Fladseth - #222 - Thomas Leikvoll

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

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Okay, there we are. Thomas Leikevold has taken the trip, and has been dragged up from the Akerbygge. Akerbygge man has become. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, it's a big deal. Yes, but is it going well, Thomas? You, it's going very well. I hate the Norwegian people here, so it's a hindrance. And a good grown man, so you have to start thinking about your health. How old have you become now? I've turned 54.

54? I'm thinking that you are 54. No, but I really appreciate it. I don't think about it either, so that's a bit of a problem here. But you are... because actually everyone I talk to says that when you get older, you get shocked every day. Have I turned 54? Do I think anyone just accepts it as fuck? It's totally deserved that I'm 54. Yes, yes, I have accepted it. But it's the follow-up that comes with it, isn't it? You have to go to the doctor and get the cholesterol-dumps and what other things go on. That's because you have lived the artist's life. Directly!

With you! We are serious! I ate the whole thing! No, that's not the problem. I drink a lot of wine. Damn, I drink a lot of wine. Damn, I drink a lot of wine. You have to balance it a bit, but it's nice to have a little fun. And I'm not a small child, so I can drink wine when I want to.

I'm now on back to back virus infection. Or what we believe is a virus, I have at least two different diseases in my body How do you know there are two? – Because I know it – Okay I know the disease, I had almost two weeks with the disease, and that is when I talked to a doctor friend who said that it wasn't abnormal at all, you are, in fact, there is one period in the year when I am just immune, my immune system is down and everything is fine. That damn dose. That's how it is. And then... And it's this thing with the man flu that I've heard a little about.

I haven't bought it at all. Man flu, what it is, is that we... Men get extra stressed when they get sick? I buy that, of course, because I get that. But the question is how sick... I don't know. How sick am I really? Because that's the condition here. I don't know, I don't buy that man-fly thing either. If it hurts, it hurts. Two men who don't buy man-flies.

Yes, yes. But if it hurts, it hurts. So I think that I have to be allowed to express that. I don't walk around with... If I have broken a leg, I don't walk around and pretend that I can stand on it. That's not it. No, but I think... because evolutionarily, if you think about it, we like to be...

We have to be careful, you notice it in yourself, that it's there. Evolutionary it's like that, you have to take care of your family, and I have to make sure that the two at home don't fight, and you have to get food, and it's a bit in you, but you have should get so anxious and nervous when you get a job, because I don't feel like I will. You don't feel like you will be anxious? Yes, and I feel myself, I could, if it was about life, I could have been out in the field, working, but I get anxious because we, it's the fear that we can't be with the family, that makes us get extra during the last two weeks. But you have a job of 50 000, at some point.

That's what's so damn good. But you had it ready to go there. I have done it before, and I also had to cancel it. Because there was only that thought of being up and jogging, there is no chance. But you have nothing good, anyway. No, no, but it's hard to cancel those jobs. Oh, damn it. Because it's not so easy for these companies, and suddenly they have planned with you, right?

They have to prepare for this new conference, if that's the case. Yes, yes, right. I don't think I have... I can't remember that I canceled a job because of my illness. I should have done it when my father died, so I went on stage two days later and said that I shouldn't have done that, and nobody got anything out of it. You couldn't do it anymore? No, I couldn't. I thought I could do it, because it's just your lyrics. You didn't say that you started crying and stuff? No, it was just that the timing was off, there was no energy, it was completely fucked up. Someone was supposed to stop me, someone was supposed to say that this shouldn't be done.

The guy didn't even do it once. I went up there to Josefines at the festival and juggled there. Because it was a festival too? You weren't celebrating? No, no, no. And I didn't have any money. And then at the festival and all that. There was a festival there too? There was no celebration? No, no, no. And there was no bang. Respect for your father. There was no reason to stand on that stage. If there is a heaven up there,

you just sit down and go and have a 50 000 dollar gift. That's how I would have understood. But that damn festival... All the shit. It was a late night thing and it was completely fucked up. You have a podcast, one podcast now, with your dear lady Inga, called Open Forhold. I am not a dog after six podcasts. Neither as a guest nor to listen. A. It's very difficult to get guests into that podcast. No one wants to talk about what we talk about.

No, and that's fine. I'm not completely out of it. I have to do some research. And then... I'm very fond of talking about sex and ronking and all that. But maybe that's why I think it's difficult to talk about it as a private person. But I think it's so incredibly fun to find fun in it. And you do that too. But then I chose to go out. It was the episode about gangbang and group sex. Because that's a lot. So I heard that. But then I chose to go out, it was the episode about gangbang and group sex and... Because there is a lot. So I heard that. And then I learned a lot about the podcast and you, just based on that, because it was a summary of a season as well. So then it took you a little like... what questions you get and so on.

And there, as I understand, many pigs that send in, and choose to be like, should we have a tricolour? Is that a lot? Yes, I don't get anything, but Inga gets a lot of people who have been on machine and mech, and haven't been so satisfied with the Norwegian language. Not so nice, but they have heard the title of the podcast, which is open for all. Yes, that's what they have heard. And think that this is free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, updates, which I understand are fine, but you know, daily updates are daily updates, so the transition was that it looked like we had chosen our own record. But I didn't think... I thought there would be more.

I thought there would be more. I think... or we think it's fun, and we notice that even though you are like that, I think it's also very nice. People... I understand that people think that it can be too much sex talk and it's totally fine. I think it's nice that people talk about it. I'm just as personal and... I don't know, maybe it has something to do with these transcripts that suddenly come. Yes, it has something to do with it. But we have... We are very satisfied with the sound of the speaker, and we have become a bit of a burden in certain environments. So I think people are adding that we are doing things that we are not doing. Not a burden, that you are guest guests in your own home. There is a society called Spicy Match, which is one of the two biggest gatherings of cross-dressing meetings,

and not just cross-dressing, but people who do all sorts of things, and they have pushed us to their chest. They really want to tell, you know, because when you are in that life stone there, if you are in that life stone there, you want to share it? It's like you are almost religious. I like to talk about my fasting. Yes, yes, yes. I really wanted to talk about it, because it works for you. It's like people now have a white January. Do you really want to talk about it? Of course we want to talk about it. When you have found it, you have just thrown away that cap,

and now you are bathing and wiggling in sex and sucking. Yes, yes, yes. I understand it's not always that easy, but it's like that. Can you talk about it? You have found a life hack. Yes, I think we are very fond of... and we are invited to these meetings and live podcasts from there and so on. And we will probably do that, because we can... That's a huge thing! It's very exciting.

But sometimes we feel that we are being taken to the point of not doing anything ourselves. But at the same time, the whole point of the podcast is that as long as there is sympathy, and it's not illegal to the law, keep going! I completely agree. Keep going! And I have always been a very liberal when it comes to most things. As long as it just gives you joy and doesn't hurt anyone else, do something fucking good. I have a little problem with those... you're going to say normal things, but gangbang is not for me.

I have never been worth it. No, because as I understand it, you haven't done so much of these group stuff. So you went through Gangbang, group sex, triangle and... This is difficult for us to talk about, because we haven't done this. It's not difficult to talk about. So you have googled the directions of one and the other. You taught me something, which we thank you for. Do you want to? No, because I have been fascinated by the concept of glory hole since I was just a little child.

Glory hole? I am also fascinated by glory hole. It is very fascinating. And you say that it is not only men who put the kitchen in a hole. It's a bigger hole where the ladies can lay down and get a better look. Or pure. Or pure, I think. Yes, it's not so common here, but there is a thing called the female glory hole, and there is a platform that you put under your body, like a gynecologist chair. The butt is there, and there are these hips that you have the legs in, and I don't think that's as common as the classic hole in the wall thing. Yes, I can understand the excitement there, for so long, but you have to block out, or do you lighten up a bit that it can also be the worst? I think you are pointing at the unknown.

This is a human being, I will never see him again, I don't even know who he is. And it's just a short way to a solution, that's it. Because you are inside, on the other side you can also see the most creepy, serial killer, The red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, red, I have a lot of experience with this, but... Do you take a look at the kitchen before you start? Or can you do that? Let's see, is it usable, or is it... I don't know, I don't know... I know so little about it! How many holes are there on a global basis? Where... Is it? Yes!

Because I think that it's very... If you go to a little more luxurious sex clubs and all that, then of course you don't have to be surprised to see Goriol. But I have been around the whole world and I have been in the city and seen the holes, not because I don't know what to do, but where are they? And the idea is to do it at an industrial level, that you have a long line of dances, and you take a long, big bar and just drive through it, at the same height as everyone else. This is the work of the ear. Yes, but I have learned that there are... but I think you should know where you are going, and I don't think you can just... there are obviously some up in the North of Norway on those dances. Yes, they do.

But I don't think you can just travel... and obviously, you say, it's not an obvious case. No, but that's what I learned through our podcast, that there are things like that. I think they are mainly used by men, by men for men. We are talking about songswans. Songswans for example, or some black forest, or something above the liars and stuff. But I think you have to have a agreement there. I don't think it just comes out on a random Tuesday and then the leek sticks in there and then something will happen. I don't think that works.

There is a lot of time to beat him, of course. Think how exciting it is. When you first hit. You have to stand in two... It's like a fish... It's like a stick. It's standing on the third hour, hoping something will happen. You are like a fish, you have a very rare fish. And when you first get it, it's incredibly delicious. I'm actually very fascinated by glory hole and the whole concept of it.

But we have been to some clubs and seen it. Me and Inga. Because you can do that, just take your time. Yes, yes, yes, you are not expected to. They are very inclusive. So we have been there with Zed, but I have never seen any female glory holy harke Zed. It's rare to see, it's like a rare Pokemon. I think the club should be big, to say so. Maybe you should go abroad.

And they are always on the handicap zone. There must be some room. It's doable. How much do we need? We need 30 cm. I know that you have to send in a request for some sex parties. I know Steinar Hallert. I talked about him in a podcast before. He and his wife sent in a request...

To a sex fest. Yes, where his wife got yes and he got a break. That's not nice. I think he had a lot of problems, as you often do, and over-thought things a bit. I don't remember exactly what it was, but I think it's like that. It's like that, you have to be verified. We have a commercial website on spicymatch.com, like one for the podcast, but then we had to be verified. We had to sit in front of the PC and someone had to see that we were two, and we had to talk to them a little, and then it was like a good service stamp, and then we were allowed to make a side there.

It's exciting. I should first of all say that you are a comedian and not a sex podcast. A sex guru, no. A sex guru, no. We have known each other for many years. You have been in the game much longer than me, but you have been, since I started, you have been a nice guy. I have been around and said that I have been 15 years, but I think I have said that for 3 years. So it's very close, it's almost 20 years actually. No, but then... No, I have been playing for 15 years.

Yes, right. So I think I had been playing for 3-4 years before you. Oh yes? You hadn't played for so 15 years? Yes, I think I had been on TV for 3-4 years before you. You hadn't been on TV for that long? No, I hadn't. You had done other things? I was on TV, you know. I was a German around with commercial TV. And when it came to the TV, it was very different in the beginning.

Actually, I did it just a little bit, like all the other people I should say, but I can be good at this. And I was a text writer, so I wanted to see if the text was funny live and not just on TV, because on TV you don't get any response. So that was it. I took a little break and had a terrible trip with the legendary Eddie Aidsvog to Hamar, where I was threatened with something like hell by a public that didn't... And then it took two years to rebuild itself a little again after that job, so you had a long break. Yes, that's right. There are many who... Yes, we have never been there. I have never taken a break from it, I just worked through it, but I have a trauma. You have? Yes. Yes, I have a trauma. Now I learned the other day that trauma, in its...

I mean, the term trauma means a near death experience. Oh, I see. But the feeling is almost like that, even if you don't die physically, you are totally exhausted from the family or the flock, and that is the only thing that matters with death. Right. So you can almost call it a death experience. Right, and that's the question we often get from people who don't drive, and who never thought of driving with a stand-up. What would you do if no one laughs? All you damn sadists out there, who love to hear about these stories.

And the last time we met in July in Tromsø, we were at work together. Yes. And the last time we met in July in Tromsø I was at the job fair. I had a terrible job day before, I think. At the party where no one was listening and so on. And it was long time ago. And then I was reminded, oh yes, that's how it was. It was so damn good. I had a really good year. I have done solo shows more than film and event shows, so I have had a year with good experiences, but the worst was towards the end of the year when I was a bit tired and ready for the holidays. So the one in Tromsø was probably one of my worst in 2024. Oh, yes, but you did really well.

Yes, I worked on it and fed on it, but it was so much work and I thought it was so exhausting. It's Christmas table. – Yes, yes, yes. But you grew up in Vatsø? – Yes, that's right. You call it dry? – Yes, that's... I have to say, don't travel to see the beautiful architecture, because the whole country is characterized by the fact that the Germans burned everything 80 years ago. But they are beautiful and beautiful, but of course I knew from the age of 14 that this is not where I will be. This is not what you are driving with.

What kind of people were there? There was one who played the role and took a lot of space, I think. He required a lot of space, I was very much needed. And it becomes even more clear when you live in Watswick, in Oslo. So I think maybe now I was a bit tired of being a bit too much. And now the film can be like, now you take a lot of space, so now you have to calm down a bit. What time are you born? 80.

I was born completely in the 80's. Which 10 years are you talking about? 80, around 80 I was born in the 80's, you know Or 980 980? Yes, right You don't recognize that 10 years? No, it was a nice 10 years Yes, wasn't it?

Yes, yes, yes, I became the celebrity, discovered things, moved out, went to the US and had fun. When you are 54 and you were young at the 80's, can you easily compare the years 10 years? Or was it new because you were in that age, in that 10 years? Do you understand? Oh, that was a good question. Because I see, for me the 80s was very different from the 2000s. It's maybe not that different actually. No, it's not. If you look away from the most superficial things, like music and stuff,

it wasn't that different. We didn't have mobile phones. We went everywhere, remember? Ice cold. It was really cold to walk. We had to walk during practice, we played in bands, we had to walk there, we had to go... Freeze! Freeze all the time! Freeze everywhere! That was the only thing... But you didn't have that in your youth, because you lived where you lived. But then you moved right to Oslo and tried to get yourself a dream to be entertained? No, I moved to Kristiansand first.

No, I moved to the US first. I lived there for a year or something. Then I moved to Kristiansand. And that was like... you know what? It was totally like that. Now I have lived far north. I freeze a lot. You moved far south.

Just to see if that is better, and it was a bit better. It didn't go well, you had some real reindeer herders and... No, because you were young, you wanted to walk in the same pants you had seen on TV, so you didn't have style. So damn pathetic! Yes, completely pathetic! And then I moved to London, I started TV3 in London, and then it became Oslo. So you started TV3 in London? Yes, as a weatherman.

Yes, that's right. You started as a weatherman. Yes. You became a favorite there. What was it like to be there? Yes, and no one had done that. In Norwegian TV it was... You were supposed to be strict. You took life and health. I didn't care that had done that. On Norwegian TV it was supposed to be strict. I don't care much about life and health. So we had 40 seconds of weather reports, 41 minutes of weather reports. I have seen a clip of that. I think you have posted it.

I think I posted it. It went fast. It was a bit cold in the north and a bit warmer in the south. Thank you very much for that. Yes, every time. Yes, right? And then you moved to Oslo and continued a bit there? Then I started in the TV industry, and then I was in the TV production business, and I wrote a bit, and then I was on TV a bit, and a bit as a host, and then I was like that. I never had ambitions. No.

Like TV-wise, you didn't want to be a producer, you didn't want to be... I didn't want to be anything, I just wanted to show. To make you happy? Yes, just to have fun. And that caught me at a certain point, and suddenly there was no place for... TV industry, you know that.

It's a young man's game. It's pretty brutal. Yes, when you pass... When you're close to 40, you can start to see that it's something he's doing. Yes, if you're very lucky, you can keep going in some way, but I think the entire TV industry is at least now lot more... there is a lot more day-flies now than before. Yes, yes, yes. And I have talked about this before too, these bubbles, the reality star bubbles, that just pop up and disappear again. I try to keep up with it, because I don't want to be him. You know, like you and I grew up with these guys,

who say like... People on my show say like, I don't understand anything anymore. I don't want to be him, so I try to keep up. But I have to remember that I lose control, I lose... I can't take it anymore. My wife is very... Inga is very good at keeping up. I have to ask her who it is. She has been in X on the Beach, which I have never seen.

And then she suddenly came to the farm and said that I am 71 degrees north, and I thought, damn! But there really shouldn't be anything negative that you don't know about all this. But it's incredibly cool to made on a chair on the corner. Yes, and I don't do that. I just realize that... I feel that I got the gold all over the TV. When I worked in TV, it was the only place where people could announce and reach out to people, and there was enough money, and we were stars, and all doors were open. Now it's not like that anymore. A huge exposure, right? Everyone saw the same thing. It was crazy how... I remember thinking about it when I started, like, ok, now all that I have grown up with, that doesn't matter anymore. Because then YouTube and that thing was already going on, right?

And then it was... I remember thinking about it. Now I have always learned and thought that I should do it. It doesn't matter anymore. When you were on TV, you were a celebrity by definition. And it wasn't Big Brother, maybe the first reality show or something like that, or if it was Robinson, you don't remember. Big Brother. Yes, right. Then it took off. Then it started to take off.

And before that, if you were on TV, everyone had seen it. Yes. Everyone had seen it. And I remember the first time I was in Fyrstjerners Middag, I think it was the second season. The first season went well and then it took off. So the second season was completely hysterical. Everyone was going to watch Fyrstjerners Middag. There was a second single.

It was like Middag. There was a solo. There were so many ladies. I didn't know how to say no, so I chose to be with four episodes. And this is Fyrstejnarsen Middag, it's not that long ago. But it's been a while. It's been a while, but now I have not been there for a long time. But with the exposure that you became so starry that you don't experience today, with any exception, you have been a part of this show as well. Have you been a part into it? No, I don't think so, because it went so slowly with me actually. I think I could have lost a bit of myself, just when I was in the beginning of TV3. I was often called the talent of the year.

So I was a bit high and dark inside me at least, but I've always been a polite guy. So everyone who doesn't know who I am, should come here and show. I've always been a polite guy, but I think my self-image is probably a bit blown up. It's difficult to get away from that. Yes, and I think, if you're very very young, the football brain is not true, how do you avoid it? What do you earn in a week? There are so many millions and everyone wants a piece of you, and you become too clever, and then you have to be able to keep your feet on the ground, it doesn't work. You get hurt in some way. There are many meatheads who just throw away their whole career on a trip to Thuis.

But I get young to understand that perspective. The perspective you get when you just get a little older. I remember I started with stand-up in the beginning, when I was 23 and before that I was going to the theatre in school. And then I got far in the third year of the audition, and then two years in a row, and then you have a longer conversation with the jury, when you have to talk about who you are and they will try to get an impression of how you think and what you want in life. And then I remember that I never felt smarter than then. I remember I said to them, had I been here two years ago, I would not have known who I was or how the world was connected. I am now, but now it is different. I managed to say that. I remember the second most I said in my life, they must have thought, what are you talking about? And after every year I got older, I thought, how did you manage to say that? And it was about the dumber you are, the smarter you think you are, because you can't see the bigger picture. You can't... And that...

But have you ever been... And of course it's about those who beat through as 20-year-olds and earn as much money as they do in international football. They can't see why a junior player they have set up to have success over such a long time, how it all comes together, because they don't have the experience to see it. So then it goes back and forth, and is selfish and is devils, and can't reach their potential. No, no, no, and to waste money and contacts on the road. But I was going to ask, have you ever been ambitious in the form of a stand-up comedian, like, now I'm going to fucking succeed, now I'm going to stand on the top of the pyramid,

and stand fucking high up. Yes, I have never thought that I have been very ambitious, but I have probably been very self-confident in that I would rather be grateful for myself when I have noticed that things are not going the way I thought they would. That I am like, wow, now I can go both ways here. Because I have been very confident that I am not particularly good at anything really, but just that with humour I have that in mind. So I just thought that it should go. And maybe had a little over-reaction on that. And then it has also been a false security, that you have to work.

So I have had a kick in the ass when I have been working. Yes, because you quickly become lazy. Yes, so I have taken it and then they have arranged it. But I don't know, I am lazy. I have chosen this a bit because I like the opposite of the way, and thought that this works... to live a bit of a day-to-day life, it also serves me well, because I have a calm and safe after that. I don't know, I have thought a lot like that. Yes, but that is what I do, and I have been doing this for so long that I can never go back to a normal job.

I can't start at 8 o'clock in the morning and finish at 4 o'clock. I think I would have died. But I think I could have done that. I have become more and more fond of administrative work and logistics and things just flow, so I often procrastinate creative work to keep the business going and just keep things in order. So I think if I liked that job, I would have said that I could have been a team leader. Without any skills. The only condition is that I like to keep things in order. Do you like schemes and powerpoints? Not powerpoints, but what are they called? Excel and such? I can't be good at that, but I can like the thought that I am good at it. Do you understand? But I just like… You like the thought that you can become good at it if you have good input? Yes, it sounds so thin like that. I like the thought that I am the one who controls this team.

Where are the tongs? Where are the knife tongs? I will tell you. That's the way it is. I have also liked the idea that I should have a table and a tablecloth everywhere. I have a very small tablecloth, but I like the idea that I have everything I need, and I know exactly where the different things are. And it's very tidy, and I have a mirror on the wall where I hang my scissors, and I save different scissors, and I have speakers on the wall, and there's a saw hanging, and I have two different saws, and then you have that... I remember that, I remember that my brother had a snack table, my stepfather is not my cousin, but my stepfather had one, and I think you remember that they drew a silhouette around the saw, because they had several saws, you know, so you had to know which saw was going to hang there, and then you have to draw the outline of it.

I always thought that was fascinating, and it was fitting that it was there. I remember that Fathar had the worst luck. And it's just like coming out of years. I think I never cared about that when I was younger. I don't know why I am so... And I am not a practitioner either. But I think the system and the order is a bit fun. It gives me peace. Yes, but it hit me so hard during the Corona. It is very strange that you have passed 50 and have not thought about it. But when Corona hit, and everything about work just stopped.

You stopped calling people to ask if there would be any job. You knew there was no other job. There were so many hundreds of thousands that just disappeared. Then they hit me, I can't do anything about it. I can't do a shit. We had colleagues who had a mental illness, and they took jobs, and some had a pre-trial certificate and took jobs and stuff. I can't do anything! Not a shit! And what you could have done was not a job. I can do a servitor.

Yes, you can do that. And I often think that I would like to go back to that. You have served me once. Have I served you? Yes. Is it the self-service or not so far away from here? Self-service, yes. Yes, absolutely, when I work.

I actually remember that, because then you were in the young and struggling... The comedian. The comedian, and then I remember that you came over and served us some beer there, and I thought, oh yes, yes, that's it. It goes on, that, that's possible. And have something to do with the side of it. And most of us have another job before we start. I had a lot of jobs when I started with stand-up, and I remember very well. I worked on Axe, SFO, Lærvikar. I actually remember very well when I worked at the AXE at the Becklagg school.

I remember very well and I had dreamed of digging a crack at the park. I remember that Martin Beyer called me and asked me if I wanted to be there. I remember where I was. I'm not so good at remembering old things, but I remember that very well. And from there I worked at several restaurants and servitors and a lot of things on the side. I had TV when I started, and it was a great combination to be a comedian. And I had a public heating, and it was a really good extra income. I think we got 4,500-5,000 kroner each time we met. Fluff the audience and went again, but the lights were off. I had four of those a week, so you can imagine that it was a damn good month's salary.

Apart from the fact that you burn yourself, you die internally. Because you should be so damn happy. You should be so super happy, and you say the same thing every time. For those of you who don't know, it's before a talk show or a live TV show. A game show, you can call it that. Yes, a TV show with an audience. There is always a warm-up that gets the audience going. And then the warm-up is on the side. If you look closely, you can see in the total pictures that the warm-up is pulling at the same time as applause.

And I work on some of those things, and I always get a strange feeling about myself, that you should get them to clap so damn hard. Because it's so against what you usually do in stand-up. You should deliver and they should clap, if it's good. But it feels so wrong to just demand that they clap all the time. The dynamics in this is quite funny, because when people enter a TV studio, or a studio in general, then you get an impression that this has to be quiet. Because here things are going on, there is an uptake here. The warm-up is there to counteract that feeling among people. But of course it's very strange. I've done a thousand seasons of Senkveld.

And it's very strange, because you have to sit and follow along and say... Henrik Flatset on the couch says something half-fun. And then we go! It was very funny. And then you say, even the like, what the hell, he was so damn good. But it was my job. It feels very strange to sit in a talkshow-sofa. At least when I was younger. I was quite young when I was in Senkveld the first time. Thomas and Aral had seen me at award, and thought it was fun, and I came into the couch to promote a small show I had.

The first solar show, Charulant. And then it felt like I was coming in too fast in something that was much bigger than me. And I was sitting there, feeling pretty insecure about what the hell you are doing there. And then you say something and then you get that clapping and the response. And it's like a movie scene where you see the world through the eyes of the main character and everyone is like... We beat them up... laughing, laughing... Everything is wrong. Yes, everything is very strange.

It's like you're getting used to the years. It's not satisfied. It's the same with this, like everyday life. And you have to relax. And if you watch TV shows, you understand that the mood that we are making on false grounds, is important for you to perceive the wrong team, it is important that you understand the show as you see it. That is a very important task. But I get into it because I thought, if I just have fun with the audience and some charming toys,

then someone in the production will come and find out that this guy has a talent, he needs to use it for something else. You like to come into the studio. We have a lot of fun today, so we have to use him for something else. You like comedy? Yes, comedy. Yes, very funny today, we have a bigger show. You couldn't imagine leading that. But that happened of course, and in the end it was just a ruckus that he came into the studio and left. It's always fun with... it's a classic movie scene, that one has stood at some kind of comedy club, an old, old comedy club,

was washing the floors behind, and one of the artists is sick, but what do we do, what do we do? The producer is completely... rips his hair, and he stands there with the washing machine behind him and says, I know everything, I know all the lyrics. And then it becomes the stars. Yes, yes, yes. That's how I hoped it would be. It's rare. Just like that. I can't remember. I don't know if anyone has ever entered the industry like that.

It's more like you say that you do a good job... I think... Maybe I have to get back to it now, but I think Stian Blipp was discovered because he led a Petre show, and a big TV producer was there and saw him and thought, there is talent. He had a very comical career on the stand-up show with his stuff. A very charismatic, funny guy with beatboxing, which he integrated into his stand-up show. And from there it went very fast. I remember that year. I remember we were standing... Then it was Peter Gullil and then it was straight over to Idol. Yes, and we were standing... He arranged a club in Drønnheim at that time, before he had started with Idol. And I remember that we sat backstage... I was the star that night, headliner, and Stian led everything. So I remember he said that he had got a contract with TV2 to lead in the dole. Then the black man got a role.

Then I thought, okay, here I have worked as a pig in this industry for 12 years, and you just go in from the left and take one of the most fat jobs you can have in this industry. But that's how... you know what, I understand... I think you notice, I notice a little bit of that, that there are people who just go straight into the pudding, the most delicious pudding. But I don't know, I've never been there. I may have found a peace in that... I have been interested in hearing about other careers and lives, not only in the entertainment industry, but other professions as well. And I have understood through that, that it is not always that immediate, be in the idol program or not. No, I can admit that I was very open.

Sarah Natasha Melby once told me, we went on a contract and said, I remember Thomas, it's better to jump than to be puffed. I waited for the puff, I just took the puff. So when I got out and was no longer on TV, it was a big part of my identity. Because it was so much, a big part of my identity, and that was working on TV. But I worked very hard not to be bitter, because I think bitterness is so fucking unsexy. But it was painful. But then I thought, no.

And then I went back and did a little gold mine two years ago, and worked with a text writer, and then I realized that here time has stopped. They have less money, they do exactly the same. What is the joy after all these years you have been gone? Nothing. I have it so much more than I think it's going to be fun. I always go on stage, mostly everything, I should say. 99% of the time I go on stage, they look forward to it. I have a lot of fun when I'm on stage first. A lot of fun as I think it's crap,

but just going on stage, I think it. A lot of things around that I think are shit, but just going on stage is really fun. You have to get things a bit away from you sometimes. I had the same thing with the high school theatre and the theatre dream. Because when you are inside that thing, it's one thing that matters. There is so much power in that school theatre. It's one thing that matters. I had the same ambition, we lived together with my previous wife, and she was going to move to Oslo to study, and I was in the theatre school. Because I had played a lot of semi-professional scenes, and I had a lot of. And she moved to Oslo to study and I was a theatre student. Because I had played a lot of semi-professional pieces.

But then commercial TV came and took me to Racko and today I'm really happy for it. Because I thought I was a really good actor. I always thought I was the best at what I started with, but I didn't. After that I have had a lot of respect for those who have gone that way, because you really have to burn for the theater, and it's an art to convey things on stage. But I think you have a lot of dreams of just doing something creative, to show off in some way. Maybe many dream of just taking a small detour to get on TV, or do something that looks like it. And I was very disturbed by that, so I understand well today that I may not get there.

And when you talk to real actors, actors who are really good actors with big S, Frank Jouzos I have met once, who is a fantastic actor. And when you hear him talk about his skill, about being an actor, there is so much more that is outside of my poor skills when you are in a role, and how the mindset and... there is so much skill in it, that I get so impressed by, that I have never thought of at once. I have never been such a skilled person myself, I get sometimes when I hear other comedians, I have been especially, maybe more used to it too, that there is a very such relationship to every time you deliver and the text in what you deliver. Then it's very serious to write a stand-up-beat as close as a great writer.

So I thought like this, what the hell am I doing? That's the point. Because that relationship is much more just that it comes, that it's a juggling. So you may have understood that it's just a school. Sometimes I think that Stendham can be too technical, there are some who have too much in their textbooks and terminology about Stendham, so I think you miss a little juggling in it, if it should be... Of course you have to deliver it, but our profession is about people believing that we are there to find things there and then. And you have to present it as it is. But it can be too technical, and you have to have a callback, and then you have to have a son, and then you have to have a son, and so on. And I thought, fuck that, I will not just live. But at the same time… No, no, no. Shall we take a little break?

Yes! We will go into the scenario. Okay. Have you stopped killing? We will see. Yes, I think I am. Good. We will go into more... Okay. We will take one called Baskedakke at the nearest store.

Okay. What is your nearest store? It is Koopen at Akerbygge. That's the right place to leave it. Yes, beside the Narvessene. The big one? It has a bit to go on. A bit of a story.

You are at your nearest shop, the Coop. You are placed in the corner, and here is a complex structure, not many floors, but several corners. In the opposite corner, in the opposite part of the shop, your opponent will be beaten to death. All goods in the cellars are available in this kind of business, but nothing is regenerated, so you can't use it several times. What is your strategy? Which region do you aim for? And which national do you build up in this fight. We just started. If you suddenly just come into this scenario, you choose to go for it. I don't want you to go for the frozen dish. That's one way to go. I've had it before.

Yes. I'm sitting on the edge of the table. I'm thinking that the hardest thing in the shop is the frozen? It's probably the hardest, yes. The deep frost food is very hard. Yes, so I would have gone for that first. And then there is in most stores, there is a small shelf where they sell egg parts and whiskey. Yes, and that's how it starts. And knife. Yes, not hard.

Especially in the bigger stores. Yes, that's in my store. Where is this in relation to the Nothing has gone there. – That's very bad. It's very bad, but it's very short in the frozen food. It's probably the worst. It's worse than bread and such, because there is... No, it's probably not a knife, it's bread, you know. No, because... I have to admit, I think the knife part is probably closer to my opponent's corner, if it's like right above each other. So he... – Or you might think that it's...

That he's going for it? A lost battle over there. You have to think in chess here, after all. And other things that I have... I am also pretty close to... ...brus and beer and glass bottles. Good, now you think well. Yes, I think so. So there...

But still a decent double deck with two broken bottles. Not true, not true. And then it won't help with a break, I think. No, and if you break more, I will put some instructions there, but if you break more, you can have an arsenal that is the freeze, just to get the first strokes, and just keep going straight forward, or a little bit to the right, and get into the glass-brushing department. Because you think you will meet the VD-companion several times, and then you pull back, and then meet again. Again, yes, right. There is no other thing that has been planned? No, but I think so. I work with...

That you have to solve the problem a few times and then pull back. Pull back, build up a little arsenal again. Because when we are close to the middle of the store, it's damn little to pick up weaponically. Then it's bag soup and taco shell. You don't get anything done with that. No, you can have a couple of salsa boxes, glass bottles and something like that. Yes, you have some heavy stuff like olive oil and hermetic. Of course, with a bit of strength and skill you can kill a person with a real bullseye. Yes, a hermetic box with soda can cause damage if you hit it right.

Absolutely. And it also passes on the way to the glass, and the helmet department is on the right corner. So it's possible to pick up something there. Now you've been working down in the department. You go for the frost disc, because the knife might be busy. I think that you are saying that my opponent is closer to the knife, so I will have to reach out to you. But you are saying that we can't stay here forever, so we have to say that you have to build up a national or choose a weapon, and then you have go to the fight, and then it will be decided. Yes, and then I feel now when we talk about the glass bottle, right? One in each hand, put two in the back of your hand so you have something extra, and maybe in the pocket,

then I think that then it is not worth the knife. No, I think it's good. And then you meet the upcoming… I meet the upcoming one about in about before the fresh air disc. Then you go for casting or...? Then I go first for a strike. Yes, first strike. First strike, yes. Yes, most of the time it's strike.

I go close to the body so he doesn't use his weapon. And then strike. I see that you... Behind here in the new department department you are going to... If you are going for a hug, the knife is not that stupid either. No, but you have always suggested that he has the knife, and that's why I would rather... The bottle is a bit shorter, so he won't get so much done with the knife if it is close enough. Yes, okay, I hear you and I think this is a 50-50 situation. I have heard other guests earlier,

who have thought that this is good. This knife can do as much damage as possible, I think. I think he can also evaluate several knives. And then it's easy. One knife, a pretty good precision on that one. Put one straight in your chest and you go on, Ager. And the scissors are hanging like... You talk here, Thomas, as if the glass bottle is worth more than the knife, and I'm not 100% sure about that. No, but you have presented a scenario as if I don't have so many choices. No, no, no. You've pressed me to do it. There's no doubt about that. So I wish you a lot of luck, and I hope we get the best out of it. We'll throw it in, and I think it will be fun. We will also start to round it out here.

I will come back to the... I've dug down a lot of parasets, and I see... I actually have a pretty good shape. I think you seem to be in a much better shape than you have verbally told me. Yes, but I live a bit on loan time, too, if I remember correctly. One from another here. We have two scriptwriters in the podcast, who are in the business, who deliver at a high level. No, they come with some scripts from time to time. Yes, but are they listeners? Adrian Høeg and Lasse Brunval.

Oh, okay. Two liters. Kudos to them. Yes, I agree. This is from Brunval. The previous one was from Høg. You are introduced to a massive, but well-lit hangar. The hangar is completely empty, apart from the fact that there are 999 randomly selected Norwegians on the list. A vote on the high-point is a bit like the scenario, of course, but not quite like.

A vote on the high-point says, choose one sport, skill or branch you can compete in. Competition must take place within the hangar, but we can get everything we need for the performance. Only the winner survives, the rest will be eliminated with a neck shot. Which competition do you choose to get the victory out as the final winner? In the final, there is a kind of statistical element. What do you think you could beat 999 others in? And here it is just starting to... Here you can throw out time for one thing.

Can we start by excluding some things? Yes, of course. Football or ball sport in general. So not on the trick scene? No. You sit here with Liverpool caps, but you are a sofa-experiment. I am a sofa-experiment, so no. No ball sport.

All sports include precision. I think we can... No shooting on the target or... No, no. No, I think I get my patience out of it. I don't let go of the target too early. Oh, yes. I just say what it should be written on.

You blame the arrow. Yes. And I don't have the best view of the world, so to aim at it is a problem. Yes. No, you know what? I think the first thing they hit me with when they asked me, I think you were good at… not boxing, but what do you call it, without gloves? Street fighting? Yes, just MMA?

Yes, it's completely flat. It's pretty big and heavy. Can you take one person at a time? But you have to say that 50% of them are girls. Yes, that's a reasonable number. You can get a real break-up there. You can do that, and you have to imagine that of the 50 boys there... 50 boys?

50% are boys. 50% of them are boys. So we see that 30% of them are less and weaker than me. So I have to be 20% again, and they have a good chance to beat me. Are you good at fighting? I agree with that. You are quite... When it's black, I'm damn good. Yes, because you can do this. Yes, you can say that, obviously, of course.

So I'm pretty good at fighting. A lot of tricks. Can we do tricks like that? So yes, I don't think I have any chance anyway, but if I give myself the best case scenario, that's where I have to do it. I'm very happy. I'm very happy. I could have... I could have been in the middle of the weather. But you can't compete in that. Isn't that so? Yes, then you have to... Okay, if you were to sign up and hit... It's very fun to do, and I say fjollet like that, when it's about life to do.

In a squid game-like hangar. So it stands there and surfs for doves and... You had to be very specific, right? In the 16th century there was a rain shower over Frågner, right? And then you have to make a mistake in front of the audience, right? And you have to hit it. So when they say that we can get to the road everything you need, then it is also some apparatus to see how it is. Yes, the map or... But you have weather reports, you may not have a meteorologist...

No, we got it printed out, like they did that time, from one place to another. It could happen that the light-weightedness that you were so loved for back then, that I could work against you. Extremely! You could still be Gislefoss, or one of those state-metrologers, who won in 999. Yes, and then you're done. Then I'm done. I don't have a clue about red and orange I'm so close to the nose, I don't care if you get a But you had a lot of bangs on the high-pitched amp.

Yes, I would have done that. I think I have to give myself MMR. So you set up driving bare the bar in full game mode, and then you're just going to open 999 ASUS? Yes. It wasn't said how long this would take, because you have to get some rest in between. Yes, because that's... You're starting to get tired after 20, like... I'm counting on that, That you get some rest. There is a lot of work to do around 9.

I remember we broke up once when I was on a trip with boys. I was a very young man, 17 years old. There was one who clicked right in the corner. A Finnish guy or something. Not the one you knew? No, a random guy. He insisted that he… And there were many who were against him. And he lied to everyone and said, down to the beach, because I will beat one against one until everyone is done.

Until everyone is completely beaten on the beach. I remember that. So we went down there, and it was just, what the hell is going on? Then he jumped into the hotel. Oh! I wonder, I think it's smart. What a downfall. It would have been insane, absolutely violent. And I think it's weird, he can't decide that it's one against one. Yes, but if you first take so many against you, then it's a bit heroic thing to do, and actually quite a bit of a skill. That he says, okay, it's you against me, the only thing I demand is that we do it on the beach,

and that I get the opportunity to fight one against one, against all of you. I can fight against all of you, but not all at the same time when I'm done. So he was very calm, in the future, of course, he was in the hotel, but I can just... I admire that grip there too. I think it's funny that you pick up a fight on the street in Ajanapa and think that we must have rules here. Yes, I think so. If you have fucked it up so much,

you get everyone in line. It's many, many years ago, of course. But that's how I remember it. Towards the end, is there anything we can cover? There is, of course, but... We had quite a lot. I was going to tell you before we started. Because I think that I'm lucky because I...

I turned 54 the first time I got married to food. And now I'm in Tenerife. And that's the sounds you make when your stomach is empty and you think that you will just get a stomachache. It's crazy. It was so damn bad. And then I can say that I had a man flu. Then I felt so damn bad for myself. It was terrible. It was terrible and I had avers and it was completely fucked up. But don't you agree that when you are so on the rim, when you are about to throw up your inner thighs, that you are never so proud of your body and how hard your body works,

because here absolutely everything is going to, or you will go up. It's war and hook, you are going up. And this was two days before we were going to going home, and the night before the departure day, I was lying there with 40 fever, and Inga, my wife, said that we should go to the doctor and I thought, not the fuck if I'm going to the doctor in Spain, because then I won't be able to catch the flight. And then I thought that the fever, that's the body, that works that works like hell to get rid of it. And then I woke up in the morning, fever gone, I wasn't in top shape, I wasn't, but I managed to get in a car and drive to the airport and get through it without... And then I thought, damn, the body is fine. The body is fantastic. I have to organize it yourself. I was on my way to... this is a story I have to repeat. I was on my way to Croatia,

I was there with two friends a couple of years ago, and then I smoked, I thought I would be healthy, I got some antibiotics and stuff, and then it turned out that it was some virus, so it was all bullshit. I got sicker and sicker. When I got to Var, I was on and stuff, and then I showed that it was some virus, so I didn't give a shit. I got sicker and sicker. When I got to Var, I was on the rim, I was sitting on a color, I was completely destroyed. And the only thing I could do, I went from the bus terminal, and went to a roundabout with some bus drivers, and I just sat there. I was lying there for hours. And then I understood, when you don't have anyone else, when you are completely on the rim, you sleep anywhere. It was so nice to just lie there. I was lying there. I didn't lie completely in there and hide. You just lay there? And no one disturbed you? I just told the guys that they just have to find a place to live and then we just have to go to the mountains.

The whole trip I was completely exhausted. So you were thrown out? Yes, really. When the days after the band got better, you had a sore stomach. And we have to be honest, it comes out all the way when you stand on it. And I thought, because I have never experienced it before, I thought the first pump that comes all alone, without a follower, I couldn't be more proud than if I had given birth to my own child.

It was a victory. I felt a sense of mastery. And back. I'm back. We're back. And you know that you're all good now. No, but it's good. I have a lot of work to do the next day. So I'm going to get on the horse. I'm going to have a show in English for the first time this weekend.

Really? Yes, I'm looking forward to it. I understand that. Not that much to say, but there are some jokes in there, and translating jokes into English is not fun. I wish you good luck with that. Thank you, thank you. Nice to talk to you. Thank you.

And thank you to you at home. And to Grønvål and... To Høg and Brunevål. Høg and Brunevål, yes. So it's... I have a little round with Laavkultur and the tickets are starting to disappear.

And you find the rest of the tickets on... no, it's the one on Enrik Flatsudt and now it's starting to get tired of saying it. That's how it is. Okay, we'll talk. We'll talk. Bye.

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