one, now I'm just going to... a little girl, a little girl,
Starting point is 00:09:00 who doesn't look like a pig, and came in there, and just the first thing he does is come in the door and start to snap. Okay, here we are going to wash here. It was a military inspection, yes. And then I was on the bus, or not on the bus, but on the railing in the military. Military inspection, I just realized that this is business for him, because he understands that here... The only little thing is a couple of hundred and a couple of thousand extra. Yes. It wasn't the first time I saw a two-faced person.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But we were young, and one of life's lessons. Never trust a nice person. So they don't feel good. Because they can quickly show off. Why don't you wear a headset? Is it a kind of a veteran thing? Is it a kind of veteran thing? That's why it's a bit strange. Is it a kind of veteran thing or are you going to wear it?
Starting point is 00:09:49 You don't have to. If someone is to blame, it's me, because I'm the one who should hear that it sounds good. It sounds good. How have you been this year with the podcast? Have you had good work? As I usually say, this shouldn not supposed to be good before... How long are you going to say that?
Starting point is 00:10:08 I've started half a decade and said I'm not supposed to be good before I've been 15-20 years. But if possible, I will talking about taking money from my company and employing heads that can get both booking and spalters and everything. You don't have one like… what's his name? Joe Rogan? Jamie? Jamie, yes. I have Jim here, but Jim is too big, you know. He's the boss here. He's the half-Greek, isn't he? I'm not a half-Greek. Constantine O'Connor? He is the boss of the old No, her mother told her that Jim found a Greek once in a while, but I don't know. Greek genes come from the father. Jim is going to... It's on IAO.
Starting point is 00:11:08 A summer on IAO. Jim was in the last episode, so towards the end I just guessed that you might want to have a moussaka on Christmas Eve. That's not quite right. With a little Nellig speaker in the pudding. I had Greek Christmas. It wasellig speaker in the pudding. I've had a Greek wife, it was Kalkun on Christmas Eve. It's Kalkun, yes.
Starting point is 00:11:29 You're married, you're actually almost married. Yes, I'm half Greek myself. Have you got a Greek wife? A woman you've decided on? It's quite different temperament. Do you want to throw a little sandal sandal if you don't want to get hurt. It's not long before a mosaic. A bad mosaic.
Starting point is 00:11:53 You don't let go of much of that. I hate it when it fits, but I need it. It's important. Good. I'll get it myself. These women guys, they can't live without them. You know what? My girlfriend Oda, you know her well, but you know this. Oda has started... Have you said it's okay? I asked if it's okay. It's like the standard show where you deliver the most, right?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yes, but she thinks it's fun. She likes to be mentioned, but it's rarely negative. It's just a bit funny. She's become a sumo wrestler. Sumo wrestler? Isn't that the least weight? Yes, but I've seen on some Reels that sumo wrestlers have become very slim. It's not just the barefights. What's the thing is that you're going to push the other one out of the circle? The breakers have become very, very slim. It's not just the bear fat. What's the thing is that you're going to push the other one out of the circle?
Starting point is 00:12:48 What we found out, what we found out, that Oda has a very violent nature side, but also through many years with… You are actually a pretty bad breaker, because you are very top heavy. Yes, you are top heavy. Okay, you have to go down now. You have to find the right form. Because everything is in the legs. You start in the hip. You start in the hip.
Starting point is 00:13:10 If you don't jump, you start in a deeper position. You have to go down a lot to get the weight. Then you start by cracking one of your thighs. Crack the other one. CHAA! So the crack is to crack you like a crab. Then you crack sideways on the leg. And that's a ritual before you start.
Starting point is 00:13:35 And then you start. And then it's all about getting the shirt off. Suddenly he has a really grippy shirt. Really grippy shirt. And then you're going to shoot the bastard over the line. And this is just... It was just normal. You have long arms, so you may have an advantage. A wide reach.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I hope I wasn't a good suber. Thai boxing. I think with a target training, I would have been a good kickboxer. Thai boxing, kickboxer, that's you. I think so. I see the problem. I think it's like wrestling, theater wrestling. That's what I've been thinking. That's true. I've never seen that.
Starting point is 00:14:13 She's going to try to reach the end of the sumo break. I don't think many people can do that. No. Women in sumo. We talked about it. Here she can be… We also talked about how Oda should find a niche where we can be curious about her talent. And then we talked about thrilling. That there are not very few female magicians. That's the ground. But think of sumo breaking. If you become… I mean Oda is a kind of fan. What a place you can meet. Young people sitting there,
Starting point is 00:14:49 you have a really good female swimmer who is just... Maybe if you mix it with OnlyFans? I was thinking about that. Something like a pig sitting down in Japan. That you don't get that blister and manage to tie it up. Especially in the blister. We'll leave you with that. At the beginning of the story.
Starting point is 00:15:06 We were just kidding. We didn't want to make any big jokes, but just a little bit of a joke. She was just waving her toes and filming. And I thought, you have to have more than that. So we never filmed anything, because it was in some place in some archive. Just filmed some toes. You are maybe… But then you were talking about… You were talking about that I should start to get into it and stuff. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I can film it here, and if it's more money, it's very good. It's not more money. You have to get a little more out of it. The word out there. It's a big market. But… I don't know much about the sumo breaking in Norway. No, it's a very small environment, but they are keeping up with us.
Starting point is 00:15:49 So she has been on one, observed more or less one training. And then I was with Lasse, our friend Lasse, I should say. And then it became like he, I can be a little crazy, you know. So he has me to think about, know. So he has me to think about it a bit. He has me to think about it when I feel that Oda has started to break down in a bigger way than I do, because I'm kidding. So then I'm like, I refuse to take this seriously. And I have to be serious about that she has started to break down.
Starting point is 00:16:19 It's very nice that she... And it doesn't work to take it 100% seriously. Have you been to training already? Have you signed up? One training. And then I get a bit confused about that. You had one training in a break. You can't talk about this like that. And that was the first time I talked to her. Cool that she gets some support from Lasse. Lasse is a core character.
Starting point is 00:16:43 You have to say from when you started your first tournament. I went to kickboxing with Erik Øset. After about half a year or so I signed up for a tournament that was supposed to be a light contact. You were supposed to mark where you were fighting. So I met up there when it was a place in the city. And then I came into the place and there were people yelling at each other. So it was like, the easy contact thing, nobody cared. So suddenly I was in the ring and had to fight a guy from Hamar.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And all the technique and what you had learned was completely forgotten at once. So it was just a shit kick. So I managed to beat him first. You did? Yes, the bastard from Hamlet. And with all the technique out, you just hit him and scream like crazy? I remember I got a real front kick in my stomach. And then I got a little on my back foot and I got a nice gale on it.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And in round two, you're supposed to, it's three times three minutes, I think. And when you're so nervous, you forget to breathe. So then you don't get enough oxygen in your body, so I was completely exhausted after the first one. It took 10 minutes and then I was back in the ring. And then it was against Erik Øseth. And that is a friend of ours from the old... He has become a false-hermetic soldier. He is really... I would say he is the one in the ring. So then I got a Christmas. It was right out. And then I stopped.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Never come back to training after that. I had one broken workout in my life, but martial arts is not my thing. With darts and pills. I haven't had a good time. I have thought about it, but I think everyone has dreamed about it. I think there is one guy who hasn't dreamed about having fighting skills to take a whole bunch. MMA, UFC, what is a real UFC? What did I dream about many times? I had one dream where I banged a bunch of 15-20 people outside the old Rehman on the balcony. Or at Karlsruhe. Brattlegall. Where we lived.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And I remember it. I felt like I trained myself up in the dream. It got better and better. More realistic. I remember dreaming it several times. It sounded like a dream of a king. Did you want to fight in Ruste? I think I always wanted to. You just wanted to watch it?
Starting point is 00:19:13 I think I don't know. I think I almost just talked. I can't do it anymore. I remember we had a real fight at Inland, when it was all bus vs bus. It was those golden ticket guys we fought against. I remember I had one vs one. I had one vs one with a guy who planned. A duel? Yes, a duel. Oh, I see. I remember those things.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Did you win? Yes, I didn't even take my jacket off. I remember that. Did you go out to the victory? Yes, I didn't see you guys. You were sitting on the bus. I don't remember. You had a duel in your ear. No, it was a guy who hit me in the neck. I was trying to climb with a lady on a bus. And then other guys drove on the bus and fired up. It was Rolf who went to school with my daughter. He was not the one I fought with.
Starting point is 00:20:04 He was firing up and was the intermediary. He arranged the high-speed train. Yes, and then it became clear that he fired up. He was keen on banking me. I never understood why. And then there was supposed to be one against one, with me and him. And I remember we got up with the bus there, stormed out of the bus. Yes, that's what I thought. You took it a Gregor? I was so scared when I got out there.
Starting point is 00:20:30 It was a wrestling scene, the door opened and I was out there fighting with a friend. You don't want to be hit in the back and you don't want to be safe around help. There are very few failures in the victory that counts. I shouldn't be scared of the strong guys on the bus in the front, that if something goes wrong, you have to come in and help. But I managed myself, so it went well. But it's always when you watch movies and a duel is cancelled by the others breaking in, and helping their king.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Very, very reasonable, of course. I remember I sat in the bus and heard some damn good guys talking, Very, very So I ran, and I was down the hill, I ran, and I jumped, and took a double fly kick in the chest, so he fled away. And then I landed, I had a bag of beer in my hand, I landed, I took, I fished up a full half liter, and shat right in the head on a guy. And then it was a fight, and then it was a fight, and then we were done with it, and everyone was kind of okay with it, but the dwarf in Game of Thrones, who just goes out to fight and the guard is up there doing his thing. I remember that there were some things, but I think I was never keen on those things. I don't remember what I was doing. You were talking to me, you were joking and drinking something. I have never been particularly upset by those things.
Starting point is 00:22:30 We have. I have been more upset than you. That's how it went. Yes, I was 18. That's very possible. I actually remember a little from Russia. I remember another time. we met on the same bus we were fighting with them all the time, we met them at the SO on Rygen.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And then you were out there, and I think I was talking to a guy who I didn't know where the SWA was, and he looked down at me, and said, do you know what's going to happen now? And I thought, damn, now it's going to be a mess.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And then I just heard him behind me, Do you know what's going to happen now? He turned around and I stood there, and I screamed. So I took my pulse and when I got home, he was just standing there, You always had someone you knew a little who was just a big hit.
Starting point is 00:23:20 So you could send into the war. Each bus had one of those, what was it called, shirts, when you just, is there double-eyelid, saying, Are you the battle-fighters? Everyone had my own little blower, for example. Blower with LSD. They talked about it, I think they talked about it in the Bear with Beg podcast. They mentioned the blower and I was thinking about how the windpipe is very widespread in Asia, in the jungle. So they run around with windpipe and stand behind a tree and blow their hair, a projectile in the throat.
Starting point is 00:24:16 But the reason we don't hear so much about windpipe anymore in the western world is because we rarely see it. We rarely see the windmills. Imagine if you have a transparent ampoule that triggers a heart attack. So there are people standing on each street corner with a damn… A parable. It's the back of the parable. Or a stick. Or a pipe in McDonalds cup. And the words are up there and send a small transparent pulse that triggers a heart attack. And then an ambulance comes and says, we can't save his life. It was a clear heart attack. You mean it's used, but you don't see it?
Starting point is 00:24:58 You see it, it blows. You find that little girl, who is sitting in his neck. Then you have to go to an obduction to find her. But you never take... I think that Alexander Dale-Oen, the old swimmer, gets a latent heart failure for example. So it's not a heart attack, but if there is a rush of a financial stop that needs to be taken out, then nobody will send you to the surgery.
Starting point is 00:25:29 If there is a heart attack on the street, the blood vessel operator knows when to put the blood vessel in. When the doctor is out on one of your joints, one of your joints this year, then he puts a pill in his neck and triggers a heart attack. And there is nothing that and triggers a heart attack. And that's not the most seductive thing to do. No. When he comes straight from a cigarette and whiskey party and goes out to have a party on a walk. On the way home from Christmas Eve. Or on the way home from Christmas Eve.
Starting point is 00:25:59 We have to watch out for tonight, at least. But aren't you the most stupid person in the world who likes this? No, I think so. I think the Russians have've ever seen? No, I think so. I'll go and see if the Russians have any blisters. I think so. And this is not some Bamboo shit. The blisters themselves are almost transparent. And you have camo on you. So it's very difficult to spot a blister. I have a KGB still. It's called to spot a blower out there. I have KGB still.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Or is it? FSB is also called. FSB is also called. And there is an FSB devil sitting in a little crate. Mixing out some heart-infected doses. It comes straight from the lab. Where do they take it and we limit it? Or do they probably get into...
Starting point is 00:26:42 They have it in the... They have it in their snusbox. They hide like samar, so they can come over with rain gear. Or they just have it in their... They are so thin that they have it in their skin. In fake skin hair strands. Then there is one such ampoule. They are so thin, the guys there.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Such things. Okay. If we are going to talk about a future that is now split, which is a split I have, then I can inform you about... I saw, damn, I got shocked, but there are some Japanese, a lab in Japan,
Starting point is 00:27:24 where researchers have developed a substance, an injection, which makes people grow a third set of teeth. So if you lose a tooth, an adult tooth, then the grub starts to grow a new one. Have you heard of it? No, it's not the sickest thing I've heard. No, but I can kind of… That we had the ability to do that. But why should you grow it and then screw it back in? No, this is… It's not like a plastic set or what you use, I have seen with fake teeth. There are things happening in a very sensitive environment in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So I would think that it has something to say that you have original teeth instead of... I don't think so. I think they are pretty nice, now those porcelain teeth. You should have gold teeth. I don't know if this is right. Don't you think your damn teeth have something in them, some substance that triggers some enzyme that is in them? I don't know. Do you get a new line behind and change it regularly? Or is it one way? If this is true...
Starting point is 00:28:42 Was it an investor prospect you got on Gmail? No, I mean, my shield is, and they are often in this podcast, they are a bit thin, but I saw on one of them, was an Instagram account, a lady who is checking out some research around the world, and it seems pretty legit. If you get a big mouthful and all the teeth are smoking, you will then, with this injection, grow a new set. And how they grow, if it's like, have you seen the sketch with the bad copies of Kato Sahl Pedersen, the old climatic skit. The more new records you get, the worse it gets. Then you have to come up with something early in the growth period, then you have to come up with some regulation and get them back in place. Maybe milk teeth first?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Then you have to get a new set of milk teeth. You have to go through the whole cycle. If you miss the milk teeth. You have to do something all the time. If you miss milk teeth, you are... If you miss the teeth, you will have some pimples on the tip of your milk teeth. Imagine how stupid an adult is. I mean, I think about my son and you as a child, Jon. When the teeth get so big, but the head is not completely followed, it's a bit too big teeth.
Starting point is 00:30:04 That's my son. My son starts to be like that. He understands and doesn't understand a shit of it if I complain he gets it. But just a friend. Your teeth are unprofessional, especially in the head now. Yes, yes, yes. That's how it's supposed to be. Just against him. When an adult man or woman...
Starting point is 00:30:20 Adult man with milky teeth? An adult... A handsome adult man with milk teeth? The grown man with milk teeth. He never smiles, except for your teeth. He wanted to get... The grown man with self-esteem, losing all his teeth, has to grow milk teeth. Then he gets that reggae lip over his head. He doesn't dare to show that. But if I say it's right... I'm not sure what kind of injection I'm talking about here,
Starting point is 00:30:51 but I think this can easily be done with some CRISPR technology anyway. You can get some gene material from some animal that can grow out of your hands forever. Shouldn't you be able to grow it on a substitute? You grow it in a lab and then just screw it in, instead of growing it yourself? Yes, of course. I don't know if that's the first thing you're good for. I don't know if I invest. No, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Do you have anything... I have to say that I'm a bit afraid to become a cyborg. I have now bought myself a Garmin watch. You are pulling some sleep. The first step towards cyborgs. Yes, but listen. Hear me out. I have bought myself a Garmin watch, I am pulling some sleep, and when I run on the mill, just to get some pulse measurements.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I can't walk all the time. So I bought blood sugar diabetes measures, just to check how blood sugar is affected by different infections in a month. Where do you measure it? You put a chip on the back of the arm, on the back of the triceps. Like you always have it there? It has to be there for two weeks. And then you take it out. Do you have it now? No, I'm going to put it on one Christmas or maybe... You have to put it on now, then it's fun.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I'm going to put it on now to get a real spike. Yes, but now I'm going in on a trick. It's better to start high and then see the progression. Yes, maybe I'm going to put it on the little Christmas Eve. I'll do that. Yes, I agree. What did you have to do last time you were down in France with me? You had to change a tooth time you were down in France?
Starting point is 00:32:25 You had to change a tooth. No, you had to show them. You went around and complained about that tooth. You had a tooth that was dry around your head. You couldn't eat. As if you were a sister to Emil Lundberg. I was drinking with that last restaurant. It was a disaster that could happen.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Then there was a whole crisis. You went to in Italy. It was a big crisis. You started to get angry. Yes, I did. You get 95% of your happiness through your mouth, so it was a big crisis for you when you couldn't eat good wine and meat in France. You know what? I could actually drink good wine and enjoy the family son at the Italian restaurant we were at, plays the latest tones on the piano. And a bit of their piss-talk. But the pizza was just insane to get to spit in your mouth. Yes, I'm very happy for that. But yes, I think it's not many years yet. You have such aura rings. Do you want more beer?
Starting point is 00:33:21 Aura? Or a small glass of wine? Take a small glass of wine. Who is it? Aura. There is no one who orders beer here. We have to take our shoes when we come in. So it's a bit like this. Here is beer.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I'll promise. Beer! They have wine on beer test. You have to get it. The first thing you have to get is a sommelier that goes to fill the glasses. Yes, when I'm going to put on... Put on it. It's cool to have a stand for a Jamie, and you have a friend who laughs.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Yes, agree. So you're in the north? Cheers! As you can see. I agree. I agree that I should probably go to the crossroads and film the show. The talk show is dead, right? But you see that the podcast, which is actually talk shows, in the US won the election for Trump in many ways, it has become huge, because you can sit and talk freely for hours.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Who are you going to win the election for? No, but it will be Mimie Kristiansson. I was out with Mimie Kristiansson on Tuesday, and he promised to come on the podcast. He is a fat guy to talk to. He is a talker for the liver, and he has published a book about alcoholism and that it is in the family. And now he is not even bothered to take an beer in public. It is a fortunate thing. As long as you manage to do your job, most of the voters in Norway are not willing to take 7-8 beers or a couple of beers.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It wasn't even a church. and they are not prepared to drink 7-8 bottles of beer or a couple of bottles of wine. It's not Churchill either. It's not Churchill either. But yes, and aura ring or whoop belt and such things, it's the same as the Garmin watch. Yes, a ring. Yes, a ring, they measure the optical pulse measurement, they measure how the blood flows through the brain. Yes, how much oxygen is in the blood. the and the blood tells you. And then you want to make a map, both of potential diseases on the way,
Starting point is 00:35:28 and how your general shape is, your biological age, everything. This would be able to be tracked and measured all the time. And it is clear that it is exhausting to be a cyborg. No one says that it is a responsibility you take on yourself. But I think it is a bit exciting as well. It's a bit exciting to see what you actually... I mean, all organs perform a function. I thought your lungs are... I mean, this is probably quite farfetched. But your lungs... The job of your lungs is to bring oxygen into the blood.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Yes. I thought you would just have a real wave and a couple of air intakes in your neck, which just soaks through. Then you have to connect that to the whole system. You can just have a real whistle and a couple of air intake in your neck that just goes away. Then you have to connect it to the whole system. Yes, that's for sure. You have to buy a pass. But they do buy a pass. They change the heart.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I have a guy at work who has to change the hip with a titanium hip. It's insane. I've talked a lot about this in the podcast. When I get to a certain age. You have to change a whole chassis. My wife took to change her hips here. And that's one thing, to change one hip. But when you first start with that thing, you change the whole thing around the pick.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Maybe even the pick. Oh damn, that's nice. You change the whole thing from the half-child to me. The last thing I changed was the pick. The pick? You like that? Can I take a chance on that? As many as he needs, my friend and colleague... Are you going to change the pick?
Starting point is 00:36:45 The pick? Yes. No, but... You can take the pick off, and you can put it under your arm, and it grows a lot. That you have a quarantine for a few months. Have you used the pick? Or have you used it under your arm? No, I'm lying in a little hunk on a little butt. So you can't fuck or rub something on your parmant.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And then you have to pee through the big red 50cm and damn the kick! Is it about the ball now? The kick in one arm and the ball in the other? I don't think anyone is tired with the ball. I think the kick is a bit harder. And you can get a perfect equal has a standard bit of it. He is a bad, squashed man. He has got an identical discharge of his dick as a hand-holding on the squash-leg. And it's Ingrid who is going to stop him. There is something about it. you don't know anything about it. It's fascinating in the design world, how optimized the body is. How beautiful and functional a knee is, and how complex a knee is, for example.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I don't know much about that. When you design things, you often want to mimic how nature, your body, has a result of several billion years, or at least one billion years of development and design. Optimization through billions of years. How do you implement that in superyacht design, Magnus? It's form, follow, function. So it's modern Da Vinci way of thinking. The is maybe put there, but you use the animal world. The ectomals are like the spikes that flow through the water. It's like the best penetration in the water. What was that? You have had...
Starting point is 00:38:51 Magnus has been working on making sofa cushions and kitchen towels for the yachts. Inspired by Dombera Cani. That consistency, that's a good feeling about it. You have a good feeling about it. You have a good feeling about it. I think that was a master technique, when you took double daggers and raced the loop. It was just a field research. That was good. You have started to get AI to design different things, especially on functions.
Starting point is 00:39:30 There was a case where they put a lot of sensors on a car chassis. And they drove that car chassis around the track for several thousand rounds to get all the data input. And then they put all that data into an AI that designed the chassis. The chassis is then... The one that is not the car body... The one that is not the spoiler. Yes, it is the car body inside and the chassis outside the car body.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Is that right? Torso. It's not torso, it's the skin. The chassis becomes cheleterite. It's not a chassi, it's the skin. The whole shit. Chassi becomes your shell. And then you have the skin. And then you have the skin. Yes, that's good. The shell is chassi. And what came out was a shell that looked like a kind of a flywheel.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Is that what you say? Because when a flywheel jumps, it has a bolt-stand on all the extreme points, which becomes the wheels, right? Yes. So then you see that when you go full scale. We as designers or the human being who have a, let's say you have half a year to design a beat, so a year, can't process all the inputs, but when you have an AI that can do infinite calculations, then it starts to go back to nature again. It's quite interesting. Yes, but everything about AI is super interesting.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And if you haven't put anything into it, you don't quite understand where it is going either. But back to medicine, where you think AI can make the most impact in the next order. So, when you feed an AI with a lot of data, an AI can spot a lot of stuff. This can be done on a psychos, but it can also be done privately. It will be a luxury thing, but if you manage to feed an AI with all potential fall-downs, everything you have to be careful of, okay, now it's a little high there,
Starting point is 00:41:26 and a little high there, and a little low there, then it can mean that and that and that and that. It's actually, what is quite revolutionary is simulations, when you, let's say you're going to design a boat, so you design a scrog, and then test, so out of like,
Starting point is 00:41:44 the experience you have, and early work, and blah blah blah. And then you test the sketch, and then you find a few things, and then you do maybe one, two, three revisions. You don't have time to do one million revisions, right? No, no. But if you can do that in an AI, then you can do several billion simulations and come to a result that is much, much more advanced than what we can do. Simply because of the time and the number of times they can run the simulation. That is what is interesting about quantum computing, that you can think that it is ten potency. Yes, yes, it's crazy. It's quite open-minded, but at the same time it's so crazy what's going to happen there,
Starting point is 00:42:27 that it's worth talking about it, even though my understanding of it is certainly not... I understand the thing, I understand what the potential can be, without understanding it in the basic sense. But I mentioned it to you, Magnus, that AI makes art, whether it is a good or bad thing. And then you can of course say that I am both. But what is maybe the fetus, that I see with AI, is that you can prompt AI, or whatever you say, to make an artwork that covers a whole wall with art that is made up through and where all the artworks flow into each other in a cool way. Things like that are cool.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Where you can take the coolest artists, the coolest works, and make a big artwork based on all of them. And then of course there are big problems with an AI. You can feed the AI with all the monk has made and then just make more monk. That's shit. But that's then... You can make something new with inspiration from monk. I think AI must be seen as a tool. So if the artist plus AI, what can they make? If AI just makes something on their own, then it's not... So then you take a little of... At least for me, I think it's like, okay, you know that there is not so much effort in it.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yes, and then there is... I think that a work of mankind will... I mean, we notice such things. I don't think it goes so fast that we can't notice what is with mankind and AI. Of course, in some cases it will happen, but I think that the human work will be worth something in a completely different way, for the sake of humanity. At least for as long as possible. But what are the values in Harding, if we don't... I don't think AI will fail in the way we will continue to be human. We are the boss.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I don't believe that we will lose control completely. At least not before maybe a hundred years. Maybe it will be a challenge. Isn't that the same? Yes, maybe it is the same. I don't know. Do you use a lot of chat-chip in T-shirts or something like that? No, you know what? I actually have it on the to-do list now.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I will load the last version and point out what it will be. It's not quite how it works. It's not a program you load, Henrik. No, but it's... You're a real person. You don't even learn it on the PC. You learn it and then... You use it, or...? I use it a lot. What do you do, for example? I can use it for everything.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I do a lot of recruiting, and I write job placement announcements, for example. And I can sit there, I'm good at writing them, but I can do it a lot faster. I can translate things in a much better way. I do a lot of research, because I see a lot of different companies and businesses. Instead of spending 10 hours reading about the company, I can just give me the short version. So I can, with my limited brain, push through a lot more information in a short time. And produce a lot more information in a short time.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So now I have... I have always opened Chat-Chip 10. So I have gotten a new browser, just to have two f***s open next to each other every time. So I have Chat-Chip 10 on one side, and what the f*** am I doing on the other side? Exactly. It's totally sci-fi. The only difference between super sci-fi and what we're doing today is that we're actually writing stuff in.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But it's not far from you sitting there working and just talking to someone. I can do that now. You say or Alexa, Alexa, give me all you have info on, Birger Olsen & Søn, or whatever. Birger Olsen & Søn, A.S., everything on them. Now. You can do that. Yes, you can. You can talk to Churchy Petty. You can talk to him.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I heard about that in your podcast the other day, and you said you stopped listening to podcasts when you were walking, because then you're always in the plug-in. I felt really agree, I listen a lot to music. Music, collect some music. Yes, because I am also cut out for that. When you walk, you walk without any input. But you can walk with Chatchi Petit and have a conversation with them. Then you can supplement your thoughts with questions to Chatchi Petit.
Starting point is 00:46:42 That's totally wild. I'm a fucking nerd. A fucking nerd to talks to himself. If you ask someone, you ask Chatshipity and you get an answer. I think that one of the things that's important in the time we live in is to plan. One thing is to plan your day. Now I'm going to meet there and pick up the kids there. Plan...
Starting point is 00:47:00 Make a time plan for me for the day. No, but yes, I don't need to... Then you have to take the 19-dress and put it back. You have to remember that. You can do that too. You have to plan how you are going to think, especially in creative professions. This podcast, the reason why it often doesn't happen so much development, that I have two new red spots in each episode,
Starting point is 00:47:25 is a bit because I have been caught in content. So when I'm caught in music and podcast all the time, you don't waste time thinking about what would have been a nice spot for both. If you plan your thinking during a day, okay, now I'm going to go with Bisha for two hours, it should be ear-matched podcast thinking, how it should look like in the next half year. Such planning around how you think, how you use your head, I think that is important and can be a little game changer. I think it's a little difficult, we work creatively, I think it's a little difficult to schedule it.
Starting point is 00:48:01 For me, creativity works in a way that it comes and goes. If I say that I'm going to sit down and come up with a good idea, then it's difficult to schedule it for me, creativity doesn't work in a way that it will work. If I'm going to sit down and come up with a good idea, it's difficult to push it forward. But creativity works. But it's about setting the time for it. White space. Now I have two hours and I'm just going to let the homer suck. Research says that if you sit for ten minutes and think you should be creative, it doesn't work. You have to allow it to It comes after half an hour. An hour is when the flow begins.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Because your thoughts flow comes, and that's when the real work is in progress. And the hard part about writing a book is not writing the sentences, but setting yourself down for an hour every day. And set it to writing. Just. I feel it comes from other things. And then it's individual, of course. Yes, for me it comes from other things.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Now we have made a lot of companies through the years. Years in my hands, but it comes from looking at other things. It comes from that I'm doing some kind of process. I'm down in the Netherlands doing this and that. And that's where it comes from. Then the ideas come from doing the better tasks of that. Make that and that's where it comes from. Then the ideas come from doing better tasks, making that and that collaboration. So for me it comes from an intense stress
Starting point is 00:49:12 and being in a process. That's where creativity comes from. When Steve Jobs launched the iPad Mini... It's so nice that you compare me to him. You look very similar. You have to, exactly. I had the iPad mini. It's nice that you compare me to him. You have to, exactly. When he had the iPad mini, the smallest one, he was on stage and I always wondered what the little pocket on his jeans. And then I was like...
Starting point is 00:49:46 Now we finally understand. And then the button on my iPad. That's not something he pulls on the ass for 10 minutes. It's something that comes from thoughts and long walks. Just in contact with your head. Do you think so? But then it builds up on what he has done with that pocket. And a creative mind, an envisioner, of course, but it requires...
Starting point is 00:50:07 Do you think he would have been able to get to those things if he had some music and a podcast all the time? Or is it that he has been making this thing, and then he is small and then he says, like, damn, it fits in that little pocket and then it's like, I'm a recon, what are we going to do in the zone? Of course, I agree, it can come. But don't start with that pocket. No, don't start with that pocket.
Starting point is 00:50:26 No, don't start with the pocket. What is it? Should I just make it? But what is it? It can be. It's probably a couple of 20 kroner, right? I think the little pocket on jeans, a little condom.
Starting point is 00:50:44 We shouldn't forget that jeans are old work pants pocket on the jeans. A small condom? We should not forget that the jeans are old work pants. From the earth. From real land use work. So this was made for those who worked in the fields. Plowing the earth and what else. Baring high balls and... A cow! It is for a cow.
Starting point is 00:51:03 So maybe it was a small pocket for a special tool. A pocket watch? Or that they had a cow that they sold with their hands. Don't you think it's a pocket watch? We're talking a little bigger scale. Not an old house. Just a rose. No, but it was pretty cute.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Jeans. I think it's for the small money. For 50. I saw an Instagram, but I don't remember what it was pretty cool. Jeans. I think it's for both small money. For 50... I saw an Instagram post, but I don't remember what it was. But then they said what it was. I don't remember what it was. But it's something else. It's there for now.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I also have these... Now we have Des on the Christmas board. So I have these boots I bought. The boots. The boots. JM Martin. But those boots. Williams. They were the ones that were on was it. With the boots. Williams.
Starting point is 00:51:45 They were the ones that were on the premiere. I bought them. I got a lot of money for them. I got the money. Because the pants were too short. Oh, you got the money. No, it looked like it was unreadable. It looked like a lesbian handball coach from K-ball.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I think you're fine with that. It wasn't yours, it was heard. Because you picked it up. Okay, stop. Order! I think it's fine. Are we still in the future? Yes. Okay, order! Order!
Starting point is 00:52:05 Are we still in the future? Yes, yes. When it is first locked, it never locks again. That's the thing we are doing. Speaking of the future, you have a point in history where several different technologies have matured, for example when the car arrived. And when the iPhone arrived, there was battery technology, touchscreen technology, and connection technology. All of these different things became available at a time when it became possible to make the iPhone.
Starting point is 00:52:41 And now it seems like we are at a peak, where you have AI software, which is getting crazy, but then quantum computing comes in addition. It's a little fast about that. I don't know so much, but it's a different way of... No, this is going to be a little... It's quantum physics. You can do a lot more calculations than you can today. But then the question is different. Deep Blue, what is the name of the chess machine? Deep Blue.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Deep Blue from the chess machine? No, it's the first thing that struck people. Yes, and then we can talk about how that affects an environment. Deep Thought, I read that yesterday in a book. The original name for that software was Deep Thoth. But they had to change it, because it was compared with Deep Throat, which was a legendary porn movie from the 70's. Or just a very popular addiction method. The So far into the mouth? Yes. That was what they called the chess simulator in the end. Maybe it's the most gruesome thing people do. In many ways.
Starting point is 00:54:12 The most creepy thing we do is to use the stick-stick. So far down in the... We stick-stick a lot more later, Henrik. Yes, but it's something that prevails with it. I should have found it as deep as possible. You've seen it in the movie with Deep Rotting. It's never a nice Deep Rotting, it's never a romantic movie with cozy music. Very rare. It's not like that.
Starting point is 00:54:34 But I would like to see a very romantic Deep Rotting. I think it's still a bit... You can ask Aja. I'm looking forward to it. Are you our father or what? Oh my god. We are talking about the deep rotting. No, it's not that.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Wheel steers. What did you say? My point was that it was a program or an IBM program that they used to market for their computing properties. And they called it Deep Throat. They used it to market their computing skills. And they called it Deep Thought.
Starting point is 00:55:07 And then it was misunderstood as Deep Troll. So when they were around at conferences and stuff, they heard that people called it Deep Troll. They mixed them. Because that polo movie was clearly a hell of a polo movie. So they changed it to Deep Blue. That was really just what I was going to say. And Deep Blue, they thought they would make the chess finished. Because now it's just computers that play, it's not interesting anymore.
Starting point is 00:55:31 So it has shown that it has made the chess players use these computers to take their game to new heights and make a move that is quite progressive and fat, that opens up the chess game. For example, side-bottom, two forward, just to be able to march with the bottom on the flank. That kind of thing. Now you're getting it. Yes, now I'm getting it. I'm going to play, can I say, the 29th of December, I'm going to play the Lynchak Tournament
Starting point is 00:56:03 during the chess broadcasts on NRK. Are you going? Yes. No, Almås Vukievic, or what is her name? She is the old… The runner? The runner, yes. I don't want the old one.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I don't want the old one. I don't want the old one either. A young runner. Married to Vadim Davidov, the old football player, I don't know if it's the same one, and then there is Kaave Rashidia and a few different ones. I'm looking forward to it. December 29th. It will be Armageddon. Armageddon. You will crush those people there. No, they are good, you know. Many of them are good. And there is one, I can smoke on the first one.
Starting point is 00:56:41 There was a status now on AI against humans, AI far above. Yes, yes. But a few years ago it happened that humans managed to beat AI, because they don't have that intuitive... Isn't it like that? Yes, that was what I was going to say, the human aspect. But AI would then base itself on all the tricks that have been done before. So to get AI out of the smoothness, you have to trick the AI in a way.
Starting point is 00:57:06 But that is actually a good example of what I talked about in the case of simulations. If you do a pull, the AI can do one million, they can just count out all possible pulls, which is actually the chess property, right? If you manage to predict what is potentially the next pull.
Starting point is 00:57:22 So do it. But you can only do a... Magnus Carlsen can probably do it. Say, take a track or a number out of Ræva, a thousand simulations. But an AI can do a million or a billion. Magnus Carlsen can't do a thousand simulations. He can do it.
Starting point is 00:57:38 An AI can do a billion potentially. Exactly. So an AI would also like to see a trick track, possibly. So you come up with a new trick that he has not seen before, but he can still do it. You are not a trick he has not seen before. You can do a trick you have not seen before, but then it will be able to calculate all the thinks that she should trick her father. I'm just looking around this little sugar dung, you probably won't find it.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Do you remember when you were called in on the phone? Old telephone sales. Yes, I remember. Our first business was a coal center. I was inside that shit, in the marketing. You were tricking people. We didn't trick anyone. We sold pretty mobile devices to our contacts. And internet solutions. And internet solutions.
Starting point is 00:58:33 What were you going to say about Fonero? We had been a bit quick on the deal with Paradis Salgene. And then we were called in on the roof. And then they sat behind, they sat in the middle of the floor, two old men on the other side of the table and said You can't come here and try to teach the old man who should. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:58:56 That guy there. How old was he? He was probably 40, 50, physically. You were so young that he was so old. Yes, he was young and old. He drove that thing away. But that's an old Harry expression, which I don't think is so weird.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Or is it dad's joke? No, I think it's a crazy Harry. It's a real Harry. It's like the top of Harry. Yes, it's a bit of a honor. It's like a musical breath thing to say. He bit of a shame. It's like a lute-breath thing to say, I feel. He says it a lot. Sometimes when it gets too hard, it's more charming to do it in a certain way.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Do you think the lute-breath scares your grandmother? I don't know. If I'm going to guess, I think the lute-breath purrs a lot. He purrs in his tractors and he is a good pull on his ladies. I don't have to say anything bad about Lote Puss. I think he is a real king. He should have had this. Lote Puss. And then listen to what he says. Huh? Yes, take Lote Puss in here.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I think I have a podcast with him, Petter Pilger actually. Yes, he is a good friend of Møtsfar's father. Pilger is also a driver. He is a driver. Yes, so you have friends at the fair. Pilbård is also a machine driver. He is a machine driver. He is. He is a machine driver. He is working on a bus. He got that comment.
Starting point is 01:00:14 He has such a big impact on people that he has a machine. That's really good. We are going to have a day here. This will be the Christmas ending. I thought it would be nice to have a nice episode. You are two, you are good at what you do, but if people get a microphone in front of their mouths, or talk about a scene, it will be a bit different. I think we should get into it.
Starting point is 01:00:44 It's not so easy to let go of that. it will be a bit different. I think we will get there. A bit like you said at the beginning. It's not so easy to let go of that I want to talk a bit with people within the election, not just politicians, but try to understand some aspects of society. Talk a bit about industry, talk a bit about tech. To take you through some rounds with Chat-Chip in the first place. That's exciting. The problem is that I, and that's a problem with several podcast hosts, like Wolfgang W. gets a lot of criticism, and Rogan gets a lot of criticism, because you don't ask the guest enough questions or come up with counter questions. And in some cases it's about ignoring the criticism, because you don't
Starting point is 01:01:34 want to make the guest uncomfortable. I mean, it's a little fake. But often it's difficult to come up with critical questions when you don't know a lot about something. So I'm not going to pretend like anything. I'm going to be a little idiot in the room, asking simple questions. I'm not afraid to admit that I'm getting a little short on a lot. And I think a lot of people benefit from that. Because when you work with something, you don't have the capacity to be fucking good at everything else. You are often very blank on a lot of things. I think many politicians can be very light on a lot of things as well. And then you are forced to pretend that you can be light on everything. But I think you are faking a lot.
Starting point is 01:02:16 But some politicians are very open about it. One thing that I find interesting about politicians, which I saw Wolfgang Wee and Simon Welle on Arnalds week. And he said that in a debate you are not interested in listening to the opponent's argument. You have one minute to get your point, and that is your job. He is still a lot up in the podcast. It's interesting that the debate is often very defined by that. That they just sit and listen to what they want. So they are laughing about that podium over there. Yes, why can't you have a little more…
Starting point is 01:02:56 It would have been cool to have a discussion between politicians where they understood each other a little better. You tried to make a program in Norway, which was called... I don't remember the name of it. No one was blind to it? No, there were four opponents of opinion, who talked about one topic, and I think it was immigration and those questions there, you had one from the right side, and one there, and one there, and one that had jumped off, and was a Nazi before, and not anymore.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And then I thought, this is just what I've been looking for, but then it comes out pretty early, actually, you are pretty united, and it's the media and the press and the society, the driving force in the society that creates these things. So they actually agreed early, so then it wasn't interesting anymore. So that's interesting, that's pretty interesting actually. That we are pretty much in agreement here in Norway, but we also sell polarization. When I saw the news, Jonas Karstør and Sylvie Listerug, who were supposed to debate, I thought, they have probably been standing there for a quarter and waiting for them to
Starting point is 01:04:15 go on the show. What are they talking about there? Are they friends? In the background? Yes, are they friends before Sylvie goes to the gym, it's like a late ball slap on Jonas. I saw Sylvie and Jonas had a small debate during the day. Yes, that was the topic I was thinking about. You saw that. When they come up with their ideas about why you should vote for FRP, you see on the other side that this is just to want to find ourselves in. This is how we work with each other. That's how it is. But a goal is to try to have a connection with these types of guests and get myself to try to understand a little.
Starting point is 01:04:54 But also just try to... I have always been left-wing. You are far right. At least. Now you are far right. Then you get older and then it's like, I still believe that a society with very clear higher politics will forget those who are the weakest and then there will be also foreign class differences, which I believe are very harmful to the society. And that is the value I stand for, but I still stand for that, I mean it. At the same time, we need to manage the money from the oil and what we will earn money on the future of those things. We need some harder decisions, we need to look away from those feelings, right? The connection there is damn demanding, and it requires that you actually dive into the soup. And I don't know if I'll find something to eat, but I'm at least a little bit in the mood to just look for some common goals here.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Find common solutions where we can all work together. You can choose a couple of topics that you actually put in and then you get to that. Why should we... I agree with Sylvia Lisztau when I hear this debate. She's become good. I agree with her. Damn, it's the biggest... The wind power. I don't necessarily think that's the solution.
Starting point is 01:06:13 You can supplement with wind power, but it's not... When we talk about eternal energy and fusion and all kinds of things, that's not the solution in 10-20 years. Transition technology, I think. It's not the solution in 10-20 years. It's a transition technology. It seems like we have both positive and negative. If you want green energy, you have to get windmills. Windmills are very effective, and solar energy is very effective. And then there are a few birds that go to shit, and some are things that go wrong. But... Again, I agree with Støre,
Starting point is 01:06:46 she is a populist and she says that she either should stop the argumentation and cut out all the green projects, all the atom storage stuff and all, atom, carbon storage and all that and then you give the money to
Starting point is 01:07:02 the ones who need it the most. It doesn't work like that either, it's so easy. So you try to find out about it and then there's a lot of jokes and stuff. I'll try to get some guys to do it, but I think it's as fun to talk to. Or be a little more out in the city and try to get some guys who have some crazy stuff to say. Really characters. We talked about what we came have there, city originals. You will get that on your agenda.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Get an ax with a pipe and a pear with a trowel and your own. We'll see. An eternal problem is that you have a lot to do. But I think it helps to free your mind and not always be locked in the content, but actually use your head. And I notice that on the days I really just walked around and used my head, it freed up so much capacity. So that is at least my tip for if you want to make some changes for the next year, to actually try it. See what kind of effect there is. Free your head, so that's there are. And free your mind. So that's your tip.
Starting point is 01:08:05 It's uncomfortable to free your mind. Yes, it's uncomfortable for a while, because you're used to being stimulated. So when you don't get stimulated, it just feels very insecure in a way. You get restless about it, and just like, what the hell am I used to having any stimuli? But use a little time in it, and you'll find some kind of mental illness, a super power in you. You can look at it as either you consume it, and you will find a mental illness, a super power in you. You can look at it as either you consume or you create. And that's a balance, right? Most people don't create.
Starting point is 01:08:32 No, no. But if you consume, you don't create, as you say. But if you are going to create something, you must not consume. Yes. You can use consumption as inspiration, as you were saying earlier, and you build on other things, but you see in society today that the consumption of content is extreme. I read, I think it was very, I have talked a lot about this book called Psychedelics Explorer's Guide, which sounds like a kind of a B.C. book about how to crush you. But it's not that, it's just trip reports from research projects in the 50's and 60's, before Warren Drugs.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Where he knew... Did you read it or heard about it? Read it. Okay. Henrik Bull, among other things, was a Norwegian architect, was a part of it. And many engineers, architects, physicists, and everything, were involved in lying in a room with sick people and doctors around them.
Starting point is 01:09:27 They took LSD and they were supposed to solve the problems they always had with their business life and personal problems. It's a heavy, full-on pressure at the start and they can't solve a shit. But then, throughout the day, they start working in these conditions and solve these insane things. This is the longest I've read it, so I'll read it again. And what they say, all these experts who are doing this, is that a quarter of the job is to take care of the fucker, but the rest has to be done in the months and years after. Because then you have to put everything you have learned in that situation in place.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And that is a bit like with content and things you are enjoying yourself with, you have to take a step away and in a way die too. So if you have read a book and you have realized that you have to keep on chasing the next content, right into your head, then you don't take time to reflect on what you have learned from the previous one you have taken in. And then you just miss it, I think. So I think that's a kind of forgotten knowledge, a forgotten thing, that we are up to in all the things we are doing. Now we have more to add. I think it was a nice talk, and I look forward to tonight. There is one thing. What did you get for the car?
Starting point is 01:10:54 Yes. I bought the old car. You bought a car? You and Oda came to my house in Opsjørsjærn. Oda was pregnant and you came there and stood there like you were going to give birth in my garage. And Ingrid, my beautiful wife, thinks so bad of you and says that you can get that car here, it's damn cheap. Take this car for 80 000 kroner. Do we get a text message on our phone saying that a guy has bought the car for auction? Will you get a message from him? That you are driving the car for auction?
Starting point is 01:11:32 Was it profitable or not profitable? Okay, you always put on a lot of butter as usual. We talked on the phone about that. He was sending words to Sadu, He was sending words to Sadu. And Sadu, if you get more than you bought, I will give you something. I said after, I actually knew. I actually got 69 000. Okay, that was under.
Starting point is 01:12:00 So it was under. But it was a good deal. So it was a win. But it was a good deal. How long did you have it? How long did you have it? It was a few years. It was a very good car. It's a very good car. Now I'm actually going to... When will you get the new Batmobile?
Starting point is 01:12:21 It arrived just before the month change. Now it's February. What did you buy? Audi Q4. I didn't buy a car. Oh no. Yes. You don't have to. I don't have to.
Starting point is 01:12:32 I'm very happy. Then you have done it. I said, what the hell, it's the last time we talk. No, no, don't send me out. It will be shot. They are going down with a loop on what the hell you have made of that car. So I got that calculation now. But you drive like some damn idiots both of you.
Starting point is 01:12:49 I saw how that car, because I wonder that I got 69,000 people to repair that chassis of that car. And it was damn so... No, it was not... By the way, Magnus, who is supposed to be the king of the bagrate. I remember you had a party with you, and he was supposed to drive the car into the garage. And drive into the whole garage. I was just looking at the mirror. My garage? Or my car?
Starting point is 01:13:14 No, the same. Okay. Thank you for listening to the podcast in 724. I have to give an extra... I want to add one thing. I use this podcast as a nostalgic… I listen to the podcast regularly and I use it as a connection home. I listen to some Norwegian and feel that it's connected to me. He lives in France. So thank you for the job you do. Thank you for that. I still spend a lot of time with you, even though you don't spend as much time with me.
Starting point is 01:13:44 You have to make a podcast yourself. That's nice. So, Jotput the podcast. Then you can hear your voice. But I know that it's the red here, the roll goes, and then I put a out to you who listen to my music. And then we will try to run from 2020-2026. Then it will be a hell of a quantum leap in quality. We will see about that. But people like it.
Starting point is 01:14:14 And there are some who are extra eager, who I get a message from, who say that they have started again. And I recently met two coaches. Yesterday it was, and you probably hear about this too, so I want to give a shout out to you who said you had started anew and you said you were in 2019 too. That's damn nice. And it's a joy to have a podcast,
Starting point is 01:14:40 to have something in my career that hasn't been turned around by money or very clear expectations from someone above me. It's something you can just point at and let something go with an organic growth and development. So that's this. So good luck next year. We'll talk about one of the first weeks in 2025. And until then, Merry Christmas and thank you for joining us, boys. We talked a bit during the first weeks of 2025. Until then, Merry Christmas and thank you for joining us, boys. Merry Christmas! And let us... In Malten's kingdom we are all equal.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Cheers! Bye! Bye bye!

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