Fladseth - #292 - Torstein Bae

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

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Oh, great, so here. We must just set up a rec here, for Torstein is so enormity. He's scribed new book here now. And you, yeah, I'm spent. I have not heard of this book here. No.

I had, you know, bookbada of you. For, it felt like a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. It's not more, neither, and it was the first book of their, the story book of the, the story,

and now are you, are, sitting up in the scriptorn and hamre near word. And there's new book. And there's new book. on the game now. Yeah, that is, and I'm very much, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to. Silly Björke, who also is landlags, spieler in Shack, and we are,

you Shack Parr, yeah, Shack family, also. But what we now have given us in in, it is Shack-OpNor. Now, shall you have to answer, Henrik, and all shacks-spillers in the Ganske-Land. What are it that is, method from start, so you for overtake, take rotted on the Mott-A-P-Stand-ar, and, and, thereme, take your chack to next-nivore. It is just that

the book I need. I must say the first was very good also. It was a little opening there also but it was the story

shackebook took for all aspects over shacken and a little stories, a little about your life

and in a meeting with chacken and so I slit with openings I've tried to learn

with openings I'm here I thought all in Norway who knew who knew who was

who were Tom Tim was yeah he was he didn't he can you have never

ever played shakt and Jim Yeah, it's a whole It's right It's really It's really fair

Are you for good in shakt to wait about them at the store there? You're for go in shakt

to be in Witten Furny you should ask I'm yeah, I'm did it

Osholossock club or Orchalck Shack-sherstack Yeah Yeah, yeah I'm not really

to be it I'm not there in I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, sat on bus

and turnete, and part, and mother and papa have a so many scape with some medals and prokalo. When it was this,

Jim? Maybe like 90, yeah, 903, 5, 95, around there. It was on my

time, my time, and Toska's time. He was also for shack-setskap, you know, that was it?

Yeah, so it are, for sure, so you and I, and I, know, we were on, we were there

same with, we were there same, were you, were the chacklub with professor? I was

I call it, I don't, I don't, I don't, He has a little call-n-a-name, because he's so smart. Mester in the air. Professor, I like it. I like a, I like a shu-radnavon.

Have you snucked with Professor? Yeah, that I was one of my favorites on all of our years with shack on TV. It was when you were guest, Henrik, and then, Buddar. So, you had, in shack club, as you also, most of course,

it was, most of course, the Oslo Shack Elite. And Buddderen, he was. What I thought? I remember there, I remember the I'm going to

it's not, it was in it's true, it was, it was, we had to Oslo Shacklete,

it was our old chack club, there, as a lot ironically, we called it

the Oslo Shack little, we were relatively amateurs, but we were we were we,

it was we're in and it was the lot, it was much, it was longbour with shackbred

brought over, and drit steming. So was it well, one, so it was a,

so it was Sucke, Enna Guta, so then come you in from sideline, a friend of one of Guta, lyonscarb shacksp player, that we didn't know not we, but he came in and he did a reimbabour.

He was he was, with brickmone there, and he fiddled so heathled so on, haltsugging, and so think I also at every time I hear

this, for that you always always hear on monumental music of Hans Simmer. And then I think I'd hear them that cornfield chains and what they're he he's like, oh, yeah, Oslo Shack elite. It was already that time, so had we, epic film music, so it was much Hamseimmer,

but also Rigness Herre and Howard Shore and these things. But it's an unruly steming when you sit in a very longest party, and so have you, really meck to film music. Now we have, not even Oslo Shack elite anymore, Now we're in Oslo Dart elite. Oh, yeah. It's so fete. Yeah, it was for, we've motted in a little more folkly sport.

And dart is, of whole, but there it's the same. With film music, when you really draw so to in a, in a spendent, a semifinal, or a finale, an orderly film music, then, then, you're on press. I've heard too much in film music, when I've played Axis and Allies.

Have you played it? Yeah, for longer, longer, say, are you doing it? Is it a little, is a risk? A risk variant. It's a very more hissy risk. It's a other-wenskig,

the axi-macted to all the hereto. And so, you're farske, to build tanks, bomb-fly, yager, battleships,

all that are there, and so, you're not, hearts of iron, it's a P.S. And it's a little more,

it's even more advanced, for I think, fiff, it's advanced, then you're going to be up a whole

Kriksnarsion. And you can choose, if you're, if you're whether you're very Haiti, or,

Or, then it's like it Dahlia. But it's a It's a lot of. You can, for example, it's athewopia. For there, there's still,

Italian's tropper along the border for invader it. And so, I've never clared to that

there, but it's a volsom, volsome logistic, so you're to have been up a

Greek's economy and there's not a way on, how many things. Proved to be of

Haiti? No, I have, I have, I saw most gameplay so I've tried to shunner the play,

for I've actually gave it up, I've tried to sell. I think I've played it at least, circa 1995. Access and Allies.

And you liked it? Yeah, I'm more I liked it then, there was, like, the cellar, the cellar in an comis,

a comis, some, there had we some other different, also risk and also, also, like,

and also, also, also a risk, that, what he's, the, dungeon, yeah,

yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, so the, so I, One, the hudden, after the spielessation.

Yeah. It is short, and there are it much chack. It was the first I had, actually, it had brolemen, spinstores-brough, on PC, I'm not. I'm not going to, I'm not sure. One of the firsts there, and it has been pretty good,

it's a simple, it's a, but it's a single-spill, but it's, it's a good thing, now, but it's a sort, you see it over from, turn-base, that you do, you do, and then,

you come on new tour, so you take there a good time, and you buy a good time, and you build a civilization, from the bun, start with a settler, for a biger a city where you will have it, and so have a little gang with clubbemens, and so it's like a toileter,

and maybe it's a little bit of a spider gang, you're out to check the and the omniscient. And so it's to a modern civilization to the end oflucker? Yeah. Is spill now been for for the feeling I, that I had

a, and I had a lot of school that was really much as youngdom. It was called Railroad Tycoon. Yeah, I had. Yeah, and it was quite worth of all right. But then I was

back to get in contact with Civilization who now, certainly, are, then, uh, unendly, many versions later. It's so sickly, influck, like, so. Really, very,

it's very, very, that's, that's for, it's very much, spill it, as you can play shack, as a whole idiot. But, oh, yeah,

it's artier, because you're bricked. Yeah, but you don't know to get the reglet and what it can do, and it's,

that I feel like maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, of the magician with shackar, that it is so utterly

can't, you have just 16 bribck every, and to them with the same seisen, and so are an little

open slagmark in between 32 felders, right? And it's let to get this there, and there's

no more regler that put put up, oh yeah, can you could be that the

and styrker costed so much and what it should be able. No. And that I think

I'm, and that you're still out of it actually after after 1500 over, whether this

is, it's that is the chagg. And chack will be complocert. It's complicated, but it is actually not worse than that you learn the groundregulne. And so, will you straffed, clallart for to do, in a way, some fundamental fail.

And so, learn to not do that next time. So, so onsenet, it's very easy. But the ant-farliarekvariants are, you're so insin-scient. I'll take it one time. A-I. Have it now learnt-sher-biffen? Is it fair-died,

have it got gone through the whole thing? Or how much are it again that they can

learn to? No, yeah, there's unedely much again so on set,

and it's under the I'm in the all of I'm in past, I'm in my new book

about the opening up the opening and how many are, and then I mean I, I

come to that after five treck from where so is it 60, and it's

just two three trck from where so there is 62 billion more Partiers. And a billion,

it is, then, a million, millions. Yeah, because you're, you're talking to, not to come to, not really,

but I don't know. It's just, if you're not, if you take, if you take from, then you can you just be higher than that again.

But after five, after four from there, then I think I, that it's 85 million, and so after, after,

after, after, after, then, then we're up in 62 billioners, and so to so to sit, then, then,

so say they, it ender with more more than it is than it are atomers in the universe. So it's fascinating, so it's possible. So it's possible, if you're on trek number 14,

so is there just a little, a little, little, a rare variant that's not fatal, also, that can be a fatal also, that you can be an offer,

that you offer, but it's something that's a manned out, because it's a classic so A-I-grege, that you can't think, that you calculate,

whole insin-syn-syct, for to understand that it gives a fordel long out in the I'm not not quite I'm on the same thing I'm not

I'm not but it's there alpha zero program that now come for a year year which was

developed by a ven from now later won Nobel Prius in Chemy and

is a one of the clodens people who's smartest Menskis but and it

was on it was on a higher than it had had first and it was a very fantastic

history because it was a cell- an algorithm that just just picked uplis the reglety it's still

and generated theremere there in the lot of times enormous data mingder and so it was to

let us out from these all these what muncher which are the effective and found

out for example that it is even better than more than had thought to a hbony can'tbony

for to come from over could be on out of statistics over what that is smart

for a up to success. I've seen, on the bottom one from to have seen, as a storm

little up on the flank. Because it gives an fordel whole motel when it's a lot of, it'll be...

Yeah, and it is perhaps that it's still, it's a way more men for the

more than more, as the machine is done it for the most I go there, so slor then and

then and so, it'll be very very short-sictive in a much, even it can be 20-30

trek from but, where then can't be to think as a manned more

because you rather use a sort of a sort of maybe,

where you say you think in that, I see it out from data in the

thing, that if I have a bond in a long-farm position, then it

very often I'm not that anyone who can find that that you can be a

that you, just see it is an monster up at there, so wined you you stott.

Yeah. But it I've well I've listened that it, You know, it's been to get a.I. So, it's been thinking, it was,

it was an example for, that you saw for, some stupeaker, a sort of wasked-da-med robot. There are many who dreamt of. It's a much more vansklier. It's a lot of, go and hent it to larkers,

and glass, and set in and upbats machine and take in and out than to get a shack computer, that, like, if, they who use, if, they're using, that, here, we're, we're, we're,

we're a self-lared machine, who can spill more than a million times in the day for just long out of all,

but also can listen quite easily all parties that's played and that is digital lagrett,

and that can't be a spin-vill that, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

and it's so, it's actually to talk, muntler, and it's, yeah, we're, we're all

all together, maybe, maybe, maybe, for to take, take, good of the

whole how it's constellation are brick new, and so agger we out from it.

But you who have studied many opnings now in the last reigning how many new A.

I have come in the last years of the last year of the know, in the kent openings.

Yeah, and it is always been done been done certainly since four hundred

tally, have it has been fursked continually on what the best methoding

in the so now it in what which degree is kind of

kind of kind of not said, for now is probably the program the most of the

first know, I'm it's called for stockfish turf fish,

which is a deavis a nonst-construed program, but where you know, but we

do that program for to try to go in in the situation, yeah,

okay, what what's say the machine here, can it be a new way

that is not used for, and so top-n- -of- not, because

you can try to try and so overrasked the other than it's a lot of plutslily when you sit there

those two Magnus Carlson on one or another so you can fire of this new genial trek that you have

funded with this superprogramm and then it's a game over for the other. But it's a bit chedley

with it as much, maybe maybe that it will be a little of a huskeleak on one

when you when you can remember memorary all these things but it has it has

been it has been all it's all it's all it's that with

computers and and the art, so, so it volume that's so enormously,

so enormed, not, so enormed, and that's if you could try to come a little neside,

contra, so it was on it was, it was that we played, it was, that was,

that had that maybe of the the magician in this, because you have, for the

most of the said, this is a genial offer. And so would I say,

but, no, it's just there, if it's, if it, then, if it,

if you, so tap you? No, I win it. I'm going to debate on on a way, to go in many years, maybe 10 years about it was it

little, dumb, what are it, but now you're on a button, and then you on the computer

on, and so you have you the facet more or the more or I've, I've found

I'm a little that gamel where it could be like, rune between messer and

what was that was really all type sport and that, that it has missed

my charm, it's very analytic, so football my my, support team. I'm

far ma' I've roted off to Riham Riham Rican. Oh yeah.

So, Carlson. Frank, Frankos' scammle lekegrin. Enough of that.

Critic to be very from flat set. It's maybe glazer

family not not much better. But I must chat chip in

the best o't the if you're white so then you now

E4. Yeah. Or Bester B. B. B. The

B. The B. B. The. The. In my book, I then scribes with my book,

there's a Cere we to use E4, that's the called for Kongebolden. It's the bono from the king,

two from. And so go we then to nearer, what can you do it, for to get over, and so, we also,

if when when I'm going to a smart, what if Wittbeauten with the Boneybunner, how would you

mout? And what would you start with the other trekked and what, what do we

then we, we, we, we, we, instead for just, that there will be

a lot of trek-treck and so on try to try to what are ideas, what are the

plan? How can you can you can you know this so that it's not just be like

to memorize but you also also you know I'm going to I'm always

I always slitting me not, I'm not not even think for long from

because then there come always there come always a there's you can let you

know, but now should you know what there here. Now I have not

I'm not pealing to the biggest, or the the most of the sturdily, that people have about shackspillers are that they think, they think,

like, 20, 30, trekked from, but, but thwarty-mose, it is actually that it's really very important, to be flexible, right.

Because there are so many times, so you know, okay, I'll better, position my bit, bit, little, I have a plan,

but I'm open for an way way in, all, all, all over-a- of what I'm over-stern-ur- and for so,

and for show-ut, what I'm, I'm, you can't, that you come on, oh, yeah, I can you

do another even lure. So of the reason, the flexibility, and to be the flexibility,

like that's master's chenetegne. Maybe, in a sted at you know, you know what you

go for, what you want to be able to be flexible out of the, if you want to, if you

want to, if you're, to, in a, kind of, and have, in a gregep to,

dronning, floyin, But if no whippered up in the pinn, so must you still hold you to that's set from start now. But I am glad in grob, soopening, you know, I'm, you know, for a party. And now I've been, I've been a vanned to

and play a party with you. I've been playing part against you. I've played with Atle Grun. It's just like, just, just, just, I'm gonna'-upers-up to a party, I'm... I'm, like, glimrening,

I'm, like, long-under, like. But I had, he He wrote in book of his, that he started a one one day you had in the younger days where you had, where you might as

a whippe, a little of pinn. So, started with an antat-svac opening, that's wopening. But all the doorkest you, actually.

Aller-dor-dolkest, and then, for to, like, a, like, a, like, bro in to sammattel, so started you with grobs-op-op-op-op-op-op-op-op-ed.

I had, you, and I studied it little bit. I did it, I fann, I had a halgert, yeah, you spilt, and so evened spill, and so, on a time time, so collapsed you a little bit, but, but it was very good, I was imponered,

I, Henrik, and I thought, to them budd there, I would have a little outfugned there. Yeah, that was fit. And what are, Grobs, are it, which... It is, so, next... I'll say, G-bonn, two frem?

Yeah. And it is, you... you blocker a lupor, and there's a little rarre thing. Yeah, that's been very

very upset for an agrep, me one time. It goes for tapped with a one one of the one man flitted,

actually, so it's really very, but there's a offer, and you really, you really, yeah,

it can be that it also. But it's that's the time in the game, so it was that the

game, and then I had I certainly had I'm sure I'd certainly, I was probably, some you were

in, because it came other things in the life, and I had , But, so, but then

I went I, with the unruly low poutning, I went I to one who got to be a very good, and I was 15

years. And that was that was, that I was, I was, I was a number two in the that I'm

that I had ever had had been, it was, fie-fat, this is a much-o- it's a lot,

it's a really, it's a lot, it all I think, it all of all I think, it's all I'm,

and then I, then I, come over the Kneika and, and, hanged with a part three

year to then it's there was a whole other there was a festival and more and tour and races

and many things and so that was a whole way so it was quite that it's that there is

so if you've seen Queen's Gambit there is a queen's gambit scene not just you're

you slor him with the the worst that is so it's so it's so that it's so that's so that's

that's just it's just it's just it's really it's When we are in on the Ayer and show here,

there are many who say that men's people will not see robots driving with sport and idret and it's

a vis-grad right. You will up a lot of a lot, maybe a, and they will

use a and so, but they will see men's and feelings for them right,

I, I, to the person, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I say I'm

see I, and so I can't be back, begde, yeah, Brandfackle. New brandfack.

Yeah, but I would say, yeah, and I think I come, and that I think I'll listen I, in the new book to, I'm doing,

I'm going to go to be in, I've talked about long as this there in a few weeks in podcast, but the

last book to him who said it, Harari, or something, Noel, Hara, Yuvel,

Noel, what he's called Anuval, Nuel, Yuval, Harari. Yeah, a long time.

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, a lot menskly information

monsre we've had up-gienom that. Much so inter what I said that.

He's the same of it. He's he'll all the he's called. He's he's written

on the book of so I got to grubbler on there and it come you

now have you you have you have you you have you have you have you of people?

Have you Yeah, yeah, enhanced games, yeah, there's Trump Jr.'s op-preg. But they slough only one world's record. It was that was the world.

Yeah. And it was really really better. But what slough they? Yves. That I didn't me. No.

No, what were that? There are you, this is a function to Imer. Yeah, and that took it off so much as,

and that's, but after we, after we're little leighed, because we understand it on the

more, now he can come with the that, so vanvitte, controversial, that all that all

should be to the end up we're like more, just we're like that. Just do you just do it, just you're not,

I'm going to not, let you hold up like, yeah, I'd have one of it but I don't know we,

because, if we, if we're, a VM with robots then, there are engineers that come with

their own their robot, they're different different different different types of sports,

and so they, to test out their, boxing, for example, boxing, so come

they with their skin and they have been a villain of the robot they drive

to take salter and look from on the wall of the and take backflips and so so on the turn

to it think it in in octagon with every same robot so that should have

hammer to the one robot is there and ricker and it's a little

star wars upling so so that I think in in same with

chacken so it in the so it's if if

if if deep deep what are you, Deep Mind, Google to, then, Anthropics, met us with their, in a lot. And for to do it

more spendent, so have A-I have, in a robot crop also. So they come and set it with brettes. And so,

they have A. in the house but they flutte with robot armending, the bricked. I'm not,

not it's a little good, yeah? It's not good. It's been so, it's first so in shacken,

you know? Because, it's, and I'm actually in a unieted on that if it is, so-as-sih, perfect spill from both, so it's anere-me-remy, unav-girt.

And it can be that is a bit of an effort. So then you can't, if both play perfect, not, or so-so-s-s-y, because even if the one is on, maybe, bit, bit, bit, a little higher-niv-nive-nibor-combe-ed-thrope-em-tropic,

so it'll be a fort-remi. So, then we're... So, then we're... So, then, we're... They are programmed-t... It's... Stregn't for but Murmiremi.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if they have a for aught, they'll be not to be used to

and dying. So they must be leased of and die again, they must they have got consequences to die. Spend. So then be like

a chicken game on a at a titusport. Yeah. On a titusk on someone just go all out.

No, it can not be rem but are it can not be you who are you who can't

you to castes to on spide, or is it I? Net up. Grusop. Spendent.

So, when in these robot hughner, so it goes a hellfet scote rugh in that they begin and lookter it more,

it's not. You hope the another should do some do it so it's that's really really nerve-upyriene who who

who terned and who terns who terns. Yeah, to that there? I mean, to let it on...

Fahd. Yeah, so think it, now are you, you have, you have, Paralympics so are

these these, that's a lot with robot bein are very rasker than the men'sbein now are they,

I think it are not that for 100 meters or are longer loup? No, that I think not 100 meters

at least at least at 200 and 4. I felt I was a friscus theory for coming there. Come on

but first enhanced games so are they swimming the sturs the sturs have come out oh

so for example in 100 meters so it was not in the naredet of bolt. So the bestest, the clocked in there, it was Fred Curley on 9.97,

while Bolt's in record is on 9.58. And so is, then a swimmer, I think he clotted to slice back 20 seconds on existing

record, yeah. Phelps? No, that's, Philp. Michael Phelps, that's a stunce,

yeah. He's, he's, he's, He's a really really many gull. I don't know many of it is

in a whole in all-ydretter I think he's and overst in Olympus to gull yeah yeah. Yeah, he's not

he's number two or so I'm but he's he's not a whole whole volosombed I'm really actually quite

that it's swimming for there's very very important to be very very much and so and it's good

it's with a enhanced enhancements yeah you you may have a oneest

the most the most the only the endest the first again it's it's been it's been Yeah, we're long-distance

Loping. It's a fact that Chatship team, that if you have carbon ben, you can't be able to, you can't be able to get it. It's hard. It's not, you're able to be able to get it. I'm sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not. I'm not sure. I'm not a 30-year-sign, so it was a stormester who meant it that it

came to come to come in some there implants, yeah, it's not, that's joxed by

to have truolose vibrating an alk-cule that's that by help of signals,

now you must you flitted the torne, then he got he got a little

up-muntering can we necessarily so if he got it so doubled it so doubleed up

so so that was it was with yokes all-s chakened old-gmell history

with yokes so Niman sat there there there often so with you can you have a signal

on that you end up, if you're not, if you're not, if you're not, if you don't know, so we don't know, so, when Niemann

really sent it on goodfellings in the body, when it was it also that he stood good. Yeah, I'm not,

you, not, I'm not, and it's all the type of information, and it's not so much better than the men's so if you

just you just to be able, for example, that now have you overtake, then you can you often talk

you're from what that's the right trick, or you can have some of the vibration that that's going to know, now you move to the

turn, or a bonn, or what you can't do you get it's a very more more complexer? Yeah, but it's not quite quite it's so very,

if you're just, it's just like, it's just you have two stout for dronning and four for a bonner, or yeah, so on.

But if you , how you know, how you know, which you'll know, then you can't out of it self,

and it's that's clart, if you're if you're gonna and give some coordinates and so on, the bond to E.F.M. and so,

but just, just, just, just for, for a full of, for a further. Yeah, Magnus,

we, that if he had, like, one-gant, a party, had, what's, what's,

what is, what is, what is, what is, the, the, machine, you are,

a half bond, overtaker, he, he would he be a whole , he, he could he,

both, both, sort, out, out, out, out, from the,

what, and the right method and all right. Yeah, not. But what think we, yeah? I saw the documentary on Netflix. He's a whole spin-willed. He's a new, nine-man. Yeah.

He's not quite a lot. He's not quite an extravagant. It's very clear that he loves upmerxomate. He has, he's, on, he's a man who has, a norm of missions around his own person, and he's going to be strong,

and he has been taken to jocse. Yeah, on net. So that he is capable to it, we know. Yeah, but at the same time it were the festive, that with an alkyl,

was it just not even though, on the Reddit or at some other some of it, that's about it was that with analkuller, and then it was, I think all it was so really more,

and the theory with an alkylure, so it gave to his sewerskang over the whole world. Was it there it come from? Yeah, yeah. It was a time

was a, yeah, was if he used, He used a banalculer, I was, too, I'm imitated on dachshundit, on NRK,

for to, and so, I'm, I'm, I'm, what can have said, in this thing?

And so I'm a little, I'm a lot of, yeah, there's many ways to to yokes, it's all the

get to to get, and so, yeah, but how can that have said, then I'm

out of a sudden, so I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'd be done I'd be able to give up that I'd

in studio, then it was to rule out from there, I know. But one other thing that comes from there is, it was,

it was, I know, where mecky this is chest.com was. It worked you like a little monopold

on online gaming and they sat with many pover. Absolutely, for it's that is an,

an, an, an, unproly of shack, now, that it is, shest.

com, have, well, 300 million people, and so. They say, just,

just, they say, all the, half-a- million people, so it is very

It's not really for 20 years since we were we're fornought by if we got 100 new meddeme on a year but now are 1,5 million Norske.

And they are an million business in dollar and shacken had never had no so on

it's been a play often with some rick sponsors and I think it's more to be

to bidra stutter here and there and so many different matches and and where

there plussly have bit big business and where Shest.com is really locomotives that's really locomotives

that are muskler in this this is for a very very long they're for volsom you can play shack online, there's a lot, and so you can't play in many, and so you're

still, they've also up, the Play, Magnus, you know it? Yeah, they have, as, as, as, as, as, as, as the most of the more so many, the more more than the

stuff they're in the story always driven. So there was a new, so there was some Magnus, so started on some of,

which had base in the Tuscland. And I kept it after a matter, and then I'm just, it was just, I've been,

all the whole dritten, for that's not, I thought it was very interested, but they had not really to have a mugg

and plagged summed up in there. So there's Chess. And so there is one other that Lichess,

which is a stiftelse, but also have, but who, not they have, in the same commercial ambitions, but also are a

lot of people who are a whole gratis upleg, how can you write? Yeah, L-I, I don't know,

out of L-I-CHS.org. When we're talking about jocks, there are, there are, and have been taken to yux-up one of,

so, like, in a telephone in, so, like, so, so,

so, so, so, that he does, with, vaw- in the sisterna on the dassen in like a plastic bosa

for to be able to get them to get information. And I'm on both do, I. And then, then is a variant. But the first registered in Juxinga, can we not talk about it? I can't talk about it. Yeah, I'm not quite the Vikingin' and Enric, if you can't have

talk about the first. That's start we're with. Yeah, it's fantastic. It's in Norris' kongasaga, so he has, he has a story that over 10-26. It's actually, actually, just a thousand

years since in the year, where Kong Knut and Ulf Jarl spilling in

Shack on Shott in Rostkilde and so he's a stobbe We're talking about

about the Connut Store? Yeah, that you better than me I'm Connut,

yeah. Sund of son of two-sugged Yes. He had two-sheg He was

like, long-s- -s-gne- -d-w-cha- -kka-n, 20-sheg, yeah, and so again was son of was the son of blotan

then, so on the graysome. Danss, king, yeah. Yeah, that's... Knutton Store, reared, he took, England, and reared both Scandinavia and England, and was a whole wildbass,

yeah, he was a wildbass, and that's maybe this is the end of this story illustriere, for what's said in the party in the was that Conut did a strong tabbe,

so he missed a hest, in party. And then the Jarlen took heston. It licked not the king,

so then said the king, you can't do you do you make to do you go out my bricke?

Then I certainly Jarlen very sure, he thinks that he was a yux of the king that he

didn't know to slough and be to be able to the tabben to King Knut. So Jarlen

got from the place from the room where they spilted but but the back up

the king on to rope after him. Yes, you now, your reddhaer?

And then, and then, little dumb, as you've seen aftertere, for he was also hissed, he said he,

he called me not a reddharr that I readd there, then you've been banked as hundreds of the swenksksks.

Owee! And so he and so, so he saw the king on this, and so, he stood up next day,

King Knut, so he said he to his live-vakt, Ivar, go, you, Ivar, and Drep, Ulf, Jarl.

And so He does Ivar He goes in the church in the church in Roskilde and hugger the Jarlene in Yale with his sword so that he blurt

to death there on the churchgulve in Roskilde. Yeah, right? Grusant. Yeah, but I would think

that they, but it has come out, it's, that he missed that, that the king missed his

and not bleam on that trek. Yeah. I don't I don't know, so Juxes' spill was not very rott on the time,

I would not think that's, so it was well there's that the king can't well to tell and tap a hest, maybe to toll and tap

a chack party. But that talled he, he wasn't, so he was an handsunsuenseless type, but so,

so, so I'm, you know, Jux, outvicted so, yeah, overhunders

and, and, and, a fast-litter of the pod, Knut, he, Knut,

he, he, and he had, and with on the note there, and he gave me a long

a foreloper to shacken, a viking shack that was a nearer middle-alder, but what's he'd it,

hafnattir, or aftal? Yeah, what are that? Yeah, it's, there's, there's no

Viking, wikings, it's, it's just, that shack came to Norger, around the

thousand, so it was some, they were, they were, they were, a little before,

it was probably and I've got seen, I've been with and spent a showtled in a showtick to

it's like in Nefna taffel or it was in the country but I have not

not not got to do it self. I've got done it but it can be

the next shack the machine yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

yeah we're a little more modern time then we come

to 1769 to Ottoman Rike Notto Doth what

what what he They're going to be in Usteryke, Ungarn. And it is, an illusionist who comes to Hoff to Kayserina Maria Teresa and give from

something Kayserina will be very imponert over. But at Hoffe, so is it an bureaucrat, an Ungarsk bureaucrat who's called Wolfgang von Kempel. And he's overholy not imponored of this,

he thinks, thwart, the other than I could I have done much better. So, one year And then, we presenter he then

trillekun's his upfinnel for Kaiserina, which will an, actually a global sensation,

shack machine, the mechanical turker, where it then is a robot who then have hands

up on a commode and so that, who can and then play shack, and winne

to many really good shackspillers and that turner thereafter from

1770 and 80 years in Europe, North America tournered it on on the and mass

different and there people with that we allered that we allred that in the

uplisningstid this have actually clart to construct to construct a machine that can

spilling and this was a time there people eliced so if you

have set the prestige with illusionists and so, like, I see for me, with this machine that's playing.

Yeah, yeah, not up on. But it was yokes. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

and so, it was, that it was, but he was a very snedia had to construct to construct

to construct, was you, that in the commode that, so, the robot had his

armor up on, in there, sat, you're a little chackmester. Yeah, a bit little

shackmester, but, that, by help of different spakers and some magnetic condosions, could be able to get this robot up to let me

to put it to put it. And, and same-tid, also so that if someone opened up this commode, for to see if

it were it. So, you could be to have in different positions, so that you never was

signly, you've seenly, you've seen, you're very smart think out. This saw you also with these,

so, sort, in the kist, truletrix, that you had some, some, like,

some way to, you know, some way to shulse in the blotts. So this, it was,

it was, so it's not, so it's got a little sort of, a tracic, comiske, mott,

namely, that under an upvising in the U.S. so it was a truce-and- roped,

it, it's, and then, he had you not shack-mester no, he had you got to come

out, he had, and there, the, he was, the hemlih out, think there,

the, that, that I'm in a I'm nother blink in the end up. I've just thought of it long. I've been thinking about it long. If you're, There are many films with elements of shacques up-gienom. What are favourites of theirs? Yeah, what are the favourites?

Yeah, the most best-be-be-mer-send, the shunned insegle, the seventh seigne, where ridderen spieler shak-mott-dud. And to hold out for to un-slipper theoddun-svary. So, I know.

But it is, as you say, There are many films that have it but there are, but there are, it's not, Fischer, for example, to be able to be Mr. Spaske,

it's a, a general, it's a point, sacrifice, for example. I had thought that we could talk to it, for it's a most

with, with the time, with, if we think in context and, in the whole greya, so is the Spaski Fisher

is one of the most fortalted history in the shack. Can't you draw, I, can't you draw a little

through that history that. Yeah, it's a, because backtepe is that Soviet Union that satsed so enormed on and were the first

after the war to set the shack in system, because you had an tank on that you could get on shacks

to be on the world, and therem also actually communism's intellectual over-legnate contra-capitalism

and the west, not? Same time as also, with help of Bolshoi, Balletton, should you see,

system's esthetistice and overlegn't so, so therefore so had you Soviet Union had you

an enormous milieu with extremely many stormester and dominates so that that I

began to play it was so that was one of the first in world that it's

from the Soviet Union so it was not not the other had any others

had chance for they studied together and and developed a new

research and so And so come it, then a good. I can name it's that, I'm going to know, so, like, no small fish when it came to,

in a point, cultural, I mean, I think they were, so was a, so was a cultural meckah under the sort of

that greener. So, that was very in, in, yeah, it was built in in the culture.

Yeah, and why shacken was the story there, that, that, I didn't,

but, but, but, but, then, um, , But so come it, then

one gutta from Brooklyn, so to say, on a way, out of anything, not, which on one way,

he could have chance, because, even he had he had, no, no, to learn this

of, and study with, and forstow to play. But so he could well, Bobby Fisher, to take up

the camp and, to end, and to be this very very very much, what's such, every type

was Bobby Fisher, for he was an enormous, Yeah, after Sairly, was he An enormous exentristic, and I know

as a bit, as he's he's not, but he got, he got to after a enormous self-tilit.

U-Orthodox. U-Orthodox, and so much nedsetting on other spillers, and was glad of to

talk up his own over-egenhead and how he would cluse the other players and their egos

and reger. And so there were more more other that he tracked

he from from world because he meant he had been being he

was put for, the one of he meant he had used against him all soviet people,

a other again had he been a sort of a type Christian sect that made that there was

many things around that he didn't be able on and so and meant it

very often don't don't often probably probably they're to retellell he was to retellellell

of him so the So it was all the time that he had been from the chacken, came back, all reigned him as a genie, but, on the way, a genie that was unmolly

to have no more with to do. And then, and then he was back again, and so started, of this, this truble ferns his, not this vernscap,

where he, on a way, that he, he, can, he winner over 20 parties on, he, he's best in the world,

he doesn't, he, he unsliper, not there's not no one of it even. He banked Ben-Larsen, danskens' best player no one again, 6-0, so winner he was 6-0

to Tynov, as one of the best sovietspillern. So, he fey, petros, he banked all totally. And this is so, W.E.M. in Langecach, as you had,

Carlson, Anan, and what he, he's been for, yeah. Yeah, and that's, so, sell, Magnus, he can,

he's, But Fisher just Feher just Feathered Total of Rettet And so come He'll win all He'll win all

He'll get all He'll get him He'll get up with Noon thing And he'll take Ingen gisler And come to come to the

WEM camp in In 1972 on Iceland Where it's There's really much from and back where Fischer

Krever Krever Enorme for to also on a Mottott on the

Mott have been in nearerate Firm to Fyr and say that I bethaled these,

I don't know these, if you're about there's five million dollars or so, this is

in a lot I think I have a much much money, then where then he after he

had been overtalled of kissing for, like this we must do this for in

the the camp on the war, the will be to set

to set to back to after much about and men and also mass

brock under the camp but canus that to to the end.

And so, he's blizzard. And solyclar, number two in Worldenspasky. Yeah, he had you been a worldmaster,

and was a yearner world's master, but heide of Brett, actually, more, more than Fischer, forsinner, and that was

always, when I began on 80-tall, the question about, where are Bobby Fischer? Not, no, I mean he, he, I think he

is in California, no, he's on he's in the he's in Ust, Europe, so it was,

so it's, so it's, a speculation, where is, and can he vending back? And so to the slut, so vending he

overrassened in 1992, but in an extremt controversial camp, for it is a camp that's sponsored of,

of the cricksfroiter, Slobodan Milosevic in Beograd. And they are, the Serberna are under an so, Yugoslavia,

under an American- boycott. So it end, with that Fisher, that Fisher, then, that will straffful

of Americans and many years later, fengshlet in Japan, where he is on a reise for to be out-levered to

U.S. for to be staffedempt, and for, for the montly for a ten years with fengselstraff in

USA. But, then there is allred that Fisher is, that he is in a very

very lowly till- he had, he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll,

and, he's, how good it was that Americanerner enderly have found what they've been and so

and so so Fisher have it not and it's in the situation in the instead for that he's going to

the Icelanding the they all things they samm they samm and then and then and then

he fisher a Iceland's states-borgerscap as a such taked for that he did for Iceland

with this 72 camp for the Spiltes on Iskavik. And so it's been a global newit sends in many weeks, which isan,

who really sat Iceland on cart. So it ends up with that Japan theremere Fisher in stene for to Iceland. And so ender

his days there and then are in a meget, the grave on landsbugda on Iceland. There can you also draw if

you are on Iceland and it is a so a very bit a photo of a known a famous

a famous he's a photo where you see Fischer's grave and so back it's a

small suppel containers and then I always like I've always like a momentum ory

who's that you should do for a moment and it's enormous fall from

being a global like he's hilled of his land and

the U.S. and really the world after this year

in 1972 and from him later he there is there with shupple container

on the land's big, a shicke turbulent hue and he had it

not very good up in top lock in the story of life of his life

but for an overskrift machine for an icon on many a lot of

you know about about a mythic scabning and have used

also really much of the modern shacken and he was an

one who took sport in this also after premium,

you know, start, I'm going to do shack to a business. It's he he's not that the clock

clock, the clock, the clock, so as you do you, like, if you do in shacks, now at shest.com,

so, they're, with two seconds, tilleg, every time. It was he found on

the fissure shacken, so it also have been VEM in, that you have been at a little

a lot. So, so he stood actually back really much much, but,

as you said, a plagued man who had it was very Absolutely, one of the shackens' frermest skittleser.

I have some those, idretters, sport starner, that's just like, I can be, Fischer, but O.J.

Simpson, ducked up in my my own way of me, so, also, a whole sin-sick speller,

and then, and so, that, and he, he, he'd, all, the greanor there,

et, and the, and the, the whole, the, the, the, the,

it's, it's, it, it's, it will be not, it, it, And Tyson?

Yeah, Tyson and beets of him other... Tyson and beaded o'erre, yeah. Yeah. Fee-Far. And sat well in it, and so came he out of fengsel, and he'll, whole spin-willed, and should go to camp again, and... Have we such?

They're not... They're not sure. No, the nearest... Our fervest bad boy is, well, he's... But it's not, not quite the same. But he also is a little ivy on... And it's a little, like, as Nymann, we were in there. You know,

but he is a sort of modern media skickels that's sure that it's a matter of being,

I think that it's a lot of that it's not so openbart longer, not for many now that it's not

that it's maybe so well so it's very good comish if you're feeling that now it's like

to be in that now there's a little run, then there's there's a lot there's been a little bit

trist also that you can't I know that all P.R are good P.R. That P.R. and that you're... So, bad guys. The... The... What are you?

The Turro-Luittor? The Monosphere. There you see all these guys who just... All P.R. are good P. They chure up. They're... Orntly, guff-ne, things they hold on. Banker, fordick, on the gout.

For to get upmerksment. But I have a little moreso about this with shack in film I don't know where in James Bond there but you're starting on From Russia With Love I remember that it is I don't know but I'm just like I

know for shackett I've been used a factist and it is well actually one of shackmasters we have been inom are not that that's spieler there Yeah because the partying

that are used is between Boris Spaski and David Bronnstein Yeah So it is same spaske that's like tapers in 1972. It's a very a very much part.

I'm a little bit. I'm a kinggambit. I'm my favorite opening, that's an opening there. And it's not a little also to be sure as shacken,

because that he took so, that it's a flied, on a lot, that you've actually used to do that.

Yeah, it's right to do it. Yeah. I think he number four in Speckter, he's,

he's, he's, he's, then, a fictional, can't, I mean, he was Mac Adams.

And so he's, he's just a glass with water and under the water so there's just a little lapped there with a besce

slut to fuck around, like to be fairly, and then he just take he a trek and so he's

he'll be over and so he can he go and meet Blofeld as the chef for Speckter. So he had

so control that was just just to say from, you're just it be fairly now and so it

was it a trek and so it's a legendary stucke, that will I say in

film-istorion. Now I'm going to go in and see that film Now I've got to see that film I've seen it, I've seen it, I've seen it already, I've seen it. I like a bond, I've got to see. I saw a non-bond film. Casino, Royale. It's a very much.

There are also, there, have you, the poker sequence. Yeah, yeah. Or is it baccarat. Yeah, it's poker with hand-danskin. Yeah, yeah. Matt Smickelsen. Matt, Mitch.

Matt, Millen. James Bondfan. And the tidier here, It's a much more fluid and much more correct in the book. So here are there, many of the details you find in the film there are very, so, genomes are, very, so, and they're going to, like, to show this with... When James Bond's story on for his Darth Vader,

so are it not just muscular and action. It's a garene intellect. And therefore, so have one with things, for example, shack and other people, then. And so it's, it's right around the urn. who's who's going to be in the new James Bond now. It's what are the favorite are now. So, what's the most of Amazon Prime

have kept all the righteateness. Amazon Prime lagger all of James Bond from over all of the library. Can they just show up all? They have kept up, the Wrigness Herre universe, they have kept up,

it's not these who are Star Wars, it's not Disney, start, Star Wars, and so they've taken James Bond now, yeah. It's a gremly trist. Yeah, because they will have, have the flest they drit

in that it should see fient out, and be elegant and in good old-gammalack's bondstill, they should

just do all that's to get in money. I have not a lot of I think there's a

strummetters I have a deal, but I have, like, over all. One of the steno I in forlop

I don't have, I'm actually not Disney or or, I had it for, a hensunt to the

young, but I think I gidder not the barpun of Star Wars. even if there

have been in a million spin-offs after that. For the only Disney is, it's much for young there I think, the youngs are,

I think of the new Star Wars thing. But to see on that as a voksen man, I think I was a whole,

it's a whole farreter. It's like, an op-gulp, d'orily, but the favorite to new James Bond is, Idris Elba,

Tom Hardy, Henry Cavill, Jacob Elordi. Idris Elba has been out out of, said that he not said that,

because, yeah, he said, a swart man, it was, you snuck about that he should take over, many who certainly clicked whole of it. He said,

he said, well, that it's not , that's not, James Bond's be able to be woke, so I think it, you know, eliminated

there, I think so Henry Cavill had it passed good, yeah. I'm not sure on who it is. He's played

a suitman, or... I'll see, but it's a little spenned. Yeah, you think it's really spend. The

earlier president in the international shack forbunner is smalt right and straight out with that shack comes from

aliens. Yeah. And it is again about why there's so many rary types of

chacken? This is the first intellectual sport, the menemann. And he meant it,

Kirstan in Lonsin was that he had been a sort of snedere reasonomang, because

it had been shack on more continent for long time since he

meant he could be one one or one that it had said and that

the room wessen had come with shacks to Jora and he was self also

brought-furt of the from his legality in Moscow and was he was taken in

a year in fulgam as hell and taken in a long-lark to

the planet long- unna and it was very very high roomwens but

for us others who had had wished to learn more on that, so said, then he said, after he had

there's been there little, that now had he had a very much job, he had to have done he

and if they therefore could return him to the realietet in Moscow. That they did they do,

and there we then have we not more from the rest of the last 30 years. It's certainly

also a glimrening way to get a little upmersmet on, I've been

that I've been, I've been that, I've been some time I've got all the

I've got He said he was a type of not. Yeah, it did he or not quite either not even was, who he actually shunted how he argued, so he pleaded to talk,

he's arranged here hem. a game with Moammar Gaddafi in Libya. It was also controversial, a other time where he could

tryffa American's sponsors, an American's storebank. For to signer an of talk, he came a little sent. But Americansernerne

went, but to the last come, Kirsan, and so spurted just, just, to be

hushly then, yeah, where are you done, good Kirsan? No, I've

been my good friend Saddam Hussein in Iraq. And then said the Americaner thank for

this time and we are vending to New York again without no signer of some

of some of some he was a little he's he'd he'san. But he

was a dictator in his himstat by Kamii of a Russian

Del-Rep to Putin for some years since he found out that he would be able to he'd be in

a spinnvilt how they hold on when we were in to Gaddafi had you so hemmly ingallel into some

gendterms and so internators where he just just just like and had so hemmly signal for

she's going in, she can be over she can be with over she should be and had

some hare with so it was it go ricton on at all all right

forfeardly. I think we're going to we're in not at it's not not a groves

opening but if you were an unlings in shack. I have actually have written

the story shackbock that it is the kind of the flottest and so

it's the variant there that yeah that's Mutsio Gambit in Konggambit

and also is actually an fantastic history because Italianer Mutsu he was actually

just when it was used, when he was used, the variant but then he told him to another

master in Napoleon who had Salvio. And Salvio he said he had done that,

that it and that was been been brought and it was been observed of Mutsio.

But so many, a pair hundred years after so was it was a that this

had been written, and he misforesto that of the that he was

that it was actually Mutsio who then had spilt this aller, wackerminated in the and therefore

duped him, right and set for Mutsio Gambit. So, Alessandro Mutsio, he is an the very heldigest shackspiller

who actually never spilled it, but like well he'd upcal of this fantastic opening, where you,

with one gang from heft and, and, of all, for to try to trymatt after

just some fow-treck. Yeah. You know who who's who's really who's I think

I think I think maybe I think I think I also in the story in the story that's

there was a other better than better from Napoli but so I just forget I

don't and then I'm listening to buy the shackbock to find on the question

but I ammuffer if you are interested shack and I'm sure I'm ambefx really

really the story shack shack book there is very much to learn there and the new book of their is now in forewondsalg

or are right around the urn't to come in in fordonsal what can't say? Shack and opiners, for overtake it from start. It is, right and I remember I always, that I've written a film manus,

tell that it was that they said so on titler, just say that it is. Say it there, say that there. This is the way you hammered

near the coming modstander. He's great for that you took the turn, Dorshain. Tussend for you. Dism. Gend Lede to preike me.

Jim. Greaker. He's great for all, I said. Yeah, I come in retroella, so. Yeah, I'm here. To there at home in podcast, Goostoren. Thank for listening, and have a strong day in the day. Thank for us.

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