Fladseth - #226 - Rossman

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

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And here we are, right and left in the studio, we have Rossmann. What the hell is your name? My name is Aslak Rossehaug. Aslak Rossehaug? Per Aslak Eil Rossehaug. Per Aslak, yes. You don't like the name Per. You said that before. It's a party trick. A party trick. It's like a whips-off. I have heard... You are... Let's go through a bit. Music from the Haugesund area.

Yes, Karmey. Karmey even. Yes. Makes beautiful music. I have the pleasure to hear your new album. Yes. Which is coming maybe in the spring. Yes, it will come February 28th already. Yes, it will.

The next day in the month. Oh damn, and that is... If you don't put on a headset or turn on a device and listen to that record this summer, then I mean you are an idiot. Because I was so pissed off. I had a good time with it. Yes, it was really nice. There are so many different mixes, genres and you as a vocalist, I have to say.

Because you have an incredible energy in the way you convey things. You get so drawn into it. You play so much in it. You are into country genres, old rock sometimes. What is it called? Bluegrass, is that right? Yes, bluegrass is very Banyan music. But it is. Yes, absolutely. It's great to say. Sharing with the genre stuff has always been difficult for me. Because I have been both a rock vocalist and a singer.

And then I became Kønntry Frelst. So I sat with a friend yesterday and he said that he was struggling to pitch me in to his friends when they ask me what I'm doing in Rosmark. So it's maybe the short pitch now that I show the singer a piece of rock band. In a way it's a simple short thing. For me you sound like a damn good combo. Yes, that was good. I have been, what I talked about before that I don't have any music identity anymore. I think I've never had it. I'm fond of music, but I've never been a music nerd.

So when you get older, you have to find out who you are. You don't have to be so lazy anymore to show your extensiveness. Some things you're not good at, some things you are a bit blank on. And... When you are younger, you have a complex for if it is thick or red-haired. You are red-haired as hell, right? You have these things and go,

oh no, no, I am different. But I don't care. I am honest. I have no identity. No. I am not Drillo. Drillo hates music. What are you doing? Have you heard? I can't listen to music, but if you hate music, it's probably wrong. Yes, absolutely. I like it, but also old rock. I think it's there. I have enough identity. I'm a 19 year old rocker, you know.

I'm that. I'm just going to recommend it. But I think you should. Do you have any good concert experiences? That you had fun with the rock band? I'm a bit weak for raga rockers and stuff. It was actually me and Emil Gukill, the NRK man, who were with a stand-up during a period. We went up to a military camp in a place in Norway. I don't remember where it was. But then we actually warmed up for Raga Rockers. On an October-fest-like thing for officers up on the military base. And it was a real hell, right?

People were totally fucked up, and stand-up didn't work. So Gukil ended up pushing me and telling old stories from Armin and stuff. I haven't been in the military, and I... But I got officers up and stuff, and they took a fight fight. That was the only thing that worked. It was like macho. Macho and they followed up. But then Raga Rockers went on and there was a really good atmosphere. It was a special experience.

We were at the top of the base, not with Mikael Kron, but all the other bands. A whole bunch of them. One of them is Lapp over Øyj and stuff. That's the dream. Isn't that the dream? Lapp over Øyj or Guldtan. Do you have any bands with something like that? No, not really, but I have a dream. I always dream about him in Lønneskånge.

Like, angry over Øyj and stuff. Completely crazy. I've always wanted that. That's crazy. That's really cool. I have always wanted to see him angry and completely lost. That's crazy. It's really cool. Isn't there one in the band that isn't so nice that you can sacrifice? A drummer who could get a scar?

I guess so. He lives hard for rock, so I can tell you that. In worst case you can just fake it with a little lens on your eye. But that would be a bit more embarrassing than that, because you're supposed to be real. I know, I know. Did you know that? This is something I've learned. Now I'm talking a lot. But now I have to get it out of my head, because I haven't talked to you. Is that okay, Rotten? Yes, it's totally fine with me.

If you want to hear what I'm talking about, Per Arslag will talk. But now I was told... PARTY! But I learned who it was who said it. I don't have the sign, and that's what I'm so sorry about. In today's climate, when it's hard to know what's true and what's not, I should have had good signs. But I've just heard that the na-sign, and I read and see a lot about the Nazis, believe me, but I haven't seen this in my documentary yet, that the Nazis cut up their throats and so on, they made it, they faked it, they made it like a young skater, I remember I pulled a skateboard over Jærestolper, to get the railing.

That's right, we were doing the same. Yes, we did. That's how the Nazis cut themselves up to have fat ass. Battle scars. Battle scars. Yes. So the Nazis were in many ways some of the Nazi tops tops and these SA members and so on and the SS soldiers, the paramilitaries

were the ones who didn't have that many friends, I think. I have a feeling. It could be that they tried to... It was probably many times in their life that they got out in a bit of a failed form, maybe? Yes, I have the impression. I have... No, I... I think it's...

It's a stereotype I have in my life. I'm very fond of the other way around. I haven't finished with that day. No, but it's a good thing to have. Because there's so much to take in. And now you're approaching 40 or... Yes, I am on the verge of that half of the 30s. You have 40 years, 50 years, 60 years. You can dive deeper and deeper into that.

Yes, but I don't think I should use 40 or 50 years, so I think I will be finished with the World Cup in 30 years. Yes, you think so? Yes. And then... My father said it now. I started talking about a book called, is it really Blitzt? He has tripped and blitzt. It's a writer, Ohler, I think his name is. It's about drugs in Nazi Germany. Because it wasn't just the military that took amphetamine, preparations and opiates. It was very widespread in Germany in the 20s and 30s. There was a lot of people who were doping. I love that bullshit. And it's all about the society and doping, and the military and the blitzkrieg.

How they took these insane amphetamine pills, pervitin and ran through the Mardin forest. The French people didn't know what was happening. They didn't understand that they could move so fast. They stood on the planks with clapping hands and willing eyes to run through the sleeping and several dead. My dad said that he was like, I don't give a shit about Hitler. So damn sad. Because it's clear that you've been fed up with it. He's done. He's done. He's old and rotten now.

He was done for several decades. But where was I? You started with a concert experience that was great. Then we'll go back to you. You've come straight from... what holiday? Yes. Did you land today? I landed in Fjorgårds.

It's two weeks... or 16 days in Sri Lanka. Oh my. How is that? I've never been there before, but when I landed and took the taxi to the overnight stay, I decided that this was my favorite country. It's fruity, the local food is good, it's not really good, but it's pretty good. But it was a surf place, so there was a lot of fresh food, they're really good at Mexican food, because they have good And that was in connection with the Bali tour, which Berrum was the main driver for. So he got a little visit from some people there. But that was the I was supposed to be in Bali, but when I got home I found out that I was in Jarlpike. And I had a lot of fun with that. And you made a song based on that, which was called Hellraa. And I and many people who listen to this podcast and Bermude Wey got their eyes open for you.

Since then you have done your thing and been on tour and so on, but also been involved and had been in summer special episodes there at Bermudez and Fulcjørdal. But I was actually going to say that Bali is a bit like Sri Lanka. Yes, I guess it's a bit the same thing. It's a place that works from there. What's nice about it is that I haven't been to Bali, but at least where we were in Sri Lanka, which is called Kadabedagama Gurubebila. What was it? Kadabedagama Gurubebila. Yes, what was it?

It was the small town we were in. Oh yes. And it's called Veligama, it's the southern coast, there are the beaches. They didn't come that far, there weren't that many people, it was very peaceful. And they had the opportunity to surf, play and spend the night. But I saw that Bali was more known, so there were more people. Yes, it was relatively crowded. What was interesting about Bali and the part of Bali we were on,

was that what I see from the traditional, and with danger of pulling the strings here, it was like a shadow, a very dark shadow, and like an old building, and a very dark house, and then there was a modern facade with a kitchen from somewhere in the world that was so fresh. So it was like that. It sounds a bit like that. It was like the duality of people coming from outside and building a cool, cool build a cool Instagram restaurant. And a lot of people, there are a lot of people working there, who are from LA, who have online coaches and shit about them,

who live there, and they should have their own pokeball bowl, and their own sushi should have everything. Yes, yes. The hat. It was very annoying because there was a lot of that in Sri Lanka. And there were even some places where they didn't have beer. No. And you could come...

There were even rooftops. And there were some backpackers. You walked up the stairs, it was a bit hippie-like. And everything smelled right, like here we should take a glass. But they didn't have beer. Damn! What did they have? It was very special.

No, kombucha and... Yeah, a little squeak. Yeah, squeak. It's not bad with a little... Isn't it nice? I'm a little tired of them. Fermented. I'm not really fond of fermented things.

I don't understand the view of kombucha. Maybe it's not that good. I've tasted something that can be okay. I'm fond of a lot of things, but some things I'm not a fan of. And ceviche and a lot of fermented things. Not very fans. No. Kimchi. Kimchi. No, you know Not very fan of it. No. Kimchi.

Kimchi. No, you know what? Not for me. No. Not for me. But I've never heard it before. I feel like it's beer everywhere. You are very muslim.

I know it's hard to get alcohol in a lot of... Morocco. For example. Morocco, isn't. Morocco, right? Something that was in Morocco, we don't have it all. They have something like semi-lawful boos. Yes, okay. Is that why?

No, I think it's mostly that there are fresh surf people there, who just want a juice and put themselves in it. Do they become so nerdy, fresh surf people there, who just want a juice and get ready. Did they become so nerdy? Some of them were pretty hardcore. It was very... at the evenings... We had to take a dip every quarter to get to where it was, in a way, life at night. Otherwise it was pretty dead at night. And then we could sit at a restaurant just for us. And then there are twelve people at work.

And then it's just us. Damn, it was very exciting to take a tour. What do you say, Langk, is that where you're going? I mean it. I think it was absolutely perfect. And you go to the beach and there they have built like just snacks of their own such huts or kiosks where you where they have a freezer with ice-cold beer and you sit on a chair and watch the sunset.

It's a bit of a There is a little oasis with a waterfall and fresh water. There is everything you need. And then you just move there and start building your own small country town. Yes. Think about how bad that is. Yes. It's not about building. You don't have to plan the building state.

You can build whatever you want. Yes, I think it's a little easier. Easier? Yes. I got it. I have also thought about... The family has a cabin on the mountain, up in the highlands. And I've also said many times in the podcast that I feel like days away from becoming a prepper.

I have it almost at the top of my block, that's what I'm going to start to prepare. I love the idea of starting to prepare, and that they have a rough, bad reputation. You must be the preparer. I don't understand anything. They are the only ones who understand. One thing is that I'm not a fan of hysterics. I don't think you should be hysterical, and I don't think you should be so pessimistic, but to be able to siss fan of that. I don't think you should be hysterical or pessimistic, but to be able to have fun with that. That's probably a nice hobby.

Isn't it a nice hobby? Yes, I think it's fun with the preppers that they want everything to go to hell. Because then they are above your business. That's what they are. They have everything ready. That's what I... I think that... I talked to Morten Luram about this a while ago. He talked about the

the hut on the mountain. The last ditch. That's where you go when it really hits. Because it takes a long time before the Russians or whoever invades come up there. And if they come all the way up there really long and and and and and

and and and and and and and You can draw it underground. And then you can start like this. Under the bunkers. You also need ventilation and stuff. But that will also be my last bunkers.

So you'll blow up the mountain and lower the container down there? Do you have to plan to build it? To blow up the mountain? Yes, because you have to blow up some mountains and stuff. But when you go underground, do you have plans to build there? I don't know. So you don't want that monk in a register? No, no. It has to be off the papers of course, but now you have to do the job, right?

You can't take dynamite sticks and go up and do it yourself. I thought he was the best fritzel who has now become a demon. He is doing a lot of trial and release. They are talking about getting a house, that he should actually get permission. Because he may not fit into prison. And then he has come up with a demand that he wants a basement. He does? Yes, that he should use it in some way.

But it's so funny that when Jose Fritzl gets mad, and then he forgets that we know what he's doing, and just asks for a bad luck to get a cell. It's synonymous Fritzl cellar. It's the same thing. I think he built the cellar with... He knew. If he knew exactly how bad it would be, I don't know.

Or I think often you become a monster. I don't know if we start as a monster, but you become one. It was maybe like that with him too. He had a daughter who was a little wild control. You don't necessarily start as a monster, but you become one. It was maybe the same with him. He had a daughter who was a little wild rigger. And so, because she wasn't supposed to hang in the wrong environments, he just locked the girl in. And that she would be there for 24 years. And that he would be the best father and father to many of them.

I don't think he necessarily did that. If that was his plan, he would be a total fool. But he built that bunker, or yes, the bunker basement. And had a construction project. It was a very small construction project. Because when you dig out so much, or it should be a lot of material in and out, don't you think? Don't you think that at the time there was a neighbor who did something when people were building something? And then they were like, yes, yes, Josef, and then there was Gjerda, what are you building? That they had the small house. Uboe did it. He built a cellar, it's obvious that it's happening now. But the thing is that she died, and of... No one saw her at 24 years old? No, but they had a kind of...

Her mother was involved in it. That's what I'm sure... You probably don't know that. Or maybe someone knows. I didn't explain it. The thing was that he faked a letter. That was from her. That she had moved to a certain sect.

And that she sent a letter secretly, maybe even he got her to write it from the basement. And that it came in the mail. Hello, mom and dad, it's going well, hi from the sect. No collective self-respect yet. Or no view of collective self-respect. No orger, no pigs. We have a top. Green and own vegetables. Yes, almost. Cheap to introduce, but that's smart. You can say a lot about Josef, but he wasn't an idiot.

He was quite smart. He was a good rig. Yes, we have to agree on that. I was wondering if you could give me a top 3 or a sort of poll about what are your favorite topics, what do you think is most interesting to talk about, and then you forget both the audience, the conversation partners and the ethical and moral... No, I don't dare to say that. No, it's fine. I forget the ethical and moral aspects as well. Do you have a third place? Maybe I'll talk about some things I've done in my career. Your career? Because then you'll forget about yourself. Yes, absolutely.

And what would you talk about? If you want to talk about it? I can take it. I'll just sit here. I a minute, I can take it. I'm just looking forward to it. I was going to forget who I was talking to. We all forget. So you're going to talk about your earlier career. And the stories you've been through. Because that's what's fun.

You probably know this from when you talk with colleagues in the humour industry. It's quick to draw up some anecdotes from the things you've done. It doesn't have to be braggers, it can be just... I have a lot of stories like that. I tried to play concerts in all the municipalities in Norway.

There were about 1056 concerts. And there were many places where I played for two songs. Yes, I know. And that feeling, sitting again with the song 4 and knowing that you have three songs left. But there were two that were sitting in the sun with you, right? Yes, the strangest thing was that at a library, in a remote library, nobody was meeting up. So it was just him, the librarian. But you had to... It had been when you first were in the municipality.

Yes, that's right. That's what it was. I had to walk away. But tell me when nobody comes. Yes, because it was him. Yes, it was him. It was him. He was at work.

Yes, yes. But it was him. It was the audience. He cl but he was there. The audience was there. He clapped first, right? And it was so weird because he made a point of just being there. But outside the song, because he was a bit weird, like a bibliotheque. And after the song, he was just completely still and in control of the stage. But he sat there for 30 minutes, as I was doing. And if he had left before the first song was finished, would you have counted?

You have to take that up with the committee for the tour. It's like when we see three falls in the forest, and no one hears it. If Rossmann plays in the Gock municipality and no one is there else, has he played a concert? It's exactly that, three falls, and that's a philosophical question. If three falls in the forest and no one hears it, then I think neither an animal nor a human being has fallen. It has fallen, but then it has a sound. Is that the idea? Is it philosophical? No, it is actually scientific too. You might want to think it is philosophical, but I actually have the phase.

I have drawn it up a few times, and some people think it's crazy, and I totally suggest it. Of course it has... But the point is, has it fallen? It has. Because that's what you want, in a way. But has it lost sound? Because sound is nothing more than waves. And waves are everywhere. Every time. But sound is nothing else than waves until a receptor takes them in. So I would say that the phase is that no, it's not a sound. If no receptor takes them in. No, because the sound is when you first hit the ears, then it becomes...

Yes. But yes. My most glistening... And then it will be... Yes. What status? My most glistening... I had my first solo show at the start of my career at the start of my 20's and then we were...

And it was full of shows, we were going to Kongsberg to the energy meal, if you haven't been there. I haven't been there, but I know the place. And Jørgen Epe was going to be there to support and... It was a really good experience. And then four people came. And it was two older couples. Oh yes.

And then there was someone who was supposed to work in the bar. I remember that it could have been a hell of a concert. I didn't always beat the old people. I was young and fresh and unknown to all that. So it could have been a hell of a concert. But I remember they gave us those big concerts. They did? Yes, it was crazy.

It was something I never forgot. Because it was... I feel a bit disappointed. There were only four of them. But it's a memory. Yes, it is. But it does something with the self-dissatisfaction. But it's a kind of heroic... That's what I'm comforting myself with. It's a heroic effort to perform it. Because I think many people would have struggled more than me to stand there.

Because when it has happened so many times, I have said that I have stunned that tour. I understand that if I play a Tuesday in a municipality where no one has heard, I understand that it is not well received. But at the same time, it has to be done. I don't feel like I'm thinking about it. I don't know what it is, but it's an effort. It builds character, I don't know. Yes, it does build character. And the fact that you have done all those things, and I have also been in the war,

I have done various jobs, and I have, in the bar at Maritim. Maritim, yes. And then there was some kind of effort to make a song. And I remember you just didn't know what to do. I don't think you did. No, no, it was a servitor who came over and said, Yes, you're not going to make a song here. And I was like, yes, I'd love to do that.

You didn't know? Yes, but then it was quite easy, he didn't get the technique. No, that was it. That was what it was about. Yes. Damn. No, of course, but other things, is it a lot of... Is it a lot of topless things? When you're out there, have there been any tits and that sort of thing? A typical rock'n'roll thing, right?

Yes, you still do that. I can't complain about that much. I can complain about myself... I don't know if I've complained about myself anymore, but I think I've signed two girls. Two girls? In my 12 year old career. Two from different... Two pairs. Two pairs. Two two two two

two two two two two two And the thought of it... When you come... Because it's not necessarily a girl you love who comes away. It's one of those fucking 40 year old ladies who just want to have some attention when they're free from their boring life. And then you sign the day and take a little sip of honey in the White Rush. A little bit of the White Rush. Shrek, and then it's winter.

Yes, that's how it is. Damn, that's a drink. That's Rock'n'Roll, than the White Rush on mother's milk. Yes, that's fine. I don't know. I'll taste it if... The only pimp lotion he drinks, you know. If he drinks it first, is White Rush, on milk.

But are there many, I just wonder, in the comic industry, you who have been in the fight, because I see now, with young musketeers and such, that I don't know if there are so many who are interested in going the hard way anymore. That in a way something like social media is much better, I understand that, it's much better to be maybe a little nationally known on social media before you go out to perform. I saw you had a little rant on that when it came to the music industry. I've seen it from the side, the music industry is much worse than the humor industry. But I've seen how artists lose more and more power and power. And Spotify has got a lot of power, so there are a lot of playlists there,

and that's really difficult. And of course there are the celebrity aspects, which have a lot to say. But it's important to understand that in the humor industry as well. But there is something about it. You can of course walk the tiktok path, and the zoom path, and then get famous, and then have a career and make money from it. But you are hopeless if you don't have a big talent and work from tiktok to stage. Yes, absolutely. It's a long way. I've seen

very famous people bomb hard on the stage. You have one minute and you live one minute on it. And then you have to deliver there. I have a lot of respect for those who...

I don't care if people are familiar with social media, but they do their job, or other things. They do their job, stand on the small stages, try people, you can take them with you, and then they will have a chance to stand in front of an audience. And there is not as much of that anymore in the music industry, such as support, working and warming up. work and warm-up stuff. There are still some rock bands and stuff like that. But I may miss coming here, so you will show yourself. Yes, it's very important. Yes, it's very important. It's what society is based on, from the old days, is the education, that you take the young people into the working life. Or just be a part of it. My son, now we are going to war, you are not going to be held in the world all the time,

but you are going to see, make a boy see. And they were around and saw the bloodiest hit. Yes, yes. It's crazy. Something happens, luckily. But I think maybe... I think it's fantastic when I've been allowed to be with others, like for example I've warmed up twice the Blackdebber show twice. It's a comedy rock show. I have been there alone and had a show. Is that only with your own band? Yes, that's right. And that band is just a joke. It's really cool.

It's fantastic because it's so difficult to find a secret that it's a calm country, which is where I listen to and draw the most. So if I'm going to set up a concert in Kongsberg, it's very difficult for me. It's not impossible, but it's very difficult. So to be able to stand there and say, hey, we have a crowd here, you can show them. It's fantastic. I know, but it's less and less of that. It's pretty, it's completely normal. Yes. And it's, I was super valuable. I was, like many others, been on, been on a tour with Dag Søraas. And got that, one thing is to learn to be with him, and he is very good at teaching him from the stage. But also to be able to warm up for the fucking audience. It's up in the smallest places up in the north, and there were some real rounds there.

It's useful as hell. But I feel that we are pretty good at it. We are good at helping each other. It's a bit easier if you just need to get along with yourself. But if you are a band and you are going to have another band, then it's an extra car full of instruments. It's logistically a bit more challenging. And how is it that you can't use the same instruments? I can, but people are a bit strange when you have managed to build yourself up on a band and you want sound close to it. And some are very good at it. But I understand that they want it, they have sound tests and they want it to be just like that when they come on stage. I understand that. So there are some who have doubled, that they just stand in front of the other reinforcements and stuff, with their own.

It's a bit more work, but of course there are more people who do it, and that's good. Because it costs a bit more for the band to do it, but then I like it, it gives so much to you, that warm you up. There are many things we should have done, that the society just stops doing. We have entered into a deep, modern, challenge of humanity. There is so much... There is something about the old artists. You've seen or heard about this in capitalist opponents. I've heard about this. There have been whistleblowers everywhere all the time, but you haven't heard of it.

But it's inextbearable thing with capitalism, the money-stealing world. Those who are at the top don't care about people for a second. They just want to earn more and more. They just look at numbers all day. Yes, yes, yes. The last episode was about our food and how they control the whole thing. Everything from dictating what the beans should do and can just choose and pick. You have to own or control the distribution line and decide the price. And the excess they get from huge prices goes to the few at the top. Neither the cash nor the shop staff or the bidder gets to be part of that price range. It's insane. And this is like, we eat and what do we eat? What have we forgotten? I mean, it's like, it's a debate around if whole food and raw food based food is the best.

I mean, it's a debate because the big food producers have a lot of power and a lot of lobby. Don't you think? Nestle and the bastards there want to say a lot. Of course they want people to buy their powder porridge. Think about the money. Yes, it's fantastic. So cheap to make and they know a lot about it. Is it a sorrow for the children? I have a lot of heart for that. They work hard for that. I'm afraid that... Again, we are now into a very brain-dead attitude.

We live here, we live here, we have it so fine. We look at some things, some TikToks and some shit, and then we forget some important things. And then we just give Karl Blansch to the ones who are in charge of this. Absolutely. It's just to turn off the brain. It's very easy to turn off your brain. It's all too easy. It's nice to add, of course. Top 3. Two topics in common. On second place. Second place. It has to be music.

Yes. That's what we talked a lot about. All time favorite. What's your best band? That's a good question. I've been on a trip. I'm not a violent music nerd, I have to admit. I'm not all up and down and have to listen all the time. But that's my favorites now. What's fun is that I started with rock. Rock rock band was all from Metallica, System of a Down, I love System of a Down. And later on came Zeppelin and Beatles. Zeppelin sounds really good.

Zeppelin is fantastic, and there is so much good music. But when I got close to the 20 years old, the country came into my life. And then there was Willie Nelson, Chris Kristoffersen, those guys. They had a fantastic amount of good music. Willie Nelson and Chris Kristoffersen in the same... Yes, yes. Is it him who died recently? Yes, he died last year. He did.

Gammel Krok, he was an actor. He played in the 70's, Astaris Bourne in the 70's. Like Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper did in their remake. He was the superstar! I don't know much about him, I'm sorry. He was, together with Highwayman, Chris Kristofferson, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash and of course... Oh my god, who are the four? Yes, I can't remember. That was a bit weird. But they were huge superstars and stuff. And what was fun with Chris Kristoffersen in it...

Van Morrison. Van Morrison, he's good. I think I'm very fan. Yes, he's good. Chris Kristoffersen was the country, but he was a bit younger than the others. He was more emotional and political. And it was really a bit unheard in the country. Was it? Yes, it was like... It was supposed to be love songs and stuff. What was an HBO series with road stories from the country world? There was a lot of wild basses there. Tales from the Torbos. That was totally wild. Johnny Paycheck, one of the most yellow,

a little man with a nice hat, because he had it so complex to his height. He was a clown. He was thinking of tricking everyone with a big hat. A huge hat. Paycheck, he was a good musician, but so naive. Maybe that's where it all started, with that series. It was damn good, with characters, a lot of drugs, and chaos. I just had a really wild base. Give me something... I have just started to...

I have just gotten some money right in my pocket. It's totally rotten. It's really gross. What's his name? Bronson? What's his name? The guy with the... Chris Stapleton.

Chris Stapleton, yes. Is he a bit too commercial? No, he has pipes. He can sing. He is very good. I think he is damn good. I'm not that good at the real big contests now. I don't know much about that. But I know a lot of the good ones. There. For example, a guy named Sturgill Simpson. I'm going to write it down. I'm going to find my music in the internet. I think I know him. Sturgill Simpson. He's good.

I've heard about him. And Billy Strings. Billy Strings, yes. That's Bluegrass. Yes, very good. That's a new Bluegrass, maybe. He is totally crazy good. What do you think about Call to Wallah? I don't know.

I don't know. He has become very famous. But I felt that for once in my life, he heard before he became famous. I got some tips from him and he was like, fuck, I'm the king. I'm sure I'll check it out, but I'm not sure I know the big ones. I just don't have a clear overview. He has a very western country style. He also has old...

Yeah, him! Colt and Wally. He has 13 silver dollars, an old... Yes, him! Colt and Wally! He has like 13 silver dollars and an old history from the western times. He is Canadian, but he is really dark. I got a shock when I saw him when he was so young. He is like 70 years old. He is good. Bigger strings, yes? Yes, let's see. I can recommend one of my top albums, and that's Willie Nelson.

It's a live record. It's called Willie and Family Live. It's very good, because then you hear how much pressure it was. And bongas, and piano, and... yes, totally boss. Yes, we'll take that. I have some. Beautiful. If you... The theme you always want to be in... What is it?

It's film. It's film? Are you filming? I'm filming. I'm very fond of film, but it's getting less and less of it. I think sometimes, if it's the first half of the time, I'll often watch and try some documentaries. Yes, it was even worse before, with me, with movies. It was daily. But it doesn't work in the life I have now. But now it is. Now I'm going to have a lot of fun, and I've seen it in a long movie.

I'm fond of epic, heavy stuff. That's right. And of course I'm a big fan of the Ringen series. And that's because it wouldn't have been possible if I hadn't grown up with the movies. When I was in perfect age, and it just hit me. Something so damn, like nostalgia is huge. I saw you again before I left, like three weeks ago. It's a whole new world. But don't you agree that the Peter Jackson trilogy is the best movie made based on books?

Yes. And many nerds will complain, but then they feel that they don't quite understand how to prioritize when you make a film. Because the universe he creates is fantastic. And he has also been involved in some of the children's elements that you find in the books. And he is part of the rings of power, of course. But Bombadil is a beloved character in Rignes' books. And he is the same as Gandalf, a Mayan, an alien creation. But he is from outside... Now it's probably someone who will arrest me for something, I'm sure.

It won't be me, I can't sleep with all the pringles. But he is a bomb. He is clearly the most powerful of all creations in the universe. But for some reason he doesn't use his powers. So you could just stop the whole story if Bombadil had used his full powers. If I understood correctly. In the books he is singing and whining and walking around and is a very silly character. And he was just written out of the movies. And there are several scenes where he comes and scares the mutants and stuff.

But the whole universe, the film music is fantastic. Totally next level. I mean the films are incredibly good, and they are pretty good. The films are the best, I like both watching the film and the nerdiness around how they played it. And it's a golden age with Ringles, because there's so much behind the scenes and so on. And so much new stuff. When I saw Peter Jackson playing the sound of the organ here, he's at a football stadium. And instructing football fans.

10 000 people had to get that sound to work. That's really cool. And it's like, it's detailed work and it's really fun. It's things like that that you don't do today, of course, because it's machines that take it away. But you have to miss something, miss a little bit of it too. Yes, it does. To get a football stadium to scream so loudly. I didn't know that. No, it was new bit there too. Yes, you did. To get a football stadium to shout like a Harvey Weinstein. He is the orc.

Or he is an orc, right? He is a hybrid. I usually say that he looks like... Do you remember Paul Bang Hansen? The old movie nerd. The old movie director. He had this and that. He looks like Paul Bang Hansen, the orc.

There's a catapult stone from Minas Tirith, when the orc is standing on the ground. As you can see, he comes towards you, and right before he hits you, he moves one step to the side. He is based on Harvey Weinstein. Which is even more fun today. Wasn't Weinstein the one who produced the movies? Yes, it was Dafferan.

We can remember when there were more people in the audience. I don't know if it was Mira Max. But he had a finger in the game, Dafferan, because Peter Jackson was so pissed off about him. Because he was supposed to drive the main so much. Was that why Frodo or Leia Wood looked so scared and played so well. They were scared all the time. They were all around. Look at that.

The wardrobe, poor thing. Harvey Weinstein. It's interesting how many big, big hits in the music industry, the film industry and the comical industry, so many that have just been completely crazy. And I'm afraid that they've just discovered a break for that. It seems like they have been in the same position for so many years. He was a guy who was so damn cocky and seemed so damn odd. But also those who have been opposed, those who have had the Bill Cosby aura around them, who operated in the shadows, they are often the most scary. Yes, absolutely, because then you don't know.

Jimmy Savile, right? Yes, that's right. With children's TV and such beautiful father figures for several generations. The cozy, fatherly type. Damn. Do you have any favorite movies from the past? Yes, I have a few. For example, one I like to bring out is the film called The Wrestler. Okay. With Mickey Rourke.

Yes, yes. And the thing is, again... Wrestler? Yes, the wrestler. Yes, yes, I've seen that one. Yes, it came, it's not new. Yes, but it's from the 2000s. Yes, then I'm new.

What's so good about it is that it's both a fantastic story, but the story behind how he was played, because Mickey Rourke was excluded from Hollywood, because he was unbearable to work with. He knocked down directors and met up at the wrong time and everything was late. So when the director wanted to make that movie, there was no producer studio that wanted him. They didn't want to make him if Mickey Rourke was going to be there. So then the director ended up just financing it himself. And saying that he is in Mickey Rourke.

Now there is a lot of people who are playing, so you can't fuck up. He pushes so hard. And it's a very close-up film. And they have used real people who are in the scenes when he is at the shop. It's a completely sunny scene again. It is so nice and good to touch on what I like best about films when they get the real thing. Genuine. And I think it does it very well.

And more tips. People appreciate it. I love to hear that. I love to talk about it. Yes, I know that. It's your first place. Fantastic. Dreamboard. One film that she is very genuine and real, is called Sound of Metal. I love it. Yes, true.

Oh, you know, it's one of the films I've seen that went wild, had a really bad feeling. Oh my god, that was totally crazy. You have the drums that makes you deaf. Yes, punk drums and a lot of deaf actors with us, and they are deaf in real life. Yes, we have done that right. We like that. We like the Woking. Yes, yes. You will die playing it, right?

Yes, of course. It's fantastic and it's a good story. And then they get the sound design there. You can hear how it sounds with a brain implant if you die. Yes, that was it. And the title is so good considering that. Yes, true. Shit, I hadn't thought about that. No, it was... Is it strong?

It's fucking fun to bring it out. I had forgotten it before you mentioned it. Yes, true. Incredibly good movie. It won Oscar. Yes, it did. And maybe a couple more. It was absolutely very good. Yes, one more. Okay, then you should hear. It's fun that you don't go for old classics, because there's Casablanca, and the fight against Christ.

Shut up, I is very sad. I try to watch the classics, but they don't hit me at all. It's difficult, because they are often... It becomes a kind of study, in a way. Okay, now I'm going to rewind back to the 50s, and then I have to understand why this is so good, because I've come out. But what you wanted when you watched a movie, you wanted a big movie experience, so you study it. You don't necessarily want to study a movie, that can be interesting.

Yes, and it's like the same as the theater, you should always have the Ipsen and these classics. And that's very interesting for the theater nerds. And of course it's interesting to see you, but you lose a good part... Yes, quite a few theaters have been made that actually are important things at the same time. Which in the highest degree of Ibsen was what was doing, and was so brilliant at. So for example, anti-theatre and several new theatre groups now do just that. And it hits so hard. You actually manage to get young people back to theatre. And that is important.

Yes, that's it. That's it. You want to hear my third tip? Yes, of course. It's School of Rock. Yes! of course. It's School of Rock. Yes! Jack Black. It's Jack Black before he became a I was able to express my personality. People who played and played with guitars and drums at 12, 13, 14, I don't know how old they were when they came out.

How strong they were. Because it's about kids rock. And here it is clear that there is a guy who wants to tell this story. And that's important when you watch a movie. And if you watch a movie that's just a smooth movie, you understand that this is going to be released because it's so smooth and so on. There's no one who has a burning desire to share the story. But that's remarkable how they do it. They want to make it really good. I came up with a film myself, which I also mean, it is made with so much... It is so incredibly well made in all its leds. And in all its leds there are people who have become totally tone-deaf in the modern film industry and in humor.

And it's the best scene experience I've had. A whole scene with everything, it was so much laughter, it was so good atmosphere. Superbad. Fantastic film. Totally agree. And those who have seen the Rogue and Joan Hill,, they all say that there is no high school or what to say, such kind of movies. And they call the genre high school. It's like Comic of Age.

Yes, there is no better in that genre. And I agree, this one is so incredibly good. And they train the casting. But I think several of them were in Freaks and Geeks, which was a show that was the best... what was it called? Appetow? Judd Appetow. And there was James Franco and such, right? Yes, I think he was there too. It was a good bunch there. Yes, a good bunch. Superbad was fantastic, it hit super wide and became very popular.

A little less than the previous one, it was a bit like The Gang, not quite like The Gang, but a film called Hot Rod, which went straight to DVD in Norway. Hot Rod, what kind of movie is that? It was the debut of the movie, which became Lonely Island. Yes, it's the stuntman movie. Stuntman movie. With Andy Sandberg. And it was the best,

he who... Kenny Powers, I forget the name of the actor, he played the same role as Sidon. He has a kind of a thoroughness. There are a lot of people who have a very tonal connection. I completely forgot about that. Will Ferrell is my... no, he is at least on the show. The same gang. Funny. Yes, the same gang. Fun. It was inspiring. That movie, Hot Rod and The Office UK, I was in the middle of that time with Rye.

It was super inspiring. I remember we made an exam and a tantamount performance. There was a bit down. Yes, I did. Yes, you did? Yes. And there you got, like, those subjects where I was good, and everything else was bad and mediocre. But then in the theatre production, we were directly evaluated and characterised by the setting we made.

And then there were probably many who went in there, okay, this is it, yes, it should be, and it should be like this and like that, and it should be serious, and it should be... But it was about how you took a genre and performed it. So then we found a kind of a fence. Me and a couple of others, where we made, basically, old fashas, which are not made that much anymore. You have Petter Pan, who is playing now, our 18F, is a fashas. But it was very popular before. Inside and outside doors, and there are some clear rules for what a father should do.

And we made all the fathers, and we fulfilled all the criteria. And we were also the reviewers, and it was damn fun. And we drew in sixes after sixes. The king? And then there were some blue copies of some scenes from a scene in Hot Rod where the nerdy guys are going to introduce themselves to a girl they like a little. And then he says again, my name is Mike. And then he can say a name, something they like, I think. Something like that, like a present. My name is Mike and I like to party. And then he comes in the other one and says, my name is Steve and I like to party. and I was going to say, my name is Steve, and I like to party. And then there is this fight around the well-played, funny scene. He said it first, I like to party.

And it's so incredibly tight that it's I like to party. And there are some guys who don't like it. I remember we took that. And we took it to Norway. It was so much fun. So it was fun on the drama line? I had a fantastic time there. There was theatre and a review at the same time. Yes, because there is a difference. What school was it? It was Manglere.

Manglere school? I don't know where it was. And Bjørn Halt moved to another school. Okay. Because I went to Romerica folk in school. I had been on the Dramaline for three years at Skjæsvanget in Haugesund. And I got shocked when I got to Romerica, because there were cool, well-trained, cool people who did theater. And that's what I like from Oslo. Because you don't find that in Haugesund. If you're doing theatre and especially if you're on the drama line, you're not cool. No, I understand what you mean.

It's not like, oh my god, everyone has grown up in a cool gang with cool people, because it was just nerds. And I think that's really silly to think about. Peak Performance, the sketch group that was in here as a guest a while ago, has a really funny sketch where they play very... Is it the girls? The girls, yes. I saw that on Vasuspotland, the drama line... Yes, the drama line sketch.

It was fantastic, I had to see it several times. Very typical. You have a bunch of people like that. If you are so... It's like an actor. If you are very sad, like a drama student, who doesn't have the antennae out in the world, but is very locked in a nerd drama, and it often goes hand in hand with cosplay-like stuff, and live-ing and stuff. It's a bit difficult to suddenly play a real person, in a criminal environment. It's a long way. It's a long way. It's a long way.

But I also went to Romeriket. Yes, so fun. So it was incredibly cool to get people with the same dreams and ambitions and talent from all over Norway. It was fucking fun. It was one of those years. The whole time. Damn, we were... It was hell when we went there. How old are you?

I'm 31. So I was there around 2012-2013. Right? I was there in 2008-2009. And... Do you say 2008? I don't know. But I understood. I can say that.

28th. 28th. We were a hell of a group. We were partying so hard. And then there was the big choir. That was on TV. They had recordings out there. And they had after parties every weekend after they had played in a show.

Oh shit. They had after parties at the Kålety Hotel. Yes, yes, yes. And then we walked through the forest from Romrik to Kålety Hotel and partyed with, it was a bit like celebrities there, and I remember there was a piano man there and if it was all sang there and it was full of noise. And Elg, the artist Elg was there. And we were, it's a story that we were at a Nars game with him, and he smoked weed from his old pipe.

And he sat on the floor, sat in a hockey position, just rested on his knees and talked about old things. Ah. And... It was a very violent experience. Oh my. And I remember that I had a company at Kålt Hotel many years later. Mhm.

I told them something, I think I said it in the podcast before, so I didn't want to take it. There were a lot of stuff in that story. But I told this story because it was fun. I picked up the curtain in the conference room we were in. And just through here we walked and went to the hotel. And talked about Elg and he said he smoked weed. He didn't hang out. I just told the story. And it was a damn good atmosphere. People thought it was really fun to listen to. But then I got complaints afterwards.

Because there is always someone who reacts. And the complaint was that they didn't think it was okay that I threw fire under the bus. That's crazy. Do you think they were? No, it's not possible.. He's a rock legend. People will be surprised if he's not a blue-haired guy at Larspull. I remember he said that once. He was taken for a party in Brysselom at the airport. It was a new thing.

I'm an old hippie. This is what I do. And what people think about that? Fuck it. No, but it was... Yeah, but there was a lot of weed. We smoked. There was one that was smuggling in. A lot of weed. And this was taken...

There was one that was smuggling this. He had a drug addict in his family. And I think this was okay. No, it gets a bit complicated. I thought that was incredibly nerdy to do. Yes. You're starting at 20, you're young and you... And then she's going to slap you.

It was a violent drive. It was exposed. You were called in on the roof one by one. You understood what was wrong. And the roof one by one. He understood what was going on. And... I remember, I think I remember. You got to expand and get discharged. I was a little irritated. I got a few weeks to go home, in the best case.

It was pretty hard. I remember I said... I just refused. And I said, if you take blood tests... I said, I'm not going to take the blood test. Oh, damn. And then. It was a fun time. Where have we been?

It says 2.08, I think the total is 1 hour and 8 minutes. It's all on the average. It's always the one that ends. But should we give up or should we forget about the scenario? No, that's what the program manager decides. Do you want the scenario in the middle age or do you want the courage in your chest? The middle age. Yes, then you should get it.

People will say if you get tired of this, because it's an old show we've had many times now. And I enjoy it. I think it's fun to get... Okay, I'll just start. You are being unprepared, sent back in time to peak middle ages. The year is 1250, around 100 years before the plague in Europe. You suddenly enter the throne hall in a mighty castle to the gist of the audience. Who is that? What is that? The guards go to immediate arrest, but you get one chance to explain yourself to the king. The king is sceptical, but he buys the premise you are from the future, and base your remarkable clothing. The king gives you two fortnights, that is 28 days,

to come up with a revolutionary invention to prove that you are actually from the future. If you fail, you will be hanged for breaking into the castle. You get access to all the castle facilities and resources, the various smiths, the alchemist station, the kitchens, the shed and so on. What do you do and what can you do to prove your innocence? That's a fantastic premise. Yes, it's Lasse Brunvold's scenario. Oh my god. I have been thinking about this, this is a good close-up talk.

What is it? A friend of mine said that you could have just made a compass. But I thought, how the hell do you think I can make a compass? I don't know how to make a compass. Then it was a really nice mechanic. If I had made a compass and showed it to you, I would have won my freedom. You have to go through how you should do it, so if you have a chance, it won't work. You can't get back into the throne, but now you're just trying to make a compass, but then you're done. I tried to get the I don't think one string guitar is so rotten. No, maybe not. But maybe... Maybe... I would be able to play a good spread. Yes, but I think luckily...

They had it. They had enough. I think you have to... Because you have to prove that you are from the future. And to come up with things that you already have, better versions of it, I don't think that's necessary. Maybe I could use my work as a songwriter, to show the music of the future. That's not stupid, you know? No. That you just go through a lot of modern classics. I just played them yesterday, you know?

And hopefully this is so universally beautiful that even you would like it. Okay, so you come in, you have spent two weeks. In those two weeks you have tried to make a compass, and you have tried a little bit of everything and just like, no, fuck, I can't do this. Then you find out that you are just going to sing some songs, some cool songs. You come in there, the king says, okay, fine, what is it you have, yes, proof that you are from the future, what is it you have for us? And you have borrowed that you are from the future? What do you have for us? I have borrowed a lute. You master that. You have learned it on the road.

If they have a good tuning on that one, I would have tuned it in a way that I would have it working. I would have said that I have music from the future. And then I would have played... First I would have opened it with Smoke from the future. First I wanted to play Smoke Under Water. How would you arrange it? I would have played the classical riff. On the lute? On the lute. And then I would have added the bass. And I would have understood that this that this had never been heard before. Now it's gone.

And if it hadn't been enough, I think I would have played Yesterday by Beatles. And classic, totally unusual, nothing. I liked the original as much as possible. I think that genre is better than Smoke on the Water. I guess it's closer, yes. But Smoke on the Water has a future sound for you in 12th century. You also say that in Norway you have guests in English. Yes, that's true.

And even modern English. In the future, English is our second language. Not only old English, but modern English. Even something called American. Because it will emigrate Englishmen to American countries. That's the power of the world. You have some history in that too. Yes, always, because they don't have so many questions. But the Beatles are of course British. Yes, they are.

Poor guys from Liverpool. Oh, no, but that's good. It was really nice to talk to you. Yes, it's nice to be here. It was nice, and then the album comes. Yes, the album comes coming on February 28th. What's the title again? Pailing on failing.

Yes, a really cool song. It's not the first or the last song, it's in the middle. Pailing on failing. I've been thinking about it. I thought it was one of the ones I liked the most. Of many good ones. So it was something nice with that one. It was a local station or something like that. Or the next one. Local bus route at Garmøy. I liked that one.

It was very good. So check that one when it comes. And... Come to the concert. Have you played in all the municipalities in Norway? No, I played in 129. Only 129? Yes.

But you're not done yet? No, so if there's anything out there, just hit me up. Very good. Have a nice weekend and a nice day, and everything after you hear the words and everything. Okay, thanks for today. Bye bye! Modern Media