Fladseth - #228 - Bahare Viken

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

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Hello, yes. We are getting started. We have warmed up with some off the record talk, and we got the first hearty laugh. Now we are ready. Now we are ready to rock with this week. I almost stopped to say that I have a little light. Oh no, it's not me. Because I thought about you, that you are the most... She has disappeared a disappeared from the media. But hell, she pushed to a new period. Yes, in a period people thought I was her.

And I got a message on Instagram that was like... I've followed you for a year now, but I thought you were just a little bit nasty. So it was nice if you could tell that you are not her. I can't tell everyone you are not her. I can't reveal that all Iranians are not her. You have nothing to do with Bar-E-Lettens as far as I know. Absolutely not. We never met. But what the hell happened there? She was accused of being a secret agent. Yes, I think my family still thinks so.

Yes, they do. But do you also have family from Iran? Yes. Because... Have you seen Le Burro? No. No, because it's an agent series. A French direction. And there is a pretty close bond with Iran. Okay. French direction, and there is a pretty close bond with Iran. And what happens there is that they train secret agents who move to Iran or another country.

And then they go for seven years Iran and the atomic weapon technology. And that's how inventive it is. That's how exhausting. And if Baha'i is easy, or is the secret, then she was with Per for maybe 4-5 years. It has nothing to do with... And then she got kicked out of Iran, so she had to end up with Per. That was it. We couldn't be together any longer.

Or else Per would have hit up with Lettnes there. And then... And then she would have lost her job. And then he would she lost her job. And then she lost her job. And then she lost her job. Or if she lost her job, and then she had been stuck with Per Sandberg for a long time. No, there is something there. I don't know. For me, where I am now, 50-50.

Maybe it's a cliché love story that it started with that, and then they actually fell in love. Yes, it can happen. We never know. This is the most disrespectful start I've had in the podcast. What will you do when you hear about another woman? Ex-DPR Samberg. No, but you deserve a little bit, because when you have the same name. I get confused with everyone who has black hair. Not only from Iran, like White Havana.

People like that? Yes, Selma Ibrahim, maybe most. Now you have mentioned very different people, but they have black hair? That is what we have by chance. There are many small children's mothers who come to take pictures with me. Because they think I sell them. And now I have stopped saying anything. Because they just wait for their children to come home and show that picture.

And then they say, mom, that's not her. Isn't that a bit funny? It's a bit funny too. I don't take that. I've had a couple of times, and I remember one time it was so good timing in it. I was going to Latur, and there were three guys I was passing by,

who were either tourists or whatever, when they opened their mouths. I just heard what I passed by and drove by and heard just Hey, did you see that? It was Magnus Devold! No, but I thought who is it that you get confused with? Magnus Devold, yes. It must be the height then. Yes, it's height and then it's something a little... We have a little of the same thing.

But especially the height and maybe bit... We have a bit of the same thing. But especially the height and... Maybe it's a bit... I mean he has more of a doven face than I do, but maybe I'm just... Are you the same age? What? Are you the same age? He's a couple of years older. Right. So... about.

Yes, that's why. No, but that's mine. But I'm much more like Magnus De more than you do Selma Ibrahim. Do you think so? No, Selma, but Vita Vanda is different. I was asked every time I'm with Vita Vanda. Every time I walk with one of them, the other can walk 10 meters in front or behind us, and then they come over to us two and take pictures together. And then I say, Vita, should we tell them?

No, just smile and wave and go on. So I'm like a reserve sister. You take pictures and no one sees the difference? Oh, a very nice picture of Vita-man. Yes, it hangs on the wall. Just the week? Yes. A picture of Vita-Vana. Yes, it's hanging on the wall. Bareviken. You are a... I mean, we've seen you a bit in the farm.

Now you've taken over the podcast, Havla. You can come back a bit. We were in the gym together. We were. You were doing some gym. That was the first reality show I was on. Was it? Yes. Who are you? What's your background?

I don't know. What the hell happened? I ask myself that question every day. You do? Yes. I read a little about you. You were out early and was a editor for the magazine. Yes, I am out of the journalist. And I was a editor for Julia Bladet, who was a tenor magazine.

Tenor magazine, what do you say? Like Top. Do you remember Top? I know Top. But you are not in the target group. I will guess what it is about. A bit about horses and boy bands, and a bit about clothes. Yes. Maybe minus horses, because Vendie was a horse fan. But yes, everything from... It's very generalised. Girls' fan.

Yes, but it's spot on. We had our own special editions about Marcus Martinus and Isak Elgjot and so on. And then there was a bit of a clear and wise gap in between. Because it is also... The TENORING center is a very exciting group, because so much happens in that age. When you are between 12 and 16, then it is when you perhaps discover the world for the first time, and develop yourself more and think that you are so grown up and so on. So it was very... Yes, nice experience to work with that.

But then I had quite a new education. I had practice in Supernytt first, and then I was editor for Juleplade. There I was maybe 22, 23. And then I was editor for Den N New, which is also a magazine. Yes, I understand that. And then I stopped. I looked up. Or every time I told my boss in the Christmas leaf that I might stagnate a bit. I'm going to look much longer than in the Christmas leaf. You understand that. That I'm going to be in the Christmas magazine forever? You know what? That's the toughest job I've ever done. I was so happy. I had so much ownership of that magazine and that fashion group.

But you understood that you can't be in the Christmas magazine forever. No, so I got an offer from the new one, which was also in Egmont. And I said yes there too, because I didn't think it was fun to be a boss. You should be a reality celebrity. That was what I be a boss. You would be the most famous. I would be there. I don't think the role of a boss, neither as a editor or a boss, has been so fun. So I looked up, and went straight into being a boss and a boss in NRK. And then I looked at ADN and went back as a regular journalist and reporter.

When did you meet Jürgen and Pidana Tidslinje? It was during the NRK period. After I had returned from being a boss to being a journalist. So it was... It's been a few years now. Now I'm going to check if I have a false memory or not. Yes. Maybe it's a false memory or not. Maybe it's a memory with Selma.

No, it's not with Selma. But it could be something else. But I don't think so. Because when I think of you, I think... Because it's kind of like that you're a woman who both drives a motorcycle and does martial arts. One of them is right. It's a motorcycle? Yes. I have a Harley. Now I have to be careful not to be like that.

Oh, it's cool with ladies who ride motorcycles. It's sporty. I think I've never gotten that reaction. I think it's a bit because the men... I'm a bit weak for the brain horse, as we call it. Is that the motorcycle? Yes, isn't that what you call it? The brain horse, yes, probably.

Very likely, yes, I think so. And I think it looks cool when both girls and boys ride around it. And then of course they can tip over, but it's not good for you. You would have fit in that. Maybe I should have. Men who ride it, inflation in it, and it's like, yes, but are you going to have more things to brag about? But I feel there are fewer women who go for it.

And when you do, then you mean it properly. Yes, because I don't know anyone who has a motorcycle license. I don't have a gang I drive with. Because motorcycles are really very social things. For example? Actually, it is very, very, very, most social we have. There it is. We've seen that all year.

Yes, but okay, let me explain. For example, one thing is when you drive by another motorcycle on the road, you have to greet. Yes, yes. And that's social. But also like this, every Wednesday or Thursday, there is a meeting at the gas station at Tusenfryd. You use a lot of guest location to draw. You know that it doesn't have any function, but you can use it. That way to Tusenfryd. And they all meet.

I know them all. They all have a motorcycle club. I tried to start a NRK as a son of NRK. It was one trip with me and my boss. That's a huge name. Yes, it's a shame that I only ended with that. You have to know what the son of NRK is, which I saw on the fan page. It was so incredibly cliché and disgusting.

I was holding the DAW, but it was nice. Yes, it was nice. I stopped watching when they cut a penis. Did you? When did you start watching? But there is a difference. What is your style? Don't be lazy. You are not convinced by that. And your motorcycle style? I just put on some clothes.

You are a lot of skin. But not like motorcycle dress skin. I have some of those, but I never use them. So I'm a little bad. But I love the next motorcycle, I think it will be a racing. I love it. I love to race on the track. Then you can have a suit, but you should have a leather jacket with... Something that hangs, like nails. Yes, but like leather pants that flap in the wind. And nails are also nice.

Yes, but with a flap and some hair behind it. But every time I have loose hair, I get a lot of comments. So I try to put my hair in, I get a lot of comments. So I try to put my hair on, so that they don't see if it's a boy or a girl. There are comments after you're on the street. Yes. Right! Get a hair!

It's a head! No, no, no, but that's like... It's a bit what I feel that they say indirectly, but it's like... It's in a way nice, mean comments and push-ups and stuff, but indirect things, but it's nice comments and I hate it if I'm in a news story, or if they write about it, get a baby, become a father, things like that, that you don't have any choice, that you don't have to do. Then I feel like the whole of Norway thinks that I've called them and just want to inform them. I think people who are not in the industry don't understand that the media just make up the stories and quote you. Either it's an Instagram interview or a completely different interview, or whatever you've said to a friend.

But it's not like you're seeking that attention yourself. You don't do that. And it's nice when you've done something good or cool that you're proud of and have made a lot of effort. You are proud of your father, but it's not something you do for... It's not a TV series you have made that you want to make money on. It's when you don't get the attention. It's when you don't seek it yourself. That you suddenly get it. But you actually get...

I kept... I said I didn't write about it. But it was before I made it up myself that it was a problem. You can actually avoid it by not putting it out there, but it's more than... Too many meetings you can go through and stuff like that, it's a bit difficult. Yes, because last time there were a lot of interviews and phones and, or in cases. That was when I first saw on Instagram that it was a conference job. Before we get into that, my comparison was that when you drive around with

wavy hair, like a motorcycle horse, the others who don't think, oh, now she thinks she's lovely here. Yes, right? They think that I'm throwing my hair with will. Oh, that's it. That was the comparison. But yes, because you were taken over by Hauvle Øver. Now it's just called Hauvle because I can't pronounce Øve. Hauvle Øve. So, it's a sex-part guest. And there we were.

There we were. And now I coughed a lot, I noticed. You have to edit that out. But... You can't edit it out. That's the last thing. We'll edit it out here. Just add some extra coughing. No, I was so lucky to get to take over. I started with a very political correct answer. It was so funny. And I think it's very fun that VG makes an untraditional choice at the starting point.

And I think it's fun that they, in a way, it's their word, but put away the journalistic experience here. And that was what I thought could be cool for me to try it that way. I think I have been asked, do you never do journalism anymore? After I saw it on NNK. And then it's like, this is the most difficult journalistic job I've had. Because there are so many limits on, to other people who are not there. And a lot of private and detailed, intimate information. How much should you tell them not to?

And also talking to the Minister of Equality about the first time she was there. It's not that easy. And the whole time the road where I should go a little further in here, or should I not do it? I understand that it's difficult. Yes, and getting the other two all the time also comes out of it best. But here you have a... I have read a little about this. And it is completely clear. We are still... We have come far here, but some believe that it is too much to talk publicly about such intimate things. But again, we see that many young people struggle a lot with sexuality and how to approach sex.

And there are many above Trump and many who struggle, who never manage to get into it, because they get so confused. So it's quite obvious that you need it. Yes, and a lot of shame. Especially girls are so shameful. And just by looking at porn you're like, oh my god, that's something wrong. While boys aren't. I would almost like to find a guy who was more into boys. What do you think? Or should you say something? No, I'm just talking. What are you thinking? Should you not have porn shame at all?

Or is it okay with some porn shame, considering what it is? And how often does sex become a priority for you? I am a bit biased myself. I think it's difficult to answer neither yes nor no. Because I don't think you should be ashamed of it. When you watch porn, they are often to be a bit of a I think that is quite shameful for people, many, surprisingly many So it's more like that using a kind of help means you don't have to feel it But maybe like Pornhub, I got to hear something recently

What is that? Is that one of those? I understand. That's a police idea? Not as loud as... That's very funny if you had gone under that. But they have had a real cleaning up. And put much stricter rules for who is allowed to publish and be a part of it. And walked the round trying to get as much as possible out of it,

but more inside that is not so ethically made. So I mean that if you try to get a little into it, and try to find a side that doesn't make you need to have bad self-confidence in that way. At the same time... But at the same time, try to find every kind of porn you like, because... Porn is not porn, I think that's a porn. Because that rough, stereotypical porn is not so representative of how people are together normally. I see everyone as if they knew the possibility. It depends on preferences. Some people like it rough. But if you as a young person learn that it should be it should be, then it's a bit unfortunate of course.

Absolutely. But I think it's both a bit cute, a bit nice, a bit right, but also very strange and I want to laugh my ass off. It's the trend, the search terms that are common among young people. And I always mix it with, is it millenials? No, I'm a young people. And I always mix them up. Are they millennials? Millennials? No, I'm a millennial. And younger than that?

Gen Z. I mean, I've seen it before. Gen Z and millennials? Ethical porn. Is that it? Yes. That's a bit nice. They should be ethical and cozy.

They should see people being nice to each other. That's very interesting. They should be just peeing and being nice. Because I wonder if it's maybe among them. They don't have anything to do with it. They don't have anything to do with it. They don't have anything to do with it. They don't have anything to do with it. They don't have anything to do with it. They don't have anything to do with it. They should see people having fun with each other. That's very interesting. Because sometimes they... I wonder if it's because they're younger than you.

Yes, that's it. It's not necessarily because of the porn-searching category, but because of how they are together. They have become more violent. Really? Yes. More in a way, like, tormenting and harder, maybe a little more brutal. Because of porn maybe? Or because... Yes, that's what's interesting. I read an investigation, but it didn't say why. Of course, it's just numbers. But...

There must be something to say, I think. Because I don't have that much experience without porn to know. No, you do have a lot of that. So I think that defines a lot how a generation behaves like that. That's what I think. One thing is the ethical, of course. But it's so far away, of course. You care about other people, but it's always difficult to care about yourself when things are, when you don't know people, it's very far away. It's just a fact. And it doesn't apply to everyone, you can have a lot of empathy and care about everything, and that is of course a huge burden. But I think it's a bit of a mess if it's a little bit below that. I don't care, but I'm honest that I don't care that much.

One thing is the ethical. And that you don't know it's ignorance. I think it's a turn off to see someone get bullied in the condo. It doesn't mean anything. But if you learn that you need to have a porno to be yourself, and if you have it from a very young age, then it becomes a kind of dependency that makes it difficult to deal with a real situation. I think so. And I have also been researching this. And it is a well-known fact that you become a little numb.

That is a problem. Yes. That I become a habit, that the body also thinks that I need that. Yes. To be able to adjust to myself. Right. But there is no alternative to cut it either. It just becomes idealism.

Cut it out. Stop it. No, it doesn't work. So then you have to try to... But I feel that many people do it, to make a different type of porn. But again, it suddenly costs money. And is like... They make a different types of porn. But again, it suddenly costs money. And is like... They make different types of porn. They make one cycle.

You know what? I'm actually going to look it up. Yes, I also got that. I didn't check what you were going to say. I just read an article about it. It's very, very cozy porn. I think it's sex, but also very much nussing and playing with noses. What? I read about it. It's true. Nose kiss. It's fun that it's on the same page as the worst. It's really nice. If that's the trend, That's really fun. That's good. Do you have anything to say?

When I think about if we said what we actually talked about. No, you lost your job. Yes, just to finish that one. Because considering that you don't always know what will happen and what won't. Because before I said yes to the job, and especially afterwards, I thought a lot about what I would say yes to this, but what I would say no to taking that job? Which I thought was a bit of a thought, it was a little fearful method that I couldn't do anything new for example for a long time. And then it suddenly happened that it was the conference I was going to do. And this is not in a way like that, many have asked me if it was some kind of Christian arrangement or child's arrangement. It wasn't. It's a pretty commercial part of the industry, as I can say, even if I don't want to say who it is, because then it will be a completely different debate.

And it was out of the blue because I was the host of Havla now. Which wasn't when we signed the contract. So we had a contract and everything. Was it based on Havla during Marta's regime? Or what you were doing? Because I think you have a different style. Yes, and we are not going to be... I'm not going to be Marta either, and we are quite different profiles. But the reasoning came right after the first episode was published. And there was nothing about whether I had said something wrong,

because many have asked, but have you said anything about this company? Have you said anything that is in a way unethical in relation to what they stand for? But it was just that they can't stand up for the content that is being talked about in the hall. And that they are not friendly, but serious program leaders who they wish to have their event. That was the formulation. So it's just about talking about sex in public. I interpret it as that. I don't think I've heard that episode before, to be honest. It was more about what you suddenly are linked up as.

As a conversation profile that talks about sex instead of a journalist. So I feel a bit sorry. What I felt most was not necessarily the missing part of the assignment. It was that 10 years of experience as a journalist and a news journalist just gets taken away after one episode. Yes, but I think if I should try to analyze it a bit, you don't have to let that go so deep. It's one task. And I've had many tasks that I haven't lost in the past. But that I had to be pulled under the chest. Because they are simple people. It's not necessarily the whole company. Simple people have personal opinions about things you talk about, and they are also irritated

to do something about it. And that is very annoying. But it's not about you as a person, it's your worldview that comes into view. Yes, and then... It's like that. And then I get a bit like... Just that there had been something I had thought of in the past, that suddenly becomes real.

Yes, but it's just that there is one occasion, and then I'm not... I hope you don't take it so seriously, that Larez is so into it. I think you've made the right choice. And there are some people who think it's too much to talk about sex in that way. Who have personal thoughts about it. And that's what you've probably experienced. You can say that I was in maybe a small company, but in a person maybe? Yes, and I think it's a generation difference, and a bit stereotypical, but gender and age and those things. I think you have made a very right choice, and you are a very challenging journalist.

And an important thing, important that you as a serious woman take it, because you have Isaline Gut, as a serious woman, take it. Because you have Isaline Gutum as Marta, who is more of a cuddler. So you have a new voice in you, which is really nice. It's very good to hear young people on. And it's very nice for them to hear that you hear good people talking about it. It's nice that you say that. Yes, it's important. So that someone is angry about it.

It's always that someone is angry, and that someone is always angry. Don't you do that? Do you think so? But I didn't think it would be that big a deal, because I posted on Instagram about it, and then I went into the shower, and then I came out of the shower, and then, and then I went into the shower. And then I went out of the shower and then it was like...

A deep response from different journalists. So just about that, you never know what you're asking for. That it should be a case. It's not like I called VG and Dagblad and said like, Hi, now I lost my job and now you have to write about this. Yes. I think I've never gotten one like that. I've said a lot of weird stuff,. I think I've never gotten a storm like that. I think.

I lost it when I didn't get a new season of F***ing Slaved. There were a lot of journalists who wanted to have it. But isn't it also, in a way, as I try to look at it, that it's not a storm you ask for, or is so desired, but it is positive, because it means that it was very strange, because it was a good show. If not, they wouldn't have made it. It was because you were going to have a conflict, that they thought I was going to make a big deal out of it. And I understood that they wanted to, and I think I would have wanted to say it.

But it's the same way that I get asked a lot about who it is, who is the company or who is the organization. Because you want to have that conflict. You know you are a journalist, you know how the conflict sells. And when you came to the fucking place, they won the gold row. And that's the press room, and then you go straight down the press wall. And then there were a lot of people who were very concerned about it. But that's because they wanted that conflict, because then they knew that it would not get a new season. But then I'm glad I be a little diplomatic. We'll take a little spalt. Are you ready for that?

I'm very ready. We're going into a... This is Håkon who has found a random TikTok. There are a lot of scenarios. I have scenarios scenario in my head. And then I thought, it's a bit difficult to just spot a brilliant plan here, but let's try it together and solve this one. You have to hide, it has gone a bit viral, so probably no one has heard it, you have to hide from everyone on earth for five days. You get one month preparation and ten million to complete the mission.

Where are you going? You can be Amazon, Antarctica. It sounds very easy. After one month of preparation, all people on earth will start looking for you. What's your plan? And will you keep it for five days? So you get one month and ten million to make the master plan. And when you've walked one month, you're floating, and then everyone starts looking for you. I was on Extreme Jemsel, for a bit of a flashback to that. Yes, I didn't see that.

For two years. I don't know if she had the same dip. Yes, there were two of those. But then I found out that the best thing was to have a base with a passageway. You have one A and then you have one... A way to B. And then you have several Bs that you can run to. And then you just have to run. So it's...

If you have the possibility to prepare and have some resources available, would you think that... Because if everyone starts looking, I think they think that the most remote places in the world would be in a very secret place in the city. Yes, but maybe just in their bedroom. You think that you would even wonder the whole world with that old trick. That you would just have no way of looking at the most open places. Or at at home with mom, just give her all the money so she doesn't say anything. Because she feels that she can trust her mom. You can trust her, but I don't think she can stop them either.

No, they can just leave them. Or do they actually have to... If we think about it together now, do people actually have to have remuneration orders? Right? She can just say that she is not here. She is not here? That is maybe her father. People will find a salary. People might want to find a job for you. And construct something for you. So that they get a different kind of salary. Exactly. Okay, I was at Sebastian Solberg's new office yesterday.

There is a door into a secret room. Who is that? Because not everyone knows who that is. Sebastian Solberg? Influencer. Yes. What is his thing? He has some kids and he is a dress expert. I just have a crush on him, I think. A crush on you? Have kids?

Four kids. What is the attitude? New, separate, I would say. New single. Schildfluencer. Schildfluencer, that's him. But he has got a new office now. And then it was a bunker, so then we thought, if something happens, we'll go here.

So I say it again, I want to be a prepper. Prepper? Prepper, yes. What does that mean? Doomsday prepper. Prepper. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Do you want that?

Yes. It's very good. Have you want that? Yes, it's really good. Have you prepped yourself? And how? Do you have what you need? I haven't started properly yet. I've had so much to do. I have thoughts about getting a couple of months with a lot of time in overtime. And then I have to work.

And then I have to wait, because my wife is so damn angry. She is like a child when it comes to cleaning up things. And such boring things like that. And I'm like, ehh, boring. And I understand that. But I'm like, especially when it comes to cleaning up and such. But cleaning the table is the most boring thing. I did that last week. Or Stefan did it, actually. But I'm a bit special when it comes to cleaning and such. But cleaning the table is the saddest thing. I did that last week. Or at least my dad did.

But I'm moving now. And then you suddenly have to clean the table that you have forgotten. When you're done with your apartment, you think, now I'm done. And then you go into the table and it's like, oh my God. But it's like that. If you clean it all the time, if you have systems, you don't have to do so much at once. But she has to get... I have a big, big boat!

And I want to make a prep station of it. And the thought that if it goes really wrong, I have everything ready. And I like the systems that come with it. That you always have... system to make it. It's interesting that men are so concerned about organizing in the house. Yes, but I think everyone is already. Not everyone. No, absolutely not.

But if you like... I think women are also like... Yes, but it's more like when they're at home. No, do you think so? Not me then. Women are more concerned with the aesthetic, while men are more concerned with the main thing.

I think that the men who are first concerned with cleaning are very clean, while those who are not, are very rude. But they are very clean, but those who aren't, are very dirty. But I'm very clean, but not so concerned that it's always clean. No. Do you understand? No, but because you have it clean inside the closet.

I can accept that I have dust on my brain, right? No, no, no. Then I think I'm unhealthy. Yes, I agree. But I like more systems than being free from dust. Yes, it's with the cleaning part, not the washing. But what can we do? Yes, bunkers. Isn't there something safe and good about having a safe bunker with everything ready?

Or are you going to go with it and suddenly there will be a two- two attacks in Sweden. It's a bit like a contract for a co-op. It took me a long time to say yes to my co-op and write a contract for a co-op. Because I thought we would do it just because it was going to end. That you would put up the boat just because the world was going to end. It's just the thought that scares me a bit. That I would be like that. I would rather live my naive world and think that everything will be fine. But I'm very happy that we had that contract when it suddenly ended. Yes, because then what did it go on? I think I know what you mean. Yes, that's another story. We should have had a contract from the bank

and not one he has made himself. He made it? And you were still happy? No, I thought I was. And then I wasn't. I felt a bit sad now, because we have been very bad at it. For the same reason. It feels a bit like that. But it was something in connection with a different distribution of property,

which made that we took a round inside a lawyer to get it formal. And then it was put on some things. But this is me in the direction of me too. But I am a child. So I would never... They always want it to be good. As good as I can, no matter if we are together or not. But if I had been a drag, I would maybe try to squeeze some points that were advantageous to me. That's what happened. That's what you did.

But you are just as... Because you were just as happy with that one. It's good that we had it. Yes, in certain areas. But I would have preferred to see it as a normal contract. And not a self-made one. But now I have bought a flat with a friend. I thought it was a bit boring to live alone. So I bought mine and bought with her.

And then we know that hopefully we will not live there as two single girls forever. So then it was much easier to write a kind of contract even though we are not together, just to have an overview. And then it gives a lot more meaning to write it. So now I think this must always be done. To have a... It's smart, you know. Yes, that's it. That's it. I've always been interested in adult things.

And I've become more and more interested in that I'm just getting used to being a person who is not really adult. That I'm interested in doing things properly and thoroughly. I wasn't there when I was younger. My father is very like that. He has always been passionate about it. He does things properly when you do it first. You notice that. You're going to be a father like that.

I'm not that... He's going to be... He does things thoroughly. Yes, but that's how mom is. She is busy with making things right. She is like that. Once she enters my apartment, before she enters my apartment, she starts to wash my windows, but outside of the apartment. My mother too. She was with us two days ago. It was a very exciting experience. It was not like a... The stage was not one stage. It was crazy. I was away for a wedding this weekend, and I was moving out at the same time, so my mom and my stepfather would just help me a little. And then I came home and mom has put everything away. And it's just nice that she has cleaned up the closet,

all the drawers and emptied everything and put in the boxes. And then she was able to move. Including the bathroom drawer with... I have just been to Sisylline Guttormsen and there you get some sex toys at home. You have the whole goodie bag. And this happened the last sex players at home. And the whole goodie bag. And this happened the last time I moved as well.

My womanizer just disappeared. So I'm like, where does it go? Does she throw them away? Has she taken care of them? Does she have them herself? Where are they? Where are they? Not herself.

No, but... I haven't asked her either. But maybe you should. No, do you have to? No, I don't asked her about it either, but maybe we should do that. Do you have to? No, I don't have to. But it's of course... Or do you think she's throwing things like, oh my god, she's not like that? No, to have a text podcast I haven't come from a very open family. If she kisses on TV, she switches channels.

Okay. Still. Then it wasn't just... The TV series in the childhood was like, oh, that was far beyond what we were supposed to look at. But if we put it like a two-two, if she screws, when it's kissing, and then finds a whole drawer full of the worst things. There was one, maybe two them, one unopened. So it's not a lie. But it has disappeared every time I move and she helps me.

I remember before I moved to Brullupe I thought, Do I have to bring these to Brullupe? Just to avoid her. But I'll see if I can pack it out again. If they show up. But is it a kind of a phase that you just go to your mother's house and tell her to cover for you? Yes, right. What would you do? No, I think it's interesting that it's a kind of a hack here. That you go for it and just bet that no one will get a criminal case.

Because legally they need it. So that is a kind of... It can be a phase. But say that... No, because it doesn't say specifically in the task that it is not possible. But then you might want to put your head on the block, as I was saying. That someone will be so desperate after finding you, that they just plant a very serious thing on you, which is not real, but which will give you a death sentence.

But what happens if you find a dead man? If you find out, I would say that. And what about those who find you? No, it is not specified. It must be a sick woman's death. We just have to assume that the incentives to both hide and find you are great. It is about death and life. And that is the most important thing.

And that is the most important thing. And that is the most important thing. And that is the most important thing. And that is the most important thing. And that is the most important thing. And that is the most important thing. And that is the most important thing. And that is the most important thing. And that is the most important thing. We have to understand that the incentives to both hide and find you are big. It's talking about death and life and money, I think. I think so. I maybe made a dream that preps and maybe used the month and the ten million to make a crazy, fat snow hole on one of the poles. But it's cold. Yes, cold. But it's not something that's bad weather.

It's something that's bad clothes. And you get much better clothes for 10 million. And think about how much you are. And then you have to have like... Yes, you don't have to put any tracks, because people want to use both drones and satellites and heat-seeking stuff and all that stuff. Yes. So then you have to... Or, okay, do you get to the moon, Mars, for ten million? You might get to...

It's very expensive to get to the moon. Ten million is not so expensive. There are very few who get to the moon. Ten million is a small amount. Very small. The moon is... I think it's been without 50 people in the moon. It's possible that it's wrong, but at least not ordinary people go to the moon.

But you go in such... It happened once. Not ordinary people, but it was like... You could look for... There were some natural science teachers who got a stipend or something to go to your place, and then you died. You say that? Yes. On the moon? No, not to the moon, but to the space in the world.

Yes, then. Yes, maybe. But do you think it costs more than the money? Would you go to the space? I talked to her in the podcast, in the Katarina flatland and her husband. And Katarina said that she would not go out in go out in the world if she got a billion. What? I thought, are you talking about a small orbit?

Because that is the most I could do. Yes, agree. I would do it. I would give a billion if I could. I have been on NASA and tested a simulator where you were shot up. I would have done it myself, but I don't think my body would survive. I would have been physically bad just sitting in that machine. You can't be so car-sick. You can't be so self-conscious.

No, you can't. You have to endure all the four-gay-crows and all that. I think that's very bad. But otherwise I would 100% say that. When I looked up the new job and thought, maybe journalism is something for me. And if you don't get up and study astronomy, I think it's very interesting with everything that has to do with the world. But maybe not the astronaut part of it, but more the research part of it.

I think that's very interesting. Is it good in math and physics? No. But I would maybe study it to understand more about it. But I'm like a booker and then I try to understand the math in you and I don't understand it completely, but you just make it even more exciting, because you don't understand. That's what you don't know about the world that is exciting. Totally.

But if you can count on everything, it's not that exciting. Imagine that the whole world, the world is so childish, the whole space, the whole cosmos... The universe. Everything we see is just broken. Yes, it's nothing. The space, the cosmos, they are things we don't know about. I remember the first time I realized that, I was 13 or something. I remember sitting at the library and reading a book about black holes or whatever, and that the thought went up for me, and I became very sick and physically bad.

Because it's so far away. You can't think it. You are not made to think it. But that's why I believe, can come to believe more than I believe in religion in a way, in simulation theory, that we are kind likely to believe, more than I believe in religion, in simulation theory, that we are a kind of computer game. It gives more meaning. And it's very nice to think that if you are going to make a choice that is a very difficult choice, you think that this choice I have made by someone else before, or that it's not up to me. It makes it a bit easier. I have a bit in my mind about the simulation theory. I've thought about it a bit. It's a joke, of course. But I've heard about it a few years ago. It's completely ridiculous.

And it can be true. Because in the best case, it's 50-50, you can't know that. And it's still in the best case 50-50, but there are many who claim that it's almost bigger, or at least 50-50. If we had been in a simulation, we would have been programmed not to see all the things that would have been revealed. And I believe in all the things you see on TikTok. You see a bird that is like, hey, there's a glitch in the Matrix. And the bird doesn't fly anywhere, just flacks on the same spot. But I think that in the same way as people through evolution, if you believe in that theory, have learned not to see the irrelevant things. irrelevant. It would be strange if we saw this table here, this massive table on a

level of atom or on a different frequency. I think if evolution hadn't just put us on that track of how we see the world, then we would have seen the world in a different way. Because the world is not how we see it through our eyes. It is very different. It is very frighteningly different. So in the same way, or not in the same way, but we would also have been programmed in a simulation to not see the things we shouldn't see.

To be in a way dumber. Yes. To be in a way more stupid. And not so... That the brain, just thinking about these thoughts, makes us physically bad. Because you can get dizzy and think too much about it. And when I've talked to friends about it, who maybe have never thought about these thoughts before we started talking about it, they also just get dizzy, that it's just something we're not meant to think about. No. Sounds like it.

And then there's another argument. We're not that far away now from being able to simulate another world. The only thing we lack is the brain and what consciousness is. Yes, we don't know what consciousness is, so that's the one we can't simulate. But we can simulate everything else in theory. So if we are able to do that, why hasn't anyone else done it with us? The main idea is that when we are so close to doing it, and say that if a civilization can be billions or at least hundreds of millions of years ahead of us, then there is no reason that they shouldn't have developed anything like that. And then we can be in the theory, and also be in a simulation, and we don't want to know.

If you had made a simulation, which I think is quite complex, and that it has been developed over some years, and it's not just like, now we've made this simulation and then we'll put it all together. It's quite more complex than that. But if you design the simulation, would you open up a way for them to come out or understand it? But it must be very difficult. Because now we have understood it. Yes, that's what we have.

We have actually understood it. Do you think they're sitting and looking at the bed like that? No. I can't believe it. Because if it's totally wrong for them, then it's a lot of people who are a bit jealous. I think they are looking at us and thinking like, no, they are not. They are like, what the hell is going on? Because if it's totally true for them, then it's many who are against it. Imagine if all those who have understood die and stuff. We don't have to talk about it, we don't have to understand it anymore. Because suddenly we are being pushed.

But those who die are the ones who understand it, but also have the burden to actually get the make people believe it too. This podcast is not big enough. It has a cannonball-crying fjolls. It's strange that Neil deGrasse Tyson still lives. Agreed. And Inger Strommke, who has been a tattoo artist for a long time. And Ilan Vest. It's him who made me think of it. Or is it true?

It's true. And then you're just going to say, no, we've been counting on it. There's no way that's true. It's not true. It's a smart tactic, if you're part of it. And it's different in different ways. As an authority in the field, and a member of the council, you say it exactly as it is, to get rid of it. Yes.

Right and simple. I would have done that. But where would I hide? Yes, oh. I don't think there is space, but you don't have to come there alone, right? No, then you have to buy a plane and just... But you have to have a lot of fuel to fly all the time. Don't you think that some people...

There is a lady who is carrying something with a plane and she's coming as far as possible. Direction Antarktis. Or you go somewhere where no one wants to look. Or it's the most disgusting scene. Mount Everest. No one risks their lives to... Yes, people do that when they talk about life and death. Don't people do that when they talk about life and death. Don't people do that? Yes.

It's clear. The scene where the lion was, he didn't have oxygen. But it's not difficult for many to just take... I've been at the top of Kilimanjaro. Maybe I could have been a dragon. You said that. A sidekick. Yes, it was very self-centered.

But many dragons did that, so it didn't work. It's not high enough, in a way. No, I think maybe that's a bit too... There are many, you know. And isn't there any alternative to go to a disgusting place either? You don't want to be there either? Do you want to have it a bit nice? Was it disgusting to be in a toilet? Yes, in a toilet. In a toilet in... Yes, as long as you survive there, then I could do that.

Yes, because it's five days. Five days only? I thought it was five months. You make a dress so you don't smell or get something disgusting on you. And then you find a really side-by-side toilet... I think I can handle some nasty things. You can. I don't know, but I've been to the farm and picked it out and donated, so I don't have that much experience. But you get used to all the nasty things.

What about the inside of a whale? You get eaten by it in the movies, so it just flies around. But I'm not fond of water when I'm scared of water. That's an incredibly bad way to put it. You take the water, and I take the toilet, I think. If you're scared of water, you shouldn't dive down to the bottom and get eaten by the water. I see that there is land in the water. There are a lot of places to be in the valley.

I think I should have a suit with as much oxygen as I need in the course of five days. And then I should just lie there like an idol, just breathe very economically and be in the valley for five days. But can you move around? Yes, within the valley. No, but is it like that? Do you have one home place? Or can you have a voting route like I had in Jemsil? Voting route? Yes. You just can't be found on the 5th of the day.

I go for the election. What do you do? I take the toilet. But a new outdoor toilet is everyday. Yes, and it's not like they don't know you're in an outdoor toilet, so they have to think, okay, maybe outdoor toilet, then we have to go through all outdoor toilets. Yes, just like in the whole world. Yes. No, it's not stupid. It's not stupid. And then... And then set up that...

And then write. Not in use sign. Go into an old page of your diary and write several times, like many years ago, Oh, my worst thoughts, and I hate it. Now I'm on the toilet again, I'm in the cabin, and I have to go out, and I hate the toilet. I have the worst way, and such things. And you have to write that you are difficult. Yes, and hate choices.

Yes. I do. I had an old... Hate choices? I had an old nightmare that has come back and forth. When I lie in the still, or in the water, and I feel something coming from below me. And I hear, and look down, and there is a blue whale that goes... Oh, but they are very cute. I think they are...

Are they cozy? I have such a huge respect for blue whales. Yes, yes. I don't know how to start. It's the world's biggest animal and it has been there in all... I still think that if it had eaten me, I would have just flown around there until I was slumped out in the other end. There are so many traumas I would have overcome if I had gone through that project.

What was my name? What am I talking about? I'm not going into the blue wall! You said blue wall, not me. I'm never going into the blue wall! I'm from Sandefjord and you know what the supporters call themselves? The blue walls. That's it. So I'm very fond of whales. Because you are a Sandefjord girl? Yes.

I'm very suspicious because they are very cute whales, they eat them and they call themselves the Blue Whales. Whale catchers, isn't that what they call themselves? Yes. Yes. I said that when I had a show with Sandefjord. Yes. That wherever you go, there are whales. Whales museum. There are whale teeth out on the beach. No matter how much you go, it's like a whale museum.

There are whale teeth out there. We have killed so many whales, we have killed so many... In all other places in Norway, it's incredibly stigmatized. You are everywhere. I was a bit surprised by that. I had a good formulation of it. They are very proud of it. At the same time, it 0-1 in the scoreboard.

It is not a matter of how much you are going to be screwed by how much you have chosen. Everywhere you are going to be screwed by the choice of killing. It is very fun. During my childhood I was on a ship that was caught by the choice of killing. Every year. And actually you didn't die? Or did you just look at a museum? Every year. And it actually took life? I saw it at a museum. Yes, it was a kind of museum. I don't think we have been hunting through it.

It would be useless to judge everyone who has been hunting through it. But... There is pride in it. In 2025, you push so hard on it. And viking... A little killing is fine, but you have to realize how much killing there has been. Here we have killed so much viking. That we call ourselves viking in the city.

I was caught in the car. Another thing we had at kindergarten was like, we had Viking games every year. I went to the Goxha kindergarten, and that is connected to Goxha sheep and Goxha heaven, where sheep are buried. So at Goxha heaven we had Viking games every year. And we went all in. I read that you rune the fleets. And we had a gloss test a We had a We had a We had a We had a We had a

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We had a We had a We had a We had a We had a But you have good language skills. Maybe in my background from Iran, even though I never spoke Iranian. Because you spoke Iranian in kindergarten? Before kindergarten, and then I switched. But that must help a lot, that you have two languages like that. Yes, that's true. I want you to hear another language around me. Yes, I think I help a lot. I have a lot of languages, you know. Really? I'm not good at it.

What kind of language did you have at school? German. I can't do anything. I'm going to say that I stopped German. I stormed out of class. What? Why? I banned it. I'm so bad at German that I don't remember it. Did you learn German? I went with one German classmate, who I was teaching, and I forgot the class. Why did you get so angry?

Because she was a fucking bitch. What's her name? Elna or something? Elna. Sounds like a German teacher. She was totally... No, we had such bad chemistry. And I think her pedagogy was so bad.

And we were so close. So I was kidding a bit. And she ended up making an ultimatum. Either you are completely quiet and respect this team. Or you go out and never come back. No, did she say that? Yes, something like that. It was an epic moment.

And then I said something in German that I don't remember. Or something like that. It wasn't that personal either. It's funny that you took the bandages in German. That was the last thing you said before you left. I don't know if I had bandages either. It was some kind the raw German sentences.

And then I left the class. I knocked on the door. And you never came back? I never came back. But I had to take it as a privateer. I struggled so damn much with it. I was so bad. I thought it was boring.

And doing it alone is even worse. One of my best friends was very smart and good in German, so he knew the language. He had gotten six years in all. So he learned it. And he also realized that he didn't get very good. I was going to take these exams anyway. So I took the written exam and realized that I was struggling. So I agreed and said, and as a hero, the hero I am, I take the exam monthly for you. Is that allowed? No, if it is allowed. It was very legal.

But it was a time when there were no strict requirements for music. It was just old people who sat there, and they looked so white on the music sheet. And the teacher hadn't seen you for a year, so you could change yourself. And the teacher wasn't there. This was a private thing. Oh, so handsome! So... Oh my God, what a friend! He risks his whole career for you.

Yes, for a friend. And then he left his ID at home, so he was a nameless person. He was an identity-less person. And then we said that if he is in the mood to be fired, in a way, then he should just run out. Then it's just me as the difference. Yes, because you still don't know what he's called. And I had done the written part. But I had only done one or two mandatory parts. I couldn't manage to get that done. I thought you'd be doing the written part and be a good writer and get sex on the script.

The worst thing I remember is that the writer was like, it's not good, but it's not fucking bad either. But then he made the whole thing. And then he comes in. This is your parents. We've talked about it. And then the examators and people say, Okay, Henrik, because you're thinking of me,

we have a problem here. And then he's in the firm, and the legs. So before he says, We have never experienced that someone is so extremely weak in the scripted part, but so incredibly good in the scripted part! We don't have the opportunity to let you stand here, but we can't let you be beaten with this scripted part. We have to give you a symbolic tour. So it was...

Sehautotisk. And I don't need more! I don't need anything more! Oh my god! That was very good. That was a very exciting story. What was the most edgy thing you have done in life? Edgy? Like in the illegal? Yes.

Oh, I... It was maybe a little unconscious there and then, because I was a little full. But... And this is not like me, I never do that. But I was out in the city of Sandefjord, was it? Killed a whale. Yes. On the fillet. Stole the boat when I was on my way home. And then we went home to a guy, who I dated a little at that time. And then we decided to go to a Nars game.

We were maybe three, no, we were three people. It sounded like I didn't remember much, but I do. And it has come more to consciousness in the after-effects. But then he says again, I drive and then it is very strange that I have not said, no, we don't take that car. Because I don't remember, this is true, I don't remember that part from when we left the house to what was going to happen, where the car crashed. Really bad. I don't remember what happened. I remember that I was... I hadn't taken my pizza. Were you behind the car? No, no. I was sitting behind. I don't remember who drove and didn't.

But I remember that I was sitting behind and I remember the pizza was outside the car. And the airbags had also gone out. I don't remember the very first blow, but I remember that one of them took a pizza piece and went back. And I said, you know what I say? I say, we'll take tomorrow. We go and sleep. And then we go and sleep, and then the police comes to the door, of course. Because there is a registration number on that car, and the neighbor has heard the bang outside a light pole. Is it TV3-programs, the world's worst criminal? Yes, a gang of idiots trying to drive to Nars. And then I said...

Because I had become a bit fond of him. I didn't have the ticket at that point. He had a car, he had to drive a lot. So it would be a shame if he would lose the ticket. A pizza-baker car with a pizza-baker on both sides. But I say that I drove the car. And I didn't have the ticket. Thank God for an explanation of love. I didn't have the papers, so I thought... Oh my God, what a love confession! Yes, and we weren't together, but I didn't understand what I was doing. No, no. But they didn't believe in me. You could have lost all the opportunities to be so honest.

Yes! But I thought that I probably wouldn't have the papers on anyone. Oh, so that's fine. But they didn't believe in me. So they called him in the next day alone. And they shouldn't have taken me in alone if they believed in me. But that's maybe what I've been through, which has been most illegal. Did you get the consequences of lying about that?

No. Actually not. I should have gotten that. Because they thought, damn, he's so cute. They thought he was just stupid and naive and in love. Even if you believe that way, even if it's a little naive and naive and in love. They should have gotten it. Yes, actually, you should get it. You're lying, it's very close. Yes. I think it's a little truth-telling in a way. The police also know people there. Not me, but...

It's just that he's the old... No, he wasn't a criminal. He's a little harsh. No, I think it's just like, young school friends, who are like... I can read you enough to see that it's you who's alive. It's you who should be said, it's me who drove the car. You? It wasn't that bad.

It wasn't? It's a bit crazy. I think it's a bit sweet. Yes, that's how it happens. It was nice to say that. It wasn't nice to say that? I was very pleased to talk to you. In the same way?

Now I'm going to pee. I noticed that. I've had a lot of coffee. It's very nice to talk to you. In the same way. Now I'm going to pee. I notice that very well. I've had a lot of coffee. And then we're going to do something. I'm moving so I don't really want to go home. Oh, like that. But you have to tighten up a bit to get this done.

But I don't want to. No, I'm just getting nice. And thanks to you at home who's listening and enjoying it. I have to remind you that these are the last three performances of my show. Oh, I want to come! It's in Bergen and Trondheim and Kristiansand. I'm coming! Maybe Kristiansand then? I'll drive.

No, it's now March 6th in Bergen. There are tickets again. There are people there. It's a bit slow. But then there are very few tickets again. March 7th in Trondheim and March 8th in Kristiansand. On Women's Day? Yes, it's just Women's Day.

Then you have to say something about that. I will do something about that, of course. And then you find tickets at henrikfladsett.no. Do you have anything you want to study? If you have one company at BIMINUS, maybe some of you can... If some of you need to have a conference. No, listen to Høvla too. Yes, Høvla.

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