Fladseth - #239 - Jørgen EP
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Oh, that's a nice one. Hey, would you sell your car?
I'll buy the car.
I want 60,000 for your car.
Is it Isefixfond?
Hey, is it available at the cash register?
I'll buy it last time!
Oh, really?
Follow the cashier again!
What the hell?
Is it a Russian car?
It's a lot of money to buy a car without Find.no.
More than 60 000 cars on...
We can take it with us if we think about the name.
But it's a fun thing.
You told me you played with one person.
I played football with a well-known and well-known name in the entertainment and humor industry.
Programme leaders, among other things. You've probably seen him.
He?
Yes, I saw him on a special evening. A lovely guy, Bdan Gløyen, but he is also a terror when he plays football.
We play something called Caged Ball in Nydalen, where the ball is played tactically bad.
I would say tactically, tactically worrisome.
He tries to clarify the ball in Caged Ball, which is are in a cage, the ball can't leave the cage.
And that's for those of you who don't understand, it's just to knock the ball out of the hand.
Yes, clearing is just to knock it out, kick it to hell to win time.
The problem is, it hits the net, and comes right back.
And as we said, one thing is to do that, another thing is to never understand that you shouldn't do that.
I know, I know.
That you never learn. You manage every ball. You do it every year.
I feel that if you had seen a series, how should we make a description of that character?
How should the first scene with this character, how should it be known to this character?
When you see it, you understand very much who this is.
That's very good. And then we can take a little link to Jørgen D.P.
One of the best creators we have here in the country.
Thanks.
I'm taken as a consequence as the creator.
Hahaha.
I'm always out of it.
I'm in the west, that's my title.
It's the title, yes, the creator.
Mm.
Must know.
Yes.
He has made it for himself.
Hahaha.
Yes.
That's it.
We are creators!
It is incredibly specific, but it is incredibly general.
I have to double check that I have done it once.
I haven't had it, and it's red and red and red and red.
When I hear creators, I think, seriously, how great it should be.
Creator, that's God, that's what you call creationism.
There's something biblical about it.
Something biblical, yes.
But then you have 300,000 studio loans in Vesterals, in Medibyr.
Yes, but not this guy.
Not this guy, exactly no.
You have been to Vesterland and made
Vitten Gutter and now you have made Bausen.
Very bad press strategy
performance
you are doing here now.
The season is over.
But it is still possible to go in
to the max and binge the shit out of this series.
The ones who haven't had the last
four or five pairs of eyes on the tap out of that show. The ones who don't have the last few minutes are the ones who are in a hurry.
Four or five pairs of eyes on the tap.
It's not like all my listeners are following everything that's going on out there.
You get more than a few hundred people to chat with.
Everything helps.
And it's a small TV show today.
It's a small TV show, but it's big for me.
You forget that when you make TV, when I made the series myself,
you get a little insight into what the audience wants to see.
500 people, it's the same as zero.
It's zero, yes.
Zero people, either zero than 500,
before the TV channel operates with it.
Because there are people who have seen it and not recommended it, but zero.
But if there are 500 people who have seen the show, it might happen.
I remember there was one like that on TV. 500 people in Norway who have seen the show.
All in Nepal TV. I remember it was late with Simon Sundt.
Yes, you are actually. It was on TV2 Sebra or one of his niche channels.
And there I remember it was a case like that.
He had 10,000 viewers.
And for those who do not know the TV industry,
the way it is targeted or targeted is that
various boxes are placed in a representative selection
by the authorities in Norway.
So one box corresponds to maybe 10,000. On this scale, then 10,000 is one. representative selection of the I said, 10 000! It's nothing. It's nothing. Not often to get a wedding for him.
No, Simon was good.
He was one of the best.
No, he wasn't. You can't say that.
The numbers say otherwise.
He wasn't the best either.
It's a shame for Simon, of course.
Oh my.
He was used to it.
I want to be programmed by the stars.
It was a talent show.
I don't think so.
It was like they were doing it at the time.
The host.
They turn around and...
They introduce themselves.
You, you, this is the night with...
DUDE! DUDE!
Rennes and Koss and all the big names. Dan B Berge. Tom Jones. What's your name Berge?
Alf Tande P. And then of course Dan Berge.
Erik Byvis, if you want to be free.
He was a TV host too?
He was a TV host. He was the only TV host.
He is the biggest legend we have.
You young people don't know who he is.
We don't know who he is.
It's so funny.
He is like Alf Preussen.
He is just there.
I don't know when he died.
He could have died in 1989. He could have died in 1989,
and he could have died in 1962.
Eirik Byrja.
He didn't die in 1962, I can see that.
I know that.
It was to get the points.
Should we know when he died?
Eirik Byrja.
We should have had...
We talked about it.
I had met Jim with the Grekern yesterday, the producer, he is the boss of modern media.
The producer is a bad producer, he can't google, he can't just click on a button.
But we agreed that it's fun, dynamic, we have never given up on him to google.
He has never managed to do it. It's simple.
Erik By, it's so simple.
I'm a Jeter.
Norwegian program manager.
Thank you.
I jetted in 1987.
Then I jetted in 2003.
Because it's 2004.
No, it's not.
I can't be completely on.
We have lived at the same time as Erik By.
It's not shocking, of course.
Erik By, right? Not only was he so big, he got so damn old too.
Or what do you mean?
Born in New York, in Brooklyn.
He did everything. He didn't. He was just the host. I have to promise.
He was the only person on TV. He was Norway's most famous man.
What should we compare him with? The only person on TV was Norway's only famous person. He was pretty have the same media habits. You know that.
The media habits have changed a lot.
Tell me more.
What is this?
This is what I was talking about.
Is this the end?
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
I can't always pick you up on Vestas, but I I can say that the media is used to changing people.
What is changing?
I thought it was still like it was before.
Jørgen Eppe, Bausen, can you look at Max?
What do you say? Max. say HBO Max? You have to say max.no and then you will find it.
It's pretty damn funny.
Nice, thank you.
Just like that.
Nice TV dinner.
Just one episode here and one episode there.
You will be on Sunday, very tired.
It will be the program when you talk to your girlfriend and say
Should we watch that documentary? It's a bit heavy.
What went that wasn't heavy?
Bausch.
Go in.
Just watch. The team will be a bit heavy. What is it that is not heavy? Bausch. Go ahead. Just watch.
Will there be a new season?
You can say that now.
We...
Everyone understands that there will be one.
It will be a disaster, let's see.
We hope so. Confidentially, you know.
With the water.
You can say that the stage is good.
But that doesn't necessarily have everything to say.
But you can look at the numbers. The numbers are good, and the stage is good.
Yes, the numbers work well. We don't get to know that much either.
It's big business. But we are just happy guys.
I have to say, I'm so tired of TV that I keep on spitting in my head.
I think about you guys.
It's the bitterness of and grief over here.
You got... It was a bit of a shame.
People are tired of hearing about it.
I understand.
But it's clear that you get...
There are bad times in TV.
Yes, there is a bit of money.
And the crown is weak.
And you are a small fish in the global market.
And you notice that the theater, the cultural life is dying now, it's a bit sad, it's dangerous.
It's a bit awkward.
There are many who are a bit hopeless now.
We are going to a show together tonight, with Rasmus, and it's difficult to see the tickets.
It's a disaster, you and Rasmus should know that.
It takes a bad time for the understand. May is a very...
You are right. You are right, of course. That's why I tried to put in a joke that it was a bit cold on Wednesday.
And that it's late.
It's the sun. No, it's not. It's full sun.
There's a lot of wind.
But it's 17 degrees.
The paracetamol, it feels like...
Okay, yes. It's 5 seconds. But you have to look at the paracetamol. It's the 13th cast.
It's the in the box.
13 in the box, and it's the one you notice.
It's the one you notice.
It's very, very clumsy.
It's the box.
Over-explained.
But then it's also, it's 13 in the box.
And then people come like, why did you come to the show?
No, it was against some damn box.
I don't know what this show is all about.
Four people came tonight, followed us, and followed us and threw a lot of balls.
Give away the tickets.
No, but you are a little more tricky.
And people are not so early in the lab to get tickets for Automobile World.
No.
So close?
It is, but it is, yes, but so close.
So it will be good?
Yes, we live by, I can say so.
We would have done it for free, Henrik.
Yes, but we almost did, because we live by being able to try and do shows, and it's fun if it gets full, but we manage that it's not full. It's not like that, it goes well.
Yes, yes, yes.
But laughing is mostly about being full.
Of course, and it's the amount of crowns you get, depending on how full you get for such a party.
I often dream of being an authority, not a policeman. I dream of being a policeman now.
Yes, but that I can see for myself.
Am I childish? But I think we should be honest about our childish daydreams. I don't think it's dangerous.
Because everyone has it.
Yes, yes. I mean that the concept of daydreams is childish.
No, the childish ones. Yes, yes. I mean that the concept of Dagdramme is childish. No, the childishness.
Yes, the childishness.
And I have always dreamed of and thought that I would be in an autoritaity role.
I would be close to a completely raw Daniel Day Lewis character.
A glimmering actor.
Yes.
A very calm one. Yes. Comes into a brilliant acting performance, a person who is completely calm, enters a room.
Owns the situation.
It's like an apple taking a small look at things, but the situation in the room is very scary.
But that Washington in peace?
Yes.
You see bubbles under there, but it's completely calm on the surface.
I thought it didn't bubble under there.
No, no. It's calm down and's bubbling under there, but it's completely calm on the surface. I thought it wasn't bubbling under there.
It's calm down and over, in a way.
I thought that if I were to become one of those types, for some reason, I would at least strive to have that calmness.
I think you could play a good type of scary Nazi, in Glorious Basterds. What's his name?
His name is Christoph Waltz.
Yes, Christoph Waltz. The scene where he drinks milk.
You could have done that pretty well, I think.
That suddenly explodes.
Many would say that it was him, or it was he. Because I am often the opposite of that calm.
But...
I see you as someone who knows you pretty well.
You are a calm person.
Yes, I am calm.
On stage. A crazy man.
Yes, I agree. I have said that many times.
But you are the calmest in the group.
If we meet, you have lunch with other jugglers and such.
Yes, I am a calm attitude.
But I look at Denzel and Krustoff and I'm not the first to think that it's a raw energy to have in a drunken setting.
And it gives a very, very pompous.
A Tony Soprano. No, it's wrong, because he is a bit more... He is more aggressive all the time.
He is. But who else do we have? There are many good...
Lego... No, Aragorn?
Look at his Lego, Tonse!
Lego... Aragorn...
Aragorn is calm.
Aragorn is calm. Aragorn is a favourite in the Riga.
Arragorn?
Arragorn!
No, it's Gandalf.
It's Gandalf.
Of course.
He is calm.
We must never forget, and I say again, to his fellow, we must never forget that in the books,
Frodo is over 50 years old.
Is that true? It's been 30 years since Gandalf came to the world for the first time, until he is reading
the ministry.
Oh my God!
You are 30 years old!
No!
Yes!
Finally!
In books, yes!
You have read the books?
Yes!
Are they good?
No!
The movies are better!
The movies are funnier with movies.
And this has a good... a special fan of mine, Jacob, we talk often about it, we completely
agree that in that case the movie is better.
One of the rare times that the movie is better.
Frodo is the most lovable character.
Because he actually goes through no journey.
No.
He doesn't.
No.
He is...
He is being carried away.
Yes, he is being carried forward. Of course he throws...
You think he is crying, but he is being carried forward.
It's not him, it's Sam.
Sam is going through a journey.
It's all the other characters.
While Frodo is actually just a constant, pure soul.
He is like...
I mean, the journey he is going through...
I mean, he wanted to have thrown the ring in the volcano,
when he is in Hobbitun.
In the same way he does when he is at the volcano.
And what should be good at storytelling is that he should be able to throw a ring in when he meets Hobbitun.
But the journey should have changed him as a person.
Frodo stagnates on day one.
One?
He is shooting a slingshot in Hobbitun.
When they say, this is in the movie, this is come to a point where we have never been home from.
Yes. There he is. There on the ground, when he sees the ochre.
There I am, Frodo's journey is over for me, and then I start following the others.
It's true, it's interesting. We have to analyze.
I'm sure I stole the analysis from one of the Instagram Reels, but I don't disagree.
No, it's good.
Let's see, what kind of policeman would you have been?
What kind of policeman would I have been?
Because you play a...
A bit of a loose policeman.
Likes to have fun in the sun.
I also know you personally, as you were saying. You're not that kind of person.
You put a lot of effort into doing the job properly, right?
Yes, but I'm not a fan of conflict either.
So it would have been a conflict of interest.
I would have done a proper job, but I would also have maybe...
...saved.
If I had driven on patrol, I would have saved the most crowded places with the car.
I would have driven there, it was pretty calm.
And took what coming up there.
But no, I am impressed by the police when we have driven with them and become a bit familiar with the people who have given us research.
In the series, there are people who are so damn robust and capable people.
There are people who are like, okay, I'm ready if it happens.
And they are constantly doing that.
When they are at work.
I have never been to a fight, Henrik.
There has never been a politician who has never been to a fight.
But you are going through police high school.
Yes, that's true.
You can't do that if you don't recognize that you are ready for a fight.
Do you think so?
Yes, but that happens.
It happens.
It's like you are in the gym, the It brings me to a point I have actually noted here. And that is, are we kind?
I am talking about humanity, or not the whole humanity, but many of us,
in urban western areas, are we kind to humans and animals?
Because it is this old story that how there are wolves and wolves. And the wolves are often like, yes, financial stops, they get very high and they are life-threatening,
and they are often psychopaths and so on.
So the whole gang is just wolves that get eaten or just get pushed around.
And then we have something like this, it's something in very, we are very kind to each other, and it's good, but are we too kind?
Will we at the end, will it backlash at the end?
Because I saw, the thought came up when I saw a new little fight between two dogs in the dog park in the city.
There both owners, at first glance, break in and take the dogs away from each other.
And this is annoying me, because I have actually spent some time reading dog psychology.
And then you're trying to tell me about the fighting dog.
Yes, she is a leg, but also very active. But she kicks off when she has to.
But the most important thing with dogs is to let them greet each other,
and let them be friendly, even if it seems threatening.
So now you have to take them away from...
Yes, it's a kind of dance, I guess.
Yes, it's their language.
They have to learn it, or they'll become asocial and weird.
So if you take them away from each other, they won't learn to talk.
It's probably too much for humans, or at least for a macro variant.
That's what I think, because this comes from goodness in a way, but it backlash.
There is a kind of bear-tenderness.
Yes, you don't become robust to anything, you don't prepare for anything.
It's the same with children. We have to talk to our children about feelings and how it is actually
and those things. We understand that is important. But then you have our parents' generation
again, who are not bad at it, but it's not a part of their DNA. It's not the back muscles that do it. And they also mean, when they look at it,
I'm not allowed to take the shoulder of the child, like, and...
I have to be able to carry the child out of the situation.
It's almost like I'm bending my ears a little, but I understand that it's too much.
They understand. But they probably got that.
But they just think it's ridiculous that you're not allowed to carry the child out of the situation.
I'm so divided on that, because on the one hand,
it's like, research-wise, it's like,
yes, but you should communicate.
Or one thing I've been thinking about,
is that pedagogy is an insane concept.
It's so created over time and evolution,
it gives no meaning.
From a fundamental human primal starting point, right?
That your young man beats you in the face, and then you will be like
Mocken, beat me, we don't beat, we destroy in the family.
It's clear that you are back in the old days.
Fight fire with fire.
Here is the boss.
Here is the boss.
Think of the old days, think evolutionarily of the old days.
How many young people have smoked with to get to pedagogy.
Yes, I would believe that, since we are as chimpanzees as possible, that we had more alpha hands,
we still have, but more systematic alpha hands structure.
And if it was a kid who clapped to the alpha hand,
Hello.
Then it was done.
Then you have to wait nine months before she's done.
Your boy hit me!
Your boy came with a cap in his mouth and hit the leader of the group.
Your boy had nerves to hit the alpha!
Then he had to hit so hard that the alpha died.
And he became the alpha!
Then you respect him. But you do it properly. People are dies, and he becomes Alfand, then you respect him.
But you do it properly.
People are like, ok, here's a goal.
Because you respect Alfand.
Yes.
If Alfand now takes his last breath, because he's beaten by the young ones.
Respect!
You are the new Alfand!
And then they are.
And then you score your team, the voice is stronger for the future, right?
Yes.
I don't want my kid to be able to fight if he has to, but I don't want my kid to fight.
No, of course.
Send him to Krav Maga or Jiu Jitsu or whatever. But the question is, I am a big fan of, I like the way the thoughts about good and idealism are, but there is a lot of it becoming a utopia, right?
Good and idealism?
Yes, that's the point. If the world suddenly becomes a very, very painful, cold and bad place, and because it is driven, suddenly there are a couple of atomic bombs going on, and then there are atom winters and so on and so on.
Then there are completely different rules of play, and then it doesn't help to have that good character.
Then you have to learn to be a little tough.
Yes, Fenfair Own, and I think the gang is russians.
Not that we are.
No, no, we are russians.
No, we are russians.
But we are perhaps tougher, and that says a lot.
Than most of the children who grow up.
Yes, I think so, but I think it unites Russians against...
It unites Norwegians in a fight.
I know where I put my money.
It is a system. Not that I try indirectly to praise the Russian indirectly, but that there is something about it.
I remember Dave Chappelle once said, he won the Mark Twain Prize or something like that.
He said that I, as a state analyst, sometimes you have to be a lion so you can be the lamb you really are.
Jesus, that's deep. You have to be a lion.
Sometimes you have to be a lion, so you can be the lamb you really are.
Why are you mixing animals here?
Lamb and lion.
Sometimes you have to be...
Are you talking about lion's lamb?
No.
Here comes Jim.
Have you greeted?
This is the Greeks. I feel I. Oh my god. Have you greeted? This is the Greeks who have come.
I feel I have greeted you first.
No, Jørgen.
Oh my god.
I'll take it.
I took the one with the most gold.
I'm on a tight schedule.
So, come down.
Jim will walk as he wants.
I promise Jim.
But I took my food.
It's okay.
Sometimes you have to be a hitter, so you can be free.
That's my point.
Yes, we're just talking about Jim.
Can we be too kind to people and animals, and want to backlash ourselves when the world becomes a colder place,
then we can't have nice boys and girls who are...
Then you have to be a little...
A little tough.
And you who grew up in the slum in Athens, you know...
You know about Acropolis? The ruins?
He grew up in ruins!
He grew up in Acropolis.
It's right there from Acropolis.
The ghetto at the top.
It's ready to fall.
Because you have Acropolis, right?
And then you have Favea.
The Athenian Favea.
Right down from Acropolis.
You say Favea?
Favea.
Because there are two L's.
Stumel, you know.
Oh shit.
Portuguese Stumel.
Jim, please.
Yes, no, I think it's okay to not be too soft.
Have you not already started backfiring a little?
Isn't it a little too soft already?
Yes.
A little soft?
The question is how it is backfiring, because there are a lot of good things about this, that you are good and not violent and so on. Hinduism and Buddhism have lived this for many years.
They are some of the most violent people. If you were to show up, and all Buddhists are fine, then I see that they are...
They are, because they have some crap, just like the Catholic Church. Because they don't get purged. They don't get a that have practiced that the transition ritual from being a child to an adult
is that you have to suck another adult
and just suck the male part of you from...
There are pedophiles that have got...
Through...
Of course
There is some pedophile idea in the ring
Bitch, just a little... more like a reply
It's holding up two fingers
Reply
Shouldn't they?
It's okay, it's a lot of stuff.
We could learn those things, but shouldn't we feel a little bit of the body?
What if we weren't grown up?
Stop with all that floating shit.
Can't we just call a spa doctor?
They have to...
Everyone understands that to become a man, you actually have to suck a dick.
Sad? Isn't it? Is it just me? If you want to become a man, you have to suck a dick in your mouth.
Sad?
Isn't it?
Am I the only one?
Am I the only one?
And they are like, are you really male?
Can't you just walk past?
If they had a police officer who could check the roll-bar, he would do it.
Isn't it funny to think that there are Stammer and Amazons sitting around a ball.
And then there are young people who catch wild animals and build huts.
And I'm completely insecure, but they are getting a little soft.
Our young people.
They only found one panther yesterday.
When I was young, they came home with elephants.
I don't know what they are, but it's very generalizing to think that they are just wild animals.
But we are much happier in our young people than we were just for a few years.
We get happier and happier in our young people, and it's dangerous. It's very dangerous that we get so happy in our young people that we don't dare to let them climb anymore.
I notice it myself that when I was little I climbed alone in the highest places. I couldn't find a tree that was high enough.
And now I notice that I just look at my son. He is full of control. He climbs over and is completely wild.
He is a little ape cat. but I don't trust him.
I am too scared, I don't want him to do it.
So you mean that being very fond of someone and then coming up with an aspect of losing a bit?
Yes, that's right. That you simply…
You have invested too much in him. So it's a miracle for you if he's still alive.
It's something that I, as a am much more all in in the young project
than men were just for a few 10 years ago.
And that makes me more attached to him.
But mothers have always been very close
and they have also given more fuck.
Go out and play you!
But from the old days, a lot of children died.
Then I had to be like 7-8,
then I sat with maybe two or three. you will have to sit with 2 or 3.
So he can do that too.
And it was stupid to be too invested, because it would most likely be rich anyway.
Yes, but it is probably that.
But also probably that evolutionarily, I would guess that women are more predisposed to be careful, while boys are more predisposed to be just
aggressive, but if it has become more and more that boys are also careful, then it becomes more two, two,
you don't have a gas and a brake in the same way, just when it comes to the risk aspect, it's more two brake pedals
maybe, because I'm worse at being afraid of my son's face than his mother.
I take myself into that.
He has to break a arm. He has to have a childhood.
Can't just, in a way, a father who stands under like that...
I have become better at letting him do what he wants.
One thing that has made me a little better is that I have understood more of the physics behind a small bridge.
It's so easy, you know. So if they run down, they run like a small play, like a play down a small hill,
and they swing back and forth, and they fall. And then I think, at least I thought before,
that they would fall with the power I had.
If I fell, and you fell like a duck.
A duck.
These trainers are always coming back.
I took some of it with me. It was impressive that you remembered.
We talked about it before you came.
I have my...
Habits!
I have in my hinch profile...
I have a habit profile.
Okay.
It actually says that the dream day is to watch Lord of the Rings and eat taco-rests.
Yes.
And there are very few women who actually like that I have it on my profile.
Yes.
So I have considered changing it, but I haven't done it.
But have you got anything? But when you first get someone who is like, oh, they like that thought.
It's often women who are white with a black scarf and a lot of tattoos.
And then they like piercings.
Cosplay after the wedding.
Yes, piercings in the eyebrows and stuff like that.
And I don't like them as often back.
No, I understand.
So it's a very bad tactic.
I have a very good attitude towards Guts.
Yes, you probably have.
I have.
I have several, my wife, ex, what is it called?
What is it called?
Got Lite?
Yeah, Got Lite, maybe. I've her? Gothtlight. Gothtlight, maybe.
She's been very active.
But she likes that type of music.
What do they like? Mayhem and Timmy Borger.
It's a period, it's a revolution.
Christianity in the family.
You have to be really...
But of course she's very happy about that. And she has the wisdom in her family, that she should be really... But it is clear that she is very happy with it.
And she has it in her, that the god lives inside her.
When did it come from?
I have had several...
Can you give me a little bit of that?
I have been in it before.
That I have, if not been in the god in myself, so indirectly.
That girls who have been in Goth…
What does Goth mean? Gothic?
Gothic, they are black in black clothes and black…
What is the etymology? Where do you come from? What is the type of priest?
I would say witch.
Do it then!
Witch, witch girl.
Can boys be Goth?
Yes.
Goths? Yes, Goths. He is a crazy bastard, he has a lot of rape complaints on him.
Not Alice Cooper, but the other one.
Marilyn Manson.
Marilyn Manson.
He is a man in Goths, if not he...
We can speak in English.
What makes someone a Goth?
Common characteristics of a Goth person include one whose ideologies and values are consistent with free thinking and the freedom of expression.
This is a goth that has been written.
And they tend to identify as counter culture.
Okay.
So, anti culture.
Anti culture?
But have they also made their own culture that is big?
It's a bit product statement, right?
It's always something paradoxical with these types of guys, because if you are a rockerolf,
or a gother, or whatever you want to be, capitalist for all these reasons, then you are in
conflict with the established, with the rest, but you still have uniform.
Because everyone dresses quite alike.
They may think they are unique in their environment,
but when you look at them from the outside...
Then you see a bunch of people who are a bit dressed up.
If you see a rockerolf from the outside,
if you sit up there with a beach guard chair
on tons of rock.
So here it is just a bunch of rocker-offers.
There are some gods actually.
Rocker-offers and gods.
A lot of black skin-wears and so on.
It's a uniform.
It's like two...
It's like two...
It's like two geniuses that like two... It's like two...
It's like two...
It's like two...
It's like two...
It's like two...
It's like two...
It's like two...
It's like two...
It's like two...
It's like two...
It's like two... It's like two... And speaking of being against the system, I think it's so much fun to see a punker at the store.
Yes, I agree!
Buy toilet paper, or just have to behave.
He also has to have toilet paper and butter and milk.
They don't get away with it, it's not like they can go to a punk store where everything is tagged.
I don't know what it's supposed to be.
It's like a pack from Zalando.
Also very strange. And you feel that they are more political, hardcore political and more like, oh well,
look at you little hickies, are you going to have a nest?
Would you privatize the water?
Or that Blitz is going to each other on their iPhones. It's like that.
A beautiful day, we're not going to need these.
But right now, to meet, we have to send a few messages.
That's why I say it again.
That's why I understood that when people would boycott all American goods and services,
I just understood.
No, no.
I have Tesla.
Yes, you do.
Yes. And that was of was the dumbest thing.
If you didn't sell it on the day Hitler Ilsen came, you would be tagged.
That's so crazy.
That's the craziest thing.
That was crazy. I've never had that sticker thing with me. Have you?
I saw it on the news.
You have to have a sticker, if have you? I saw it on the news.
You have to have a sticker, if not they will take the key
on your car. I bought it before Elon got crazy.
I think that's even more
provocative.
You really think it's crazy,
but you just have to
keep the car.
If you go to the store and get a sticker
and don't sell the car, then you are even
weaker. Or if the argument is that you don't sell the car because no one wants to buy it.
Because that is the last thing. I keep it because no one wants to have a Tesla now.
And those who are always in the middle of the soup when it comes to things like that,
it is always young red. Young Red. Young Red? Yes, yes, yes. Young Red?
Yes, yes, yes.
Everyone was protesting before the speech on May 1st.
And it's okay to have a little demo there.
But it's like…
But what I thought was fun…
It's different now.
Those who once were going to write NASA on Tesla…
They have a lot of time, you know.
They are not caught up in time.
But I think that what was a bit fun with the Tesla thing was that the gang Tesla owns, at least before Moscow and the whole package,
it was a good guy car, right? That you were like, it's a good environment, it's nice, it's not Chinese, blah blah blah. So the gang that owns Tesla would often be the ones that would maybe share some things
if it had been something else than Tesla that was in the middle of your shadow.
The social democratic middle class that is left-wing.
It's just that suddenly they were caught with a bomb, which they thought was a cake.
And that's why you hear mostly about red.
And the outer points. It's not a folk opinion, because the whole of Norway hates Tesla.
So you don't get the masses to remove that car.
And then it's a damn good car.
Yes, it is a pretty good car.
A big, big place.
And then it happens.
I'm sitting here advertising.
I'm a four wheel drive, so I'm going up the mountain a little sometimes. And then things happen that you can't turn and change overnight, because the world is not rigged.
If you had said in post-war times that the Jews are the big pieces of the wolf, or if you said before you bought a Tesla, this can't go wrong, this is what you buy here.
Yes, you will be tagged.
You will be tagged, that it is racist,
then you buy it in a few years.
You don't see the things coming.
And then you can make changes.
You can go into oil funds,
you can drop out of Israeli companies and so on.
But just like, yes, and it happens now,
but it doesn't always happen overnight.
So it's just about having a little bit of that in your stomach.
So young reds to throw them under the bus.
And those who are so idealistic,
that they are going to hit on absolutely everything that is not perfect every time.
That gang there, they are sitting in with an axel arc.
Because they hit me like a gang that is fucking in the axel.
And they are just sitting there and just driving up absolutely everything that is not clean every time.
It annoys me a little. I don't like the idealism. and just is doing everything that is not more important than anything else.
It irritates me a bit.
I like idealism.
I like that you care.
But I feel like you have to give things a bit more time.
You like pragmatic idealism.
What do you think
these people think about new songs to cani?
I just heard so much
that there is a song called Heil Hitler.
Yes, it is one word, Heil, and then the name of… after the name of Adolf.
Honestly, I think he is starting to look for something better now.
I think this is starting to… the circle is full. It's starting to get good.
It's starting to get so sick.
And it's also a bit problematic that the song is… the chorus is very, very catchy.
Damn it! It's a bit problematic that the song is... The chorus is very, very catchy. Damn!
It's super catchy.
Some of you played it at the office yesterday.
And then of course you couldn't say the words, but you were singing along.
The melody, I remember. I heard it on the way out yesterday.
Mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm.
And then it's... Do you agree that there is more resistance around the greeting to Musk than that Kanye has a song that is obviously, I have to say, that the meaning is not good.
But when you are so explicit in the high hitsFUCKER, it's so many mistakes there.
And I was at the TV2 show in the fall, and I was about to open my mouth to that song,
and dance the old man's dance to BANGSHOT MOTHERFUCKER.
It's so fucked up, and it's so over the top.
If Kanye West hadn't been out in such harsh weather, I think I could have seen the song.
I don't know what it's harsh weather, I think he could have seen the song.
I have a good feeling about that song. I don't know what it's about.
I can give you an impression of what it's about.
What is the over-ordered theme of the song? Have we got that?
No, we haven't.
Do you understand what I mean?
If he hadn't been out in such harsh weather,
if he hadn't said all the things he had done, then he could have celebrated the song as a satirical thing,
and put his finger on something in the social thing with it. That it just smashes out in the world.
That it's so ballsy, that it smashes out all that in the song.
It's so crazy that I feel like you're too little in criticism.
Is it really nobody who criticizes it?
Because it's over the top.
It's over the top, so you don't know how to criticize it.
And then I think people have become like,
it's like a demented best father.
He's just like, yeah, he's holding on.
He's driving like, what are we going to do with him?
Can't we dump him in the sea?
He's holding on, and he's friends with the money. So, okay are we going to do with him? He can't dump him in the car. He's a little bit like that. He's a little bit like that.
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He's a little bit like that. He's a little bit like that. I'm not talking about Spotify. No. The worst is, and I want to underline my theory, and so violently, because I have said this for many years,
and I know it's such a unique thought, but the worst, the very worst, the ones who are real, fundamental devils,
like P Diddy and Bill Cosby and Siobhae, they shouldn't surprise me if Kanye West has never touched a...
That he has done something wrong.
... crumpled a hair on anyone's head.
He has never done those things, but he has been...
He gets it out in the public.
He is a devil when it comes to statements and those things.
But he has never been violent to anyone.
He is a grown man.
And it is often the beautiful ones that are the worst.
So you are speculating that Kanye West is the best person in the world?
Yes.
Because he gets all his anger out or all the mistakes out of him.
No, but it wouldn't surprise me if he hasn't actually been bad in that way.
I think he has been very bad.
I don't defend anything, I don't defend Kanye. I haven't really gotten into it.
I've been so much with him that I've been thinking, I was in all the world.
He's become a part of the periphery. I think he has a lot of yes-people around him.
There aren't many interventions on the channel.
But it's something when you go so fast in the painting, as we often say, I have never been so much in touch with that term.
I like how it fits in the mouth, but I have never understood it.
I think it's smacking in the face.
But I don't know what it means.
When you walk so fast in the painting, it becomes a sketch.
If one of us suddenly knows from day to night, the next he comes in a Hitler uniform.
He comes and goes around saluting and all that.
From one day to the next I have become so nasty that I go in my own uniform.
What do you do? What the hell are you doing?
What the hell?
I know.
What is happening?
It's much worse if he comes in a nasty uniform and says,
and says, Hey Hitler, and starts to talk.
It's more like, what is this?
Than if he had sat in regular clothes and said to the boys,
Damn, I think we have to send all the excursions out.
So they're like, Hey Karsten, come on!
And again, it's worse to say that than to say,
I think we should lynch everyone.
Because then it gets too...
The harder it gets, the more tired you get.
It's like those who pull the duke away so that the talerks are still standing on the table.
If you pull it slowly, it will all disappear on the floor.
So he gets away with it.
There is something there.
Hard in the paint, or hard in the paintings, as it is called in Norwegian,
was the song with the same name signed by the rapper Waka Flokka, Flame, in 2010, I Go Hard In The Motherfucking Paint, the rapper on the chorus.
What it means, the expression has its language in the basketball jargon, and Go Hard In The Malinga describes an attempt to score in the narrow and closely guarded area right under the curve.
I still don't understand. What do you mean by that? Where is the painting?
I think it's difficult to get something,
and if you go hard, you get something that's difficult.
Do you have a paint?
I think it's about the painting on a slice of the curve.
No, it's under the curve.
That you're looking for something that's difficult,
but you go for it 100%,
and then you might have a bigger chance to get it.
Because there's a lot of painting in that area.
Aim for the bushes. Is there a lot of painting in that area. Aim for the bushes, like.
Is there a lot of painting in the shape of lines?
Probably, probably an area that is like this, I can't really tell.
Yes, that it is close, it is high density, high paint density.
In the, it is a stronger, painted area than the other parts of the respective basketball court.
That's good.
You can't play basketball?
Yes, but I was very bad.
The Greeks are fond of basketball.
Are you a complete Greek?
Half Greek.
I feel that no matter how bad you are in basketball,
you can't avoid being under a curve in defense.
I've been in both places.
It's so bad that you're only in the middle of the court. But I've never been in a curve in my life. I have been in both places. It's so bad that you are only in the middle of the track.
But I have never been in a curve.
You have never been in a curve?
Yes, but I didn't get to play much.
That's part of it.
It's like that.
If you look here, it can be something like this.
That there is a certain area, when you hold out a picture, under the curve, which is painted.
Now we see that it is within what is called...
Is it a penalty area.
Yes.
What is the name when you can get the most points?
Three points.
What is the name when you can get the most points?
Three points.
Outside the three-point line, inside, because there is a lot of painting.
Hard in the paint.
In the motherfucking paint.
In the motherfucking paint.
There you have the sentence.
And to conclude with what we talked about, the harder you go in the painting, the harder it is to take the knowledge.
Yes, that's it. There is no subtext. You know your text for a long time.
Very good. Now we round up, as I feel they do in the biggest podcasts, Thor Haralds podcast.
Yes, yes, yes. Then you draw all of them together.
One thing I noticed is that those who do this
profession best or most correctly...
It's you.
It's not me, in no way.
But I just listen to Tore Haralds podcast, for example.
And what they do is that they put up a...
When they are going to start a new topic, they put up a personal story.
For example, Harald, I was at a party with...
and then we painted a picture.
So it mixes a concept and a personal story.
Yes, a personal anecdote into a bigger picture.
And the script is not that difficult.
You just have to remember to do it.
And maybe write a little beforehand.
Maybe plan a little.
But yes, it is always effective, because then you get a completely different kind of relationship to the theme inside you.
So that it doesn't get so out of the way.
We will continue. Yes, thank you. the theme inside of it, so it doesn't get so very out of the way and inside.
We will continue.
Yes, thank you.
And yes, it will be, I mean, we have been a little inside of it, with different styles
and a style or a cultural identity, it comes from childhood and into youth.
You see yourself as a person.
You find out what you like and dislike.
But it is often based on a young taste or a young taste for example.
That I am a bourgeois or I am a guy like that.
That is something you have with you from childhood.
But isn't it weird as adults, now we are well up in the 30s, Jim is around 50.
We are 40.
And you are well.
Thank you.
I must say.
Nice man.
Thank you.
A nice man.
Shouldn't you sit down at a time and redefine your tastes?
Yes.
What you like and dislike.
Yes.
What you recognize and do not recognize.
From an adult perspective, isn't that right?
For example, be honest with yourself. I am the role model and the whole package, but forget about it now.
I sit down and just…
Do you like my lady?
I am a… I like my lady.
Is it my taste?
I am a damn good foodie.
Good foodie, yes. I am a huge fan of sweets. I am a fan of sweets.
And I have been a fan of young sweets all my life, because it has been a bit of a mess.
You have been stuck in a very snobby environment.
You haven't dared to say that you love sweets.
No.
In the grown-ups it's like, no, fuck it.
I am into that, and I am not a pizza man, I don't like pizza, it's just a waste of time for me.
They don't give me that much, I'm happy. I'm a can-sone man. I'm a ceviche man!
And now I've said it.
Can you order some simple ceviche for the boys?
Who wants cev serve? You?
Jørgen, if you are going to go through who you are as a person, have you made a decision?
Are you honest with yourself in everything? Or is it things you want to change?
Damn good question. You don't think, but that's it, right?
You think you like things you just take for granted that you like, if that makes sense.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Yes, I don't know, but then you have things you like from childhood,
but then you also have a more posing phase when you are perhaps in your early 20s.
When I went to Westral, for example, it was like,
they said that you read a lot of books that you had never taken on before.
And some of it can still hang in that I think like,
if I'm honest with myself,
if there is a table with the morning paper and the C&H,
and I am alone in the room,
then I have...
A rational dilemma.
Yes, then it's like, the morning paper, I understand that I have to solve.
It's allowed.
I want to pick up the story,
but I'm not sure if I will do it alone in the room.
I have to keep the life-song.
So those things will be more honest with themselves.
Are you happy to read? Be honest.
No!
No!
I'm not.
I work and I'm trained in text writing. I'm happy to read. I'm not. I work and I'm a text writer. I can tell you, honestly, I'm happy to read that.
I'm happy when I read and I'm engaged, but I can't prioritize it over anything else.
There are both Kindle and two books on the nightstand now, which I have read halfway through the book.
I just don't want to look at it. So it goes, Mime Kristiansson debuts on the 20th of February.
Mime Kristiansson?
No, no, no.
Talking about Ulf in his...
In the party that is most hated and easy to just sweep down,
he just maneuver like a fucking bank crane will go under and over these red lines.
But I mean, in relation to reading, I don't know if you can go into the category of determinism,
but that you say, ok, I like this and that, and you like Dostoevsky.
Is it more impressive that you like it?
You have just put together that you like it.
It's as easy for you to choose Dostoevsky as it is for me to choose to see and hear.
Fortunately, you have more intellectual basic interests for them.
It's not something you work for, I think I have worked for it a few times. So it's like someone should be so above others when it comes to cultural sobriety and that kind of thing.
I think you are lucky that you like those things.
Yes, I agree. And it's like when it comes to these old classics, for breakups and punishment.
I have tried it.
I have tried it. Even on sound books.
Oh, my God. Brothers of Dostoevsky. I understand that there is something there, but how can that compete with top 5 Koby moments
on Instagram Reels?
It's very difficult, but again there are other things that I can be drawn into.
And it's more historical things, and biographies.
I can choose that those. I can listen to sound books about the biography of Putin, for example.
Very exciting.
And it's a good thing that I think it's interesting.
It's not like I'm struggling to force myself through that book.
And there are many who may love these brothers Karamazov
and to dive into the in-between, and have my biography of Putin and oh my god!
Oh, that bastard!
No, not that.
But I have different interests.
And that's what I'm trying to get to life here.
What are we? We have to be honest with ourselves, Jim.
You are... And what do you like?
You are fucking awesome clocks.
Have you always known that? Or have you just been there for it?
I love this fucking thing.
I've always loved clocks.
When I saw dad when I was little, he had a beautiful clock.
I always thought that was cool.
Why was it symbolic? Or just...
No, no, just like... It looks very stale. Because was it symbolic? It looks very classy.
Because you are sitting with two clocks on you.
It is clear that you are fond of clocks.
If you talk about yesterday, two bad clocks.
It is very correct. It is a Kostan 975.
Not that it needs to be a bad clock.
Because as I explained to you before, it is an automatic clock.
So when I have it on the line, it charges itself.
So not the battery.
But I feel that the famous one who is really interested in clocks,
that it's not about the price, it's about the clock.
Isn't that the clock thing?
What did you do before the battery?
Yes, then it went on its own.
So the whole point is that the battery came in the 70s or 80s,
and that is what is called the quarter crisis.
And it was destroying the Swedish watch industry, because it was so cheap to buy watches.
Yes, because the craft was no longer necessary.
Yes, so you could buy something that was cheap, that made the job better, because it is more precise.
But in the old days, everything was mechanical, right?
So in the new times, there are many kids who think that everything is about batteries. But that is just a trend that has been there.
So you better not have that.
Yes, so always turn on the bells.
But the old classic bells don't have batteries.
But when you are in the Garmin and those types of modern bells, you must not miss it.
Yes, but they are rechargeable batteries again.
So what we are used to from when we are kids, it's a Casio watch with 10 year old batteries,
that you don't charge, but you change the batteries, take the whole back clock and then you change them.
But this, like the iWatch or the Apple Watch, it's just for training.
Yes, for different uses.
Are there any areas, but what is your favorite watch?
If you would choose one watch...
It's like...
When you are interested in watches, you think Rolex is the best.
Then you start to look into the watch world and think that Rolex is the best watch regardless of the price.
They make the most robust things, so it is even over the best design.
So, because I was interested in watches and didn't like Rolex, I came back and took the whole circle around.
And said, okay, Rolex is...
There is a reason why everyone likes Rolex.
Is it the clock's Ferrari?
No, because Ferraris are very expensive.
Rolexes are expensive for people who are not interested in watches.
The perception is that they are expensive.
But when you are interested in watches, you know that it's actually quite...
Was it behind?
Yes, no. You think that this is actually a reasonable price for watches in relation to what you get.
Yes.
So expensive watches when you're interested in watches, Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Richard Mill, a lot of that.
It starts at 500 000, but Rolex goes up to 500 000.
Yes, right.
Now I just realized that...
The Rolls Royce of cars, for example.
The Rolls Royce of cars, yes.
That's nice.
That's not stupid.
I just realized that these patterns in us are so built in, and it's so deep in us,
that I don't think we can sit here and rattle about what we like.
Not in such a short time, because I notice if I have a day off, I can be like,
but what do I really want with this day off?
I have also experienced that.
Because my idea is that if I get a holiday, I should go on a trip to the countryside.
Or should I do this or that? Or should I meet some friends?
But now I have a holiday, maybe I should read. I don't know what I want when I have a holiday.
I know what I want, and I have now taken a grip. And I will become old in the golf.
You will become a golfer?
No, in the golf. I have bought a golf.
Oh, that's a classic joke.
It can be both funny and it can be all the same.
Was it a joke or did you mean it?
It was a joke that came straight out of the...
I think it was a joke that came straight out of the...
I think it was a joke.
I mean that I will grow old in sports.
I understand.
There are so many people who are involved, and I thought that it was bad to just think about having some hours a day.
To have these cars that people drive in.
I will also get my cigar game, which I have talked about for a long time.
I have a humidor lying around with a friend, which is ordered from abroad and which I just have to wait for.
I don't have any cigars lying around and drying out, so I need a humidor.
But you should. But that's an American way to get old.
Yes, and I like that.
The golf thing,
but it's mostly about the sport,
and I think it looks cool.
Yes, and it's compatible with getting old too.
And you get good...
I play golf myself.
I get too angry to play it.
But I see that when you hit a hit in the golf,
I understand what people...
I understand that it can be dependent.
I respect that.
It's difficult.
Very difficult.
The concept is crazy, because it's like...
If someone says to you, just hit the ball in the hole with this stick,
if you do it at once,
on a low possible, you get a billion a year.
You have to think, yes, okay, and then it's just impossible.
But the most important thing, if you feel frustrated, because it is so difficult,
that you have to train a lot to control it a little bit.
And then there is a big sport, it costs money to be on the range. A friend of mine has become totally hooked, and he doesn't have the necessary tools to be on the range day after day.
So what he does is that he walks around on the Ekebergsletta, as he either thinks, either in Rabloffen or so dedicated and just waits and see. Find solutions. Because it's smart. But I am a dart man.
It's a bit like I'm just going in the forest with darts
and just throwing them on different trees.
Because it's so expensive to go to the pub.
And put them in the trunk,
and get them back in,
like a bow shooter
who goes and collects the darts from the liches.
But have you played golf?
I have, I was little.
I never played it again.
But that is something I just wanted to do.
It comes with the dig, and I can do it for a long time.
And I have taken it up.
I am just a bit careful.
You don't get anything on you. Did you sign up? I'm not really into that. It's pretty harmless, if you're a bit careful. That's right.
You don't get anything on you.
What did you sign up for?
The course called the way to golf, the green card course.
I took it during the pandemic.
How much did it cost?
A couple of thousand, I think.
But did you have any training before you took it?
Not quite.
So you learn quite a lot? You learn it basically. It's much easier to get a green card now than it was before.
Because before you had to take many several days and you had to go a round that was at a certain level.
But now you just have the basics, so the sport should be made available a little more,
should not be so fast.
So I played it for a little while.
And then it just happened that I didn't have a car then, or at that time. And time, and it's an advantage to have if you're going to play golf.
Take the bus with golf clubs, it's not cheap. It's like buying toilet paper. You can't do social sport.
You have to take your horse when you're have to go after work and take the bus out to IKEA. And go back with furniture!
With furniture on that bus!
Oh, damn!
I've done that many times.
It was in a younger man.
Yes, I've also done that.
No, to be honest, I haven't done that.
Because I've never been in a hurry to go.
The IKEA bus is free, right?
Yes, but I'm in a hurry.
I'm not in a hurry.
But I've been to IKEA bus with a car.
In adult age.
That's true.
And that's not so bad.
It's not bad.
Yes, it is. Because I was at IKEA now and was going to buy a new child seat for Teodor.
We have let him go now.
That means he is no longer in a crib seat.
He can go in and out himself.
Yes, we have that too.
And he is free. He is a free person.
He can do whatever he wants. It's a bit crazy.
But then we bought the bed and some different things.
And then there is one...
Some are on the camp itself, on Ikea there,
on Furuset in Oslo, for those who live here.
And then there is a camp right on the other side of the roundabout.
It's not like that. You can go in there. It's not ideal, but you can get in there.
Then there was one thing that was not an own storage.
It was a part of that bed.
It was the ones that sprang under the mattress.
And only that had to be driven in the cold floor to get it.
And then they had to first get something out of there, and then you had to say that I also had this part,
so I got a receipt for that. And then I drove to Kalbaken, and then it turned out that no,
you hadn't paid for it anywhere else no And then there is nothing we can do
So I sat back and had a son who was in the hospital and was going to lie down
And he was completely fine
Back and pay
And then I made a scene
A poor young girl who had to say
Yes, I can probably do something
That you can pay for it on the internet
I can probably do something
But then I'm in danger of losing my job and I don't want that!
And I want that! And then I said, you should seriously do something with your routine, this is not going well.
And then I had to do it. So that was like that. Then it's stress. But it's like, I'm a car. How stressful is it?
How stressful is it? Is it golf?
Imagine if you do it with a bus. Imagine doing it with a bus.
Oh, fuck.
And then I go on the router and check if I have to take the bus 2083 there, and then I have to...
It takes 18 hours to get that fucking shit on the cold floor.
And by the way, the Ikea bus actually goes to the cold floor, so you have to have regular...
Regular router.
You have to count that.
You have to change it.
42 kroner if you are an adult.
Fuck. It's a bit more expensive than that. You have to change it. 42 kroner if you are an adult.
But yes, it is...
You get crazy, but IKEA has made it with will.
Or at least that you should put up the furniture yourself.
They could have done it easier.
But...
Or a part of... you rely more on IKEA when you set up yourself.
Some research.
Okay.
Because you feel that you are a bit handy yourself.
Yes.
And that it is perceived as cheaper in a way.
Because it is not so...
Yes, it is, but it is cheaper.
It is not so insane Yes, it is, but it is a picture.
It is not such a crazy picture.
Not everything.
Yes, but to get a montage and stuff like that is quite expensive, isn't it?
Yes, if you are going to rent a montage.
It's like a story.
In the old days, in the US, for housewives, there was a finished cake.
One of the first finished cakes. Where you just had to…
A cake base?
No, it was a powder where you just had to pour it in…
No, it was just a regular finished cake.
Yes, like waffle-sauce from Toro.
Yes, but even easier than that. You just put it right in the oven.
Finished.
Yes.
That…
Like a half-baked bread?
Yes, in a way.
For the housemaid to make the day easier.
Housemaid?
Yes, but in the f Housewives get to do the day later. Housewives?
Yes, in the 50s and 60s.
And I thought, this should go as hot wheat bread.
Sold it badly.
But then there was someone in that business who came up with,
okay, we have to get them to do something themselves.
So they have to mix it themselves.
The components were there, but they have to mix it.
They feel that they have done something.
And then they sold it as hell.
And it takes less space as well, I think.
It takes less space as well, and there is some of the same aspect with IKEA.
That you feel that it can be cheaper because you have to do it yourself.
There is a big poster on IKEA now.
Thanks for buying flatbacks and saving the environment. Flatbacks are probably the solution to climate change.
I don't know, but it is.
It must be a lot to ship all these packages.
They are really good at stacking things.
They are king of logistics.
They have the best user manual. Have you tried any other user manuals?
I get so impatient.
They have very good user manuals. You have to follow them.
Yes, you have to.
I had other furniture that was German,
after random.
What the hell is that?
I don't understand.
But the reason why they are so good at logistics is that
I get extra pissed off when there is one component
that is supposed to be up there.
Couldn't this night table be picked up on the roof?
Yes.
But when there is one thing...
But that must be a mistake.
A mistake? No, it wasn't a mistake.
It was a mistake, and then it was clear to me that I didn't know I was going to...
Then you feel like you have to work for it.
Okay, you guys. What else have to put on the coat.
Are you going to the summer?
I'm going to be in Norway. But one thing, I'm going.
I'm going to Bilbao to watch the United game.
You're going to the match?
Yes.
Uefa League final.
Are you also a United supporter?
No, I'm not. But I respect football.
I'm a Barcelona supporter.
Barcelona.
Yes.
It will be fun.
What did you say? You are?
Barcelona supporter.
Are you?
Real.
Real Madrid.
Are you?
Yes.
Nice.
You know what? This is not a joke.
But I'm with a football podcast.
Yes.
And I have long said.
Franco's men.
I have long said that I wish to start a Real Madrid podcast with a Barcelona supporter.
Yes.
Because I think there will be a podcast about Real Madrid and Barcelona.
I think it will be a bit cool.
Yes!
Just because I have no hatred for Barcelona.
No, no, no.
In Spain they hate each other.
I think it's cool that they do well.
That the classics become cool.
Because it is the world's biggest fight.
100%!
Did you see last?
I haven't seen it. That was the one on Sunday. Yes. Because it is the world's biggest game. 100%? Did you see it last time?
I didn't see it.
That was us.
The one that was on Sunday.
Yes.
I saw the result.
Oh my god.
It could have been 10-0 to Barcelona or it could have been 5-5.
I mean, we're bleeding a little bit.
This is so scary.
We can talk about that after the air.
We have to do it.
Bilbao is good.
Go to the food store and buy some food.
It's going to be great.
It's melted.
There's a lot of rain.
It's good because it's in the dramatic football game.
You know what?
There's so much going on in the game and it's going to be great.
It's going to be great.
I was 13th and 14th place.
It's 15th and 16th.
15th is a bad word in L.A.
But I thought that this…
This means more than the Champions League final.
You know what?
It's all about the pace.
For the number of people in the world.
If you hate football, you can just screw it up now.
We've got a little bit of a…
I know. I know. I know. I know. And this means more than a Champions League final.
It's all about the pace of the game.
If you hate football, you can just screw it now.
We've got the sound of these people in good spirits, haven't we?
So you can just screw it now.
We've got everything we need.
The flag is played, right?
No, there will be a post-roll.
I'm not screwing it completely now. Have you guys seen my sister?
Hold on to her!
Wait a minute!
Thanks for the talk, guys.
It was very nice.
And to you at home, have a great weekend if you listen on Friday.
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