Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Cheri Oteri

Episode Date: September 14, 2022

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the show. Full of energy, full of characters, wrote a lot. And that's exactly what you want for that show. She was like when they say brother from another mother, I don't know how you say sister from another mister, I don't know. But I definitely had some, some crossover with Sherri O'Terry in that she and I've talked to other comedians about this, she broke the seal on that show of what a woman could do in a sketch, because she would commit to sexual innuendo and physicality so intensely that you couldn't not laugh. And she has this thing

that she does where she looks off after- I think she's like this? Yeah, the character lands a line in. I keep it. Yeah, so she's as organically funny as anybody. And the interview was so much fun because we were just laughing the whole time and she just kept telling these stories about her mother and her child.

It was so fan-living. That was one we were laughing a lot. Yeah, and the stuff that fantasy world that she grew up in and what made Shereo Terry and her name is very cool. You would be David Oates Spade it or something. No, Spade is obviously fake name, but no. People, Chris Rockies to go,

Spade, did they ask you, they say, did you and Spade make your names up? No. I lucked out. Chris Rock is a great name. Chris Rock is a great name. It's like boom, boom, boom. David Spade's good.

Dana's I like, but Carvey's weird, because there's only five in North America. It's one of the strangest tribes from Ireland. We were murderers and thieves and gun runners. We're nasty people. That's good news. About a lot of anger underneath this facade. Underneath this pith helmet.

By the way, gang, you can write to me about where to get this hat. By the way, the petunias are almost ready. And I feel like I'm like Henry Fonda in Golden Fond. Yeah, I was looking for some strawberries. Then I wanted to get back here, see your sweet face. You're gonna go, go, go, go. That's for the over 70s.

Jesus. Boom. Not that movie, I'm so young. You're so young and so fresh. Yeah, if you were a plant, you'd be a daisy. Mmm, fresh. I'm grizzled. Sheriotary. Sheriotary, this is just, shezzled. Sheri O' Terry.

Sheri O' Terry, this is just, she looks up to Dane a lot too. A lot of people come on here do, especially. They get some nice compliments, but we have had a lot of incredible episodes. We love anyone who would dare come on to our Narcissist display. But Sheri did stick out to someone

who really, really made me laugh. So enjoy this one. Hi, Dina! Hi, Sherry! Ah! Hi! Oh, it's so nice to see you. It's so nice to see your bed! I know one of my beds.

Wow, and you made it for today! I did! I fluffed my hair up. I copped it attitude. I checked my lighting. My lighting is amazing. You look like you're in high school which is perfect. You guys both look good. I. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Stade. Hi. I have lighting above me which I guess is the worst scenario. Not flattering David. No, I do look good. You look good. You look scary. I ain't, look at these.

Look at your hair. Wow. Oh, shit. You know what I have to write down? I have to share about. I am eyes what it's asked where we're on. Sherry, you don't remember this, but you were on the show with me for a false season.

She doesn't remember that. You might not remember that. I'll put my hat on, you know, gross out. But one time we went to Ferello's. And you fainted? Oh, no. Yes. Yeah.

Someone said, came back to me and it was your time to pay the check and they go, your friend is in the bathroom. He fainted. Your friend was a, I don't think it was a money thing. No, no, no, it was your time to pay because we what what we did we went we went off and on your time to pay my time to pay your time to pay and you always had um high blue guys see me out when it was your time to pay. It just seemed really convenient. I had convenience see the right. Yeah. And then it was like get them orange juice, get them orange juice. Give them a dog treat.

No one knew what to do when the check comes. He checks out. Good night. Yeah. Here's your orange juice and the check. No, what happened was Sherry, I think you live in an upper west side. And I live in an upper west side. Mm-hmm. And I live in a west side. And sometimes Dana, we didn't get

caraded around like you, like Meghan Markle and Sherry to work. We didn't have cars in the party. We built the show back. You guys came in, Dan. We built the show back. Phil Harvett, you've never heard of them. You've never heard of them.

John Loveitt's ever heard of them. Yeah, we were, thanks to you. Thank you. We had a job, but we didn't get cars for sure. We didn't get cars. No, no. And it was really kind of dumb on NBC's part because we didn't know if we could get to work.

Even on Show Day, no cars, it was like hailing calves. And so Sherry and I would try to struggle and walk. And I didn't have any protein bars back. This is the days we didn't have protein bars. So you had to carry like a plum in your sock. So I didn't have anything to nib on and we got there and I was like, where's the goddamn food? And so we walked a few relos in like Columbus Square.

And then I started to like drift. Like she's like, David, I'm like, hello darkness, my old friend. I started to like, I she's like David. I'm like hello darkness my My friend I started like I think I slide down in the boot To go black out on the bathroom floor and she's like This is beyond diarrhea. It's been about 25 minutes. What's happening? And then I think you sent a waiter in yeah, and he was like I guess you're gonna have to pay Miss Oteri He's still thinking.

No, your friend is on the floor. And I go, um, uh, can you go in and get him off the floor? I mean, I love that that was his, you know, uh, it was like, hello. That's not normal. We didn't plan on him going on the floor to see if see these all right? Yeah. And then you came out, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and it's like, I need irons juice, I need irons juice. And yeah, I'm like, oh my gosh. I had some really funny, funny, used to say to me, I remember you go to me, hey, share, watch this. And we would be at like a bar and you would go up

to a really pretty girl and you would go up to a really pretty girl. And you would go like this, you would say, um, excuse me. Um, don't I know you from somewhere? Wait a minute, aren't you an actor? Wait a minute. Aren't you, you're really famous. You've been in movies and you're really popular. Wait a second.

You, wait. Oh, I'm sorry. That's me. No, it was. Yeah. Okay. I'd sometimes go way. Let's bring you down. Are you on a big TV show? Yeah. Or is that me? Yeah. Yeah. It was something like that, Sherry, but thank you for exposing my best watch. Oh my God. It's a make me laugh. And you always epitomize to me the kind of guy that you say, oh, Sherry, I can't wait for you to meet my girlfriend.

It was growing, going out with, she's so funny. And then I would meet her and she just giggles at everything you say. And I'm like, I'm at a few of those. Honey, that's not called a sense of humor. That's called. I'm like, Sherry, you're funny. This one's a, you dialed.

That's called a girl that feeds your ego by laughing at, everything you say and if her boobs shake when she laughs, she's a riot All right, we're about to go to a test pattern because this isn't going the right way for me That five years on the show by the time you met him and so he was a kid in a candy store He was famous for the first time and like Mickey Rooney told me money makes you a handsomer So that's what happened. But back to Sherry O'Carry, our guest today, superstar cast member of Sarah Night Live from 1995 to 2000. Go ahead. I just, I play kind of the DJ. Oh, wait, Dana, before that. Yeah. First of all, you're from, you're from Philadelphia. Yeah. Right outside of Philly, the suburbs, actually Greg,

who I was talking to earlier. We were talking about Philly and all the people that came from my little town upper Darby besides Todd Rungren. Oh Todd Rungren? Super fan, yep. Yep, yep, yep. Did you see that documentary on him? Yes. That was great. Was it called Mar of Eastern? You see that documentary on him? Yes. That was great. What is it called, Mayor of Eastern? No.

I on an hour of a few times at SNL and at his house in Sosolito. Really? Yeah, I got to know. My brother and my mother's brother are both Todd Fanatics. Like, my mother's brother wrote a book about Todd. My brother was, yeah, the definitive history of Todd Rungren. But anyway, that was a very talented neighborhood you grew up in. Todd Rungren, you.

I'm Tina Fey. I'm so surprised, though, that all the songs he wrote, you know, sometimes you just follow upon like a documentary. You're like, all right, I'll watch just and you're like blown away. I did not know he wrote that. I didn't know he wrote that. Yeah, that he is really a prolific songwriter. Is that why you sound like we can't understand you? It's because you're from Philadelphia. You got such a strong accent. Yeah.

What is the Philadelphia accent? I mean, I never, you go to Aaron's juice. I just juice. No, it's, you know, the whole thing is, when I call a friend, we had the recording, God, telephone recording, hi, we're not home at the moment. Leave a message in the sanity town and we'll get back to you. It's not an attractive, it is not an attractive accent.

And they leave off the Gs and I and G. Yes, so I was talking. We were walking, talking. It's not an attractive accent at all. God, it's so hard to do. How does it blend in with Long Island? Because it feels like to my ear, they're very close relatives, but it's different. I'm telling you, the suburbs, it's like a lazy vows. They just jumbled the vows and believe that some continents are continents, continents. Constantin, continents. Constantin, continents. Scottsdale Community College are not needed.

Like the Gs and I and G. What's your favorite accent just to inhabit, likeazy Bals. What's your favorite accent? Just do inhabit, like in life, or hang out. I love doing Southern. Southern, which one? North Carolina or Texas? I don't even know where I am on the Southern accent. Just fun, sounds fun.

But I just absolutely love doing Southern accents. Can you give us a little bit right now? I'll do one to start. Well, you guys both did Ross Perot, I think. No, Ross Perot. Dana did Ross Perot. You did it, I just copied Dana. You did it, I just copied Dana.

I copied everybody. Dana, I copied you. But you were so funny and I believe it started a pattern of where women, especially now on Sailor Night Live, are allowed just to play the men. And that was the first time I remembered a political figure that almost was president, then I left and you played him, which I thought was a very cool thing. And then Lauren brought you back to play him again, and I'm like, did I not do well?

But I was just kind of, I loved doing it. They had all these prosthetics on me. And I'll never forget Jeanne Graflo was at that show. And she goes, and I had all this energy and all these prosthetics. And she goes, you know, and the bald head, she goes, look like one of those kids with progeria. Progeria?

Progeria. You know, that is, it's- She has now go get them. I just learned about alipolacia, so I'm just trying to- Where are you? Alapolacia! That too. Alapolacia is a tauda. That's when someone in the South gets it.

It's alipolacia. That's what. It's a different down there with that kind of thing. I'm gonna stay in a Southern accent while I interview for Restless Show. But, should we keep going on SNL or just find out a little bit about how you got on it? So now it's up to you, David, you're the co-host. Oh, well, Sherry has a long pass before SNL.

I do like the Philadelphia stuff. And then, but I didn't know if you went in with Will Farrell. Did you have cheerleaders? Are those things down already? Or did you just come up with that? No, no, we came up with them at SNL, but we did both come in from the groundlings. The same year, now you went to the ground.

You knew them at the groundlings? Yeah, we first wanted together. Yeah, we first wanted together. Okay, so was anyone else dragged with you guys on that when you got hired? Chris Gatana and Jennifer Coolidge. Oh shit, we were all in the same show. At the groundlings. Okay, so so and Kitan came this exact same time

as you to SNL. Yes, but he didn't get hired the same time. Oh, yeah, didn't he come a year later or something? No, yeah, but you know, it was at that time, it was 50-50 as far as NBC and Lauren having deciding, you know, the cast really? Yes. Oh, wow. Oh, it's, it seems like Lauren always does that. And no, but I don't know how they did it, but they wanted to be an agreement. They had to be an agreement.

All right, Marcie, raise your hand, everyone who liked Chris Katette. Okay, that's one, two, three. How about your , Scott Sass. What about your group? Sherry Wilferrell, is there anything there? He asked me. You know what? Did you, the two sketches that I wrote that Will and I were in, he said, I'd like those on the, he had me do, I had written a sketch with a, called like an 80s prom sketch and he wanted us to do that on the first show

with Mary L. Hemingway. It didn't work out with, to write Mary L into it. So he said, just do it yourselves like the next week. And then the other thing was I had written a kid in a cockpit at the groundlings, and I cast Will. And the funny thing was, I said to him, his name was Captain Chase. And the strangest thing was when I said to him, you know, like his name was Captain Chase. And the strangest thing was when I got SNL,

I ended up doing that when Chevy Chase hosted. And I'm like, I had to change the name of the captain because it was actually his name. And I remember I said to him, this is really strange, but when I originally wrote this at the groundlings, it was kept in chase.

And here I am, all wide-eyed. It was kept in chase and I had to change it because it's your really chase. Well, what was kid in a cockpit? What was that sketch? It was just a kid that got to go visit the cockpit and she was a pain in the ass. And the pilot did not win any parts. Okay. That's so funny.

All your characters are a pain in the ass by the way. No, none joking. No, that's funny. I like, where is football's in my yard? I keep it now. Which one is that? That's the Italian woman on a porch. It's every woman who polices el camino en el mundo.

Es muy difícil, hysterico. Me gusta la voz de la voz de la voz. a los datos de millones de correos electrónicos para ofrecer recomendaciones personalizadas, para mejorar el contenido de tus correos electrónicos, segmentar tu público, entre muchas cosas más, adivina menos y vende más con Intuitimale Sim, la marca número 1 en Emilio y Marketing e Automatización, empieza hoy mismo en MailSimple.com, vas a venderte a tus públicos de marcas competidoras en número globales de clientes en 2021-2022. Oh, I got one before us now. When you were, did you work for Record Company? I just wanted to know if Record Companies are, are they sketchy like they say or you don't see that?

Well, I worked at A&M Records. Like I moved to LA to get in the music business and I worked in publishing, Alma Werving Publishing, which was owned by her, BAlpert and Jerry Moss. And to me, A&M Records was the camelot of the music industry at that time. And it was my dream. Like they had alternative artists before that that could never get on the on the radio because they

didn't have alternative radio stations at that time. But they signed them anyway. So I was like, wow. And then I started working in the publishing company for a year and a half. And I remember a woman saying to me, like, all my like people was like, oh, you're so funny, you should just stand up. And I couldn't see myself doing stand up. I couldn't see myself being myself in front of people.

And so someone said, oh, you should do the groundlings. I go, well, I should say, what? What's a groundling? I go, what's a groundling? And they go, oh, it's an improv, truth. I go, what's improv? What is the scotch you speak of? And I'll never forget going,

I looked in the yellow pages, and I found the, you know, the growling stuff went down. And I, I'm telling you, I walked in there, and I saw all the pictures of people, of Phil Hartman, of John Lovitz, of Lorraine Newman, of Pee-Wee, of Paul Rubens, and just all of these people, I'm like, oh my God, what do they do here?

And then I started seeing shows, and I was hooked. But I had, then I moved over to the record company. I was doing promotion, rockin' and pop promotion, working in there, and the whole time doing the groundlings. And I just thought, I have the best of both worlds. I can be working at the A&M records and then be creative at the groundlings, never would have dreamt as big as what had happened.

You're so yours, in the daytime, you're prepping like a meat and greet for Aureo's speed wagon. And then at night. No, I didn't. I was pretty much of his radio promotion. But it was the funnest job. And the funniest thing is when I got SNL everybody's like so no more free CDs. And I was like Jesus Christ. Can you pretend that you like me?

Sure, can I ask you a question? So when you got into the ground lane, usually you take classes, you build up and stuff. When did you like, did you find, when did you kind of go, geez, I'm really good at this. I mean, when did it turn for you? Because it was at the first point. When people did, I, when people, like, because it's a long process, you start out at basic

and then you judge, you know, after, whether you can move up or whether you have to repeat or you get dropped, then you go to intermediate. It's the same thing. Then you do that for months and months and months. Then you're judged, do you repeat, get dropped or move up? And then, and then lab and then, and then lab and then advanced. And that was a two year process.

And I just thought, I thought like I'm doing well when people that I thought were good were being dropped. Oh, and you're being advanced. So you're kind of going, I must be good if that person's dropped and I'm not. Well, I just don't the great thing is that I had gone for me as I always thought myself the worst person in the class and the great thing about that was I had no attitude. The only way to do it go is go up from there. You know, because I didn't have any kind of acting background. And I remember meeting everybody in the all head head shots.

And they were all talking about the business. They were talking about the business. And, and, and, you know, I was just like, oh my God, I'm just happy to be here. Like I really did not think I was gonna be an actress or it was gonna, I mean, I just thought it was a dream to be a ground link. And you know, like that was your ceiling. Yes.

For sure. Yeah, that was like me to stand up. I never thought of it. So you didn't do anything, sorry, David. Anything in high school or sketch or anything? No, you just came out of the blue ground lanes. My God, and then that's your training. And I did take some classes outside of the ground links,

what's I was in the ground links, just to get a taste of like, you know, other forms of, of, of, of, you know, classes and, and, and cold reading classes, stuff like that. But I took to it like I'd never taken to anything in my life. I, it was like the clouds parted and I found my place. Yeah, wow.

And so I was like Tracy Flick. I was there early, I left late, I had my hand up. I was in awe of everything, in awe of everything. I was never so excited about, like I couldn't sleep at night after class because either I did well and I was never so excited about like I couldn't sleep at night after class because either I did well and I was so excited or I did bad and I couldn't forgive myself, you know, but you only learn when you do when you don't do well anyway. So it's kind of like remember your class, your

in class, your in class, your in class. And I remember I had to repeat intermediate and it was the best thing that ever happened and I remember my best friend at intermediate and it was the best thing that ever happened and then I remember my best friend at the time worked in the box office, Mike Sweeney, and his sister was Julius Sweeney and I found out that she had to repeat intermediate and I'm like, oh, that's so cool. We're both repeat. Repeated. Repeated.

And how did your style evolve before you got an SNL? And they're like, when did you first know you could throw your voice with an Accent and an impression where you doing those with friends or I never did impressions, but I always To me I I copied like as a kid. I would watch television and then we'll copy everything I saw Sure and I would go up this to you. It was at Carol Burnett. Was it? Yeah, but no I I copied soap opera people. Oh. Okay.

Because I was very, very intrigued by the civility. You know, it was such a contrast from how I was growing up. Oh, yeah. You know, where the TV was on 24-7, and you know, you had your mother's scream, and I wish I was dead all the time. Um, you know, how did you do that? Is that real?

No, yeah, I never know, but I think. I'm a rough entumble, yeah. Yeah, very, very chaotic and just so unhinged. And I just love soap operas because of the civility of everybody. They're so dignified and beautiful and cool. And I to imitate them all the time. I would I would actually set up on our radiator, a makeshift bar because back then in the in like the 70s in the soap operas they would come in and go straight to the the bar.

There was never a TV on in the soap operas right? And so I would make up a makeshift bar and have collied in a vase that you could see through. That was my craft and then I would have ice and and tongs to put and then when my mother would walk in I would stand the way the camera shots you know how and soap operas open out. The camera comes in and then the person is talking to them from them back Yeah, yeah, like a rat focus. Yeah, kind of right so I my mother would come in and I go mother you startled me mother you startled me yeah, and she would go like this who the fuck left the door open with the air conditioner on and I would go like this in my mind cut God, so your survival mechanism was to almost live inside a soap opera with

actual I lived inside and no one knew what I was doing. It was really crazy Myself and then I would watch like little house on the prairie. I'd go upstairs put my hair in flats And then I would watch like little house on the prairie. I'd go upstairs, put my hair in flats, you know, in braids. And they get on my prairie to jamas. And I would come down and my mom would be in the kitchen. I go, ma, when's Pa coming? And she goes, what? I go, when's Pa coming home?

And she goes, I don't know, but you better have fucking money. God! So it was like, my dad didn't live with us. So it was like, whatever, you know, and if my mind was constantly cut, because it wasn't going to be what you wanted. It wasn't going to be a TV show. You can't curse on TV. And I'm just, and she, and then I remember I would watch like, the tank of tank commandments was just on the other night. Oh, the movie, the original, because it's Easter. Easter is coming.

So they, you know, and I used to live for the tank commandments. Yeah. You know, and, um, and I would be watching it and I'd go in the other room. My mom and her friend or smoke and cigarettes and, you know, talking and I would get a ladle and Ile and I would fill it with water and give it to my mom and say mom can you hand this to me and she's like what what do you want Sharon I go just hand it to me and then my mom's friend would say honey I'll hand it to you and I go no no my mom go I'll hand it to you just give it to me so I she would take it and then she would hand it to me and I would drink it down really fast and I go you are kind

I will dwell in this land And she goes dwell in the other room You got a one woman show about this relationship And then my friend I I would say to my mom's friend you are strong you stood up to the Malachi And so you remember that from well, I just know the Cain's I I actually read the Bible after I saw when I was You are strong, you stood up to the Malachi. So you were kind of, do you remember that from? Well, I just know the Cain's, I actually read the Bible after I saw it

when I was like eight or something. I started reading the Bible after I saw it. Wow, are you serious? Oh yeah, I was just like, maybe this is the true man, this looks pretty real. I was like, you know, I was like seven. It was like a documentary to me. Oh, I'm gonna get to the bottom of this religions thing

and I'm gonna open the book. He's like, it's a bus door. Real thing. And then he goes, oh, there is one at the library. Let me delve into this a little bit. Tina, that's adorable. And years later, there's a flash, which I want to ask you to. I'm with Charlton Heston on SNL and Lawrence want to get him to do church chat, church lady

with Moses. And he didn't want to do it. We're kind of pressure. I didn't want to pressure him, but he goes, this is amazing Moses, and he didn't wanna do it, we're kinda pressured. I didn't wanna pressure him, but he goes, just isn't- Oh my God, that would have been awesome! It's so surreal, those kind of things, but back to this, I just wanna couch this for a second,

so your mother's, you probably love, she's very aggressive, there's a lot of tension in the house. You escape into these shows and use three- dimensional props to kind of become a part of these Call mean shows the 10 commandments. Did you have a crush on Michael Landon? I was gonna ask because what's any sort of a teen idol in a way for a while? Yeah Well little house in the prairie. No, I mean Did I like the blind girl? Did I like the blind girl? I like the blind girl.

I thought it was. David's like, what I couldn't done with that shit. She couldn't see that I'm not that cute. I would just tell her I was. Not with that lighting. Not with this lighting. No, that's not lighting. You can't see him listeners,

but David's got gothic kind of lighting on his face. My hair looks cool and no one believes me. I don't care. I'm going to the fall. We have great hats. I got to get a photo. Who have a hat on? Well, because I was throwing you guys off because there was so much shade on my face and lighting it look crazy So Sherry this is so interesting. I'm just so you know when I think about you as a performer Just the word that comes in is committed not as a woman. Well as a woman. That's a whole other That's a that'll be our second hour. We'll delve into your

sexuality and everything, you know, no, you're a very attractive. I don't know. The question is myself, you know, sous-mute and I adore you. But where you is committed, I mean, you're so committed, you're watching these shows, little kids, you got props and you're talking like biblical characters to your mom. What the fuck you're doing? I so love you, mother. How did this inform you as a performer? I mean, obviously you developed an ear and a ero theatrical, but you'd never done anything official

till you go into groundlings. And then how many years into that were you in the main company and ready for SNL? How long did it take? I did two years of classes and then two years in the Sunday company, writing and performing every Sunday. And then I got into the main company. I was in the main company for a year and a half.

And I would say that SNL was my first job. Wow. And now you were prepped enough, right? Because you were doing pretty much exactly SNL, pretty much. Yeah, I mean, I just kept the same kind of writing and just, you know, just kept, there's, you know, I learned the difference between theater and television. I remember writing something in the groundlings that did really well, but it died. And I remember, and I remember Quinn, Colin Quinn saying, share, I don't know if this is going to come

off the way it did in theater because when you talk out in theater on a stage, the audience can imagine the fourth wall. If you do it on television, you just look crazy. If you're talking out, you know what I'm saying? And I did not know the difference between that. And I remember it was Kevin Spacey and I had done this character where she has a party every year, the same party and the only two people show up but she acts like there's a lot of people there. She says all the things that you say when it's a really packed party.

You know what I mean? Did you find parking? Excuse me, I just got a request. The keg is beat, a young party. The keg is beat. We've got to put, I'm going to pass a hat around. And all these things, and I did it with Kevin Spacey, and it just died because of what he said,

because a lot of it was me talking out to people that weren't there. And it's kind of confusing. But, and then I remember Lauren always saying, Sherry, do you know where your camera is? And I thought it was a trick question. I go, yeah, no, you don't. And because the people at home would like to see,

the people at home would like to see you too. And I didn't even know what he meant. But, and after that it was like, okay, oh, that one's my camera with the red light. Like, I would just play the audience, I never played to a camera. I didn't know to play to a camera. Right, interesting.

And sometimes you knew it. So you might go off the cards because you're sort of just performing something you already knew. Right, I'm performing the way I did at the groundlings, like as if it was a stage. And I remember Chris Farley saying to me, you know what, Sherry, I just,

he said something to the effect of, I just pretend like I'm back at second city, and I don't even pretend, I don't even think of the cameras. And I was just like, yeah, you could do that, but I get in trouble for it. Yeah, I thought to say you gave you the opposite advice. Yeah, opposite. You made it work for you. I get in trouble. But you, to me, were kind of a carviesque because your characters are very committed.

They were a lot of energy. I know. And you were flouting. And every, you come up with these new characters. You know, we only did a year, but after I left and I'd watch and I go, God damn, she just keeps coming up with shit. And it's so hilarious. And they were really clicking.

And what did you do? Five years. Yeah. And did you, you walked away? Or did you want to stay or what did you do? Oh, I left. Yeah. That's it.

I don't know. Enough of it or what was it? Well, it just, you know, you really have to have a thick skin. And, and as much as I love the work and could do the work, I did not have a thick enough skin at that time. But I wanna say something, I remember my first year, I was well into it, I think. And someone, I got a phone call and they go,

Sherry, Dennis Miller's on the phone. And I had never had anybody famous call me or anything like that. And I was like, people famous don't just call the people. And then the funny thing was, was he had no idea of this. But his off white album, when I was in Philadelphia, I had it memorized. It was the funniest album, and not that I listened to albums. I heard it by accident from someone else. And I remember I was working at a college bar downtown.

And we had live music. And during, before the soundcheck, they were playing his album, I was crying. I was laughing so hard. Yeah. Crying to where I turned all my friends on to it and we just constantly would quote it. And then here, he's calling me. And unlike I pick up the phone and he goes,

like he has no idea that I know that album by heart. And it always sounds like such bullshit when you say Oh, I'm such a fan. Right. You know what I mean? And then he goes this is what he said to me. Sherry I just want to say you got commitment like Carvy Wow And I'm gonna tell you I was so so flattered because Dana like I always related to you

and the characters that you did, like and your ability and your commitment, and I'm just like, God damn, like he's so freaking good and funny and even when you did an impression, it didn't, I didn't like any impressions that were so dead on that you were like, after five minutes, you're bored of it. You would do a take of somebody.

And that was way more entertaining than somebody to me nailing it. You would do a funny take, a twist on the character that made it so much fun to watch over and over and over again. And then when Dennis said, you've got commitment like Harvey, I tell you, I know I cried. Because first of all, he has, and then I started saying to him, you don't know the off-white album, and then I started quoting it.

And you know, I think he was like, oh, that's nice. That's nice. Wait a minute. What? And I was quoting it and you know I think it was like oh that's nice that's nice wait a what and I was quoting it quoting it quoting it that's exactly how if the I people ask me what do you say to a celebrity and I said find something very specific to say to them besides I'm such a bad you know and that data is what I learned about um doing when when learn the best thing that he ever did was make me do Barbara Walters. Because I remember, I kept saying, no, I don't do impressions, I don't do impressions. And then when I knew I didn't have a choice, I started listening and watching her over and over again.

And not just her cadence in the way she spoke, but she had a style on what she would always do is when she would interview people, she would give them three specific compliments. Oh. Specific. Because when you're specific, a person feels, oh, heard, it's not just, you're so talented. Yeah. It is when you did this, when you did that, and then all of a sudden that person opens up, they feel safe, they feel respected and seeing and then she can go into now why the point.

But she just knew how to make somebody lay on their back and expose their stomachs so that she could go in and kick him in the nuts. you go in and kick him in the nuts. Yeah, always looking for that angle and to get them to cry. Let me pet. Let me, it's like a dog. Let me pet your belly. Oh, look at that belly. Look at that belly. Gaggy.

In the nuts. Nutshot. Nutshot. How were you just for a second about having a thick skin, by the way, everything you said about me, he's greatly appreciated. That's so sweet. And I want to go down to the list of your characters, which are brilliant and intense. How were you? We talked to other cast members and they really had to battle

their nerves when they first came in. Just panic attacks, drenchedness. How were you that first season in terms of fighting that fear? No, the first season, I thought was great because we all came in at the same time. I mean, you remember NBC did a clean sweep and it was just David that they kept and norm and yeah, I mean, they did a clean sweep and I think Steve Corm was a writer that they kept.

Yeah, me too much. But so everybody came in at the same time and there was this appreciation and energy and we just all hit the ground running. There wasn't anybody that was sitting around and intimidating, you know, and wonder if you're gonna take their spot or anything. You know what I mean?

It was just like, you just, we all came in appreciative. And so my first year was not difficult. I just kept doing what I did at the ground links. And Sherry, wasn't it kind of like you were all to starting blocks together instead of? Yeah. Like I came in and Mike Myers is already way ahead of me Dane is way up there.

So you're really just trying to. We were starting first grade at the same time. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that does create a different vibe. I had that with Phil and Jan and... It was a beautiful vibe. It was like we were wide-eyed and so appreciative and all nervous. We didn't know to be scared. We were nervous. We learned later to be scared. So when was your first... What was your first one that clicked? The first show? The cheer leaders with Will? No. You're not, I don't know if you're going to remember this, but it was, I remember saying to Molly, I go, you remind me of a young Ann Miller. And then

I said, oh, yeah, I remember this sketch. I remember her doing Ann Miller. Yeah. Yeah. And then she's like, I go and cable had just started coming out. People doing cable shows. And I'm like, when'd be funny if we had these two older, you know, women who now have a cable show, but they still had that same mentality of when they were in, you know, and you were Debbie Reynolds, maybe, right? I was Debbie Reynolds. It was called leg up. And it was on the very first show and it did. I remember Lauren calling me into his office and go, Sherry, what demographic are you going for? And I'm just like, uh, Sherry, we're trying to get younger viewers. Yeah, and I go, I didn't think about that.

Like, I never thought about it. You think of the funny first? Yeah, and I go, I have't think about that. Like, I never thought about it. You think of the funny first. Yeah, and I go, I have a feeling that even if they don't know who they are, they still might like it. No, a thousand percent. It's just foolish people going for it and being self-faceted. And then we were on the cover of like Washington Post or something like that.

Oh, really? As those two characters. And then I really thought, I remember Darryl Hamon saying, the gay community in Hell's Kitchen, love you guys. Like, they were loving, I think, like, whatever we thought was funny, I think it was connecting with the gay community. And they are a tough audience

and they're an appreciative audience, you know what I mean? Oh yeah. They had a struggle and you know, it's kind of like, they've got a sense of humor, they have a sense of humor because of their struggle. And it's like whenever, you know, I love it when when when gay guys would come out to me and they always say the same thing. They never say the cheer leader or anything. They always say the prescription drug lady. Oh, that was hysterical. Oh, yeah,

that was the intense. Yeah. And I, and like, you know, you have people in your family that you do a take of. It's not exact. And I had an Irish Nana that would, was taking prescription drugs like, all day, everything. And back then, they were in a bejeweled box. You know, you didn't hide your pills. Yeah, you presented them. It was like a Faber-Jade.

Now I would say, Nana, could I hold your pillbox? Because it was so bejeweled and beautiful. All right, be careful. And then we would play a game of what each bill did. And I go, this is for sleep. This is for pep. Speed was just pep. This is for, you know, either fun. You're selling it a bit, but yeah.

Yeah, and then I go, and this is what I could never think of what it was, it's because water weight, water weight. And I'm, water weight, and she goes, and the doctor says, that's all this is all this is. And then back in the 70s, when someone got high at your house, your only job was to walk them to the car. And I remember my mom saying, and she would have, have, have beer. She'd be drinking beer while she was, you know, yeah, and then she would go, my

Nana would say, I'm leaving. No one's paying attention to me. So I would go upstairs and I go, Mommy Nana's leaving. She said no one's paying attention to her. She goes, all right. Well, walk her to the car and I go, Mommy, she goes, what? I go, she's not gonna be driving. And she goes, don't be fresh. Just go walk her to the car. When ever you said as a kid, anything that made sense.

Yeah, made sense. That made your parents responsible for their actions. Don't be fresh. And I'm like, your mouth. I didn't think I was being disrespectful. And I would literally she'd be hanging on me as if I was a walker. And I'd put her in the car. And I'm just thinking to myself, I don't know why this feels so wrong. Let's get those hands on the wheel

and you put her hands on the wheel. Let's start your car. And she already came with it half on the curb, half off. She was already high when she got there and so i just thought to myself i remember my mom getting a phone call one day what do you mean she wrapped it around a tree that's impossible my seven year old walker it is this real hard

was this on sarin i like this is a fucking funny uh... the sherry's dead pan delivery is the fun as far as the whole thing. with everything looks normal. Because when people are drunk or screwed up on I grew up, no one, I didn't know what it was, you know, so you just think they're being weird or goofy or funny. It was crazy, Uncle So-and-So, when people were drunk or alcoholics, when we were kids, they were just called crazy, whoever. Oh, crazy Uncle Joe's coming over. Oh, good.

Crazy Uncle, Uncle Kwaylood's is coming. You'd come out of your room at night and you would see that they formed them and their friends have formed a dance rhombotrain and they're just utterly smashed. Dun dun dun dun dun dun. They look just like fun. That's when they were gone.

And that's when every older woman peed when she left. Because the dance rhombotrain? No, I remember my Nana. She peed when she left and it was like great like i just thought to myself so she's what wets herself she's stumbling and slurry and you're just guiding her to a two thousand pound automobile full of it was all water weight in it it was all water was so a lot of it is so funny so what my mom took those pills to water weight bills now now it seems like you had to find comedy

after hearing these stories and your childhood. It's just like, it seems like destiny that you would be a comedian. I was buying myself a lot. I really didn't have to make friends. And so I became my own. Like I would just create. And I was just using my imagination to kind of, you know,

fill up what wasn't there. That's kind of like what Ron Williams used to do was just in the attic with toys, playing and stuff as an only child. I did that. My mom was at work all day. My dad was not around, but I remember a lot of kids had that imagination where you're just making up things and doing things and just trying to kill time. And it's fun. It's kind of fun.

It's not really sad. It's not sad. I mean, I knew I was really lonely as a kid, and spent a lot of time alone, and I just made the best of it. It's got like, I would wake up, oh, it's the Shariotiri show. Oh, you know, it was sad. I'm gonna counter that. It was.

Well, we didn't know we were sad, and we didn't know we were anxious. We didn't have a name for it, like depression or anxiety. Right, I would make myself laugh, I would make myself cry, and it was just kind of like, I really had my own network.

I wonder if I'm going to play a drama or a comedy today. You know what I like is, at first of all, in your Google, if you look at anything about you in Wikipedia, it says, Sherry often plays characters or upbeat, perky, or hyper. I'm like, that's fair. But I think when you say, let's say you're a kid and you're doing these, like just flat soap opera character, they're very real. Just very present and quiet and subdued. That's interesting, you do that.

And then you can also play characters where it's exaggerated and funny. Like, and you also say you say you play characters like, it's always kind of based on someone you know and then you just, like my brother, I used to do something and he goes, everyone makes fun of me because you said I was like that. I go, all I need is 2% of an idea. And then I just make it, I just go as far as I can with it to make it funny. And any character that is,

would someone would find offensive, the great thing is that the person never knows it's them. Oh yeah, that's true. No. And it's good to be on there now. Yeah. That it's so ridiculous to make it funny. Like you said, kind of like the Italian woman on porch,

I kind of got like a little bit of my grandma for when I was a kid, but she was never, she was always the nice one on the porch. Like, she was very, very nice. And then I did my Nana very nice, but she wasn't very nice. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. It's kind of like,

when you pick and choose and do like a research paper of a few people and make the funniest parts of each one. Exactly. And the kind of the parts that the audience, I think, will take to. You know what I mean? You don't want to turn anybody off or depress anybody. And I always think to myself, I think I did

Karek's Thursday that never knew how bad off they had it. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. There's an optimism because it's like they have no idea, like, you know, that they were rejected. They're kind of tragic or something. Like Adele, which I watched this morning, this sex office flirt or the sex worker flirtation woman was kind of fits that.

If she does not sense even a monochrome of rejection. It was pretty wild. I mean, you just wonder sometimes, can these, could that be done today? That character just for the per you know, just because it was it was intense. I mean, but it's so ridiculous that I think and it being a woman makes it I think a little easier for the audience to digest because when I remember I said it to Chris Parnell for like two years, I go, Chris, you know, you should do this character

because Chris was so sweet and, but boy did he do in New Window. Like I would be like, Chris, can you have me a pencil? Oh, I'll hand you a pencil. I'm not like, jeez, Chris. Like you can find sex anywhere. Like, and anything. And I just, it just maybe always think of that I'm not like cheese criss, like you can find sex anywhere. Like anything.

And I just, it just maybe always think of that because he was a very serious, nice, wonderful, and yet he had that side of him that wasn't even offensive or salacious. It was just, you just noticed it and you just kind of like pretended, you know, okay, that caught me off guard. But and then I thought to myself, wouldn't it be funny if then because when the person doesn't react to Inuendo or a sexual thing, then you explain it to him as if that's why they didn't react

to it. You know, I didn't react to it because I wanted it. I wanted you to stop. I didn't want to encourage it. I want, you know, but I love the fact that, oh, okay, you didn't understand. Let me explain it to you. I'd like to wrap my hands around your mouth. Yeah, this pencil is like a penis. Yes. And I was forward thinking because of the one.

Sherry, you did a Dana. Yeah. I used to be at a show called Just Shoot Me while you were out and you know, doing whatever you were doing. I did a guest spot. Oh, that's right. But I didn't get it. I didn't get an Emmy nomination like someone I know.

Oh boy. We have to just shoot me scores. I mean, talk about coming and score. Sherry and Dana and Dana, you should have. And Sherry, you did. No, Sherry and Dana and Dana you should have and Sherry was better. But tell everybody you were the assistant to was it Maya? Yes, and you know she was awful but I got to tell you that experience to me. When I did that show I just thought to oh my God, this is a cake walk.

Like I just thought there was the first sitcom I did and I was like, my God, no matter what you're going to be written for. Yeah, that's what I thought when I got there. Yeah, no matter what, you're not going to get cut at the end of the week, no matter what you, you come in at 10 and you leave it three what in the world Like this is heaven and then it's like miss O'Geeery Well, what would you like in your own like get the fuck away from me like I'm like what's your angle? What's your playing? Yeah, I'm telling you Sherry that was when I got there and I just come from the hardest place like you did and

Then everyone's pulling for you and going, do you have enough jokes to them? And I'm like, are you writing for me? And then, and then they go, if you wanna add jokes, so they're giving me jokes, and then saying, add some if you want. And it's just, it was a very nice feel, not the sound of life was,

the sound of life is what it is, but then you go and you go, oh, I just got through boot camp and this is easier. Like, you just can't believe that you're being written for. Yeah. You can't believe it. Like, you know, it was too when I got hired when Lauren said, we'd want you to continue writing.

I felt so flattered. I was like so honored and flattered, you know, and what I didn't realize was like, oh, no, no, no, no, honey, you have to write if you want to be on the show. Yeah, were you a writer performer? I was a feature player writer. What were you when you came on? Writer performer. And you had a writer's credit as well.

No, no, no. I didn't get any. Not in get a credit. Dana didn't. I'm not bitter. Oh, and honey, doing my best of DVD, where I don't make a sense off of it, you know, and I, but I- And you wrote every sketch?

Yeah, but I did get to, I'm sure there was other sketches written by other people, but, you know, it's predominantly stuff that I wrote and I just thought that's what I said, wow. I wanted to be a part of it, you know, but yeah, you don't, someone's like, oh, I'm gonna buy a few of your CTs. I go, no, no, no, just buy one.

I don't make it up any often. I'm not. I'm not. You sign that away when you get the job. Sure. I was a writer, didn't make a lot, but it pays dividends later in the line. Plus, you're known as a writer.

I thought that was a very proud moment to be a writer performer, but I didn't really want to write. I knew I'm going to write for myself no matter what like Dana, like you. It was nice. I got a little extra. I didn't get much to be on. So, right. And I was not cast very much at all, either. You know, I was not cast. I wasn't cast in the ground links. I wasn't cast in SNL. And that trouble for me being cast follows me. And so that's why it's like, wait a minute, why am I treating life outside the ground links in SNL any different than it was within? I have to write for myself. you know, for whatever reason, I'm not really cast. Maybe because I did a lot of characters, I don't know. Well, you know, you did something in grownups too, and then we were just talking

this morning, how it was, you had a beret near you, you had a crush on Sandler's characters, that was. Yeah. From high school, and then you'd show up, and you were obsessed with them, kind of still. Yeah. And that was like something that might have been a little flatter with someone else, but you brought a lot to it and probably attitude. And just the way you performed it, it was it jumps out. Thank you. Well, we'll say it was already on the page. You know, and um, maybe because they knew it was you, it's easier to, you know,

know, I'll just you for that three times. three times oh you did they didn't know it was me that's gonna be so jaded they didn't know is me they didn't know they didn't know that's crazy well and you and you that was a day in a part of the funny part was I think she had a Brett in her hair she ran into Sandler at the store was he with his wife uh no I but I was with my husband, Steve Goshemmian. And she's kind of hitting on Adam because reliving that they used to date. Yeah, as if, and there, there I am being another character that has no sense of rejection. Yeah. And he gave you a beret or something when you were, you were little and you still have it, and you wear it. Yes, and I still wear it. Yeah, and he doesn't remember.

It was great. Anyway, I love that. Just shoot me. I have one other question. Now listen, when you met Lauren the first time, did you have to wait when you go in that office? Yeah, I believe no matter if you're five hours early, you're going to have to wait whenever an appointment is made.

Because I remember, I remember Marcy saying, Sherry, I think you should take a look at early, you're going to have to wait whenever an appointment is made. Because I remember I remember Marcy saying, Sherry, I think you should take a break. But I'm more Lauren. And I go, okay, why? And she goes, you don't have to get to know him better. So you got to know each other. And I go, God, that sounds. Yeah, because you're intimidated, you know? And, and if you don't know what to say, you don't want to waste his time. And so I would go, okay, so I would go to Lyle. Hey, Lyle, I'm gonna make an appointment with Lauren. Okay. How long have I been?

Two weeks. Two weeks. And I go, he's, but I didn't. I'm like, wait a minute, he's here every night. And I go, okay, all right, two weeks it is. And then two weeks goes by, and now I'm getting a little more scared and scared. You know what I mean? It's building up. You could have just walked in the room and gone, hey Lauren, how's it going?

Right, but it wasn't presented to me like that. And I was nervous and intimidated. And then it's time for our meeting. And I wait for two hours outside his office. And then I'm a wreck. I'm like two weeks, now I'm waiting two hours. This wasn't even a meeting that it was my idea. Well, he probably doesn't even know

you have what the meeting is about either. No, and then finally when I get in there, I'm like, I'm not having a habit of having understand. I thought maybe he wanted to meet with me and, and, but he didn't and I didn't. So there was a lot of dead air and then he goes, um, sure you're the writers writing for you. I go, yeah, not, not too much. Well, you'll do used to bake cookies if that helps. And I'm like, it doesn't, but, uh, maybe I could give blow jobs. I'm not a baker. You said that to him? No, that was just me in my head.

I wish I would have had that since a few. I was too scared to have a sense of humor. Something like a macadamia nut would be out Frank and would eat the whole plate. So go ahead. But I was just, when I left, and I'm just thinking to myself, I feel like I just got kicked in the butt by Marcy. Like, you just, he never wanted to meet with me.

Maybe she was trying to help you by going if you guys talked, but it turned into a whole thing and it turned into a whole disaster. Yeah, two weeks later, two hours later, and I'm like walking in with my legs shake and I was like, my knees were knocking and I had nothing prepared. You walked out going,

Lauren wants me to learn Dekapaj. I remember when it was Christmas and I thought, what do you get Lauren? And I remember getting him. I would really, really think about what I would get him. And then one time I got him a how to a jungle kid. Because it cracked me up. It made me laugh.

And so after I would always go, Lauren, how's the juggling going? Is it getting easier or are you getting the hang of it as if he ever opened the box and it would just make me laugh. And it made him laugh, I think. No, I think that's very funny The trick is starting with one ball and just going up and down for a while

You know what I do I do I lose stamina and then I use tennis balls and then it just it's all sure And that maybe next Christmas of a fire eating kit would be nice. Maybe magic set I did get them one of those old fashioned candy machines, you know, that with red, you put a quarter in, and it was awful, a jelly bellies. I bought it, and then I just filled it with jelly bellies because I know he liked those, you know. But I was always trying to think of something that, you know, what do you get somebody who you leave it waiting two hours and two weeks.

This is wonderful. Marcy, can you put it in your trunk? Oh, that's what I need. You guys could have got it for David because of the hypoglycemic thing. I need juice. I need juice. I was falling down right and left.

We found it later, it was stress related. Anyway, really? I don't know. I can't trace it back to anything. Any shows you're working on? I'm like, I'm gonna stress related. Anyway, really? I don't know. I don't know. I'm gonna trace it back to anything. Any shows you're working on? I'm like, I can't think of anything off top of my head. All right, well, anything left for Sherry? She's been hilarious.

My question is just, how did you feel on the show when you had the morning latte talk show with Will, you had cheerleaders? There was a period in your five years where you were like everyone was talking about you I'll just say you know, sure. I'll tell you if you see her she's you know so funny So did you get a little more relaxed during that time or did people start to write for you a little more because they're what you did You had a lot of hits never I mean, that's why I got lucky like with the view. I didn't write the view But and I was always hey, do you want to know something funny? I just got asked.

I just got asked, and this is something I did not write. I was asked to do, and I was so scared to do it. I don't know. I think Tina wrote her or something, but they're doing a documentary on Robin Bird. Oh, wow. The late night porn talk show host in New York, public access. Yeah, public access.

I just remember thinking to myself, I'm watching, you see a talk show, you see this in a rerun of an air girl or whatever the news. And then that channel would pop up. And I'm like, is this allowed? Like this was wild to me. Right, I was New York TV or something.

I was shocked. Midnight or one, two in the morning or something. Yeah. And I just remembered thinking to myself, this is wild and they asked me to do it. And I'm like, I'm not wearing a crochet bikini. That's not gonna happen. So I cheated and wore bike shorts

with a crochet top with the boobs already in it. And yes, I was just asked, they're doing a doctor, maybe I was like, yes, I'd love to because I did meet her. And wow. Yes, yeah, it was pretty, pretty cool. But I would say, yeah, that's something I didn't write. And I was like, okay, that's pretty cool.

And Morning Latte, I just, one summer, I just watched every morning show. And I wanted to do a talk show so bad, but I didn't know what the hook would be. And I just, that was my favorite sketch to do. It was Morning Latte, not that it was like, you know, the biggest hit or anything, but because I loved playing these ill-informed, confident characters. Like so

ill-informed, yet they, it doesn't throw them off at all. Cockey idiots. Yeah, cocky idiots is always a great area to be. But I don't even think they were cocky. There was an innocence about them. And, um, you know, Will and I had that same kind of sense of humor. And it's that optimism, you know, under, you know, just completely ridiculous circumstances of being ill and form or rejected. Yeah. He both played that perfectly. Wow. So is your TV on, Sherry? I'm sorry. Can I go turn it off right now? God, damage. We can do it. So let's go back 15 minutes. So when you first got to the ground lains, we'll just redo that. I'm kidding. That was fine. It's fine. They got magic.

They could take anything out. Sherry, oh, Terry, you're so funny. But let me tell you something about Sherry, oh, Terry, everybody loves us. She's the peak of Saturday that I'd love. The characters would crave. Ha! You know what? I want to say one thing that hit me like a ton of bricks. And I guess it was just right before the pandemic. I'm watching Anderson Cooper.

And that, you know, New Year's Eve show. And then you come out as Barbara Walters and literally dismantle the podium. It was so fucking funny. Did you write that or it was just went on and on and on. God, that was funny. I wrote, I did write it because I got so used to, and what I love about, you know,

the age range of us and Anderson Cooper and is there, and Andy Cohen is there's an nostalgia that they just love. And what I loved about doing Barbara Walters was there's nostalgia just within her for decades and decades, yet she's got to talk about what's currently going on. I did that two years in a row and it was fun because I really had to think of, okay, what is the recap of what happened this past year? What might she talk about? But then she always has to drop in who she thinks is impressive.

I was on a, you know, with, you know, and I always love saying, you know, uh, uh, uh, girl master George Fomon, uh, girl master, you know, uh, Madeline Albright, uh, and then like, you know, who she thinks it and then I just love doing, um, uh, bomb, uh, bombshell Lonnie Green and, you know, and funny man, Sheki Green. And we were all because you always just think about, you know, who she hangs out with and she was named after us, political sports and pop culture and actors. And then, but then, when they asked me to do it this past time, I go, I can't do Barbara Walters again.

I gotta be myself. But that was so scary. So what I did was. Yeah, they introduced you and you were a hologram or what was it? I mean, you just said you were. No, no, I was live this last year. I wrote something to be pre taped because I didn't think they were gonna Okay, you know, I didn't want to fly and New York. It was it was the worst part of the pandemic. I would say

but So I had these Crochet I don't know if you guys remember this in the 70s. They were like crochet dolls that you put over toilet paper rolls, spare toilet paper rolls. So my friend's mother made a shit load of them in the 70s and they were all present and she gave me some and I'm just thinking to myself, is if I'm gonna, you know, put these out. And I just thought to myself, wouldn't it be funny? Like if I'm trying to bring back the crochet to the paper cozy and each one of them has a story and each story was something that happened this past year. You know what I mean? Like I had a canceled Carmen. I had Christmas Karen. I had insurrection. I reen. and Baroness Becky, covering the whole royal thing

of the past year. And it was so much fun to do, but I did it as a pre-tap because I had all these props. And I'm like, that podium up there is like eight feet by four feet. Well, you can also control a little better, and you can do a few takes.

You can get it nail it perfectly or whatever. Yeah, but we didn't get to rehearse. I rehearse at once. Oh, you did it. Wait, you didn't live, but you were home. No, no, no. I, I, I, I prepared, I thought I was going to be able to pre-tap it. And then they said to me, like, two weeks before I had already written it, sharing the boys

want you there live. And I go, oh, I can't do this live. It's props and this and that. No, they want you live. Can't do it live. And I go, I've got an actual toilet tank in this. And then they go, we'll provide you with a toilet tank. I'm like, shit. So they did.

I had a toilet tank on that thing. It was, but it was that thing. It was, but, you know, it was really, it was fun. It was fun. It's really nice of those guys to kind of like give me that platform to be creative. Because, you know, you do miss that about SNL. It's like your mind can go anywhere. You dream of.

I don't mean to sound like a kid in Disneyland, but it's like, I never limited myself to what my mind would think, you know? It was shocking to go, I thought of the stupid sketch, Tuesday. I'm sitting with the art department on Thursday and they're designing this dumb thing I thought of and they're like, so serious, we'll make it perfectly like this, we'll bring this in, we can get it from New Jersey.

I'm like, for this stupid, okay, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. I remember going down to approve my actual house, you know, the Italian lady on the porch. And it was the exterior of a full house. And I was so in awe and overwhelmed that my, what I thought of has been built. And Kate, there's someone who's like, hey, is this your vision? Is this what, this is kind of what we thought

from reading it. You're like, no, and they'll tweak anything for you. They were amazing. I mean, we had the most talented people behind the scenes. And even like, when we would do the wigs, the wigs were always so funny. When we, Molly and I did leg up, I'll never forget we had this joke because our wigs got bigger each time we did it. And then we did it to a point where we were crying, we were laughing so hard. Our wigs were so huge.

You know, and it was appropriate too for those characters, but not that huge each time they got bigger and bigger and bigger until Lauren said, the wigs are co-starring. Very Lauren. Exactly. The wigs are co-starring. It's just the thing of like we really want to see the character not just hair on dress. Jerry's 5'8 with her wig.

Could we please. This is it the wig sketch now. All right. Thank you Sherry and thank you, Dana. Sherry, you're the greatest. You're so funny. Sherry is a score machine. Really got to understand you.

We never got to have dinner together or hang out, but you're so observant about your characters, and that's what makes you a great writer. And you tease everything out. So yeah, we're like, you know, sister brother from another mother. So just appreciate you, girl. All right, I love you guys. Bye, Sherry. Love you guys.

Love you, love you, David. Miss you, Miss you, Dana. Hey, what's up, flies? What's up, please? What's up, people that listen? We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions? Ask us anything.

Anything you want. You can email us at flyinthewwallatcadens13.com. Now, one more question. Then we'll get Dany to get one of his four protein bars, I brought four. I feel sick. These are just candy bars. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no something you should eat too much of. We're gonna talk later. We're gonna talk later. May cause diarrhea in an hour, but for sure, we're on two hours.

I would like you to write down what you eat in a given week, and let's get that GI problem you have. You've got a lower GI problem. I do. I'm looking at you. What? And you need a liquid IV. Well, look at your posture.

I'll pent up in there. You've got a little pooch. Come on, let's talk later. What are we talking about? Look, I'm a health nut. I don't want to help you. I don't look bad. Do I?

Jesus Christ. I'm joking. I'm a comedian. How'd I get the elevator ready? I don't put me in the elevator. Not like last week. I don't put me in the elevator. The elevator's at 120 degrees.

I don't want to be in any elevator. Okay, we found us. We don't want to do it better. I like it. Too late. Too late. You do. I'm storing my life. Okay, we have a question from Charlotte Mars. Hi, boys. Charlotte Mars. Hello. Why you're a dessert for the eyes? You're a tall drink of water.

I'm Charlotte Mars. And I have a question for you boys. Go ahead, David. She says, Hi, boys. If you had to swap places with each other and start in one of the other's movies, which would you pick? Charlotte from England. From England. You can hear the start shivering, Rich. People are kind of, I wouldn't have worn this goofy hat if I knew we were over in Europe. If you'd like to do it character in the movie of Davey's what will it be? Is that had all the rage? Why do you wear costumes? You look silly.

You're never gonna get a last to fancy you. I would probably steal Dana in. I know, it's a perfect swap. Yeah, what we do. You would do Garth, because you wouldn't even need to wear a wig. You had the long blonde hair and boyish face can I see the can I see the teeth Say party on we

And I would do Joe dirt. Oh you want Joe dirt? Yeah, hey, I'm Joe dirt Yeah, you ever fuck a pig. Hey, well, I don't know if you saw it. It's not exactly Big gets a laugh in the room It's not expected a's It's not expected A little squeal I Do red red neck either red neck comedian, but I would I would substitute Joe Dirt Yeah, you know, we do your catchphrase when we golf

Red red neck either red neck in the world's worst red neck comedian you ever crap so big You don't know gonna get down that turlitt come on Geese Yeah, you ever fart so loud you got a dog to stay the way go what that come We do you make a pot you go come on he's on me go come on I make t-shirts that's that's my best catchphrase I search the thing come and get some We do it is positive it's not negative like you get out of Joe's earth's catchphrase Oh We do need much. It's not negative. It's not negative. Like, you get out of it. What was Joe Dirt's catchphrase? Oh, like, cigar and dup.

How would he say it? Well, he would say what's crappin' in. What's crappin' in? What's crappin' in? God, I can't remember. It sounds, it's a little less than sunny. It's a sunny, almost, right?

Yeah. I wanna go, I'm trying, I'm Joe Dirt. I'd like to go meet my mama. Joe Dirt's a nice guy. Joe Dirt's a little forest company But what was how southern was it was just sort of subtle like yeah, it wasn't super deep But it was kind of like man this girl might be your sister Yeah, I see that guy a little Casey Casey. I'm looking for my mama and my daddy. My name's Joe dirt

Yeah, you know which way I should go I already went that way you fucking with me. I love time I get too stupid Which way is dirt road? I'm gonna do a character called dummy dirt. Hey, I got to take a crap. Where do I do it? I'm dummy dirt. Can you put your finger in my bunghole get one get going? I'm waiting hitchhiking. I knew my phone was in my friend's bunghole. Does that mean I like failures? No, thanks for just giving me the whole sequel. Well, that's it. So thank you. Well, thank you.

Thank you, England, for getting us to get through and our reputations over it. I just like to say, we've got to start up our nuclear power packs. Michael Kay. You're welcome. Michael Kay, this end of this podcast, you stop betting his best.

The hat's too funny. It doesn't make any sense. He's changing his cold stubs every two minutes. Of course, the whole thing's gone to crap. I wouldn't let you to it another time, if I were you. And a flyer in a wall is not what it's about. I'm Michael Kay. I'm a hundred and eleven.

He's four round. Of course. Is he? Yeah hundred and eleven. He's still around? Of course. Is he? Yeah, he is. He's good. Why, are you offering me a movie? It's a yes. He does a lot of movies.

Okay, thanks for coming, guys. Thanks for got to run. Thanks for coming. I'm going to stick around and check out the elevator of the mansion. Woo! Baby! This has been a podcast presentation of Cadence 13. Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes.

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