Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Alex Moffat

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Dennis Miller impressions, the nuances of playing Biden, and life after SNL with Alex Moffat. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-pol...icy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:59 Our guest is Alex Moffitt. And first off, a huge Dana Carvey fan. He was very effusive, you know, complimenting you. You land and grab a fan when they're introduced to you at age five or six. Apparently, he saw Chopin Broccoli, the goofy piano song I did on Saturday Night Live, and then he was going around singing it at five and six. So Alex Moffat on SNL for six years. Great, great. That's a catchy one.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Does a lot of stuff with Mikey Day. They do Trump's Kids. Trump's Kids is styled golf. He did Guy with a Boat on him. Update. That was another huge hit. And super versatile performer and actor and a hell of a nice guy. I love him talking about my stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Yeah, he loves Dana and he was great. A lot of fun, very energetic. Has a new show. I think it's Bad Monkey with Vince Vaughn, is that correct? Yeah, Bad Monkey with Vince Vaughn. He just works a lot. I think he was on Broadway last year and he had a great run on SNL and we go into all that and more. And more. My parents went to Denison and so did he. Is that who went to Denison? Because I forgot to tell them. Anyway, that's not the most exciting part of the interview.
Starting point is 00:03:27 But I don't tell it. So it's at least not really part of that. So you sat through it once, you had to hear that once, that's all. Yeah, it's fun to get to know him on the show. And he's really cool. Just listen, please. Just listen, stop asking questions,
Starting point is 00:03:44 just listen and you'll hear all the answers and smash that subscribe button. Oh, yeah. We are in twenty one to smash it. Beat the shit out of it. All right. Here he is. Alex Moplin. Look at these change this fucking gang bang. I love your chair. I'll take it. Plato is calling wants his chair back. I'm gonna change this fucking gang bang. I love your chair. I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Plato is calling, wants his chair back. Okay. Hey, choo-choo wants his chair back. Hey, choo-choo train. No one does Dennis back to me, that's fantastic. Hey, you sounded like Jimmy Reese sitting in a watermelon with a Funko pad, okay? Okay, so the young guy's doing the Denman.
Starting point is 00:04:25 All right, that's good. He's got his hooks down. I'm up here high in the high country. Tonight we're going to be eating octopus from Sri Lanka down at Mickey D's place. That's Michael Douglas. It's a good Michael Douglas, wow. Now that's Dennis talking about Michael Douglas's buddy up there in Montecito. Let's a good Michael Douglas, wow.
Starting point is 00:04:45 No, that's Dennis talking about Michael Douglas's buddy up there in Montecito. Let's just talk about, let's just do some of your characters the whole time. Who replaced me as his friend. Guy with a boat or the acid head. God, we're getting right at it. Let him settle in.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Well, I wanna riff with Alex. I want, he, we all do him, me and Dennis back and forth. Give us a topic for Dennis. David. Just any topic or reference. You did a casino gig. Go ahead. So Dennis talking about a casino gig?
Starting point is 00:05:19 Yeah. Okay. That's good. You know, I'm at the,'m in I'm in. I guess. And that's. No, I'm a. That's a real. This is lots in the.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Eastern seaboard here. And meanwhile, spade is off doing the Tempe improv. Doesn't have to open for a blackjack table. I have the pit boss giving the hook after 42 minutes. We got to get people back out on the floor. Chooch. Yeah, yeah, you did a fucking two minutes long. We just lost 28 million bucks in the casino. Do you do that anywhere?
Starting point is 00:05:57 Did you do it on SNL? Is my question because no, it's really funny. It's an impression of your Dennis Miller, which I've just had in my head for a couple decades now. Yeah, that was really fun. And Dennis would be like, Dennis is incredibly wealthy, hope he's listening to this. And he's got kind of a very relaxed, almost tight, almost like a Bob Hope thing going on,
Starting point is 00:06:22 you know, feeling good about things, you know, going around. But as far as playing at casino, it'd be like it was great. Yeah. And a short hop to Toledo and three different cars to get me down to the South Carolina beach area where Harry's Hoff bra had a nickel slot machine thing came out to 12 pithy people who bought tickets, did a quiet 45. The great thing about Dennis, when he used to play the desert in, all you were, you just had to do 60 minutes,
Starting point is 00:06:52 he had a clock, and he's a killer stand up, and one of the greatest. But he could be mid-joke, he sees 60, and then he goes, okay, good night, and he doesn't break stride. He doesn't break stride in the casino back to his room. Good for him. I mean, yeah, just.
Starting point is 00:07:08 We did, Alex. Yes. Alex, what's that casino above Dallas into Oklahoma? It's fucking huge. Oh yeah, Thackerville. Thackerville. Yeah. Made me think of Unksville.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I did it with, my last gig before COVID was him and Norm McDonald. And we all flew there together in some little thermometer plane. Spudly, you want to split it with me? I'm like, well, I'd love to stand up. I'd rather take United. I can stand a little bit. So we take this thing, which is basically an MRI with wings.
Starting point is 00:07:38 We're just laying down and and then we get there. And then it's between him and Norm and how fucking crazy we all three of us are. And he's like, hey, Spud, you mind closing the show? I gotta get out of here. I go, we're all in the same flight. Why do you gotta go? And then Norm goes, I'm not going at the end. And I go, so I have to go after these two assassins.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And then we all have to do, I think 40, Which is too much. Yeah, because they kill too fucking hard Anyway, it was fun You're gonna close that pal. I'm going to the high stakes room. Oh Yeah, that's right. He goes that's your closing back a rat. So that's your norm, right? Apparently so Yeah, hey Yeah, that's that's funny. I was jokes. You're doing up norm, right? Apparently so. Yeah, that's funny how those jokes you're doing up there, right? The crowd's really going crazy for it. I sucked. Yeah, I was going to say that,
Starting point is 00:08:32 but I thought I'd say something else. Yeah, I agree. Try to walk less than 40% of the crowd before I get on. You know, why? What do you mean? Why was there not at least one guy with a camera, the minute you got on the plane, all the way through the gig, all the way, I mean just that. Because it would have been too funny.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Honestly, people say, oh I bet it's funny. It was funny. It was funny because those two guys, two of the funniest guys out there and then just listening, it would have been unreal. I followed Dennis when he's in a rhythm toward the end of his act and he's hitting, it's on-roam.
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Starting point is 00:09:15 sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, sing, I mainly got I got the gig on, you know, SNL through more charactery stuff. But yeah, I do. I do stand up to I did. I did a fast up in Canada with Spade. Our paths almost crossed. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 00:09:37 The Toronto comedy, Calgary or what was like Calgary or something? Yeah, one of those cities in the fucking Saskatoon. Yeah. Yeah. You can territory. I did one, I think when he comes there is outdoor gig and you got to take fucking seven connections to get there. So everyone's going to do that the whole time. It's going to be an hour and a half of Dennis.
Starting point is 00:10:04 It gets the to the essence in such a way that makes me laugh, you know, everyone's just gonna do Dennis Miller. The whole time. It's gonna be an hour and a half of Dennis Miller. It gets to the essence in such a way that makes me laugh. Coming on the Zoom with Harvey and Spade, couldn't get a word in in the first 11 minutes. That was kind of an interesting motif. Interesting milieu happening there today. So I- Where were we?
Starting point is 00:10:21 Okay, sorry, go ahead, Dan. No, I have ADD, oka butterfly, I got a time issue. What were we talking about? No. Sorry. Go ahead. No, I'm just I have a DD. Okay butterfly. I got a time issue What were we talking about? No you? Casinos great Greg Gutfeld and Tucker Carlson Did I do Greg Gutfeld? No, I guess I got the wrong information from James Austin Johnson Maybe I I think maybe I did a gut field thing or was it time.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah. Hmm. Hmm. Sometimes you're just assigned. Didn't get on air, but he thought you had a great take on it. But, you know, oh, I that's kind of you know, that guy, James. Do you even know him? He's who? All these stories. James James Vandert Johnson.
Starting point is 00:11:04 No, Beak. Maybe he was talking about Mikey Day, because you guys did so much together. I'm sure James confuses me and Mikey all the time. Confuses you like crazy. And I got a confusion. Oh, where do we go with Trump? I mean, how do we? What's the next question? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Who's going to play him? I mean, well, Jag will. I call him Jag, the Jagger Badger, because Jag is for James Austin Johnson. J-A-J, Jag, Jagger. That's better. James Austin Johnson is a lot of work. It sounds like a Civil War general. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Well, I'm James Austin Johnson sounds like a Civil War general. I'm sorry, but I'm James Austin Johnson. I'm in charge of these who hear Confederals. Sorry. That's all I got. Confederals. So anyway, so did you do Tucker Carlson or was that someone else? Yeah. Is it a re-recording by the way? Is this all just sort of the banter beforehand? Good. Okay. No, no, this is real that I did else. Yeah, okay. Is it a rerecording by the way? Is this all just sort of? beforehand good We're always always recording productions and with no with complete chaos I'm having a lot of fun so far so far so am I I like that boat you have a handheld Allah being up on stage and spade you're just sitting there with the thing on a crane.
Starting point is 00:12:27 We're a lot like the Kelsey Brothers podcast. I'm broadcasting from a hotel in New York City right now. Are you? Which one, what room number? He's like a reporter on the scene and I am just a lazy podcast. They don't have room numbers, but they have names for the different suites. This is called You'll Never Get Out of Here Alive. And good night.
Starting point is 00:12:52 So that's anyway, I'm saying it's a little scary. But Spade, do you always have a Joe Joe dirt merch? Just perked. I don't always. You know, for the for the people at home that aren't, that's just not on video, I have a Joe Dirt hat in the background, but I do have merch and that's a hat from when I, that was my crew present on the actual movie.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And so I don't make that one, even though I like that one a lot. Do you mind turning it around just for this interview? Well, because no one can see it, but does it hurt your eyes a little bit? No, it's just too distracting. By the way, that movie is timeless, if I may say. It's very, very funny. I discovered it very late.
Starting point is 00:13:44 We went upstate one time and the place had a DVD collection, including Joe Dirk. My wife and I watched it. I had never seen it. I don't know how I didn't discover it when it came out. I imagine I'm not alone in that. But I saw it years later and it was very, very funny. I don't know if you know that.
Starting point is 00:14:03 No, I appreciate it. Which brings me to something else I want to ask you that is sort of off the mark. I hope you don't get offended by this. I was reading this interview. Dana, you can chime in on this. Reading an interview with, and Vulture with you, right? And sometimes- There was a big article. Yeah, there's an article about you.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So sometimes reporters- That was my tell-all. either to be funny or to be whatever, sometimes feel like to me they inch across the line where I don't like it. And 90% of the time I don't say anything. But like when they say, like, hey, Joe Dirt, you know what movie I actually like?
Starting point is 00:14:41 You know, those kinds of questions where it bothers you. This one, which what you said was perfectly fine. I appreciate you actually watching it, honestly. That's not what I mean. I mean, I'm reading this and it says, you were in The Bear, and I was hoping you'd have a bigger role by season two, but they got you out of there pretty quick.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I mean, I had to be like, hey, go fuck yourself, dude. That was crazy. I read, he was in The Bear, and then I've That was crazy. I read it. He was in The Bear. And then I've mentioned it to people. He's great. Great in The Bear. But yeah, she did put a tilt on that. Like it was a sad thing.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And yeah, but you're working. You're working all over the place, as far as I can tell. I know. It's just such a weird way to put it. You're like, hey, I did a great. You said I was doing meth. How long was I going to last? Yeah. Yeah, your character's doing meth,
Starting point is 00:15:26 but it's like, come on. Anyway, that's kind of, that just reminded me of interviews where you get caught off guard and you're trying to be nice, then you go, what is going on? Are they trying to be funny? Are they trying to be cute?
Starting point is 00:15:37 Are they trying to be cool? Yeah, no, I was- And you're not supposed to fight back. No, you're not. And I hope I was just letting you know, even though I discovered it late, Joe Dirt is a- No, you're not. And I hope I did. I was just letting you know, even though I discovered it late, Joe Dirt is a yuck a minute. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Can I ask about this? Go ahead. Wait, Dana, what were you gonna say? No, I was gonna say the other way people do it. I liked it. Yeah. Yeah. Or how did you like that movie?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Did you think it was operating in all cylinders, David? Yeah. All right. I liked it was operating in all cylinders, David? Yeah. All right. You liked it, but am I alone in that? Wait, Spade, what is, are you growing the beard out for something? It's for a movie I'm writing. No, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:16:19 See, Alex, you have a great beard because it goes under here and defines your jaw. Yeah, thank God, right? That's the way you do it. Mine is a way to look even older. But I feel like the beard, like Dana said, first of all, the truth is I got one compliment on it and I never went back because I have zero when I don't have it. So I have one compliment with it.
Starting point is 00:16:43 So I said, okay, even though it's mostly gray now, the salt is taking over the pepper. So now I've got, you can kind of shape it so you look a little more better, because as every article says, if I ever date anyone, it's like, beauty and the beast. Look at this monster. I'm like, god damn.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Think you could ever say that about a girl? Like, this great looking guy is with this horribly ugly egg. Yeah, we gotta bring stuff. Alex looks fresh face when I look at it, but we're watching him. Not a wrinkle. He's in his prime, I don't know, I'll peg you with,
Starting point is 00:17:18 I'm gonna say 32? 24. 28. You're both right, you're both right. So 28, 32. So you're 59. Good, yes. I'm 42. But you know, I
Starting point is 00:17:35 moisturize very, I put lotion on eight times a day. So that's how this happens. Hey, not that I don't wanna just talk about my face the whole time, which I do, but can I bring up another sort of random, because I mean, this is the moneymaker, let's be honest. Anything, anything. Dana, this is a connection that we have that you would have no reason to know about. I think I do know.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Yeah. Well, if you do. Chevy Chase, the baseball? No. Chevy Chase, the baseball? I think I do know. Yeah. Well, if you do. Chevy Chase, the baseball? No. Chevy Chase, the baseball? Bill Murray? No, Bill Murray, the baseball.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Oh, that's another, no, I bet that's- Okay. That's one of my favorite SNL memories and one of the most kind of burned in my soul memories from my whole time there, which I, I'm happy to get into my God, but this goes even further back and there's truly, I think no way you would know about this. Let me see. When I was going into my senior year of college, I lived with my sister in Mill Valley, California, California and I know it well. I worked at a restaurant called.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Rack Cascade, which Cascade, which was only there for a year or two, but I worked there for a summer, but it was in the downtown. Yep, yep. Yep. OK. And one time I like got to work and I think I've been called into like sub because somebody had to go. But anyway, you you were already your your like family was at your brothers were there, I think. And so maybe we were visiting.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah, that may be. And they were like, hey, Dana, Dana Carvey's here. And I was like, and I it truly well, I mean, as you can imagine, it's a big deal. It's a big deal. And also they kind of knew I was like young comedy dweeb, like probably idolize this guy. They happen to be right in that case. And so I was like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And so basically, like from across the restaurant, I was just like, oh, my God, there he is. There he is. There he is. And then and apparently you were only there for like the last like little bit. You like showed up for dessert, picked up only there for the last little bit. You showed up for dessert, picked up the tab for the whole table and then left. I was just like, what a classy guy. Wow. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I want to die. Again, there's no connection other than I saw you 20 years ago in a restaurant. But it was one of the first times I ever saw a celebrity or an idol of mine. Believe me, I got a lot of cool stories like that. First of all, it's flattering. I saw Michael Landon once in a restaurant when I was a little kid and I couldn't stop. He's from Bonanza and Little House on the Ferry. So I totally get that.
Starting point is 00:20:25 It's just, and now you have people go, hey, you're the Saturday Night Live guy, Alex Moffitt, man. I love that, you know, you do that Trump brother so good. So you're getting it. So it's all surreal that now we're on Zoom together as peers, as co-SNL alums, you know? We are, yeah. But that was my, I think literally the first time I saw like a member,
Starting point is 00:20:50 like an alum from the show, let alone one who I grew up watching. And I literally was sort of like frozen in the corner of Cascade Restaurant in Mill Valley, just being like, there he is. And I creepishly observed you for two minutes, pick up the check for your whole family. Then was like, someday I'm gonna be sitting
Starting point is 00:21:11 on my little throne here, chatting with those two goons. I keep a casual diary on my phone. Do you know about what, was it in the summertime? June of 92 or something? I keep a couch. Alex, were you a waiter? You were a waiter at Cascades. Hold on, let me just get that.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Cascades is going off. Cascades, waiter, summertime with vacation. Summer of 2004. Yeah, okay, let me see. Yeah, it checks out. Went to Casc it to my brother, weirdo kept staring at me, got out, paid the check and got away.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Straight out of your diary? Yeah, that must have been a different... Okay, then there was another guy there because there's no way. Alex, you're going to get those calls where it's like, hey, I thought you were coming, so can you at least come and pay? You're not coming. Dana, it's the season to shop new styles, electronics,
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Starting point is 00:23:19 played along the whole cascade of people played, oh, you switched that have played Biden. I'm now going in to play Biden. It's like, I asked them, I asked Steve Higgins, Lawrence the one who asked me, and I said, well, does Mikey Day, who's the latest, latest, does he still wanna do Biden? Cause I can't go, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:42 he said Mikey would be relieved. I hope that's true. But I think love it. Lauren asked me in June before the debate problem with Biden. You'll come in. It's just, you know, it's in Ottoman, New York. It's four shows and you'll be like, really, really have fun. And then he got kicked out or he left like George Washington. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And you'll come in as a ghost. You'll be places. Dr. Dr. Dr. He won't let go. So he wants you to go in there. Pop up and do it. So what on the continuum of Biden, where were you? You're like, who did it before you and who did it after you?
Starting point is 00:24:22 Well, on the continuum, I'm guessing I hold the record for quickest tenure, which I think was probably just putting America out of their misery. I did it for, there were two appearances. Before me was a young upstart named Jim Carey. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So this was after he did his, that was like, you know, the whole fall. Yeah. I guess, yeah, during that election. And that was, I believe, always meant to be sort of a temporary thing. And then I had screen tested before they went with Mr. Kerry. So I had started showing. As Biden. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:09 As Biden, okay. Yeah. So then, and then I was playing golf. It was like close to Thanksgiving and I was out there teeing it up and I got a phone call from a friend of mine who works there, it was like, hey, just a heads up. I think Lauren's going to be calling you.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And I think they're going to give you Biden. And I was like, cool, that's great. And then sure enough, the next day he brought me in and yeah, similar conversation. Right. You'll do Biden. Well, I think that there's a trajectory. Pick up, it's Lauren.
Starting point is 00:25:44 This is a little process for the audience. There's a trajectory, like someone gets elected. Like we all knew Joe Biden, but then he's elected president. Now we're really in the primaries, we're really seeing how he talks and what, and then it takes a while for the audience to recognize the hooks.
Starting point is 00:26:00 So early in, I only had, my father lost his job, no joke. Those was his early kind of manifestations. And then for me, I don't know if you did it before after Afghanistan, because the press conference there was the first time I saw him get angry and it was funny. It was always gonna be hard, that guy. So there may not have been, there was no hooks after that. I kind of gave up on it.
Starting point is 00:26:26 I did it on Colbert and I go, it's so soft and whispery. Father lost his job, no joke. That's all I had until he, yeah, there you go. All right. My God, we should have fun. Come on, what are we doing? What are we doing? My God, let's get back to the business of having fun for my God.
Starting point is 00:26:46 It was like, please, what are we doing here? But they let you do it like that. Did they let you extend? Yeah, more or less. I I guess that that time was kind of a blur. Lotta, I was very deep into, that was my bourbon phase. I'm just kidding. It was just so quick.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I did, my God. When I screen tested with him, it was more like he was constantly hitting on Jenna, the stage manager, which I think maybe had had, you know, we done more of him. Maybe we would have gotten to him being the more like hair sniffy dude. Right. That's a funny hook. But the yeah, I guess my thing was like thinking he was like Joe Cool, you know, but then clearly like
Starting point is 00:27:45 not clocking the fact that he's just slightly out of touch. You know what I mean? So that was kind of more of the hook if I had one. Yeah, whatever the hook was, it was a hard pass from the higher ups of the ship. Well, also, when I did it for a while, when I did Colbert, there was just a sense of everyone was exhausted, whatever your political stripe from the Trump. And then when Biden came in, it was like, he's a moderate Democrat, reach across the aisle, just going to quiet everything down.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And when I was doing Colbert remotely and I'd go for a certain kind of joke, the audience would just sort of get quiet. The audience wasn't ready. They don't want to go there. Right away. You know, so. Yeah, no, that's, that's true. And that I think is another thing that was going on at the time was like, I don't know that people wanted to, everyone was exhausted. Like you said, it was just like, okay, well, what's the what's the joke about this guy? Also, let's not joke about him because he just saved us from the, you know, collapse of democracy or whatever is going through people's minds. You know, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:53 That was a random time. Not ready in New York. They're not going to poke him his heart. Right. And then the next. And then, like I said, I think in that, you know, vulture interview that you guys mentioned, they wisely realized that they had hired a guy who is one of the most insanely gifted impressionists of all time in Mr. Judge himself. They were like, oh, this guy can make Biden sing. And so it is, believe me, all good because I really,
Starting point is 00:29:27 James' Biden tickles me, his Trump absolutely tickles me. So I was between, my era was between Kerry and Johnson was my Biden administration. Okay, I got it. So it made sense because his Trump is like jazz, you know, it's remarkably detailed. And he told me for himself, I guess it's okay to say he just made it a cause celeb for himself to try to really master a Biden for himself. And so he's been working on but there's a lot of hooks there. A cause celeb.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I like how you called it a cause celeb, which normally, if I'm not mistaken, is reserved for an actual charitable cause that one lends one celeb too. But in this case, his cause was too. Merv Griffin said that to Jacques Aucobour in 1966. And I've never forgot it. And I use it. I don't even know what it means. Merv Griffin.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Oh, come on, you know what it means. So anyway, so you did that, which was sort of that pre-audience accepting, and James had told me that just this summer, once, and for his audience, as a standup, once Biden was no longer running, the crowd was emancipated and laughing really hard. So it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:30:46 That's probably true, yeah. Yeah, because they're not worried about helping Trump. Right. Yeah, so. Dana, another thing that I stole from you is, when you, my first season, and when you came back to do Church Lady, an upgrade, My first season, when you came back to do Church Lady,
Starting point is 00:31:10 an upgrade, I just happened to be walking by in the hallway and somebody asked you how it went after dress and you said something like, well, at least I didn't peek at dress. And I always stole that, was just like, and like, at least I didn't pick a dress. Like if something went kind of like a little dicey address, like, well, there's no way that was the peak. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:33 This could be a good thing you say to the writers. This is good because you don't, and it is somewhat true. I mean, I felt like I'd peek at read through in the early days because I was trying so hard and then maybe I'd peek Friday night trying to entertain the crew or I'd peek at read through in the early days because I was trying so hard. And then maybe I'd peek Friday night trying to entertain the crew or I'd peek at dress because I was pushing. And after a little time there,
Starting point is 00:31:52 I was able to kind of just do it 85%. Because you want what's going through your head during the air show is this is the best it's ever gone. Yeah. That's all. Yeah, rather than like, huh, they left harder a few hours ago. Dress was so much better.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Oh, now we're going down. There's that fine line between, yeah, you wanna do good enough at dress where it makes the show. You don't wanna save it so much that it gets cut and you go, oh, fuck. Right, it's a fine line. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Fine line. So of your kind of like your poppy hits, which the one you had the most fun doing, was it the film reviewer seemed really fun because you're just, you're locked in rhythmically. You've got all the hooks and change-ups and, I don't know if people are familiar with this one, but tell us about that.
Starting point is 00:32:45 What did you do it before? Is it now or what did I owe? I owe that's right. I owe. What does I owe stand for? Improv Olympics. Oh, Improv Olympics. Dumb dumb.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I think Spade's been on my Wikipedia. Was that a trunk piece? Was that a trunk piece that you brought to the show with a trunk trunk? You know, a trunk piece that you brought to the show? A trunk piece? Trunk piece. A trunk piece. Isn't that a... You pull out when you need it.
Starting point is 00:33:11 It goes with Kostylev. Motivational speaker was a trunk piece. Yeah. How did you write it during the show? That one was during the show. No. Someone just did a thumbs down. Have you seen it? No, that's something that pops up our computers like sometimes
Starting point is 00:33:30 Will come we never put it. I don't know. Yeah, exactly I think it it could happen Dana can do confetti sometimes sometimes right now. It's not because this Freaking can't get a real one. Let me see. No Right above the Joe Dirt Hat. A thumbs down. That's funny. Yeah. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Which we've already covered was actually very funny. You're in the clear on that. We're in the clear. Was not a trunk piece. I like that expression, which is like something I brought along when I got there. No. That always killed. You know, no, no. You know, it's funny is actually speaking of trunk pieces, another I'm just going to keep referencing. We love it.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Ways that Dana, you came up in either conversation or my waitering life. In my in my me, I don't think I've ever actually told anybody publicly about my meeting with Lorne before you get hired and he referenced you in that meeting because he said something to me to the effect of like, the gist was like, we don't really know what we're getting with you because you're not a known entity. And I was sort of like, yeah, I hear you. And he was like, like with Dana, for example, we knew what we were, he had an act, he was established. We knew what we were getting. And I was like, yeah, I get that.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Well, he also does Church Lady in his act. Right. But all of it was surreal. I had no idea how it was gonna go. I really, really thought that I was gonna, me and Phil, the show was only had an eight show pickup. By Christmas, it was gonna get canceled for the only time. Now they're doing a documentary about 85 and 86,
Starting point is 00:35:16 because there's so many documentaries for the 50th. But I didn't realize that, there was no groundlings in San Francisco, so I was doing standup and in rowdy bars, you know, I would have a rough time because I was kind of doing little characters and impressions, but I didn't know it would go as well as it did, you know, but it was,
Starting point is 00:35:37 I was a great feeling when I said, well, isn't that special? And I got a laugh just like in the clubs. I was like, okay, I don't worry. But anyway. You were already, okay, I don't worry. But anyway. You were already, you were like touring, right? I mean. I was doing a lot of clubs. I did a lot of shitty, weird things they offered me
Starting point is 00:35:52 because Hollywood wanted to hire me just as a nice guy. You know, I did a movie with Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas, just a nice straight man. I did Blue Thunder with James Ferrantino as the straight man. I did one of the boys with Mickey Rooney and Nathan Lane. But then I kind of said to hell with it. I'm probably not going to make it. So I just did a lot of clubs for two years, a lot. And that's where it all, it was helpful.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yeah, you got 10,000 hours. Also, the chopping broccoli was one of the first laughs I ever remember getting in my life was just imitating chopping broccoli to my parents and sisters and then being like, look at this precocious little ham thing and chopping like 12, 11. Did you try to actually play it? No, no, I just like, my lady, she went downtown as like a five year old. She bought some broccoli. When I hear other people do it, it makes me laugh. But as I was doing it, I'm still mystified
Starting point is 00:37:05 by how long people have, it may be the thing I'm referenced to most in many ways. I don't know what it is about it. You know, jump off a ledge. It's completely inane. Yeah, it's from another planet. It's so out there. Here's the way I put it.
Starting point is 00:37:20 It's so dumb and stupid, Dana. That's how people say it. That's their backhand and compliment. It's not funny at all, so it's funny. Some people, well, someone told me, it's the commitment. Everyone hates it, I love it. What it's about, it being so precious. But you probably didn't know this,
Starting point is 00:37:42 I'm gonna talk about myself. But I kept going with that character, we gave him a name, Derek Stevens, and I wrote an idea that the record company asked him, says he has to, you know, they have to kill him because they'll get more record sales. And they have a chart where it's like Jim Morrison's sales went up and Jimi Hendrix.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And so, and that laid there, you know, that was like. No. Yeah, it was a funny conceptual idea. Phil Hartman, the late great was playing the guy, but so, well, I'm very flattered about that. So, Tim, I want to talk about more. What other things did you like? Sorry. Funny, you should ask.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Opportunity Knocks, I saw in theaters eating Milk Duds with my family when it came out. Do you remember doing that movie? Yeah, I do. It was an interesting experience. Was that your first big movie out of Esno? First big movie?
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah, it was a little difficult, you know, because they did not want to let me write it with them or anything. So then the movie came out and it was unreleasable. What does that mean? The worst turn. The ratings were so low in the theater, they go, it's unreleasable. It has to go straight to the video.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Then they asked me, you got any ideas? So I just came up with this silly thing of Born to be Wild where he jumps on the stage and does that. So we put that in and a couple other little things and then it got released. It didn't make that much. It's no Joe Dirt. Joe Dirt's a great comedy. We all have our turkeys. That's another going back to the seventies or something. Fucking jive. But kids like it. It was fanciful and silly. But what can we...
Starting point is 00:39:28 I love that. Well, you're my favorite guest. Not because of just saying everything you love about my entire career. I just... You're just as a person, I like you. The feeling is mutual, but I truly, I don't mean to keep just like diving into, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:46 carby lore, but I, it goes, it runs pretty deep. So I'm just making sure that you know that. I would always love to hear that, you know, because I, I, and on this show, people sometimes, I do like to give people compliments because I think most creative people have an inner critic of, eh, eh, you know, or you're the other way like, hey, have you seen it? Bulletproof. Yeah. Alex, I have to agree with you that it's not crazy you say this stuff. I watched Dana, he's not much older than me, but I watched him. He was breaking obviously before anything happened with me. And so I watched that and fucking chopping broccoli. It's such, and everyone thinks it's like this undiscovered,
Starting point is 00:40:29 but everyone seems to love, if they know comedy. And it's so good. I mean, I love Hans and Franz, I like all this stuff, but that's way, way, way up there. So you're not crazy. And it's, especially if you're on SNL and you do characters, I didn't do as many characters
Starting point is 00:40:45 as most people so I was more in amazement of like I can't do all this shit you know. I'd watch all the guys out there I'm like this is just not even possible. I hear you but you also like you you carved out your own slice of that show and actually here's another fun fact. I went after the first time. The character you mentioned early on that I did, guy who just bought a boat. I wrote that with a really great writer named Anna Dresden. We started together at SNL, she became head writer.
Starting point is 00:41:17 But anyway, she was under the bleachers the first time I did that. It went well the first time I did that and it went well the first time I did it. And apparently Lorne turned to Anna and said, it's very spade. So I always took that and I remember at the time being like, yes, I will take it. Yeah, it's very spade. It's funny, I did a character called receptionist where I was just being like really aloof to people.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Like, oh, and you are, and this is regarding. And then people would be like, who's that gay character you play? And I'm like, I don't think it's gay. And they're like, no, you're gay and it's gay. And the show, and every sketch you're in is a gay person. I'm like, no, no, no. So I had to deal with that for a while.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Why would your mom say that? Because she's like anti, no, she thought I was like coming out. But it was, because it's somewhat feminine, some of those. You know what I mean? I hear you. That one for me was a little like. And this is regarding. Yeah, it's just tricky right now. When I look back, I go, oh, I see you. That one for me was a little like. And this is regarding. Yeah, it's just tricky right now.
Starting point is 00:42:25 When I look back, I go, oh, I see it. Yeah, it's just, it's just langorious. It's langorious. It's not any sexual orientation. It's just. Right, right. Now, of course. You're like this. Of course, I know what langorious means,
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Starting point is 00:45:01 I love when the premise is, see, if you didn't't have guy who owns a boat or a man who owns a boat, what is the title? Guy who drove a boat? I think it's, yeah, all three of those. All three of those. Guy who saw a boat, yeah. I think that really just kind of like,
Starting point is 00:45:16 why waste time, you get right, everyone, you know what I mean? It just, I love the presentation of that. I did Germans Who Say Nice Things with Steve Carell once. And it just, it could have worked without it, but it just, no. Right. This is exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:45:31 This is what you're getting. And obviously it's a pretentious kind of prick. And you know, it was. And that was all Anna Drezen. She, yeah, she called it called it that title, which made me laugh when she said it. And I was like, yeah, you know, that's his name, of course. And then she also was the one who pitched.
Starting point is 00:45:53 We had been like writing the character and then even kind of like late in the game, she she was like, well, and what if he just like says he has a horrible dick? And I was like, yeah. The thing that made the bit actually work, you know, was like him saying his subtext or whatever. And that was all Anna. So thank God for good writers. Well, we talked about this last week, just this idea of almost, it's a rodeo aspect where you're in the shoot and you're gonna wheel out and pivot to 15 million people or whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And you're waiting and they're getting laughs and maybe some other cast member killed and you're still in the shoot and you got your stuff, rolling the car. I mean, it's a very, so you went out there and landed it. And so the writer, she probably gave you a big hug because all of her stuff killed and you have to do it with timing and talent.
Starting point is 00:46:54 So it was like a hand in a glove, the two of us writing this. And then a couple of guys who write pretty much exclusively for update, Pete Scheltz and Josh Patton, both then, after the first few times we did that bit, they started just texting us really, really gross funny dick jokes. We were like, all right, you're in.
Starting point is 00:47:18 You want to write this with us? So then those two guys jumped on board. By the end, it was sort of a four-headed beast where we would just text each other the dumbest stuff we could. But yeah, I think- I read when you joined, I didn't mean to cut you off there.
Starting point is 00:47:34 When you joined, I think your, was it your first host with Chappelle or was you just got to sit in the room with Chappelle, which would have sort of blown away most people? I think it was like my fourth or fifth show. So first year, yeah. But that's like that one of the, you know, arguably best comic out there, arguably. There's a lot of really good ones. But to just, I remember being there and they just have the host walk in your office and you couldn't believe it. And especially if it's like a funny, but it's kind
Starting point is 00:48:02 of in your world, like same age. like I would have someone that was 60, five come in, I was, you know, 25. So it was a little different, but when you have someone that's like out there that you know, that's cool, it's such a weird thing that he's like, he doesn't know anything. So he just thinks you're might be the best writer there. Right? So he's just like, Hey, what are you thinking?
Starting point is 00:48:22 And you're like getting nervous going, what, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. What? Yeah. You know, and you're trying to Alex, I want to ask you a question because we talked about this before, but you're on 8H and there's a host and then someone will say, you know, I don't know, uh, who would be, uh, Taylor Swift is down there if you want to say hello. And you're kind of walking and the door opens and you're meeting three-dimensionally this thing. And I'll Charlton Heston to for example like you could go meet Charlton Heston the guy just so great to see he's waiting to be. They're not going to tackle you. What were your I just want to for a second because I the experiential that's another pretty good
Starting point is 00:49:01 anguarius experiential thing of going into 8H, going to see Lor Michael's, all this stuff is so established and now you're a cast member and you're on that show. And what were some of your, what was your mind blowing moments where you, like I walked through 8H today and I got very sort of, I just felt weird. I hear you.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Yeah. It's just weird. I hear you. It's just weird. I saw pictures and I was like, I needed to get out of there. Something's wrong. Yeah. There are pictures all over the place of you as like the head wound Harry guy. Did you happen to see those?
Starting point is 00:49:39 Another monster. It was a big one. I did not write that one. I wrote that one. The dog, and I'm not sure. Where's the star? The dog was a star because. I did not write that one. I wrote that one. The dog and I'm not sure it's the star. The dog was a star because they added more food. But I did hold the wig on, you know, because I knew if the wig flew off, I knew it was a good enough sketch that let's not make it about that. So I was really fighting. So we get on your face. Well, to
Starting point is 00:50:03 answer your question, for some reason, the first thing that pops to mind is that even seeing 8H, I knew would kind of be kind of a big moment, because again, I kind of revered the show, revered the job. So the first time I was sort of in the running for it, which was a few years before I actually ended up getting hired, I had auditioned at Space in Chicago, and then they flew me there for some meetings.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Then one of the assistants or something was walking me around. They're walking me from the offices on 17 or taking me down to Higgins' office, which was several in some dungeon under the building. But we had to go through eight for some reason. They were like, ''Hey, we're walking by the studio. Do you want to see it?'' In my mind, I remember going like, ''Actually, I'm good. Thank you.''
Starting point is 00:51:02 Because I didn't want to just look at it as a tourist. You know what I mean? I wanted to have a reason to be in there. Even though I hadn't been invited to screen test, and so I just wanted to save it for a time when I was actually being invited to perform in there as opposed to just look at it as a fan, if that makes sense. Yeah, interesting. So then the first time I ever set foot in that studio was to screen test four years later. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Yeah. Chris Kelly, one of the stage managers, was he there with either of you guys? Don't think so. Maybe when I did the guest stuff, you know, sometimes I do a cameo or something, but. Yeah. Yeah. So great guy. He kind of, you know, walks you into the studio,
Starting point is 00:51:54 kind of just like patting your head like a nervous dog, you know. And then Jenna, who is his like counterpart, co-studio manager, they both babysit all these young, nervous people about to screen test. Anyway, the first time I saw the studio was like walking out there to go and do my screen test. But yeah, what a wild thing.
Starting point is 00:52:24 The place definitely has a very surreal, sweet little corner of my heart. I love it so much. It took you three auditions to get to show over three years or something like that? I mean, it took you a while to get on. Took me 34 years, all told. But yeah, so I auditioned in 2013 for like a bunch of in Chicago twice that year. The following year, sent in a tape and heard nothing.
Starting point is 00:52:59 And the following year auditioned in L.A. at Iowa West Spade. Oh, oh. And they are, Eyo. Eyo. Gentlemen, join us. With that doof as Sheriff Sherman, was she on one of you? I am.
Starting point is 00:53:13 That doof. No, she, that was the following year. That nutball, that beautiful nutball. That kookaloka. Put her in a rubber room. Yeah, for real. In a straight jacket. How long has she been on?
Starting point is 00:53:28 Covered in macrame flowers. Put her in a fucking bird cage. No, but that year in IOS, they actually hired the guy who went on before me, which was John Rudnitsky, and super duper funny, incredibly talented guy. And so then the following year is when I auditioned in Chicago again, and then that year finally got
Starting point is 00:53:54 to screen test, blah, blah, blah. So all told, I think I did like six auditions over the course of four summers. What a beating. Damn, and then you finally get it. And who came in with you? Melissa, right? Or Melissa V and Mikey Day moved from.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Just lowly writer to a cast the year. Oh yeah. Melissa V, Mikey D. That's pretty big. It wasn't until later, right? No, I know. No, I'm allergic to, I'll explain later. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:54:29 So you get on and you did, how long, three years? Six, thank you. Six years, just twice that. 36. Many years. More than half a decade. You did five shows? No, I did six years.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Six years might be the average. I did six. That's 120 shows basically or more. I don't know if some years they go over 20. That sounds about right. It's a nice good run. Wait, so Spin, you did six? Dana, how many were you on there?
Starting point is 00:54:59 I think I was seven. 12. 12. No, I mean, I never, if you know, you don't, that was such a great place for me to be, you know, and you, when you step off of it, and I had so much stuff coming at me, but you step off of it and then you're like,
Starting point is 00:55:16 oh, you're kind of never gonna do sketch comedy live again, unless you guest hosts, you know? There's not another Saturday Night Live. There's no Fridays, remember Fridays from the early 80s? There's no in living color. I mean, SNL is just the little engine, or the big engine that can, not the little engine that could.
Starting point is 00:55:36 So you're- It's the big engine that did and still does and can. Yes. Well, you're on Bad Monkey now, we didn't even talk about that. Before we get you out of here. Like Bad Monkey is, it's so different. It must be because I remember when I left SNL, there's just nothing like it as far as
Starting point is 00:55:54 excitement level. I mean, even the doing takes and doing movies, it's all fun, but it builds up to when it comes out. It's, it's fun and nervous when you do it, but it's not that crazy nerves. True. Was there a question in there? No it, but it's not that crazy nerves. True. Was there a question in there? No, I'm trying to see if you agree. Well, I'm just observing that you've hit the ground running after SNL. It seems like you're
Starting point is 00:56:14 in demand as an actor, comedic actor, whatever you want to call it. So it's nice. I mean, that's got well-received show, Vince Vaughn. It's a blast. It's cool. Yeah. That show, Vince Vaughn. It's a blast. It's cool. Yeah, that show is great. And then, I mean, as far as the, yeah, there's no other way to be in front of, like you said, 15 million people shooting out of a rodeo gate. I don't think there's a lot of shows out there that provide that level of excitement. But, you know But doing theater,
Starting point is 00:56:46 I don't think there are any theaters that could squeeze 15 mil into them, but doing a play, doing a musical. Yeah. You did one recently, right? Last year and broadway? Yeah. Did a play last summer, which was a blast, The Cottage. Then now I'm doing a musical. You guys should come.
Starting point is 00:57:09 What? Yes. Whoa, Spade can dance. How, my baby? What are your qualifications? What are you, the next Liza Minnelli or something up here? What makes Alex Moffat a musical star all of a sudden? You know, the Trump twin guy, all right? What's on your curriculum, V-Tag, that's applicable to the live musical game?
Starting point is 00:57:35 I got some old tap shoes from Red Button you can borrow. So what are you going to do in the musical? Are you going to sing and dance, sing? All of it. What what are you gonna do in the music? Are you gonna sing and dance, sing? What are you gonna do? All of it, all of it. And my god, the voice of a nightingale. Oh yeah. Yeah, I could tell just by you talking.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Is it a Western musical? Is it, well I'm gonna shoot up this town. Hey, here comes the moon. Or is it a romance or is it a remake of a musical? Is it? No, it's a brand new. It's an original. It's an original called Big Get. It's perking up. He went from yawning to not. We count as Johns. I've counted five so far. Okay, six. No, but you guys do that.
Starting point is 00:58:28 And instead of saying original, you say ridge. Ridge. You guys have that in common. So anyway, it's not out yet, but you sing and dance as well. Did you ever sing and dance on SNL? Once or twice, yeah. Not to any great fanfare, but yeah, I can kind of,
Starting point is 00:58:45 I can do a little bit of each enough that they allowed me to, you know, well enough to do it in comedic settings, which I think is sort of my purpose in this too, is I'm not blowing anybody's hair back with my voice of an angel, but you know, I can move my body a little bit. So it's more like talky Broadway Broadway singing like I know what I want. Yes. And I know what you want, but I'm telling you, I'm in town tonight.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Is that sounds fun? How do you get an advanced copy of my song? I just see you know what I want. I'm telling you, I'm in town tonight. And I like push, say they're like, don't ad lib. No, no, it's not. Keep it short Moffat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Was that literally a lyric or you're just doing the fake lyric? No, no, I'm just, I loved the song that you made up. Alex, were you saying that- I'm in town. A play does kind of mimic the crazy energy of SNL. It is scary. A play is very scary. So that wakes you up. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Oh, yeah. I stand up. It's kind of the same thing. Like totally. Live crowds. Exactly. Yeah, live crowds are always going to be scary. Totally. Yeah. Do you guys are you the types who, like when you're going out, about to go out and do standup, do you still feel like the butterflies in the basket? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I definitely do. Yeah, definitely. Dana? Yeah, yeah. Like in a good way, right? Like, yeah. Well, it's good because in the olden days, it's like here, you know, on a cowboy bar, here comes Dana, you know, what? Fuck you, you know, they don't know who you are.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Now it's like, fasten your comedy safety belts, because this man brings it every time. Live, comedy right now. And so it's like, it's like NASCAR. You know him from this, this. You go to open mic, you have notes and they're like, he's here to, so that's the other pressure, but it's a good problem to have as they say.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Yeah. Yeah. It's a good buzz too when you get off. If it goes good, you feel best. Do you do a Lorne Michaels impression? Cause everyone does something. Not a good one. I don't have one to speak.
Starting point is 01:01:02 There's no such thing as good or bad. Everyone has a different, you know, different slight angle. You'll, we don't know you. You do the best, Lauren. Go ahead, Dana, give us some more. You'll find Alex is like a really, really good guy. And he did some great work for us.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And he's gonna have a long career. We had a moment, neither of us are gay, but there we looked anyway, it doesn't matter. Happened at Orso's one time. Orso's. I'm sorry. You know, what is it with Orso's? Because also in that, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Love it. I remember those cast dinners. Yeah, well it wasn't during our time, but in my, You know. I remember those cast dinners. Yeah. Well, it wasn't during our time, but in my, you know, I also, I guess somewhat. You did P.F. Chang's. Did it move? Yes. Yeah. In a secret room under the giant horse out front. P.F. Chang's humor for you. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 01:02:03 That's all I got. I know, but we now it's at some place in the theater district, but when I was, when I had my little meeting with him where he, you know, said like, essentially, you know, Dana, he also said... I heard it too. No, no, it's okay. And you know what? Hey, he ain't wrong.
Starting point is 01:02:22 I think it was more just like he was setting the table for a conversation like, hey, we don't know who the hell are you? I've never seen you before. So it was a valid thing. Because he also was like, it's an election year. It's going to be tough to get your, sometimes people spin out if it's their first year and it's an election year. I didn't really fight them on anything.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I was sort of like, yeah, I hear you. Like, I know. You're like, listen, I'm in. Just get me in that fucking building. It was like, I got Saturday Night Live. Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh. Yeah. But I, so then at the end, you know how he will like say,
Starting point is 01:02:59 ask if you have any questions for, I don't know if that was his thing when you guys met with him. Anything for me? Yeah, he was like, do you have any questions for me? I don't know if that was his thing when you guys met with him. Anything for me? Yeah, he was like, do you have any questions for me? And for whatever reason, the only thing I could think of was I just said, I was like, yeah, I've got my fiance in town with me
Starting point is 01:03:16 and we wanted to do a fun dinner tonight. Any recommendations? And so I asked him for a dinner recommendation, and she was like, oh, well, there's always Orso. So he was like, but, you know, one of the, my assistants could probably give you a list of recommendations, but I was like, no, no, no, of course Orso's, that's good, I'll go there.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I want it from you. Yeah, I want it from you. So we went to Orso's that night. And hey, the... Any stars? Well, let's... Can we hear about this? Because now you're married, right?
Starting point is 01:03:51 So apparently it was a good dinner. Yeah, cats out of the bag. It worked. Sorry. Sorry, hos hounds. This ol' ox is yoked. You should have proposed at Orso. Because then you... You signed on into your proposal. You're like... And then Lorne made me go at Orso, because then you, you, you, signed on into your proposal.
Starting point is 01:04:06 You're like, and then Lorne made me go to Orso. I should have proposed right then and there, but we were already engaged. So I guess we should have just eloped at Orso's that night. Propose again and put on Instagram. Yeah. I mean, Is she in the biz? She is. She's a, she's a brilliant actor.
Starting point is 01:04:23 We met at a Velveeta Cheese commercial audition in Chicago 12 years ago. That's the place. That's the place. Wow. Yeah. And who got it? Neither one of us and no one in fact. I think the script was so bad they chucked it out the window and never made the spot. They said the government just found out what's in Velveeta cheese and it's being shut down. So they're not gonna make it. It's half asbestos. There's no cheese.
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Starting point is 01:05:28 Sorry, non-stack order. I was talking to Lauren once and it was just about business, show business and how the machinations of it. And he said, no one likes to know how a hot dog gets made. I do. I saw a YouTube video on it. But the old days, you have YouTube. No, no, not in the old days. You have to accept my analogy. Yeah, I'm going to go.
Starting point is 01:05:54 OK, bye. You know, I'm going to go Oprah. What would you say to your younger self right now, who the first day of SNL? I'm just going, is it Oprah or is it maybe Barbara Walters? Either way, that was a really good Oprah impression. Did you ever get that impression? Yeah, really good. People! It's all I got.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Say to my younger self- You don't have to answer that. It's pretty corny. No, no. That's a good question. Well, here's a question. I guess I would tell myself, just make sure you try the tiramisu at Orsos. It's out of this world. But how did you two decide to pair up for this? Because Spade, correct me if I'm wrong, I've heard you tell the story about how you thought you
Starting point is 01:06:44 were going to get to play like Ross Perot'm wrong. I've heard you tell the story about how you thought you were going to get to play like Ross Perot or something because they asked you. They were like, but you were basically just a stand-in for Dana? Am I getting that right? Pretty close. Ross Perot came in the news. I didn't even know how the machinations worked at us now, but I hit up Smigel and said, hey, there's this new guy,
Starting point is 01:07:05 but they of course knew all this because I was just seeing it on like Meet the Press. I go, maybe this guy would be funny for me to play. And they're like, oh yeah, Dana's going to play. And I'm like, how many can Dana do? And so, but then this is how dumb I am, is that when it came up for like a special, right? Like a nighttime, prime time special. There was Clinton, Ross Perot, and George Bush. So I said, they said, can you come in and do Ross Perot? I was like, oh, fuck it. I thought, well, of course Dana can't,
Starting point is 01:07:35 but I was just standing for the wide shots with the whole fucking shit. For the wide shot, David had to put the wig on and go and- The ball cap. I remember it was the saddest I'd seen him. He's out there with the stuff on, and I go'm sorry man this is pretty bad you know then I tell Gervais my manager I might quit and he goes where are you gonna go who wants
Starting point is 01:07:53 the guy that was bad on this no and then quit I go Jesus Christ he's firm but he's fair, our manager. How about you? You've done a few things. I met David before, when he was out of high school in the Beechwood Canyon with Kevin Nealon. So we'd go back there and then we'd just all, he used to open for me, a great opener.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Would never go on too long, would come out in shorts and just kind of wander, put on a mic and a little prop and kind of lean on the stool. It's 3,000 seats in the round outdoors. What's, and I didn't know you could do stand up like that, but he would kill. Playing it under. Hey, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:08:37 What are you people doing here? I'm going out there dancing for my donuts. Hey, I'm drenched in sweat. David's like, what's up? So then when I had a place in LA, we started hanging out and stuff and then. Stay buddies. Yeah, so.
Starting point is 01:08:51 We're on the same page. We're on the same page. Anything left for Alex? We've pretty much covered literally everything. We just have a few moments left and is there anything else you'd like to say to your fans out there? 120 shows of Saturday Live.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Alex Moffat, one of the one of my favorite guests we've had on the wall. Because he kept mentioning every every bit from the Olympics. Lie on the wall. I just got that. Fly on a wall. They listen. Yeah, but thank you. Yeah, that's my Ed McMahon.
Starting point is 01:09:33 No, no, no, Phil Hartman. Speaking of. No, I love love both overlap with him. We did. I came in with Phil in 86 and then David came in in 90 and then Phil left with him. He wanted to go longer and David said, time to go. I got a whiff of what Phil was getting and I was like, ba-ba-wa. I was like, holy shit. And then I thought, well, if they're gonna give it to anybody, this is the guy. We called him the glue.
Starting point is 01:10:07 He was very important. Yeah, very important. Could do anything and was so talented, he kinda didn't, he was really into schematics of motorboat engines, Evan Rude. Hey, look at this, Evan Rude. We're just rehearsing and he was just a Renaissance design albums
Starting point is 01:10:25 and he could play guitar, blues guitar. He was just like, and he just would just sit there. He had his binder and he'd always intend things and he'd underline everything and they go, okay, go up. And then he'd be like, hello, I'm a crazy Frankenstein man or whatever, he just go do it. Truly could do it all. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Do it all, the glue, the glue. A nice guy that like on a Thursday would stop me and say, hey, I liked your update. Like if it didn't get on or something, he would stop and go, these jokes are funny or something. You know, just, and that's like a guy that's that good saying something, it just takes this thing out of it a little bit, you know, because you're already bummed out.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Yeah. You mean like on a, oh, like from the table read the day before. Like after read through it didn't get picked up. And then he's like, I liked it. And I thought that. That's sweet. So he was a sweet guy? Sweet guy, very sweet guy.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Oh yeah. Yeah, just unpretentious, no ego, just a great, you know. So who was your favorite cast member? We want a trend and who didn't you really like? Who did you hate? Who didn't I like? Let's start there now. Let's I mean, I'm a huge like of all time. What are my who are my favorite?
Starting point is 01:11:33 Or when you were there? Yeah. Oh, I was there. Well, my Mount Rushmore. Well, we can do all I seriously. I mean, Phil's up there, Eddie Murphy. Dana, I would put you on there, my friend. Thank you. That's nice. Dan Aykroyd, when I was coming through in college,
Starting point is 01:11:54 those guys were the Beatles basically. Yeah. Chevy, Danny. Johnny. I think whenever we mention or make a list, then later I regret that I forgot this person. Totally. Especially as you get into modern era.
Starting point is 01:12:10 You don't want to leave anybody out. No, I had an amazing group when I was there. Kate is, I think, one of the all-timers and just a sweetie pie, and a good friend, and one of the funniest people ever put on this earth. Absolutely. Keenan also could, like with,
Starting point is 01:12:30 even just like the slightest little look in his eye could just make me, like the clothes, I didn't break really much on the show, but Keenan could make me break. And I had several times of just like having to like pinch my leg or like bite the inside of my cheek because Keenan would just sort of give me a look knowing that he could level me. So he's one of the greats too. Yeah. And then Melissa is just so sweet. We had her on here. She's amazing. A brilliant ear, you know, just amazingly talented. Insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:05 And Mikey Day seems like an extremely nice guy. You can see why you two would be friends. He's one of the great mensches of all time. So I and I've said this before, but I mean, the fact that he was already very like savvy in the, you know, workings of the show, having been a writer for a few years and then kind of like took me under his wing in a way. savvy in the workings of the show, having been a writer for a few years,
Starting point is 01:13:26 and then took me under his wing in a way when I started there. Couldn't have been a nicer guy, couldn't have been a better situation for me to walk into where this guy who's brilliant and is also low-key one of the best sketch writers ever, looked out for me like an older bro when I got there. So I was very lucky for that. So yeah, all those, yeah, invaluable. Well, thank you, Alex.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Good Lord. Dana's gonna go do his SNL stuff now. Woo. Yeah, let's try to see what I can do. Get your facts straight, Jack. There it is. There it is. I'm excited for this. I did it at the border.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Come on, I'm a more transformed president. I did it at the border, the border there, the border, the border, the border. Can't believe it's not butter. There you go. It's gonna work. There you go. All right, see you Alex.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Yeah, that's great. Thank you buddy. Thanks guys, appreciate it. Be well. Thumbs up. Take care, have a good day. Enjoyed it. Thanks, Alex This has been a presentation of Odyssey. Please follow subscribe Leave a like a review all the stuff smash that button. Whatever it is wherever you get your podcasts
Starting point is 01:14:38 Fly on the Wall is executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade Jenna Weiss Berman of Odyssey and Heather Santoro the show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman

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