Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Ben Stiller & Christine Taylor!

Episode Date: August 27, 2026

Ben Stiller and Christine Taylor join David and Dana to chat about the Knicks, directing, Tropic Thunder, and failed medical procedures. They also get into Focker-In-Law, The Dink, and Christine’s podcast with David Lascher, Hey Dude… The 90s Called! Also,  getting ambushed by Tony Robbins on Leno, getting a scene cut from Happy Gilmore 2, and much more.

My father for years thought they were saying, hey, Jew, and he didn't like the Beatles. I've done only a few shoddy movies, but every time they were shoddy, the least smart guy on the set was the director. What do you want to know? What do you want to know, Dana Carvey? Ooh, look at me. I'm a funny guy with glasses. How do you get a voice like that? I don't know. It comes from down here. And you're doing all those fake ads up front, you know, white-ass, you know, ass.

you know, ass juice or whatever it was. And she goes, booty sweat. She said booty sweat. She goes, what am I watching? You both are eternally youthful, I believe. But like, but Dana, you do have always had like this, you know, Sprite.

Right back to Dana. It's really flirty. You're really flirting. Ben Stiller, Christine Taylor. Yeah. Two of our favorites. Two of our favorites. This was fun because we.

we had husband and wife together from Hawaii. Star Power. Yeah, Ben is an old buddy of ours, who's just a lot of fun. Did even a brief stint on us now. We talked about that when he was on. Yeah. But we haven't had a husband and wife, which is funny because she was really leading the charge. I know her from the old days barely.

I did something in the Brady Bunch movie. Yeah. We talk about that. Mm-hmm. And we all just, it's fun with four comedian-type people. We just all crack up the whole thing. And we're just laughing. We talk about movies a little bit and what makes the director, stuff like that.

Mostly we're just laughing. They, they, it was nice that they love my Mickey Rooney impression, and they kind of requested that early on. And they busted our balls and we all laughed. And Dana was on a hot streak, I will say. So keep in out for that. I was a little chatty, Kathy, because your, your mic was a little low and you were in darkness. So I just kept talking. I couldn't see whether your eyes got when you would start to talk.

I couldn't see it. So I am kind of overlapping David and interrupting David, but it wasn't my fault. I basically was shooting out of a U-Haul truck in the dark. So, but it was still fun. It was still a really fun one. It was fun. Yeah. Okay, here they are.

Ben Stiller, Christine Taylor. Hi, Dana. Nice to see you guys. Nice to see you. Christine, nice to, have we met before at a party or anything? I feel like we probably have met in passing. Yes. Well, nice to see you again. It's such a treat. And David Spade, I feel like I only ever see you at very big events that I'm rarely at ever. So I feel like you're always there and we're always like at the valet together. Well, you know, here's a place you won't remember where I didn't see you once is at a Brady Bunch sequel. Yeah, which you're in. But it wasn't with you, right? No.

It was with Shelly Long. Yeah. Were you in the hair salon? I was the haircutter. That's what I was. Yeah, yeah, I cut her hair. And it was, I remember this so vividly because. it was the day after black sheep opened and I think Barley wanted to go do something and I go,

I have to work all day. Now, that really places it in time though. Right. It would have been like 96, 97, something. I was going to say, and I was going to say, yeah, probably 95, 96, probably 96 for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's the joke is that. We didn't know each other.

We did not know each other. That is the joke. I did not know. But you keep trying to cut Carol Brady's hair into a different style, right? And it just keeps going back to her style, her mollity. Which I did like on her there. You were happy with it, exactly. And I don't know we're...

That's a story, Ben, but we're going to try. That was riveting. We're not to be that together is a good story. Hey, I just want it just for myself, can I just say congratulations to Ben about the Knicks because I was kind of, I adopted, look, I'm Golden State Warriors, so don't get mad. I kind of adopted the Spurs as underdogs, but then I was just blown away by the Knicks. And Jalen, what a freak in a good way. That's interesting that you saw the Spurs as underdogs because everybody, nobody saw them as underdogs, really?

I took the thesis that someone said a sports commentator that when they cried after they'd be, at Oklahoma, all that energy just left. I know there's more to it than that. I think. No, I actually think you're, I think you're right. It wasn't in the good column. I think they thought they got this now. Yes.

I think it was an experience and, you know. I saw before we got on this Zoom. So I left a lot of it, you know. Now, I had a strong opinion about this, Ben. I said I cried before the Zoom. Sorry, it wasn't the best. It was an unsec winner. I was trying to connect it to Wem Dombly or whatever his name.

Wembe. Him too. I like Dombly. I like Wembley. I like Wemdombie. I'm not good with... Brad and Christopher, I'm not good with names. I forget easily.

I have short-term memory issues. You know, I just want to ask you, have you guys seen The Odyssey just to break the eyes? No. Okay. Okay. Let's move... Maybe you have a question. I meant to see it.

He meant to see it when I was working in London and opened the weekend. The weekend it opened, I was in London, and I had a window, and then I missed it. And then since then I've been traveling and not near an IMAX screen because we're in Hawaii right now. What? Yeah. Why? Do you have a theater. Are you vacationing or working?

We're vacationing. Wow. Yeah. We have been coming here for years, and it's kind of like a second home to us. Interesting. Ben, my strong stance on the Knicks, just to end that, was I thought Timothy Chamoulet was like the Knicks's Laboooo-Maharanic. He was like, Shalwada, bum-bum. He was cute hanging around for no reason, and no one knew why he was there.

Okay. That's funny. You've got to put some respect on Shalamee as a Nick fan because he's been there. there since he was a kid he's for real listen i just write jokes i don't do any i know i know i've seen your shock i know what you do i own ben knows everything we're going to say beforehand where do you guys want to start do you want to start i want to start at hey do you i'll give you the dink a dink a dink i'll give you the fawker in law or we or i give you hey dude the 90s yeah i think we should start with hey do the 90s call all right let's do that because yeah

As a fellow podcaster, I know what that's like. Yes. And I, you got, I mean, listen, we are a very smallish podcast. So it is, I appreciate you guys, you know, bringing it up and talking. I mean, it's perfect because, hey, you'd both be great guests. Oh. As actors who came up in the, and comics who came up in the 90s. I know, it's a 90s show too, which is super popular now.

All the young people love the 90s. They love Grace Anatomy because no iPhones, just analog. It's really interesting. Right. I didn't know about, hey, dude, before I met Christine. And I don't know if you guys knew about it because we're like similar generation. Right. So, you know, it's people in their, what, 40s?

Yeah. Yes. If you were around 20s. Between five and 10 or 12 in the years 89 to 91. I don't want to do the math. But, yeah, people who would right now be in their mid-40s. It was a show on Nickelodeon. It was a scripted TV show on a dude ranch.

It was on a dude ranch. I looked it up. Yeah, it's a Western kind of comedy. I did a podcast called, Hey, Jude, but I'm from a different generation. But I like this better. Did you do one called Hey Jude? No, but I'm a Beatles fanatic. I'm a Beatles fanatic.

I'm from the first Eisenhower administration. I've told this story before, but my father for years thought they were saying, hey, Jew, and he didn't like the Beatles. Is that a joke? That's not a joke. Right now tonight, still in America coming out, right here in our shades of fabulous comedy team, taking it over the world. I've been doing Ed Sullivan a lot lately to myself. I love Ed Sullivan impressions. I don't know what.

Yeah. I know. I don't mind doing the old timies, and I will do requests. But let's talk about. You will, because Mickey Rooney, by the way. I know. It all comes back on this podcast for you. It all comes back to Mickey Rooney.

Nathan Lane and I just talked about it a month ago. Yes. And that circulated. Everyone loved hearing that conversation. But we have... I missed it, but I remember the impression as I was the number one star in the world. Yeah. Number one star in the world.

bang you hear me the world it was exactly that every time bang you hear me you know that was anyway it took one day to know him in 40 years to believe it but wait but have you ever watched the year without a Santa Claus was it Mickey yes it was the Clay Nation

the Clay Nation and literally when you when we close our eyes and I hear you say, like, we should just start sending you the dialogue to record for us. We watch it every Christmas. It's, you know, like it's the heat miser and snowmiser. Oh, that was you.

Incidentally for your edification, Judy Garland never owned a car. Because they pumped her so full of drugs, they killed her. He's never one who took a breath. He went until he was completely out of breath. Yeah, he one of those guys. But anyway, I'm glad we brought that up.

But back to, hey, dude, I just want to, because I know how hard this is. There's 17 million podcasts broadcasting right now. But anyway, we started in the early Halsian days of 1.75 million. So it's four people specifically in their 40s and early 50s. Well, it's not a bad thing. No, I thought you said four people. Like there's only four people who listen to it. Basically, probably.

You being, no, you're not even a full, like you tap in and out. But my brother and my father are the two weekly listeners. No, it really just started out that the co-star on my show, on Hey, Dude, when we were, like, we were teenagers on this show. And he and I dated during that time. We were, like, children. And we all, David Lashire. And we collectively as a cast, when the show ended in 1991, No one had cell phones. No one had email addresses. We all had home phone numbers and addresses, like home addresses. That was the way you could contact people. So we mostly lost touch. And then as we found out, as these fans of the show grew up and were out in the world, there was a little bit of an audience for it. And then we started getting invited to, you know, like doing a panel and doing a 20th anniversary thing. And you start to get that old.

And we all reconnected and got each other's cell phone numbers and started a group chat. So David, my co-star, is the one who came to me with the podcast idea. Because my reaction to it was, who doesn't have a podcast and, like, why? Why should we do it? What was his answer? I have to say the irony is. Yes, but I was going to get to that, but you can say it. Okay.

You know what I said. No, go ahead. Christine never listened to podcasts ever. And almost I started listening to podcasts. And she would make fun of me because I was listening to podcasts all the time. And then ironically, she started doing this podcast and loving it and doing other people's podcasts. And now she even set up all the tech for this podcast. So like she's become the podcast expert.

But can you still get away with not listening to any podcast? Well, I don't really listen. Listen, Conan has never heard his show. Conan is not, I've never heard this show. Way too self-critical. I can't. I dip in and out. I dip in and out.

And I actually lately, I started listening to podcasts to fall asleep, which I feel is sort of an insult. I feel that's a little bit insulting. He's never listened to you guys to fall asleep. So Ben blew our minds when he came on in the early days this podcast and said he loved it. And the really visceral real reaction was like, really?

Yes. Because it made me happy to hear you guys. you know, being funny and talking and also being yourselves and fans of both of you, so, you know. I like the make you happy part. That's what podcast should do. I think so too.

I think, I actually think so too. And I feel like I'm a convert because I do, here's what I didn't expect to happen is that it would be so much fun to reconnect with David as adults with our own lives and families. and many of our fellow castmates. But the people that we had worked with in, like, the early 90s

that haven't seen in years or people that we were fans of that were getting to meet and talk to. And, like, I'm a sucker at this stage of my life for, like, nice connection with people. I feel like I'm sentimental about it. I really have enjoyed it. I had the same thing with Nathan Lane.

We did the thing in 81 with Mickey Rooney. I really'd seen him once in New York at a cafe. I mean, it's just 40 years. Yeah. It's up right like that. Completely. It was kind of emotional at the end because it was like, I really like Nathan Lane.

Now he's maybe the greatest Broadway star film. You know, both of us were fledgling, and I got my little run on SNL. But just as a friend, he was so cool and connecting with him. So I'm just cosigning what you just said. I felt like that.

Are you guys are doing, are you doing grownups right now? Yeah, yeah. I had the same feeling when we did Happy Gilmore, too. Yeah, last year. And I was doing a scene with Adam, and we were doing these two ridiculous characters, you know, like whatever 30 years later. I'm like, oh, I got emotion. I was like, oh, here we are. We're still here.

We're still doing this. And it looks like no time is past. I got, he just pulled. We all look exactly the same. Spade likes it to do his in complete darkness. I was going to. say, what is happening? I can see a slight shadow.

No, I'm kidding. He's fine. You're fine. But can you see me in the frame? I fell down a little bit. See like the logo of your trucker cap, which I kind of bore mine to just be connected to you. All right, Dana. So five hour energy has sent us two new flavors in a box.

And, you know, we've been doing five energy for a long time. I slug this all the time. A big sponsor of our show. It's a little wakey, waky for spady, spady. And, but I'm always willing to try new flavors, and they really mix them up. So today we're going to try two new ones, and one is going to be Boston cream donuts. One's going to be a jelly donut. So, you're going to open them up and we're going to pull them out.

Okay. I am opening the package. And at the end, we're going to pick that. hat of the one we like. Now I'm going to try this one first. This is jelly donut. Okay. Can we all, can we get that?

Jelly donut and Boston Cream Donut. Yeah. So I'm going to start with Boston Cream. Ready? There's lots of confetti, too, in case anyone was curious. Okay, Boston Cream? Yeah, you can watch my face.

Okay. Here I go. I smell it. Okay. Okay. Mild but aggressive. Oh my God, it tastes exactly like it. Oh, my God.

Yeah, I don't know how they do this. Oh, yeah, good job. That's good. Add that. Okay, now. All right. I'm going to try it. You try one of them.

You try one. Okay, I'm doing jelly donut. Five-hour energy. No sugar. Here we go. Look, boom. You got how weak you are. Boom.

Just taking my time. I don't need any pressure. Here it is. He takes the whole thing. Oh, Oh, how sweet it is. It is sweet. That's jelly.

A little Johnny Carson's not going. Yes. Delicious. It tastes like a jelly donut, right? I'm going to try mine right now. It tastes like a jelly donut. Yeah. I've got to cleanse the palate.

Now I've, okay. When I'm going to try. Oh, you haven't done it. This one. Yeah, I haven't done this Boston Cream donut. very fragrant has a viscosity it's got like texture to it there's viscosity it's got viscosity wow it's got viscosity let's see what we got here here we go that's a Boston cream donut right there and a jelly donut all right you go pick pick one I'm going to pick the hat

they gave us two hats like yes this is a tough one this is uh this is kind of dramatic okay ready They're both very delicious. What? Yeah. Chili donut? I know. Everyone's freaking out. There's a lot of ooze and awe's in the comments.

Okay. Let's see what you pick. I'm going to go with the Boston cream. Oh my gosh. The Boston cream team. The Boston. Let's see how we look in this. I look great, unfortunately.

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about your podcast. Yes. So has it gone unexpected places? Has it gone? Do you guys get emotional? Is it mostly light laughing or all of the above? It's, I mean, it's pretty light. I feel like We've had people on who, I mean, really surprise me and can go so deep. And, you know, like, which I think is, like, I'll write down names of, you know, self-help books and things. I mean, I just feel like, like we had Malora Harden on recently and to talk about the office and Jan on the office and her. And she started talking about how she did Dancing with the Stars and, like, never expect, you know, which I hear from everybody. who does Dancing with the Stars, that it becomes this transformative experience. And, but she, she was just, like, went into this place of just, it's all about just, like,

living life and bringing joy. And it was just very moving to me. And it's a surprising interview. I feel like there's, I've had many of those. I actually had you on twice. And I heard stories that I hadn't heard before from that. Yes. I swear to know.

After a long time. Like, I didn't know you had. auditioned for whatever Al Pacino movie that you... Oh, yeah, author, author. Author, author. I had never heard that one. Did you get it? Get it?

Sorry. Did I get it? I didn't get it. No. You know who got it? You didn't get it? It's a very... I didn't get it.

I got it. It's all I got it. It's all I got it. It's all I got it. No, it's an obscure one, by the way. I forget that movie exists. Yes. I remember it, though.

But at the time, it's all. But at the time, it was a big deal. Was it the 80s? It was the 80s. Yeah. Well, I guess the thing is, it's like whatever your ages are, it doesn't matter or in my particular situation. This is the first time. It's a wake-up call.

Like, there's so much life behind you now, just massive decades. And, of course, incredible achievements in your family. And so, you know, you just sort of take a moment and go, whoa, where are we now? What does this mean? It is sort of, I don't like call it, it doesn't have to be a crisis, but it's sort of a, that age you're talking. about really. I'm sort of past it. I never had a midlife crisis. I don't know why. I had a botched bypass when I was 42. The guy had a bad day. Eni, meeny, Miny, Moe. He got one out of two, though. So that kind of woke me up. You never heard that

story? Let's not go into it. That's too much about me. Did you sue? Did you get him out? I had to sue because he said, I think I did it all right. I didn't want to sue. If he'd said I had a bad day, I wouldn't have done anything. But he was, you know, he was, I always wonder about that because, like, we don't understand what the doctor's doing. And who else is in the, like, how do you prove that a doctor screwed up when the doctor's the only one who has the knowledge of what he's doing? I guess the nurses and people around. Well, you can palpitate it, even if the lights went out, you know if you're trying to get a mammary artery. This is great.

See how the podcast can go anywhere. The mammary artery can bypass. So it's like he sticks. a hose to a branch, not to the main trunk. Oh, so he literally connected it to the wrong thing. Oh, my God. Yes. But it didn't harm me.

I just, I had people praying. I don't know. So I've never had a problem since. And my cholesterol is literally 26 now. It was 400. That's another story. Oh, my God. But the,

that's super low. It suspends the idea of corner area already plaque. You know, it's great talking about this. But my, my cardiologist who's a scientist and he was in Vienna and he, I got on the phone and told him that he bypassed the wrong artery. And he talked to people at the convention in Vienna of cardiologists all over the world in America and said, oh, yes, I'd heard doctor was slipping. So it becomes a conspiracy. They're like gods.

And if people, if there's first ADs, basically, they're going, I know about that. By the way, Dana, that's something. It's like, if you're a nurse, you're a high. anesthesiologist and you're darting your eyes going he's fucking this up what is the ranking do you break rank and say hey man I think you're supposed to it's this whole amputate it's like a

first AD when Ben was maybe setting up cameras in Tropic Thunder and Jack Black goes I don't know should we tell him this is not this shot is terrible but they let him do it anyway yeah that's that happens a lot with directors too as they go on in their careers nobody wants to tell them that it's not good

I've done a few shitty movies but every time they were shitty, the least smart guy on the set was the director. And I've had makeup artists that were the smartest person on the set. No, I'm telling you, directing a movie is like one

of the jobs you can do without knowing anything at all. Because you can just let everybody else do their stuff. Because the machine will work. The machine will work. If you don't impose what you want on it, it'll just work kind of automatically

because they're just like people are so used to, okay, we set up the camera here. And you say yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. It makes total six. What is the scenario where the, sometimes on movies, the first AD or someone yells action instead the director? When is that situation? That happens a lot.

I noticed that a lot lately because I've been acting in a couple of things. And the director hasn't been yelling action, the things I've been working on. And I kind of, I have mixed feelings about it. First of all, the word action is, I think, kind of a misnomer. Because like what if you're doing a scene where you just have to be doing nothing? Yeah, yeah. And then you say action. And then all of a sudden you feel like you're not doing anything.

Action. Like a starter gun. You know what I mean? But seriously, like it makes you, it makes you tense. So I've worked with directors like Noah Baumback who just say begin or, you know, like when you're ready. And I kind of like that's a little more like chilled out. But then there is a thing where. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But there is a thing where, you know, the director will have the AD yell action and cut. And I've always felt as a director. you should be the one to yell cut. Yeah, you're lost. You know when you want to cut.

And sometimes director's cut too soon, I think, too. Do you ever feel that when you're working, that the director cuts too soon? Of course. You can find some gold when it guards down in the earth. Yeah. Kind of fucking around. I mean, even comedy especially. What does Clint East would say?

Think he would kind of go, you know. That's enough. You know, he's famous for, he's famous for having done just one or two takes. Everybody, I've never worked with it. but, and I think he's officially retired now. I'm not sure, but he's, you know, incredible. He's made so many movies. He's amazing.

He would just do one or two takes, and all the actors basically have to be ready with what you got on that one, and if you ask for another take, he'll apparently will say, like, why. He's did sort of a Brando move, according to Tom, to Tom Hanks. He kind of, he's directing, but he's in the scene, and he's just walking on in the wide shot or whatever. Yeah, okay, what is it again? The script super hour goes, all right.

let's go get those guys. Then he immediately says his line. So he doesn't, he didn't remember his lines. He just would hear it and then say it. Right. I've done that too. Well, if you're directing an in it.

Dodge ball, I could tell. You were so in the pocket. The dodge ball. I love the macho. I love your macho care. Whatever that alpha male character. That's kind of one of my favorite characters that comedians do.

It's, it don't you find it? It's fun. Well, it's fun because it's so. Coming from you, it's just so fucking funny. You get to take all of your ideas of what it means to be like macho. And then there's always the insecurity underneath it that's just there anyway. Mustache. Well, it's hard to be in it indirect.

It's got to be weird. It's got to be. I don't like doing it. I don't do it anymore. I used to do it a lot, but I don't do it anymore because it's, I think he can't do both things. How fast do you get back to Video Village after your scene? I mean, you get to a certain way where you don't want to go to Video Village. You don't want to see it.

You don't want to see what you look like. Oh, it's hard. Well, sometimes directors undercut you. All right, let's go watch it in an idiot village. I go, idiot village. I thought it was okay. God. I never heard that.

I just made it up, but it sounded funny. It's a good name for it, idiot village, because when I'm directing, I don't like video villages. Because I think it's, I think it's created for people to watch. As an actor, you tell me what you guys. As an actor, I don't like that there's like 40 people watching my... I love it. Right.

Agents, managers, lawyers. Any guests, yes. Every 10% are in the world. That's right. Put them in a spillover, Idiot Village. I'm going to call it Idiot Village from now. Yeah, there should be one that's not nearby. Also, it's not a Village.

It's not a Village. And it's not a Village. It should be festive. and you can buy donuts and there's a windmill. I mean, it's a stupid tent. It's a tent. I go to a video village. I don't know when 30% of the people are.

I'm like, why are they watching mine and going, I don't know. Oh, God, that is incredible. Maybe one more. Look at that research. Look at that research. It took me two and a half minutes off Wikipedia. Incredible. It typed money.

Yes, David's are typed. That's why I can remember it. And also, you're going to be out in a question. Courtney Cox film. Evil Genius in September. Oh, there you go. And that is true. That is true. I forget about that one. Yes. I like the title here on the show. That was a great fun. Bernie Cox is just cool, right? She's super cool. And I'll be really honest, she called me, she called me. That was actually funny, too. I was like, I didn't even realize I had Courtney, I had Courtney Cox's number in my phone because it came up as Courtney Cox.

So she called me. And I didn't get the number. I think maybe I didn't think it was her. I don't know. I didn't pick up. She sent a text saying, is this still you? And I said, yes. So I called her back.

And she directed this film that she's been trying to get made for a while. It's based on a true crime documentary on Netflix called Evil Genius, which was set in, like, the early 2000s. And it's one of those, you know, it's like a bank robbery kind of goes wrong. And then there's all this fallout that you find out like so many people in this little town. I believe it's in Pennsylvania. Anyway, we're involved in this kind of scheme, this sort of evil scheme. And it's true.

And Patricia Arquette. That's a good way to pitch it without telling what actually happens. That's the idea. scheme. It's a good title. Evil genius. I'm intrigued. Courtney Cox is an interesting name.

Did you ever have a character of the last name Cox in one of the Fawker's movies? Because it has that same. No, I'm Bill Cox. How are you? I'm Mr. Fawker. I'm Vicki V.

We just did one. Where were you? Where were you? We needed you. We needed you. I can't believe you. I'm someone named Cox. I mean, Courtney Cox.

I mean, it sounds illicit, but it's absolutely ten. It's nothing. You know, it never ceases to amaze me how much enjoyment people do get from saying focker. I know. Sounds like fucker. Now, who thought of that? That's a good question.

That's a good question. Was it out in the world, out in the ether? I heard some weird thing the other day on Instagram. And it was one of those who thought of it. I can't remember what this. Well, Jim might have thought of it because Jim was originally going to do it before I did it. So back in the day. Oh, is that right?

Maybe. Yeah. I think he was attached to doing it, doing it. I think Stephen Spielberg was going to direct it at one point. It's had long history. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, go ahead, David. I was going to say the other trivia I heard was you couldn't use Fockers unless you found

one person named Focker, at least one person. Right. I don't know if that's true. I think that you have to clear a name whenever you do a movie and we have to make sure there's somebody who doesn't have the name. It's almost better. You don't have the name when you're clearing names. Usually you have to say you can't bump.

with someone. Yes, that's what I thought it was, but I never heard that they're actually, we had to prove that there was a fucker. So you were not just making up a dirty name is what I did. That seems like we're like a government thing. You have to prove it. It's almost like they just don't want you to make the movie. Now, you're going to call the movie the fuckers. Is that, get that rat? I get that right. The fakers. Is that what you find funny? That sounds like a Republican senator. Senator John Kennedy. Oh, yeah, Kennedy. That's Kennedy. Yeah. Yeah. Your worst, not mine.

Now, the movie's called The Falker in law. He is out of a movie. Isn't that guy out of a movie? Oh, he's Ross Perrault's cousin or something. Can I finish one time? I mean, they have that southern, you know. But my thing on those guys is I think they go home and they drop the accent. It's totally, they just do it.

Better to get clicks. It is funnier. He puts on his tie. All right. I'll see you tonight, honey. I'm going to go hunt me some Congress people. said on Twitter. I'm not wearing a tie. I'm just pretending it's tie.

It's Foghorn, leghorn. Yeah, it is a little bit. Oh, yeah. I did fog on. I did a Tina Faye cartoon for Netflix. And I did, I did Daniel Craig, who was doing Foghorn and Lain Horne. Why, I don't appreciate what you're saying to me right here, right now. It's an easy accent. You guys are a good audience.

Can you come back tomorrow? I'm your best audience, Dana. I mean, I will have a... I'm your best audience. Give me the alpha male guy, just for a second. What do you want to know? What do you want to know, Dana Carvey? Oh, look at me.

I'm a funny guy with glasses. How do you get a voice like that? I don't know. It comes from down here. And then it goes away very quickly. It looks like your lip syncing to some other voice. It's amazing. It sort of goes back to a Tony Robbins.

Yeah. The heavy weights. Yes, heavy weights. No, Tony Robbins. What's your fucking problem? Tony Robbins. That's who you based heavyweights character on Tony Robbins. We did Tony Robbins on like the Ben Stiller show back in the day we did take.

Yeah, I remember we went on the Tonight Show and I was, I did a Tony Robbins impression on that show on Ben Stiller show, which like five people saw on Fox in 1993. And I was on the Tonight show promoting it. And they got the real Tony Robbins to hide behind the desk and jump out at me when I was doing the impression. Really? And he's like six, six, nine. He's gigantic with gigantic hands, right? Everything about it is gigantic. I'm just imagining the segment producer pitching that idea when we were doing it.

Also, what are we going to talk about? I haven't heard of that before. Who was the host? When they go, hey, in the middle of your story, you don't know, so you're like, you know this. I think it was Lenno. Yeah. And then he pops out and you're like, oh. Yeah, I think it'd be great if we hang out of him in, you know, and Ben's out.

It just comes out and scans him. down here. People like scans, you know. They love people getting scared, you know what I mean? I love dude, I know. Oh, man. I do. Okay. You guys were in the dink together.

Oh, yeah. So the dick. We produced the dink. We had Jake. Yes. We had Jake talk all about it. Very nice, smart guy. Really explained the whole thing. You produced it or one of the answers.

Yes. Yes. Josh Greenbaum directed it. Who I know very well. He did a documentary on My Ill Fated The Dana Carvey Show. He directed that. That's right. Which is a very good documentary.

He's great. Such a good documentary. He's great. And he just directed the new space balls. I know. He's really out there. Yeah. And Sean Clements wrote it, who's a great writer who I've been working with on a bunch of

different things. And he had this idea for a pickleball movie. And it's kind of like, it's interesting because it became this like interesting kind friendship romance story with Mary Steenbergin and Jake. Oh yeah. So it's not quite what you would think. Right, right. It's got a little.

It's a little different, but it just kind of works. She has such a charm about her that you just can, you kind of kind of get the whole thing. Yes. Did you say there's no pickleball in it? That's kind of the twist we have. Sorry. Sorry, sorry, Ted Dantzum once in a while. Ted.

No, we mentioned it just in passing. It's nothing about Mary. She's great with, okay, I'll call you later, bye. That's impressive you have Ted Danson on your phone. Right as we brought up his wife. Yeah, I know, I get it. You get it? Yes.

She was great. She adds, you know, it's funny because she's just, like, got such a unique and, like, for me, like kind of classic persona, Mary Steenberg, when you think about the comedy she's been in over the years, you know? Yeah. And, yeah, and she's, I don't know, she was very charming in her in her and she's really. I got a lot of charm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was, okay, pop quiz?

And Ed Harris, by the way. Ed Harris. Well, I'll see anything with Ed Harris in it. Less fun. Ed Harris. They're never at the same audition, I'll say that. He said, Ed Harris is in Dutton Ranch. Right.

That piece of a shit show. He's seen him do press junkets. You like the show? Not really. Oh, yeah. No, he went off on Dutton Ranch. They said I was going to be the lead. What the fucking guys?

It didn't even put me in the movie. I shouldn't say so much. You're on a red carpet. I saw that. I saw it. Personally, I appreciate the candor. I appreciate the honesty. I think people should be more honest and real on red carpet.

I loved everything about it. If I ever get on red carpet again, I'm going to do that. Fuck this movie. You don't sound like Dana Carvey. I sound like Ben Stiller a little bit, but this is my alpha male. voice. So don't give me any shit about this. That's your alpha male voice. No, I could. I would probably go down to here if I could.

Can I ask you guys a question? It's a whole shit in Hollywood meeting. Go ahead. It has a question. We love questions. Okay. So you've done, earlier on in the interview, you were talking about cameos. And I was thinking, like, are there cameos that I've done that I don't remember after having done this many years and Chobas, are there cameos you guys have done

that you don't remember? You probably can't answer it if you don't remember them. But maybe when you go, oh my God, I'm in that movie. Or the movie comes on and you go like, oh my God, I did a thing in that movie. I did it. There is one.

It's kind of weird. So for some reason, I got myself in Halloween 2 in like 1988 2. Wait, hold the phones here. Yeah. Wait. You're in it?

I'm in Halloween 2. I know everything about... Wow. The Halloween franchise, particularly Halloween 1 and 2. Yes, in the hospital. Are you in the hospital? No, I was with the news team out there. Okay.

So what happened was I do it. I think I had a couple lines. I get in the thing and Donald Pleasins has a thing coming out of his eye. It's never been really on a movie set. I go to like the coronet theater in San Francisco with my friends. I'm in a fucking movie, man. So then I'm watching the movie. And at one point you see the back of my head.

And the other part, that's my arm. I mean, I literally. You're in the scene. Yeah. So that's my story, David. You must have a better one. Oh, I cannot wait to find that. There's a movie called Loser and there was a movie called Light Sleeper.

And both of them were cameos. And I mean, not really a cameo because I wasn't really light sleeper. I just honestly, I got it because Dana didn't do it for I swear to God. It's a Paul Schrader movie. It's all right. It's a Paul Schrader movie. I had my audition and he goes, great. I'm trying to get Dana and if he doesn't want to fly out, I would use you.

I like this. And I said, great. I mean, honestly, again, straight up. Straight up, he said. And then I got a call week later. He said, Dana's in L.A. He doesn't fly out. And I said, for scale and no flight.

And I said, I will. And he said, okay. So it was a fun thing. And then my favorite cameo was what, reality bites. Ah. Yeah. What constitutes a cameo? I know.

Was it a cameo? It was a part. Or was it a part? I was in spinal. Tap and I got on camera for that one. Yeah, you're one of the, you're the, one of the mime waiters. So that's like a part. I mean, every time I see you, every time I watch Spinal Tap and I see you and I'm going, oh my God,

Dana's Spinal Tap. Well, what are your two stories about cameos or the movie that got away or? Well, I mean, I've done, I've just done cameos in movies that I never saw, except maybe when they first, like, like school for scoundrels. Oh, yes. I've never seen that. Todd Phillips, because we've done Starsky and Hutch and then he did school.

I don't remember that, yes. But I don't think I ever watched. Did he give you a good one? It's awkward if they give you a bag. I'm a helicopter pilot. That's all I remember. And I've got a mustache. You had a mustache.

It loves the mustache. Yeah. Loves getting a stash. It changes. What is on a woman that changes a woman as much as a mustache ass changed is a man. Is it a, have you done a prosthetic nose and anything?

Me? I've done. Yes. I have. Wait, what? In the Brady bunch, in the, I get hit with the football. I'll get the nose. I've done bald caps.

I've done bald caps a couple times. Friends and the craft. The crap. Yes. Yeah, the craft, they do like a spell on her and they make her hair. My hair starts to fall out. And so they did a bald cap with hair. falling out, a sort of gnarly bald cap.

But no, I, the cameo I did in Tropic Thunder. Yes. Oh, the simple jack trailer. But then there's a, there's an another cameo, a hidden cameo that is in the scene. I don't think you see me in it, but it's in the, the mockumentary. But it's the scene where Jack Black is acting out. it's like it's the news footage of him at a premiere and you're like his public well i was like your publicist or something but we shot it so i was pretending to be your

publicist in one of those scenes that's not in the actual movie and i was i was i was trying to do my best kelly bush yes exactly i'm watching that movie again that is my favorite comedy oh my god i mean i would go monty python that of the modern era that's my favorite well because i i brought my wife to it because I'd saw it. When I like a movie, I see it a lot. And you're doing all those fake ads up front, you know, white ass, you know, ass juice or whatever

it was. And she goes, booty sweat. She says, booty sweat. She goes, what am I watching? It's always a good song. Just wait. Yeah. You know, and you're, I mean, you know, Robert Downey Jr.'s The whole thing is just

Robert Downey is brilliant in it. The whole movie is great. And Tom. Tom Cruise, too. Tom Cruise, I mean, is the giant hands. And his dance at the end is, Tom Cruise doing that. It's so funny.

I also have done things where like Happy Gilmore 2, I'll say this on this podcast, where I had a bit that they got cut. That I thought was really funny. And it got cut. Which one was that? Was that Happy Gilmore? Not thrilled.

What? Happy Gilmore, Happy Gilmore, too. Oh, that way you're saying, you had a big end there. I got cut. And I'm like, what you got Ben still are that?

And I never confronted Adam about it. Maybe he just talked to him about it. Sorry. But there was like a really good chunk that I thought I really, you know. No, he doesn't seem mad. He's got him on. No, it's just that it was. They had to make.

I thawabafo to you too, buddy. I'll talk later. What did he say to you? I just, instead of saying goodbye, I said, I thought, I thought,

thob, ba, bow, ba, I thought of you to everybody. We're going to have him on. I can't believe he would cut Ben Stil. I don't know, but I've never talked to him about it because I felt like, what was the line in that movie?

Because there's a lot of stuff in that movie, like that my little thing would get cut. Too many golfers to fit in. They couldn't have 10 seconds. So many golfers. Price and the Chambu. Bryce and the Shambu had a tearful monologue they kept in. Exactly.

It's part of his deal. Well, my question for Christina is, and the dude, hey dude, do you ever go to Comic Con with that or something? We've done 90s con. We've done 90s con. Oh, okay. Well, there's a couple different cons. There's some cons. And I had not been in the con world.

Nick Swarton's at most of them. There's people that make a great living. John Lovitz goes to a lot. Yeah. It's great. I mean, honestly, I. They pay you in cash. Well, that's the, I mean, it's like, yes, I remember when you played Blackjack in Vegas

and with my brother and you guys won a good amount of money and you wanted it in cash. Yeah, of course. Because there's something that feels so. It's exciting. Yes. When you get right, get the real money. I have a director question for Ben before you continue that story. No, no, there's more to that story.

You go ahead. No, that's not the story. It's just I had never experienced. It's great. I did two of them. of them, but it was also, I was a little like, what's this going to be? And honestly, I had, came away with a very similar feeling that I have on the podcast of like, that was actually so fun, like running into people from movies that we had done. Oh, you also, you walk on,

you see people from stuff you would never see. Yes. Yes, exactly. And then you have appreciative fans that aren't crazy. And they're pretty, I mean, I would say the fan to the normal, the crazy ratio, I'm in a very small amount of crazy and a little stinky. They filter out the crazy. They're not. I don't think they filter them out. I don't mind being grabbing grope. It might not be a fucking.

I just love that show so much. Yeah. Dana. There's definitely. No, I'm just doing a very nerdy guy. There's nothing. There's nothing neurological about this person. I feel like there's the people that come and pay money to,

It's get you to sign something or to take a photo with you. Like, and they wait on the line. I just feel like there's something so sweet about it. It means a lot to people. It means a lot. These characters over the years, the years go on. They see you in person, which is almost impossible. Right.

And by the way, I feel like we, as performers, like we do the movie or we do the show or whatever you do, you finish it, you move on. It comes out. and you'll hear what people think about it, or you'll have friends or like, oh, you were great in that or this, or you'll read a terrible review or whatever. But rarely do you get, like, actual, like a nice, like a great story of, I watched both of the Brady Bunch movies

when my mom was in the hot, like these heartwarming stories. It's the age they were when they intersected. You know, for me, it's Wayne's World. I'll meet people, you know. Exactly. I'm 67 years of age, but man, when I saw that movie, I don't know how old you would, but it was fucking amazing. You know what you get as you go through life?

It's like in the age group you're in, you get, hey, you look great, you know, and great goes for a while. Hey, you look great. Then they're a little more surprised. You look great. And then eventually they see you and they go, how you doing? What's up? There's no review of how you look.

It just goes silent. You still here? You guys are still in the, you guys are looking really good. It's fun. I like being older. I don't know. It's a weird quirk of me. That's good.

Yeah, you've aged well, Dana. You have, because you have an eternal youthfulness about you. You both do. Seriously. I really feel like you both do. By the way, David,

I just. You both are eternally youthful, I believe. But like, but, Dana, you do have always had like this, you know, spry. Right back to Dana. It's really flirty.

You're really flirting. No, it's all. Like, spry. Sprite. I like the word spry. He's bright. I saw it. Try to have hair.

Stay fit. Yes, exactly. Keep it going. V-O-2 max. You want to have a good, strong engine so you can have life force. Yeah, how do you do that? How do you maintain your V-O-2? Me, it's hiking up really steep hills very, very hard.

Right. Good. That's good. How about you, Dave? Not that. I'll have to look at. get my diary, but I'm doing some stuff. It's kind of on the hush-hush right now, but

there's a lot of... It's not... It's not... It's not like physically working out, but it's... They're getting... The cast the characters together. Anyway, I'm going to go in the audience. I just took the mic. I took the mic off because I like the handle.

I like the handle. It's stuck. So is the whole game back together for Falkers? Oh, yeah, we got Fokker's and why. You got De Niro and everybody? All right. There was going to be a directing question. Yeah, there was a directing question.

It wasn't really that. Let's hear the directing question first. It's too off the beating. It's just on movies. I would have directing questions. I could do just an entire podcast on you and directing. I can barely get one question. My directing question is, what do you think is the most important attribute?

And I think I know this, but there's nuance to it, to a great film director. The most singular important. And I have an idea of one word, and you'll know what I mean when you hear it. I think it's the ability to listen, to react and listen in the moment to what's happening. Is that right, Dana, is that the wrong answer? You're saying as a director. As a director. Just to really listen.

Yeah, I was, I'm kind of nerdy with movies and love movies. Yesterday I was watching Alan Pakula talking, you know, Alan Pakula was. Yeah, yeah, the director. Great director, directed, you know, Paralex View. Yeah. Three days of the Condor. Oh, three days of the condor. And there was an interview with him in 1974 talking about directing, and he said the first

thing he does when he comes to the set is he wants to let everybody know on the set that all ideas are welcome. And be willing to take chances and throw out ideas. And even if the ideas are bad, he said, you don't let people know that they're bad because you don't want to shut them down. And you want people to, you just want to have this collaboration on set. And then you have to just kind of take it. You have these ideas of what you want to do and plans and, you know, prep and all that. But then you just want to, in the moment, listen, see, and see how it's, what's happening in reality and then react to that.

Yeah. Because when you're starting out, you think like, oh, man, the director's got to know all the lenses and stuff, all the technical stuff. But the thing I think is just like, can the director look at something and that what is their blink instinct? Is it working or not working? Exactly. That's the most important thing. That was the one, blink. I just said, that's it.

And I tell that to young people, I might do this and that. And it says, the whole thing comes down to that. You think of Spielberg and Jaws, he just knew. And I've been in some shitty movies. You can look them up, kids. And when the director, it's not funny at all. And he's down on one knee crying with laughter. And you know it's not working.

There's nowhere you can go. But I just think that directing is about the brain chemistry, the intuitive chemistry, and that's what the Beatles had too. It will do that pull. You know, they just blink. Otherwise, it's not there yet. Yeah. And then deciding in the moment how to fix it. Yeah.

And Pekula was saying, like, sometimes people talk about, like, you know, these ideas and theories and all that stuff. But, like, with a character, sometimes it's just be an actor who you meet. And then it's like, I'm interested in that actor. what are they going to bring to the character? And that forms the character because it's the actor. Being open to all of that, I think is really important. Could I just shout out, Alan, for a second, for three days of the Condor? And one of the greatest pieces of acting I've ever seen was Faye Donaway saying goodbye to Robert Redford in the train station.

Still gives me chills. Yeah. When he says, just give me 10 minutes and she's madly in love with him. And the way she breaks and the way he shot it where he's just a ghost. in the steam. I mean, it's just like, great film is just, there's nothing like it.

The best. The best. So, anyway. That's true, because Dana has got a little wonky. I was never in a good movie,

but I really know a lot about how to make one. You are in a lot of good movies. And also, by the way, Spinal Tap is probably like up in my top, you know, three or five movies.

So you, I'm very curious what that experience for you, watching how Rob Bryner did that. You know, it's incredible to me that movie. Well, I came in and I've said this before, but I just met with them because I had the same manager as Billy Crystal. And I came in there, and it was just, it was, you know,

Christopher Guess and Rob and everybody at a table. And I was just, I go, this is kind of intimidated. You guys are all here. And I just come in as a stranger. I just said that as a guy reading or, I don't even know. I was just kind of meeting, you know. and so I said that you guys know each other

and I'm just a new guy and they didn't even blink they elected Marks Brothers they all stood up and completely left the room in unison just just went right out of the room and didn't signal

or anything just completely got up and left so I'm back there just waiting for a couple of minutes then they come in and then later on I found I'm gonna be when I was on the set and they walked in

and they had the wigs on with Ishwin Hoy and all this thing I was like you know just blown away by the transformation and Christopher guests, well, all of them in that movie. It was magic.

It's just magic in a bottom. Magic. Yeah. Magic. Yep. All right. Before we let you guys go, we're going to talk quickly mentioned Stiller's soda. Why not? Oh, yeah. Sold in New York. One of the biggest laughs I got

this year was that were you in the grocery store doing handling with these sodas and no one really knows it's you? It's like the funniest kind of promotion. God, I thought So weird because it was like real. And I was at Whole Foods in New Jersey and I'm wearing a turtleneck and an apron and I'm giving people little tastes of our stiller soda, which is real.

And it was just bizarre. It's been like such an interesting year because we launched last September. And the whole idea, I do love soda. I don't drink. I love Shirley Temples. And that was the idea of it. Yeah, I remember those as kids. Love Shirley Temples as a kid because it was me.

that was like going at my parents, nightclubs, you order Shirley Temple, you're like the grownups. Or if you're a guy, wasn't it a Roy Rogers, same drink, but they call it Roy Rogers, but yeah, okay. Yeah, and I always, you know, laugh when I order a Shirley Temple in a restaurant because there's always a little bit of like, oh, Shirley Temple, you know, it's kind of like, it's a kid's drink or it's, you know, so I thought it could be fun to do Shirley Temples, make them kind of, like, have fun with that in terms of, like,

the ads and stuff, like that people are kind of embarrassed to order them. And also, like, all of these celebrity brands, you know, obviously Clooney and the, you know, amazing, you know, Casa Amigos, right? Success they've had of that. Oh my God. But there's like a lifestyle thing in these ads

of all liquor ads of like coolness. Well, that could be funny to try to do that but with Shirley Temples and soda. So it's been fun. It's been fun over the last year. And yeah, we're like in Whole Foods. We're in Walmart. We're in Target.

We're just, we're going to be in Sprouts. I'm very excited about sprouts. Sprouts. I am near the New Jersey Whole Foods. I'm going to go check it out to me. Check it out, man. That's where I was. You can order on Amazon, too.

That's right. We got Shirley Temple, root beer, lemon lime, cream soda. We just did it. We were going to be in Cats, Delhi, and that's a big deal because, you know, cats has only carried, like, their Dr. Browns for years, so now we're in there, too. Great. And it's been really fun. What's the charge?

I mean, is it surprisingly fun? Like, you get the numbers? Hey, we just sold this many. I mean, it's probably not a, is it not a, you don't, you don't, you don't. need the money, but it's kind of fun to do a business, right? It's fun to do something that I have no idea what I'm doing. It's like a whole new world. Yeah. I don't know, you know, and then learning, like, learning about what's similar to show business and what's different. But the most exciting thing is when somebody, like, is holding your soda, drinking it and enjoying it and saying, I really

liked your soda. Yeah, we walked by, we, we were on 7th Avenue and a person walking on the street with a, they had the lemon lime. Yeah. They're like, love the soda. And, And Ben turned around and was like, that is the coolest thing. That is like more cool than being recognized for anything. It was the coolest moment when he's like, love the soda. I imagine what it's like, I can't cook. But like if you can cook for people and make them happy when they eat something, you know, there's something really special about that thing that people get out of something that makes them feel good.

So, you know, and the idea also that it's kind of like, you know, all natural, good for you. And, you know, that's important too. And you were part of the test tasting. You, you, you, oh, we do. That's the most fun part, too. It's like getting the samples. You get, like, the samples and you get, like, three different versions of the. Yeah.

And then you have to give them notes on it and, you know, like, have to figure out, like, the tasting thing is really. Oh, it's mild but aggressive. Exactly. The aftertaste, a bit of an aftertaste. It's very Tom Cruise. What? You should have Lauren. It's seven up and grenadine.

Ben's going through that thing that he goes through when he goes through it. What? Did you ever hear Lauren Michael's quote about marriage, and I don't know if it's his quote? Marriage is a prison that everyone's trying to escape into. Okay. Stop. Oh, I didn't mean about you guys. No, that's brilliant.

Escape into. That's such a great Lord. That's a great Lord. He has so many. I don't know if he gets him from, do you have it, Lauren? Marriage is the only game you can play and both can lose.

And he told me once, I go, thanks, I'm going to take off. I got to be an update. I think the prison marriage thing is, everyone's trying to escape into, you know,

it's funny. It's, it's, it's so depressing. I'm like, aren't you married, Lord? Oh,

no, it's not about me. I don't, I don't count. All right. Well, thanks, guys. First of all, thanks for getting up early for this. No, no, this is great. This has been so much fun. The podcast. Good time. Hey, dude. The 90s called.

Thank you. Yes. You have it written down there. Thank you. Just put that in and you'll listen to it. And if you love the 90s like we all do, you can get the show. Oh, good. Well, then maybe I'll hit you up to come on. Let me know. I'm just on a farm. in the middle of nowhere. Look at me. I mean. I'm still at Courtney Cox's number.

Try me there. Okay. I seriously, first of all, thank you guys for asking us to do this together because I know you could have been, would have easily come solo. We thought it was exciting. It's more fun, yeah. And I'm such a fan of both of you as well. So for ages and ages.

It's funny that you, Dana, I always assumed you guys had met. Yeah, I mean. We must have, we could have passed on one of the. That's besides cameos in movies, you know, you just, did we meet it that second Oscars? Or was that the, were you at the Emmys, you know, because you're meeting so many people so fast. Some event. Yes, exactly. Those are literally embarrassing.

Like you go, hey, when you're walking by. And then it's like, hey. I know, that doesn't really count. I feel like, yeah, when I see you, David, it always feels like you, David. It always feels like you're safe space. Yes, easy. I'll be easy to talk to. I promise.

He's easy to talk. You're easy. You're easy. Here's one that's kind of, he has super conversational. I was backstage with the Oscars when Mike Myers was doing Bohemia Rats and I ran to Gary Oldman and he had just done Churchill

so I was a little awestruck and he goes and he says to me I believe that we met in the 90s at Piccadilly Secrets and I had no memory of meeting Gary Oldman so I just faked it. Of course no you gotta just go with it you just got to fake it. Then Daniel Craig came over in a tuxedo with a martini no joke and I said do you are you ever not in character

he did he had a tuxedo on martin i i met robert redford a couple of times and one time i met him he told me that he worked with my father in live studio like on live television in the 50s and i went to my dad and i said dad i met robert he said he worked with he was like no never met him no never happened you'd remember you remember robert redford that's fucking i was like

but robert redford said he no no no didn't happen He just got right to it No kind of soft landing But good for you, yeah I don't really No, no, we're not going to play this game right now All right, bye guys Thanks have a nice time together

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