Fladseth - #234 - Jonis Josef

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

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Yes, I have dropped it. No, it's so wide inside now and then. Why? You met Kurt Nilsen too? Yes, we can talk about that. We can talk about that. Everyone knows that I have sung Kurt Nilsen all year, and it has been a thing. We were in Bryllup, in Berrum. Berrum has called me.

And then we sat there. It was a really nice evening. We almost sat next to each other. Nice bunch of people are sitting there. Nice bunch. It's in great shape. And then... Beier is toastmaster. And then he starts with a bang. And right where we're sitting, he's sitting quite far back, but there's a window staircase right where we're sitting.

Which also seems to be a backstage. We start with a bang. Here is Kurt Nielsen. And then, ladies and gentlemen, I sit, Henrik and I sit face to face, and Kurt comes behind Henrik's back. So Henrik turns his neck, rotates his head, is very much correct. And slides from ear to ear. Of course, everyone was happy. And your girlfriend is so happy on your side. And she is so happy that Kurt is... And I was standing on the room, it was like

Tupac was coming to a black party. And it was like, okay, I'm back. And everyone was like, what? The joy you had in that room. It was just like watching the world class. It was like watching the top. I'm not a big fan, but I don't hate Kurt Nilsen. He's a legend. You were a fan.

You didn't give much to the fat white singers who came on the running track, but he is a legend. I want to have it on this one, Henrik. Fat white singers come on the running track. There's always a new fat man. We talked about them on the show. Lusca Paldi. Teddy Swims. Teddy Swims is the newest one. There is always a crazy white man with the voice of an angel. I think they are really nice.

Kurt Nielsen was the first one. In modern times. He was in opera songs. He has a friend with him. They sing the most beautiful two-stemmed music. It was great. And we were crying, it was a great atmosphere. What was his favorite song? He had She's a White.

That was the last one? That was the last one. And he had other songs. You sang a lot with them too? I sang. You knew the other songs too? I don't remember what they were, but I think I knew them. And just one classic from the 1920s, right? Yes, but I don't remember what they were, but I think I knew them. And then just one classic from the 1970s, right? Yes.

He sang an old song. He has made a cover of it before, you know. But I didn't know it was a cover. So he was done, thanks to himself, goes back up the stairs that he is pointing down at us, and just saying something, but I don't know what it is. And from that point on, it's you who is thinking in the wrong direction. And I am really happy now, because I see... You know, we are good friends, and I see you there. I have heard you sing cool many times, and I think it's a cool moment. Where you, in the way of your relationship, and your girlfriend are happy, I'm happy.

Kurt comes towards us, and the table positions are placed. The table between us and Kurt. It's also the table that Erlend Mørg sits on. Yes, that's it. And that creates a misunderstanding. Because when he comes away, he looks in our direction. And talks about podcasts. And then he says, thumbs up, and and I say, I listen to the podcast.

Yes. And I... And I get so happy on my way to the end. And then I say, Henrik, I'm sorry. Then I say, did you hear what he said? What did he say? He listens to the podcast. And you just, huh? No, no, no, no. He said yes, he said it.

He said, thumbs up, I listen to the podcast. And then I said, are you completely sure? I'm 100% sure. Famous last words, it's 100% sure. And when you say that, when I get to confirm it, it's 100% sure that it was me he turned to, and said, I listen to the podcast, and I'm a big fan. So again, first backstage. From fan to fan.

I'm so in good shape and I'm first backstage and I get up there and they are happy, they are Wow guys! This was a big experience. I have to say hello to Henrik. Henrik, say hello to both of you. And then I say, yes, listen to the podcast. And there is like that adrenaline in those guys. The guy is a big star, but he has a lot of nerves. He's very nervous. It's the industry people. It's a real honor to listen to your podcast. As you know, I've sung your songs all year. This is a real honor for me. This is a real honor. I'm holding on.

It's a strange feeling. I feel it. But before I ask if I've made strange atmosphere, but before I ask if I have taken the wrong decision, the big Erl Mørk comes up. And then Erl Mørk comes up and it's just... BUDDY! Hell! Erl Mørk! And then they are like buddies there, because he has been a guest on the podcast. So it shows that he doesn't know who I am.

And Erl Mørk is his... I just get squeezed out of it. And then I start to say things like that, but after I talk a little bit, I'm like, okay, I understand. But okay, let me explain. I have had a podcast all year, and I have been singing myself into room, and then I explain the whole thing. And he was like, okay, that's cool. So there was a big fadessa up there. It was a huge mess, obviously. But it was a big deal for me, and a big deal for the others at the concert. And everyone knew by then that I came down again, what had happened here. No, because you came down first, we realized that you were up on the hillside,

and then you come down and you say to us, I don't know what to do. And then he cracks the whole word. It was the king. I think Ole So also talked about it in the English VHS. He did? Holy shit Ole So. He told us and asked if we could talk about it. Yes, we can talk about it. Okay, Jørn Lys.

Ole So was disappointed with Bryllup, right? I think he was going to sing Rocketman. The song was backup song like Ariana Grande instead. He had something to anchor a bit. I think he should... People say that... Do they? People don't have false sense of humor.

We are the most wedding-loving people in the world. We have to be able to retell... Therefore you are fucking flat. Yes, therefore I have a good suggestion. But when you have to retell stories in a very good way, if you want to have something to value. The problem for me is that I am so much a humor nerd that when I listen to humor podcasts from Americans and things like that, and they start talking about some specific things like, Oh, do you remember that birthday to him? Then I eat my ears.

Then I think that now I learn something about the dynamic between them. And that is important to me. You eat your ears more often, and you get better. I think that people have it like me, that they think that they should talk about glasses. But they don't care. You can't get lazy. You are right. You have to.

There are flat-set people, or whatever you call it. Flat-set is a surname. I don't have a surname like you do. Yes, but they have a surname. The name of the podcast is your surname. Flat-set Janer? No, just flat-set. What do you call Magnus Birkeland Flat-set?

They put flat-set because you are a... Like you had a nerd... We had nerds, we didn't let them. Yes, but you like it, we love it. You think that every podcast must have fans with their own name. Like Beliebers. No, not necessarily, but I have to clarify what I mean. It's important for me to clarify this.

To take the context into account, you had a podcast with Henrik Farle and Martin Leperøe, and when we had our podcast Halbanan, you would insist, but that was more for the viewers, I think, to call it the Banan Flies. But then it became a real thing. Yes, it became a real thing. And it came, I'm Banan Fly, I'm Banan Fly, and I just... I thought to keep going. But you are a classic-trained actor. I am a classic-trained radio man now. I have been in NRK, I have gone to the degree in NRK. I work in radio. And, sorry, Did you hear that?

No. I'm sorry. I've taken adenobacillus. Is it side effect? I think it's side effect. I think so. It smells like shit. Let people not experience this.

They'll experience it. They have a nice podcast studio here. Sorry to my dear people. I would say Henrik Platseth. He has gone to the glass and is sitting on the floor. You are talking about the smell. It's a very mobile difference. It is, but you are a classic actor. You are a theater actor.

You like applause. That is what you have to go off and then you wait and then you run again. I should have said something against this, but I don't like you saying that it's classic. Maybe it is. Maybe it is. We're both wearing glasses. Maybe it is. I have to be. You are that. I can do a little. I can do a little.

And while you were working on the theater, I went to the hard school on Petre. I was super nice and said, You heard Kygo with Tropical House. And now we're back here in the studio with one who will eat cast-free. We welcome you. That's how we do it. And then you learn a few things. And that is that those who listen to your podcast, they don't know. And they may not be surprised by it, because they are also cool theatre people. Some of them have a little turtlenecks.

I don't think people are the type of people who listen to this? Some of them have heard the name Tertenex, right? I don't think people are theatre people who listen to it. No one. No one of them. It's the people's You spend time on it, you know yourself. I've been around Norway, I know there are a lot of craftsmen who listen to it. I was in one shopping mall in what city was it? Haugesund, I think it was one city in Norway. And in one shopping mall there were two different electricians who had to work on the roof, because there was new stuff on the roof, you know, the floor.

You have the plates you lift up, and there's a lift up there. That's right. There it was. And for two reasons, two different electricians, who just got in touch with me. I had to look up and just, hello, pointed at their ears. Listen to the floor. Two different ones up in the ceiling. But now you have the target group, right?

That gang is the core. How many episodes have you made now? We're going towards 300 now. 300, right? And we've made around 300 episodes. Or is it 400? And the average of the episodes is around 15 minutes? Yes, it's one hour and seven minutes. One hour and seven minutes.

And it's 234 episodes. 234th. So that means that it's over 234 hours of podcast. That people have heard. Is that right? Yes, yes. Over it. And that means that it's over 10 days.

24 hours in one day. That means that it's over 10 days. If you've only had 10 days in your life, you've been the one who's been like... Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah And of course, much better than they know me. I hear them telling me a lot about home and shit about it, and it went well, and now it was cool, and now I'm dead there, and now it went well, and then I paid the bills, and now I didn't. And then I know who I am, but they don't know who I am. And there I feel like I could have a box on...

You know what? I listen to your podcast instead of saying I'm a fan of your podcast. I am one of those, that is, I understand. That's basically what they say. I understand you, and I am part of the group that understands you. Because you have spent 240 hours of your life talking about topics. I get a bit lazy and personal, you know. But I don't think there is a very deep respect. And just in this podcast I have a lot of piss and shit. And it's not that much. I share don't share that much, you know me.

I always say that I'm leaving. You're leaving. If you've heard of Half Bananas, you know that our podcast knows that we call each other for the griner and the fjärtaer. And Jørnis griner-experience. And I'm leaving. And now you notice that something has happened in the system, and you cry out. It has come to that part.

But yes, we have a work, a established thing, and it's not worse than if you listen to the podcast, then you just point at your ears. Either you listen to it in the current moment, or just listen to it as usual. Pointing at the ear, that's... There you go. But that's respect. You hold it a lot. You hold it a lot.

You hold it a lot. You hold it a lot. And then you have to be aware of it too. But I think it's something very like... The personal development that you're talking about. It's not like you're talking about... It's been a lot of fun with the personal development of you actually. It's been a lot of fun with the Buddha statue of you,

in Paris. Who sits like a Buddha. People have that on their heads. It's a flat seat. I usually sit and pray before I go to work. It can be. I have earned some form of personification. It's been, since I was 20, 30, 40 years old, that I have managed to get an insight that makes me spread a bit of real wisdom. And I should be the first to say when I deserve it. And when I don't deserve it. That was smart said, folks!

Right now I absolutely don't deserve any of it, and I don't want any of it. But I know that moment I have done what I deserve, and that wisdom hasn't come yet. No, but I see it. There are too many test jokes to get anything from that person. But it's the theater man who comes in. I was at the theater one day. I watched the theater, which I rarely do. You have to start a class trip. Yes, but I rarely do it, but I think it's fun with that.

But I always come at the end of the theater performance. I always think it's so strange. Because, for example, on stand-up it's like, you did a good show, you did a bad show, and you get an applause. You did a very good show, and you get an applause. And maybe if you did a very good show, they would have been happy. But we talked about this before. To get a standing applause. We get it all differently. We get it all differently. But theater people, no matter how you go with them, they take a book, walk off, and then it's put up... I mean, that I put up a mandatory encore, for me it's absurd. I feel they have to do themselves worthy of that. But that they put it up... Because if I know that now the actor is running behind the door and waiting for the one who is clapping

to run out through the door. It's like that. Actually. I'm a classical school teacher. So I know this. When you work with ball springs, you practice on the doorbell. Don't you? You practice on the doorbell.

Choreograph how to get out and then back in. And nobody says, what if they clap so long? What if they clap okay? Should we run out and insist on one more? Because you can't doubt that. You have to. You have to fall in one more time and then out again. And then one of you takes a assessment. Is there enough applause in the room? And turns on his finger. Let's go guys! And everyone is waiting. No, I don't get it.

And then there's this knife on the stick. Finger on the stick. No, no, no, no. We interrupt. There's not enough applause in the room. I've experienced that it's something that... That you regret? That it's like... That you regret? Yes, that it is like...

That it wasn't worth it. Yes, of course. And there are a lot of actors who experience that. I think that some actors find it hard to give applause, but you also see that there are many who love it. They love that. You have worked hard, and it is often much harder to work as a skater than as a stand-up comedian. If you do a solo show, one hour and 15 minutes full of pressure, which I've actually done now for a year, I'll give you a heart attack, you'll be fucking sweating. I'm sweating like hell.

But to do a regular stand-up, 20 minutes to deliver something, it's not the same as playing with several actors. You are... In three hours you will play that you have lost your child. In three hours you will have lost your whole family. It's very hard work. I hear you say that. And then, you know what you do? And you deserve that. You see the actors go out, and then they fall through the book. They just... Yes, that's when they just... It's so hard!

Yes, they hold on to their knees a little, just like that. And then a deep, deep book, and then they lie in the book. They lie in the book, and then... To get back to themselves, to get out of character. Thank you. It's like, I bend down in the dust. Maybe it's a kind of respect for the audience as well. I am in the dust for you. It wouldn't have been anything without you. I don't know, or it is.

You understand what I mean by lying in the book? Yes, I understand. And when you see people so hard in the book, you think of it as when they just collapse in the heroin crack. That's what it is to be in the book. And this was something we actually had in the fucking flat set. Then we had a thing, because I dreamed of getting a job for something more than just advertising and pissing around. That was the thing. And that's the part of the show that's true, when people are passing by on the truth. That's the true part.

It's true and not true, which is the truth. But the fact that you dream of a different feeling and do a little more high culture, that's of course something you want, but... There's nothing you want, of course, just to make it clear. I can promise you that 90% of the audience

especially the electricians, they don't need to fall in applause. No, not the electricians, but us who are mentally ill and jugglers and don't have the courage to stand up. But that was the thing. And then my most character's dream and wish was to be able to stand on a national theatre and be able to lie in the book. I've seen the big ears. And to be able to lie in the book. And I don't think it came with me. I think it was cut out that I talked about it. But you see, after I've done a dialogue, and I get stabbed, because I'm going to save the devil, right? And then I run to the National Theatre to play the part. You've seen this before, right?

And then I make a dialogue, and then I lie in the book. So I take the book, lie in the book, and collapse. That was a kind of an event that I didn't get to. But lying in the book, that's what I've been through. and collapses. That was a kind of And then I go out and play a song, and I never come back. I have... Like I said before, it was because I haven't heard Half Banan. What happened once was... Can you just tell us what happened? What happened in a short time was a comedian called me, who had debuted Javad from Outlanding Memes.

He was on stage, and then my friend called me and I was ecstatic. And I asked him where he was. He got a standing applause. And I've been doing this for 11 years, I've been feeling rockstar. I've seen Henrik Flats, I've seen Bernd, I've seen people kill it. And not once have I seen the club audience rise and stand. And you try to never stand up. Never. And then Javan from my ex-wife got it on his first attempt.

And I couldn't understand it, and I called people and some confirmed, and some denied, and it's very strange. It turns out that it was his friend who supported him, because they were so impressed. And then my witness was behind them. So he thought everyone was rising. That was his friend who cheered him up, because they were so impressed. And then my witness was standing behind them. So he thought everyone was leaving. That was the problem. And the point is that in our profession we get the applause. And we like to... You don't see it in the theater, that you get applause on the way. We get the applause, and that's our applause. That's exactly it. And we get applause on the way.

And if you have a really bad time, then stop clapping. This was so good, we clapped. They don't do that in theater. Oh, damn. you nailed that dialogue. Wait a minute. Before you continue, let us clap a little. So we get to share the whole thing. And then we get a hard applause at the end. And then it's done.

And then it has been something that I see as the worst. There is a sense of agreement. We don't need to clap and stand again at the end of a stand-up show. We have given the audience a response all the way and a different feeling. But I notice that Galvan's show now. Because he has a kind of a... He says he thanks himself, and then he goes off, and then a video comes up, and then he comes on, and then he thanks himself once more. Yes, he has... Then, as you say, and then he comes on, and then he takes it off again. Then, as you said, you have to practice...

He's a real And then you have the last punchline. And then you say, my name is Henrik Flatseth, thanks for me! And then you just turn off the stage. And then it's like, you gave us... But if you had gone on again after the clap and booked, then you put it up to, now I deserve... Now I want to hear what you think. Now I want to hear what you actually think. I actually had put in a pre-question on a mic drop, an epic mic drop in the show. I didn't think about the cost or anything, but I wanted to, as I always dreamed of, not just the mic drop right in front of me, but I wanted to take the punchline. I had a very clock-like punchline and callback in the show.

And then I just hit the mic into the side-screen. Throw it? Throw the stick into the wall. Like a knife? Yes. But then you can use a splinter and stuff. But then you're a mic animal. You can't do that.

And not only that. It's just so cool. I'm in Kulturus in Aschheim. A guy with a turd-like voice who just goes Hello! And you just BOOM! Throw it into the wall. Thanks for me, guys! I'm fucking explodzchested Snarkus!

Or behind me. I just take a 180 degree, and smack right in the back of the wall. And then I can have a backdrop that takes in some of the support. I was at a stand-up forum the other day, and I read that someone discussed the mic drop. Stop now! I was at a forum,

and the stand-up comic is at a forum. And I'm unfortunately a nerd in the way I'm active. You read the story of micdrop. Not only the story of micdrop, but also what we think about micdrop. Where are we? And people are like, first of all, it's asshole, what do we do about the technique? If there's a microphone for someone else, and you drop it, then you are sold. And then there was one who said at the same time,

And what does mic drop actually symbolize? Which was a good question. What I said now, it was so good, it was so rad, that it just... Mics too hot, people. Boom! And there are no jokes that are good enough to finish it. You just hold the microphone. It's like if you hold a rap concert and you have the last song and you hold the microphone up and the lights go off and you drop it. I understand.

But when you're going to do a little callback bonus at the end and then you just hold the microphone and no joke is good enough. Do you remember how it was when you started with the stand? When you started with the stand, you did it all the time. I was just joking. I didn't like the air. I liked it. It was one of my best evenings. I can also take a little... Jørgen Epa talked about the evening. I was on the ladder, and I was so fucking...

I told Jørgen, I'm so excited about what I'm going to do. I told him that Jørgen was a fucking dog. I'm going to kill it. Follow me now. And then I say to Jørgen, fuck today! Then I'm going to react to it, follow me now. Then I go up on stage and it's just like Bernie Mac He has this one, I'm scared of you motherfuckers, kick it! Have you seen it? You have to see it. It's the top one stand up moment in the world. Everyone has a bomb before him.

Then he goes on stage and says, Y'all don't understand. I ain't scared of you motherfuckers. And I'm like, kick it! And then he kicks it, and it's like a beat, and he's doing jokes, and every time I'm done with my joke, I'm like, y'all don't understand. And then he does it again, until it gets rough.

It gets so funny. So I was on stage, and I fly kicked every joke I had. Come on! Come on! And I punched my own jokes. Is it your style of nervousness? I tend to kick a few times if it's okay to sit properly. You are, can I say that Henrik, you are totally on fire on stage today. Yes, you too.

I'm on fire. I'm trying new things. I think I'm going up and down, but I have at least one bit that starts to sit like shit. That's what people are talking about. This one is up on the wall. It's one of the biggest ones I've had. And wait, I also have something when we talk about Mik Drop. If I close the beat, which I think might be possible, then without spoiling too much, there is a mic drop in the beat. If you remember.

And I'm not spoiling it, but it's just... Then you can mic drop! Then you can mic drop at the end! And then just go. You just have to go around with... Okay, tickets are not out yet. I wish I could... When I come back from New York...

I think I can do a new show in the fall of 2026. Yes, I'm going to be in the fall of 2025. I'm going on a trip. No big cities. I'm going to the first show in many years. You can do that. I haven't announced the title of the show yet. Before now? I can do it now.

I will have a premiere on a show called Cactus. Cactus! It will be released in October. I will be in all small towns in Oslo. The poster should be that you are an animated cactus with those faces. I was thinking of taking pictures with our photographer in the environment, Christian Vastiansen. Me and him are going out in the city center, and I plan to take a picture there. I thought I would have a... I think I got a message from God today that I have to do it.

The idea is that I want to take a picture of myself with a film, 50mm, where you see that it's a film. And then get it drawn over 35mm away. And then you get a drawing over 35 mm away from him. And then you get a drawing with a cactus, like Bjarne Melgård. Yes, I've heard of him. And then today he's a psychiatrist for ADHD. Yes. Who's in the process? Melgård?

Yes. Oh my God. And I try to greet him. Is it Kim Ponsnackma? No. He has problems in his head. He has a lot of problems. He has some health problems.

I'm in New York, you know. A friend who is in New York. I worked for him. Yes. He has some problems with his brain. I was in New York, a friend of mine who was in New York, working for him. And I asked him how he was. He said, Bjarne Melgaard. And I asked him how he was. And he said, Oh man, he loves meth and black dick. And I saw it on him. I was like, you know, someone who gotten too much meth and too much black deck,

and sits on the other side and says, maybe I'll just try to get rid of the line as well, like Restla. Damn, you've been completely covered in the cold of life. Meth and black... But that's the question. I think it's going to be different. I think if you take drugs, then if you take drugs for those who have take drugs, then you are fascinated by central stimulative drugs. When you enter the meth world, coke world and speed world. If you have tried it, you will notice that there is a 3 in 1 bit that is really cool.

Where it's like, Weed will make you lose your way home. And cocaine will make you lose your way to heaven, he says. And what you often notice when people are good at central stimulation, whether it's meth, coke or speed, it's always like, they are rock bottom. And you always say, what? And you say, okay. It just keeps going, and you're like, oh, that's just how it goes. But on the other things, it's always like, I got scared, I have to stop.

It's never a catalysator episode. No, it's a violent drive. And you see the bears standing there complaining that they were tricked. They tricked me for everything I had. And then the other people are like, we didn't do that. They didn't trick the fagpiness. We did it ourselves. No, the bear is good as fuck, he has problems. Okay, half the banana, which we have talked a lot about. We have enjoyed ourselves, it's still out there.

It's still out there on the app. Now we don't get paid, so I won't give you the code. We don't have enough of it. You have to check out the website. If you listen to Berger på Beier or any of those shows, we are in the catalogue. And I, as a listener, can listen to this. Because you have to know that he has a lot of respect for you. He really... You don't know what kind of fights he's fighting for you in the back room, in the kitchen. Do you understand how many have tried to get him to take a break from this podcast? There are so many who have tried.

And he just... He's always standing there, he's like... I have a contract with Flatsettene. Flatsettianane. Flatsettianane. And they should have... And he's really serious about you. Yes, because of the thing with NRK, for example. The And then you have to stop it. I said, fuck, I'm not going to stop with this! This is crazy! They also tried to put half a banana in it, but it was just like that.

And that was great. We're not going to say much about the process, but right now, we're not going to put half a banana in it. I'm going to add something here, since this is an independent and nice podcast. Me and Henrik, if you've screwed up the episode, it's fine. But those of you who have heard so far, hopefully like me and Henrik in two-span here.

And we have made half a banana, and if we are allowed to make more of them, we will do more of them. But if not, I would like Henrik and I to make something on the open platform, like Flatset, which is an additional product. So if you want to have more Flatset to do with me, just spam Henrik until he sees that it's a really, really good idea. And we had... It was really good people. Damn, we had a lot of fun. We shared, we didn't share. We shared from the innermost basement. And you were with me in the middle of that heartache,

and helped me cry and get rid of it. They paid us way too little for the album. It's called Half Bananas as you understand, but you should have put a sticker on it. Because damn, I'm starting to get nervous. But you got it opened, that's nice. I needed a little. What's cool, Jørnis, is that you have moved over the dam and are going to be put internationally. Over the Atlantic!

You felt that you needed something more. And you know what? I respect you and I also miss you. Do it! Thank you! I think most comedians in Norway think that once it would have been cool to try and try. And try as much as possible. Once it would have been cool to try and try and test if it is possible at all. And then life and children come and everything, and then it goes by. But it's very cool, because I see some of the older comedians who are 50 plus, stand-up guys. Not TV guys with stand-up guys.

And I notice that when they talk to me now, it's almost like they take me... It's like I've been to a youth club, and there's always a criminal guy who has become an environmental worker. And he's like, listen to me, he's very like, don't do this, do this. So they have a very retrospective energy, you know? And I get that from the older people. They all just meet me with respect. And they say the same thing. They just say, had I been your age, and if I knew anything, I would have done more.

It's a bit of a pain to tell you. If you know the stand-up game over there, it's a bit different. Here in Norway we are privileged, but it's not that far to the big gigs. It's not a in Norway, we're not that far away from the big gigs. No. It's not a coincidence over there. No. And the reason I'm going a bit is that unfortunately, things happen in Norway, because there's so little environment.

If you get up and prove a little, you lose... I'm not going to say this for myself. I lost a part of the motivation and drive, because I felt like I was crushed by the adults I was crushed by. And then I felt like the ceiling was higher. Argo, you understood something very strange in me. So I was thinking like you have thought, that in the course of my life I really want to challenge myself and go to another place than Norway and see how it goes. And then I considered England, London, Los Angeles, Austin, where I have comedy mothership with Joe Rogan and so on. And then New York. But then I realized that if I do well in London, or if I do well in London, we are regardless of whether we want to go to the US. LA is a bit for people who make TV and movies and such. It wouldn't have been easier for me if I had been in the Almena, because I made TV and such in Norway.

Austin has the thing called Kill Tony, because if you don't know it, it's Tony Hinschley, the text writer for Joe Rogan, who has a show called Kill Tony, how much is it? One minute. But the problem is that they have become anti-woke. So there are a lot of people who try to be edge-lords. So they have gotten very bad reputation in the American stand-up-surface. Like Austin comedians. So New York is the last stop where it's difficult to prove yourself. It's high-level. And it's the best meetings there.

And it's edgy enough as hell. It's edgy enough, but it's not... It's not edgy enough. And at the same time, the brand that was there was just... How big it is. You come down and suddenly it's like... Today there are 200 shows in the city. You have six big stage clubs, but you have 40 other big stage clubs. And you have 100-200 other bars that have shows.

So there are just so many. And everyone there works at a high pace. So we, for example, we write maybe more than them, because we have fewer people who watch us, we have to write more often. Here in Norway, yes. While the Americans write better than us, because they work with one joke, 100 times in the course of a month. While we don't have that opportunity. So you have to notice that they are tighter than us, they have developed the material better than us. And that they don't have that much audience.

The biggest clubs have audience, but all the other clubs have a lot of comedians. And to stand in front of them is brutal. You have to stand in front of a lot of other comedians who have been waiting for their turn. You told us a lot of fun. You worked so hard to get them to laugh. And one of them gave you a little experience. Very. What was the deal? The deal was that I came up on the mic stand at the start, put my name in the middle of the bed, and then I'm up there standing and making stands for a lot of people sitting in a room.

I have a Norwegian energy, so I come up and go like this. Hey, how are you guys doing? And they were like, dude, just come out of your fucking jokes. And I try to get the comedians to laugh or get them to get involved. But people just wait for their turn. And then it was brutal the first two or three weeks. And then I sat down, and a guy comes up to me and says, Oh, Søtta, what do you mean? And I'm like, Oh, I'm so good to see you. And he's like, Really?

I'm like, I'm sorry, I didn't mean anything. And then he says, I didn't hear one laugh. What do you mean? I was like, what do you expect? Do you want to like, do you think this was like a river in Arius? Like it's just a Russian republic? He's just a comedian waiting for his turn. There's no point in having a good response here.

The point is that you should just practice the joke. And it annoys me, practice the joke. Practice the text. Do it in front of the mirror at home, for fuck sake, what's the joke about that? Practice in front of the... and then you have to stand in front of people. But stand-up is alive, it happens in the audience meeting the comedian. I totally agree. And what you see is... I also think it's a problem if you stand too much like that.

Because if you stand in front of only comedian-comic, it becomes like Mark Norman, who is a comedian who is very famous. But when you see him standing in front of the audience, he doesn't look like a single person. He just looks blank, steers blank out of the room and just acts like he is a monologue. Thanks to him I can walk away. And the reason I respect him and like him is that he is good, but I can't become his fan. I can't become a big fan. But if you see Louis C. Kane, like him, he has an open mic energy on Comedy Cellar.

I've seen him three times in the last few months. And then he goes up with a notebook, he sits down and just works one and one and one bit, and just takes live notes and goes off. And works on something very... So it exists. And I noticed that after five weeks I finally got to stand in front of an audience. And then I realized, it's been a long time since I've cut myself. I got a new look. Four hours before the show, I went on a tour for several hours just to get my head in the right place. No joints, just completely... Just like the first gig I did here at Justif Ines.

I was new cut, new, I invited my friends. It was big, the gig I did. I remember year 3, where I invited my friends and they were like... ... home. And I was like, my life doesn't matter if they're my fans. Friends fall fast off the stage. Because in the beginning they do the same jokes, and then they are like, twice maybe, and then we've done that. And then they say six years later, damn, we got new stuff! What do you think? But it's been very cool to try and challenge myself a bit, and now I notice that I have a little momentum,

so I'm going back tomorrow, since the episode is coming on Friday, I'm going back tomorrow, and then I'm going to do some auditions at some clubs. I'm going to be with some comedians in Minnesota that I've known. So I notice that I probably won't be any superstar, it's important to say. I won't be a superstar. But if I'm going to give myself a hard time, I want to be passed by a club in the summer. And then I want to, on the tour I'm going to do with cactus, I want to have in a club during the summer. And then I want to...

On the tour I will do with cactus, I want to have an American stop. Or a spot in New York. It's cool to have the opportunity to travel around with stand-up. And people do that from time to time. Maybe more than that. If you want, you can go to Sweden, you can do it in Norwegian of course. Or just around in different places in the world. I was booked to Copenhagen, not in Fjord with Forefjord.

Then I took the property as a warm-up. Then I was booked to the Vegas scene. Pretty cool. There was a huge poster above me. It said, Jørnis Josef, Sunday, podcast 5. I thought, who is coming to the show? 70 people in the audience. 70 Norwegians? No, 40 Norwegians.

And the last 30 were like... What you forget sometimes is that we have a standard culture in Norway that is quite famous-focused. Yes, very. But down there it's like, I can set up... And there are some who get angry. Okay, who is this... It's the bigger place.

So it's like, you know, stand-up on a Sunday, so we just check it out. There's a guy from Norway who has come, we should check him out. So I had a Dutchman, a guy from Argentina. And you do it in English? At first I started by asking how many of you only speak English, half of you. Then I switched to Norwegian and said, Okay, guys, now I'm going to do a show for you.

How do you dress? Just believe me, I wouldn't have done it if I didn't have to. And then it got fun. Then I would suddenly say a Norwegian word. What is that in English? And then you help me with that. But it was a pretty fun show too. But then I noticed that there is at least a possibility to do things abroad.

And it doesn't have to be sustainable, it doesn't have to be economically profitable. It's just a pallet cleanser, you know? Because you really have to be grateful for what you have in Norway. The best way to be grateful for what you have in Norway is to get pig-eating outside of Norway. And then it's just like, damn, it's really nice to be here. So he did it. I did an open mic in front of no one, and then I was on Spectrum with Martin from 7000 probably. Yes, because you warm up in Spectrum and the lip-radar shows. And that transition from Nord to 7000, it's pretty hard.

You did a very good job there. Thank you. New York tight! Yes, it was very tight. I'm very happy to say that. No, but there is a lot of... One thing I want to say, we were at Nate Borghese together. With the cellars on...

All the warm-ups are sucked, right? Yes, he had it with him. It was like a level of confirmation. He had his best friend and his father, who is not a comedian. He was called the father. I'm exaggerating a little. But what's crazy, when we talk about celebrity-focused, Nete Baghezi is one of the...

He sells out stadiums and has become super famous. Very broad comedians, very sharp and comical, very broad and very talented. He has good versions. But there he fills the center stage twice and fills it like a day show, as an extra performance. And then he does a show with a list of notes and tests out the material, like we do on rehearsal, he does that twice on stage. And it's also filled in in Norway, who has seen him on Netflix. It's very true. There's a lot to say. It would never be good if an unknown from Denmark came and did the same in Denmark. So we have something to work on. We have that, but at the same time it's what makes it so fun to be with these guys.

As Nate said, right now I can fill the arena without having a specific show. And I can fill out big theater halls and big arenas as the center stage. And then he takes his friends with him so he can play golf with them. And you notice that the group doesn't really care about... If you see, he got some criticism from Gatsy, because he's talking about... It was Nate, Nate Land, or something like that. He has a couple of people with his crew. And the whole crew is white men between 45 and 55, with a skull and skin.

And all right handicap in golf. All right handicap in golf. And they have either an Italian name or an American name. Either Monsenso Mozzarella or Jan Jackson or whatever. Joe Pecorino! Joe Pecorino! He's on tour. And you really feel it. And then it was so damn good, because I sat sitting with you, Kjeldrup and Dag Søraals, and I'm looking at them.

And then comes the white man number two, who is totally crazy. And I whisper to Dag and I say like this. And you are very against quoting. Look at that! This is an alternative, Elise. Finally, we have a show where we don't have to quote a woman and black guys. And there are only four people with good handicaps and jackets, who tell the same jokes in five different ways. We thought he was on the guest list, because the group was supposed to warm up. But then he got ditched. He is the most... Oh, do you have a 50 year old white man? Of course, Christopher.

That's so funny. He slipped right into the... But it was... It's like saying that there is the possibility to practice. It's our future, hopefully. You can do big shows in Norway, and travel around. I think it's a bit interesting. I'm actually looking forward to seeing other comedians have a test show. I've watched a lot of their shows, from Dave Chappelle to... A lot of them have come to Norway. Dave Chappelle also does a test show in Spektrum. And it's just shit, right? It's interesting, but I miss that the gang is more straight forward. I'm honest about being a test show. Can't you be in a clear text test show?

Dag had a good observation on that yesterday, and I agree. The Americans, the Brits are very show show. While the Americans don't travel around with shows. They travel around with headliners and make a set for their special recording. So they don't travel around with... Like, Bill Burry doesn't travel around with drop dead years. They do a lot of different bits, and when he's recording, this is the best time now. So then you get less red thread, but you get more jokes.

Yes, I understand that without any comparison. I do it myself. I traveled around with Jørgen and Josef for an hour on the road, together with Snorre and Gaute. I called it a long title. But that was the premise. I traveled for an hour on the road. There is more permission to try to fail a bit. Yes, and then it was that too. So very low shoulders. You notice the audience was very receptive to you. You, I'm afraid and hope that you just get lost. That you just blow away. If you get lost, we'll see. It would be nice if I could able to work in Norway again. Just to do some big things and leave.

So Viggo and his friends have gotten rid of the German... what is it called? Germany got talent. I told Viggo, I told him to do something, to do something far from the West. And to do the next song. But it's still... Message not received. You have to do something far from the West and make the next number. But people still see it. And I think, maximize it. But the problem is, the problem with Viggo, and we are just in love with Viggo. But the problem is, do you get out of the West?

Don't you get broken of the vest? Don't you get stuck in the vest? You get really big in the vest. It's like Alexander Rybak now. And he doesn't have his own belt. We wait for you, we know you're coming, we know you're coming. Oh, there it is! And you have the big thing you always have to live up to. The biggest thing, and I'm not a big that yet, but he has a very broad appeal here, and he does big shows and such.

But you have several big comedians that just reach the ceiling, like Steve Martin or Eddie Murphy, who are're too big for yourself. Now you're that character. Something Eddie Murphy said that I'm fascinated by. He said he was going to do stand-up again, but I completely understand that he didn't. You shouldn't do that. No, because at the same time you have this it's impossible to live up to what you've done.

It's impossible. It can't be done. You can have ten of the best text writers and stand up comedians on your team, and you can practice it in it, but it can't be done. And reach the heights you've reached. And then you know that everything you do now is just a sack of... ...another job. And then just let it be and think that you've peaked. Messi doesn't need to play in Barcelona again. It's chill for Vigo, and he enjoys himself like hell. There are a lot of things, but he's out in the world. I'm so proud of him. I remember it interesting. When I debuted with Stand Up, we went through a tour of the Comiklub. Vigo and I had our debut at the same time. I had it. I remember that he did stand-up comedy. He always says that. He is so into stand-up comedy.

And I am like, so into you, who can make everyone from 5 to 8 years old feel tight and smile. That's nice what we're doing. Everyone has their thing. 8 years younger to just feel tight and smile. It's nice what we're doing. Everyone has their thing. Everyone has it. And as I usually say, and as I've always been important to me, I don't give a shit about your material, the hack or if it's like simple stuff. As long as you're an all-out person.

As long as you're a good person, you can do whatever the fuck you want. Then I can sit and watch a show, and not the people who think it's fun, but I laugh and I clap. Come on, do your thing. And be a good person. Because I've always been like this, if I see someone in the universe I don't like, I can't talk to them. I get very weird, I disappear and so on.

And then I say that I haven't seen them. Even if you saw me in the me, I was in the bathroom. I was like, it's so weird. Because I'm so afraid of the fist bump. I think you did a good job. And then I did a bad job with the same fist bump. You understand? But then there was a comedian I met. And he said, I have a solution to this trick.

Because I had the same problem. He said, if you see something you really think sucks, then you have to eat for that trick. Because he had the same problem. If you see something you really think sucks, you have to look deeper. And find something that... Was there one thing you liked? Was there a way he held the microphone? Was there one premise? Was there just one thing you liked?

And then you can add compliments for that. Otherwise you can be honest that you sucked today, but you can add some compliments for that. Yes, or you can be honest that you're thirsty today, but you can give some constructive criticism. If I'm friends, then. But if people don't know, I have to... Because what I've noticed is that if I give friends constructive criticism, then it has some meaning, but if I give people who don't know constructive criticism, and that's what I look at as the most pleasant.

If I see someone on stage and I think, if I come over there and they say, you dropped something in the opening and just straightened the juice, because you're much more fun than the opening. It's a great tip to get. If people get angry at that, then fuck it. It's not just that, but it's a great tip to get. But what you notice is that, sometimes people can hear it and think, oh I don't like it.

Or they can hear it and don't understand that, this is me who digs you. Yes, but if you can't understand that things are meant to help, then it's their problem. But you don't beat around the bush when you need to give people tips. No, I don't usually do that. I know you have a lot of need for that. Yes, I just like it very much not to have any responsibility in life. I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can't... I can reasons, but much because the more days I sit here and talk to people, the better I get. The better my hologram becomes. Hologram. Like in the old Star Wars movies, I saw Hologram for the first time.

It was great. You just get... You get Obi-Wan Kenobi up there and just... What I'm sorry for, Henrik, is that... I'll explain this. AI and hologram, that's just an average of what you've delivered. The more you explain on it, the more you get better at putting out more retouched pictures of yourself in six pack. If you don't risk finding yourself in the worst form, forever, just a little loose with a thin belly and thin legs. Is this how you present him now? I become like the French king who is so involved as the raccoon who sits and looks at the whole thing and eats cakes in the bathroom.

And you hear Kurt Nielsen and his terrible clown face. It's fun. I've thought about that a couple of times. Like now, what's nice about being who we are is that, as you say, if you manage to become iconic before AI gets big, that flat set, that you are like a lifehuster, that you just have to be like, Oh, should we do something, Henrik? Flat set. That's really the rumble in your head. Then you know that people will be like, we want to make a stand-up show based on the stuff you have, can we publish this? And you just have to accept it and live for the brand for the rest of your life.

That has to be nice. Because that's actually true. One thing is that people talk about, can AI replace the comedian? I doubt that. But the comedian can replace the AI on the computer, the comical can up or down the thumb to a whole new product made by an AI based on who you are. That is a lazy comical dream. I realized a lazy comical dream today. I thought how can I write, I I could write a... I wanted to write a... I sounded stupid, but I wanted to write a really romantic one. Everyone has that, Jørnis. Everyone has that?

Yes, but we all have that. I think about that sometimes, but damn... Buddy, do you know what I did? You got an AI to... I had on my headset, my microphone, talked to AI. First chapter. I'm to AI. First chapter. And talks to me through the whole chapter. And at the beginning, it's like that. And then it's like that.

And then it's like that. Boom! Nice, now I know. It's not like it describes the form, but it structures everything I say. And if it's like this, then it means I use AI. It everything I want to have. And then I was like, if there is something like this, then it means I use AI.

Then it means I have a premise. Can you just make the premise? I value taking the premise there, there, there, there, there, there, there. Present your document to me tonight. I have on the list that I will really start integrating AI in everything. But I have something that keeps me back. I'm afraid of it. I'm afraid to go in there, because then there is no way back.

But I understand it very well. I notice that in Juicy Produce, we make production stuff, a little production house. And then I just sat there a few thousand kroner, just to see all these AI tools and start working. And then I found out one that was called Opus, where you film the podcast and then people talk. Usually you send the video to a editor and then you have to cut it. That link, that link, that link, that link, that link. And keep going through the whole thing. It takes an hour or more.

Then you can just go to the office and just click on auto-cut. And then just do it. Those things are totally crazy. And that's what I think. And it's what I think. And it's something that most people use as well. I've thought of it as a research word. I'm going to write a bit.

I have one good observation about horse-riding. And I like the idea that as they did in the past, a editor who just Hans! You call everyone! Like... Kjersti! You go from door to door, in every way! I want an AI that only goes...

I want all fun facts on Flodesk. I want history, biological evolution, a line. I think I'm three doing this for three weeks now. I can lie in bed and say to myself, Jørgens, what are you going to do today? Today I've been sent a fucking e-mail that I haven't been sent. I know you're going to start it for me. I want to formulate a DVD.

I know you're going to book a medical team for me so I can finally do it. And then you'll clean up my calendar. If I have something between 12 and 3, send an email and let me know. And find out what I'm going to have for dinner. We're there. We are! It's our time now. It is. But we have to incorporate it properly.

Properly! Yes. I notice that I'm going to... I can't say what it is, because it's secret. You can say that you are going to... I'm going to that. I'm going to that. And I'm going to the TV-recording tomorrow. He's going to be a surprise at the game. They're going to vote him in, so he can come in there as a wild card.

He and Martin Lunde, because they came in such a great preparation. It's so good that Martin Lunde is sitting there like an oracle now. What the hell, you You smoke first two times? What are you talking about? It's clear who of you two won the public... ... when she won the public. Yes, yes, because she... Jesus, I'm getting upset.

But okay. What are you talking about? You smoke first two times? Oh, she hates me. It's so fascinating to watch. I'm just making fun of you. It's so fascinating to watch. I was going and enjoyed it. It's so fascinating to see. Because I was going to look at her and people were like, what the hell have you done to her?

And I was like, he's just too good-tempered and doesn't care. That's exactly it. I didn't know a shit. When we look at the game now, I understand everything about how much allusions and so on. This year they only film that. Last year I felt they filmed a bit of me having fun. But it wasn't anything crazy. People started making allusions and stuff.

I wasn't even with it for a second. I didn't understand any of it. You were sitting with a high-class guy at home. No, it was a young fetus. It was a apartment we were buying. That was a bit stressful. Okay, so I have some hair there, so I just need to have some things to get there.

I'm hungry, I need to pee a bit differently. But it was really nice that we got to catch up. We have met a lot of people who have been back in Norway. Now you're going back tomorrow when this episode comes. I'm going back tomorrow when the episode comes, so then I'm in the US. And then I'm going on tour in August. How to announce it in the end of April. But you heard it first.

Cactus, welcome. And then I'll find him. I'll fix it. You had a bad day. We were in the savannah recently. You killed it. On the last show. I felt it. You were on the I have a bank with episodes. It's Easter holiday and I have to do a lot of things without a bus. I don't have time to make podcasts. But episodes are sent weekly anyway.

What are you going to do without a bus? Some TV stuff. You're playing stuff? I'm playing Reunion. Your own episode with you and Martin in the shelter. So you know that the episodes that are coming are played in for a while. But that's pretty cool, right? It's a good episode with you and Martin in the Bergland and I are talking. Bergland is a very fun person. Bergland complains about content if it's boring. So I said, what's the coolest thing you ever talked about? That's what we're talking about.

That's fun. Then we talked about the Russian Revolution. I think it's half an hour. That's awesome. He delivers so much. Can he talk so much about it? He can talk so much about it. I learned a lot, so you have to look forward to it.

I'm actually going to talk to him about that. Listen to this person. I'm going to do it. to look forward to it. I'll talk about that. Listen to this person. I'll do it. Okay, thank you for today, and we'll talk. Bye! The modern media are you an English person for a talk or a little bit of a blabla the super-enquil friendship