Fladseth - #232 - Martin Beyer-Olsen
Episode Date: June 6, 2025Humor over Oslo 14 juni. Stedet man skal være!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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We are going to warm up the guest a bit, because when the first funny point comes, we will put it in. It came with a hoagny script.
That you will get it.
Is that allowed anymore? It is not.
It is like buying an old fur that already exists.
I agree. You must not have used it.
But with the hoagny tree, you know what it is.
Is it your own tree? It's my own tree.
An excreting tree?
Yes.
It's heavy and it's brown.
It's heavy and brown.
Mahogany… Mahogany in a desk is… as I understand it… I think it's more or less that I have known Mahogany through Anchorman.
Is that where they have made a number that is the best in writing?
Ron Burgundy's writing?
I don't think it's the first time when it comes to the Komi movie.
I think it's been used so many times that it's clear enough for people.
But we're talking about that too.
We're thinking of a new solo show.
And then you have to start working more. I'm a on a new solo show, and then I have to start working more.
I'm a workaholic, so I find it difficult to sit in the clock for hours when it comes to writing.
I really have to say that.
And I think I've had the pleasure of having an office I've been thinking about for a long time.
And then I have to get out of this office and get a Mahog a small desk that is in the middle of the room.
Important. You don't have to stand in it now.
No. Do you have to look at the door or away from the door so that when people come in you have your back to yourself?
That depends on the view.
Yes.
And for the other, you shouldn't have people in there.
No.
Because you don't have a secretariat outside that shows people in.
No.
Or do you?
I can get one too.
It would have been a big project, of course.
I have to rent a place.
I have to have one room.
I have to have a room for it.
And one on a year's worth out there.
Otherwise it would be part time.
No, it can't be part time.
That's what I mean by ambitions.
You have to... I don't know ambitions. I don't know about you, but what are your ambitions with stand-up?
It's flowing, it comes and goes.
Ambition is always to do something better.
Ambition is never to get too old to do it. And then it's too mega to hang with the swings.
Know what's happening.
And then I notice when I'm not there, I miss that a little.
And by the way, we have gone to the hook.
Anders, my nephew, has a working week now.
He won't notice much if we need him.
He works in Flatoset Invest, A.S. today and on Friday.
And he will learn a little about showbiz and day to day work.
And if we need some coffee, it's his turn today.
He is flying on the wall now. This is art in the making, this is the business.
This is how it is. He just gets to see and observe. This is how it is to make a podcast.
He picked him up at the bus stop here somewhere.
He is in here, we have been warming talking a bit, playing games, watching some TikTok stuff, and some billiards that got destroyed there, and lost some of that.
After that, it's time for a production company to get a shirt.
A shirt that I forgot to connect to a production company, we both share a key.
And then it's time for a trip to Sats.
To train. He is going to be... Is he going to train or are you going to train? We both agreed. And then it's time for the training.
The trainer is going to be…
Is he going to train or are you going to train?
We are both going to train.
And it's also part of…
It's my job to keep the machinery running,
so that I can stand on stage for an hour and a half.
You're thinking of a Mick Jagger, Bruce Springsteen,
for this building. Yes Yes, that is important.
What are you training now? Are you strong or running?
Everything. I have worked hard to get everything in in a week.
I try to train the whole body, and the lungs and the heart.
What about yourself? Is everything going well? Yes.
Do you think you look good? and the lungs and the heart. What about yourself? Is everything going well?
Thanks, I'm in a pretty good period now.
I train slavishly twice a week.
Heavy strength.
You train slavishly twice a week?
I have fixed times.
I'm not more than that.
It's fun. How do you train?
Slavishly, because I carry a bucket of frozen water.
And not to mention when you built the pyramid, I thought.
That you carry a pole with a block of stone.
But Slavic training, I think.
It's a bit like Drago in Rocky IV.
A bit like Slavic, Soviet way of training.
Just stop.
I totally agree. That's the best of course.
But you don't agree with the time limit.
You're training Slavic.
You can of course work 14 hours a day with block carrying and water collection. And you never stop. You don't get lunch. No. with the that it is so important. Yes, if it is important. And maybe you should put on the carpet and start thinking
actively around it. What is my natural experience today?
Is it just a walk for 30 minutes and done?
Or am I going to that water and sit there?
Or that forest?
I think, does the day of nature have to be in the middle of Skäven?
Or can it be something like, now I have see something, I have to go to the start of a residential area there, and then maybe work a little in Skäven,
for example, experience new places. There is nature in the middle of the building as well.
There are many cities in Oslo that have not been, right? Today it is the after-life.
The after-life. A half hour after-life. And that I have also learned to be a tourist in my own city. You have to be there once a month.
So that, maybe that is our next hangout. We will take a day in the future.
It's a short way from such a type of tradition to becoming a kind of city original.
You can quickly get the hang of it and you get better and better.
He is a showbiz legend, who is called Showbiz Wiz, who is Andreas Diesen from NRK.
He is 80 years old now. He has this thing called flannering, where he spank...
I don't know what's the difference between spankulering and flannering.
He travels around on his way, which is often now shorter
and shorter, probably because of age and such, but he has traveled a lot to talk to people,
meet people and take pictures together, if he meets colleagues and such things,
if he has a picture today, I met him like that. I think that sounds like a beautiful
everyday activity, from now until you die. Yes, of course.
He was the leader in the review team at the beginning, can I agree?
I don't know if he was the leader, but he has at least been in something.
Yes, because he was… we had asked for some resources when we had a review,
called Legendary, with the old Christian in Abel Gøymakeri. And then I sent a request to get the support of the review.
And then I met him personally before I had this granka bingo
on Sandalshaven.
I was touching something damn, but now it's gone sour.
And there he was!
There he was!
He wasn't on the review we got support. But up there, I remember, he was! He wasn't on the stage, the one we got to support.
But up there, I remember he came in and said hi.
I remember the gesture. But I have to get old, you know.
I can't do that. But I think I have to. I'm going to be a goalkeeper now.
Yes, you are.
Now the way to golf is what is called a green card before.
Has it become easier?
No.
I think it has become a little easier.
I think it has become a little easier.
But it is something damn cool to learn.
I am a little curious about it.
I have not thought I would start with it, but I am a little curious since everyone who starts with it becomes real.
Anders has started playing golf.
Is it red?
Yes.
Yes, of course.
It's damn fun.
Fun for young and for old.
Yes.
But then, where the average is on the course, then you have to go out on one or the other
green.
All golf clubs have VTG.
VTG.
Way to golf.
Way to golf.
Yes.
Why cut?
A green card with VTG, the way to the golf course.
I've never heard of this.
Maybe it sounds more in-depth.
The way to the golf course helps you.
You have to get in and perform at the same time.
Yes, but it's just the green card, plus the green card.
And they will get a pass in the US.
That's the political charge of the green card.
Yes, that's true.
There are limits for many who can play golf.
The more people who start with it, the more the prices will be pressed up to be able to
walk on the track.
Here the capitalists have bitten themselves in the ass, because they want to have a little
like an exclusive club.
Now it has become popular and the value is decreasing.
So then the only thing that matters is that the prices have to go up.
And there is a club in Snarøya or Nesøya,
200 000 a year or something like that.
Yes, because you have, of course, clubs that are pigs.
The working class is not close enough,
they can't stand on the outside all the time.
And then the potentials just get more and more.
And then just two good tracks in Oslo.
Very fun, I think. There was someone who had something like that,
and has seen some clips sporadically.
Someone who went into the bushes at very exclusive golf clubs,
with two horns, and in what they were supposed to hit.
Simple humor, but damn fun.
That's how it should be!
The working class complains a little bit.
It's probably the best satire you have about it.
I think so, we'll have to take it back.
Golf is going to be the old golf game.
And then I'm going to be the old one in darts.
And then I'm going to be the old one in botscha.
In botscha?
Yes, I haven't started it yet. I will start with taking the ball first.
Borscht is not something like that.
You don't have to take the road to Borscht.
You just have to live for 70 years first.
I think the most pleasant thing about France is that they have an active Borscht environment.
That is the people's sport.
And not to mention the friendship city of Paris, Copenhagen.
Is that it?
Living Borscha-environment.
Is that it?
Yes.
Living Borscha-environment in Tivoli.
There is a big Borscha arena there.
And there are even tournaments and a really good atmosphere.
I will probably mention that away. Golf, Boccia, Dart, wine, I will also get better at.
I have that on my block. You have been on this journey.
Yes, that is something to take away. But I have gained some interest.
A few bottles of bottles at the warehouse now.
I got... Yes, I have them at the warehouse.
It's...
My brother and his father...
I talked about secretary, that's why I mentioned Anders who has a working week.
It would be cheap labor to go for Anders as secretary,
but that must be up. but we have to be skilled.
It's our own thing.
We have to sit on the pipes, have phones, keep things in order.
I would have a B.I. or NHH education in the precinct, because it's a sales job.
It's income- output sales work.
But the secretary is in charge of booking and everything?
Yes, it is handling income bookings.
Or do you have your own office?
Yes, I do.
There are several that run an agency and work.
That goes very well.
And also something that helps with the economy.
This is only, I think it's only a meeting company,
but also just sit and meet.
That is a full-time job by itself.
No, but it is, I think I'm not going to talk too much.
I'm going to start with just having an office,
and then I have, I rent a room,
with the possibility of a front room.
So I can put on that if it gets too crowded. But I don't stay in one room, but I can get a room in the front. So I can put on that if there is too much pressure.
But don't you agree that having a parody at an office makes you humorous in what you do?
I support that a lot.
And just because it does something with us and Markets. Have you seen the office? He has a flamingo on three meters in the corner.
There can be so much stuff there. Or he has a shipping office.
It costed four million and so on.
Then you can have billboards, you can have a list of prices.
Just a reminder that this is it. this is what you do.
We are talking about motivation, right?
It's like living life and wandering around, right?
But having daily reminders like this is what you are working for now.
We have several of these prizes here.
Or nominations. Do you do the nomination after some other nominations?
That's what I think the office that Ricky office that Rick and Steve Merchant have.
What is it when they get visitors? It's not an extra sale.
It's Life's Too Short.
Yes, maybe that one.
Everything from Johnny Depp to all the others.
Lim Nisen comes in.
Sit there, have a little walk,
give out some ideas, take lunch, done.
Yes, totally agree. And to have a book, or maybe, you can read like in books,
but if you have one on visit, that you can control a bit more,
you can go and pull out a book, throw it away, you can borrow it. Let's see where is that one.
It's about having a creative career.
Having some skills. I have seen it a bit like Jerry Seinfeld has a thing called Don't Break the Chain.
I tried it out, it was actually pretty good.
You never have to work, you have to write.
Just write for two hours. When you have done that, you can put a cross in the calendar.
And then you always have to do it every day.
It doesn't matter, just start writing. You don't have to have a clear idea.
My best creative period was like this.
And never came back to it.
There is something about it.
I have been involved in this for a while.
Because I left the podcast
and listened to the podcast
and took off my headset.
I started with it
after reading a book
that inspired me.
It took some time, but then I started to get into the so-called thought flow.
You start to associate, you start to get a bunch of thoughts that you have introduced into something big.
And it takes some time to get into it, because the mind has to get some time on its own.
But then it would have taken half an hour, I was playing with Visha, throwing the ball, and then only me and behind me came a loop on a one wheeler around a dirt hill.
And that was a sign from the universe. It's not often I talk about signs from the universe, but I felt it. He became the focus god for me. He would be like Steve Jobs,
over the peice on the counter.
Erlen Loh would be.
Focus god.
I have also seen him the last year.
If that was the same sign,
that everyone in our industry, when they see Erlen Loh on a bicycle,
that is the sign. Start working.
Erlen Lo now?
It's you in 5 years.
He's not only driving from A to O on a one wheel bike, he also has his own...
He trains.
He's in places and he works on technique.
Everything is about one wheel bikes.
He didn't write a book.
He didn't write a book for 5 years.
10 years? How long has this new book been out?
Do we know that?
The last thing I've read of him is Vem Rumpa Brunåsten, a children's book.
He writes about the left.
I think he's over-exaggerated. I think has reached the level where he can do whatever he wants.
He has a deal, a damn good deal with the company, and then he just overset it from Danish to Norwegian and then it's okay.
The Democratic superstar Pete Buttigieg, have you heard of him?
No.
He was such a fan of Ellen Lowe, and he had only one book that was published in English.
So he learned Norwegian to read Erlen Loh.
Yes, I've heard that.
I haven't heard that since.
Such a fan of Sub Ipsen, who has learned Norwegian to read Ipsen.
But imagine how fun it is to discover Norwegian via Erlen Loh.
Short, rare situations about Elg.
It's a beautiful universe to meet Norway in. It's a good outlook for Norwegian
rarity.
I'm not necessarily a fan of sound books, but if you want to hear some sound books,
you can hear Alois' own. He's reading it himself. That is actually incredible. It is really great.
Is it locked? Where is it? Where should it be?
He has done his thing. And now it is...
It is a one wheel bike, 100% of the time.
What I understood with it was that a one wheel bike is a means of arrival,
but it requires that you are 100% in the now.
Because you can't just do something else while cycling, you can almost do that.
But you are 100% in it, so you get this enormous focus.
So it's a kind of meditation, meditation as I believe.
And of course, motor as well, insanely good.
I had to learn the solo wheel, which is like the segway, just with one wheel.
Then I remember when I started to get a little good, or thought I was good, and then I just let it go. Then it's gone. So you have to have that 100% focus.
And such exercises, I need more. So maybe I'll learn the next one.
I don't want to learn it, but maybe I have to.
It's many years, so it's eight years of training.
Then you can choose between a sushi cup or a one-year course.
Is it a myth that it's eight years of and I am responsible for becoming a sushi chef?
Where does that come from?
I don't know where people are. Is it a school for you or do you have to be with a master?
I think it is. If you are really going to call yourself a real super star sushi chef,
then you have to go to one of the old sushi koks in some place in Japan and just…
It's not just about breaking up a negiri, you have to have something, almost a
shape to finish this thing.
That's right, you can. There are two ways to go into that Japanese style, it's like, oh you have used two years on this omelette, and you have only made that, and now you are perfect.
You can either respect it, or you can just die.
That's fine. That omelette was okay. Day three and that.
So it's like, I'm a little divided, because I like the craftsmanship, but there is some bullshit in the mouth.
There must be limits too.
Yes, there must be limits.
No, I just don't want to be so good at things.
Like our fellow friend Fredrik Kvaløy, he is the kind of person who can do that.
I respect that, but I don't want to.
I make stews.
I like the chemistry in the food making.
That I'm just working these things together and become a nice stew.
But the perfection of the stew, when it's just going to be in the pan like that. and become a nice boy. But to keep on perfecting the staking,
when it's just going to be lying there in the pan,
it takes so much planning.
I can do it, but it's a bit of a struggle.
You have to have a limit.
We're going to take a little break, because I have to pee.
I don't want to keep on controlling.
So, see you soon.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Okay, okay, okay, okay. The a day full of humor, sun and joy. Grefsenkollen in Oslo. Are you an Oslo person? Are you from Jesheim or Moss or Fredrikstad?
Then it's just taking the train. A couple from Raksstad will take the tour now.
I hope so.
It's just a festival with humour. Humour music probably has no humour-sensors like us. humorous as we are? Yes, we have, there is music there too.
But we give the trial on the 4th year with humor in Oslo.
And it is not given that this will go, it goes to the lottery with the ticket selection this year.
And is it because it was raining last year?
We had sun for 3 years, no 2 years, it rained 1 year. This year it will raining last year. We had sun for three years. No, two years.
It rained one year.
This year it will be sunny again.
But it is, as you say,
as simple as a day of joy.
Humor and joy.
It's fantastic.
And then it's...
It starts with the first show.
It starts at three.
And then it goes to a bank drive until midnight.
And then you stop for a second, because there is a neighbour who has...
There is no way to have anything different in a way.
And I remember when I was... a couple of years ago, when I was last at the headliner,
the whole festival was closed, people have been a bit hesitant before me.
And then you would have also included a DJ set,
because you would of course have the last word in the case.
So then I had... It was so loud that it counted.
So I was eaten up by it. It was three mutes.
So I just had to run through a bit, which was nice.
And then I had to give in for a second.
My voice was cut off.
And it is extremely provocative to relate to such rules.
And I'm as pissed off at those who control it every year with that thing.
But give us a curve. Then we have to do it differently. So it's an ongoing war between the clock and us in the humor industry, which is a little less on time.
A little less.
Yes, but don't you think there is one of the bad points, Delia, who is sitting with the number to the police ready?
Oh yes, 100%.
It's just that.
Maybe the guests will just think that they will be out time, so you start calling before 12 o'clock.
So the phone is on 12 00, and if they take the phone 12 00 01, then it's in there.
And the police station just says, hello? Are you there? Do you have anything to report?
Or is it quite serious if you call the police and say, I have mail in.
And then it's gone.
There I have mail in.
There I have mail in.
You hear it yourself.
Do you hear it?
Is it like karaoke or?
No, not on the main stage.
It's more DJ set, but it's karaoke, I think, another place.
Because now there are screens on all stages.
It's like that, if you want to have a festival, you have to be led, no matter where you turn.
So it's more led than the stages.
And that's not free either?
And that's not free either?
No, no, no.
So we bet on going to 0. Yes, but it's a huge day. And of course you are the festival boss on Elbakka.
But I can say that I recommend you completely my heart.
And now we have talked about it with Morten here as well. We are talking about it with Martin, and it is because it is very important that people understand that this is a place to go.
It is a place to be. There is no doubt about it.
I look forward to it. And we make adjustments every year, right?
So just meet up June 14th. Humor over Oslo.
June 14th, Humor over Oslo. June 14th, tickets are out.
Yes, yes, yes.
Of course.
Give away the prize.
A couple of hundred, yes, a couple of hundred crowns is it.
Or if we almost say, we are almost up to seven.
Yes, but it's 790 crowns or something like that.
And a music festival one day now, you don't get a fucking hundred and fifteen hundred.
No, a net sale.
Yes, it's a red sale.
It's a red sale.
We are going into the Spalte. And we are going into the future now.
It's a technology field that has been with me for many years.
Just to hear how we are doing in technology, it's exciting that you are interested in it.
Have you heard about these... I know there was some Snapchat glasses and stuff like that a few years ago.
It became legal. But now some new ones have come.
What is Meta's?
There is some collaboration between some glasses producer and some Meta stuff.
And that is... that is the most... what should I say it, black mirror-ish.
I can imagine.
That I don't have to worry about that.
That I can walk around with glasses or lenses and film the whole world.
Not just one person, but the whole world at the same time.
That everything is filmed and stored for a certain time.
And if you think about it for a few years, with some AI and some synergy on it, some symbiosis there, what can be expected then? What is certain is that we have to use nuclear power soon, just because of the energy that is required to make all this.
And you see that Moscow has made a hell of a drive in... where is it?
Minneapolis, Minnesota, somewhere that just spills out energy, that has to keep his stuff going.
And that's just one tiny factory with servers, right?
So it's just where the servers are supposed to be located.
We have to occupy the moon and just make this a server space.
But that's what I'm thinking about, where are we supposed to get all the energy?
Because since AI takes so much energy.
Yes, but there it is in a way...
I saw the good old Fredriksen, John Fredriksen was out and reported that the West is done.
The West is done. Now there are some new tax rules in Lombardy as well.
Now we're moving to Saudi Arabia.
And we're like, damn it, stop complaining, let me have my money.
But he has lost a point as well, because when we talk about energy,
look at the sides, Sahara islands are full of solar panels,
and they will certainly get enough green energy to drive the whole of Suricid.
Does it?
Yes, I believe so.
I'm not completely sure about the energy balance here, but where did I hear that they had built
something like that?
It was in China, right?
A car factory that is bigger than... Who said that?
I picked up a place in a podcast bigger than San Francisco.
I picked up a podcast somewhere in England.
Bigger than San Francisco?
Is that true?
When did I hear that?
A car factory bigger than San Francisco?
No, no, no, it will be too stupid.
So that's what's happening over there.
We don't understand what they're doing.
But I also think it's quite exciting, because now the US is out, and China is, we are very China-friendly now.
But then there's the little bird that always doesn't forget that it's the worst dictatorship they have.
Have you thought about that?
How bad is it? Have you thought about that? Where are the teachers? That's a good question!
Because they have a car factory bigger than San Francisco,
and have solar cells that can take all the energy.
But they kill all the Uyghurs and keep them.
Again, these glasses, back to them,
they see everyone every time, and everyone sees everyone,
and everyone can report everyone if they don't do anything. Who are these U people? I haven't seen any ugly people in my life. Is it because everyone is in prison?
Yes, I think so. At least the documentaries I've seen. Everyone is gone now.
Yes.
It's just the control and my experience with that, where I was in Japan in March and lived in a hotel that was a fucking good service,
until they know a little too much about me and start following me and saying,
before I actually know it myself, they have things that I have made a mistake, a booking at a restaurant,
yes, for breakfast, and then I thought, I was actually a bit drunk, so I don't go for breakfast,
but then they have set the date, first they call twice, and I am so white, the first time I don't take it,
they call again, so I'm going to take a trip after that, then they stop me. There are quite a few things like that.
And after that, a running out in the street came after me, who was a completely different employee,
who had stood in another place and said, you have forgotten breakfast.
And then I started to get a matter of time, of course.
I thought that you would say that they would just come and say
Excuse me, you didn't book?
You didn't book F.L.E.?
But Edding is a car manufacturer, as I remember.
Or have I dreamed?
I haven't dreamed it!
But I mean, that is Edig, and there is a lot of work force, and a lot of jobs and such.
But all the workers are going in and are being scanned from hell.
Face scans and get plus and minus points if you work well or badly. Things like that.
So it's all 1984 stuff of course.
It's probably the best...
I read that book again in 1984.
Fantastic book.
And that is...
If they hit something, it was that control there,
which you see in social social regime in China,
that you have justly introduced points systems, where you are being overwhelmed every time.
Of course, it is easier in China to go under the radar than it is in 1984,
because when you get so far, it is not like big brother is always there. And if you hide in the closet, it goes to a certain extent, but after a while it leaks out.
We understand that he is too much in the closet.
We have to put in an extra camera there and just...
Because that's also like if you try to go analog, and not be on any social media,
then they pick up that too, And then you suddenly become an outsider.
That makes you disqualify yourself for having fast internet, for example.
That's what they punish you with, right?
Then you don't need fast internet if you are analogue.
You have different degrees of punishment there.
If you make small differences,
which are not bookish,
you don't book the TV, you need internet. If you make small differences, which are not I have struggled with Sina, because I can't talk much about it, of course, but I feel on one side that they are both polite and friendly and work.
In Shingpi, they work as a kind of teacher, as a pretty jovial and easygoing type. I don't think everything is so bad.
But how much do you know about China? No, very little.
But it's...
It's possible that we have bought up all of Africa.
All ports, all ports around.
It seems like a well-known project in Africa, but the goal, the goal is so long-term and so totalitarian, that...
You should probably react.
But we don't react anymore. That's the main problem.
You and I don't react enough. And just look at Gazating. We don't react enough.
There is new Holocaust ahead of us.
I know.
So it's just that humiliation.
I can't say anything about it.
I would like to go to Shanghai.
Yes, I would like to.
It's my next destination, Shanghai. Or Taiwan.
It's scary, of course, that you have Russia, China, and then USA, or the West, who want, who think that their thing is what matters.
And it's a kind of imperialistic, world-wide, stupid motivation that is at stake there.
And they work and they compete there.
And if China gets a lot of overtakes in the time we live in, with robotics and AI, then it can be a fast food.
The new month race is the AI race.
The US has proposed the big beautiful bill that Donald Trump has tried to get through.
You have quickly gone through it. It is the enormous tax benefits to the billionaires and large companies and such things.
Where they also have some AI rules that make them...
Then you are not allowed to make some regulations on AI for 10 years in the future.
There is a clause, this is untouchable. If you get through it, AI is untouchable for 10 years in the future. It's like a clause, this is untouchable.
If you get one of them, AI is untouchable for 10 years.
Right?
So it's just like, okay, that's the US angle on it.
But Sina is actually working now, like the communists have always done.
Working without radar, and then we'll see if it works out.
Yes, yes.
But it's...
It's fascinating how things are turning, right?
Because you look at, for example,
I thought about this the other day,
that right now Germany seems like a very solid, safe haven for us, rational, a rising power in Europe.
But they have a bad history, they had WWI, WWII, and then it becomes a no.
After WWI, you should not have any military, you can have a couple of guards there,
but you are not allowed to build a military.
And then it was so damn clear. And then the other way around, now it's enough!
You absolutely should not build a military. And it has been like that day by day.
But now it's enough. Now they have to get up and it will happen within a four year period. Because the trust with Russia is like that.
And then we know with Trump and such that it's regimes, or who sits with the power, can change quickly.
So the fact that Germany today seems calm, then it's the ADF and something like that lurking in the background.
And the USA, who is very proud of the F,
and then they have built up military, and then there are two fascist powers,
which then suddenly can be a threat to us.
What is it, Russia, which is the one who is to be allied then, or what?
So, that's how it goes.
It's just to be open.
You have to be in Sweden, just keep the borders open for everyone. Let them drive through.
Let them drive through, yes. No, that is... I hope it will be okay. No, but it is... I will take double, right?
That one, like the last one. I have always been tech-optimist and actually I really a fan of the idea of being a cyborg.
I can have the same idea, the same project.
It requires enormous resources.
To be able to live forever or to change bodies is something that Lars has done.
Rutvilsson can do it today.
Put on a robot arm and think about how to grab it better and to heal your hand. So it's okay already today. Put on a robot arm and then you can think about how to grip it. It's better to grip the other one and be healthy. So that's fine already today.
But what is foreign to the mind, you just have to get one robot finger.
One of the fingers is a robot finger, so you can use it as a kind of, what is it called,
Leatherman? Yes, yes, yes. That's the doctor with the
inspector gadget. Yes. He has it.
100%. And not least, to change everything inside that stops all heart attacks,
everything, just so that machinery goes. I think we have to experience that. I think we should hug our parents.
That's the main motivation to get a lot of money. It's just to change. I thought The heart is a hybrid of flesh and blood and aluminum.
Aluminum, titanium.
Titanium.
Teflon and titanium.
But it is just to change the way the whole…
The legs are smoking fast, you know.
They are already tired and tired and stuff.
But to just change out the whole drive.
I've been talking about that for many years.
Why not?
You can do that. It probably costs a million crowns, right?
Yes, but is that that much?
That's just saving.
You have to get yourself an account and then you have to work.
That's when you have Don't Break the Chain.
What does titanium cost?
Oh yes, 1.2.
Go for it.
You use your wealth of showbiz necessarily, but that's for the first million.
And then you have to go into...
This is a safe deposit.
But that's it.
And then there is the other aspect of it, which is to get the brain to be charged up, so that the physicality lives forever.
Yes, that is insane.
And you are talking about that too, that it is going on in a way.
Yes, and I am a tech optimist, I think it will come.
I think that is quite far away from charging up the brain, right?
Yes, it will be a kind of variant.
What do we do then?
That is what I am working on.
But what we have discussed in our podcast is the ethical question.
What do you want to die?
Is it good to have an end to it all. You don't want to live forever. You misunderstand. You are not caught in eternity.
Because that is terrible. Nobody wants to see that.
But you can choose yourself when you want to say thank you.
And that is... It's cruel if you are a little over 100 years old and then you are done.
I don't know. Let's see what happens.
It's exciting because if you say, okay, you'll be 100.
And then you have chosen to...
I am charged up and the consciousness lives on, so I manage to follow along on things.
Then you live another 100 years, and then you have to live from 1800 to 2000.
It's a lot of fun that you get to be involved in a lot of things.
But one thing that can happen is that you get that consciousness on the consciousness we have, you know?
It will just...
That will be too... I don't understand that. And then you are just there and can see the reality.
Who is that? Is it you or is it...?
Yes, it is the way we experience it now.
It is just electric signals that strengthen and create memories.
And then you have the setting we have built up now, as real people.
And then you just look further and say, oh yes, now your grandchildren have had children.
You are among, say, four generations.
So I guess you get pretty tired of it too.
Now you have seen a little. Oh yes, now the flying cars came.
Yes, yes, yes, we were talking about this 300 years ago.
You're just sitting there, new civilization found in space.
Yes, yes, oh my God. call me when you have something new.
It's the third one.
And then you take the report.
You know what? Now I have seen it the most.
I don't care.
We have been confirmed that there are
parallel universes.
And we are like, ok, I know where I am.
No, we are done.
We are done.
It's going in a loop. We were in Black Mirror, which is some episodes very good, some are average, but I still follow.
There is, what is the name of the series captain there?
Is it Greg or Daniel or Dan? I don't remember.
He is very much into this concept,
a kind of simulation,
where you can load up your consciousness.
And then some ethical questions are reported,
but also problems around this.
If you load your consciousness, so that your consciousness can be caught in a simulation that never stops,
then it will be the ultimate hell.
Yes.
That is one of the most famous episodes that comes as a successor in the new season.
And this is happening?
Yes, this tech company that… I remember, it's a kind of space ship and stuff. And he is one of the partners of the big think tank.
He is the one who is just talking and being a bit of a boss.
He is so bitter and he collects spit from those he doesn't like in the company.
Then he puts them all in this simulation, so they are under his control on a spaceship that is a player.
And then he is finally caught in his own simulation, with his own consciousness, and
then he is caught there for eternity. So then's a question of how it will look in practice.
So it could be a solution to that.
Things like that would open up with that thing.
It's insane.
And what we have now are these nostalgia rooms at older homes.
Which are integrated from the fifties.
So that those who live there now remember their childhood.
I support that 100%.
As a positive thing.
But if it is digital,
and you experience it every day,
would you then be able to reset every day?
Or would you then, as you say,
just go through and through again,
and go out and do what you're doing?
That's hell,
but if you reset every day,
then it's the Matrix,
and the best days of your life.
That's true.
If you reset, or if you always every day, or say that you can be
you can be about 10 years in a historical period.
Or just a scenario you have yourself.
Or if it is auto-generated, then it's great.
But you are just like Granolg Day, just a new experience.
That's not stupid at all. That's what I could like.
It's better not to have anything.
Or are you tired of it?
Are you tired of it?
What historical time would you...
We talked about the previous episode with Frederik Sjåstadnes.
That maybe you would have thought about the one about Caesar Augustus after Caesar's death.
Around year 0 and a little bit in over there.
And then we talk about that we have to get Jesus with us.
That it is said that it will be 34, but it can be fast that that is a bit wrong.
It's a shame to go into his 29 years, but no, he died when he was 27.
So that we go into year 2016, a year before the Are you one of those who think about the Roman Empire once a week? No, I'm not.
Not really?
No, but I have actually said that I will learn more about the Roman Empire.
I have taken some shipments here and there, but no and it shows that it explains the history of Rome via goals.
It starts with a goal, you always get a goal first, but what was the goal and what was the outlook in Rome?
And it's like that, like that, like that. It is a kind of gourmand's entrance to Rome.
Not a stupid idea for someone like you and me.
Who is happy with the goods of life, but also a bit of history.
Damn, I'm not... I started to... I like to do it properly the first time.
So I think I started with these Romulus and...
Romulus and Hercules.
Hercules?
Hercules. Romulus and Hercules. Hercules? Hercules, I said.
Romulus and Hercules.
There were two brothers there, right?
Two brothers there.
Yes.
Where one of them killed the other brother to get power.
I started with that.
It became more of a mythical story, I feel.
It's not historical.
No, it's just a joke.
I think it's almost just a joke. I think it was just a joke. And then I changed it a bit, because it became a bit too...
I thought I could like to be bullshit, but I was just going to jump a bit forward, you know.
Until they start to get some historical...
That it is a bit of a show-off.
Is the Rome series... I heard it was going to should be good? I never saw it.
I heard the security office, because they talked about this.
And there was an expert on Rome, who was in it, and he said it was very good and historically correct.
I got a very Hollywood vibe when I saw it many years ago.
But if you look away from that, there are a lot of historical
rules. But I want to be a guy who thinks about Romerike every day. And I will be.
And that's... Okay, I'll say Dart, Golf, Borsa and Romerike. Wine, Romerike. And then...
It's been for those five. There's a lot to be proud of.
It's a beautiful age.
I'm not going to say that I think of the Nazis and other world wars, and they do that every day.
But I often come back to that. And I'm not alone about that.
But that's what I'm becoming get my drone. It's that bunch there. How they... It's a shame to say it, but you see the documentary.
Almost, almost, disappointed every time it goes bad.
They come to you, damn.
But I think it's fascinating with how they... what happened there.
How they succeeded. It's about how you see them afterwards, what the story has shown us.
But how much optimism was there, how all the Germans were on this journey.
There you have motivational speakers.
There you have motivational speakers.
They were so damn loud and didn't scream that much.
I liked you.
Did you love me?
I saw a comment recently.
A kind of gay Swede.
Herman Fleissvik.
He was a god.
I heard that in Germany they didn't have good speakers.
No.
Really?
The ones who knew Hitler, the last one is on NRK.
There was someone who said that they didn't have good speakers over there.
And when he came with his rhetorical talent, they were very disappointed.
There is things there.
I'm going to start by saying one thing.
When we are in here, we haven't closed the nose-palm yet.
These drones that Ukraine used to bomb airfields,
completely destroyed of course, completely destroyed. So I read that it was a long process that took a few years to get through,
when the drones were smuggled into such a finished house,
a house that was just going to be packed in a way.
How were they stored in there? are they talking about Transformers?
I have seen that they were finished, but they were just there,
and could have been easily discovered.
Yes.
Had they just realized that they must have seen
that there are some hangers that are automated here,
Yes.
on those houses.
Because it was usually like containers, wasn't it?
Yes, it was probably that.
And I understand that they were probably just
hidden in there, but also think about
how rotten it would have been if they had...
You know Transformers, it was a complete
hell, when I was younger. But to smuggle in
what should just be a kind of
finished, packed house that should be built up close to itself.
It's not far from getting everything possible in flat-packed robots.
That sit on their own? Oh yes, that's probably going on.
To say that it looks like it's just a house, but it's some damn thing.
It's a Transformers robot that starts packing up and making Godzilla hell from inside.
As a trojan guest.
When you understand, there comes the side where you understand that we have a million drones that we can launch here and there.
Everyone has their own personal drone that will take you out.
Like, we're going to take out Norway. We need 5 million drones.
Yes, we have that.
You have the bigger plan. Or that one drone has 10.
I think one drone can easily have 10.
And the meat out of this is the rest.
There should not have any problems.
That's probably the most scary thing.
That's the drone swarm.
There's so much. It's almost time to end the boycott for the Excellency August in Kroken.
But where are you in ten, no, in fifty years?
What can you say about that? Can you understand? It is possible in the future, but you can start seeing some contours.
I think at least in 50 years, we have two generations to go. Or what you call people who have had children. The ones that are coming up now are much more friendly to...
or are more active in choosing away from technology.
As I have understood.
So if that is a trend that continues, it is like this.
It will split in a slightly larger way, like it like in the 70s.
Those who were against atoms, and had long hair and round glasses based on Russian writers,
we see a lot.
I see round glasses now.
Yes, of course.
So at least more round glasses than we see today.
Yes, I think there will be a lot of round glasses than we see today. I think it will come out a lot. I have said this for many years,
a little bit on the fool, but also a little bit on the not-fool,
that I had the Juna bomb right.
Have you read the Manifesto Hansen?
I mean, if you read the Manifesto of the Juna bombs,
I think I can just...
Because he was against technology?
He was against technology.
He was very against it.
He ran and killed people and was innocent.
But Manifested is not bad.
I think I can learn a lot from it.
And then in 50 years we are almost past 2063, which is also the year of Manifested.
Our own Juno Bomber has written, then. What is it? He has... It's 2063. There is something.
Yes, there is something. I do not remember. But the time of the manifesto is up to the assessment then.
Yes, but those who put the track in the annual number, they do not care, because they have never taken it right.
They can not be right on... They are not so right on people. Because they can not been right. They can't be right. They don't take people so right.
We can't be wrong.
We can predict.
We can't be wrong to say that year it will happen,
because Oddsens is so incredibly bad at hitting.
But what's interesting is that Norway belongs to an alliance or coalition in the world
that is completely unthinkable today.
Yes, right.
That we are a kind of northern passage with Finland, Russia, China and so on.
That it is just an East Wing. Are we an East Wing?
Or that it is divided into new alliances, like you have a collaboration here in the Nordic countries, you have Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland,
which maybe is more on Iceland, so it's not much, they are not more on the same...
Yes, they can contribute in their own way.
Strategically.
Yes, but then you share the responsibility, so Iceland you should not think too much, but you are the U-boats you become.
You are too easy. I don't think about much, but you are the ones who get the most. You get to laugh a little bit.
And then it gets, because then it is completely over with Germany and France.
And Germany, the ADF gang has taken France again.
So there is...
It's dark, it's dark.
I think maybe the only solution is that Scandinavia becomes one.
The north becomes one country.
Yes, a lot of exciting things are happening.
It's possible that you can hit something Baltic there as well.
We'll see, we'll see.
It's June 14th, the mood of Oslo.
Tickets, do you tickets that you can get?
I think a lot.
And anything else you want to say?
Yes, yes, we are allowed to study it now. We are there, it's in the Podimon.
And we are going on tour, we can study that.
That's it. We can do that. We call it an innovative thing that has not been done before.
We are sitting in a total of 10 shows in the course of a day.
In 5 of Norway's biggest cities.
It's like we're in the mood for how they actively try to kill you.
Because you are struggling so much.
You are not getting well. Get well because you are are going to do new, groundbreaking projects,
and take it to heart, like no one else has done in world history.
So I hope that in my degree, it doesn't depend on the good speakers,
that I become the new German, and not away with few good speakers.
All the speakers should be Steinbrad, you are one of them.
Yes, yes, yes.
No, but it's just... City Total.
City Total.
A huge title, of course.
City Total.
And then it will be...
A walking theater, right?
Yes, why not?
One of the shows is a walking theater, where Lars has a city tour in one of the cities we are in,
then it is not impossible that you find out some city originals that look like me, but are not me.
That's true.
That's the kind of theater.
And that's the biggest cities in Bergen?
Yes, it's Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim, Kristiansand and Tromsø.
Very good. It's great that you are here.
See you at Humor over Oslo.
Yes.
Thanks for listening and all that.
Stakis, thanks for taking the trip, Martin.
It's always nice.
I'm looking forward to talking to you.
Same here.
And thanks to you, Anders, for not doing a shit here now,
but now we're going to go get our shirts at the Oslo Games.
And we're going to train.
The day is starting now. If you're going to get somewhere, from the game and start training. The day has just begun.
If you are going to get somewhere, you can't just sit around.
We have to go out and get our shirts and get trained.
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