Fladseth - #233 - Morten Galåsen

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

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I say the highest I know. The highest. I could almost say the same thing, but that's not true. I'm in a small team. I could actually fill an 11-team football football with people I know who are taller than you. Not that I should do that now. Because you are tall, you have a society with tall people who are attracted to each other. Yes, because you are probably not tall enough to be in the one where you know each other with a little nick on the street.

No, I'm not. But we are nicknames to each other. But little nick on the street. No, I'm not. But we nick each other, we do. And we think we are the highest. I'm in the 192 landscape. That's what's the phase in a way. Because you are both tall, but not so embarrassing height for your own part. And we don't snuggle around that much.

It's not the violent tricks that come in your way. Speaking of tricks, you didn't have to address the technical problems. The listeners didn't know that before you said it, but it didn't just fall off. You just rubbed the microphone in new practice. I like to take the mic, I'm a stand-up comedian. I'm going to rattle it a little, it, it will be felt around my voice. And I didn't know that it was just one group. No, right?

That microphone. No, and you may not have a surgeon's support hand always. No. No. That's right. But let's not forget the high stuff here, because it is important to talk about it. We have a 92 team, we think we are the highest until we suddenly meet like you. It's you and Lars Berrum are the two highest, I think. Is that Vol up there? He is probably plus, minus two meters.

Nicker out again, a small Nicker, or at least a little bit, He's not completely up in the air. I recognize Magnus Devold. I actually get... And this is what we make some humor on in the fucking flad set. That we are alike and play the same role. Yes, there is a bit of... I hear... High snorlings. Yes, we are high snorlings.

And we are as ugly as Christmas, I think. High slaps that move us like idiots over there. And then, and then, here on the day, there were some young people as well, who were like, look, look, look, look. And you get that from time to time, I've been on TV and stuff. And then I get it right in the face. Magnus Deval! You were taken for being Magnus Deval? Other people came and said,

Magnus is down there. I can hear it all the time. Magnus Deval! Hey! People! It's Magnus Deval! And I got him before. The first time I got him was at a Voi store on the way to Latur. And there were some tourists,

open-minded tourists, who I heard while driving past, that one of them said, Hey, look, it's Magnus Devold! But it's nice. Is it nice? How is it for you to be confused constantly with Magnus Devold? It's totally fine. Magnus is a great guy. And we have... I don't see... I don't think there is a striking similarity.

But we are in the same category. And it's like... You become... You have that familiar thing... For Europeans, Asians are very similar. And so on and so forth. It's the same. It applies to us as well. For westerners, the comicals from the east are very similar, etc. It's the same, it also applies in a way.

For westerners, the comicals from the East are pretty similar. Yes. If you can take it as nice as that. You can say that white boys or boys with a dad live in Soli. I don't look at them differently. No, but it doesn't matter. No, it's exactly the same thing. I don't know if you follow or No, but it's not different. No, it's exactly the same thing. I don't know if you follow the Norwegian football of the day, but last summer Stabeck had a case where they had extended with two 16-year-olds.

And there was a picture of them. And it was like someone was making a caricature of how you look like you are from Bærum, on both sides. From top to toe. And the gods know who is who. It never said who was right or left, but it might not matter. There are many who can guess. When I was in football, the Russian brothers, Fabio and Raffael, played at United, both sides actually, were picked up. Where Raffael had a better career than his brother Fabio, but they were similar. And they often used this, and joked a lot about it of course.

And I think there are rumors that Ferguson used them in a way to have an extra change and do some manoeuvres, because they were so similar. Yes, it could be. And if you didn't do it, then God knows that he wanted to. Yes, if one is on the track, it looks like he's actually in the wardrobe for the show. And then he comes out in a fresh suit. Because you can't do that change regardless of the bench. And then people see that someone else is coming in. Yes.

Someone wanted to catch it up. Someone caught it it, yes. And I don't know exactly what was the technical reason, but they tried... I hope it happened. Yes, they were wondering. If it wasn't done in practice, they would have at least put the tank down. And it must have happened... What have I heard about?

That one... There was one who claimed for many years ago that the chairman was the brother of a big football star. And it shouldn't be enough to be bought by some club. It was like that, brother to, then there must be a certain talent here. But it's just a trick. It's many years ago, but it's the start of the 90s. You are a footballer, you have to be able to pull this off. But it shows that you were a football player once. But I think it's a type of story that is more extensive than we know.

That many either give up or even are in a relationship with someone. And less than that as a reason for being good enough now. This is not quite the same, but a little. Because you are almost old enough, you also remember a time before smart phones. And I was even old enough to go to town before smart phones. Yes, I was too. For hell's sake, I remember well. Right? So once I was a little unsure why it happened, but I used the following check-in tricks on a lady, let's say in 2007 or something.

So I say that I became number four in Villa Medusa. It's a real-life show. She couldn't check it, because she didn't have Google on her phone. She could bust me by asking just one question. Because again, I don't know why I used that example. I didn't know what show we were on. I don't know if there was a 4th place or if it was just a winner and a lot of others. Were you desperate? Were you ready? You just hit it out.

It felt like... It felt like the last desperate. I got 4th place in Villa Medusa. It wasn't early in the evening. It wasn't. Last hard-fought attempt. It wasn't early in the evening. Last attempt at a fight. I think Villa Medusa is so old that I didn't have the opportunity to be there. It's a bad maneuver. It didn't work either. One of the first realities that comes to the country? I think so.

Villa Medusa, you hear the concept, is a gang with... Before it became a celebrity reality. That's why you should have regular people. Yes, but before that you had entertainment groups. And then reality came, and influencers and blogs and such. And it was created in its own category, which are just just famous profiles, who are known to be known. But before we got that gang, ordinary people had to check in there. Unfortunately for everyone. No one wanted to see it. Thank God that we have got these celebrities today, who are throwing their glances over these programs.

Yes, it is probably half of the room here who have made a kind of career on this stage. Yes, it's the half of the room that has done a career in this game. You don't have to lie about being in the game you want to be in. You can say you have been in the game. I want to say that I came from stand-up, so I have a bad reputation in the game. What should I say? A craft in the bond. If someone would categorize you as one thing, then you are a comedian, right? Because now you are both a actor, a series creator, a reality-hater and so on. I think I am clearly a comedian. Since it is a legit thing to call myself, I would absolutely go for it. To put you in a bit, Morten Galaåsen,

what the hell are you going to do? You come in here, and I come out to cover the table, because you work a lot more than me in this house. Yes, and I even squeezed you out from one of the house podcasts. You have taken my role in Gangsterboden, so now I'm sitting close to Bayer Backer, with a simple talking podcast. And Jim has started to sneak in more. I came in after him. He started to sneak in again.

And soon I don't have this either. No, because when he gets involved, that's when Fladset Ryker and Galhåsen come in. That this podcast will be first by of the two shows that host the takeover. And you came in as a sidekick. So you have this one too. You have both fixed the water here and tested the sound. So it's the Gangster podcast. Where you and Jim talk about different gangsters around the world.

And I am the one just started this podcast. How did you manage to lose it? The problem is that I don't think there is anything interesting about gangs. But it's not the rawest thing I know. It's not the most interesting thing I know. Yes, it's a bit the opposite way. Because I thought it was interesting. But the more I do it, the more I get into the world.

Not to be a part of it, but to learn about it. I'm thinking about you. You are a very calm, orderly type, as we hear. We hear that, of course, when we talk about you. A softness and an orderly type in the bottom, we all hear that. But you can quickly turn on the five-ring and became the hardest ass we have in terms of aesthetics. It's a beauty, it's a beauty, it's a height, it's a fear-inducing. It could have been a fear-inducing. On my trips to Serbia, for example, I and travel a lot. Often to Eastern Europe. A lot of Eastern Europe. And very football related trips, you say?

Yes, I try to squeeze through a football game or five when I'm out traveling. You have the History podcast, the History podcast. And then you have Pyro and Pivo. It's a cool football podcast. Pivo. A cult football podcast. A kind of football podcast. And that's where the travels and the special football events and leagues come in. Okay, where were you? There. Now everyone knows what's going on. Go. No, it's nice. It's very nice that you talked to me like a nice guy after I tried to caress you a little. The truth is that I didn't really squeeze you out of Gangsterboden.

It was more that you suddenly became too important for Gangsterboden, and then Jimno and Vicarer needed you, and then I was the one you kept most often. I had a lot to do, and I enjoy myself very much. It's a very nice job to sit up and go through different people and stories every week, often more. We make many episodes. There is one a week, all year, both the history of Gangsterpådden and the history of the Second World War. So it's hectic now before the summer holidays. And it's almost an endless amount to take, you know, because it has been...

History we have always had history from, you know, from the Tres Jouves, but also from gangsters. It has almost been gangsters as long as it has been civilized society. Yes, and then it's a bit like, for example, when you started Gangsterpond, there were a lot of classics in the beginning, right? There was El Capone and stuff. But the more you work with the regular El Capone stories, the more spin-offs you find. For example, that he shot himself two times. I haven't seen that in the movies. But he was super close to Gunnar. But there aren't that many of those sharp kicks there, you know.

It's often painted with all kinds, shiny pictures. And of course when you make a film, you have to have the essential. You want to make it as effective as possible, right? But you never have... It has always been a thing I've always thought of in medieval movies and stuff. Or just fantasy-like... You know, classic Borgers, right? There are some royal or high up in Stråfolk who live in Borgers. Some damn big Borgers! And then maybe one character comes in, rid of a message, storms into those two big dead people who are going to be

pushed up there. And then often, one can say that it's fucking Prince Joffrey. Or one of those damn princes from the Middle Ages somewhere. We're going with Joffrey. Why Joffrey? Joffrey sits there. Sits in the stairs. And then he says, I have been expecting you. And then it was like, what are they doing all day? What are they doing? They are sitting around in the stairs.

And waiting. But if you are waiting so damn long, why didn't you open the door for the guests first? Why did it have to be blown through? Yes, but I don't think... I don't think... You have to say... Okay, maybe they say that I come around midday, and then I'm not on the second of it. So then you're lucky if you get it on the same day. But often it's like, okay, you're so lucky if someone says, I'm coming towards you, I'm there for a couple of years. And things like that. So you're just sitting there waiting and waiting and waiting.

And you're thinking and thinking and thinking. It's not like you can just sit on your phone. You can maybe play with a stone and bricks and sit by yourself, or play with your computer. And things like that. It's the limit of how much you want that too, right? You sit and think a lot. And it went on for so many years before the big ideas and revolutions came. So much thinking, so little progression on so much thinking. That's fascinating. It wasn't the time-times like Twitter and Reels and stuff like that.

And it's also like, let's say the Ottomans, for example, are marching from the fucking Turks to Vienna. And then they sit in Vienna and wait for them. And they have to wait for years. You don't march from Istanbul to Vienna in a couple of hours, or a couple of days for that matter. And when the Ottomans come and you're defending yourself, you deserve to lose.

Do you think, okay, we can't do anything better than this? We've done as well as we can. We'll wait a year. Not for the result we wanted. You have to work day and night to improve these defense lines, these bends. Yes, put rocks on the road and... There is so much you can do. That's one of mine. You are also...

You are a knowledgeable man. You have a lot of knowledge. Since you are sitting and... You are sitting and working with this all the fucking time. So I have to say that my biggest dream in life, without restrictions, is to lead the defense of a Borg. It is by far the biggest dream I have. It's a thing in the brain.

Yes, it's a thing in the brain. At least when you first define yourself as a comedian, you will be responsible for the game. What do you know about the fact that I have worked with defense in connection with tower defense games? So you know how to do this? I know how to do it. I enjoy strategy games a lot. Civilization is not a tower defense game in any way, but building good infrastructure. You have to think a little about what can happen if you are valued. Build smart, build between mountains, make it difficult and invade your city, it's clearly fun.

But it's on a macro level. But just that, what do the gunners have here? And I've started playing golf now, you can hit the ball and you have 100 meters, 115 meters, 200 meters marks, right? That's how you also worked with how to shoot the arrows. So you knew that when the enemy comes there, we shoot like this. Hit! Then you hit the mark. Such things. Imagine being the first to think that.

I've talked a lot about that. I've talked a lot about that. That you are called the pool boss. We just sit and wait. And we know exactly where we are going to meet. It's great! But think about when you watch the Gladiator movies. They start with... Let's keep the stones, as people have seen. They start with war scenes, and then you have the bowmen and some different things.

And you have a chain of command, you have Centurion and what it is now, everything. But something that does not come out in the movies is just what you are talking about now. One of these officers probably has only responsibility for the catapults, another only for sword fighting and so on. And there must be a clear rank of input on which responsibility you get, but what is the coolest? You have a sub-officer, what is it called? You have someone who has responsibility for the different departments, but if you are going to take the gladiator as a sign of what was right. Then he goes, Maximus Aurelius, what's his name again?

Something like that. His favorite, Russell Crowe there. He, General, he says in a way, it's he who puts everything into play. He just, arrows! And arrows come. Catapult! Catapult! He's the one who puts everything into action. He's like... ARROWS! And ARROWS comes. Catwalk! Catwalk! He's the one who...

Often he puts his hand down, like in rally and car racing. Flags down, his hand. Flags down! Then you go. Or his hand is up. We wait. We wait. Hold it! Hold it! Steady! Steady! Fire!

There is more yelling in this podcast than what I am used to with Jim. Yes, there is. It can be a bit... It is often cut off when you have a podcast with Jim. You have probably experienced that too. I like to scream, Jonny. But this podcast, I'm not used to screaming with dryness. But I felt that it was in its place now.

That's what it's called, to scream dry. Yes, that's what it's called now. But don't you agree that all these war movies where you have the king or the general. If the king is with you, the king is highly ranked. So the king would hold the whole shit and give... Often it's like this. Because you can't attack for time, right? The king or the general holds. And now the arrows go. And then you can just say, fired will.

It comes, Jim. Fired will. I'm like ordered. Is that a general's... Is that a legacy, you say, Morten? To say fired will. Fired will. Just shoot. I don't have time to think about you guys on the bullet gun.

Fired will. Shoot as you want. I have catapults and horses and shit that I have to keep. Jim! I have to keep an eye on you, Greeny said. Nice. Nice. Yes, because we are going to work later. Yes, we are going to work. I have a bit of a... I'm starting to get a holiday mood here. I was out a bit yesterday and thought it would be nice to just take a few repressions today.

And we talked a bit about it before we started. I told both of you that you are having a breakfast on Saturday. That is when we say tomorrow, when this podcast is released. Yes, because it will be released on Thursday. Because then Humor and Oslo is there, and you have been saving up tickets for the whole house. And I have a little surprise for you. You have one ticket left, and you are going to invest in the Gladehåsen. Oh, oh, oh.

I appreciate that, but unfortunately I am on my way to Ulsteinvik at that time. 1000 kroner the cost. I am going to be so mad. I have been to Ulsteinvik. Have you? It's a very, very nice place. Yes. Or not far away. A very, very far country.

Yes. It's a Warrholm place. Yes, I have been there many times, from around the corner. Which is probably a few hours by car. I work with finance. It was called the Golden Coast. And the rich people there. They didn't like... At least they didn't like the Oslo port, but the dress that was supposed to be their money. Russian. And they are rich in there. And they are not happy...

At least they are not happy in Oslo, but they should have money there. There are two neighbouring municipalities over there. And that's why I've been there. Fosnavog and Ullsandvik. Where one municipality is damn rich and the other one is very poor. Ullsandvik, there is a problem. And Fosnavog. Fosnavog.

Fosnavog, very poor. And they are very... They are very poor now. Is good at showing off. Bango too. They are Russian rich in a way. They are going around and flashing. Not like the old British nobility that you are used to handling. I'm so happy because they have a nice beat. You can see how the relationship is coming from.

It's so rare that the money comes from that. He's incredibly forward on that. Incredibly brave and... What is the ticket for 1000 euros? I would gladly accept it if I wasn't in Ulsteinvik when it comes to this. There's a ticket... Should one...

No, you'll get to arrange it yourself. But it's breakfast and you invite yourself. If you come for breakfast, at 10 o'clock. Yes, yes. I have the beginning week properly. But it's breakfast. You came for breakfast at 10? Yes. I have the breakfast on Sunday morning. It's a very early morning. It's 17.30 in the morning. I'm going to buy a crema.

For the ladies. And an apricinus. So they can mix this into a drink. Which they called my mosa. Yes, that's right. They called me mosa. You uncultured ape. We have to talk about it.

There are no ladies in the office who have heard of your name. You have heard of my mosa again! You are a Greek, right? I can't remember the drink from your... We don't have it in Lasse. We don't have it. And then there is beer, and I make a lot of food. Yes, nice.

I have said that... Now it's time for... Yes, I'm going to have lunch now. Oh yes, good. I was just going to say... Yes, you should just buy some food and be happy that you came. I'm just saying... Are you coming to the beer then? Yes, but yes. Because I'm going to train. I have a training regime now.

But you do that after... Yes, and I can probably take a mousse or two. Yes. But then there are many who are sad to say, yes, but I can't take a mousse or two. But then there are many who are sad. And say, yes, but you can't train and drink. No, not shit. They drink one beer at a time. And the Vikings, our ancestors, laugh at us. They thought we were so losers. For some losers we are. Who can never drink one beer. And the Vikings drank beer, ate soup and went from life to death.

They had a lot of sex. Yes, they were crazy. Yes, a lot. They were crazy, of course. And it's clear that you didn't go all the way to a fight, but to have a little soup in the bottom and a couple of glasses of milk. Because you mean they were able to limit the amount of soup before the fight? Yes.

They were so sophisticated? Yes, I don't know. I'll send you the address. You hear that. I thought that... Because I love soup. Have you had soup? No. I'm very fond of Steinsp, champignon and cantarelle. I've been to the world of food sop, and I've been to the world of fun sop as well. I'm not going to deny that.

The few times I've taken it, the first thing I thought was to lead my mind and said loudly, Oh, this is illegal! Is this illegal? It's very funny, and it can give some experience. But I had thought also that because the Vikings and our ancestors, they did this, there was no super power that said, No, this is not allowed to do. They loved it, of course.

But they did, they were probably They always had time and stuff. When they worked on a daily basis, and had regular jobs... The smith was out in battle, but he didn't take much of it when he was working and making horse shoes and such. Because then you had to bend and aim and control the order. How many other jobs in a Viking country can you come to Strakarmen? Back in Smé. And as a night watchman, or as a watchman who closes the city and takes care of it. Because it was not the Viking times, but after a while you got...

You had living lights in the streets. And they would lock them up. Street lights. You had... living light in the streets. So they were slacking off, street lights, you had boat makers, boat makers, with many subgroups in the boat making.

Or maybe only one who knew everything at that time. That's a good question. I guess you learned in a way. You had those who made materials, who made sticks and things. Yes, you have to cut and saw and cut and so on. So something like a nail must have existed. Then you had those who were like trolls, who were spitting in the future, and who had contact with the gods.

They had the divine, what can I say, yes, those kind of spiritual roles. The wise man. The wise man, you had... And then you had the buddha. Yes, of course, you must have that. We have had the buddha all the time. The raw has been a strange profession, an exciting profession. Yes, of course. We've had a lot of bad jobs. It's a real job. An exciting job.

We've been thinking about more everyday things. But a bad job is like day to day work. Yes, being a working day for a bad job. You can't fill 7,5 hours plus lunch with a to get people's heads with an axe for example? With less. We have heard about a lot of gruesome regimes where they have gone non-stop. But I guess you have several boulders. I don't think one boulder gets the responsibility

to just lift the axe for the whole day. Jim talked about a boulder from Russia that actually killed a lot of people. But you have those types of bould don't have time for administrative work. And the administrative officer is busy with papers and things at the office. Because he has to be out all the time. Every second someone has to be killed. And of course, you have to sit all summer long to get the administrative staff to help you.

And a bit depending on how far from the square, as it probably happens, you live. Let's say you come home around 16.24, after about 8-4 days as a kid. Home to your wife, who takes your fur coat and asks how your day is today, she's just like every other day, right? I'm like, no, today I have 38 pieces. I almost think so. Okay, now we just need to get something clear here. Yes, I'm a bum, dad works as a bum, but it's not like dad bumming all the time.

There's a lot more to the bumming profession than taking people's lives. Today it has been very calm. A lot of time to grind the oats, for example. There is a the job of the bidder? Isn't that the national The beautiful morning we all love so much. It could have been something completely different. If you had chosen to go in that direction. It could have been like that. I have four older half-brothers from Haugerud. And I hope to say that one of them is the most law-abiding. He sells hash. Yes, that's not true. It's almost strange that it hasn't gotten worse.

I think it's a very respectable profession. Hash sellers? He's ahead of his time. People want hash. Many people love to smoke marijuana there. Then someone has to sell it. And it's clear that it would be his downfall when he legalizes marijuana. Or will he work in a coffee shop? A foreign company when society is going to set up directors and so on. Because this is possible. You can market it.

He can, I hope, say the materials, the importers. It's easy. He is in the front line. So one of the parts is either the reason or it becomes a failure. Do you think that's like a business-wise direction where you often rise in degrees? You start at the bottom. You are a red-legged. And then you become a... When you take off your sneaker-pants and put on your clothes. And take the master-blog. Yes, and you lift the guys on the floor a bit, and the other dopedilers are like, He's not got time for us boys and girls. Just hanging out with like...

Weed... Weedens... What should I say? Naxta. Weedens Naxta. Who would have been in it? If he was going to find a public Norwegian. The thing with Naxta was always just the assistant or the next leader.

He was never the boss. boss. Isn't that right? I think so. I think he was the assistant after him. Under Gullvåg or something. Is that correct? That could be correct. And there were so many names in swing. Or what was his name? Or what was his name? What was his name? Sister to Stoltmer. There's something else about him.

It's more like a Russian politician, isn't it? No, it's not. No, wait. He has more. Not your sister Stoltmer. No's something else about him. It's more like a Russian politician, isn't it? No, he's not Stoltmer. No, he has more. Camilla Stoltmer. Imagine working in health directorate-type things for years, and just being a gray, I hope to say, fly on the wall. The entire business career, and then the fucking pandemic comes, and then you're frontside news day out of the day in.

That's almost what happened to you. Yes, that's actually exactly what happened. I remember, we don't know each other very well, but we've known each other for a long time. Because the first time I met you, it was when Jim had established modern media in Brugata there, where you had to go zigzag and break past junkies to get in. And then in the world's smallest heist, which often stopped. Up there we were two guests on the United We Podcast, some of the first episodes. And you were a relatively unknown comedian to me.

And then I have seen you not as a proud father, but more as a proud, proud uncle with a visitation permit, who stands a little bit below the school yard, but who looks over in the free minute. And then I have seen you bloom. It's the life it is. You work calmly and stubbornably against something bigger. But in the entertainment industry and in the shade, and suddenly you get times better than many who work in the front lights. I think so damn much.

You could not be wrong. I was in the shadows, yes. Pub... Elsekos once called it pub to pubcomic. That's a nice way to put it. Pub to pubcomic. And it was a big pleasure with that. But it's always nice to have some money.

I understand that. But it's also dangerous to get too much money. But with success, you also feel the company works and events work. There's a lot of work and a lot of money. And then I missed it while I was working a lot. And I can't say that loudly. I missed the old life. I missed... When it was easy. I never missed money and I can't say it loud, I missed the old life. I missed...

It was simple. I never missed money when I didn't have money. It went well. You can't miss something you don't have, but you must have dreamed of having more money. The things you could do with more money. It's super nice. But after I got out of the shelter, there've had a lot more work to do, more responsibility. And I've found myself very comfortable with it now.

But there were a few years where things went very well, but then I was like, damn, I'm a guy who loves not doing anything. And that's when the ideas come. When you don't do anything. We talked about smart phones before. Before I had a block on my inner thigh. I remember I had a mountain fox jacket. And I had a notebook and a pen on my inner thigh. And I was sitting on the bench,

and just looking at him with my block. And I was writing an observation about a guy who was hanging around with the buser over there. And it was a bit of a tight fit, because I sat there like an old poet, an old artist, like fucking Vergland, on the bus. But then I just wrote a buser joke. You didn't think that the guy who was hanging the buseman would be Espen Naxda? A young Naxda? It's not sure, but it could be. But what could have been your big national break, where you just went from being a calm Pyro and Pivo?

Pyro and Pivo. Pyro and Pivo. Pyro and Pivo. So pyro-technique and Pivo are the Slavic words for beer. So it's pyro-technique and beer. Pyro-technique and beer. When you suddenly hit something crazy, what could it be? What segment or what could it have been? That's a good question. I've wondered about it several times.

In 2023 and 2024 I made four programs on Football TV. The very obscure Lukka-channel Football TV, together with Thomas Aune. A very clear concept. Football TV. A very clear concept. There is one called Frod Eliya, who founded Josimar, for those who are football fans. Josimar needs subscribers, so it's a joke to keep it alive. But he has a tendency to start things,

and just call it what it is. So Frod Eliya is one of those who started Football TV, which is a football TV channel. He and his wife started a show called Kiosk on Vårdinga, which is called Kiosk. He was partly involved in the football pub Ball. A no bullshit family. Just straight up. I don't have to think that far. But at least on football TV I made and made four episodes of the show we have called Kurva.

The word in Polish? Yes, but it also means curve, which means a swing behind the goal. It's a bit of a division, but we went to Belgrade, Bukhara, Istanbul and Thuringia in East Germany. I made 4 episodes about derby games in the cities. It was a travel football TV show. That was my biggest dream in life. And you do that very often. I feel that you have been very busy doing that.

Yes, that's what I'm doing. but now it's more of a job. I was hoping that wouldn't happen. That you wouldn't be so violent. No, that it would either be bought up or that I would be discovered in a way. So I could do it with a bigger production. So that's probably where it could happen. I'm sorry that it doesn't work out day by day. It's been half a year since the last episode now,

and it's not like neither TV2 or NRK or VIA Play or anything like that have contacted to develop this further. It's a shame, because it's so damn little money in TV today. I know all about it. So this is something that could easily have been made before TV. In TV-land age. Now I'm not going to compare him with the rest, but it's a show that is not completely different from the concept of the football war with Bård Tufte Jansen, who was on NRK 15 years ago. Just... It was so much... It was so much fun and the big events, but to see the crowd just far down there, it's a well-known thing that it's often, it's not always, I would say that the Premier League is fascinating in its own way, but it also has a championship

which is under there again, a completely different type of football, which it was more honest work. It was more intense, people running out and it was more relaxed. Yes, a lot more number of brits per elver, in a way. And classic brits, the name that comes up now is Paul Mullen, because I have just seen it, welcome to Wrexham. But like, arch-brits who just work hard to Wrexham. But like, the Modern football is about playing from behind. You need to have technical skills. But then you have to play the card game. There is no card game again in the Premier League.

There is not one damn guy who just smacks the tackle and can't kick or pass a ball. There is no one again. But where in the world are the most insane games? Where there is old football, where they are playing something crazy. Yes, that's a good question actually. The most insane game I've been to is the derby in Beograd, between Røde Stjerne and Partisan. When I was on that, the first time, I've been on that derby twice, it was completely full,

at a stadium of 30,000 people. An old-fashioned stadium with a running track, no roof and such. So it should be a bad experience at the weekend. Football is pretty much worse than the Premier League. It's a bit like Ullevål, a bit more than Ullevål. Yes, that's it. But worse in terms of facilities. Damn, it was bad at Ullevål. You were there?

I was... Where were you when Norway was in Italy? I was at Ullevål. They sent me straight to the king. I got a beautiful place. I was at Ocean Bar. I drank my shit. Then it was like that, both of the curves, if you will, the swings, the curves were full of home fans and away fans. We had room in the middle line. It was such a monstrous sound, you didn't know who you heard. Everything was in stereo.

The game has everything. In the first round, the away team burns two penalties in front of the home turn. The red card is used, and the game is over in overtime in the second round. By a change in the home team in front of the home turn. And everything between just chaos. But it's like an American movie script on how the game went. It's like you wouldn't believe it if you didn't see it. But it's like, the people killed each other, right?

So you were in high tension all day, and then you get that insane football game up. And yes, I live to tell the tale. Yes, you do. And it's something to do with... I understand very well the fascination for these events. Of course, you can visit all kinds of sports around the world, but people gather at a stadium, you cheer for different teams, you get all excited. I don't watch football games, and I don't know myself anymore. I have a stand-by on this, when I air-drunk in front of a child on the way to Fort Trafford. That's what made me become a periferian uncle with a visit ban, to change the team a bit, because it's going to be...

It's not going to work... Because it's been a long time since it happened. I have to be honest. But you have to... It's been a long time since you last air-drunked in front of a child, is that what you're saying? It's always... It has to work in a way that... It's a bit difficult to say. 8 years ago I was... You you have to act like it happened yesterday. Or at least it's a bit more tricky with the voice. So it was Barcelona. It's so damn fun to stand and drink and sing on what we used to be.

It was Bishop Blaze we had on, Tall Gate. It's a big outdoor party, and it was a really good atmosphere. We drank and sang and we had a great time. There was a train going towards the stadium, and it was a rival. It was a barrier to keep the supporters away from each other. And on the other side of the street, on a cafe table, there are Barcelona families sitting there. They are just in the city.

It's an arrangement, a sports arrangement. A cozy family trip where they will watch a football game. As part of it. Madame Tussauds tomorrow. Where I have been hoisted up here. Orwrapper? No, it's Barcelona. It's Barcelona. We have woken up. And I'm doing things. Against the family that has been set up. Yes. We are just singing. We are so primitive now.

We have brainwashed ourselves through a whole day. We don't just brainwash ourselves. It will be the most primitive challenge of ourselves. We are just entities of some football supporters, that are walking down there. And I drive towards the Barcelona family, this classic double air-drunking, two hands, that you charge the brush twice. You have a shotgun that charges in the air. Not with one hand, but with one hand charging the shotgun. That's how you double the ruckus.

With the fact that you also show that you come out of those two kitties. Yes, that scenario here. You have two kitties. There are two kitties. I'm not going to tell the jokes, because I'll be on the next show. Is it still live culture? It's the previous show, I'm done with it. It's been filmed, so it will be released eventually.

But now we're working on new material for a new show, which will most likely be released next year, in the year 2077, to be honest. Can you see the double air-drunking? Because I got to see that now. But those who are listening... It will come, of course. And this is not a joke, this is a true story. And then it's allowed, and you can tell the story many times, and you can still enjoy it.

But I feel so damn good about getting a head start on football games. And at the same time, I am fascinated by... Let's say in Norway, I live with Lille Strøm. We and Vålinga live above each other. People have family members who work with the other team. You meet at work, you have friends you know. They are Vålinga. Yes, right? You go up to each other all the time. You meet all work, you have friends you know. I'm Vålinga.

You meet each other all the time. To be honest, the two clubs have similar cultures with the same working identity. Vålinga has a little bit of hate for each other now. And then you have the everyday life where everyone comes together and maybe tease each other. And then, what I'm trying to say is that you're actually pretty much like people, but... It's just a role. Yes, and then it comes to that.

We are hoisting different football teams, and then just let it sink a bit. That is enough to make people violent. There are a lot of goals, when Lyne and Vålinga meet, always in the round of the Bishletta, it happens after a certain event. It happens. They throw a blus on each other. That's a close-up attempt to kill.

I'm very good at blus, but throwing a blus at someone is life-threatening. That's what you do. And all this is not about whether you are a political enemy or you have faith in your wife. No. You have faith in them and not in them. I think it's so crazy that we let it be like that, and I love it. Yes, he must love it. And in Norway it's relatively easy for us. It can be a bit awkward, because you go in the role, around the match.

But then you meet and you are in civilian and take it a little easier. But it's not so bad in Manchester either, but where I have been most to see the game, City and United have always been there in the rivalry. Now they have become even, or rather City has taken United back on the level. But unfortunately, but before that it was the opposite. City was not always in the Premier League. I think they were even under the championship. I remember one of the first trips I was on, we were going to live in a small house. We lived in a small house, we were so tired of seeing the sound of the crickets.

Bed and breakfast-like. A small town in Manchester. We should have done more research there, because it was a very city country. We went home with young boys with United. We went home in a suit. And they fucking drove us. People out of the window in the car just... Fucking Wankers! Go home and fuck! It was a real thrill? I'll tell you something surprising.

I've been to quite a few games in Istanbul. I have a team there, Fenerbahce. Is that your team? Yes. Is that your team? They are my boys. They are your boys? It's a bit difficult to be on the team with them now,

because they were doing something violent with both Russia and Gazprom. But I've been to several times, for example to Fenenberge and Galatasaray several times. And it's like Fenenberge comes from the Asian side of Istanbul, while Galatasaray and Besiktas come from the European side. And you live on the European side, where it happens, apart from the day of the fight. And it's like I've been in the European side in the morning, with for example Fenerbahce dress and scarf, and not least,

I have been in the fight against Galatasaray, and take the ferry back at night, and walk through the thickest Galatasaray country with Fenerbahce effects. No problem. Everyone thinks that you get killed, and you can get killed, but I have done it several times, without any incidents. And on a daily basis?

Yes, on a daily basis it is one thing, people are out eating breakfast and there are children in the streets, so I have never been worried. But when you take the last ferry from Asia to Europe, and the streets are dark, and people are drunk, and not least angry supporters who have lost derby. Your old sadist, you took the chance, I guess. You have a courage. Yes, maybe I am.

It's a bit of a boat, so nice to do. I've always been fond of the little element of danger, without it actually being so damn dangerous, but I feel that you live a little... I like the food a little stronger than I should have. I agree. I like it too. I always said, I lived in Greenland for six or seven years. Element of danger.

I was very pleased with that. And now I've moved up. It's safer and calmer to be on up on Bjølsteinborden. But I always said, and I stand for it, that I want to have a little terror-danger in my life. It should be a little. But it's not down there. I live right next to it, and there are possible cracks in the ground. Isn't that where the terror happens?

No, no, that's where the terror happens. There you are safe. You have some crazy guys who are wandering around the streets. I have seen some episodes. But the wildest things happen often on Bjølsens and Rød. It's there to have a man's house and the one who killed his lawyer. He knew a little bit about that guy. He was murdered a few years ago.

So maybe that's why I've moved from Greenland. Because I'm too close to those who plan terror. Those who live in Krekar and the other rabbi guys. Baty and... What's wrong with Baty? Baty and... They often lived in Greenland. But you don't care when you eat, right? And then you have the two that always mix, Ubaidullah Hussein and Mohamed.

I don't remember who is who or who has done it. But they have patrolled the streets of Greenland as well. It's crazy how people radicalize scenes in the other world. You have Breivikker and the evil of the prophet. And this is a bit like... Yes, happy pride to everyone out there. Speaking of which, the guy in the world is like a damn... What's his name?

Yes, Zappa, the one on the board. Right? It's... It's scary. Radicalization is scary. And what's interesting here is that Lasi Breivikene and Prophet Zuma, they're the two main enemies ideologically now. The feathered ones can always be drawn in.

These ones. Yes, but it's a bit like... Våling and trying to say. These are basically the same people in the bottom. The surrounding areas of Breivik were white and afraid of Muslims. But the surrounding areas of the people of the Prophet are also afraid. But the surrounding areas of the people are afraid of the other side. And then you get the same extremism, with the same fundamental pillars,

but with different influences and values. I see in the future that we can see a kind of cooperation between outer Islam and outer right. You could see that a bit during WW2. It wasn't difficult for the Arabs to help the Jews against the Axis. If you take Breivik and Matapor as examples, they are very conservative, and have pretty much the same conservative values. When it comes to... Breivik is not against music, playing the music that way. He had something classic on his ears, I don't know what he was doing. But they both have a desire for a woman, who is not that dominant. To put it that way. A woman who is cool.

I don't think any of them like humor. No. I don't think they like Breivik or Matapor is particularly fond of Pride, you could say. No. It's rumored that Breivik might have been gay himself, but that will be up to me. I think it's a bit of a buzzword. No, it's for someone in prison to find out. Also, I can tease you for the next show with a new joke I hope.

It's about this myth about so-and-so in prison. Speaking of Breivik, about Tabor and so-and-so in prison, the political correctness thing that has been overshadowing the western world for 10-15 years. Do you feel that it is starting to let go of its grip in your industry? 100% and it has done so for a long time. Was it a difficult period? No, I have never really come to Norway. It was just a period where you didn't understand how big the group was,

which was so damn fucked off and easily offended. So it seemed like there was a much bigger group than it seemed. Those who were angry at everything. And now they came to the surface of very important fights, which I support 100%. It's the fight for everyone to be able to love who they want. These freedom fights. Black Lives Matter and all that. Such things can also be big over and polarised.

But that's another debate. Another discussion. But that's what you do it for. For me, these fights are just like you were talking about. The fight to love the one you want. And the fight to be the one you want, and the fight to be the one you want. And that should scare and torture others. No, but it is when those fights restrict the freedom of expression, or the need to be the one they want, that's where there gets messy, right? So there were some important fights that were taken,

and that are not finished fighting, but where you get pretty far on the road, a lot of running, of course, all that. And then, in all this, woke things came up, and it became like, what is allowed to say no?

And it was a period where you did not dare to say the most ridiculous things. Because you didn't have the courage or the overview. And it was a bit of a strange period. But then you quickly get over it, and now you have a counter-culture to the idea. Now you should say the most ridiculous things. Because you almost want to have the debate or the fight. Because it is so important for the comicals to just...

Even if I say the worst things, I am not evil for that reason. Rather the opposite. And there is also a point and a standard bit I work with every day. It is that we have to learn. I apologize to the girls themselves, because I don't always know what I'm talking about in podcasts. You don't hear both your own and yours, right? No, no. I don't either.

Okay, okay. I actually did it before. Yes. And realized that it went really slow. And that's why I've over-humored often, by just drive on, I interrupt the guests a lot. That's the kind of interruption I've realized. That it has to go faster. My profession is to be super effective. Anyway, we have to learn to understand who is evil and who is kind. Cosby, Cosby smoke, Bill Cosby, something happened in my life. Then I realized that those who are beautiful, and never walk, and never do things, and smile nicely, and open doors for women,

and, madam, please, they are often the ones who are the bastards. It is never! It is incredibly naive to think that those who are evil and bad, and then look very bad. It is equally naive to think that, as to see a Easter crime, the start of a Easter crime, He started a post-war movement. There's the mother. He didn't become a worker in the camping van. He is the mother. He tortures cats. He has never been the unemployed in the camping van, who is the mother. He doesn't torture cats. They are the only friends he has. Always that. A person who has a childlike cellar, would do everything to get everyone a B.

Would dress nicely, and be a gentleman. Yes. There is the classic horse shoe version, it's always the one you suspect the least. But when you get over that, the one you suspect the least becomes the one you suspect the most. And then he becomes the least likely. It's clear that there is some double psychology there. It's difficult. A murderer is often...

The most dangerous is the smart psychopath. Who also controls the double psychology and the teams. But it's the same principle. How many times have you seen a scandal about an old white Republican who has spoken so insanely against the homophilia and perversions and such, who just come from being in the closet and working with Rentboys for 20 years. It happens every other week. And it's exactly the same principle.

That you try so hard to hide the one you really are. I remember, I had... Speaking of the time we had in Storgata, with the early modern media, I had a first podcast, New Yorksmond. True. Speaking of that... With Lila Sjoakim. Have you stopped serving pinot to your guests?

No, but we have changed the time to 11. You were supposed to work and you got a mouthful. I have had a repression beer or two. But pinot and 11, maybe in my younger days. Or if we play on Friday, it's summer and holiday, yes, it can happen. So I was just unlucky with the day? You were unlucky. You were very unlucky.

But I can quickly... I have also... I talked to a wine expert, so to speak, for a long time, but he had told me about this... This is what I usually do, that I buy wine, and talk about and say which wine there is. I don't think I'm allowed to, you know. But that's because I buy the wine at the company's card.

And if it comes to their book, they should know. Or should I show the episode? Listen to the episode. Do you think It's totally Try to get the numbers to be correct. No, but you don't have to do that much, because we get the correct information. More or less. Yes, so you just have to be pretty correct. And if you have something, housing loans and loans and such is important for correct. You have to think, if you have an internal distribution of loans and interest,

then you have to change that in the tax card and such. But if you have that, it's not much card. But why is that? I don't know. I think it's scary every time. But it hasn't been booked yet. Even though the company is called Galo, Gøyo and Galskap. It invites you to do it later. It does. Or it's a double psychology.

He doesn't have to pay for it. He can't have that name. To find something stupid. Just a financial acrobat. No, no, he can't have that name. Just finance acrobat. But you are a damn smart acrobat if you have that kind of nickname. I am a comedian and everything is business for me. Because I run a business here too. I have outsourced a part of the business to other people, but I'm hands on, and I've always liked to be hands on with the business.

It can't be for nothing. So I have an ironic distance to everything that has to do with the business part of our business. And it's gone well so far? Flatly, InvestAS, is the name of the company. And that was just because I thought it was the most stupid thing I could call it now. Flatly Holding, it was a guy on Bryn who had it. He has to be kicked out. He has to be kicked out. So that was Flatly InvestAS. And now I have to say that sometimes,

and I'm not so easy to deny it. And then I notice that I'm struggling a little with it. What's the name? Yes, it's put in West-IS. But the idea is that if I have a congenital distance to the business, I can always generate humor and a loose sense of being. So I have been thinking about the office, or the follow-up on that. I talked about it last time, but I'm going to talk about the office now.

In the view of a location and a room, I'm going to have a very contour-like office. With a fireplace. It's just like Globus. I was about to say that. Globus, you just have to have. So every time I come to the office, I come in and I'm like... Oh, fuck! It's too stupid!

It's too stupid! You have to have an old-fashioned filing cabinet with a lock. Without having any papers physically for a long time. But you need one like this. I need one like this. I don't want to say that there's something in the drawer. Lock it up, put things in there and keep it. What are you going to do at the office? Write jokes?

Yes, that's just because if I have to do simple things like clocking hours, it's very easy for me to procrastinate by doing that first. Because I think it's so hand-holding, right? Creative work requires you to enter a zone. I was inspired by, for example, Ari Kalve, who is a very productive and funny comedian. He doesn't come by himself. He has an office in the same building as his apartment. So he goes down two floors, and there is the office. And there he only works creatively, and then he goes home.

So the office should only be for creative work. And that is the idea. Jerry Seinfeld says the Don't Break Chain thing, where he crosses the calendar days, can't break the chain. Two hours creatively, just sit and write. Try to get out creatively, every day. It gives a completely different productivity that I need in life. I believe that. I've been working as a teacher for many years. I quit two years ago and now I'm just doing these things.

Not to guest, but to do podcasts. Are you a teacher again? Yes, there is something. I feel sorry that it has become difficult to be a teacher. That there are so many bad working conditions. That people stop doing so much. Then you should stop. You are so good, I would like to have you as my teacher. For our children.

You haven't seen me out in the field, so I should be a little careful with that. I stopped two years ago, and I haven't had a job. I only come to Modern Media when I'm going to record something, and then I'm home. And I notice, now I'm doing a lot of research and stuff, for example Gangsterbonden, and I notice when I'm home, when the workday starts and ends. When am I supposed to... Often I sit on the same sofa seat with my legs on the puff and write. An hour later I sit and watch Boardwalk Empire in the same position.

I don't understand what I was. So I think I would have been very good at investing in something office-like. And you have something to do with that when you come to the office, you don't have your private Mac. You have your own. You don't have any internet either, you don't have internet either. You almost have to have that. Yeah, you know what? I think so too. Because research is easier to do at home than self-writing. I think it's almost impossible to have internet either. Then you can't have your documents in the sky either. You have to remember that.

Yeah, damn. No, it's true. Yes, you can have it offline mode, and then at the end of the day, when the door is closed, the internet will be on. And it will be loaded. Something like that. I notice that the pissing is starting to get on the line here. Yes. And I think... Have we covered most of it? I don't know, Elba. No, we haven't. We haven't covered most of it. What do you want to say? I'll be honest. Cover covered most of it. I don't know what the plan is. We haven't covered most of it.

What do you say? I'll be honest. We've covered most of it. I'll be honest. You just said that we'll talk about it, but we'll be sure to talk about this and that. So I have a little document with a password for those two areas. And we haven't been in any of it. Then I'll piss and we'll talk very soon.

Then we'll go through that. You don't need that. I forgot that. Listen, it's just a millisecond. Yes, that's true. I say that there is the red water in the toilet. What's it called in the front?

The left one. The swine. The swine of the red water. Did you get to pee before him? Yes. What's his name again? Sveinon. Sveinon Rotvatten. Did you get to piss before him? Yes. When you see prominent people behind you... Sveinon Rotvatten, yes. He can become a Minister of Culture one day. I hope not.

But do you do anything extra to make sure that nothing drops again? Or do you pee like no matter what? I don't stand and pee, I sit. You do? Yes. Is it the family side that has started? Or has it always been like that? It's the family side that we do. I can't be with a woman who is very nice on stuff like that. Who is very a-fiery on stuff like that. Then I get completely lost.

I've never heard a woman talk about stuff like that. Like, can you take a shower? I would never do that. I don't care. And I'm very clean and tidy. But within certain limits. I'm a bit like... I'm in bed and stuff. I could never fall asleep. No, no, that's nothing. You just get more to do when you're going to bed. Yes, but I don't have a woman who's interested and cares about that.

You can do it nicely if someone comes who might be older generations, who might appreciate that it's alright. I have almost exactly the same feeling as Silje and mine. We like to have it relatively clean, but there should be someone living there. It should be seen that people live here. I don't have to clean the dinner and wash the table right after. It can take the day after. We just have to go to bed. There is no stress. I have to clean after this. I don't have to.

It irritates me when people stress about it. If I have been eating dinner with some friends and stuff, who stress about it, irritates me. Go sit down, and drink another beer, and relax. What the fuck are you controlling? Why do you have to do that?

It's just... It's over, in a way. It's not on their block. No, no. And that block, I mentioned it because I thought when you talked about the necessary pissing, I thought, okay, now we're getting close.

So I'll just mention that I actually had a plan B here. It wasn't meant that I would go through all that I have written. But first, can you go through the list? Then we will see what we will dive into. You just said that we will get into history and travels. So I have a category called History. Where the one word is, Loke Luciano got good Norway to avoid the First World War. Yes, relatively. If the doctor is wrong. Else would blow up Hitler.

Yes, is it the Valkyrie operation? No, it's five years earlier. Oh, okay, this is absolutely wrong. Stalin's Star De the transfer from Mao. Absolutely true. A Danish driver drove a modified car through Serbian positions to deliver emergency help to Sarajevo. Yes, yes. I think we should go through the big fish, Stalin or Hitler before that. And the last one in history is the life-threatening public toilets in the Roman Empire,

which is called Cloaca Maxima. We'll take that one. Okay. This is an episode of Historieboden, which is called the Roman Empire's life-threatening toilets. But we'll study that Historieboden more now, which is almost never seen. Done.

But in any case, it was life-threat dangerous. One thing is that it was extremely shitty. It was hygienic life. Hygienically unprotectible. Yes, because it was completely dark. There were no windows on the public toilet. Yes, of course. So it was completely dark. You didn't see anything. And there was also no, and it was also not that anyone had the responsibility to clean it. And it was also a kind of sponge on a stick that was used instead of toilet paper. And people had wounds and such things, so it was hygienic life-threatening. I think typhus was extremely extensive, if I remember correctly.

But it was guaranteed that you got some diseases when you were sitting there. Yes, but luckily you just got diseases. Because there was also a lot of methane gas in the cloaca, among other things from the shit and stuff. And we were inside the vikings. The Romans also had living light in the streets, torches. So there could be glowers that went down in the cloaca. And you could sit on the ground and it could either burn or explode. And there was also a rich animal life in the cloaca maxima. So, roaches, copper and rots, you understand that.

But there were also snakes. It was a flax for people that it was dark. You didn't like it, Maxima? Yes, of course. So, It's impossible to just go out in the woods and do nothing. That's possible. I guess many people chose to find a wall and stand behind it, rather than go into this dark room with a fire alarm and a fire extinguisher. But what we can assume is that this was a hell of of cadaver discipline. So it was... It was not possible to pee behind a car with apples. You do that in Orestaq. You have to pee behind containers. Then you don't sit.

It's a death penalty. Then I don't sit. I It's a death penalty. Then I don't sit down. I can enjoy standing up pissing. And in the new year I stand up... It's a luxury to be under yourself sometimes. Yes, but then I pay extra attention to it. When I destroy it. I see.

In Rome it was very hard to piss off. I think so. Because it smells like shit. You can say that it doesn't rain for several weeks. It's completely insane. It is said that when there is a hot wave in a city, there is no piss in the street. Have you been to the Roskilde Festival?

No. They have their own concept. if the weather is good. People in the camp, especially, just go to the outer part of the river and pee there, rather than just go there. So people go and pee all the time, and the river is around the camp, so it's kind of the circumference of the piss. And if it's dry for a few days, the Danish says that it's urine dust. Because people walk around in tramps, so the dust with urine flies through the air.

You probably get it in your nose and mouth through a week at least. Right. I didn't want that. So then you had to go down to this... It's interesting to quickly talk about Stalin's It was in 1949, two months after Mao had established the People's Republic of China He was going to Moscow for a state visit And Stalin was a bit worried, because he knew that he and Mao had different views on what communism should be, and the goal was to get a kind of cooperation agreement. Did you call it communism at that time, or was it a term that came to be?

Did both Mao and Stalin say, we are doing communism? Or maybe it was Marxism. Good question actually. Socialism was also a parable. It's connected, a common term for a lot of things. Later Mao got his own ism. So he was apparently a deviant. You have Stalinism, Maoism, you have... You call it that.

But Stalin was a bit worried. You don't say Hitlerism, you're saying Nazism. No, so Stalin was supposed to prepare himself, and he had done this beforehand, because Stalin had made it clear that by studying performance, you could not find out about health condition or diet, but about personal properties. Yes, very. And that he had through the secret police before it was called KGB. They had set up their own department with top secret laboratories,

which people from Stalin needed to know more about. Stealing, execution and analysis and so on. What did you see? For example, if you had a high level of potassium. Yes, because you could find such things in the laboratory at that time. And that was an indication that you were probably a calm and accessible person. Yes, because you knew, it's just a little bit like the chemistry in it, which is interesting. How do you see that? On the tests, we talked about...

Yes, it's the 40s. 40s, like? I don't understand. And another thing, potassium, did you understand that you drink a lot of milk and eat bananas? It's calcium that is milk. Calcium is in bananas. That can happen. Yes, I think it is. Yes, because that is another thing. He was going to find out about personal characteristics here.

A banana-eating type. It takes it easy to eat bananas, right? Yes, but it's a bit of a long distance. You sit in the park until 3 o'clock. You eat a banana as long as you want. I don't think Breivik on his way to Uteåja ate a banana. No. He sat over the wheel and drove over it. There was no bananas in miles.

Or there was probably someone on... Anyway, another thing they called... What is it called? Tryptophan level. And that makes less sense, because it is an amino acid that you only get through food. It's not something the body produces. So it's a battle with the idea that this should be said about personal characteristics. Because this only says something about what you eat.

But personality is defined from what you eat as well? Yes, you are what you eat. You are what you eat if you only eat the substance in the hummer. Does that say something about the person? Yes, if he gets new hummers. And if he gets to open up a lot more oysters. Have there been more hummers and oyster in the course of success? After success? No. I am very fond of seafood.

But I mean both hobby and excitement. And oysters are damn exciting. But I'm not fond of slime and shells and raw stuff. I just think it's a bit of akel for me. I like it a lot. I think crabs and crabs are much better than worms. Totally. I'm a crab man. I grew up with crabs. I've had a lot of holidays on the Smøla, the road to Hånden. And we have been actively fishing crabs there.

I've fished crabs since I was very young. And there is a river of crabs, so we always had the whole washings on the banks. We had washings on the banks with boiled crab meat. And it's a luxury today, it's very expensive with crab meat. It was just for us. And it's damn nice. And you can make a loaf or bread with Mayonnaise and crab. And the big tears and lemon. Or you can stand down there and clean.

And fill the shells with cleaned crab meat. And a little from the crab itself, but not much. You like the rind and the thing, but it's very brownish. I like the color very much. It works, but it's nice to mix a bit, of course. But I think it's a bit hardcore to go for just yourself. But you are very... I've eaten worse on my travels.

Yes, you have. I think that hummers, which are so much more expensive, and which are out of your range, I don't agree with that. I don't need that. I totally agree. But back to Stalin and Mao. Stalin was prepared. Mao was put in a luxury suite in Moscow,

where the Russians had connected the toilet in the suite to the Kloak system. And it would lead to a storage room, if it was in the room below. And after that, the shit was transported to these laboratories and tested. So the operation was going well? Yes, and Mao was fed with all sorts of delicacies, to shit as much as possible in ten days. And an unproved statement is that Mao, at one point, for the agreement they had hoped to reach, never happened. And at one point Mao should have been quite dissatisfied with the progression in this situation.

That he could have said, according to a historian, I'm here to do more than eat and shit. Yes, that's it. A little different than what his射nance were of the highest priority for Josef Stalin. Do you know what Stalin came out to about the personality of Mao? No, but it is speculated that reached a kind of measuring point here. I think people have got enough of both you and me actually. No, I think actually this here, I love this, there were many points, so I just wanted to hear the others too.

You are on? Yes, we are traveling. In addition to Eastern Europe and Balkans, I am very fond of the Middle East, where I have been a bit too little. But I have a traveling partner who has been with me both to Jordan in Israel and in Palestine, which does not fit so well. I do not understand why he is always there, because he hates everything we do. And I have written a little about USA and Mexico, which maybe are not so sexy in our days. But I was strongly advised by a Mexican, because we were, me and three friends,

we were on a road trip in USA, the first time I was there. And then we had come down to Los Angeles, we were at a baseball game, and then we knew that in Havana andijuana and Mexico was only two hours away. So I and a few others decided to go there the next day. So we heard a Latino who was sitting next to us at the baseball game. And he said, ''Follow me, you shouldn't. I have never heard of anyone who is not kidnapped in Tijuana.''

He hadn't heard of a case of not kidnapping. So we went there the next day. kidnapped in Tijuana. He hadn't heard of a case of no kidnapping. So we went the next day. I think some of my friends were there, and were forced to cross the border and were on the verge of being killed. That was probably very dangerous. I think it was...

many years ago. Do you remember any stories from that time? Yes, there were some cartel wars that happened there. But I think he took it a little hard. Guaranteed kidnapping, as soon as the crisis was over. But what we experienced was that the apothecaries in Tijuana had invaders. Sleazy Mexicans who just said, hello, hello, what you need? And just like, I'm in good health, but we got drugs, drugs.

I'm not interested in that either. But we got girls in the back. The pharmacies? The pharmacies sold drugs and prostituted. Is it only fully privatized or is it a state pharmacy? I don't know, but we drove down the border, went over. But it happened a bit in Mexico. With a little more...

There is a little more order there now than before. When was this? This was in 2011. So it was a pretty short time after such a government crackdown on the cartels. So it was probably safer than it had been three years earlier. But it was a damn weird thing, because when we came from the border to the center of Tijuana, this was the first thing that happened, that there were some kind of apothecaries in the outside of the city, that they were going to have us in the back room.

I had thought, when in Rome? Why not? What do you have here? Just to look a bit. So we get to the center and one of the biggest tourist things in Tijuana is probably donkeys, which they have mated like a zebra. And then you have ten dollars to take pictures with the zebra. It sounds like a freak show from 1902. They just paint animals and say, this is an animal that everyone is looking at. I felt like I was one of those street animals

who was drawn into a woman's show. Or the world's strongest dwarf. I started watching Kidnapped in Thailand. I was in the police. How was it? I was alone, I getting kidnapped in Thailand. I joined the police. How so? I was alone, I was a bit drunk, I had been out for a while and then I was locked in a place. And one of them had kept me there and I had to pay a lot of drinks. That's classic. I was exposed to what was shown to be the Russian mafia in Riga.

I was quite young. Uncomfortable. I say that I was a young man in Bangkok and that it went really well. But I don't know. I have never seen myself say that I had a death or that I should have seen the world from a death-rich sky. And I would have seen everything that happens around people. If you had seen me from the perspective of the sims, I would have seen that I was walking around in Bangkok,

and people would come with knives and stab me in the neck. And when they were going to stab me, a car would come and drive over the same road. And it would have been really deep shit all the time, but it's just a fluke. Sometimes you don't know how much shit you have. It's like that. It's just been that. I've heard that people have been totally robbed of everything they own. They have taken out the mini bank and taken out everything they have. So it doesn't happen. I came out of nowhere. But to conclude, you who are so excited, I have some thoughts about where I want to go next year.

But do you have any travel tips? Where should I go? What do you like? I can go to have thought... I am not in the top 2. Or Japan. Never been, but been top 3 on my wish list for 20 years. Also Latin America. Very... between America and South America. Absolutely.

I haven't been to many places. If it's going to be Europe, it has to be more than I haven't heard about. You can judge if it's Europe or not. One of the best trips I've had was a trip in Påsken 2015, where I was supposed to go with a friend, but he had to sign a contract the day before. And that was the first time I went anywhere alone. It was a 10-day trip to Armenia and Georgia. And then I had made a point in advance, long before he signed the contract, of doing as little research as possible. Because I thought the names themselves were so exotic and mythical in a way. Exactly.

That I just wanted to be surprised and not have any expectations about one or the other. And when I was alone I had to be extra social to get something out of it. So it was a fantastic experience. I flew to... It's the same as any other way of doing it. I flew to Yerevan in Armenia and I was there for 4-5 days. Both at the hostel and I participated in free walking tours and some excursions so you could see some of the country. Incredible nature in that area, in Kaukasus. Armenia is insanely good at making cognac. Georgia is one of the first and still the best countries to make wine.

Yes, I know. I have been paying attention to Georgia lately. Very fun to win. Yes. Both countries are reasonable to be in. Everyone is eating and so on. Very good food, especially in Georgia. So what can you say about that? It's a bit like... You get the best of many worlds. The most used expression is that you are on the Silk Road. But here you have Iran in one corner, Turkey in the other, Russia in the third.

So you get together the whole of Syria. Armenia, Georgia, Khaouus, Syria, you know what? Should be a priority. Is it a place to bring your kids? Yes, I would say so. It's calm and peaceful. In comparison. Yes, in comparison.

And cleaner and nicer than you expect. Yes. It's a great tip. I would like to bring more. With kids? I mentioned... No, I would like to take some without children. Because it is possible to take a small one and let the boy be alone.

Yes, because the next thing I would say was... Honestly, you have to be allowed to enjoy yourself a little bit. I have to. And you only do that without children. Yes. It will be something else. Jordan. An incredibly pleasant travel destination. It's in the middle of the desert. But have you had a remarkable safe oasis with Syria and Iraq? And what are their allied ways? Why are they so safe in all... I don't know. They are quite resource-weak. so they haven't been a perfect target.

They haven't, right? Because that's what defines you, everything and everything you have to do. But there it's like, because I would say that we were a friend-family, but it could have been a romantic relationship trip, and it could have been a family love trip, and it could have been a family trip. It works for everything. And then you have fantastic places like Petra, the old town in the mountains. Petra is one of the wonders in Civilization, which I play with. I can build Petra on an island, a field with a field of orcs, and then all the orcs are... because it's like... partly octagonal branches of the whole game,

and the orc branches get yield, so you get value and resources on the orcs. But Jordan is like a treasure chest. Because Petra is a kind of oasonarmist, is that the thing? It is, from the entrance to Petra, where you actually solve the ticket and such, there is a short section between two quite steep mountains, a rather narrow path, so the entrance is spectacular, and then there is's an old town, between mountains.

What you think of when you hear Petra is the entrance to a library, or something like that. Which is built in the mountains. Are we close to the old Sumerians now? I think they are... The civilization that was built last year? Yes, it is... It's Urfattet and Tigris and the like? Yes, we are not far away.

But you have that, you have a lot of world history. The Romans have been there, the Smanes have been there and so on. And of course, much older than this one with Petra. A couple of hours driving from Pet, you have Vadi Rum, which is the orc landscape they have played in Star Wars in, which looks like Mars. Where you... By far the most raw movie scene ever for me. I have seen it a hundred times when I was little. When there is this moon in the or desert. Where they have several... It's actually from several movies. Where they throw...

It's like a death penalty to be thrown out of that the desert. And then there is a kind of strike in this... What shall I say? The steel that has been built around the desert with a torch and fills the desert. And then there is a strike there. And then it's full of water and they fall down there.

It is fantastic. You can also go to Akkaba, which is like Vadirum. There you have a typical bathing town. You can bathe in the Red Sea, lie and dive in the water while looking over Israel, to the right and Egypt to the left. The white thing is that you have a half hour from Saudi Arabia, further down the street. There is surfing and the classic stuff there,

but you can also just go to the Dead Sea, which is a very fucked up thing to do, but it's a bucket list type of thing. I've done it. Yes, right? I mean, I was in Turkey once, I've been there a lot, I mean that... But the Dead Sea is not in Turkey.

No. It's Palestine slash the earth. Where did I bathe then? once, and I was a little bit of a fan. But you didn't die in Turkey? No, that's not true. It's Palestine slash Earth. Where did I live then? The same. The same as that. But that's also a... A great tip.

If we take one from Africa, maybe not North Africa. I haven't been to Africa. You've built me up as more experienced as I am. I have big holes on my CV. But you have been around a lot in Eastern Europe. And that's not necessarily the case. I have had a tradition, but it's been two years with some blue tour,

with some old friends, where I didn't get to be on the first tour. And I am very happy about that. Where did it go? Because it went to Romania. I've been there. Yes. You were supposed to walk through nature and there were some things. And this is a guy who is the captain of a boat,

he has been in the nature a lot, but he had bombed a bit of height meters and in a way, terrain and such on the map, so they had gone through and it started to get scary and such, and then they had not even noticed that this is an incredibly bear-like area. It went around in constant risk of being eaten by the bear. I'm not going to be close to the bear. I'm not going to be close to the snow. The bears are tearing it apart, it's all covered in blood. It's all spiderwebs. So it was a completely crazy trip. But we resumed the tradition with another tour guide and we ended up in Croatia. Where in Croatia?

It was... What the hell were we? So it's a split or you're not from Brno? We were split. And we landed, we were first the first country in the split area. That was a tough one. It's nice to have been there before. It's a bit sad. But other countries in the world, Latin America, I'm very satisfied with Armenia and Georgia and Jordan.

I think I just have to dig deeper. Do it. I think it's a great tip. I would like to take my family to Jordan and then I will take a trip to Georgia and Armenia. That sounds good. One thing with Jordan that is really chill is that when you arrive at the airport, you can rent a small box for a portable wifi. You pay for the box and how many GB you want. Then you have it with you in your charger at night, in your bag or in your pocket.

And then you have it everywhere, just like you had in the EU. I actually have a sandbox, but my internet was down, so I bought a mobile wireless notebook. Mobile notebook. I rarely use it, it's in the freezer, but I can't afford it, I can just get it for you. There's nothing here.

It was well worth it. Morten, for a pleasure to have you here. Thank you. A great pleasure. Thank you for the invitation. It has been a kind of honor. And we have been able to dive into the mass of him, of course. But it has been a long and good talk here.

We are clocking in at 1.40, right? It looks like that. At least a little less when the little break is to 1 millisecond, like in Trolldom. Exactly. We write 1 hour 40 minutes and 30 seconds. Something like that. Okay. Thank you for today and thank you for listening. Humor over Oslo is tomorrow, if you listen to this podcast on Friday. And I will be there. You will not be there, because you are in Udseavik.

But it will be a fantastic day, so I recommend, if it gets easier, to buy it and take a walk in the sun, and see the humor, and hang out with beautiful people. Okay, see you soon. Bye! The the the the the the the

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