Fladseth - #280 - Sigrid Bratlie

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

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Allando. I'm going to be in, and there's soul on the morning. And plask rain on the etsmutagon. There, yeah. With a little solcrem, I'm glad for all the summer

has to be on. Updug beauty at Alando. We were going. We're going. I'm going to be flue when you come to talking.

No. Routtskholby, we snacked on not. We snucked up netto on Marit Colby, because she's been there.

But, Sigre, I'm back, I'm not, I've been, I've been I've been on it as a Klegg for the

I've been for a poor dorking right of course but you have been on my in over 10

years see I Kemp interesting from it was one I've been on a pre-lessing

for many years ago as tipsome about you and so I've not not sure me to

get to I'm in it but I think you you know what you work with day with

I'm super interesting and I digger you on a popular with a very-witenscapable I'm a hitch,

so I can not know about things, but I feel I've leased here, a little there, I think it's I'm dri-ed, I'll be girae of it,

but I'll think maybe more in-going. Yeah, it's a kempospenned. We can go have a little a voxen-uplaring,

but I think, you're really really good-leg-estet, that for to understand a deal of what's in-of-the-cichology, so,

so, you don't really to be really to be the details. It holds and shunner, over-ordened set, what that's going to be, for to understand how important it will be.

So, you'll bestem to where deep in the material we go. It's very beaugly for me, that's also a little interested in cosmos and so, and I'm not a few way, but there, I'm nudge me, and I'm just the story, build,

and so for the fagulk, da, so, for the technicalic. Yeah, very great, that. Are you not? Do you learn biolog? Yeah. Are it, first and the first and first and the first and the first, I tell you. Yeah, that is the, I play

to call me. People play, you know, to snubble little in the word, but it was you know

clack-rent from you know. I can find out on mansplaining little, and bestsive little.

And we'll say that if I, if I'm going to talk about fasting, that's

I've been with, and so, and so, and so, I'm a bit of a fan, it's

a bit of so, I, well, it's so, and then, then will you be still in feel in

it, I'll be not, I'm, I'm, I'm, It's, it's not, you're not

to say that when I I can so much about it, but I'm, I listen, I'll listen, I'm up on things, and I'm, like, to a

wisdom, and I'll listen to hold so much, that it's to take a confissed a wordering. Yeah. A relative,

cofissed, but you have right, when you say that it's a much spenned on modulat-n- -n-fasting,

so you have a belegg for that you say, though, so, even you can't not, even you can't

outprod there in the dub. No, it started I'm very fascinated, and it started actually, it's a little flaut to say it, because he's, he's,

and he's, and he's, and he's, and he's not, but it's not, but I, I don't know, it's not,

I've got, I've heard a little different about him, David, St. Clare in the aftertid, what do you

about? Because I'm yeah, I'm really fascinated of the first book of his, there,

and so. Yeah, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, , so, so, so, so, so, so, I'm, so I'm maybe of what he says, I think, can't be a little tabloid some times, and so I think, I, can't be able to, some of the conclusions. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, kind of, what's-shawned, little more forebehold, but,

I'm, and, I'm very, and it's, and it's very, and it's-any-spendening, that's-in-for-lenging, and, that's-allenged, It's what's longevity, or life's forlengen technology, and that type of thing. I think it is full-mullly for menacek or live

to at least 150 years. And that is not tabloid, either? No, I mean it's got wittenscapable belegg for to hevde something, and it is a delves based on that we for it to tell with forksuxtyr,

the answerning, long out over what is the normal, the normal, forevented levelder. If you go on with all to have, of methods and technology, so can we stretch in the life's length with around 30%

out over what's at least of the maximum and principally, so are you not no in way for that you can do with people. And there are no one thing that's possible, so rent biologic,

and up with 30% then come to around 150 years. But then you can live very ascetic, it's not quite so gay, but that it's theoretically more, that I think I. I feel that the most

I talk with that's in for nature-witenskapen, they say, it's a long way from forsook-stir to people. It's almost all say it in one-gang. Yeah.

But that is right. It's right. Yeah. But when we first are in on this, I have, I have, I'm,

so, Sigre, now I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

probably, cobbled on A-I in this life my. Yeah. I sit in on,

I, I, yeah, I, I let, strumke, oh, fan,

Fandens old-mort. I can. I know what it will say over-ordened. I've been ready for to be newtment technology and opened on Dora's esk.

Because, as, as some, like, social media and so, so, so, you know, not really,

how, it can kneble you, so I've been really red for that. But in the postkin, I,

shirte on, and it has worked a lot lot-lister my, and stick-stit of my, long, and cronged it,

But I've fought much good also. I just just just I'm going to

I'll let's look up here because in January 2006 so I've got a Boston

salescap called Life Bio Sciences FTA in goodcending to

to start the menckly forci on this with allders reversering

and that is that you are that you have been on long

that for the first that alder shall be set on a sykedom, so that it will spit of more money in

in the research. But are it right that it now, that it has been to be a fart on the thing here? Yeah,

that is really right. And it for some years ago, so it a sort of classificering

in, you know, in medicine, so have some medisins codes, you know, put on

a little diagnosis code for that it should be as a lot of medisinsic relevant.

And allring in self had not no code, medisinsic code. But so, upretted in a

new, which was well betignated some like olders-related psychdoms or something now, where it

plutslely then be legitimed to try to work for a medisins' formal. Because we

we know that aldring, all of the endring that's the endring that's the bestest

riskof factorn for very many of these allders related sydomene.

So if you can bremse aldring or reverser aldering, or it's the process then,

so will you potentially could have got quite a medical medical of it, and bremse for example,

heartysyctom, dementia, Kreft, and all of these other tilsanded. Yeah, that's the I was so

fascinated when I began to to listen to this here, because it's not no luring is the reason

to that we be scrupley, all, you see, you see, you on, us, the hair,

all, just, they fall, and so, we. And this is what you have jacped up in all year in the youngdomscied. It's not not really

that you're getting, that's it's not really umphor and the youngdomshilden it's the two, it's the two the two sturt.

We have so that it's, we have so to find the swarending on it. But, and so, so you have,

with all, with all, with all, you, there's, you know, one thing is, yeah, And the

tilscuh Metformin, and rapa musin and a one of the plus to all this

here I've sitting to listen to where when you can slough to say

that it is a bank this this this is this is the sameensate this

here. But in all the all the positive to hear that you have started

and in a at that you have started and to

experimented with men Yeah, I experiment with a menskechette. So, just, I hate it. I'm not to let's listen. I like to have a, one stick word, and then freestyle out of it.

But I'm a little technicality. And so, technique, that's called partial reprogramming. And so, there's no more to yame, ma'acka factorne. And show, hey. This can, you know, much more.

This can I. I think to do it so very technicalic, either. But what's going to be gammal, there are very many things that's same-tide, certainly,

but one of the things that are the genet in the celln in the, it's actually is software your,

that's that's all the work in their job in, they get some justerings on, hold-pos-

-u-instilling in the lup of life. It comes some, kind of chemiske-lapert that fester out of the DNA

and that can upfure so anledes, and that it can be to be game, It call we epigenetic. And it can you actually

mola. And it is, actually a very more precise model on your than the chronological alderner. So, how long you have

lived? It is to see on epigeneticin and see, how gamel are you biologics. It can be more informative.

But what you do, with these the things that now are to actually wash, or fashveck, or ferned a deal of

the merkelap that, so that celling actually go like, like, back in all their nest.

Like the plata have been slitted also in an analogy that's been used to much. Yeah. Yeah.

So you can get uprette some of the original instilling it's like like a reboot on PC in when you

when you get uprette fabric instilling or on your phone it's a little that you do,

and Yamanaka factorne, it is no enzymes and things that take these merkelappen

that sit there and actually again upretter the out of the back again to the

Stamcellar, that is what you were, when you were a newly-befructed egg, so were you, so were you, stort-set, just a lot of stamm-cellar who didn't even than,

completely open, and that's what you're doing to do, get inoprette, the system in these cells, so that they can go to back to be young. But this is

what you have done on the longer, but now begin to help with people. Yeah, you're trying to try to try, little different things.

This is a example, this is a example, on very many in different methods you can use for to try to

bring up the cell and and the problem is you say there's a quite long way from

the for the people, we think it can't but we know not it so you always

also, you know now in the out of the out of the out, if you should look at

you can live very much longer so will you need to have quite long time time to

do the first thing. So we come not to get to get the first thing but this

is a start place. And it has been done other small experiments on people,

where they have tested a little other thing but that does the same for young

of among that immune forcevvary and see that on this I think

was middle oldarning men who that got two and two and

a half year to back stilt the biological clock in

cell So it is theoretically to beaulking in the retinion so that we can rest of let's slowly to spole

to back in the time. I think it so spedeney. And I am, I work with a lot of

life-sidels and then I'm sure, I am glad to co-me also. I'm you know drink some

wine, and so just I feel like that I over-leg-alt and it's so I draw us

very in two different in two different I'm, right of the st, what's hetting, what's the rike David Johnson? Brian Johnson.

There's a much of me as well as well, I will be Brian Johnson. But will you, I will do it? It's for a life, do you just be after a super-strength regime

and never under you know what thing. I mean, that's actually is important for to eldes-sunt. It's not just how long you live, it's how soon you live.

It is to have it It's a good, hilly to have a social life. Metap. And not. And not yet. And not stress, and try to so over the things

there. Yeah, absolutely. So if you go to stress in rev of it, so go winning up in spinoing. Yeah. I feel like that him.

But I think it's spendent. I think it's a many who are really unstruelly untrissant. But I can't not necessarily

that you can't necessarily that you're unthricent. I'm glad in life, but it's just, I don't, just, I can't feel like,

could feel like to feel like frisk long. It's what it's that's the that's

that's that's not, I can't not, I'm not, but there's whole point in the point is

that it's the biological clock that you want to ender. So if you if you be over

hundred years then, so is the point in that you can be frisk to you are got

over 100 years, not that not going out of the yavly then have misforestot

the thing yeah but it's a question Well, the biological grinses that actually

exister, it's been in around 120 years. And then, if you live quite optimally, so as Brian Johnson drive me,

he's quite optimal, so can you know push up to 120 of, and live relatively good. But the

story is, is, we go out over that. Should we go on with advanced technologies

and really push lifeets It's a grense-for-by, maximal-alderen our. And there it really begins to be spendent, for I think it also is possible. Yeah, and so is it a class-spersmowlossomal, for it will be a dearth.

So it will be a little bit of a lot. You've got this on a blorecept, for to say it so. No, but it'll be, yeah, maybe, it's, maybe, it's, maybe, it's, can't, it's relatively well-stow-stow-s, since mid-classes. But it will

like a class-skillet there. When you have not to be able to, you have not to sell reversing and so longevity sure. We see already

the tendency in the USA. It's also Silicon Valley that is, in these technologies. And it

rictus you that a deal of these very rich technology million billion

or philanthropes some of they go and sparer on young blood, from young people

because we know that in the blood, so she'll it's a lot when it'll be gammel and that

young blood has an foregene effect, and the mostsat effect, that it is

that is that's bad for it. That's it's like the eldest the elest the tiltake.

It's is nesting but it has no for some is it is a little same as

to get some of some barsh from to frisk in the tarmine, right-shed? Yeah, it's two different biological systems,

but it's a little same. You can, and it's actually vised also that, again in the dearer-forsuch, but if you putter tarm-inholds from an gammal mus, in an young mus, so will it the young musa much dourlier and scrupplier,

and, mostat, if you take tarm-inholde from an young-mus and overfer to the old-to-in-gammle, so it will, then, then, for ungette, and for more nerve-celled vexed. But that is because that tarm-floraan

are extremely important for health of their. And when you come to the bloat... When you come to the bloat, so is it serely the immuneforsvare. I mean, in blood,

it's there, blotel, that is quite important for to hold you from infections, and hold a craft in shack, and there are

many roles that immuneforshore here. And when you be older, so svitter a lot of the immune

functions. And then have you much stere risk for to be sickly. So, to have a good, to hold on, to say,

unct in munforsvar, is one of the best effect, and it's not likely that for the blood experimenter so good. Yeah, you're sent? This is, not an upfordering to people to drive to assemble in an unct blood,

but for hopefully, so can the researchers find out what it is in the blood that has the effect, and make a medicine out of it. It would have been much better. I just, I just think of that fucking Sam-Ault man and gutta

are sitting in, sort of, dart waders, tanker and just drit up in their own and so drit up in their and blood in the young.

Yeah, but that's what they do. And they have actually, what's really so sick now is that it's Sam Oltman and Elon Musk

and the gangen that are the that's going in on the biotechologifel now and invester in start-ups and

not just just for to live a long, but also for to genredigere from-tidger generations and

barn and so. They are all in I'm not sure on, I think it's there are they who are the

who are the so on the way to start in the spisen for the development? No, uh,

was it fake or was it an air of the same time between Putin and Xi Ping? That was

it conspirated of that they could live in every most, what's what's see with that?

Yeah, it is stuff of nightmares for to say that so. For those who didn't hear to it,

they've put up a little light up when Putin met Xin Ping and Xin Ping Shinging?

Shi, are it a better Shi, you're saying maybe? And a little light clip from a same time.

They didn't. They didn't. They didn't. They were put on. No, so it was taken up in a hemeliet. Yeah,

and they begin to be the gudder there, you know, but they, but, but are there no one who

dreamer of the young overskill, so are they. Absolutely, they should to continue to steer

with hard to the the last slut, if they can live to the 150. We know that

the people are hold on in 20 years both both and they're quite, they're they're

being a drit up to the hoften there now. They are all in... Both

metaphorical and factis if they drive with so on that offfuring and offer

from other they are I see for that it are the gutt are in the

gutter It's, it's, there's no one who thinker that they should cry and preserve to fris it need for to even if it's been if it's

not these, all these life's forlengen method not, so can they can they perhaps frisle to becked up in the front time.

It also is a little, I'll say, a special business, there's just a story about an man in USA who drempe on private

cryo-vict and all these the customers that frused out of after was a problem for he had it financing to hold

and going on and he had not he had not to put the croppening in the same tank and it let out in

his, no, my mind my my mind, my mind you are, I've been, and so it's a little netoo for

these guys, they are on top and so they're just they're just they just they're just they're just

they're in the same place they are hierarchical when they wokener again but sonsunely there are some other

that have taken over so they might they they get they to job so up again or in

for a story, it would have been a little of an eventur if they'd have wokened up in a whole other time, and so he'd be able to get

to back again to... Snack on to sit in two periods. But I've always thought on it, first time I've heard

about it, it was the goodest Olin Martin Mohn, philosophian, who then first transhumanist I heard on, had he had

in a other podcast that's called Jorsmon, that I had there. But to talk about this here. And I've always, Philosophistic, so is

it's a truly spenna. But the tank on that you can bezes down and and so potentially it can you

be hundred or years a year, maybe a year till you be vect again. Or, or that you should be

to be to gore through the universe and maybe be plucked up on an other civilization there out.

Think if if you have on a planet where they elsker and tin up roomfarer that come

from other and sexually misbruke they on the grovesest in all eviet. It can be in shept in. It's going to know of that it, it's a full angst on a new level.

It's, but it's potentially the worst the tanking of hellvete in, as you can actually live, then. Yeah. I think, for my

own deal, that it can't be better to try and to live, max, like, live in the life

than the here and now. And when it is slut, so can it like so it's good be at the end, I'm not really

super-read for to die, so it's not I'm not really, I'm always I've always been atheists, so I have no longer, I have no longer, I have, I've got, I'm, I've got, is that when you're when you're in, so... You know, in a slack,

so psychedelic, when you're just, end-less, unendive feeling, of, either smearth, or life. So you can, end-in-go- to come in in a good trip,

or a bad trip in all evaity, and it's so. And it's so shrewmelled out both of both things, but it's

just out of being put on to see, the humble and hellbete. I think it's not to see, I

think it is just lights out. It's a overgangspase there. There's a something that that they

have been very dead in there and who come to back, have had a transition phase but I think it's

no more. I thinker that you're more, I think you in the liveets cratslop,

the story. It would have been very abstract, but it could have been for an even with quantum physics and the things that are,

that you're just a small feeling of either like, so rigged, but it's a hell grusom on the idea, for me

the worst of all. Yeah, and I'd not live ev in it, all the whole can you go to be

in the could be I'm not, we are so what we're where were we, where were we, blet-t-tip-trap,

We can go in... We have a slacks Delt up in some slacks Categorier here. Let us just go to... If we are in on his clare, then, so we're in there. Super-popular,

wittenscap-ly, to the thing, and one of the most chented international in for this feldt. But there are very many others who, who are...

But he can, you to let's say so that we have been in 10 years a pill. So, in a longdom, should be that you can reverser all right. And I reckon that the pillen is just a samonsetting of all these tilscuttenes

that he leffle with, and I also have napped in and I see, I saw, it was a professor on blinder who said in a medicine forlesing that metformin should have been

in drink the and so it has it been a little controversial around it and up and back around metformin

it's a diabetes medicine but when I let me get on it okay

I had a I was a I was a pre-diabetic on I have lived a life

I said I said I said it and okay metformin reverser reverser bloodsucor

the longtis bloodsucre and end up way, insulin resistance and so and just, and it's been

not being talked so much about, yes, sure, now for the fa'n on it. And so

there are you these NAD plus tilscuting. So then you have some forlopre because you can not just

just can't just it will not be in the blood in the termen in the

so you have some B-vitamin acty greer. Check on that also

I. I reckon that this is, I reckon with that this piller just is a small capsule with all that I am. Yeah, factis,

so will I say that no-so lignor on the pillen is already to lingergely. Okay, I lytur. I lytur.

Yeah, but now I say something is a little controversial but I think is, metformin

is, as you say, a diabetes medicine, and in In the way to just to just doing no with bloodsucker

so it's it's it's not what you that's it's not it's

it's it's it's how you can't so what you and a

other medicines are to help say to try to to think

that it's not so much there not so much so many so

it's so with the people in the part of for

It's this that's what's that's like to screw off and on the gener. Yeah, it

does it yeah, it's very very different but it is, but actually is the stuffshifted

energy for the celln't are really for how you'll elis. If you

whole time for serely succor but there also other

other than other than other so sure so sure so sure so it so is it

so it so it's all the all the system it's like it's like to be

the whole tool total, whole time. So if you, these medicinem

do the same as if you should have fasted actually in practice, it's not, you know, and it's not

a little iner, and it's a lot of way, which then does you don't have gas in the bond whole time,

but you chure a much more forcikti. And in some time, actually, so can you

do, then up to end up to nearmes it little, because cellene when it

are to reparer also, when it is not much inerangly. And the pill that's actually is, next

version of metformin, that is we go-wee. Yeah, because it does it do. It's slank, spruiter. It's a slankeroy. It's a diet's meditin, actually. Yeah, it's slanker it's pructor. It's, it's fungered in the same way, that it can't affect in cell.

And in addition, to reduce the vecten in, so, it's, it againstore, little, in, as I said, it takes a long-tide, it takes long-tide, to get long-tied-data, on something that you can mowler over long time which will say aldering and death.

But we think that We go over and metformin and a deal of the other medicines that fungered on the same way have a forebuegene effect on a deal alders-related

tillstanners, for example Alzheimer. And that is for it because it can how fast aldering can. It is what actually is the whole hemmliaten.

So, the pill, that he talks about in a little an simple form, sandsyieldly and this is

not an upfordering for people to uncritics to be go well, metformin. Netop

because we need to the longtid data and to see also which the need to be

if we can know if this is a thing that is what you did with metformin was to

test it on some that if you began to do it in a got in a

got to be able when you had it had it actually met met

met form met of the they've asked. You all the felded as

fortier. So it is a deal riskos and uncounted factors that we must have insight in

before it is for sure to give no one of some else medisinsic road around this,

but in the of the we go over now, so are we in a great experiment. So the

data we come we to get to be for me for me, for me, for me,

there's just there's just just some have used it, But VEGOVI are very outprette. So I am very spent on what we come to see now over many years, the who are going to,

on these teignen that we have set, on that it can have a positive effect on aldering and health, if it holds in length. I heard of one who went on some slank medicine, this is a few years ago we, we'd carry, really come, but that it was snucked about, I've slanked not just around the but it was slanked up in the

iron. Is that right or is just? That's not. That's not. That would you, I don't know. You will not have for little fete in the

brain. You will have a good balance there. There can be feint and good. But what's the important is, is the cholesterol in the yearn,

that can be the risk of your for Alzheimer's. So, so long you have a, I can say, a sunsetset of fat and cholesterol,

so will it be optimal. But this is now we must see over time. Yeah. And so, I'm going to take it all the

much-critical. I feel that metformin and these one of the plus forlopers, of all that I've leased, are they that, that's, that might, something that can function, fine. I think I very... Yeah, I take, so many... Yeah, it's very...

Yeah, it is, on the immuneforsvare, and it are stuffers, that are furskut-nocked on, to say that this is trikt, this is a cost-tiscud. It's a type of B-vitamin, actually, in the practice, I'm at,

NMN? NR. It's the best data ground on. Yeah, that's it, I'm it's a whole.

It's a whole, I think it's a special, and so, I always say, I need more placebo in life my life,

if not. Yeah, it's not for you know for you. It's not underrerelead it. I can go a little

in on, we were in on it, we were in it, this has you heard of all

year, stem cell forcining, I have thought often to have been a little sorrig in my that I should be able to

make the stem cell on the time at the time, is it for sheen, you know? For you to dirke organer

or something? Or what would you use? Spurred you me, so I'm phama with you,

because I see on, I see you when you come to alderings is there not to luror on,

that there can't things with o'er. I see just on my son for the first and how things

grower on and then we're talking about I'm also I just I just when my my own

when I was younger groded very that is right yeah so you

nearer you are the the better funger you yeah and when you think about all the

the I've done some cell celles so had it had not it had not

been unhensigsmessing, and had the stamensel. I was very, very young, on the Lager. You could have

taken from Navelstrenen, for example, when you had been born. That is what you had been done.

They had you have been much to different, and it's quite sally, if you have been

not, if you have been taken to the stamsellelne, for they can be actually what some else.

And so, you'd do dirk up, for example, little heartve if you've got a heart infarct so can you lap up with your own

cellar, it would have been really very newty and that's I think I'm in business, but in other land so are you

people who are people who start from the navletstregen to the barnas to when they get them back to my my name

my sonn't my. You sparting not no. Why did I had I had I a pose with some vests and

just slag it right up in there and put it in fruiser and post right to a lab, and it's going to be able to, and then it's going to be able to be there,

and then has son my stem cellar on, just to be able to just be able to be a fine kildo in the front of the medicine. But, it's here we come in on the technology also, it's not sure that it is for sained, for you for you.

For what you can do now is to take the cellarer who already are voxen in your to spole to back this epigenetic so that they will be as

stem cellar again. And that test you know, for patients with Parkinson and then then take, for

example, hudceller, they reverser them to be stemceller and dirke from new nerve cellar from them,

and then, transplanter they in for to restate the gernevevee that has got tapped. This is now

in the research studies. So it is not that all hope here out,

even if you took over on the navletrengen that's the same. But say, but if you go in in the rigmorgin, have we not still stamsceller there,

yeah, but they are, there's a different on stamm cellar. The stemcells that are not, are not as as we call it

on the fagsprock that, they are not so blanked arc as you can they are on a way to be blotceller

allered, they are just just been all right, so they are a little bit so, so they are

so the stamsceller that are really a a whole blank arc that's on-trent fosterstade,

which can be what's what's all. And it's that you're there's a mannaqa factor or

a little for to scro back in the time. But that is in all the bitonscaply

and technologically and so there's a again, so it's always so with some of we come with

some we're that's a little chadly but that we're we're we're just

we're going to be quite we're that the celles that the to be stem cellar, not take

with the own to be in the concept to be a craft. Because when you blanner, in a vuxen cell with stem cell

and it could do thinkly that the cell have upfurt so there are some things we must be sure on.

But I think it is full-mully and an fronttid that we are in in, where you

then have taken cellepr from their own and to doke from

the own organer or or veve. It It would be very acute, if you need to be unmiddleb, so it will

be very difficult. But if there's no you know, if you know, for example, that you have lunger that you have longers that will be a lot of longer

to do you, from new lungive from the stem cell your, it's a deyle to hear I'm just ready for that I'm going to be up in the

hour and just could live so much longer, but sorry, you should be spared on spart on spart on spatt

stem cell in because you are fairly. But maybe it's a business in to be in to be a stem cellaragring to

folk? Are there no wits or have you to have you know of a young baby's

stem cellar when it not your not even cellar to say that Sam Oltman with far

to be a whole coo at now that the rich drive and start and steal

babies and for to get a cell cellar you have a very you will have a

problem because it often are problem with to get the

whole of the whole organer from a donor, is that there are uliphets

between these immun types of we have, which you have you have an friend, so will immune-forshavre

react if it was a friend-invasion and go to agreep. So, you will be a storretheworthy

for that it will be a more reaction, if it is a slackning, but if it is a whole

person, so is the is the same lot for that it will have been very low for that for it is so attractive

to dirk from stem cellar from from their own crop, for then are they not no problem. No, I think, with all that, with CRISPR technology, all, I think I'm, if you have a,

a much unbesuddled stem cell from an other baby, that it's not in, that it's got in and, on a lot jobless on that when it's meld in,

yeah, it does it, and you're all right, and that does you also, CRISPR is, you can readger in, it's getting, pisser,

pisser, not, pisser, not going to vassey in Beiber, yeah. But you can screw off the genies that it will be an immune reaction.

It is really, and that is just also with, for example, in craft-behandling, when you take white blood cellar from an donor to an other patient, so can you can be

off the genene that it will be a problem. So it's really, and the front-tiden is also potential there. But then,

then I think I, if you can't care it, so we also sandsuiless to durke from the stem cell from your body, and not to take it from a baby.

That's what I hopeer, in a lot. But so is it a problem, actually in some land, so it's a problem that you drive

with a deal unlawly organhandle and so, fromdelless. The Squid game, you know, it's not, it's not,

or to say it's so. Or, or, or, Fengions' insotter, that forego in a deal of I don't know.

I don't think on what's like to look at these Uigurne hold on me in the Fangelearner not. Not I,

not I think about it. There are it Squid Game and Lowe along, as hells, I'm not. When we're Napper

then, now are it over 10 years since the research of really set fart, they took

the, it was a Nobel Prize for four, five years also. Crisp technology, short forklart to

these who are really swinging, can you can't. Yeah, that can I. It is, metaphorically

said, so is it a text-rediguerings verter for genes. So you can go in in the genetic code,

and so can you over-programmer, or write on the code, so you will. Biologics, so is it

an immune-fors that bacteria have to have to be to be able to use. Theologian is not text. It is a physical thing,

so you know, so you know, so you know in with some, but that we have we taken off from bacteria, and so clip we and limel little

to gendene and setter in new code. Yeah, absolutely. Sending a virus in, and with a little information

we have wanted to put in there? Yeah, you can use a virus, or you can use another or,

I can use a enzyme, and it is, I'm, like, enzymes, you're many important

opgav. It is, actually, a protein, that can cut it in DNA. And so has the enzyme with a little string with RNA, that lingne on DNA code,

who it's going to put it. But for to get it in in the cell. Now, it begins to be a little technical here, but you must get in in a cellar for to end up on the DNA that is in the cell. Then you can you enten bring a virus that's not longer is, in a virus.

It just is a leverings mechanism, a truancekest, that's shioter in crisper. Or you can use other method for, you must just get it in the cell membran

and in in cellen. So you can use some fettparticler, blont an same as we had on COVID-vaccines,

these MRAVosin so pack it in in these fettbblers that smelked together with cell membran. Yeah,

there are different methods. They who are so critical to MRI vaccines, have they have they kind

not really that these two technologies hanged very together, or they come not out of the blue the MRA in the

when you did it's very very fremstrit under the pandemic, so was it based on the research

that already had come to quite long. Absolutely. It had been for sure

in many years, in the regime of the American military arts

research ofdeling. So that was actually good to go when pandemic

came and it was on scalerer and it to

to make the of the capacity, yeah. Now we, where are we

in day, when it comes to CRISPR? What can you do? What can you do? We can

do very much good with Krispy. Yeah. And I are in Krispy fan. And it is

very two things. It is in mat-production. So, we tweak on biologian in mat-planter and so

to do more effective and more more for the foodings that come for matproductions with climaendringer and sop and smitten

and so there in sykdomsbehandling where you can go in in in the crop cellar just. Just take the matproduction first

because I, so many other coes me very very with the program with Joan and be bonned and I

dreamer me to a other life where I also are bonnet for you feel like slid some with an very easy

and dig to for hold to be it's been it's been big just just very

hand-fast, okay, unassette. Slaguer still is a little between ecological drift and conventional

drift with, with, I'm going to spray, or so, for, to hold

ugress in the and there's a lot of so, some, so, such,

you're, who you want to be quitt, or hold in shack. This is all,

this is that is that, Chris-Brod GEN-modifers modifersersers It's what are you what is it

what is going to stop for a lot to slip these chemical in? Now, now can I set in going with a rant if you will

not ecological or so can I take it a little more constructive to the in and say that there are many things

with ecological matproduction that on paper it is quite it's a bad, it's a bad

tanked. But it to have done to have done to finden or something that or something that you can't

be with, is the sturdest tabbens they could have done for they. But are it, are the, those who are you like to have

GMO, he either? Okay, but they mean they are the same? Yeah, so historically set,

so have many of the GMO, so gen-modifistered products that have been developed, have hanged with spruiter. That you

do plant resistant to spright-Midels, and so you, the, like, the gen-modificated

planted with spruettlement. And that is the arven and it is also a cardinal tabbed

from the industry in side. You could have used gentechnology to very other things

that had had had more more more more than more, but it

did you not. You're not it on the same had to be good large

marginer, not on inteming. But there are very many examples

on that if you use if you use on planta to do do it

to doonstrity to do self smitten or the virus or what it now is that is problem so will you

use more more than smyrtsmidler and also have ecologists sector in Norway

but also a lot of other land have demonized the whole technology even even

even if it really is it would have passed it would be it would be passed as the whole

in handske and use biologian to do not to do you're in better more than you do you know,

gener are the most naturally that's in whole world. And all of the plantins and other that

produce is an result of 10,000 years with genetic for bedding and avl. It's not

in the naturally. For to say it's not, it lingner not in the whole at on the

wild natural slectinemines that you that you had, and like well it's it's that it's

that it's is not that it's not, that is it not. And here it's

to actually have to use the technology to be a form of a and a answerly and also

to do it so good as much I can't it not. No, you know, it on

very short time, it's done over very, very long time when it comes to to avle

from cornsorts, sauer from some some small jayvel up in fielerhusa

to be to be a sweres there was a seven over. It was a skisgraper of wool.

I've just got on all the clapper there for to get the so... But so on all they're always they're doing.

Yeah, so this is a hurttie version. It's a mind it very on chernicrafts. You have just

just made to on the alternative costnan. And I'm just say when we first are in on it

that, that one of the first thing we have when they get matproduction

is real the real product. We use I not dig-bara

area or something on, on on the on the on the and we not to use, and we're in

more place. It's the most bad-to-mil for the way. And ecologicalical, even if it

are no fordellel, so it's you're quite enormously to be enough enough productivity

in plants. There's some, there's no ethers with different, but with

plants, is you all essential for that we not going to end the clodens and they

tried so, and they proved so, with a lot of the next over night to full ecologic production by to be all of all the kuntzvilsel and spruitschidler and all

mulderart. It was a whole catastrophe for mattsickrithen to befolk the people. We are not to do not much meat to people without to use for much place. And that can't even modern technology, deserre. You are one in that it is

lured to go little sacked in sving in there also, because it's, you... Yeah, but the... Yeah, but the question is, When it when it when it's I'm

quite I'm in there have you over in the self been

done that the the life has been out

when when it when the other we're we for the

first we have we have very we have quite

to get all the we have put the

when the matter when the matter what is

what is risk by that it go a lot. It is a very ullent argumentation with that, for example, if you avle very fast,

if you use it crisper on a potet, and tweak it for to do the modstansdye to dop, it's a great problem

that potetbund has, so will it be a problem for it go for a fort. But alternative are to crissed it

in over 20 years, from an other potet. That has it can't do it. I don't

and not do it and continue to continue to use all of the is prouquetel. I'm much more. And a potet, , comeer not to spree. It's nother. It's not that. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. I'm not. It's not. I can't... I'm not. ...itue. I can't... and over-ordinated.

It's something I want to... It's fine that it is some conservative crafts, and it's really in the politics. I've seen that it is... It's a little lured, it is there. That you have no, some hold it again. But you have to hold it on the right-in-in-you-hmm. I must have a little bit more so.

We must have to take a little pauses. And then, then, we're going to be over to CRISPR and when you come to doer and men'sker. Yeah. Okay. And for over, for over, something has a whole mind-blowing for me. Now, we're in on pissing.

Now, I'm so... It's spent. That all Urine Be filtered from blood That's right So it's not You sanders,

I go up Just like a mass Veske In blare You're first Through blood So filteres Out from the blood

Yeah I think That's just to You know, you I'm a molecular biolog And not So there's a Little grance

on anatomicon But I I think you are Right in it Yeah And I've I've always I've always

I've always I've always thought I've been I've done sit to drink oil, that it's going right

for you and it's going right for you, it goes right it go right in and you're not, it's not, right. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's, right. It's not. It's... Yeah, okay. What was we? Chrisper? Mensker. What can you? What can't do? What can't be? It's... that's

lowly and in the high highest grade in full-sving is medisines medical care where you can

yeah, either you can you repairer genes that are that's sick, for example, so there's a

sickdom that's a sigdcella anemone, which is a genmutation that blood cell celles are and scrockete

and not not able to transporte oxigen orntly and they who have the systemen will often

very very, you know, and to have very much blood-overfurings and so on. But there can

go in more crisper in blood cellen and reparere genfeil or get the function that's

mangler, and get the blood to upfure and they are in, and it's in, cut you

the sequence that's going to the sequence, and then restate it or, you're,

you're, it's what the mutation is, but you can, in the

The utterest consequence go on to end up to say one of these bookstavre, which is actually are chemis baser, but I don't know

if you don't know if you know from biologitim A, G, C, A, C, A. N. No, that's what we call

these these biggerlosses in DNA, they have some of better out one with one other.

So you have around 3 millioners of these biguclosences in a molecule, and you can

go on to take one of them and you can go to, I I think I'm,

I think of that there have control, You have control. You're doing their great. I sit on side-line and give me in the

but it's just fantastic that sickly sick people can be curate. You come not so very much more more than that there also.

No, that is a whole... So, and in kreftbehandling, for example, so can you take immunseller and, by the

help of, either, or other type genetectomology, so can you set in new genetic programvare

that do that the immunecells can let up craftceller who try and jemme and take and nerte the criften. And that live we,

then, barn and voxena in a day that else not ever will have lived. But when you know,

for example, the sycdomers that not let's say Alzheimer's. What are it like, because you can't

be cart-lack where you have not not quite in and do do it, or do you get no medic, or

the question is, if it is, it's a question, and it's, there are a little

different to that can get Alzheimer, there are no one who have very high risk for to get Alzheimer and get it in relative young old

there, where there is a clear, genetic orcetic to that. For there can see some gene, what can refer to it. Yeah, it's a, a, poe,

if you have an version of that gene, a special version of that gene, so have you very high risk for to get Alzheimer. Why can you

can't, can you can't, you know that, but for the first so it's it's quite very with the cellar

with the cellar and the and there. For the other there's there's very, very,

very, many many cells you should have to have effect. So, that is a little

very difficult, but what is the more spenning on Alzheimer's it, it's not

crisper. No. It is the science and biotechelogy in combination. I think

we are actually foran a shickly end of Alzheimer's for Alzheimer's for the

because you can use intelligence to design medicine medicines, which are biological molecules, just as long as you will. It is in a day, it's now.

It's on the first now, this is a lot of years ago. This is a half-an-a-old- year ago. I have it.

I can for clarify it with an other example, that is little less than for a lot of if you have

a type of slange-gift. But you don't have no motifs, so we'll know how it go.

And if you can't have the ability to then find or develop the motifs now with with the

intelligence, so can you just design the genkoden for an motocifft molecule, and so

it's 100% of the time in for surestir. And that can you do do on many

other other other other example. We slite with that

bacterions be resistant and not can can, deppes with banaly antibiotica,

I can potentially design the new types of antibiotics, instead for to go to get at it in the

nature. For it's that we have done it. Now, we can we make it. When it

comes to biologial and medicine, it's perfect for it. When it it comes to processer

a number data and set in the system, so is a whole overlegant the person, so it's all the,

was it also, was it not also Nobel Prize, were it were it the same, or were A.

or were the A. it was that was the Nobel Prize. It was the alpha fold, which you think about now, where you can see on a gen code, and so see,

in a lot, foreutsi, which protein that comes out of the code. But then other technology also, that can design proteins and,

and, and, the, the wholeerning gene-opskrift from scratch, actually. And I, I think people really, how strong

the way-sillet now are, by that we go from and look at things, for it's so that we actually have done. We let it, for example, out in the natures in plant, and so find we know

that might be like a kind of work like a kind of work. Now can we just design it. It is so strong. It is a genomebrud. And it comes to

revolutionary medicine, material, vitonscap, matproduction, all much, I'll be so gira to talk about these things

there, because, yeah, one thing is, I've, I've coased me and been read for when I've seen on the YouTube films of, you have classifications of civilizations where we are at a very low level

and so can you come up to a whole godom or so, you have control over the whole universe type of civilization, and so I've thought I've thought before, how come we there, and so I know where it's on and so can can you

see it for it for sure it's more better than when when the ball in to rule it can be

our undergang it is there not a problem, if it come to robots and shiter us as in

some in science fiction films so it takes it to over our role

and we be integrated in we be cyborger and so there's there's not

long time for the stringer there and so are it they spat out of it. There are many ways A.E. It can go garrant on, for to say it so.

But what the most are uptated in the discussion is, you know, control over the digital world. All of it's our digital information and how it

is and how it can be able to us. But it's completely under-vordered when when A.E. when A.E. use in on the biologifelte, they who really

for it, control it not just just the digital world. They controler the physical world. And we are physical vests, even if we can smelte

with technology and chips and so, so are we biologous physical vetsen, and they who sit there on the technology that can control it,

coming to have a whole enorm and so it's the backside of the technology which is, that is biological weapons,

so that suddenly will be more for many to make, if they have to have to give

to gunst of intelligence. Yeah, and etiske question here, that's

you know, I think not always from China who know we, what they hold up

to there, or not, or not, not, we know, not at all, we know little,

we know, we know, that it was a Chinese foresker who took crisper and

made some generated barn, without that it was not not really. We

know also that they have research programs that grenser up to

be there are a little to have to have

to just in China here. There are quite many of of these strong-mact that's all the same

way. And often so unnervler you know, you know, they're also USA up in this.

It's more transparent. But for the first, it's more commercial in a deal of these big tech seelscap

are a out of an outstic and who who should start technology outvicking.

And so there is a much that can be in military reski in USA that

can have many upsides, but also can be deeply problematic. And it is, it comes to overflaten,

now can we go little like in Konspiraland, yeah, there's not mean to not, not to not, but I'm not actually thinking that

you were leigh of it, so it was actually with the handsuiting to you. It's not to talk about it, but it has come up in

the day, a lot of other things that are connected to U.S. military worksmet

and a retnings worksmet that's very very, very processer. And one, an example

on that is, And it's a spin-willed history that was omtalled in media for a time to back, where it has been posted in many years that a deal diplomater and other

persons have been out of weapons, which is, like, micro-bulge-vopens as actually grill. It's something that Havana syndrome. We're hell,

I've been a lot of people who have been a lot-vary, cognitive plagues after no one. And so have not been not quite

what it was. And they have been as aftoration theoreticers and imbilled some newly that not

not really, that not that it's not the technology and that we know because a Norsk

fores, who didn't that it was a that was a mule, and did it

on the end up with to get the of it. But also because CIA

and other organizations in the American retentening, have wished about this in several years, and have had,

they have been beslagged a sort of weapon from, from Russialand, it stammar and it's probably,

and have that this is a morely. What is technology in here? This is a little out from my faggelft,

but it is micro-bulger. But, but, but, which you can be a manly

micro-bulger, it's if you send it out in a, so, you send it

a type of skater than a vanly microbulger and it's a sort

miniature weapon. What they have said is that a weapon will not be not quite

so whole really to be so much it's quite sci-fi. But it was full possible

so it was much much. So it can't a little special things and we know also

there have been many some of social socialogical control. It is a

research program that M.K. Ultra that which came to around the

called the world they then tested LSD and a other methods

on the unwitened people. This is very good for that I have left net up a book about this is of

godest that he holer who's that blitz that's, which has had been

about naset in the drug amphetamines there and all to there but he's

also he said about on else that and the whole part

the story around it also is a little tank-vectrine. Tank control,

right-sgett? Both Russia and Russia, it's not, yeah, and there are much that that's the time for it.

That it was a much of much of control, in a deal of methods. But this is now,

today, this is the old old foursning programs that has been in the day

we don't know about, for it is graded, it's not, it's not, it's the in the

all the world, but I will be very overrasked, if it is things that forego there that that's like, that's not

that's not, and what's going to say it so on. And what we have got to just to draw it to the

day's actuality, it's the these Epstein filen. What we have set a deal of in the filen

is that Epstein, self, was very uptatt of of researching and technology

on very many more much much, very up of genetic, and, I mean,

that's that grensers up to transhumanism actually, and have you have played a nair contact

with a deal lot of course, in the sameenegent, and so we not really what it means about the kind of been

being used to but it is things that in the landscape there that's certainly can be quite problematic

and so when we know we we know the story with the organic and

that's of the narcissists it's, it's there are many things can

do you for to misbruke and I think to think to think on what

that's foregore under these grottes on these hemly o'yreye. No. It's, we hold us little to the conspillan, for I've thought on one thing

nert perplexed. You made the book Mysterio Vuhan. It's been both scryed for it, but also much, I've

churte in academical crates. It was no that not that should be rureus, and I had held it out of you

because I thought it was so very much focus on it, and I, I thought, you were

I was a little leigh of it. But the great I'm you concluded well with it that it's

not at not not quite not sure of that it came from flaggemus

on a wotmarket. Yeah, that's the short version of it. It

I think, I'm surred a little up in my when we come, when we

are in on on on the on it's, say that this,

it can got been been just a uh we

know that it was, as you scribes, it was a twere, I can say, more nations that's on the lab, not just

in the States'ra, but also there were in the USA and many others were, so say that it was a

U.L, that it was a lot, but if it had been a biologic weapon, so it's not,

it's not it's not, it's not, it's not, it's, the people, people, the,

but say that the, the, it was, if all, if all, in a a society for long COVID?

So, it's a hellvety. Absolutely, and it's a relevant, hypothetical problemstilling, in all the fall, and in the future. If you want to sveck a people, so can you do something, and that, I mean... It's so, you're so, you know,

delayed, it's so, effect, it's so out, it comes, in a, a lot, so, long after. And then, then you have all ready it's clart to, in, and get in and get to make sure for the next slag, and what we know, is that

blant-an-a-in-a have military-forsnings programs that go on the, we call it, cognitive-crig-faring. And if you could make a virus that's svecker you're cognitive, then,

so is it a cognitive-boologic open. That could it be and that I meaner that COVID, as if it was in laboratory-lac-lac-s, which I mean are very

sandsynly. Not, not sure, but very very sandsynly. I mean it was a unhell, but it outlucker

not that it was said it from the research from the biological weapon, even if it was willet.

And that to forcke on biological weapon can have a different formal. It can also be a

good for an state to for to work to work on what's more of

what fiend din are capable to. Yeah. Again, then, that's trekked

up to be to turnicraft. You know would outvill atombomben also

preventively. So, yeah. That is right. As a Deterrent, or what it's in

course, or what is possible, what you eventually stand for even if you noongue

in that it's going to be used actively. But here this is a groas-o- -o-o-

-o-o-o- -mrod-o- -s, that's that's very much to get over,

but I think we should be in the least not to be in the way, and think that this is

a bityield for the people, and so that you blend in a mix in the mix and you

can begin to design virus that is much more advanced than that nature has clared

to come up with on. For traditional there's biological weapon

worth, you've taken something has done something, mild-brant bacteria

or and so spread it Now can you actually lag virus and bacteria that are more advanced than that nature has come up with.

I think it's first scene in LASO's, it's really creepy for it's like a talk show and so are two forescre who are two forksome.

So it's he, he's on he's for a lot, because it's a soap virus that takes over who gyrno showar that sop

bevisely do you're in nature in other deer. And so just really and really

and so really about what is the most of the firsts the first about the that will

come to intreffes in the world. It's a really eckled scene because

we've got on to have on to up to we've been we've we've slapped relatively

the billy unna but potentially where ill it can be

in a Yeah, so it's actually I've actually seen a pair times it's it's an eclect thing, it's. Yeah, it'sclet. Yeah, it'sckert.

I can't go to back to talk about moresome things, I've got to see, I'm going to see, now we end up on, also, the of so the, of sov,

that the yearns that the yearn for time to quitted some of a deal drit about night and

for restart it's it's like this same as this same as this like this

is a autophagy where the the whole and fiel

everything when we not there are two systems one a system

that process and and a system that a system that

reparerer the this is the question You know, you'd have to help to do

so much. Finds it, I think there can come with a method that we can, that these

processes can chure when we, when you know, a datamaskin says, chur-opdateringer

while program go, like, that you don't know to set the machine

in standby. Yeah, to let the update things while program churerer.

Yeah, it's very to ask you to ask you to ask you to ask you to know what's

about now, I think I. It's a little different in these processes you talk about autophagy

is a process where you break up and build up protein-lager and so but what what you

know when you sover it is much more more, let's say a strong physical process

that right and let's really a shirk yeah that the GERN,

irnebulgene, settes on a vis-frequens. And that starts in shillingen of spinal vests, the vests that fliters from

in, it's shiller, right and slightly through the shagstoffen out, we call it the glumphatiske system.

And it's updaged you just, that it forego, that it actually is a, that it actually is,

that it's so, sametid, so it's interesting, version, and so I'll also bea on the vest in the time. So, I try to concentrate on it. So you see for it, like.

But if you sover for little, so you can't sat the urn in the time where you for the arnevaskin. And then there will be a deal of these slagstaffes lying there. And that I think we are an orcatch to that you

can be, among the an one of the most of the men's, but that you can potentially do. And I am one who has slicked many with sown. I got, I got to I got to

you come on the story of that I see. No, no, I've not yet. I've got no much of the whole

though, but I'm but what you can do is, and this is we've to be

ontly, clinical studies, as we call it, where you have vibererating light and

light on a chit-fretence, next point, my, yeah, that's next point,

yeah, I have been in on this this is a little bit. Yeah, yeah. This is pluck up at the time. 40 hertz.

If you vibrated light and light on the frequency, so settes the iran in the same time, also gyrnevask. And that can

do you do in woken tillstand. So I think, and this testes first and first and now on the people who

have beginning demens for to see if they can forsink to sink in the and reverser it.

And that tides to absolutely on that that is as much as much. As long as they sit over there.

Sitted on 40 hertz. Sitted by 40 hertz or in the studio of here. It's actually really cool to be so there's so a hure telephones with some little

razzed blinks. So they see a little rough out. You have 40 hertz and some light spanding that you say. You can

theoretically do it with just do with just but it's not it looks as you can be better effect

of doing it sametid so there are you've developed on those hodot telephones with bridler that's cobbled

on, that synchroniser this blinking in both the light and the bloodbulgene and the results from

the studies are actually for pluffing good. It bremses to be very, the development

of the compelstap and demens. And I think you if you are one who sober-dolid

that, that the forebeggings effecten that will have and even to do it before you're meant,

also will be a bityelial. And I do do it, so I do hear it on sound like, I'm going to and buy up

my brailler and so. It's not not quite to get to make a but I'm not. I think of a yellow

with all that you just just have to all you need to there, so you sit with so gel where you

get you this this is the behind the 40 hertz and there light you and so sit you

with some strife in and with met formin and now And blue's all, yeah. And baby blood, not

and full-rulled. And rev of they are cobbled on another rev, and it's a whole conge, the dartwader tank. It's a little bit of so a billvask. You just go in and

for a full overhauling, like, because 40-hats is it that that's this with white noise. It's not the same, no. No, no.

I don't know if it is the same. But the 40-Harton called us also bineural beats. I don't know Is it something the same you think about? No, it's something like that. It's more for to sovone in and so.

Yeah, that can have an effect. But I think it is the same, no. No. No, I have got to hear it on some of harts things, but that it must be communicated with light. It would be sure for now, actually. It would at least have a more tydly effect. But I think, I think, I think, also have an effect.

That's why I also gidder to sit and hear on it self. The foreteningen tides on that has an effect. It's really spendant And it's You know, I've got Helest I don't know I don't know

I'm very good Sovvvincoleteen I hear you I hear of People who are I'm trying I've never been in the nairate

of that I feel I'm outwept But you're not You're not? No, I don't know. I'm not for I guess I Yeah, for the

I get so, if you're If you're whole time If you're If you're Yeah. I'm really

I'm really I do it just for to cartlegge things So I've been on some of the calorie mowing before,

just for to get a lot of it's not, I'm not, that's not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

and I'm not, all the time, and I'm gonna risting when things are so I'm so I have, pulse clock, when I'm,

there's no intervals of and till, and it's just just, that I use it to, and so, I don't,

I work't to have it over me, all the time, but we were in-term-health, in a state. I've heard it

over the more years, but it's been a little untyingly, it's come a little in the last

year, where the heart of the care of, not for that you feel it in the

poss and, but that it's a that's that's a whole very important with the

term... and so good, what he is it? Bio-active? No. Bio- man,

it's a good biologous manfall or a good microbiome? Microbiom. So I am full-ty,

I am on fermenter and it is kefir right in the gap it's not, it's not, it's not

it's the diggest it, but you are at it. It's lurt. And there are no,

there's a rour-is, but it's, sur-de-sprue on moran, or put in the morning, and I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, can't, you know, effect? It's, bar placebo?

Vanceble, for I've have done more things like it is not the important to

get the way to sit the finger on the right of the right, but I just try to

do some things that should have good effect that, so I feel me better than now

than I did for some years since, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. It's not

to be to lure on the It's really to be time. It's really with

tarmflora and how it work on health our. The

kundscapable to be much better now, as you say, and you know that

the trans the people, we're in the nervous system it.

There go many signalstoffer from that that can't that

so, and it is very really, we talked about this

about this we we know that we do, to be a fackal person

to a person, it has also been for a different with a

very fluffing effect. It's very to take from first example on first example on time if you have

if you have chronis or Ibs or something so can you are a good effect of to

put out tarmflow to one that's really, it is a no brainer really.

You can have you have done me and mass new newt in or hold them a

little and it can't quite how a lot volume. You're going to

you're going to it's a through a rower, so you know, it's a up in the term, and so

bitted it out. So I think it's not not to talk about a lot, but you should have

enough to, to befolke the arm. But it's also a deal that's also a other

other people who not really have so much with termen to do, for example autism,

and set that it has a positive effect on the symptoms. And that It's just not up

that it is a quite a tight same thing between termhels and other type of functions

and health and health set so that to pass on the term bacterer are very lured and it

give them that they like and so and autism yeah autism yeah but what's what's

that? And what's depression and what you see also people who are people who have talked many

the slumber bacteria but you take you often a lot of the good also. It's a much higher-forkman

of depression, sairly and angst after you have had taken many antibiotics. And that we also hanged together with tarmflower.

Yeah, yeah. So, that mental health hanged with a sun tarmflora, that is there very much that tithe to

not. So, yeah, it's also for the antibiotica resistance, but also then also, then even healtha, and to spice the meat that the good bacteria

like, it's a lot of, when I've been a vokent, that antibiotics is not problematic to take. So it has not been many years, but they were younger.

I feel I took antibiotics all the time. Yeah, I think it was vanlier before, and you were more uncritic. It's not good for for the upvictly?

No, not, it's not. It's not not, Because antibiotics are actually some of the importantest we have

in, I hope you see, a predescap's lagre of our. So if it comes an orderly bacteria outbrud, and you have an hissie infection

that's not, so you have antibiotics. And for example, Kreft patients, very many of them, many of them,

have antibiotics with the kind of can't be chemposyke. So, that we have worksome with antibiotics,

are kempivocit. And if we then, uncritics, use, then, so will it missed the effect

because that the bacteria will be resistant. This is a discussion the most have fought with us. Yeah.

And then problemsting in there, but he'llily we have a new superwopen in the camp against resistance.

It's a. I, who can have been new new variants. And a virus, actually, it's to

use these viruses that can smitten bacteria as a so, that's also a possibility. But,

yeah, no, so good tarmealse is important, and you will, you,

to put all I don't really, with antibiotics there, so I'll try not do for much of it. But in addition to that, with fermenter mat, so kimchi and so, I'm also... I'm not so glad in it.

No. But what other are it that's important to be able to say, for good health? Yeah, no, it's... Not yet that's... Not yet it's... I'm not... I play, not really to give so very much

cost-holds, rod, but it's, you're, like, to spice, varieter, offer, what we call it, both prebiotica and probioticca, which are both

mat to bacteria and put full of of friske bacteria if you need it, I have actually a lot more here, but

we come, you're going to get in on that. Maybe we come in on a other one again. Yeah, absolutely.

It was a really interesting to have it on besue. Very good. I'm very good. I'm, is there

no, are you will leg to? Are there no, are you are you are actual,

me now. Acred now? Not no book or like right now. It can no end it. It's not the but it's

really this with the science and biotectology then. The combination there, where it will

to see on a witty much from over and it's just to follow me. I'm going to come out with stuff

on that when it when it can't I hope you know that people sit in

not just just about domedg's but also little optimism for that it goes on

to get much more more and see I'm so relatively optimistic on the front of the time. I feel like I feel that I'm quite technology optimist, yeah, also.

So it's not, it's all the time, that it's not, you can't have to fall henry, just. No, it's it. So, that we're job for, that are the right people that are the technology. That's correct, yeah. And so are you inom

on Mabels Torn in the United? Yeah. And, you know, you know what? This is a lot. I'm glad. them at the same time there.

I should wish we could have been drawn to all the I have in the list of but we don't know

more than I'm first time. Thank to you guys to sit there and listen with these javla

your year of a week to put it set us on, it's slips enough, it spills in,

I'm I'm sure on this will be very for you, but this next week again.

Yeah. This has anything, it comes when it comes. It comes in. Have it, good.

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