Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Brendan Fraser on Eisenhower, The Mummy 4, and Chris Farley

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

The guys catch up with Brendan Fraser to talk about life after winning an Oscar, working with Chris Farley on Airheads, and becoming Dwight D. Eisenhower for his new movie, Pressure. They also cover the highly anticipated fourth Mummy movie, why the third one was set in China, and how he used to purposefully fall out of his chair during auditions. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I always feel like someone's going to walk in the door and hand me a dish towel and say, Fraser, get back to the... Get out of here. You know, it just, it's in me. Yeah, the third one, it's, it's kind of, it's sort of the problem child. Okay. Which had the strange elements that the audience were like, you know, you're giving me something that I don't.

You're telling me it's one thing and it's kind of not, you know. We got away from what people like. I hate that. We can't do that. the other movie. They want to see something new and then it's like, you can't reinvent the wheel. No, you want, if you want to eat an Oreo, you want that cookie. Yeah.

It tastes like that. You want the band to get back together, which is what we are going to do. And the band is back together. Yes, we're getting the band back together. The fly on the wall aspect of being in the room to see what they dice. Thanks for the pluck. That's the name of the podcast. Oh, excellent. That's right.

So, Brendan Frey's. are you say it wrong. I say it right. Brendan, a phrase you were. I say it funny because he did a cameo in Dickie Roberts

and he knew the director because the director did George of the Jungle was it? Not Tarzan. George of the Jungle, which was a parody of Tarzan. And he was funny in it

and it was a big movie. Yeah. A hundred million dollar movie. And he had done the show before and he was nice enough to say, I have a movie coming out. Can I come on again?

We had a good time. Movies called Pressure. It's about D. Day. He plays Dwight D. Eisenhower. Yeah, heavy movie. We have to make a decision about the weather. I'm definitely seeing it because you know more about history than me, Dana. But hearing about it made me want to see it.

I like those kind of movies. Yeah, tense. A lot of tension. It's in the theater. And then last night, coincidentally, I ran into Polly Shore at the comedy store. And he said, I said, we had Brendan on. I go, Brendan's very soft. and very has a very sweet vibe to him and i said was he always like that on ensigno man

where he played like good question and he said uh he said he was he even back then he's very careful how he talks to and he's even on the podcast he's very quiet and he's very uh we talked after so did you very nice to me very nice to you after so couldn't be a cooler dude a lot of talent packed in there oh we tried on Farley's coat, by the way. Yeah. Oh, yeah, and does a little dance in it. Because he saw Chris's coat up from.

And he started doing some Chris Farley moves. Yeah, yeah, very fun. Sweet. Yeah. So this one's interesting. We had him a couple years ago and it was really about just his travails in show business. He had injuries and his wilderness years and how he came back and he did the whale.

And then we'll talk about what's going on now and that and this new movie. And another surprise if you listen to the end, a surprise to me anyway. Happy surprise. And his post-Oskar life, because before he hadn't won it, I think he was just up for the whale. Yeah. Okay, here he is. Brendan Fraser. You got in.

There's a rumor you got in yesterday. Yeah. And Dana got in yesterday from New York. I did a one-nighter in New York. Did you come in the morning? I came in. I left at 3.30 at Kennedy, heavy on American Airlines. And so we climbed south for a bit and then, well, you don't need the details.

But anyway, the guy came on and said. said we just got our weather report. We're going to have two hours and it could get, it could get pretty rough. You got it too? Choppy, yeah. Yeah. I would come down at something.

I would calm down at something. I would calm down at something. I didn't think it was bad because I was ready for rock and raw. I was ready for barrel rolls. World War II kind of, yeah, we won't go in the counter free. There's a guy playing harmonica. Dennis Miller.

Dennis used to say, we got a little light choppy. or dirty air? Those are ways of saying it's going to get bad. But I'd rather hear it tamped down like that. A little bit of dirty air coming up. Dirty air. Peter Zincledge told me that he said that he is a pilot in his family. And he said that just to put your mind that he says,

something bad's going to happen, it's after takeoff. Like, you know, once you're in the air, you're good. Landing it is a lot of, you know, comparing the risk. And if you think of, you know, air chop as like skipping. a stone on water. You know, it's not. That's not as bad. So you give yourself a mental image.

Well, I heard two minutes. Like, it's probably a million to one. When you take off, it's 10 million to one after two minutes. So I just count backwards. Oh, and take deep breaths. And then we get to 120 seconds, which would be two minutes, right? Yeah. What about the landing?

metric minutes? Is the landing more dangerous than the takeoff? Oh, God. It depends on the weather. I don't know. Well, the takeoff proves the thesis that the thing's going to fly again. Okay. Yeah.

Because, you know. They do stuff like, oh, we only got one engine. You're like, yeah. Yeah, I don't like that. I flew on an A380 once out of Paris. A380. A380. It's a shopping center with an engine.

You know, it's just so fucking big. A bowling alley. So we go on up in the, my wife and I go out and we're first class. Whoops. And we meet Maurice Strave. Valier, if you know the reference. The pilot. We may not be taking off today.

We have a little engine for a rom. So anyway, so we did go. I was kind of nervous. The exact same flight, seven days later, lost an engine, emergency landed in Greenland. Wow. They interviewed the French guy. It was a motherfucker. I'm so punchy.

I can't even. It's Brendan, right? It's Brendan. One thing I wanted to say to you because I was looking at some of the comments on the trailer and someone said, I'm so down for this. Brennaissance. Oh, you've seen this? Is it a meme?

I've been, is it a meme? I think it's painted on someone's sealing Sistine Chapel. Yeah, it's been, has it been around? People are saying it. People told me the other day, I want to see you make a comeback. I go, oh, am I gone? I was right. I've always been here, guys.

Jesus. Yeah, you just never really. know if you're in it. You don't really know where you are on the, no. I heard probably 10 times this week because just Cassie, where are you going? What are you doing? Well, I'm doing this podcast. I'm going to interview Brendan Frazier. Oh, really? Every single one. Every single one. Every single one. I love that guy. I don't know how they got to kind of memo or went to a meeting. But anyway, you know, I'm going to have to send him a jeez. He's an Oscar winner. It's very, it's difficult. It's a little intimidating. Is it intimidating? Come on. Not for you guys. You guys.

I'm still a doofus. It's definitely we don't have that many. I don't know. I'm kidding. But it's kind of, it's very cool. It's, it's an affirmation that you don't really understand what the, you know, protocol is until it happens to you.

And in, you know, the final analysis, I think it's just a way of me remembering how many, people helped me get to that place where you're even considered and then when it comes down to that envelope opening moment it could be anyone I mean any other you don't we don't know you know and and there's relief because you said something we know an answer you know and there's among you know in your category at least the year I was there we'd we'd been through a gauntlet of press and that's a lot of questioning. And all of that. And yeah,

that's your job. You should do that. But it takes a toll on what it does is just makes you know. It's a weird job. I mean, but you've become like, you know,

you know, you get a lot closer. You care for one another and you're pulling pretty job. Who is in your cadre? Who are your co-stars? Not that they're losers, but they did lose.

Oh, Bill Nye. And who is the first one? Oh, Bill Nye. Austin, Butler. Okay. Yeah. I like him, yeah. All great guys.

And you smoked them. But now when you... Not true. No, not true. It could have been by 1%. You don't know. It could have been like this. How were you crawling up to the Oscars like Golden Globes,

all the critics' choice? What was your batting ratio? Yeah. How are you doing? What are you doing? I'm just trying to remember. No, no, no. Colin was winning everything since Venice.

Or Colin? Other Colin. The other Colin. Hey? Colin. And she's of Inishering. For men of work? You can say it.

Oh, yeah, the banshees of insurance. I really committed. I just said it. I got it. I knew it's a lot of letters. No, I know you're calling me. Or men, what move? But you think it's Colin Farrell.

Colin Quinn. No. Just want to see how many collins you know. I know. I don't know that many. Colin Quinn. If it's not the guy from men at work, I'm out. I'm going to tap out on calling.

No, Colin from England. Ireland. Come on. That guy. You know that guy? Firth. Well, Colin Farrell. No, was it calling?

Yes. Did we already do it and we kept guessing? I mean, I guess it the first time you kept asking us. Listen, I saw that movie. We'll be right back. And I saw the whale. You did. Interesting.

Yeah. The banshees had no chance against the whale. No. The whale performance is like, it's supernatural. I mean, it's historic. Thanks, guys. I mean, it was just like insane. It was a lot of real hardcore rehearsal with Darren Aronovsky is the first to tell you that he would have been a baseball umpire if he wasn't a director because he's kind of guy sees everything he gets the last call he knows the play and he couldn't cast it right he saw you in some older movie and went ah that guy can do it what he said yeah yeah he had that intention to make the movie for a number of years I guess but when we met him

I was this formidable director and if you're, he's got eyes that are kind of like you, very kind behind, you know, formidable frames. You're looking at Dana. Come on. I go to go anywhere

to go. Get your facts straight. Jack goes straight or hormones. Joe Biden. Joe Biden. Someone happens. Someone had to do. He goes into it. He's Clark Kent and Joe Biden. Takes him off. But yeah, is he kind of considered Is he a taskmaster in a way, but brilliant, Darren?

I mean, I don't know, but he's... He has high standards, and he... The thing about him is that he does get the ideas from the best... He calls every... You know, he gets everyone's opinion. He's diplomatic. He's a very good leader. Like, he credits right away with whomever came up with whatever suggestion to answer,

you know, what to submit. But he's also quick to say, no, that's not right. And he's always, he's always correct. Like, he asked that from any department, more to make up, all that. He knows the answer. And he has a real spontaneity and a confidence to him. Like, if you see something, Arsaint is playing out, he'll change the order of the coverage to capture a performance from an actor from a different angle just automatically because he saw it.

It's working. Yeah, he saw that. So he'll turn the room around. to get that now. Yeah. And he's, uh, I think,

I think he's one of, among the directors who we admire who have, um, courage, who kind of fear no art in a way, you know, they, and having courage doesn't mean,

you know, you're not challenged or, you're fearless or something like that. But he, he, he does take risks. And I think that's where, you know,

big rewards comes up. Does he kind of work with less location? so he has that ability to kind of flip the camera. It's not like we're going to the beach now. Well, you had a less location. In the case of that film, The Whale, it was in one room, right? Literally in one room. Yeah, it was Charlie's apartment.

And, you know, it was in 20. It was almost like a stage play in that sense that you could really get intimate with the scenes. The way it felt. Well, it was written by as a stage play. Yeah, and adapted for the screen. Yeah, Dana. By Sam Hunter. Let me look at my notes.

I knew that. No, is it better to have like a director? You've had a lot of directors. We've all had a lot of directors. And I think it's better when, because there's ultimately a final say. So, which makes the system work,

you know, when everyone pitches in, you give your ideas. I'm in these movies. You give your ideas. But someone's going to make the final call. Sometimes they take your suggestion. But ultimately it's better

when you think they're really good because it's easier to take when they make the final call. Because some movies, you don't down deep think they're any good. And then you go, So this is what we're going with. Okay.

And then you kind of go and knowing, I don't think this is right. And that's a tricky situation. But luckily you got this guy. And you probably work with better and better guys all the time. They're all good in their own way. There are some directors who, I don't understand their direction.

I will smile and nod. Yeah. And then I'll try to get what they said. You don't even know. And then after, yes, that was it. And you're like, I had no idea what you told me to do. I did the same thing. I know. You try, you go, I think this is what they mean.

I've done that where they go, nope, nope, and then yep. Then you go, I don't know what happened. Brought to you by Apple Card. Apple Card users get 2% daily cash back on purchases made in store and online, whether it's for big ticket items or everyday purchases when they use their Apple Card with Apple Pay. Now that's a benefit that's just too good to pass up. could be earning 2% daily cashback when you use your Apple card with Apple Pay to buy turmeric for your signature curry, 2% back on flights to visit the family in Tucson, and even 2%

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slash benefits I still think if you had this experience with a director where they're sort of allowing you to discover it while you're filming or you have those moments where you're doing it for the very first time

like Woody Allen or something or Clint Eastwood they'll kind of huddle you know which you could go to the end and then they just go in and they start doing it you know, have you had an experience like that? You'll probably be good at that. I'll make a call. I think I'm a first-take, best-take kind of guy.

Yeah. Okay, well, there you go. I think, or early ones. Once I started doing too much, then then gilding the lily. So Kubrick would have been a nightmare for you. It would have been a long day. Even Fenture.

They say that, I'm like, I would not envy being 100 takes. Like some people brag. Like Tom Cruise, like we did 100 takes to get it right. And I go, how bad is everyone? You can't get it in 50? Yeah. But things are different now considering that it's digital, right?

That's the difference. Cameras are like flipping on a light switch. You know, you just leave on all time. And then they kind of, we used to say, you know, we'll fix it in post or, you know, in the box right now, overnight even. Yeah, digital. So it takes it longer and longer. There isn't the rhythm of changing. Sorry to interrupt, but I kind of like you sometimes.

If you're comedians, you like to improvise. So digital was revolutionary for people like Will Farrell, you know, Adam McCabe just put the camera on him for like 10 minutes. And Will would just throw a line. He'd do what he does. And pick the best one. Right. And that can also be prohibitive in a sense that. Too much time.

Too much time. Yeah. And you feel like you are in almost, you know, a theatrical sort of venue when it's inherently, you know, cinema for, you know, a smaller size. performance. So, you know, we're not asking a whole play scene. But then sometimes there's pros and cons, of course. I mean, the physical act of taking magazines of film off the top of the camera and having the rhythm of, okay, well, they got to reload. That means I can breathe for a second. Yeah. Checking with the whatever. Have a chat about this, talk to the camera guy. Now, you know, a whole new generation, it's come of age in a period where it's ubiquitous and

and constant and it gives you a sense of needing to be on all the time. Yeah. It's open-ended. It's not really... There's an interesting thing when this happens when you're shooting and then they're doing more and more takes. And if you even feel like you're getting it right, maybe they're looking for something else. And then I start changing my performance because I go, we're not moving on, so I'm going to

try different things. And sometimes when they move on, I'm thinking... the early ones were better. You know, I think maybe they're looking for someone else's coverage. They go, oh, that was better. And I'm like, well, now I'm stuck in mind that I didn't love. These things is inside baseball. But you know what I mean?

Like you go, I'm just changing because we're not moving on. So I'm tweaking and trying to try anything else to feel like it hit. And then sometimes the one, they go, got it. And you go, wait. And then you have your own inner critic going, you know, 10 minutes later. oh I should have. I could have. That's the worst when you move on.

And wait, and then you've got to feel like you're going to run up the escalator and get to the top. I just want to do one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Since you did, you know, big comedies or, you know, and then you've done real drama. Does they scare you equally or it's like, what's the most frightening for?

Because I think just being very vulnerable on a set would be harder than comedy in some ways. I'm not, I'll shoot you straight, Dana. I always feel like someone's going to walk in the door and hand me a dish towel and say, Fraser, get back to the, you know, I, it just, it's in me. I know, sure. So even after the Oscar, you didn't kind of affect you a little bit, not cocky, but a little bit, I must be doing something right.

Well, I got the, yeah, I mean, like, well, in that case, I do know that with the whale, I did everything that I humanly possibly could. It was 2022. We all thought we were going to die tomorrow anyway because COVID. It was existential threat for everyone. Actors are, you know, ideally, supposed to do this like it's the first and last time you ever will. So, you know, leave it everything.

Give it everything you got. That's right for the part. When I can remember feeling like I had everything to prove at that time in my career. And if the film didn't land with an audience or it was not received in a favorable way, you know, with everyone has best hopes for their work, then I would have just taken it straight up, no trace, or did that, okay, I really don't know what I'm doing

because I was all out of moves. Yeah. I didn't have any other ones. So that really did exhaust what was in my, repertoire at that time. And so it's nice that it was well received and that it was awarded and given all this recognition, but it is not because of anything that I specifically did. It was Hong Chow, it was Sadie Sink. It was Darren. Say it was good in that, yeah. I think it's also, you get in a place where you go, I hope this is the one that works because it feels like to get

the elements to come together, forget, you know, you got the cast and the director and the script. And And you go, and the editing and the promotion, and the trailer. And you go, so far we're doing good. I've seen the final product. We just got to get people to see it. And a lot of movies, the wheels go off earlier. And you're like, I don't think this is the one. I don't think this is going to hit it on all cylinders.

And then there's that X factor of who knows what audiences, where they are culturally in their headspace. You hit it at the right time. What do they need to see? What do they want to feel more about? You know, we all go through these sort of. of culture, right? What you think about the way they... That's true.

Yeah, as opposed to it with comedy, it really, there was, you know, tropic thunder and the hangover movies like that. Only till recently there was an R-rated comedy kind of felt like it was from the 90s, a brief run at the box office. I was called Bus Boys,

that David made. It was very quick run. It's great. I did a movie. But it was... Low-budge movie. It was post any kind of woke stuff. It's politically politically incorrect.

Yeah. Yeah. Which brings me to this question, Brent. Yeah. Is it too late for you to be in Bus Boys? No, is it, no, when you did... I did answer the call back in the day. Oh, you came.

Oh, I love it. That was Sam Weissman, right? Because he did Tarzan, right? George of the Jungle, yeah. What did you say? George is the Jungle. It was George of the Jungle. You played Tarzan.

Tarzan Farrell. Feltzian-Farrell. Based on Tarzan. From the cartoon. So you've had quite arranged, man. You do. Let's just say some comedies. Then you get really deep all the way of the whale.

You did a rental family, which was a very nice, feel-good movie. Now, there's sort of a series. 88 on Rotten Tomatoes. Not bad, right? 88. Yeah. An incredibly cool. That's, I got 88 with all mine combined.

I read a review. It was 86. Well, I'll call it later. I read a review. It said, Oscar worthy. This is for them. Really? Yeah.

Possibly. if, you know, an audience's headspace was in a place where it needed to hear that kind of story or appreciate it. In the case of Randall family, it's a movie about a guy who is in a country that is not his own and the country's not in his United States and he hasn't been there for about seven or eight years. I mean, you figure out why did he leave America? Yeah, who is this guy? Who is this guy? And what was it that he doesn't want to go back to? Well, you know, what's the temperature in America today?

That's a whole other conversation, right? But he finds himself in a new place, and he's extraordinarily lonely in one of the busiest cities of the world. Yeah. And is realizing that, yeah, he's going to die a lonely man with father issues of his own. If he doesn't have some sort of sense of connection with people that he can't get through his acting career, because let's face it, he's not a very good one. And his big gig was Mr. Clearbright man in the toothpaste commercial. And, you know, and that's a trope.

It is. You know, if you've ever been, you've been in Tokyo, you see, there's mascot culture is huge. Yeah. And expats taking those jobs are plastered all over advertising everywhere in Japan. And it's still not enough. And once he stops. performing, you know, in this sort of buffoonish clownish way and is able to make proper connections with people in a meaningful way when he's not, you know, performing for a camera,

but instead he's working at a service industry to give companionship to people who are in a word desperate for authenticity. It's a good premise. And if you know, that can help. It does. Sometimes it can't. And that's where this film really lives. What are those thorny questions about standing in as surrogates in people's lives?

Well, is it kind of fun playing an actor who ends up acting? Like he's pretending to be the long lost father or whatever. He goes on. He... So the guy you're playing is also pretending. It's a performance of a performance. You're right. Until the logarithm gets a little bit too confusing.

And he just realizes I'm going to stop doing that and jump in with both feet and just be and then learn, of course, that he indeed is actually being. Is there anything like that in Japan? Yes. It's a business model that existed since the 80s. I did not know. Wow. That's why it's a great idea.

And then, yeah. I saw a scene with you and this young girl and she was. Shannon Gorman. She was nine years old, never acted before. She was nine? Oh, she was good. She's 12, almost 13 now before. No, well, she's nine years old.

I mean she was a little kid. It was perfect. She was been around the block by the time. She should be a little worn out by nine. It's a couple sitcoms. That was. So she was really good, right? There is something about the purity of a kid, you know.

Maybe not overthinking. When you're casting a kid, you're also casting their parents. Yeah. You know? How were they? Terrific. Oh, good. I mean, just terrific.

Supportive. Her mother is Japanese. Her father is Irish. So, I mean, she fit the bill to a tea. She was naturally gregarious and interested in pleasing the grownups and performing on her own. So, you know, it fits. the criteria perfectly. And we

quickly learned we had to stop rehearsing with her because she hadn't acted before she was learning kids or sponges, right? You know, and we didn't want her playing her game in a locker room. So just get her on set. Shoot it. Captured lightning in a bottle, you know?

I liked it. This, this, uh, Hikari was that the director? Yeah, that's right. And is Hikari someone who you knew something they did or you just The script is the part that got you. The script was first. I did not know her. I met her, of course, but that was just before the strike. We had to wait for a year.

She and her writing part, or Stephen Blahoot, were in Tokyo trapped there during the lockdown. And he's an American, and he was looking for a job. And he was going through, like, classifieds. And he saw an advertisement looking. for, you know, rental boyfriend or rental. You know, that sounds a little hokey and a little dodgy in some ways. Those services exist. Sure, sure.

And he said, what's this? He asked her, she said, I'm Japanese. I don't know what this is. And that's how they started researching and finding out. Interesting. Well, the fact that's real is even better. And what's this latest one? I'm sorry.

It's called pressure. Yes. I'm very excited to see. Are you really? Honest to God, I saw, because. Because it gave me vibes of the Churchill movie with Gary Oldman. Focus features, yeah, that's what they do. Yeah, and I love that movie.

I've seen it probably five times. My wife and I'll visit it every once in a while. But this one, knowing a little bit about it, you know, and how intense the weather thing was and how rudimentary our weather thing was. So how did this come to you? And I want to just know what you, you're going to play Dwight D.I. Eisenhower. I mean, at first you kind of go, okay. And then what do you do?

Yeah, and tell the crowd a little bit about what it's about. Sure, yeah. Well, pressure is the weekend before the D-Day invasion, which was, this history tells us, Tuesday, June 6th, 1944. I didn't know that the date originally was Monday, June 5th, 1984. Larges amphibious attack. 300,000 troops in a morning ever. It's the biggest location detail, logistical. New equipment never been done in battle before.

Early call sheet for extras. Exactly. We got to get there at 2 a.m. We've got to start shooting at 6. Well, one of the most indelible moments of my cinematic life has seen the longest day with my dad. when I was like eight. And the Germans are like,

shaz divit, like that, you know, they don't think there's any attack coming. And then he goes, oh, right, though. And you see like a million ships. Yes. And as a kid, I was like, holy. That weekend, of course,

they factored in everything that goes into an invasion. And certainly, meteorology and the weather plays a huge part. That's another combatant, essentially. And it was for the efforts of a meteorologist named Skag, who was courageous enough to stand up and tell everyone almost Cassandra, like you need to heed the warning that there is an inbound storm. And delay this.

Like a big storm. A big six-foot waves. Air Force couldn't hit targets, landing craft, and those were dodgy enough to begin with. Many of them didn't make it under good circumstances. And he said, you have to take this seriously. And they did delay, actually. It was going to be later.

I think it was the 18th. It was the soonest they could do it, considering the phases of the moon, the amount of reflected light to attack, the time. All those. The times. Yeah.

Everything. And you're the deciding. You're the guy that decides. Pardon? You're the guy that decides. Well, he had the final word. You know, he was, Ardenhauer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was the last word.

Yeah. And the final word. And the responsibility was his and his alone. And he took it. He did. I mean, he's, as I studied and learned, And he wrote a letter in advance of a response to whatever the outcome of the invasion would be in victory and one that was in defeat.

And the one in victory was the one that we know of. But he cared for the troops intensely. That's, I mean, no secret. He definitely didn't have, we will get boots on the beach no matter what. They knew they were going to go and have a bare-knuckle fight with a chainsaw as it was already. But he didn't want there to be the, he wanted the fewest reasons for people, for his soldiers to prevail, knowing that there's an estimated 75% casualty. anticipation. That's on a good day.

Under those circumstances. Whoa, whoa, whoa. We can talk about it and hearing you say that and seeing you get a little emotional. It is sort of like hard for us to fathom his responsibility. Sending people. That task. Those young men that happen to be 18 or 19 or 20 or 21 on those landing craft, you know, it's just, you know, we all saw a saving private Ryan, which was sort of. It's an anthem for the genre.

Yes, there are battle sequences to put us in the right place that are in the film pressure because they're required. But also pressure takes advantage of archival footage, documentary footage, that we're all pretty familiar with. We'll watch the History Channel growing up. But that imagery was actually a dupe of a dupe of a deep of a And so Anthony Amaris, director, went to the source and he up-reszed the originals. And, you know, whatever our feelings about, so, you know, guardrails around CG, or AI, which was formerly CGI, you know.

And got some fucking up-res going. It does give you a feeling of authenticity when. It's also a different eyes you're seeing it because it's very, It is. Ken Burns film was on the First World War was inspiration for this. And in that one, you can see soldiers' breath. You can, you can, they brought in lip readers and to learn that somebody in the trench of us going, oh, the sergeant, he's lost, we're going to, you know, or they're swearing at each other, who took my boots, or whatever it is. You can, and it gives such reality to, and, and, you know, and, And the way that we see the footage in the film pressure, it seriously looks like it was shot, you know, last week on a news broadcast. But it's the real thing. You probably wouldn't have used it if it wasn't looking up to snuff anyway. Well, that too.

And also, hey, it saved a lot of money because a lot of that gets recreated and, you know, to various. Big, big levels of success. Things to recreate, yeah. Right. Yeah, Charm Hess and Chuck, he told me. They couldn't make Ben-Hur again. And they tried maybe 15 years ago because of the real chariots. And if it's 1,000 people, it's actually 1,000 extras, 2,000 extras.

It's just so vast. But we'll see where AI goes. But you're trying to get it connected to you can't tell it. It's not a real guy on a horse running and stuff. I guess it's happening real time. When we don't see the construction lines around the images, Our brains are satisfied. I mean, you know, we, gentlemen, we live in an age now where the next generation has had their lobe trained by digital imagery to recognize what smacks of authenticity and what does not, just automatically by virtue of looking at phones in their hands since childhood.

And I didn't, we had something completely different. I mean, we can all remember looking at CGI heavy movies in the 90s and the 80s and, you know, giving a pass to really funny looking effects. But they all had their certain charm at that time, too. I can tell what's written on. The first Jurassic Park is the best I saw. First Jurassic Park. First Jurassic Park. Well, Spielberg.

The Dinosaur. Was it when he jumped at the seat? The rector who jumped? I jumped when I saw that film, the one they're in the kitchen and the dinosaur, they're trying to climb up. think through a hatch in the ceiling and the point of view is down and the raptor comes in looks up and jumps and you go ah booze garrow i think so i remember they brought spielberg there's five of them now a thing about the movie before they did it and what convinced him was they showed him what the dinosaurs would look at and he watched and he goes oh shit this is this is better than

i thought let's do it wow if they can look like this we can do the movie around this you know which they did and it and it worked i have some trivia for so anyway so the the The film really centers on this incredible decision that lands on Dwight D. Eisenhower's head. Well, take into consideration in 1944 that meteorology was kind of just looking out the window. Yeah. Wasn't it? No, literally, right? How incidental of a person.

It's actually raining out here in the North Sea and then you try to extrapolate? Yes. What made the gentleman and the meteorologist special? Well, the Americans, as depicted in the film, were reliant on analog. So they went off of records. If the Farmer's Almanac said in 1912 that it didn't rain, and it won't rain today. Wow.

Farmers Almanac doesn't get enough props. I mean, I think they've been replaced. A million men are ready to go. Let's see what farmers are out on the matter. When did the crops grow last year? It's just really look out. It's cloudy.

Like you do all growing up, you're like, oh, it's raining. This is very less nestment from WKRP. Or a barometer. Wouldn't he like a, and he would. To give a report from the helicopter? Oh, that's right, yeah. Blessness.

That was his big move. Well, you know, and using science is essential, which is the point of the film, to say, hey, give me the data. So weather balloons and barometric readings and all of that are the collision of ideology and which one will prevail and which is the, you know, tried and true method and which is the obvious difference. the North African campaign had pretty dry conditions. So it was safe to say, hey, it's not going to rain tomorrow. But in Northern Europe, there's 10 different weather source systems that come through every hour. And we really take it for granted in a manner of speaking. You know, when our airplane starts chopping up and down.

It says here, you know. So weather boy comes in and starts saying, hey, I don't think you guys should go. I like that anyone even listen to this guy. You know, that's, to a certain extent, and that is dramatized. Because it's, look, face it, it's a movie. But he didn't show up really at the last minute and go, hold the phone. Yeah. He had been.

There's some grumblings, I'm sure. There was dissent. And so that's the point of the film is what were the conversations in the 72 hours or so leading up to it? And what really was at stake? And the weather was just, I mean, imagine the punch list of things to do. That was just one item. Right. And you're going to stop it for that.

And you're like, this sounds crazy. But he's probably like, when you see in the trailer, it's like two storms coming. It's like the perfect storm with Plooney. You go, this is going to be worse than you guys think. Don't go. And then you go, I've been in storms. And you go, well, if it's this bad, that will make it go from 75% and effective. Yes.

I did not know that. And I did not know this about the weather delay when D-Day was, you know. taught to us. What Stagg did was he did accurately predict that there was a break in that storm. That was a big thing, right? 12, 14 hours, something like that. And if they were going to go, go then. Otherwise, they would have to wait until the 18th.

And the Germans would know a whole other reasons why it would have been calamity. So if you think about it again now, okay, this thing is delayed. We're not going to go on Monday. We're going to go on Tuesday. All right. We're already at sea. You're going to wait for one storm to pass.

Yeah. A lot of them are already at sea. And the law had to turn back, gas up again, you know. And it's not like you're rerouting your FedEx package delivery here. And that they did go during that narrow window of opportunity. made the Germans think they'd be crazy to attack in weather like this. So they really did catch them unawares in that regard. I mean, the Germans were rooted in, of course.

And was there some red herring like the Germans thought they were coming some other way? Oh, misinformation was used so many ways. But yeah, they were convinced that they would be attacking from Sherborg. But they had been misdirected with all kinds of, you know, operatives. I love that about World War II. And that's the fascination. of fake planes from afar that are made a cardboard or whatever. Inflatable tanks.

Yeah. And the parachuting little men coming down. You'll see those in this film. Oh, good. And with the clickers? Just one of, one of six, I don't know if you know this thing. One of six.

One of six paratroopers landed in the right place. Just one of six. This is trivia. I'm just going to take a couple of things. I just want to ask some questions about getting into Dwight D. Eisenhower. and trying to get, because like into forming whatever you were going to bring to it. Because I was reading about him today, and he was, it's interesting in any kind of hierarchy, how he's going around, going around, then he becomes the guy at a given point.

He deals with Patton later on at Churchill. And of course, Damien Lewis plays Monty. That's a great, he's, I love seeing him in a movie. So what was your process? Were you terrified? or like, I'm playing, do I do I get us now? No, no, I was daunted, absolutely. And when Anthony said on a call that I got the offer, I said, me?

Like, I mean, why? Well, you look just like. But do I? I don't know. I didn't, it's not the first thing I would think of. Yeah. I'm like, okay, yeah, the hair. All right.

Well, you know, I could probably. I just didn't. I didn't. And then he said, sent me two photographs alongside myself. And I went, oh, hang on. Hang on. We're about the same age at the time. I'm 57, and he was, I think, 54 at that time in his life.

And we did have similar features. I am taller than he was. I have a much different build that he does. He was eating, like everyone, rations at that time. I knew that my body type, as it is, kind of what you see is what you get. So I couldn't will myself into looking like the shape of another human being that I'm not reductively, you know, as opposed to what I did in the whale, which is the other way around.

So I had to find a way, honestly, to just give myself a break and alleviate the, I have to give a facsimile performance. Because honestly, I'm not the kind of actor who knows how to do that. I'm not, there are those who are great. Gary Oldman, fantastic. Disappear, yeah. That was Churchill. I don't know how many people really know how I talked.

I know he's president in the 50s, but he didn't seem to have a big hook, you know, or a weird accent or like, you know. It was from Kansas. Yeah, Midwestern. Abilene, he graduated, you know, top of his class. He wanted to go into the first war, but the timing was he graduated and the war was over. So for the next 40 or so years of his career, he never fired a shot in anger, never was fired at in battle. He was an excellent strategist, excellent diplomat.

He was a product of his time, as everyone was. And I tried to dismiss the things that, you know, ethically morically didn't, don't concur with. However, that's not my job. Different time. But he was prescient in the same. sense that he really cared about partnering with an enemy rather than rubbing their nose in it, hence, NATO, hence, the beginnings of civil rights, NASA, you know, he. Yeah, he was part of a lot of things.

Yes, he was a leader. And he didn't demand respect. He commanded it because he earned it for the sincerity and the truth that he brought to how he did his job. Everybody wanted to follow him. It is interesting, you know, a brain trust, if it's a military one, even in Hollywood movies, you're around a table and you're discussing an idea. and then you go person to person. So was Dwight the kind of mic drop guy?

Like people were going, we should do this, we should do that. Hey guys, this is what I think. My take is that he was kind of like Darren Aeronovsky and that he heard everyone's opinion. Whether he agreed with it or not, he went around the room. And the good idea was the good idea that we all, and he knew what it was, but he did hear from everyone. And he gave credit right away for where it came from.

So, I mean, this is, you know, this is, this is, this is not sitting around a table in Hollywood somewhere. This was, you know, headquarters of this Supreme. So the fly on the wall aspect of being in the room to see what, did I say. Thanks for the pluck. That's the name of the podcast. Oh, excellent. That's right. The fly on the wall point of view.

It's the first time. when saying it is is what makes this movie because you get to see what really would they have had been talking about yeah who are the people when you know we know we know you're polite and everything you're nice but what do you really think and that's how anthony directed this movie and it you know and i was i expressed a little bit of consternation about long takes and all that but he definitely had a method where we did very long repeated ones, reset, but working in England with British actors, they all come from a grand tradition.

Yes. And you'd be surprised how much you find yourself upping your game when you're surrounded by incredible actors. So long takes like that. The camera's moving around and goes elsewhere and you've got to stay in character. Yeah. Comes back around. Yeah.

Yeah. You're talking about that like with movement or just even regular? There were two, yeah, it's like two or three cameras depending on. Are there cameras going at all times like a couple? There was always at least triple or double. Whoa. You think that speeds it up, you think? You'd be surprised, right?

I can go slow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I have a trivia for you. Another one. Is it true? Four packs of camel cigarettes for Eisenhower every day. Filterless. Did you ever hear that?

I did. Oh, yeah. Not that prescient on the cancer. Kay Somersby, his left arm, his right arm, his girl Friday would ration them to him. You could get four and six a day or something like that. Because yes, and he drank pots and pots of coffee. Did they ever talk about sports or anything like that would be in the movie, like they're trying to like, just get their mind off what's going.

Does anyone, like, what's going on at the time in the world, or is it all just about the war? I like to talk about fishing. Oh, he did? Okay. That's what you talked about, fly fishing. So, like, calm them down. Like, just talk about anything else. And he played bridge.

Yeah, of course. And he organized baseball, football leagues and his youth. Okay. I mean, he was a team player. They were very famous photographs before the airborne take off. And you look at these pictures and you think, you know, like three and five of these guys, they're not going to come back.

Oh, that's so horrible. And you see him shaking hands with them, and they're talking about fly fishing is what they're doing. He was just a regular guy, and it wasn't an affectation. I mean, he was the boss, definitely. He wore those four stars on his shoulder. And what's the quote?

Like, they weighed a ton of piece, is what someone said of him. Yeah, I see. Yeah, because you think of Montgomery and Patton has been very theatrical. the way they're presented in really big egos. In Eisenhower, at least he was presented as kind of a steady hand, that like you said, created all this respect.

And there was, you know, East Coast, West Coast, you know, Americans and the Yanks and the Brits. You know, you do it your way. We do it our way. We work together. Here come the Americans again. You know, that's all, and that's appropriate. That's right. But there's no room for any kind of like, you know,

sociopathic approach when when when the stakes are this high you know we'll get boots on the ground no matter what leave it to me was the uh often account of of Montgomery's approach to it but he of course had been in battles many many more and he had you know a real ego about you're the new guy here like right but you're also my boss and yes there was friction of to have fair. Was that fun? Did you have some, you know, blow-ups with Damien Lewis playing Montgomery versus Eisenhower or scenes where you're arguing and yelling? Oh, we butt heads. I think when you can tell it's around the office, but the house that they were in kind of, in a way they've been locked there for weeks. They weren't allowed to come and go for, you know, private secrecy reasons. And, you know,

it must have been in one way, like, you know, some really weird summer camp for the, them. And I consisted on sleeping out in a tent with the men. And that was also because they didn't want him in the building in case it got bombed, but a target, you know. But yeah, there's, you know, that headbutting and who's in charge here and who's pulling rank is certainly an aspect of it. Montgomery was avidly anti-smoking. And, you know, at that time, it was kind of like, astonishing as someone, you would ask someone to put their cigarette out, right? Right, yeah, totally. It was ubiquitous.

And I think that Ike would comply, but you know that it was like an issue around the office that day. For sure. The balls are someone telling you to put your cigarette out. Yeah. Do you have a question? Of course I do. Because I like to ask. There's, you know this movie The Mummy, right?

Sure. Now. Did you... It's a rap, right? Is there another movie? Is there maybe a Mummy 4? Yes. More than maybe?

Did we get a banger here? No, I think I heard that. Has it been announced? Yeah. Oh, really? Try not to smile. You can smile. Did you do it yet?

Is that exciting to go back? Yes. That's great. Now we hear it. I'm looking forward to it. Well, I've seen a smile. I can't even believe it. You're holding this.

Don't you get Yahoo! news? I mean, my gosh. No, but I'm so happy. Everyone, you know. Me too. And when was the last mommy that you did? The last one? The, yeah. The third one was in China. It was the year that 2007, that year of the rain, 2009, 2009, Reagan emperor or something like that? Yeah. NBC had the rights to broadcast the Olympics and so they went, oh, I got it. Let's put the mummy in China. Is Tom Cruise going to do a cameo in this mummy? Not to my knowledge. Not to my knowledge. Okay. Oh, did he do the mummy?

Was he a mommy or something? He did one kind of... Correct. He did do a mummy. Yes, he did. Stay in your lane, Tom. Jeez, Louise. And he flew in on a F-15 and attacked the mummy, right?

It was more of an AC130 kind of looking thing. Oh. I like Tom Cruise because he hangs off things. He holds his breath for a half hour. I mean, you just got to go, I will watch this guy. He's risking his life to entertain me. Hold my breath. And how can I just...

jump off the plane. And is he really running that fast? That's amazing. But yeah. Faster than me these days. He can run fast. So the mommy, I'm so excited about that, you know? Me too.

I was going to ask you a question because I asked Chris Rock the other day. I thought it was interesting. Mailbox money, which thing that you've done, you know, checks residuals or whatever, which thing that you've done pays you the most? The most. Yeah. The least is more interesting, isn't it? Well, that's how good.

That's that better. What's the tiniest? Who's the cheapest? That's right. Rock likes to talk about what people erred and make. What? I do too. Yeah.

He's very into that. He's got a yacht. Yeah. I like boats. I like boats. He calls him a 500 feet long. He's been on everyone's boat, by the way. He loves it.

Loves it. So what's your tiniest residual check? My tiniest residual check? I still, I got one the other day from a film called Glory Days that Ben Affleck was in, it was in the 90s. Really young Ben Affleck. Yes. And I wrote a bus in it for one day, morning, and I talked to someone else.

I will be honest to say, I never saw that movie. But I still get like a, you know, a 13 cent check. 13 cents. Go to residuals. Yeah. You've been residuals? Hey, man. It all adds up.

A bar. They're stapled up on the wall, right? If they're under a dollar, you get a free drink. And they're all under. The ones I get from whatever. But Mommy, it's nice when you just get one out of the blue. I get stuff from just shoot me probably, that old sitcom. Yeah, Mike, let's talk to him a couple months ago.

We're doing two more Shrek. That's awesome. Oh, Jesus. I just think this is a full circle moment because last time you're on, We talked about the peak stardom and then injuries and all that, you know, Dark Side of the Moon thing, then the whale. And now this, you know, in the other movie, these are kind of serious acting things. And now you're a full circle doing a mummy again.

And you look great. Thank you. Mommies are fun. That's just kind of cool, right? I'm looking forward to this. I mean, because I, you got beat out. Hollywood beat the shit out of you for a while, you know, and I love that. I beat it back.

over. Now it's not only the Oscar, it's also the tent pole, billion dollar potential movie. People have been wanting another one for 20, what, five, four years. I've been hearing it. I go to fan conventions and I'm serious. People show up dressed in costume like Evelyn Carnahan, Rachel Vise's character. There's Rick O'Connell's, you know, than me that come through to get an autograph. I'm not kidding. There are, I lost count of the number of young women who, who I've met who have said, I'm an Egyptologist, I am an archaeologist, I am a historian.

I have studied ancient languages because they saw the mummy. And it gave them so much dopamine when they were young and they went, that's what I want to do. And they pursued it. I mean, it was a real catalyst of springboard. And Rachel does a good job. I mean, so you guys go.

back and forth and that has to work and it worked and so what was the problem for 20 years? I've missed that part. What? The rights went somewhere else or what happened for the last 20 years about not doing that? Oh, um, going back to 2007 actually. Well, uh, I don't know if we break it down. Um, the- Well, they made three. Usually things are trilogies. Yeah. The third one, um, it's, it's kind of, it's sort of the problem child. Oh. Okay. Um, okay. Which.

had the strange elements that the audience were like, you know, you're giving me something that I don't. You're telling me it's one thing and it's kind of not. You got away from what people like. I hate that. We can't do that. We did it in the other movie. They want to see something new. And then it's like, you can't reinvent the wheel.

No, you want it. If you want, you eat an Oreo, you want that cookie. Yeah. It sounds like that tastes like that. You want, you want the band to get back together, which is what we are going to do. And the band is back together. Yes, we're getting the band back together. Full tilt.

Right. Look, everyone's been approached. I hope they're available. Yeah. If I'm around, can you wrap me up and just have me come out of you like that as an actress? If I'm just in town, I don't need to be seen. I mean, you know, JJ. But you got to make a movie that's fun.

You know, you got to make a movie. It's fine. And there's roller coasters of the mummy at Universal and here in Hollywood. That's right. And it's a roller coaster ride of a movie, you know? And that's what people want. They want to get thrilled. They want to have a little boo scare.

They don't really want to feel terrified. Like, they didn't really just witness a hot. homicide or something, you know, on screen. Right. And they want to come back and do it again. This is because some of the younger people who saw that movie then, now they have kids that they know that convinced them, for sure. And the kids will be blown away and grow up to be archaeologists.

But were you injured on one of those? What was the movie you got injured on? Oh, I got. I'm just wondering about this one. Are you going to be more careful? The first one I got choked out on day three or four from a noose. That's crazy. Oh, that's right.

You taught us. I've talked about this ad nauseum. I know, but I mean, I'm only using his. context for this movie now, are they going to choke you out again? Don't let him. That's not a bad idea, actually. We should. You need a good story.

I have a brother-in-joke. Let's joke. It looks like you. He's very athletic. If you need a stunt double, just cut. Brendan, go to your trailer. Now we'll hang this guy. I'll be the first to say, bro, you're going to be great in this shot.

You're going to be good. Well, are you going to have to run through tunnels and are you going to have to, are you going to really train for this? or you're just fine what you are. You're looking at a work in progress right now. I'm doing my best.

My first point when I saw you is that you looked fit. Oh, thanks. I'm trying to get my gear together here and I got some time. How long have you got? It's like 67, like 80 days or something like that? 80 days?

You go around the world in that amount of time. I know. Yeah. I tried to make that movie. That's another story. I think it's nice that you go to do because it's comedic. So it's good that I was going to say earlier,

you're doing these comedies, you do these dramas all the way to an Oscar. And these last two are, you know, I think it was lighter on rental family. And then pressure sounds like there's a lot of pressure. It's a new slapper. But just to go back to you're good at being light and funny.

And I think the mummy has a lot of that. Let's be hopeful. It has a tone of what it does, the mummy. It's not slapstick. It's funny. But it's also for kids of a certain age, it's kind of cool. Yeah, it's cool and it looks good. And it's nostalgia to a generation in its own right now, too.

With AI, could Mike and I make another Wayne's World? Yes. Look, just take this out, this down this year. Why bother? We should have Wayne's World come and meet. Wayne's World meets the mummy. You know, like, will you play the nemesis or if we do a Wayne's World? Way's World.

I'd be glad to. Yeah. You're the ghost of Dwight D. Eisenhower. I said, Hairbrain. That was another movie I made that. Airheads is what I'm saying. Airhead.

With Adam Sandler. Habathoo. Yeah. Bushammy. You brought him to show business. I think it's the other way around. Come on. I'm so happy to hear about the mummy.

That's how I met Farley. I saw Airheads there. I saw Airheads at that 60th. Street won over by Columbus Square. That theater we were doing SNL. It was fun. Yeah. At the time, though, people were like, no, no, no, I don't get it. Because it was too contemporary.

It was like, now it's nostalgia. Now at the fan conventions, people show up in Chaz Darby outfits. Ah, yeah. I signed a lot of. What was Farley? Is security guard? Yes, he was. Why, you can't go here.

Hey, better get up. He was one in Wainsworth. Huh? He was one in Wainty. Yeah, or two? Or one? He pulled the guy's nipple ring off in the airhead. An airhead did?

How funny. He was, I think, was Chris had seen it too where I was doing, I was just talking casually and then occasionally I would go to girls would walk by and shing. So anyway, I don't know, we may go there on Saturday night, shing, shing, shing. I think I was, sorry. It was comedy back then. Disgusting. Well, anyway, this feels like after talking about the last time in the way, I think,

it just has all this beautiful kind of thing. Now this, it's blowing my mind. I had no idea. So you have pressure and you get the mummy. Do you feel pressure by doing the mummy? Yes, but I do normally under any circumstances, whatever. But is that like putting on an old friend in a way when you get the gear on and there I am? You know, it's funny you say that because I was at a fitting for a Western thing that I did.

A saga, like, I don't know, like eight years ago, it was about the Texas Rangers. And at the fitting, someone pulled the boots from a deep freeze at Universal that I wore in the mummy, brought them to the fitting. And, uh... Design or is no, no, they were the boots, the riding boots, the Rick O'Connell boots, so from the mummy. Oh, and then you put them on. And I put them on.

They still, because your feet don't change, right? The rest of you does. And I did get a real... I could smell the camel spit. You know, it was really, it was unique. Exactly. You know where you're going to do it? Yeah, in Tangier, in North Africa.

Oh, it's the nicest time of year. And the UK. It's a coastal, it's a dry heat. Okay, good. You know, it's the same and also locations that are, if not the, then very similar ones from the first and second. Have you negotiated completely what you're going to get for a moment? me for? I haven't signed anything. I got a feeling about pressure and that's going to put pressure

on the negotiating team at Universal. Is that where it's going? I think pressure is going to do really well. Hey, you know, let's let's be hopeful. It's a film that does show us what we need to remember about why the number of people who lived and died at that time made the effort. to stop fascism from becoming the scourge of the world. And it makes us compare ourselves today to that time. And I will leave the audience to make their own summary judgment. But my hope, my hope is that we will be reminded, not just of the sacrifice, but of the reason why we were even fighting that war in the first place.

Well, that's heavy. And I also thought you're going to fall back in a chair, the whole podcast. And that was my pressure. I was worried because every time he leans back. No, he's a natural. That was a primble. That was a pratfall. That was like Danny Kay.

Seriously, dude. Look at how easy it is from him to fall back. And it's sort of inching up when he talks. Could we get a chair? It was one of my favorite. bits and auditions. I was running out of ideas. I would throw myself up.

Oh, yeah, all the time. Oh, shit. That would be so funny, freaking back. Did you do that? That's a great one. How do you think I got hired for Encino man? Oh, that's great. Oh, you just threw yourself off.

Yeah, I was wrestling with the plants in the room. I was eating them. Yeah, really? He just went crazy. There were no lines. I was a weird theater kid from Seattle, of course. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Well, anything else, you got anything? Thank you for coming. That was very nice of you. Dana's going to look at this. May 29. May 29th. I always like to get that out there.

I don't know. May 29th. May 29th. So it's in like, yeah, I don't know when this airs 2028, I think. Pressure is theater. Right? Yes, theaters. Remember theaters, everyone?

Theaters, big. See it in a theater. Fun to go see. It's, it's a cinematic experience. It's, you know, it's British filmmaking. in the sense that this is what they do. The detail, you know, it's qualified. It's extraordinary.

Yes. You'll see it in the theaters. We'll see it in the lounges. We'll see it in the cineplexes. I don't know if I'm JFK or, no, Winston Church. I was doing JFK. Anyway, thanks for coming. I could chat with you guys all afternoon.

I'm so grateful for your time. We appreciate it. We love having you. I saw your name on the dock. I go, of course, this is fantastic. Of course. It's very, very nice. It's fun and interesting it was the first time I was chatted with you.

So let's never do this again. Let's never do it again. Let's do it after the Mummy 5. Hey, guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app. Give us a review, five-star rating, and maybe you can share an episode that you've loved with a friend. If you're watching this episode on YouTube, please subscribe. We're on video now. Fly on the Wall is presented by Odyssey, and executive produced by Danny Carvey and David Spade.

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