Fladseth - #238 - Francisco Briceno

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

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If you have a company, you should not have a regular bank. You should have Folio. Yes, let's just get started. Francisco Breseno, back in the studio, back in the podcast room. Back. Now I have one more. As we said, I know it's been a long time since we last talked about this, and if we skip any topics... If there is one damn person out there who remembers what we have talked about, the word, and then can go in and say, Yes, this is... Oh my God, are we going to talk about this again? Congratulations to you. Francisco, I also have to... We also talked about it, but I have to say this to the listeners as well. We are playing this episode now, which will be released in a while. But you are still more relevant with a show when it's still being released than it is now. Yes, so that fits me.

Yes, that fits you very well. You will have a solo show on May 9th. May 9th on the news. And it was a kind of cross… not cross-examination, but cross-comic collaboration. Yes. You released a promo a while ago. Yes, that's right. A crossover episode. A crossover. Bergland. It's an art exhibition, a museum of Vigland.

A historian is talking about what's on the wall. And then he suddenly smashes into a car. And then there is an extra performance on the Dead and Alive by Dr. Bergland, and then he continues with his art analysis. And then you play a... An exhibition, you could say. An exhibition, yes, an exhibition. You play a... someone who is looking at this guided tour.

Yes. And I'm just asking, what did you just say? I didn't say anything special. I said, you said something about Berglund. I didn't have anything to do with that. And then you dig into it, because he has to admit that he pulls his skin on his face, and then it's Berglund Udener. And he was a promo for his show. And then comes the turning point, where he says,

you are also a comedian, Francisco Berseno, you also have a show. Do you want to say something about it? And then you say something, and then comes Bart Tufft, and you have a wig there, and I can say something about it. It's great. Yes, it was fun. All props to Berglund. It was his idea. He is a… A good guy. A good guy?

Yes, and he is a doctor. But that he was a genius when it comes to pro-women, I didn't know that. The last one was good. The one with Kåli. I remember that. I've seen him in several. What is your show called? Fet Hupe? Fet Humor. Fet Humor, yes. Fet Hum humor. Yes. What can we expect?

You are a very good comedian. Many people say that you are a very one-liner comedian. I don't think so. I try to develop my jokes so that they are more than one-liners. So it feels more fluid, so it doesn't become like... But they are very short. They are. You have other one-liners, like the one-liner comedian, for example... You have Jimmy Carr, who is very one-liners, combined with crowd-working.

Then there is this guy, what's his name, the rabbi-gast? Jesnik? He looks more like him, maybe? Yes, he is a bit longer. But my stage character is not as strict as his. Or angry and evil basically. Or I say a lot. Cocky. Yes, cocky. I am a bit cocky. But I am also a bit absurd. I feel like I am trying to be something between Mitch Hedberg and Jesselnik. That's a big name when you hear it. What can I say?

But it's true. What can I say? Comedians don't understand me anymore. Yes, right. It's worse. Yes, absolutely. No, but I think it's totally weird. I think it's recommended on the hottest recommend it on the hottest. 9.10.

Thank you. Come on. No, May. 9.10. Oh, that's great. I'm sure people will meet up all day. I have some on my block today. Yes. We are going straight in. We know we did that last time, so we are not going to get angry now, is that we covered up the chiles. Yes, there were a lot of chiles stuff.

And you had to answer as well as you could. And as I said, I know no one who can answer that better than you. And you are not going to get into that anymore. I got the mouth of my sister, why didn't you say this and that? I don't know what they are called, or I know what they look like, and I eat them and get them, but I don't know how to translate it into Norwegian. That's what I like about podcasts, and what I think is the art of holding a good podcast is that path to the phase in a way. Because the path there, and I may have had it in the background, but I haven't been able to get the clear text for myself, is that the path to the goal is everything with podcasts. So on the way to find the food, you guarantee something else?

Yes, yes. But that's life in general. That's what they always say. What do they say again? Yes, they say, the way to the goal. The way to the goal. The way to the goal is a term for the end of the word, but is it the best thing that has been said? The best thing that has been said? The best thing that has been said? Absolutely. The way is the goal. I don't think so. There is one thing that is better than that.

That has been said before. That is more correct than that. The way is the goal. Listen to that. Do you think there was a discussion before? Some said that the goal is not the goal. Yes, guaranteed. No, no, that's the way. It sounds great, but it's completely wrong. The goal is the goal. But there are probably two schools there, I don't think many people think that it's the floating shit.

The goal is the goal. Productivity, result, goal. The way to the goal is like if it doesn't work, you can say it to yourself. But the way is the goal. Yes, I hear... No, I haven't heard what you said, because I've started thinking about my own thing. You're thinking about your own thing. Yes, I often hear people talking. I hear a lot of different podcasts, even though I'm not necessarily a fan of the environment. and I am both a bit against his values and his opinion, and I think it often becomes very strange conversations, very name-binding conversations. But I think it is important to find a lot of joy in hearing people who are a bit against the talk. And then you often have controversial figures sitting in the studio, which you may disagree with,

but I think it's completely wrong to just look for one field of opinion. But there I often hear the guys talking, and then I notice that they have a completely different view of the world. I have heard about Volkan V and Erl Mörk, who became a political editor in the Aftenposten, and wrote a very crass article about him being a spokesman for Putin. Who is it? Volkan V. He was a Very pro-Russian group. When I heard that episode, it took the starting point in the conversation Wolfgang W had with Erl Merck. Wolfgang W talks about... I am completely ungrateful when I talk about this with success. That you have been swimming in success, with so many numbers, and so popular. I get completely frozen when I think about how to measure life in those parameters. I don't recognize that. I think you are a bit like that. You also measure the way, but you have to be good, you have to follow the parameters that are about flash in success.

Yes, absolutely. I totally agree with that. So I actually think there you. So there are actually two schools there? Yes, yes, yes. But I just read, okay, maybe I'll read a philosopher now, who said that now freedom is exploited. Before you had some kind of strictness, if you don't do this and that, you are punished. But now it has come into your head and you do it against yourself. And the freedom we have, we only use it to be productive, as they want us to do. As he wants us to be. But I don't think he has anything bad. He is sitting on the stage, he has been obligated to sit on the tower. And maybe he comes from an environment that is more concerned with the success, that you should have a respected reputation, earn a lot of money. having success in some way, you don't want to appreciate it. And you don't want to chase that freedom, you want to use that freedom to stress yourself, to get to an ideal that you don't really care about.

Absolutely. I've heard a story about an author who has been to a party, I don't remember which author it was. And it was a party where two authors were sitting, and the party was for a guy who was rich, he had a lot of money. And one of the authors said to the other, the guy here earns more in one day than you earn in your bestselling book. So he said, yes, but I have something he never comes to have. So he was there and said enough. And that's a bit like that. That's interesting. We are in a kind of this with capitalism and in a way it is growth, that everything should be in a way. It's crazy how damn it goes here. It is. And when you look at people today, sometimes you just think how sick it is that we are here now in this sci-fi environment. We walk with these... one thing is clothes and things, we walk with all the gadgets we have and all the electronics we have and such. It was like, our adventure, hunting.

And one thing is that you have different types of... I mean, in South Korea for example, I saw a documentary from there. I think it was that documentary series for Sven, Sun and such, which went on the screen. They took a break from all the screens and shit. Then they were in South Korea, and there it is totally wild. Totally wild. You have red and green light, it's not where we have it here in Norway. It's on the ground, because everyone can see their phones. So you have to have a green light.

And just that we have entered this track in such a short time, it says something universal, it says something about how big changes can happen with thinking beings. Because for many years it went very slowly with the development, right? And that was because, and suddenly it has almost come to such exponential growth. So it says something about how far a civilization can go in space. Because given that there are many other thinking beings out there, and civilizations, there are also many other thinking beings out there, and civilizations, there are also many other experiences. And we have gone the way we have now.

And largely we are very similar to other high-tech communities on earth, but with some differences. But think about what could happen if this storm continues for thousands of years. It could happen in a very, what should I say, very deep, fascist, upside groups, in large gatherings, we are so damn... We are so damn reluctant to bow down to such hierarchies and... And... And... And from the Nesystems.

That we... It happens, something happens in the revolution, but often we just find ourselves in a shit. But sometimes it happens and it comes to the touch. It may come to an end if it is too... It always happens in the end. But say that the most powerful people in the world get the machines on their team. And the drone is scared, because then you don't have anything human. It's not like the military just join the people's team. Then the machine is not thinking, or not feeling beings.

And then it gets even more dangerous. Then it can go in the right direction. But think that, say that the people take over the shots again. And that we go in a completely different direction. We go more back to basic. We say that people take over the to the future. It's as sick as if someone from the eight hundred's came here now and said ok, what the fuck is going on here? Imagine how sick it is there. And then we come to the future, and it's not what we were afraid of. It's completely free. People are lying around and lying with each other everywhere. We are doing shit with our skiers of ours, they are just standing there empty, hanging out, and then it starts to grow again. We hang out there and take helmets too. We can, yes.

And if you look at other planets, you have bonobo apes that just lie around, that's the only thing they do. Yes, we are some kind of sluts. And of course they don't find that much rockets and shit. They have a lot of chill. They have a lot of chill. Maybe they travel a lot inside, maybe they take psychedelics and stuff. Why do you need rockets if you have a lot of women and chill and stuff? What are you going to do with a rocket? No, and then you think, maybe there is a natural disaster that is causing us to be exhausted, but then...

Yes, then it's just... We are not that important. Yes, but if you travel to another planet, it's basically like getting to a place where there is a disaster. It's nothing else in the other planets if we know about it. No. That far? Is it like we are happy to get there? No, this will be very hypothetical.

It's not a given that we will ever get in contact with other civilizations. No, it's not. It's called Fermi paradox. Fermi paradox? I can't... It's almost silly to be the one who explains what it is, but it goes on that there is potentially a lot of life out there, but the distances are so big that it is in's paradox that we don't know about each other. In a way, it's something that's there.

But can't it be that there is life in another planet, but we can't see it? Yes. In a way, if we had seen ourselves, we would have been just atoms. And it would have been just atoms. And it would have looked like dust with that perspective. When we see another planet, it looks like dust, but maybe with another filter. Then it's life. Wow, now I feel like John Rogan. Wow!

Wow! If you have the most clear understanding of what life can be, then we can open the door and get a lot of stuff. But it's true that we have learned to look at the world as we see it now, through the evolution, because it is unnecessary to see everything, we just see a little bit. And we see in no way what this table is made of, what we have actually made of. And I think that in no way we want to see that either. If you start to see that, it's quite uncharming. Or very fascinating. But it's just a perspective.

Isn't that what's most real? Yes, that's it's not the real thing. For us it's how we see each other now. And you know, we are completely... I think we are quite... Because there is so much culture that underlines how we, through our human beings, see things. So we understand that we see things quite the same, but no one sees things quite the same. But it might well happen that life on another planet far out there has its evolution and sees the world around us in a different way than we have learned to see it. It's a very interesting thought. Yes. It's a very interesting thought. know that we don't have a clue where this ends. And we see the potential we have, or potential that is there,

or how it can potentially go very fast in a certain direction. But do you think there is a final point? Maybe it doesn't last long? Yes, it does. Because there is such a big universe of forces, so things can be totally excluded. And then we want to take other directions, but then we go back to basics. Then we go back to... we say that the sun explodes, or just attracts the closest planets, maybe the whole solar system, expands, I don't think it's our sun, because it's too small, I think, but the biggest stars will expand and just swallow the whole solar system. And then it will go through different phases, super compact high energy, what is it called, which is spinning around and getting completely wrecked before it explodes again.

And then it comes supernova, and then it becomes a star dust again, and then the process anew. We are very small in this big picture, so the fact that we are in a way, that we are above the big processes there, that's just because we are incredibly high on ourselves. But it is also a process in the highest degree, in the same way we live and develop ourselves. Yes, yes. So that is... The process is the goal. The process is the goal. Maybe it is. But the end of our existence would be when something like that happens.

Yes, but I thought about humanity itself. There is something inside that has programmed that this is the end. Not necessarily from outside, but that we ourselves just divide ourselves. It's not like a human being can have a limit of life time, if the whole humanity has it. Yes, that would mean... Do you know? Yes, I think I know. I think I know. I think that means that it's a form of intelligence around us, like a God or something like that. Maybe that's it.

You know what, before I had said that it wasn't, who the hell am I to have faith in that? The genius Lucy Kaye, you've heard of him. Yes, it's not a loose-key bit when you hear it. Probably? Yes, he is a narcissist, sure that God does not exist. You can't see behind the building. If you are on the street, you can see the future, but you can't see what is behind it. And then you know something so big. Yes, I agree. But if it's something, it is going on in a way that you think is rational. Yes, yes.

And because you know a lot of things about religious thinking. Yes. And what you know, the great world religions, all religions and all mythologies that have ever existed, is a product of our knowledge that we try to find out, we try to make opinions. And when you see, I would say that science and atheism is a modern kind of religion, and it is more connected to science, to what we can respond to. More than that we just, through generations, tell a story about different gods here and there, and the heavenly beings and the natural phenomena, that should be like that and that and that and that. But what we see is that we always paint it in our image, right? We make human faces up there as well.

And in the middle of the picture it seems like a child's play to look at. Because you don't know better. So you have to be human up there as well. And that's why to think that we are so unique. But before we knew how big it was, we felt very unique. Because it's just some newer times, we have realized that we circulate around the sun and not around it. Yes, that's true. So yes. It's those things that have made me, that have made me think those thoughts.

And then I get home. The only thing I say is that I'm not sure. Because we know so little. But I feel that I'm going in some direction in what I'm thinking here. Yes, I'm not sure anymore. But I was to East before. Very sure. But then I noticed... It was nice to be there. It was a sick nice. My life was the best.

But in the same way it is nice to be religious. I know myself. I know I am the one who is angry. Yes, yes. It's nice good thing. Yes, sure. Very good. But to be completely sure is stupid. Yes, it's very stupid. But there is no doubt about it. The more you know, the less you know. It's very frustrating. You just feel more stupid.

You think you should be smart when you are trying to find out things. And then it feels like that. And now I am sitting here... Maybe it is also that his philosopher talked about, or he said it, I don't know what it was. The philosopher's son who talked about freedom. Yes, that is a man. He, the philosopher. Several male philosophers are female, right?

Yes, I think so. A big transition. I think so. They have to do something with it. They have to do something with it. They have to quote... Quote in the philosopher... That is something fun. You can put a quarter in the philosopher. Hahaha, there it is okay. The thing about freedom we talked about earlier, that I sit now and actually feel I can do much more than when I was younger.

But I sit and stress, because there is so much I should learn now, but where the hell should I start? Where the hell should I start? I can't... I can't learn everything. So instead of just taking it easy and just enjoy learning a little bit here and there, you stress yourself over that you should learn as much as possible. That is a sign of where we are. Yes, absolutely. I think that is probably the beginning of something. When you have an impulse of restlessness and what to do, and suddenly you find something, and then you have an idea. And then you get done with it, and then you get that feeling again. That's life. You get completely done. It's a syphus, the stone up thing.

There are some who are more like that. There are a lot of things like that, half way. The stone up syphus. Yes, but there are some who are very much like that, who are just going into someone's few things. Yes. And they are also a bit critical. Yes. And they also have to be a bit critical. They don't care about everything else that you pick up. It's just one or two things that they don't really care about. I try to be like that. I just care about stand-up and football. I like to read books, I like literature.

And within that you like a lot. Yes, but there are people who dedicate their lives to one author. They make it to the degree of a doctor, about that book. And it seems like it's almost fun to be so into one thing, to be so specific. That they can find so much there. Because they see the universe in the books. Yes, and not only the authors, but also musicians and different types. That you do it completely on...

And also someone who has one film, of course. Yes, that's it. I don't count on that at all. I have never been completely obsessed with... I am very busy with... Or maybe I have something to do. I want to get over to something else. And then I never get really good at anything. No, you are good at stand-up. Yes, but that is my job. And that's just a way to communicate things.

But isn't it also just a way to be? Yes, probably. People say, how do you become the joke? And it's just how my head works. You don't have to do so much, whether you're laughing or not. You have to do the stage thing. You get better at it. You get better at communicating the thoughts you have. Because when it comes to everything, there is always just a way to communicate your thoughts.

And those who do improv theatre, they also have the, maybe their notebook is a bit different from ours, or a bit different, but they also have thoughts, like this could have been fun to put in a certain scene. But there is less room for philosophy, and observations in improv theatre or other art. But I feel like those who write poems and those who write paintings, they also try to express their thoughts and observations. I think the coolest form of communication is stand-up. That's because we do it. It's difficult. It's just getting better and better. You just understand what works and what doesn't. When things like that come up. When things started, I tried, I was ashamed. Why did I think this would be funny? It's completely idiotic.

Things you're good at, like this, this, this, this, nothing. You take them away as fast as you can. But I also experience that sometimes there are things I doubt, that I'm very happy about. But there is something in me that says, this will work, I just have to continue with it. But I don't know if I feel... Stand-up is just a big part of me, that it's just how I am first and foremost a person with thoughts and things I want to express. And then I am almost a stand-up comedian. Yes, absolutely. But there is a very identity connection, I can imagine. But think how many there are of us, how many different types there are, how many different branches there are inside.

Almost all of us, or very many of us have a different expression and direction. And it's fun. Like when people have the same theme, they have gone in a different direction. These are the things that are fun to say. It's not something that is more annoying when you have a good good premise and you find out that someone else has it. Yes, then they come up with something better. Or it's just too much like, you feel it. Feel that this is not okay. Yes, but that often happens. But it's just how you go from premise, I feel. Because there are many premises that make the difference between a woman and a child. If you think premise as a fundamental theme, there are many possibilities. But sometimes I think more about very well, but it's so fast that I suddenly just go off.

What the hell was that? How did he get into that track? Yes, that have a lot of space. Yes, people who... what do you do when you... because you experience it all the time. What do you do when you pass by a person who is sleeping or is dead on the ground? What do I do? Yes, because... I think if he is sleeping, it would have been good to pass by. But you don't know if it's a dead person or a dead person. It's a, yes.

Or maybe he just said it to me, he's sleeping, it's okay. But don't you experience it? Because I know what I'm thinking. That's it. That's it. He's sleeping. And he's sleeping and sleeping. I almost think he's sleeping. Oh, he's enjoying it.

He's enjoying it, yes. He has the best sleep in his life. I don't want to disturb you. But I feel that I see people who are sleeping all the time. We know that there are many who die during the night and are found like that. But if he is dead, it is not that much you can give anyway. No, it is true. But if he is in the process of dying... In the process of death. Then the body will start to devise itself. If you are in a state of death, if you are so on the rim that you go from sleeping to being dead, then it's difficult for us to know that. Then the body needs to give some signals, some spots, some directions, right? Because I think if there is something there, and it is like this, I will do it now. Yes, you do it now. But you are afraid of being told off, right?

Like why didn't you do anything? But nobody has told you off, right? Who has been there? Who was guy, who didn't do anything here? Yes, that there is one who does it, who checks and says, Okay, he is that guy. I saw you went for me now, why didn't you do anything? And I apologize seriously. For no one who did anything. I was rich, I just went that I am... I just realized that I should be more... I should care more about the people around me. I should care more about that. I get so incredibly warm inside me when I see a small group of people who are just standing around the street,

and just talking. I don't know, it's just okay. And that makes me warm warm in the heart. But I don't do it myself. I'm not good enough at it. I had one... or damn it... I had one... this was just for myself. And I'm honest about it. If I'm just going to break it down. I had a ritual before. And and I had more time. And then I had a few times a year when I took out a lot of cash, a lot of coins, and then I went around as Scrooge, after I had visited the spirits and met a better person, or someone else, if you think about Donald Duck and just say, Good day, Mr. Backman! And I said, Take a penny! And I shared it.

I did, I walked around, and I had a bank with I like Oslo, and I gave it back. And I helped people too, and I wasn't like, didn't film myself like people do today. I never did that. It was just because I felt it was a good thing to do. Yes, but it's good. Should I take it back? Yes, why not? It's a nice thing, I think. There's nothing wrong with it.

I think it's important for me at least not to film it, because then it becomes a zoom in. But you mention it now, and then it becomes basically the same. Yes, but I'm honest with you. But is it wrong to help others who feel good? No, absolutely not. I think it's okay if it's just a small thing. But it's not the motivation, or is it? Or is it just that now I have something extra, I want to help a little? And the good feeling is just a part of the... what is it called? The side effects. It's not like I'm sitting like a speckled devil, with so many feelings, and I don't care about all those people, but I could feel better. I think so, I try to. I don't feel their suffering at all.

So it's a kind of mixture of feeling for others and feeling for yourself. I think I locked locked in to answer that. Okay, let's move on. I've written and I'm standing here with my dog. Let's talk about Siamese twins. Let's talk about them.ese twins? Yes. Do we talk enough about them? Yes. I mean no. No, okay. I think it's very little focus on it. Yes. But something that is very fascinating and interesting. It's very fascinating. And have we... It's never been a map, I feel, of how many Siamese

twins there are in Norway, for example. example. How many cases we have here now. Are there 5, 10, or more than 100 Siamese twins in Norway? Yes, that's what I'm looking forward to. I've never seen it in Norway, I've just seen it on the internet. And I wonder what they are doing, actually. I saw a very interesting... I I know I talked about it before, I saw a documentary where there were two Siamese twins, very individual creatures. It's funny that you have to point out that there were two, it was just one of them.

It is a bit strange. Yes, but it's fun. But we can guess if you sit together on the side of the bottle or in the shoulder part. Do you have two heads or not? If two heads grow into each other, are there Siamese twins who have one central control, one brain and two bodies? I don't know. I don't know. Or they must be two... they must identify as different... or as persons, for them to be Siamese twins. If they are not just a thing that is attached to another person, isn't it? A little sidecar. That it is a dead being that is attached to the body. right? A little sidecar? Yes, yes. That there is a dead creature hanging and throwing?

Yes, yes. But it's not Siamese, is it? If it's hanging dead... If you have a dead animal that is stuck in you, then you are Siamese. Yes, yes, it's just dead. It's not that you are free, then? No, you are not.

What better to be Siamese than a dead animal? I am an old person, yes. I'm talking about this one here, next to it. What do you mean, Siamese twin? I am an owner. I am talking about him here, beside him, he is there. I don't give a shit about him. So, Alte Korshe, would you like to take life from your own Siamese twin? Because then you are free, you are one person. Yes. Here are many good philosophical questions. That's what I'm thinking, is there a Siamese twin who is a philosopher? Do they have an insight like that? Or if they have written a book? Is there anything like that? Yes, there must be. Because I saw that documentary, they were very... and not necessarily underestimated, but I think there varies. It's very rare for them to live.

They often want to hide their social skills. They were very two... They were together, but very different. They demanded their own. And they had respect for each other's privacy. When I take a shower, I didn't want to fall down. She should be allowed to shower herself. Then they took a shower curtain and put it in between. And the other one was just... She was just breathing. I was not there. Let's not be me. But that's like... I feel... If I were a Siamese twin, I would have thought we should find out when we shower. This is something we should do at the same time.

And just be like... One shower, okay, are you done? Okay, now I'm going to shower. It's really impractical. Yes, it's a bit clumsy only one who showered every day. But now it would have been nice with two shower heads. Yes. When you had a curtain between you. Often there is one who is in the shower and one who is not. It's like that. This is the same as all the others with physical handicaps.

They need help in things. So I don't have anything like that. I think it's a fun phenomenon, and I don't think it's a problem to talk about it. It's not like I have a violent disrespect against those who are different, it's not that. I think it's an exciting phenomenon. Yes, it's very exciting. Because you are one body, but often two persons. You would be relatively normal to not have any handicap and such, but if there is one thing I might not want to have, it was to be eternally linked with another head. It's like a twin, you get very in one.

Yes. It's a very fascinating thing. And if there is one, if it can melt together two brains, and how it wants to go up there, it must be... No, whatever. Is it like that you could ask Chat Jiggy P? Take that brain and go back, put it together. What do they say? Yes, you can say that. Take Einstein's brain and mix it with Maradona's brain. Yes, not right now, because you misused the term. Because they are just language models, so they would just search for information.

But they would take all the info from Einstein and Maradona and say, ok, what would this person say? Yes, that would be a mix. And then you would get a usable information, and you would that is out there, and everything else that has been said. Maybe they are not so different. Maybe they are not so different. We are going into a scenario that was played. Yes. And it is quite simply a scenario, pen of Lasse Brunvold.

Are you ready? I am ready. You are being led into a massive but well lit hangar. Okay, what is a hangar? That's a good question. It's a big damn hall. Look at it like this. There is a plane parking lot. Okay, yes. There are a lot of planes. It's like that. It's so big. Okay, yes.

The hangar is completely empty, apart from that it says 999 by the randomly selected Norwegians on the row. Okay, yes. Thank you, Tom. A completely Squid Game-like feeling. Yes. A vote on the speaker says, choose one sport, skill or branch to compete in. The competition must find a place in the hangar, but we can get everything we need for the performance. Only the winner survives, the rest is executed with a neck shot. Which competition do you choose to get the winners out as the only survivors? And here is the question. What do you think you can beat 999 others in? Here it is allowed to think high and a phase needs to come at once.

I'm good at tricks and football. You are? Yes. You have the right attitude. So I could have taken quite a few. I would have improved the average. What is your trick record? My trick record?

It has to be something younger, like 2000 or something. You can keep going as long as you want. Yes. But I also have the earth around my record. Because it's your feeling when you trick a ball, and I have also tried to trick. I am in no way close to being able to trick every thousand. I don't feel that I can hold on as long as I want. I live for something, of course. I can quickly see something. But when you trick, it's just, this is so easy.

Yes, it's like that. So I could have done that, but in the end it becomes a kind of endurance. Yes, but you want to... Of a thousand, the chance is big, because if it's someone as good as you, and you feel it's easy to do a trick, you want to go for endurance. But here it's about life. It will be a tough fight. But is it just... Okay, but everyone in a tough fight. But is it just me or is everyone in the same situation? You have a big advantage here, because you choose the line. But I think that everyone in there is a part of the game against me. For example, if I trick the other guy and his life is not on the line, his goal is to win over me and I die,

then he doesn't have that much motivation to continue. Then I think I would have held out longer. But that's my whole life, he just tries to kill me. You're getting me with the premise. I think everyone is on the line. But you're the one who's on the line. Yes, yes. So everyone gets on the ball. It's nothing that is safe, so it should have been good with trick singing.

But what other alternatives do you have? Do you have other candidates you could have been good with? Yes. What would you say are the three things you are best at? Just like that. How long are you out here? I'm probably football. Trick singing? Stand-up.

Stand-up. Then I can rap. Then you can rap? Yes. I don't freestyle anymore. But because then... Yes, but I think that if you compare it to 1999, there are very few on a mixed basis who is good for rapping actually, and also stand-up. But stand-up is a bit like, how would that be a competition?

Yes, then you have to... Okay, who is the audience? Yes, what do we need an audience for? Yes, then you would have said, okay, you choose stand-up, okay, then we say, put the microphone on the table, the beer, and bring in the audience! Then there will be 999 others. Yes, the audience. Then you will go one by one. Yes, yes. And then you will have a big advantage, because you have the jokes ready.

Yes. But the very few will just have to shoot too often. Yes. Maybe... Alexander Bastian, or Tomi Steine, Anne-Kat Herland, one of them who have done stand-up. It's a very small chance for you. It's a very unselected. Yes, it's stand up the safest, that's for sure. But what should you do? You never know what kind of audience it is.

It's hard to feel. But it's hard to do stand up. You never get to be at work again. And how does it portray your humour and your playfulness? That life is at stake. Life is at stake, yes. I just had to say to myself, okay, now you just have to pretend that life is not at stake, because then you know you are living the best. But I have to forget that. But should you be a little like a pandering? It's about football now. You get nervous, you get a little jealous, and it's not the same. It is.

Just think like this, okay, I can actually do this, but I don't know if I can f*** up. But it's a bit like... We all have to die one day. We all have to die one day. It's a very sad thing in this scenario. We all have to die one day, so I don't care. Yes, we all have to die one day, so I don't know what the worst way to go about it. What would you rather go out on? Is it stand-up? Stand-up?

It will be legendary, that set, after death. Yes, if people play it in, this is the last set. For all of you, a good set, but Tommy Steine was really good that evening. He was really good that evening. It was a good evening. Imagine if it was an open mic, and there were many friends in the audience. And get the best response. And who the audience is. Of course, it's also a matter of saying.

Is it picked up by one from each building? Are it old kids? It's a matter of saying. Suddenly a guy starts to hack me, I panic. I can't handle it. You look like an amateur. No, with the stand-up. Yes, stand-up, let's go. Nice.

We are going to... yes, we have been a little bit in the same landscape, but did you see that Bill Gates had an interview? And there is something he talked about. That the complications, or what happens with AI and such. That in the end we don't really want to have a need for human labor. It's one of the few jobs that... And then she says that jobs are actually just something we have had to take, because we have suddenly got so many tasks we have to deal with. Then we as humans are like, oh, fuck yes, but then we have to do it, we have to dig here. And then you have used other, you have taken slaves, both old-type slaves and modern slavery to do the jobs. I think it was a very exciting, that we suddenly had to leave and just enjoy ourselves and plough some berries and hunt a little and so on, to do those crazy jobs,

to do the work almost completely. And that it is... But we found those things on, because we needed more food, didn't we? Yes, but we didn't find it. It was just natural. I think that everything has gone well over often several tens and hundreds of years, right? So it's not like you suddenly just took a direction. So in the case of the earth's use revolution, it was like that. You moved around because you needed food. and there was more access to food, and therefore they moved around. So I think maybe it was a kind of inborn desire that we can't just stay here. And then the possibility came to dominate the cows or the livestock, and then over time it just became like,

now we can just stay here, because we have managed to hack the whole thing. But it is also that the dream direction we can take is that we actually get control over AI and machines, and robotics, which makes us actually let go of the hunt, which is work, and can have that free time. That sounds really cool. It's so nice. I think, and you see already that people use almost all their jobs, and it's strange that many don't use AI, to solve the boring parts of the job. So that's already in progress. And then you see the shops, the daily shops, and these self-employed bosses. They will more and more just make the need for work less.

The bosses at the top want that. But they also want to create less jobs. And it seems that those who work in the store, maybe not all of them have wanted to work there for many years either. I don't know, some have it, some haven't. But it doesn't look like they care about it at all. It looks like they get a bit pissed off every time. Because I always go to the cashier, because I don't want to take away their jobs. I feel that it's going too fast out there. What do you think about that? Well, if we are going to get... But we have to find out what people want. When people want a job. You want that.

And people have to do something. That's why we talk about the back pay. Because there will come a point where we have very little jobs. But we have machines to do the jobs, so people still earn money. And then we have to make sure that when we don't have the labor force to give, or jobs to give, we have to make sure that people have money. So we have to start with that already. But I think that we know what we have to do with free time, like in stand-up comedy. We have a lot of free time, we want to do something.

But if you don't have anything to do and you have that free time, how does it affect the soul of the person who is working all your life? If you don't have anything to do, nothing will happen to you. Yes, but I think that everyone has something in their wish. You have to have a hobby. Stand-up is very... you can live by it, but in the end it's just a hobby for almost everyone. There are very few who just go in and train, not just come straight in and get the salary. If you don't train yourself, you don't get paid for it. So I think that society would have become a much richer place culturally, if everyone could just go out and enjoy themselves, and do different things through art. If you have a salary, you have more time to take care of the sick and the old.

If we don't get to that, if everyone has a salary, and sits on each of their toes and gives a fuck to everyone, then we haven't managed to do that at all. But if that us more time to help each other, that we have more time, as you see not only in different tribes, but also in almost all other societies in Norway, then you see that you take care of your old people in a different way. We don't do that here. And in very western civilizations, it is very like you have old homes and you just... Yes, it's a bit... Is that the phase? I don't think so. No. It's just because it has become like this.

We don't have time to take care of the children or the old ones. The children should take care of the old ones. But what can people do when people still have to meet? So we don't have work's meet and draw together. But do they do things like that? Today when you don't have a job, you get desperate, tired, depressed. But if you don't have any demands, you have to have them, if you can do it without them. Imagine how chill it is. You meet in the backyard, in the park, playing games, playing games.

One is painting over there in the corner. Soon you will be talking about some jokes. And the old people are also sitting there and enjoying it. Do you have time for that? No, it's not the dream community. That's it. I feel like they should have youth clubs and a home for the old people. So the old people can come and see the kids play, and be in the studio. That's a bit annoying. The old people should old people are going to roll out every time.

Yes, yes, yes. You need to pause for them too. I told you to be careful, but you have to be limited in how much they are going to roll out everywhere. My point is maybe if we feel very locked up and today we feel that things are going in the wrong direction, and that things are very scary, and AI is that things are going in the wrong direction. And that things are terribly scary and AI is terribly scary and technology is terribly scary. But actually we are in the starting group to a dream, to a utopia. If we are able to grasp this correctly. Because we have now actually for the first time in thousands of years we have the opportunity to live our lives back in our own society, the free, basic society.

Only with high technology, but all the work is done by robots. But what if someone is born to do a regular job? Well, football is a human existence, but someone is born, I say born, born to play football. But we found that football, what if we have found things because people need them to do things? It's a lot of work. Not everyone hates to work. But if you quit with the demand to work, then it's fine. Maybe a job shop will become a hobby. Yes, it will be. I think that you have to have it, if you can't survive. That's the problem. But it's very naive, of course. Just by raising the thoughts. What will happen is that those who are at the top will be used by robots and AI to serve even more. It's never shared equally. But you can always... It's never the same, but you can always find the balance. Or you have to work with finding the balance. It's not something that just ends it. The process is the goal. Yes, the process is the goal. And with those words... This was a very nice conversation.

Yes, it was. I have to again remember the show. Yes, great humor. Great humor. On the new stage. Great humor on the new stage. 9.10. Francisco Bricello.

Yes. There is no red hair coming of, the cool humor in the show. I think you have cool humor. It's very little to compare yourself to as a public humor. Relax, relax. Here comes cool humor. – Here comes cool humor. Enjoy it. – Yes. Okay, goodbye. – Goodbye, Bård. – Bye. Bye!