Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Adam Scott: From Step Brothers To Severance

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

Adam Scott joins the guys to talk about his nightmare Coachella experience—especially after Justin Bieber’s concert—along with his love of “Church Chat” and the origins of Severance. He shares stories about Christopher Walken and why making he just wants to make him proud, reflects on Rob Lowe’s good looks, and Step Brothers. Plus, they dive into their shared love of U2 and his upcoming horror film Hokum. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Just to get out so we didn't get to bed until like 5 a.m. I remember the very first church chat. I remember exactly where are you. Are you serious? 100%. Can we talk about Carcinio really quick? Sure. Sure. Because Carcinio, that was deep into your run, but I remember being like, holy shit. And we realized we were both big YouTube fans and no one else really wanted to talk about it with us.

Like our wives were sick of hearing about YouTube. I remember shooting a scene at a dinner table, and John C. Riley and I kind of started improvising and going back and forth, And it just started sort of flowing. And it was really fun, really funny. And after cut, I remember we looked at each other. And he was like, see?

That was fun, right? Okay. So we had Adam Scott on, Dana. And pretty cool, dude. Very interesting. Obviously, the big one is Severance right now, which you have watched. And I tried to explain him.

I thought it was like the office. It is not. Yeah. He breaks down severance for us in a way that David and others of his ill-ca Yeah, he said, tell me, let's say I'm a two-year-old. Yeah, let's say I'm a baby in a baby crib. I'm a baby with a bottle and a crib. Tell me about severance.

How would I get it? Also, obviously, famously in some biggies like stepbrothers, does comedy, does drama, does good-looking. Yeah, he's an extra, extra nice person, very humble and likes to laugh a lot. And he asked us some questions too. So we always like that. But yeah, he's an absolute delight. And we talk about big little lies. We talk about obviously what we just think of him.

Parks and wreck. Parks and wreck. Yeah. In his new scary movie, that sounds really cool coming out. Yeah. And we talk about Rob Lowe and his handsomeness of. Is it called Hocum? What's his new movie?

Hocum. Hocum, I hardly knew him. Enjoy this podcast. It is very scary. The trailer's scary. The movie's scary. We try to break down what it's like to do a horror film. Here he is, Adam Scott.

Are you in witness protection right now? I mean, I 100%. It's fine. We've had it before, Adam, but you're definitely on the run, right? Are you on the set of Hocom? I am. Are you doing reshoots for Hocom? I thought it's got a 90s.

you for joining me this is great hold on i have to turn on a light yeah let's get let's light you how about that well let's get the union grievance grievance more time fix my hair you know dana if you move something and said it's a grievance to the union they don't do it uh there we always yell grievance unsatisfied it's funny i like get the curtains open let's wake there we go isn't this nice what do you have earphones in or i can't see what you have earphones in or i can't see what I have AirPods. He's a pro. Have you seen those before?

They're really cool. I'm not always out at the parties. I don't know what earpods are. I've been in a pod. You know when you fly and you have a pod. That's my pod. By the way, I went to Coachella. I brought my daughter to Coachella.

And the first weekend, you guys didn't go. Did you? Wait, this Coachella. No, I want to hear about this. Yeah, I didn't go. Oh, cool. What happened? It is, I hadn't been in 23 years or something.

Dude, it is a nightmare. That's exactly what I thought would be. Oh, a nightmare. Yeah. Anyway, it's just way too old to go to fucking Coachella. It's like Burning Man with music, kind of, but that has music. It seems like how many outhouses? How many outhouses?

So many, like fleets. of toilets. Okay, let's tell the audience. Coachella is at a polo field three hours out of L.A., already starting on an inconvenient foot. Then when I went, I went to actually Old Chella, which was, remember a company?

See, I went with Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan and Neil Young. Rolling Stones. That sounds good. Unreal. Rolling Stones? But the one I went to was three nights were McCartney, Stones, and the Who? And then they did it again.

But it was the walking alone. I don't know if it's still that way. You can't get near the fucking place. No. And once Bieber ended, we took an hour to find my daughter and her friends, finally found them, got them in the cars. And then it was two and a half hours to leave the parking lot. Just to get out.

So we didn't get to bed to like 5 a.m. Just after a minute. Just so people know. it's not hyperbole. Two and a half hours. You get in your car, it's two and a half hours before you exit the parking.

Two and a half hours till we're less to the parking. I know, I get it, but you think an hour, maybe 90, but you get toward that three hours. Sitting still for an hour and a half

and then inching along for another hour. And that was like the VIP parking or whatever, which is gross. The best of the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Did you stay in, Madison Club. Where do you stay even out there? We stayed, we had like an Airbnb house that we actually it was like a got through a friend or something. So we had like a house for, you know, bedrooms for my daughter and our friends. And it was and then the nights we just went to pick them up and didn't even go to the show. We only went one night because we were like, forget it. Just that even that was impossible just going to pick them up. Oh, would you ever meet someone and find where they were?

No, and no phones work because everyone's trying to use their phones. So phones do not work. Oh, really? They're just completely shut down. Yeah, they just completely shut down. Wow. It sounds awesome. It doesn't sound fun. It does sound kind of fun, but did you have any moment where the hair stood up in the back

of your neck like, this is worth it? Look at this fucking show. You know, I was there. I was really happy to see the strokes and really happy to see David Byrne. Yeah, he's cool. He's great. Yeah.

And then the Justin Bieber show was very impressive. The set and he was charismatic. I just, you know, my daughter and wife and all my friends, they love him. So that was, it was, I mean, so many people. Like hundreds of thousands, of people. It's too much.

It's wooded. Fucking nuts. And they love Bieber. Did he come on his boxers? Or did he put a hoodie on or what do you do? He had like these shorts, leather shorts, and then boots. So there ended up being about this much leg

between the shorts and the boots. Yeah, I saw, I've seen that look. Yeah, he did it, but I thought he did a great job, actually. Did you know how many songs roughly? For Justin Bieber? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how many I knew.

Oh, did I knew? Yeah. Oh, two maybe? That's a low piece of the pie. He's got his own charisma now that's sort of like, there was this troubled time, I guess, or he's been around, and there's a sense like you don't know what he's going to do. Yeah.

Exactly. Like what he did at the Grammings or whatever, he just came out. So there's something about him that's very brings you in. You're like, what's going on? with it. It was fascinating too because he's like a legacy. It's been like 20 years now. So all these people, the audience just had feelings, you know, like these people grew up with him. So it was and he, he was really a good performer and really kind of disciplined and charismatic. I thought it was really interesting and really good. Yeah, I thought what he did was a cool idea. And also with all the

crazy stuff and quotes going on, the record ministry and all the things and all the people and involved and he was in the middle of it. Like everyone has a sort of pulls for him going, what have you been through? Like what is the life of Bieber? Even though he's got all the money in the world and all the fame and the girls still love him and you think you'd grow out of that. And he hasn't. They still go crazy for him. Yeah. And he, he was so young when he started that, I can't even imagine going through all of that at that age. But then also the YouTube thing where he went on a computer and like kind of surfed YouTube with the, it kind of brought this like intimacy and kind of,

I thought it was pretty, pretty, well, that's charismatic because you're just playing in YouTube, like we all do at home and yet there's 100,000 people out there. Hey, listen to this one, you know, and so that's also very, makes it, he and I have had the same sort of career trajectory, yeah. Yeah, I sometimes call him Beeps part two.

It was just a friendly name. I'm going to my boxers on stage when you stand up. That's right. Can I tell you my. And a keyboard? Yeah. My 22nd Bieber story. I think I was either hosting or whatever, but Bieber was maybe 14 or 15 or 15 and he's

somehow on S&L and Lauren, we should have a church chat with Bieber. But his mom was very religious. So we had a meeting in Lauren Michaels office with Justin and myself and Lauren and as well, and had to kind of convince her that it's not satanic. Because the church lady gets a little hot and bothered in her PG-13 way. Yes, she sure does. She does. That's what we're all waiting for.

We want that, Adam. I am a man in a dress, you understand. But we convince his mom. It's why we tune in. But Bieber was so good at it. His acting was fantastic and he was funny. Yeah, anyway. So that's my Bieber story.

You know, Adam, when I watch church chat. Yeah. I, and I wasn't on SNL, but I'm at home. I'm always thinking, I hope this guy fucks up and says something that will irritate the church lady. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So then the church lady will start to get mad and bring up Satan. Oh, yeah, that's what almost always happens. But also, I remember the very first church chat.

I remember exactly where I was. Are you serious? 100% because it was. so clear this was a brand new era of us and all starting it was so crystal clear i was in middle school and we were watching the brand new was it the very your very first episode the very first episode of the cast yeah yeah and fit we had phil hartman phil hartman in there and sigourney weaver was the uh the host okay right and victoria jackson came out and did this whole and I try and Jesus and this and that, pause, pause, pause.

Well, isn't that special? First time I said it on TV and I got a big laugh and went, whew. Yeah. But that was just lucky because it was at home base and it involved a lot of the cast. So it was like a perfect thing for our show, you know, because guests were coming on, Sean Penn and tried to beat me up and I beat him up. So that was a moment in time. but I guess you were at the age where you could see it from young eyes.

Well, it was immediately that Monday at school, everyone was saying, isn't that special? And Satan, did you say, Satan was in that first church chat too, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Satan, something like that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Lauren thought the reverb was a bit much.

I don't know why should. The reverb is key. It has to echo. It has to echo. And for a while, Lauren, shouldn't she have a proper name? You know, and so for one episode,

she was Enid Strick. No one knew what that meant. And then that went away and then it was right back to. I don't remember that. The church lady, like I thought the cone heads, the churchly.

Yeah, I like when you wind up and go, oh my God. Well, I wonder where you acquired that information. Yes. Say, Well, could it be as the wind-up?

Oh, yeah, well, could it be? And then the leap. If it's open? Yeah, you lurch. Yeah, there's kind of a turn towards them, right? Oh, yeah, wind up, wind up. And then lurching. You know, it's hard on the director to get that properly, you know, that timing of that.

Let's run it again and dress. Anyway, welcome to church chat, a church chat, the podcast. where we go over every episode of church chat. My guest today is. I would listen to that. What would you like to talk? Okay, I give you topics. There's obviously severance.

I've heard of it. I guess it's doing well. Oh, good, good. I'm glad. Dana, let me tell him that I am so, I naively and stupidly and adorably thought severance was going to be like the office. Oh, like a comedic sort of thing. Yeah, like a goofy.

And I was watching it going, sure. Huh. Wait a second. This is different. Severn says a great weird book. It's a smart show. I'll leave it at that. Could it be Satan, Dana?

What are you doing? Yeah. I was in Satan? I was doing it. You're doing me watching it. I love it. I mean, I was, you know, looking at the origins of it. And just one of the co-producers are, he was working in a cubicle on a show and sort of the

sort of life suck of that of what am I doing and yeah and it sort of came from there in this work life balance there's all this very a lot of interesting things beneath the actual characters acting and stuff so yeah i think also it it came out in february of 2020 right when sort of everybody was just getting back you know kind of going back to work or staying home and kind of that whole culture was defining itself as the show came on. So I think it also struck some sort of a chord with people figuring out their work-life balance as we were coming out. Everyone took a year off, kind of, in the peak of COVID.

It was a shutdown. And then people were working from home. And then there's been, this is going on now in corporate America. Could I get three days at home? You know, I'll come in twice a week. want. So, yeah, it was very prescient and very of the now. Hey, Ontario. Come on down to BetmGM Casino and see what our newest exclusive the Price's Right Fortune Pick has to offer. Don't miss out. Play exciting casino games based

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Please support our show and tell them our show sent you. It's called Fly on the Wall. Can you explain sort of that hook of when you go to work in the elevator? Yeah. I know. I was any in Audi and implants. Anyway, go ahead. Yeah.

Any Audi implants. That should have been the tagline. Any Audi implants. Yeah, it was like, it was January in 2017 when Ben Stiller, you guys know, obviously, he called me and just sort of told me the basic idea of it, which is there's a procedure you can have done where you get a chip in your head. And when you go to work, you have no idea who, you are in the outside world.

And then when you leave work, you have no idea who you were or what you did at work. So your life is split into two separate tracks. Great setup. Yeah. It's such a great, simple idea. It's like a great Twilight Zone episode or something. Yes. And you understand it easily.

Yeah. And when he, so he calls you, which is, must be very flattering. Yes, very. You know, I think I remember he called me and he may have been on a trip with you, David. I think you guys were, January 2017. I think you guys were like on a trip with like Sandler and those guys doing some. I don't know. We might have been at the Netflix skiing thing where we all went on.

Oh, maybe that's what it was. Maybe that's what it was. Well, that's why. Which, I just remember because I was at Sundance, and I had to step outside to take the call, and I was standing in snow while he was kind of telling me this weird idea of this Dan Erickson's idea. And so I just, and I remember the Muslim ban had just happened.

So that was on TV inside, which is why I just did. So anyway, it was just like a marker in time. I remember exactly what day it was. I remember because I saw him and I said, do you have any show ideas? And he said, no, by the way, do you have a phone? I need to call Adam Scott. That's right. So you're just an integral part of it from the very start.

Nothing on your mind for anything we could do together. He goes, no, anyway, I got to make this call. That's right. But how fun to first of all, Ben, who's a super smart guy and proves it again because the show, I feel like immediately was kind of an interesting hit. yeah oh yeah yeah which was a huge

surprise to us because it kind of felt like you know you never know if something's gonna work or not

at all and this felt like it was really weird and we made it in a bubble during the pandemic so they had no sense of how people

were going to react to it or critics would hate it I just assumed people would make fun of us and it would no one would watch it. I feel like that's a good default position and then you're just pleasantly surprised if anything happens. Keep your low expectations going in Hollywood.

And then when it's a hit, it's magic. Yeah, if I've ever had anything work, you go, people say, did you know it was going to be a hit? You go, there's no idea at this point. I know anything is anything. And also, it's not edited. and you're just shooting scenes and there's so much trust in the director

and then what edits they're going to pick and how they're going to put it together in the music and the marketing. There's so much out of your control. So if something works, it's almost a miracle because, and when things come together like that, it's such a gift because you're doing your job very well

and then you see the cast acting like, this seems cool. Everyone's good. Yeah. It still means nothing. Totally. Because you just don't know. No.

And will people buy it? I've been a part of things where it's just like, oh, man, this is, this is really clicking. This feels, this feels great. And then nothing. Nothing. Just complete silence. Do you want to name that project or no? Well, there's also, we all have them.

And there's even like the indies you do where you don't even hear from those people ever again. Right. Like, you know, the movie never even comes out. Like, you just never hear from them. It's always good news travels fast in this business. Bad news travels very slowly. You don't even know if it's coming out. Oh, it came out a week ago.

Oh, it did? Really? It was good. I think with severance, you know, the consistency of tone from the brain trust, whoever, you know, obviously it's been and the brain trust kept it really consistent. Hey, should we speed it up a little bit here? I don't know if you got notes. Could we get the plot going a little further?

Because right now, you know, but it stayed in its lane. it never patronized you, it never tried to. So that created this mystery that was so compelling, the smallness of it, you know. Yeah, Ben really, I mean, Dan Erickson is a brilliant writer. And Ben really was sort of, we were kind of finding those first few weeks in the first month or so. And you're a producer, too, by the way. So already interject. You're a producer, so continue.

You can say you in these stories. Yeah. So you're with Ben and you're part of that whole. Yeah, there's more than just. Ben, I didn't mean to just say... Yeah, but at the beginning, it was really been spearheading, like, figuring out the tone of this place in this world and not quite knowing. And we were just kind of, it was just sort of trying stuff out until we kind of found it and

it started feeling right and couldn't quite articulate it, but we knew it when we saw it and kind of felt it and just kind of continued once we figured out. Yeah, because sometimes you get hit with a good idea like that. And then the really fun is you know when ideas stick with you and you get excited and then you want to talk about it. And I'm sure now you're all running with a great idea. And that's one of the most fun things. Even in comedy is like, oh, this is the setup. Okay, go.

We all, oh, what if we did this? What if we did this? And someone's kind of got to steer it and make the final call. But that's the real fun. And then when it's working, it's so fun. And then you're getting John Tutro and Christopher Walker. It's crazy. It's crazy.

Yeah, crazy. Don't know what I'm doing. I still can't believe Christopher Watkins and John Totoro. It's so crazy. Yeah, I mean, these are like iconic. Did you have any lunches with Christopher Wier or any exchanges with him? Because we all love Chris and we've all had funny moments with him because he's a one-off acting. I just, yeah, just the great.

I mean, I didn't really have a ton of. of scenes with him. We had scenes where we were both there. And I just, I'm, I, I, I'm just so afraid of saying or doing something that he would think is lame. Not being cool. Of course. Yeah, I would do. I've done. But you guys have worked with them. He's such a sweet person. Oh, yeah, SNL a lot. I saw him last year. I was doing Biden on SNL. And I ended up at a wardrobe fitting hanging out with him on a couch. He was just there and I got to talk to him for an hour. And at one point, I just said, do you paint?

And he goes, of course. All old actors paint. We all paint. You know, stuff like that. He didn't, he looked at my phone, don't have one. You don't? And he doesn't watch TV. I go, well, what do you do at night with your wife?

She watches. What do you do? And he says, magazines. Every night. I mean, you have a ton of... Magazines. Magazines. That was inside.

People. National Inquirer. National Geographic. You name it. I'm looking at it. It's almost... Reading. Opening.

Pages. Cables. Pages. Turning. Ad. Turning. Words. What about when you got someone like walking and you go,

I feel like he's giving me a break. I'm starting at 100% coolness and everything I say to him, I'm dropping to 92. 100%. You're going to go to lunch today and it's 84 and I'm like, 100% losing cool points. So I'm just going to stay what everything's mean. He can't really hate me yet. That's right. I would, if I say nothing, maybe he'll hold me in, maybe he'll just remember me. I remember, oh, I remember one thing in season one. I had a scene that he was in where I had a, big speech that I had to like rally the troops and he was standing there. And I asked if I could go, there were a bunch of people in the scene.

So they're going person by person to shoot the coverage, right? So we're doing it all day. And I asked if I could go last because I wanted to get as much practices, rehearsal or whatever as possible at while they shoot everyone else. And I remember to Turo being like, why are you going last? You're crazy. You're going to be exhausted. it. And they're going. But I was so, I didn't, by the time I did it, it was going to be in front of Christopher Wachan and John Zaturo, so I didn't want it to suck. And so, and I was having trouble with

it. I couldn't quite, didn't feel like I was, you know, when you're doing it, doing it and you're just like, something isn't slotting in. It's just not. And then finally, by the time they got to me, I felt like I had at least found the shape of it. And afterwards, we were, we were just hanging out chatting and Waukin was walking behind me just to get by. And as he walked by, he grabbed under my elbow and just gave it a squeeze and a shake as he walked by, which may have just meant, would you please move out of my way? But to me, it meant, all right. Yeah. Good job. You got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely it meant that. And I'm getting chills from that. I want less like that. I want those compliments.

He went to the same day. After we did a sketch, SNL, he got made a headlock between the slats. And it was painful. What are you doing? Ruined it. But we all have stories. I have a very quick one I've told before, but you might appreciate it because it's very Christopher walking.

So we're playing aliens on SNL and it's a jack handy sketch. And every time our trap door comes down to say a load of the earthlings, we kill one of them accidentally, but we don't know. So we come out and there's farmers. What are you doing? And we try to go, we come in peace. And then he has a line where he says like almost like a cartoon. He goes, let's get out of here.

And then we run back up into the cardboard spaceship. And he's in my face laughing so hard. He's almost crying because he said, let's get out of here. So last fall, when I was hanging out with him, I brought that up. Let's get out of here. And he was like, just kind of like, yeah, I remember that. So then when we're saying goodbye, he's like 20 feet away. and I say, see you, Chris.

And then he turns and he goes, let's get out of you. And then he did his head back and laughed his ass off. Oh, that's great. Laughing his ass off as he walked back. Oh, God, I love him now more. I just want to insert something here because, you know, you're an incredible actor.

I just heard you tortured about that scene. I mean, you're big little lies. I mean, you're like an A plus actor. I mean, that's, why you work a lot. I got exhausted reading your Wikipedia page. This guy's been in more movies than Chaplin during the World War II era. It's like Oswald and the prison transfer.

See, I can't do it. I can't do it. Yeah. Chris, thanks. Give me a topic. I'll try to film. Geography like that since the Oswald prison transfer. That's right. That's what it is.

Okay. Here's the guy owns a local strip club. He's got a gun. Who are they strunging away? Yeah. You're bringing the Scott kid into the flying the wall perennial. He's done a couple little chunks in that career. Getting up in Reese Witherspoon's face on occasion as the grumpy husband, all right?

Oh, my God. That's incredible. I remember the off-white album. Yeah. He's a genius. That album was everything. Talking about the big gulp and 32 ounces of any fluid. Like, you could only, you would only have that if you walk directly off the surface of the sun.

Would you need that much fluid in your life? 44 ounces. You can park your jet skis. That's right. Only drink with an undertow. That's right. If you talk to him, we'll have these conversations on the phone. And he is just like that.

Really? Yeah, he doesn't have to practice. It's reference city. That's special he did. I opened for him. Did you really? And I was. There was that.

It ended up being an off white album. There was black and white, I think was one. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was that the one was the off-white album recorded? I don't have an album and a special, but black and white. And Mr. Miller goes to Washington. Is that one?

That's one, yeah. And so I opened for him because he's my favorite comic. of time. Yeah. It's mostly from the writing. And then I, and he was nice to me. And then he had Schneider open one.

And, and then after that I started going the road with Dana. What? Oh, how fun. That must have been so fun. Well, I got to watch these guys fucking crush it all the time.

And I'm like, it's turned into a research paper of all of them. Well, it's just, you get into these when you're on the road or even a movie set or something. You get punchy and you get into these rhythms, but Dennis Miller and I both hated flying. So I'd be in front of him. He's behind me

or flyer. He goes, Carvey, if you see or hear anything, I want to be, I want to be the first to know. And then he had this thing that he would do. You know, I want to tell you guys, without a doubt, you're the reggaeist muffin bunch of knuckleheads. I've ever had the pleasure to command. You know, that trope from movies. And he would do that endlessly. But we would laugh at the driest, weirdest stuff. When you get punchy on those roads. So you guys would, was it just on your off weeks,

you would go on the road? Is that? Or was it just summer break? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mostly, you know, I don't, you know, for us. We, I did a tour with him and Kevin. Did a lot of dates with David. Kevin Nealins, great, man.

Kevin Neal, Dennis and Dana did the swatch sponsored tour and I was so fucking jealous. I'm like, how fun. These three guys go hang out and they play like, Free watches. I'm from in Arizona. Really cool watches. I'd go watch. I'd go watch.

Swatches get a bad rap, but they're really, but actually, so they were killing it and making good money, and I was like, a summer, you're on SNL,

and then your summer is fun. I couldn't believe in this situation. 20 cities. But also you guys were just, like that was in the midst of SNL, so people must have been going. nuts everywhere you went. Not that they don't still, but it must have been so fun and electric. Yeah, that was right after my first season. So we did 20, 20 cities. And I remember we were getting

$5,000 or something. When we finished 10, we had made $50,000. So we called it, and we threw a little party at the hotel. We called halfway to a big bill. Because to make $100,000 over a summer, was unbelievable. It's halfway to a big bill, Carvey, the way we're going. Just remember, show business is one thing. It's all about securing rectangular greenback. Is that real? That's dead real.

Even if he said it once, he said it a thousand times. Why are you turning down this commercial? Why aren't you doing this? Carvey, this town will eat you up and spit you out. Nobody cares about you, all right? Oh, God. It's all about security. recurring rectangular brink.

All right. Back to the sky. Yes. I would just, I said it to Marcello. I said, make sure you have a wall of money that can spit out

passive income at a certain point. So you're still working, but you don't do anything for the money anymore. You know? Right. You do it because you want to. Yeah.

Sure. There you go. Yeah. He was on Parks and Rec. Is it any way you can make fun of Roblo? him. Was Roblo better looking when he came out of the makeup trailer or it didn't matter? No, they had to, they had to, when he went in the makeup trailer, they had to somehow take it down.

Take it down a little bit, 10% Rob. That's right. It's a different trailer. Tommy Boy, it'd say bring it down about 30. I'd whisper to the makeup. Yeah, if you could take the handsom this. A little ruddy would be nice. He really is a beautiful looking person.

Unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah, he is. He's, yeah, and he loves comedy. He would love to put prosthetics on and play some weird character. You know,

he loves everything we do. He love being on SNL all those times. Yeah, and in Wayne's world, he loved being in Wayne's world. He was so perfect, and he's just, to hang out with, he reads a lot,

he wrote that great autobiography. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was great. I love his line in Wayne's World when he's kicking you out of the office and telling you you can validate your parking. Just what, such an asshole. But also, speaking of the prosthetics, remember him in that Soderberg Liberacea movie?

He's so great. He plays the plastic surgeon, and I don't know how, what they did, but they pull his face back, and he can barely speak because his face is pulled back so tight. Yes, I'm sure he loved that. Instead of going to makeup

where they try to make me look better, and then I take it off the end of the night and start crying what I look like. Rob gets to go, make me ugly, but only for eight hours. And then I get to take it off and go, whew, back to my beautiful self. It is funny.

When you... When you have makeup on and you kind of catch yourself in the mirror throughout the day, you can convince yourself that, oh shit, you know what? I actually, I don't have like those red spots. And then when you wipe it off, you're like, oh, yeah.

Fuck. Didn't Ben Stiller, I think I read this somewhere. But Ben Stiller said about you that you can, with your physicality and your act, you can play the regular guy or you can play the regular guy or you can play kind of the sexy handsome guy. You can just through your, you can change the way you look and carry yourself

and transition from those two types of roles. Did you, do you remember that? No, but that's very kind of him to say. Yeah. If he did indeed say that. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't, I, maybe that's a very generous, Well, you have a pretty stout range.

You've done a lot of things, you know. And, you know, sure, you know, no, you're terrific to just, you know, we want you to play the, you know, the sexy. Sorry, I don't know why I'm punchy. It's early here. I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait.

The Carson, can we talk about Carcinio really quick? Sure. Sure. Because Carcinio, that was deep into your run, but I remember being like, holy shit, this is like a brand new angle. You'd been already doing Carson for a few years and it always scored. I mean, it was always. And then Carcinio with the fingers and that was a brand new angle.

Yeah, that was a comment. And he got pissed off. Is that right? It was later, you know, that one, he was like, they're making fun of our she knew as much as they're making fun of us. So he kind of was okay with that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good. Hey, do you know that, Ed?

A crib is called a bed. And a bed is called a crib. Did you know that? All right. Oh, my. That was what I might be my favorite thing I've ever done because I literally, I had no sense of trying to be funny. I was just inhabiting the earnestness of you at home.

And Phil was just this hysterical laugh button. Oh, my God. He's so cool. Those kind of things. And that was at the time, you know, this is a great escalatory chapter for Carson. And call him Carcinio and do the Arceio thing. What a funnier matchup name to fit perfectly. I know.

Ligel or someone to go Carcinio. And it was like, oh, my God. I'm funny. And the title card and more to come, except it's all like neon and like they're trying to hip everything up and there's no desk. A turtle. Yeah. An oil painting of a of a mongoose.

They have neon lights and stuff. The one that got him upset was when Susan Day was on and it was, I didn't think it landed anyway. I tried to get it cut, but Johnny didn't know that the Partridge family was off the air. And that kind of bothered. Really? So how many she, what she? Well, we've been off for 10 years.

Yeah, you never know. But over time, that's so weird. I didn't like that it dinged him, you know, because love Johnny. But I think for the most part, he liked it. For most of him, he thought it was fine. That's great. That's great. So now is Ruben Kincaid a regular cast member now?

No, he's, that's over. He died five years ago. We don't do that show anymore. Okay. And you have the bust. Gentleman joined you, Adam Scott, he's had success with a show called Severance, you know, they did.

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Love the way. Back to our incredible guest. What about stepros? And then we'll get to Hocom. Yeah. Hocom. Because is it called Hocom? Hocom.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hocom. I watched the trailer. Of course, it's good when it says nightmare fuel. Yeah. Of course. That just gets you running out to the theater. Well, it does because the people that like scary movies are getting immune and they got a goose

of it. I got scared when it goes deep in the woods. I go, uh-uh. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Why is someone walking in the woods more than 10 feet? Right.

Anything that in the woods is scary. It really is frightening. It's, it, and I'm in it, and I found it super scary, which is, you know.

While you were shooting, you got scared? Yeah, two questions. When you read a script, it's a horror movie, I don't read them. Is it scary?

And you kind of like the idea, of course, it's got all kind of come together. And if you picture it the way you read it, you probably go, this will be great. If we can do it like I'm picturing it. Yes. Yeah. Yes. When you're reading it, it's it's more an intellectual thing like, oh, I can see how that would be super scary if all the pieces come together. But I had seen this guy, Damien McCarthy, the filmmaker, I had seen his

previous movie called Oddity, which is super weird and super scary. So I knew he would be taking a side door into it and and making it scary in a in a strange way or a different way. So that that really helped kind of ensure that this was going to be interesting and scary. By the way, right before we came on air, I saw it. It's at 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. Oh, that's great. Already. Yeah.

And I think the byline is a kind of movie I'd want to see. I love the idea of a writer is mourning his parents' death and he's going to Dublin, right? Ireland. Yeah. I mean, just that feels like interesting, you know? Yeah, that's part of what's cool about is it's a real story and a real kind of character piece. But then it takes a turn and it's super scary. And so, yeah, I think it's a really fun ride.

It has a lot of, you know, jokes and stuff too. Listen, it's great. They came to you because, again, there's a lot of people out there. And you get like a guy, luckily, I mean, a horror movie would be fun for me if I just read it and go, if they just did it like this, I think it would be worked. But when you already see a blueprint, this guy has already done this. Now, he knows what he's doing. Yes. So you're half, more than halfway there.

And then you read it. You go, oh, I like it too. And then you. So it's not like you're an odd choice. It's just it's got to be someone. Then you do fit kind of a writery, that kind of thing. So good casting, good setup. And then you've seen it and it's good that it's scary.

I mean, that's what everyone's looking for these. I would predict there right now in Hollywood, there's people in rooms working on projects. And someone is saying, hey, do you think we could get Adam Scott? Oh, fuck. That'd be great. He's really busy. I'm just saying, if you look at all your stuff, the range of it and you're, hitting it, you know, between all these shows.

And, I mean, obviously, Big Little Lies was a smash. You know, it was one of those. Yeah. Everyone asked to see it. It was so well done. And your character was just kind of just heartbreaking. And it's just, it's, you know, human, human. Yeah. That was one where I was, Parks and Rec had just ended.

And I was having trouble even being considered for anything that wasn't comedic. and I just wanted to try something different. So I heard about that and just went and auditioned and really wanted to be a part of it. So I had to kind of prove that I could do that to get the role and was happy I did. So were you typecast after Stepbrothers or anything? We're like, he's a comedian. He can't act.

Well, it was funny because before Stepbrothers, I hadn't really been in, hadn't really done a lot of comedy. I was a comedy nerd since I was a little kid, but, but had never, I was kind of thought I would be like a dramatic actor or whatever. And,

but then step brothers and the way those guys work, after that finished, I was, I kind of felt like I never wanted to go back. It was so fun. And Will and Adam and John C. Riley and those guys. So that kind of changed me. And it also kind of gave me a career.

Like I was able to finally like piece a career together after that. Well, that's a big one in the all-time comedies. It comes up a lot. Do you, do people know you a lot from stepbrothers or is it more severance and other stuff? These days it's severance, but there's always parks and wreck, but definitely stepbrothers a lot. Like people love, they just keep watching it. and on a lot of tour buses, like athletes and musicians watch stepbrothers a lot. Yeah, yeah.

That's up in the rotation for sure, yeah. I feel like if I wasn't in it, it would be one that I had seen like 30 times, you know. How much do they allow you to be playful? Were you? Obviously, they'll put a camera on Will and go for 10 minutes or whatever. Were you given some license to try things? Because that is pretty heady stuff on film, you know, that playful. Completely.

And they gave that license to everybody. And that's part of what freaked me out is I had never really done that before. So it took me a while. I remember I would come to set with like jokes written on a piece of paper than I had in my pocket. And I would pull it out during scenes and during my coverage just because I wanted to get. And just didn't know like. And then, you know, after like three months or so, towards the end of the shoot, I remember shooting a scene at a dinner table.

And John C. Riley and I kind of started improvising and going back and forth. And it just started sort of flowing. And it was really fun, really funny. And after cut, I remember we looked at each other and he was like, see? That was fun, right? Like, I had finally kind of at least started figure it out. And so, like I said, after that, I just kind of didn't really want to go back. And then Parks and Rec, there was improvisation stuff too.

A lot of people stick to the word of the script thing. And they just say, that's it, cut, move on. And it feels like you're being greedy. I've been on comedies where I don't even want to be greedy. Even something like grownups, when it gets to your car, you don't want to go, I'm not trying to take over here, you know. everyone's kind of throwing each other jokes, but especially if you're new to their situation,

you don't want to go, here's my 18 things I'm going to say when you cut to me. But at least you start to be prepared going, if they cut to me, I guess I'm allowed to try stuff or at least say, do you guys mind if I say this on this one or whatever? And then you get more relaxed about it. Yeah.

And then also Adam McKay would be yelling jokes from the monitors. Right, right, right. If there was anything, they would always have a bunch of great jokes to throw you and alts and yeah i would just say that you know um before digital it was kind of you know it was hard to you know can i do more takes or can i do a five minute take and it would run out and stuff it seems like 1922 and the old once digital came in you could i i just think that and i don't know if brando created a way for him the greatest ever i suppose to discover

it while the cameras will, in other words, you're not rehearsing over there and you go, oh, we nailed it. You're like, no, write it now when you were improvising like that. That's right. It's new to you. And how do you, like the high of that, right now it's happening. You don't have to act in a way. Totally.

Yeah. That was the thing that turned it all upside down for me, shooting stepbrothers, was watching these guys and their lack of preciousness that they're just, they'll do a take or two scripted. and then they'll just screw around. And the thing that clicked for me, I was like, oh, these guys, they don't have to use all of this. They're just going to play and use all the good parts. That's all it is. For whatever reason, that hadn't, I was so dead set on getting it right.

And probably because I had such limited time and small roles where I was always like wanting to. So watching these guys, it was like, oh, you just fuck around and then cut together all the stuff that works. all the great stuff and then you have the great thing. Yeah, I never got to do that. I think it's, I think it's really a great thing. No, not really. Not like that. Not because I didn't do a movie on digital where there was time,

time to just let it run. But yeah, you can really feel it. And comedy is excited in the way that what you think is just a throwaway. And then you go to the preview and it gets this gigantic laugh, you know. Totally. As David knows. A year after it's released, you go, now I'm hearing that these are their favorite jokes because now they've seen it 10 times.

Right. And they like the minutia and all these throwaways. But I agree. It's so much fun to do that. It's very hard for the director like McKay. The harder thing is what to throw away because you're throwing away 100% great joke. There's sometimes when it's like there's three and you go, this is funny for this reason. This is better.

This is more of a weird one. Two of these got to go and that must kill you. It's tough. Well, I remember I went to a test screening of Stepbrothers, which was a couple months before it came out, and it didn't totally work yet. Like, the singing in the car scene wasn't in it, and it was just different and different jokes, and they were just trying different things out, and then a few adjustments, and it totally works. David, I'm curious, like with the wrong Missy, which is so great. Was it, were you guys improvising a lot on that? Yeah, especially Lauren, who played Missy.

That's so great. There's Swartz and there's all these people and it's in Sandler movie. So at least we're all from that world of let's do we can. And the best is just, she's more the crazy one. So I always have to be more restrained, but I would try to pitch her jokes to be. And she didn't need much help. I mean, honestly, to get someone to come in sort of out of the blues. You've done a lot in L.A.

A lot of improv really helped. The first day we shot, we were in the first scene of the movie, really, we were on a date. And she's yelling at this guy, quit eye fucking me. And it wasn't in the script. Everyone, and then we all laugh. And then the director would go, how about a little drunker? And then she goes, okay.

But that's where you have to be good because it isn't a line. It's just play it like you're more, now defend Spade. Now, and then she goes, he'll come over there. and beat the fuck out of you. I'm like, I don't even know this girl. Like, but it's always fun because it's a fun way to react against a crazy person. Totally. So there's like two things going on, but thank you for saying that.

Ed, that was really fun. All those movies, hopefully, especially with Happy Men's, just you try a lot when you can. And like Dana's saying, I'd been there in movies where they go, can I try something like, we have 30 seconds of film left. And everyone's like, if you want. And you're like, I got to cram it in. I'm, that's different than just going, sure, you know, let's just keep going and we've got to move on at some point.

That's, you know, I think that stood out because, you know, people say, well, you know, if you look back, it's stepbrothers and, uh, Tropic Thunder and the hangover and, and there was sort of a shift. And that R rated comedy with her just popped. And sometimes it just happens. Great. It's great. It's great.

It was really fun watching you play the straight man at, and, and, you know, really, really well. You're able to be the straight man and really score and be hilarious, but also let her have all of this room to just destroy. I appreciate it. Really good movie.

I went off of the Ben Stiller, Jason Bateman, overwhelmed guy. You know what I mean? They're very good. Meet the parents, Ben Stiller. That's right. What's going, yeah, it's like, so it was fun to do something that was that because usually I'm a fucking ham bone.

All right. Thank you. Anything else for this young man, Dana, because he's got to get back to. Just research. I like the podcast that you do bands. I did want to mention that because I found that you and Scott Ackerman do these podcasts. Are you talking REM?

I guess the first one, the first one was you two. Oh, you two. Okay. And are you guys deciding together? How did that happen? Like, I love you too. Let's just do a podcast where we just talk about you too. Yeah, it was because we had on one of his podcasts, I was just a guest on it. I made a YouTube reference, like as a joke. And he was like, oh, yeah. And we realized we were both big YouTube fans and no one else really wanted to talk about it with us. Like our wives were sick of hearing about YouTube. So I was just like, maybe we just go through their discography together and right up to because they were supposed to have a new album coming out. And then end with their new album. So we just started doing that. And then eventually had the actual band on a couple of times.

Oh, really? Yeah, it was crazy. We went and saw them in New York and interviewed them in their dressing room. and then another time interviewed them at a like the recording studio it was wild yeah i remember hearing in the name of love just probably fm radio early 80s and went okay that's how i felt when i first heard the police as well it's like oh this is new yeah police man here is you know and the theatricality and and uh yeah you know that you know we're cold play they have uh people influence sort of by that loose

baseline they would do. It was kind of a new sound. I love Coldplay too. I think they're brilliant. I'm at the beginning of Sunday bloody Sunday went da-da-da-da-da-ha-ha-ha-ha-da. It's amazing because it's all pretty simple you know, kind of the

post-punk kind of simple no one's like shredding. It's just really disciplined. But you put it all together and there's a magic to it. Do you remember? bass and the drums are such a great I'll let you go after this. Yeah.

Go ahead. I don't need to go. You guys, I'm fine. No, you've got to go. They told us he gets delivered at 52 minutes. But I went to you two in Arizona. I was going after Police Academy 4 came out, Dana. Thank you.

Which answered all the questions from Police Academy 1, 2, and 3. And so I. Was that your first movie? I was my first movie. Yeah. And I went and saw it in a day with my friends in Arizona. Yeah.

And then we, a little sparse in the theater. Then we drove to Utah at Arizona ASU Stadium. And two trivias. They canceled. Rattling on? Oh.

They canceled because it was the governor didn't have Martin Luther King holiday. Oh, wow. So they, the show was canceled. They wouldn't go on. I remember that. Then they came back and did rattle.

They did rattle. Hum. Okay. So I was in the audience. Yeah. For Rattling Hum? Yeah. I think they did part of it. Like they did like maybe streets have no name or they, I don't know what they did. But yeah. I think they jumped around in Rattel and Humb. Is that possible? Yeah. But it ends with that big Sun Devil Stadium. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as I remember. The, can I mention, uh, I mentioned this afore a bit, we rarely talk about you too. But when I was hosting the MTV Music Awards where David was

writing on the show. We did a remote. You too was in Detroit. Yeah, played a wrong with them. I didn't even know if I was staying on the beat, but that was quite a thrill. Even better than the real thing. That was right.

Yeah. Bucket list. I know. That was incredible. That was, I mean, I got to have a, you know, a pre-call with, and I kept calling him Bono accidentally. What a fucking moron.

Just from nervous. It's Bono, man, because we're doing jokes like, you know, lucky charms and all that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not booed about it. I'm not booed about it at all. I'm not booed about it. Is that something? You mean bugged?

No, I'm not booged about it. Oh, don't buggy. I go, should we do a sequel to Wayne's World? I wouldn't touch it. Hey, fuck you, man. We love to have him on them. So. That is crazy.

you were able to stay on beat via satellite with them. Via moon landing. I had a monitor and it was just on a wing and a prayer. It was kind of just a basic in the pocket thing. But I don't know if I ever was really in sync with them, but I guess it appeared like I was. I remember watching it over and over again. It was cool.

Jesus, I'm going to watch your stuff over and over again. Yeah. Big little live. Even it out. Watch that again. Step brothers tonight with the wife. There you go. So Hoko, it sounds a great film.

I know that they're going to be like, did you mention the movie? Yeah, we did. Thanks, you guys. Thanks for mentioning it. It's been a pleasure. I was so thrilled when I saw your name come up. Thank you.

I just like what you do. I like the way your job as an actor. And you are and seem like a perfectly centered, nice person. Thanks. Well, I'm such a massive fan of both of you guys. So I'm really flattered to be on. Hey, guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app.

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