Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Chloe Fineman

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

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1-866-531 2600 to talk to an advisor free of charge bet MGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario Chloe Feynman coming up about time. Yeah, it's nice We enjoy getting current cast members on our podcast. It's very interesting to hear what's going on right now at 8H in New York City. She was about to do the Dua Lipa show. She had to do an impression of Dua Lipa.

We talk a lot about how you go about learning an impression. She and Dana gave us some pointers of how it comes from being assigned an impression or you come up with your own impressions and how tricky that is. She will talk about how she got Timothee Chalamet. Oh yeah, she does him. And she does a very good. And she finds little hooks. She's a gifted. She is a gifted impressionist, but she's also an actress and a great sketch player. She has a lot of great stuff on that show and she's

blowing up as they say. She's blowing up. We talked about what advice Lauren gives her, what Lauren gave us, lots of funny stuff. She was very loose and fun. I didn't know really much about her personality because I just see her on the show, but great to get to know her. We had a lot of laughs and, uh, we cracked up a lot. I really had a great time talking to her. Yeah, definitely. That's another, another charming young lady joined us and, uh, you know, and we

spent a lot of time asking about what people are saying about us in 8-H Colonel. No, it's always. It's always fun and she was fascinating and adorable. She's a really, really sweet, lovely person. Yeah, here she is Chloe Feynman. That dog isn't scheduled till Friday. That dog has no sag card. Get around. Come on. No.

Okay, Chloe, I have a character, a new character for you. No, no, no. A person trying to get on Zoom with technical voices coming in. Go to AR7. Do you see a blue dot? No. Do you have a Bebop Deluxe button? Do you see a big yellow button in the corner

and like some sort of Roman numerical numbers in the upper left hand. It looks like a collider. All right, let's click out and drag in. We've been through this for years. It's very common. Martin Short took 45 minutes. Did he?

Okay, that makes me feel wonderful. I was kind of giving it, but I think a half hour. Okay. And I took 10 minutes. He's 99. And I'm, that's, yeah, that's, are you guys in LA? That factors out about right. Southern California, undisclosed location.

Okay. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Okay. Okay. I don't need any paps in my life. Like I'm really, really getting followed a lot. So you're in the white hot world of Saturday Night Live and you're living in Manhattan.

Yeah. Wow. Zoom in from the kitch. Did you live in New York before, spend time in New York before you got S&L? I did. Not to be, you're from, did you ever live in Northern California?

Oh yeah, no, I'm from San Carlos and you're from Piedmont. Yeah, Berkeley is what I tell people. Is Piedmont next to Cokland? Piedmont is a really, really nice place. I've done it. Yeah. My brother lives there. But the name kind of sucks.

Does he really? Piedmont right now. Really? That's insane. Yeah. Yeah, my bro lives there. But the name kinda sucks. Does he really? Piedmont right now. Really? That's insane. Yeah. Is it next to Cochland or not? Oakland. Oh, I get it.

God damn, I'll say it one more time. I'm not gonna walk you through all of them. You can only use that joke when someone near Oakland is on the podcast. My driver, I went to see my brother, of course I have a driver, and he goes, welcome to Oakland. I'm like, what?

That's new. I keep track of these Oakland jokes. That's David's seventh. Yeah. Oakland. Within four minutes. Wow. No, it was more of a marijuana place growing up. I grew up in Berkeley,

and then in high school I moved to Piedmont. Berkeley's pretty cool. Yeah, cooler. The first time I lived in New York, I was like doing something anyway. I was like 25, 26 and had never been to New York. So I just wondered, you'd lived there before and then you get back and now you have the coolest job you can have in New York, probably. Yeah, I went to college here. So I've been here in the West Village for like over almost 20 years. That wasn't on your research, was it? Okay.

I guess so. My first 20 minutes, I got to tear up. No, no, no. Yeah, I went to school here. So I've been here since I was like 18, I'm 35. Okay. Yeah. And did you ever walk by Rockefeller Center? You knew that's where SNL was and kind of go, huh?

I had a really exhausted roommate who was an intern. She was like a page and she was so tired, but so happy. That was the only knowledge of it. I went to like drama school, so I thought I would do like Shakespeare. I never thought I would be here. Can you give us a little Shakespeare? What's the ultimate Shakespeare?

Robin Williams did a lot of, he was doing Shakespearean stuff, and he always had one leftover Shakespearean thing he wouldn't use the mic but he was just being Ron Williams oh look the moon it hangs low like a testicle in the sky like that was he did that a thousand bit of a hybrid yeah Is this a penis I see before me come, let me clutch thee. Here we go. Clutch.

Oh, it's common problem. If the mic went down, Robin would always go, oh common problem. He had so many, we love him. But so what else do you want to talk about Sarah? Sarah Sherman. Oh, we know you're the doofy buddy Sarah. Yeah, my little freakazoid pal.

How is, I want to ask you that you did the Paramount. She hit me up and said, we're doing the Paramount after you. And I was like, look at these girls within minutes. They're doing the same theater I'm doing after I've been sweating and slugging it away for 50,000 years. And then, um, I think it probably sounded like fun, but how does that happen with you two and then what do you do? Uh, that's a good, you know, we're very fun, but how does that happen with you two? And then what do you do?

Uh, that's a good, you know, we're very different, but it works. Um, yeah, too. I think we're obviously Sarah's like extremely disgusting and nauseating. And there was like a 30 minute slideshow of, of, of like a vagina prosthetic that Louie was mad at her that he didn't get to make and it is so disgusting. And then I come out and I do my impressions but I make them orgasm. So it's like, it's like a rated X. Yeah, yeah. I try and fit it. It's an after dark kind of show. Well, you have your crossover audience from SNL, and so it's more potent,

and then it would be like me and Dana going out. It's like people that like it go, oh, if they like one, they'll take the other, or they like you both, you know, that's always fun. And it sounds like it's a very intriguing show that I would see for sure. I think it sounds just fun, because I don't know what it is.

And so people just want to go, because you're both good and you're both funny. So that's a good start. And also your personas, we're just meeting you now, which is fun. And Sarah is sort of sweet. I don't know. Or you're not like kind of, you know, and then when you're working blue, it has this energy to it. You don't expect it. Two nice little Jewish perverts coming out. Two nice little Jewish perverts coming out. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, I saw when we did Chloe the, I used to work at the show too. When we did the whatever Sandler's tour and then she was on with me. It was so funny because I didn't know her at

all. And then she was actually super easy to talk to, super fun. She's very magnetic personality, she's very sweet. And then she gets out, I don't know her act at all. Then she's like, New York, where's funny York? Sticks the mic out and they kind of go, hey, there's a couple here. All right, what about that pizza? How about the garbage?

And then now they've stopped applauding. What about abortions? What about that? And she goes on for another 19 times around the side going, now I love it because she doesn't give a fat fuck at all. And makes it better. No, she did a lot of

chilling abortion material in texts. Abortion chunk, yep. Yeah, big abortion chunk. It was great. That's awesome. And you gotta follow it. I'd be backstage going, I'm up there going, should I do 7-Eleven and McDonald's? If you're orgasming as your impressions,

which are really stout and steep. Yeah, I wanna hear a few of those, rather than dog-ear that. Just to get the, which one kills the artist? Which one do they eat up? You know, it's different every It's different every place. Um, I've been doing it for years. I'm always like, God, this is so hack, but you know, not everyone's, I'd say like Drew Barrymore starts strong. They're, they all,

they all do pretty good. And then I think I do way too many than I should people get. And then they're kind of like laughing just to be nice. Texas, the Ted Cruz orgasm does better. Yeah. Yeah, there's like some old, like an old Melania Trump one. I do them all, I just do them all.

Oh, you do? Do you do Melania? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Of course. Did I say it right? I think so. Malania? Yeah. Malania. Malania.

Close enough. Malania. Yeah. Malania. Malania. Close enough. Malania. Yeah. You know what we're talking about. And do you do, I've seen you do men. Is it harder or is there any difficulty to do men? I can do like beautiful boys. I think like a boyish, a beautiful boyish man

is much easier. Real, real men. No, I think they're so hard. Harry Styles, I remember like doing in front of Harry Styles at the show and I bombed so badly. Horrible horse. Was it on air? No, no, no.

And like he was like looking at me and disgust. But yeah, doing it. And I, and I, most of the men I do, I happen to do it in front of them. And it's not right. Timothy's Chalamet is kind of your, I mean, he's, he's so huge right now. He's the only one who doesn't. There it is. Yeah.

Yeah. But he's nice about it. You can tell it's, I don't know. I'm like a lot older than, I just feel like this like weird older woman just like obsessed with these little boys. He's very kind about it. Um, but it's hard not to, I don't know if you have this where you like slip into the slip into the voice when you're around the person. No, cause you're sort of mimicking, you're picking it up as you go probably. Yeah. And they give you all these, like, yeah, he was totally, totally. Dane is great at that.

Well, we're, you know, sister, brother from another mother. Yeah. I get with your, Timothy, you, yeah, you find, you find these rhythms and hooks and then they really help you get in. It's like, what's that sound you just made as Timothy? So like, Rrrr. Yeah, it was like,

listening to a lot of interview. This was like before he became huge. I started working on him and it was like, growing up in New York, uh-huh, you do this, and then you're growing up in New York as an actor and it kind of like rhythm, like, goes like that,

and then he laughs. Yeah, and that's it. Yeah. Just like a 19 year old billionaire, he's like the most famous guy they don't, they don't give a shit. That's why he doesn't get mad. You're kind of, you're in that mold where you're accurate,

but you're also an abstractionist. You're making it into a character. I tried to. I think that's like after, like Lauren will talk about other people. You know, I don't know if he does that here where he talks about other people to kind of have you be clean insight into yourself. And he'd always talk about you or Fred. Clean. And not being, having a take. Yeah, not being like so, it's not like a buy-out pick.

Right, it's just sort of a, it's probably going to get laughs. Sorry, Dana, it's probably going to get laughs. Meanwhile, I'm the guy that doesn't do impressions, but it gets more laughs when I watch you or Dana when it's a little obscure and hooky. Yeah, but I show your little lord. I show your little lord. God damn, I thought of a good Lord the other day. How long did it take you before you had a Lord?

Like day one or? Yeah. Honey, I think as soon as I sat across, the first time I met him, I was like, oh, this is never leaving. The first thing he asked, you have to like meet him. He was, I'm from the Bay Area,

and he was like, are your parents hippies? And then that was... I like when he talks nothing about like, you're auditioning for the show, come in, come in, wait five hours. Then you come in and he's like, do you like baseball? You're like, what? I know.

It's just something, nothing about show business or anything. I just like to get a feel. He told me once, I go, Lauren, I'm looking for an apartment. What are you up to, David? He's totally bored with nothing else to do. David, come in. And I'm like to get a feel. He told me once, I go, Lauren, I'm looking for an apartment. What are you up to, David? He's totally bored with nothing else to do. David, come in.

And I'm like, oh. And then he goes, sit down. I'll make some calls. And then he goes, when he's done with the calls, he goes, hmm, what's going on with you? Basically like, are you still on the show? So I go, yeah, yeah. And I go, yeah, I'm looking for an apartment, but I'm a little torn because one's like, are you still on the show? So I go, yeah, yeah. And I go, yeah, I'm looking for an apartment,

but I'm a little torn because one's like upper west side and one's like lower upper west side, but one was a little more expensive. And he goes, it's important where you live. I know. He's very- Right. I think it's more of the price point. Yes, wait. The thing he said to me, which is why I'm always like, which is why we're trying to do these paramount shows as much as possible. He was like, you always want to live in a place you can't quite afford. Oh, it's very close to what he said to me. Exactly. It's very important. So it is money is not a problem. And I'm like, is it though? I think it is. I think. Yeah. Do you, have you been in like, okay, you're on 8H and Lauren's office is on the ninth floor

and there's glass, I'm painting a picture for the listeners. And then you see the rehearsal down there and you're up there hanging out with them talking about something. And then in his own incredible Lauren way, you know, be like, Kevin's going through that, you know, it's the second season and where is way, you know, be like, Kevin's going through that, you know, it's the second season and where is this, you know, he cycle analyzes not in a very sweet way, not mean, but you always wonder what he says about you when you're down there.

I'm so terrified. I have very close friends who are writers on the show and they just will not tell me. And I know it's awful and would like never get out of my head. What Chloe's is she's kind of stuck in a, uh, and they're like, well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But then I feel like when he talks about other people and maybe it's that crazy making, but you're like, is he trying to say something about me? You know, where it's like, well, show and show is, you know, if you're doing

the same thing you did in your first year and your fifth year, it's time to go. You know, and you're hard enough, hard enough to be like, yeah, but it's hard to take it constructively and move on. Yeah. Yeah. One time he said to me, anything new or are you pretty much played out? One time he said to me, anything new or are you pretty much played out? Did Bush senior and Bush junior have another baby? There might be another third one to do.

Yeah, and it does kind of scare you. I mean, I was, this is in the 80s, early 90s. I'd worry about the show because he'd get me worried and I'm like, it's summertime and I'm like, and you're also killing on the show. Well, you know, but I got remarkably the same. Chloe, it's summertime. And I'm like, hope the show does well. You know, but it's remarkably the same. Chloe, I have one. He told me, this is the last thing we'll talk about. He said, he goes, I see you on a lot of talk shows.

I go, mm-hmm. He goes, anything to add to that? And he goes, well, they can't miss you if you don't go away. Ooh, that's a good one though. That's a lot of talk shows. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, hey, not now. It's like doing commercials. I think he was saying in general with celebrities, do a movie, lay low. That was actually the old school now. Yeah. Now it's podcast and shit. But you know, just go away. But that doesn't work anymore.

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I'm trying to, oh. Chloe, what's a P foul? Gosh, that was a bird. Is that a peacock? Yeah, yeah, it's like. Ah, ah, ah. Maybe that was my peacock. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, maybe that was my first impression. Yeah. We had a bird calling contest at my weird high school. Uh,

and then we were flown and went on David Letterman when I was like 15. Fucking sweet. He was kind of dirty. Yeah. Yeah. He said, or we were dirty. We didn't know we were, we were said something about like feeling your inner bird, but you were like these like 15 year old girls. It was weird, but it was on TV. And- Was that dirty? I don't know.

He was like, whoa. I think I saw that. You saw her doing her P foul? Yeah. I mean, I remember the bird call thing and it sound, just do it again. Cause it's reminiscent. I must've. All the way from like. and it sounds, just do it again, because it's reminiscent, I must say. I'm just like, ah, ah, ah.

All the way from like, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, ah. It was, the way. Oops. I have to get up? No, no, the way they do it in the high school is like, you kind of put on like, sketch, it's like you do bird sketch. You like develop a sketch.

Right. Right. My friend and I did like, some like, and old, like, I don't know, we're these two old British ladies and then, and then the bird call happens. And so the people who win the bird calling contest, ultimately, I feel like have not hellishly bad sketch comedy. That's great. You know, I do one, watch this.

This is birds in the morning. God, I'm not hitting the high one. Wait, your sound went out. You do really quiet birds. I do, I play it. Why? Wait, what's the other one? Oh, here's a bird flying away, ready?

You know what? It could have fit right in to your high school. No, you totally, the easiest one was someone, if you like grab your throat for turkey, it's like, that's like, that's early first year. Yeah. So when you're, when you're a little kid and you're, uh, you're seeing people on TV doing what you're doing now, do you remember that feeling? And then you're actually doing it. It's kind of cool.

I mean, did you, I'm trying to think of your age group, like who blew your mind when you were 10 years old? I mean, you guys certainly did. We had a, I'm older, so we had VHS, like best of VHS tapes that I watched in my- Oh, reruns. Yeah, no, no, they were like compilation VHSs. And my best friend had all of them and we'd stay up and watch them all the time as kids.

And then when I was like in high school, that was like the Kristen Will era. But I've been watching it since I was like, I have a video of me as a toddler in Berkeley and the Coneheads are playing in the background. You know, it's just forever. Love the Coneheads. And was your dad an actor or? My dad is an improv guy. No, he's in biotech.

Oh, I just thought maybe. No, he's insane. My mom is a painter and my dad, when my mom was pregnant with my sister, would take me to improv at Fort Mason in San Francisco. And there were a lot of like Robin Williams friends and... Her, her. Her, her.

And I would go to this class with, Rob Schneider would take this drop-in class. Yeah. And then I would do this as a little kid. And then he retired like, I don't know, 10 years ago. Now he goes twice a week. Once on Saturday in San Francisco and then in Marin and Mill Valley on Wednesdays with my mom. Mill Valley? Yeah. Oh, nice. Mill Valley? Yeah.

Schneider's from Half Moon. John Jones. I have a house there. Do you? Okay, I believe you and I might have at one point had the same doctor in Mill Valley. Whoa, he would show you the other guy's x-rays. Huh.

I'll bring it up offline. I don't know, I had a weird doctor who claimed to like do you or do your doctor stuff. Oh really? You should see. Here's some clips of Dana's colonoscopy. No, that exams. I have a doctor. I still have an MD in San Francisco. Oh no. Yeah. Is this blurring you, David? I'm sorry. Dr. Majors. No, because Dana says, no it is, but Dana also, his, when he calls in for his prescriptions, his secretary goes,

oh no, I need your address. Well no, it's like, I call in for the same prescription every 30 days. She's very sweet. You want to do what? Oh. Yeah, I made the same one I did last month. Oh, I'm going to have to talk to the doctor.

And then 30 days later, hi, it's Dana. Same prescription, same pharmacy. So, do you want to do what? Well, don't a lot of people call for prescriptions? Oh, yes. But, so what was the- Wait, I have a Chloe question. Yeah.

Why, I have more of my nurse impression. Oh my God. Oh. I love it. She goes, oh, she's confused. Oh, you have a question for our guest? Well, first of all, she's into fashion. I wonder if this green pops on Zoom.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's one. Definitely. That's from someone who has an Instagram where there's like always like, it's funny to see you go from Siri, funny Chloe, then you're like serious, like knockout, like fashion show. Blue seal. Yeah, that's good. I won't bore you with that, but also Nicole Kidman, I did a comment on one of your Instagrams because the way you say no is so funny and I was trying to relive it with letters, but how is the proper way to say no?

Nor. It's kind of N-A-R. I think it's like N-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-A-A-A-E-E-E-E-R-R, nor, nor. U U U U U U U A A A E E E E R R, nor, nor. Nor. It was so fun. I mean, do you try to do these impressions or do they sometimes just come to you? Like, do you seek out, okay, I'm gonna do a Nicole Kidman.

Sometimes at SNL it helps if you're assigned someone and you're like, okay, I gotta try to learn it. But no one else does Nicole Kidman or is anyone else? Not really. I feel like most of my- Except for Keith Urban. Yeah, yeah. You cornered the market. I think I have weird taste. I just like, I don't know, Meryl, like I auditioned with like Meryl Street, Nicole Kidman, Greta Gerwig. Likeeryl, like I auditioned with like Meryl Streep, Nicole,

Greta Gerwig, like I just really like. Greta Gerwig? Yeah, that was like, that was the only thing. Greta Gerwig? Lorde laughed. That's a new one. That was the only thing he laughed at in my audition. I heard him chuckle.

What was your take on her? Yeah. It's just like. Greta Gerwig. Her like, oh yes, yes, and she talks and you know, these little, yes, like shapes talks in these little shapes and gestures. Yeah. That's funny if you didn't even know who it was.

Yeah, yeah, it's funny. It's just a new episode. Yes. I just remember, it's usually like I get inspired, I guess, when people win awards. There's them on talk shows you get a lot, but I think when someone's like having like an emotional thing happen, I guess like winning an Oscar, I just find it so funny. Like Greta Gerwig was like, yes, yes, these women, yes, yes. Like they're hyperventilating. That's how I got my, Frances McDormand was like, okay, I'm hyperventilating, okay. You know, like inclusion writer, but like she had a hyperventilating,

I don't know. That's usually when they come to me. I don't really seek them out. It just makes me laugh so hard. About award shows and what you're talking about. Does it feel like sometimes they'll win the Oscar like Frances McDormand and then they'll come up and they're exactly the character? Like she's this tough, you know, kind of alpha woman.

Yeah. Sometimes maybe to win an Oscar, you're just go super far away from the character. So that when you get up there, you're like, you know, like talking like this, or you're playing some street hood or something, just an observation. Go. This is like every, every acting class I was ever, ever in. You're crying, you're alone, you're Italian, go. Go, go.

Yeah, she's a name. I want to fan out on some of these. Okay. We've already done those, which I love. Reese Witherspoon, which is like just a sound kind of. Uh-huh. It was like, I was watching her on Oprah and the I love Reese Witherspoon, which is like just a sound kind of. Uh huh. It was like I was watching her on Oprah and the way she said Oprah made me look she was like I'm Oprah and she like I'm murder the way she said murder like really it's like so like like you know it's like like, I mean, I guess what I do,

everything is ultimately a bird call, I realize. Yeah, really. You're all coming from. Rarr, arr, arr. Yeah, kind of how I sound. Jennifer Coolidge is just so, such an interesting. You do that, right? You must.

No, no, I don't. Who, Dana Froze? Did must. No, no, I don't. Who, Dana Frohs? Did I freeze? Keep going, Chloe. Almost in a Jennifer Coolidge way. You could go. Yeah. Oh, I mean, everyone I know has been doing that impression since we were like 10.

Because we grew up American Pie. Oh, that's right. Yeah. But Lauren likes Greta Gerwig because I think when you come on SNL, I only had one impression, but if you come on and do something that hasn't been done, well, yeah, like walk-in is at this point, but to do early walk-in was great. Like I didn't do it, but when you saw it, we saw him, I think Jay Moore, there was some back in the day, I'm like, oh my god, because you don't see it.

And then you see it and you go, oh, it's so clear. It's good to find those. And then so if you see somebody new, that's great. Yeah. I also find, I think it was when I was like auditioning, there were, it was like, don't do Drew Barrymore, don't do Jennifer Coolidge, don't do Christopher Walken. Just stay away. But then I ended up doing Drew Barrymore just because I thought my film was really good. But I do think that's fun. And if I see people do like, God, I saw someone do like Rosamund Pike the other day and I was like, that's awesome. Like that it's exciting, you know?

Yeah, because it's not someone who's overexposed. So then you really have to go, oh, then you go, oh, that's it, you know? Totally, totally. It is fun. I'm lazy, I find it hard. I find it, if I make a goal of doing an impression, it's kind of a bad feeling when you first start and you don't have it at all

and you're just doing it to yourself in a room and you have no, you're start and you don't have it at all and you're just doing it to yourself in a room and you have no, you're horrible. I can't do it at all. It's really a weird, how do you do it? What's your process? Sorry. It's that, no, it's totally that. I mean, I remember, and now I feel like

once you've done enough of them, I feel like in a weird way they all sound the same and so you're like, I'm not good anymore. Right. But I remember. You're starting sound the same. And so you're like, I'm not good anymore. But I remember. You're starting with the same voice, your own voice. And it's hard to make it so different every time. It was easy when I was like alone in LA, like Chalamet was really bad at first,

but I had like the luxury of just kind of being like sad and alone in my hot apartment with no air conditioning. I don't know, like that was easy. And then I was doing stuff at UCB and the groundlings at the time. And the worst one I've ever done, and I still can't get it, was Lena Dunham. It was like for a UCB show.

And I think it was like, if they sound a little too close to your own, to my voice, it's like, my brain just like doesn't know what to do. Right, also, I don't think people, maybe they know, I can't, my brain just like doesn't know what to do. Right. Also, I don't think people, maybe they know when they're listening, but a lot of it is also not just you, it's a writer knocking at your door at like 1 AM on Tuesday going, Hey, can you do a Sydney Sweeney? Cause we got to do one in the scene.

You're like, Oh, oh, tomorrow. Okay. And then you just have to kind of go, all right, I got to find something. And then a funny wig and then, you know, things could help it a little bit, but you've got to, uh, you gotta be ready when you get assigned someone in a sketch. I do feel like if I'm really stuck laughs are such an in, yeah. Now the way they're mount, what their mouth is doing and their last anyway, does that can move around a lot. No, that was that for me. Your mouth can move around a lot.

No, I just find it interesting like you're, okay, so you do all these impressions and everybody knows it. And then you're doing characters and you kind of in a way, you don't want to be couched as like people today. It doesn't really matter to me at this point. Oh, you're the impressionist guy. Well, I go, what about Church Lady Garth and Hans and Franz? They go, oh. So, you know, inventing Chloe, just you as an actress. Oh, this is my new character.

You wanna do, it's like, you wanna do what? I'm gonna have to talk to Lorne. But I just thought inventing Chloe was such a cool and Piper Dunster. And I feel like someone who has an ear and can do these things can also of course do all these other things. It's just that it's on demand on Saturday Night Live.

There's a lot of demand for celebrity impressions. So it's just great for someone with your talent. Yeah. I feel like all of us kind of, you know, you like find the thing that you can get on the show in your first year or two. Sarah, disgusting. Me, Sarah's like prosthetics, brilliant. And then I was like impressions.

And then, you know, you're like, okay, this is like my life raft. Um, but now that I'm in my fifth year, like I don't really done that many this year. I don't know. It's, it's nice that we can stretch ourselves. Like you coming up. Yeah. You go, Sarah's like, guys, nobody do a six foot tall vagina this week as I'm doing it.

I was like, okay, is that like an update? Yeah. But Sarah's like, Sarah Sarah's done amazing characters this year and these awesome pre-tapes. And I kind of really focused on pre-tapes for like back last year and the year before that was the thing. And now I've done a lot more live.

I don't know, it's cool. You can really stretch yourself at the show. What was the character you did a pre-tape with during COVID where you had a short blonde wig and then you played both parts? Ole. Yeah, Ole. And where you had a short blonde wig and then you let you played both parts Yeah, and then you were and she was living with you and then you got to feel did you have to do that all yourself? Or not? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah my boyfriend filming. Yeah, he was in the other room working on a quiddity show wanting to absolutely the whole time

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I have a notion. I don't know what it is, but I, I, I, when I think of you as an actress and wanting to really commit, there's something in my head here that it's you and Sarah, probably presentation, like some sort of science symposium to high school kids or something, and there's little volcanoes and goo, and Sarah starts to make sexual innuendos, and you just get really, really mad. Like you accelerate to, I will fuck you up, you know, basically without saying that. If you do that, one more, you take her aside. I just think you letting go of that kind of anger on, anger on her doing her thing. Or maybe it's a science thing. You write it yourself, but just letting go of that kind of anger on her.

That's a great idea. Doing her thing. Maybe it's a science theory. You write it yourself, but just the rhythm of that. I see you being so funny in that character. We were talking when... I just want to comment on it. We want to go again.

Like when it was Sarah's first year and we got the, please don't, the PDD boys to stay up till like five in the morning writing this sketch where we were like we were kids we were sisters who had come home trick-or-treating we were covered in chocolate like on a sugar high and it was Jason Sudeikis and him and Heidi were like realizing they were going through a divorce and he kept like interrupting being like kept like interrupting being like, I don't know. And it was the hardest bomb ever. The PDD guys were like, that's the worst sketch

we've ever done. And she and I haven't written since. We haven't done anything since, like it's so- Oh really? Yeah, we got to get over, we realized that in Austin. Like I haven't written with the PDDs since this candy thing. It's like- Oh really?

You bought yourself a year- Can you get eye contact in the hallway with the PDD since this candy thing. It's like really, yeah. You bought yourself a year. Can you get eye contact in the hallway with the members? Oh yeah, no, we like love each other. I just was like, God, and it was so long. I think everyone's forgotten, but sometimes when you bomb that badly, it's like hard to recover a bit. Well, what if you're at Science Fair and you're in high school,

this is more of a sketch, because it's a dryer. Oh. Because it's a dryer. Oh. She goes, it's like the volcano is coming. And then you go, can I talk to you for a second? Same kind of thing. You escalating, getting angry, you know, like hair, frizzy wig. I just feel like basically, I don't know. Do the PDD guys write their own stuff? I just feel like basically, I don't know.

No, they take your suggestions. Um, no, they, yeah, they work, they work really well with the cast. Um, and then they do their own stuff. Jake, so there's a couple for them. Oh no, no, they would never do that. Although there's a writer Jake Nordwind who he pitched something to them and it didn't go but you know they're open to ideas. There's a lot of like today's Monday so when I get to work everyone will be in Mike DiCenzo and Jake's office or PDD's office and they all kind of like give each other ideas in a way.

Right. Who's the host? Who's the host? Dua Lipa. Oh, nice. Hmm. Yeah. Who's the music?

Dua Lipa. Double. Who's gonna be in most of the sketches? Duel. There's a lot of doubles lately. I don't know if I love it. There I said it. There's a lot of duas, I don't know if I love it. There's a lot of do is get it.

That was so bad. Yep. I'm going to do it all week. I used to be a licensed therapist. Oh, I didn't know that. So where are you? You're five years in, you're doing great on the show. You have all your buddies there. You're in the trenches with everybody.

What's your, what, What is your headspace like? Are you feeling like, because some people like Eddie Murphy, day one they're like at a 10. As far as comfort there in your fifth season, are you feeling good, excited, or you're still, like where are you at? Where are you at? Where are you at? I mean, we only have three shows left, so I definitely, and it's 80 degrees in New York, so it's definitely that like senior vibe. I also think- Yeah, summer's coming. Junior items a little bit.

There's also, I remember there's like those life rafts you need in a year, you know? Like you need enough things to hit to feel like you're not getting fired. I still, I mean, because I knew people in their fifth think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like,

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I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like, I'm not gonna write with you. Did they say wins? I never even heard that. Wins, you know, just something that they make their mark. Really? I know, it makes sense. Hits, yeah. They were like, you've had a good run. We've had a couple doubles, but not a home run lately.

Yeah, yeah. They're like, I need to help. Cause when you reach out to writers, like I'll try and help you with this, but I need to help so-and-so get a hit. It is hard to ask a writer. I would ask Smigel or I'd ask Conan, and they're like, they're already busy with hit. It is hard to ask a writer. I would ask Smigel or I'd ask Conan and they're like, they're already busy with something.

It's hard to go, Hey, I have a knock knock. I have a dog shit idea that's not formed at all. Yeah. Did you spend three hours cracking the code with me to make it a C plus? Yeah. Yeah. We're busy. No, I have a lot of like, I don't know.

I'm not as like brazen about writing. Like I'm like, I have to have, I hate wasting their time. And like, I'm the most nervous on the show just in terms of like letting writers down and the fears that they won't want to work with me again. Because that is like the only way to survive the show. And so I don't really care about if the sketch, I guess I only care about like, well, these people help me write it. And if they cut it,

those people aren't gonna write it. You know, so like that is a big part of it. And having enough of- It's real, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it does that thing of like, I can waste this writer's time for like two hours trying to crack my horrible idea. Or I can just like,

My wispy idea. suffer alone until I somehow have an idea. I've gotten better with it. I don't like suffocate writers to help me. I don't know, if I don't have something, I'll be like, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna sleep on this and not like ruin someone's, I don't want to ruin relationships. You just gave me a sense memory of like Tuesday night at 2 a.m. I know, sick.

And you're in a room with a writer and everyone's just like this. Yeah. And the idea is the souffle is just deflated. It's just like five minutes of no talking and then like what if maybe if Farley could come in To the ceiling and save it No one's no one is laughing everyone's like bloodshot eyes and it's like well Kenan could enter Kenan's are Yeah, yeah

100% Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Right. Keenan is so articulate and so clear and has such a strong voice and he has like a mischievous vibe about him. Like he's not breaking, but you clearly see he's enjoying it. By the way, I just want to ask you- He really held together that Beavis and Buttheads guy. I was going to ask you about the Beavis and Buttheads because I know you came in at the end I think. So I thought because

Ryan Gosling is such a huge star and his attitude, he's kind of breaking the whole show, but it's so entertaining. But that's kind of a famous show and now a famous sketch of the most broken. So That's kind of a famous show and now a famous sketch of the most broken. So just speak from your point of view. I mean, it was, well, for Mikey, none of us knew that's what he, even when we were- Oh, really? That's what I thought.

They escalated it, right? Well, we knew, yeah, like when we blocked it on Thursday, everyone was laughing just because of the lines that Ryan and Mikey have are so stupid. Like I think Ryan has a line. Yeah. Where he's like, I actually have a really busy life. Like that would always make Mikey like the dumbest line ever. I actually have a. And you think he's not talking to him? He's like this guy over here.

Yeah. Yeah. And then they ad-lived on Thursday or maybe it's Friday when we're blocking the like, I don't know this, hi, John, nice to meet you. Like that was added. Uh, but then yeah, just Mikey just looked so fucking dumb. It was, it was shocking. What was the difference in his makeup between, cause everyone had seen it. It wasn't. Yeah. We all saw it at dress.

I think it was just the, it was like this. He just changed it up a few percentage points. He just made himself like 20% dumber. It's all you need. Yeah. And Kenan never brought, like Kenan carried that. Like I don't think the sex would have worked as much if you didn't have Kenan doing that. It would not have. So the point when like by the time it got-

No, he kept it rolling. Yeah. By the time it got to me, I was like, I can't like super break, it's annoying. Like- Yeah. Right, it was already, yeah, cause- Did Heidi stop? Heidi was already, that was- Yesterday?

Yeah, yeah, I think so. I don't know, I'll see her today. I would see her in two weeks. Ask her. Yeah, but Heidi never breaks. That was what was so delightful about it. I've never seen her break. That was very adorable. And it was more than a break. It was laugh out loud. That was what was so delightful about it. I've never had a break. Right.

And it was more than a break. It was laugh out loud. That was a gut laugh. It made me laugh. I think that thing has like 20 million views or something. I mean, it's really kind of a- That's awesome. It's awesome.

And it's- Did Mike, yeah. Well, Mikey and Heidi have known each other forever. So I think it's also like two long time friends. I think she's, yeah, with a lot of love for each other. So it's like, it was so hard, hard. Yeah, there's a lot of love behind that too. It was just great.

It was fun to see everyone looked funny in it. The Beavis and the Clubhead and then just seeing that. And then she really like got like, she can't stop, which is always fun to watch. Just fun one. And Ryan Gosling's a huge star. It's all fun. The construction of the writing,

of having Keenan be the voice of the audience. A stupid AI conversation. They look like beings of that and that and that. And then the seriousness and back and forth. It's sort of just a really well, it operated in all cylinders. It did. But I don't know if you know this,

but they have pitched that sketch so many times. I didn't know that. Oh, really? Yeah, there's a Jonah Hill dress rehearsal you can watch. Wow. Oh yeah, this is like the third time maybe. And they said the Jonah Hill one's hilarious. It just never made it past the finish line. So it was cool when it happened on air,

all these writers came down, like Streeter Seidel was there watching it. Cause I think he has taken that thing to table like five times. Jeez. Well, motivational speaker didn't get on right away. That took a long time. Really? And that's people would be shocked.

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would be the Wiley veteran or you came in with Bowen and just Shane. Shane for Shane. Yeah. Did you meet Shane when that happened or you never even got to me? No, no, a part of me like, no, I met him at like one of those like Lauren baseball games, like two years later and he was so sweet. Can you get us some hot dogs, Chloe? Yes, what would you like on it?

What do you want, relish, Shane? You met him there? He was there? Yeah, at a baseball game, like two years later. Yeah, it was crazy. Oh, two years later? Yeah, yeah. But Bowen was a writer before I was, so I really felt very new. But Bula, Dan Bula and I were the same year.

Love Dan Bula. Genius. Bula's solid. And you came in as feature writer or just feature or? Cast. Cast. I was just thinking. Name?

What? No, no, feature cast. Feature player. I think they call it a player. Yeah. And then gosh, who came after me? Then it was like Andrew Dismukes and not Paramore. Do you know everyone who's on the show? Andrew Dismukes and not Karen.

No, no everyone who's on the show. Yeah, I do. It was not, I'm actually, you're like, I'm just trying to remember it was like me and Bowen. Then I feel like it was punky Andrew, Lauren Hall. Then came the Sarah judge, this guy, Aristotle year. Then they brought in a hundred people, Marcello, Michael, Devin and Molly.

Who does the impressions and she's not there anymore? Melissa. Melissa. Yeah, Melissa was already there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like three years in when I started. Melissa had been there for four or five years. I see her in Marcello. One thing that speaks to your ability is the understudy sketch where you did Melissa and you did

Kate to them. That was kind of interesting. How did they take that? I was so scared. Especially like, you know, I think we are all really close. But you know, when I started the show, like Kate had been on the show for like nine years and was a superstar, but it was one of the loveliest, weirdest. I was about to be like down to earth, very down to earth, but like, Kate, I was like,

I think I'll get a kick out of it, but like, Cecily, I was really intimidated. All those women I was so intimidated by, but then it was sort of this like sweet, Cecily was like so into it, which was shocking. And Kate was great. And I was like, it was a thing too, when I had started, if you had a pre-tape,

I'd written, actually with Dan Bullough, we wrote this murder show, and like just getting those super seniors to be in your video was so hard. So I was like shocked that they even were open to being in a pre-taped. Can you turn it down? Super seniors. I've had, I've had things turned down.

Yeah. What? That was, that was already approved? Of a like a recast? Yeah, I've had that. Yeah. I wouldn't do that anymore. Yeah.

I'm not revealing anybody, but you know, but then you have you, well, I won't say Kate has never met Kate was always in everything. And that meant a lot to me. I've never turned anything. I love the pre tapes. I could be there for hours. Pre tapes are tough. I know.

Do you do, you don't do them. When do you start? That's my last question. When do you start on pre tapes? Cause we used to only do them Dana, right? After read throughs like on a Wednesday or Thursday? Kind of all of them. When do you say Thursday, kind of?

Yeah, yeah. Thursday, probably. Because how do you know what's approved before Ryan Gosling gets it? Do you get him working Monday morning? No. Well, now they're doing these promos. So like I have to shoot a promo tomorrow. Where you walk around with a host or do some of that? Yeah, they're like, can you do a Dua Lipa impression? I'm like, no. So I'll do like, I'll find some bird call version of her tonight. So you literally right now, just for our listeners, so you've been assigned this impression.

Yeah, I cannot sing. And you have to have it down by tomorrow. And you don't have it right now. No, she's British. No, I'm not like a, like Melissa was part of Melissa's genius was she could do these singing in prep like Lady Gaga. I cannot sing for my wife with me. Yeah. You'll have a funny wig. You'll have an accent. You're halfway there.

Yeah, we'll be okay. But otherwise, yeah, Wednesday night, they pick your stuff, hopefully. And it's cool with the pre tapes becauseapes, because usually you'll get an email like 15 minutes before the pics are out, asking to zoom for your video. So it's really sick as hell to be like, oh, thank God. Like we did a Pilates thing. Oh, you know, that's how you find out you got on.

Yeah, yeah. We did like a Pilates video, and it was like, you got the bing, and we were like, bing. Oh, and then when is it, the next morning? No, then they have to build, they build the set Thursday and then we shoot it Friday.

And then for like, when it would be like a me-centric video, that would be done. Sometimes they would take it on Wednesday, but not really. And then be like, we're going to do this next week, but shoot it like on Monday, or we're going to shoot it on Tuesday. And then the writers were so mad. Uh, they inventing Chloe, we shot on Thursday.

So that was the next day. And we weren't thinking, and it was when everyone was doing like rewrites, I think, and we had, we wanted like seafood towers. So we basically like stunk up all of 17. That looked expensive, by the way. It was really expensive, it was really gross. And like all the writers were like locked in the room. They were so mad.

Oh yeah, that was it. That rewrite table with Jim Downey was probably Dana with 15 hours of, oh, just going over every goddamn, and you weren't even in them or you wrote one, you just go, Spade, wake up. What do you got for me on this one? You're like, what if this guy says this? Yeah, that's a tough, that was a tough job that day. All right, Dana, what else do you have for lovely clothes? You have a question for us. If you're off the show this week, That was a tough job that day. All right, Dana, what else do you have for lovely clothes? Do you have a question for us? You're off the show this week, there's no show this week.

No, do it. No, no, we go back. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. So I think we'll do another hour, unless you have something to do, we could go into our second hour. No, no, no.

Just say hello to the cast, they're all brilliant. It's the show's cooking. Yeah, it is. It really, it's like found its, but we've like figured each other out a little bit more. Yeah. I do think that- Say hello to that Brillo pad Sarah Sherman. The audience just keeps discovering. Yeah.

Crazy Sarah. What did she say? The sun has knockers. Oh yeah. She was on our show. She goes, by the way, just FYI audience, Dana and I, I told her later, I go, we both found out later, we didn't understand the joke.

We didn't understand. And we just laughed because it was so bananas, but she said, you know, they're saying the earth is flat, but I think the sun has big knockers. I didn't connect that. And then we did all these jokes about it. And then later, when I saw it on a clip, I go, oh, I get it, I didn't connect that. And then we did all these jokes about it. And then later when I saw it on a clip, I go, oh, I get it.

I didn't even get it. I didn't hear the earth is flat. So that was the thing that I thought it was a non-secwitter. And I was like, well, why do I even say I'm in comedy? I didn't get it. I was so embarrassing. She did a bit and we thought it was funny anyway, cause she was like, you know how the sun has to hurt his big son has big knockers.

Cause she has a funny voice. She has. Yeah, she does. She has. Um, but, um, you can go walk to work now. I could actually today. Or do you have a limo? No, no, no, no, no.

I like the sub. We're near, I'm near West Forth. So it's like seven minutes, five minutes on the train. Get out. All right. Our last, five minutes on the train. Get out. All right. Our last thing, we'll let you go. Do you have a fake pitch for the meeting today? Like Chloe, this will be like Chloe, anything?

You're like, hi Dua. That's how you start. Yeah. Yeah. Hi Dua. So over the break, that's usually how it starts. I'm gonna think. So I'm the worst at it.

Yeah, mine are like weird. Everyone has their thing. There is our Sarah, Marcelo kind of does this like, so I was thinking that. He does like a chalamet, like sexy baby thing. I take a whole, I'll have it one way and then the pitch is so bad. But then sometimes they do become sketches. Yeah, they bite on it.

The host doesn't know, they bite on a fake pitch and you go, uh-oh. Sydney Sweeney, I pitched her the Hooters idea where I was like, maybe work at Hooters. Ooh. And we're counting tips, I get $20 and you're like, cool, I made like $40,000. And then she DM'd me to write it. And then we got in so much trouble for like sexualizing.

It was so fucking funny. But it was, you perv it over here. I know you perv. That was a good one though. It was very funny when you're counting your money. Stupid. Yeah. So stupid.

Some of that just silliness, I think this is sort of, That was a good one though. It was very funny when you're counting your money. It's stupid. Yeah. So stupid. Some of that just silliness, I think this is sort of, I don't know, just the way the world is all this madness and everything. And just abstraction, that's why Beavis the Butthead maybe it would hit so hard and that Hooters sketch just, I think we're in the mood for like just madness. I know. I think we're in the mood for like just minutes. I know. I think so. I think the political client, like we also like, you can kind of touch it, but not really.

It's like, it's opened the door for weird, which I think is so nice. Weird is like a real, a really, yeah, yeah. Cause I'm not the smartest with the political stuff. So. I don't, I do these little shorts for this just because if I do Biden, I feel like I'm doing something really nasty and wrong. So I kind of do it.

Yeah. People get so mad when there's so many Trump jokes, but I have done some silly little things and people, I don't know, people seem to like that now. I don't know what you call it abstract or weird. I don't know what you call it, abstract or weird. I like that. I like that a lot. That movies are like, I was thinking that the Sasquatch sunset, I don't know. It's movies are weird.

Everything's weird. We're in the era, age of weird. You know, it's funny cause there's a lot of superhero movies because I figured out that the bad guy can't be a certain race or religion so you make him just a monster and then no one gets mad. Well you know what I mean? Are you gonna be a transformer and then go okay. The influence on entertainment is because of the trauma of Hiroshima and Japan, there was all this radioactive Godzilla movies and worse than, so it is an influence on whatever the zeitgeist or the emotional freak, the emotional temperature

of the culture. Yeah, totally. So two people having fun, being really silly and you know, it's just great. So yeah, I'll be watching Saturday. Don't be nervous. Yeah, we'll watch. silly and you know, it's just great. So I'll be watching Saturday. Don't be nervous. Yeah, we'll watch. Well, yeah. Have fun, Chloe. Thanks, guys.

Chloe, thank you for doing a Zoom from the Kitsch, your new sketch. Hey, you're welcome. And I'm sorry about being so inept at this beautiful microphone. But at least I have. You nailed it. I'm gonna bring this to a pitch.

I'm gonna just pitch with a loose mic. That would be so funny. Just stand up and do it. I actually think I might do that. this to a pitch. I'm going to just pitch with a loose smile. That would be so funny. Just stand up and do it. I actually think I might do that. It's pretty funny. Loose smile. Let me see. You go, hey, hey, Dua.

Dua, can you hear me? She's like, yeah, I'm two feet away. Okay. So Chloe, so nice to meet you. Sometimes this doesn't work in here. So nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. Okay, Chloe.

Thank you. And I wish you all the best and keep having fun and say hello to anyone who would ever care if I said hello. Anybody that listens. I will. All right. Bye-bye.

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