Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Dan Aykroyd

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

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I got Dana and I were really pumped about Danny Acquire. He's one of the biggies that we just have talked about since the beginning. And even before I ever wanted to be on SNL, which was, I didn't really want to be on SNL, almost until I got on SNL because I didn't think it was even a possibility. I dream low. My mom always told me, dream within reason. Dream about getting a new spare tire for your Volvo.

So I would never thinking, I was like a character guy for SNL, and the king of the character guys is Acquired. I mean, Phil Hartman is up there, but I have to say, it's very hard to compete with that first crew, Hall of Fame crew of SNL guys in Acquired. Love and with Belushi, and there was too many things to go over them from the Blues Brothers to coneheads we talked about. All that stuff of course. We didn't

even get to Julia Child, Bass O'Matic and Heather's favorite Jane New Agnard Slut. I wanted to say that on my phone machine. Who is a phone machine? Anyway, that's not the point. The point is he was lovely. He came into my pad. I showed him Farley's jacket from Tommy Boy that is on the wall. We did Tommy Boy together. We did Conex together.

He was a stud, I interviewed him once for Spin Magazine. When I was on SNL, he was was very generous and let me do that. And he is a character and he was doing some impressions and goofing around. There isn't enough time to talk to Tannock right, there's just too much and what a stud and he's got his vodka and we talked about that and it's all and we had a few knocks. I did definitely with them Put a die-cocon it to ruin it and And it was just a blast so without further ado. Let's get here's Danny Acroyd and we had such a fun time with this dude I saw Chris two days ago and he said, stay in the chateau.

Yeah, of Chris, he must love you. He came over and gave me a hug. Oh, yeah. So I said I was seeing you guys and he was, yeah. He should have been more excited about you seeing us, but it's okay. It's great when you meet someone who hasn't become a superstar yet. Chris? Yeah, and if you treat them normal, they never forget it. If you're just reasonably respectful.

It's pretty much of a superstar though. Oh, yeah. And just boy, from what I can gather, hasn't changed a bit. So it's like a congressional inquiry. We're sitting on a table like a same Oppenheimer. The podcast is actually called the hot seat It's a surprise if you are we welcome Dan acroix to the hot. Yeah, Heather helped with that is you know I'll do the side thing and

We bring about so crystal head vodka is that the one? Do you have do you have plain? Yep, do you have any do you have any fresh squeezed orange juice in the in the house? Yeah, do you have any give any fresh squeezed orange juice in the in the house? Oh, so You don't do you ever win an award juice at all any cranberry or any you know we might have is It's not just my have lemon seven up seltzer. Is that nothing? Not really like a Biscuits or cranberry or a Biscuits. Yeah, that's all right I really like a Hibiscus or cranberry or a Hibiscus.

Yeah, that's all right. Put some ice in there. Yeah, I will. I'm just a. No, no, no, no, don't worry try some. I'm going to have, yeah. Or if you guys know. And please let me know. So I don't let me know when we're rolling so that I'll do all

it politically and correct stuff now. We're always going to use it, but we're always have editing capability. You know, we'll send you the raw tape. So the conversation begins then. Okay. Well, what you're doing there is you're you're pouring the equitivity. The mash. Okay, go ahead. Let's start. Have you won awards for this vodka? Do you do a firm, do you do a formal introduction? Or do we just? No, we do have Dan Acquite,

who I start everyone as Joe Biden. Get your facts straight. Jack. That's it. Yeah. And then there was the other president you did so well and so beautiful. I didn't do it. Yeah. And then there was the other president you did so well and so beautiful. I did it. Yeah. You know, that was the way that eventually, yeah, and that came, it was a slur. You know, it's a wall. There's a Washington. No, it became not going to do it, became not going to do it.

And in Washington now, there's a slur that is commonly used, commonly for a word that is frequently employed in the trade. SIR, SIR, SIR, and Senator becomes SIR, SIR, SIR. It's SOOL. Remember SOOL? Yeah. Katan, how genius was that guy? SOOL, do you remember SOOL?

No, Chris Katan. Chris Katan, he did SOOL because, yeah, Ild? No, Chris Katan. Chris Katan. Chris Katan. He did Suld, because yeah, I mean, I'm talking now I'm gonna tell you a shale. I can't do it. All right. You know, Suld is the slur.

He's the slur, yeah. He's the people slur all the time. Yeah. Yeah, I can tell you a little bit. Well, a little bit. Now I think he a little bit, yeah. Can I do a six degrees of separate? Well, I don't want you to test the term.

I'm in college. you're doing Jimmy Carter on Saturday Night Live. I'm recording it with a cassette and trying to steal, you know, playing the little, steal your Jimmy Carter and was in awe of it. And then, Do you swear?

What are we going to do? In clubs, I was just trying to do what you guys did. You guys were like, to me, like a badass rebel pirates. Yeah. I think of Bill Murray and you. We got so accurate on analysis of it. It really is. Well, I think, well, we were little.

We're like little, we're tiny people, but you guys were kind of strapping all over six feet. You would punch a guy or make him laugh. Yeah. But, and so you do, you'd copy you, that Jimmy, well Jimmy Carter, you know, he had that, he had that, the eye contact, and a very soft way of approaching things, and he ended up being, you know, one of the great post presidents and really a giant figure.

You know what's interesting about him, because I became fascinated by him, because he's constantly referred to. So I read this book about him. Could not understand the idea of deficit spending. He was like, I don't understand how we take him. This wants money. And we're gonna give out that much money. I'm not gonna say that's the money.

But my Jimmy Carter I do now, I still do all the presidencies that he had a nervous breakdown, put peanut butter on his head with one round the White House, sir you okay? You got peanut butter in your head. No, I don't. I'm a peanut butter man. I got peanut butter half peanut butter soup Peanut butter time peanut butter shoes. I'm a peanut butter peanut butter. I'm doing you But here's the thing that got me crazy Is when you you were visiting us at hell and then you praise my George poor senior impression

So it was like 10 years later. So that just, no, you know, these things are, Carter was unbelievable. You know, he, he was a nuclear physicist and an engineer in the Navy. And he helped set up Canada's reactor program. There was a, there was a captain of a nuclear submarine. He, he troubleshoot had, went up to Ottawa, my hometown there and troubleshoot at a reactor problem they had at one point and what year before

before uh... there's all yeah no one was you know i think it's some president let me take a look at it you know six i'll get back to economy i'm going to do this reactor for our ones yeah but well it's a deficit spending you know we see you know i look we live in a country

that is it a fiat currency. Well, Canada as well. Say, you know, fiat currency, all you do is you just print more money if you need it. And so, you know, spending, you gotta spend the money, people need it, you gotta spend it. And we're doing it. And we're doing it.

Yeah, we've got a, we've almost got a third on the shelf. Don't you? A third debt debt load right now, right? But because we can print more. Why not spread it? Never anything. Spread modern monetary theory. Now we're getting close to a trillion in interest on. Or me.

Or this really that's. Yeah. So that vodka a little bit of that. That's some for myself. Would you mind? Our known sweet. Thank you. Sweet vanilla, dry and crisp made in Canada.

No, I can ask you a question about this because we don't have to talk about the vodka. We can talk about the hot brown. This is going to integrate into you as a performer. You were one of the first celebrities that made a I did like for like first time he tasted his own vodka. There's a there's a Now David has this other vodka. I won't mention the name sometimes. I'm always looking for a vodka So yeah, I knew about this. Okay, we have now a average spade is going to take a little shit.

Am I smelling the notes first? I didn't gel up, Johnny. I was going to have, last night he had two slippery monkeys at the hook and hook. What a great car, you always thought. Oh, I love Johnny. When he died, when the joke would die, that was the funniest, the way his reactions worked. Yeah, the deep construct.

That's good. Danny Dry Chris. You did it right. To finish. It's it's clean. It's the sweetness from our corn there. Yeah. And I'm a vodka guy. Yeah. David, most of the other vodka's I don't name names, but they put a lemonine sugar and they put citrus oil, they put glycol. Funcher. You don't need that. No, don't need that. You know, if you're a bartender, you're

making things where you add all kinds of additives in there. Saint Germain, Frank, you know, all kind of, for net, Frank, all that stuff. That's dictionary. Yeah. Yeah. So, so you don't need, if you're a bar chef, you don't need well I don't know the story. How did this originate? I'm sorry. I just want to know how you just wanted a cleaner vodka really And what year was this? We've been in the decade and a half and that's okay now there been many vodka's coming gone Come and gone, right? Many come and go and all the celebrities are doing tequila now. Well many there You know what there's 200 sick celebrity spirits brands. 200 I didn't know there was two celebrities. I got to go on this.

Yeah. And but weren't you an early adopter? It seems like. Oh, Sammy Hager did his tequila. And then I just I just I just began to research vodka and saw. That you know, that they were kind of polluting it a bit. And so Johnny Alexander and I came up with the idea for the skull member him, you know, Johnny, Johnny Alexander, the artist. Yeah. Well, the skull is revolution. We met.

We met when he, when his girlfriend, or my girlfriend dumped me for him. Rosie Schuster. Oh, Rosie Schuster, who developed church lately with me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're, we're, we're her, oh no, a lot of spectacular human being. Yeah. And it's beautiful, beautiful woman from, from, from, I didn't know she was Lauren's ex-wife

for like a year. Lauren's ex-wife, yeah. Well, I knew, after that, I knew and it didn't stop me, but oh boy. Uh, he was very magnanimous, but anyway, uh, Johnny, uh, I got a fact because, uh, not that I took her away from him, that was kind of over with Lauren and, and Rosie atanimous, but anyway, Johnny, I got it back because not that I took her away from him. That was kind of over with Lauren and Rosie at the time, but I was with Rosie and she fell

in love with Johnny and dumped, don't need to. Gave you the highs. Now we're friends. Now we're friends, Johnny and I. And as Rosie said to all three of us one night at Davis's memorial, she looked at Lauren, she looked at me and she looked at Johnny. We were all sitting there like, crows on a wire. At Davis's, she looked at Lauren she looked at me and she looked at Johnny we were all sitting there like crores on a wire at Davis's as you said well at least you have each other. Oh we love Rosie. So today we have the vodka company Johnny and

we're having a ball. It's really fun. You know if you can drink moderately and respectfully it's a good thing. Now Danny, are you saying some of these, like, there's a lot of celebrities, I drink, I'm, Erkels Ticula, which is probably the best one. Erkels? I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I don't know what you're gonna do. It probably does.

It's probably in the works. I've got Felix the cat. No, you know. What would that be? It's a logger. Yeah. Felix the cat. You remember Felix the cat?

Yes, of course. Does he remember? Do you remember? I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, yeah, feeling secure you remember Felix the cat. Yes. Oh, of course the back You remember L. L. Wood blues is partly I'm farly Felix the cat. I'm based on Felix the cat the briefcase and that's everything in it. Oh my goodness Felix that's got to be brought back that that is a beautiful beautiful that was one of my first Oh, man memories. Oh, yeah, yeah, no 58 15 oh, Felix is Felix the cat. He's one of the blues brothers. Yeah, yeah, she really she's 58, 59. Oh, Felix is, Felix is, Felix is the cat. He's one of the blues brothers, Felix. Yeah, I mean, she, she's black and white.

Yeah. I know. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, when you do, when you do this, you're saying the Asvot, because they have,

some of those things you're saying that are in it, I didn't know all the words, but they might make for hangover. The glycol certainly would. Okay. Yeah. So when you have too many things in it, it's not great. Yeah. Now, now of course, now you get to eight shots of this, even without the pollutants in there, you're gonna, it is efful alcohol.

So you know, you got to be kind of calm. One of our new sponsors, I guess, is trying to mitigate that problem. Oh, we have one of ours that says it. I had you take this, but you know what? Oh, it doesn't, it doesn't have hangovers. It mitigates them. It's not by saying it helps you with a hangover.

It's not a hot well, you know, let's try it. Yeah, try it. Yeah. I mean, no. Now, by the way, House of Blues, Dan, you don't know this. You were part of the House of Blues. And it was across the street. It's so sad it's going. They dug up the coolest place in the world and now it's some dumpy hotel that nobody cares about.

Live nation, bought House of Blues in 2007. How much? Do they pay for it? They paid several hundred million. Okay. Basically to save the company. Because it had had many challenges and they came in and saved the company.

Because you know, the .com bomb 2008 all kinds of things 9-11 all kinds of things fought against house of blue survival and live nation came in and saved the company in 2500 jobs and then across the street here the the leaseholder basically wanted the building back and so they just paid live nation basically one of the building back. And so they just paid live nation, you know, some to say we want to build our own thing here. And live nation looked at it economically and said, you know, we'd have to run a restaurant here

for the next 50 years to make the money that was offered. So I understood the decision, but it's too bad. They took out our beautiful barge steel, the firm steel, and that was my office. I mean, I hung I I saw the gogo. I saw so many great guys. Yeah. There's a, there's a cool one in Anaheim.

They just sell out there. Yes, oh, yeah, there's 11 of them. And, and they are, they're rocking. The one in Chicago is just great. Yeah, it's a great brand. So, so another business thing you got into, I mean, it seems to me just listening to you. It's a super creative expression to yourself.

Because the first time I met you and you sat us all, you were visiting SNL, it was me and Phil and John my first season, we were at a restaurant. First thing you said was, don't be in a hurry to leave the show. And the second one was just about business and pay attention. Well, it's show business, right?

Yeah, but I remember that to this day. It's always great to have great advisors. And, you know, any work that I've done that I'm proud of, it's because I've been with wonderful collaborators, any success I've had. It's consulting people who are smarter than me in many areas and just the fun of working with just great people all the way through. You through, Murphy and Murray and all of them.

Jesus Christ. Yeah, and then, and love it. Of course, we just think of him as he, as far as I'm concerned, he's the price of it, he's worth the price of admission to SNL generally. He's love it. Just love it was there, you know. Why you say that?

I'm aware he got that here. I did this thing. It's going to be out in the next year. The world in six glasses. It's a documentary talking about all the fluids that have influenced man. I mean, over time. And I had him on there. He came on.

And I was almost fun. Yeah. I'll do it. He's so fucking hungry. Oh, yeah. He's so fucking funny. Oh, no, he's just he's just there. Love it. He's always a lot.

You put him in the wedding singer he's funny. Yeah. I've had him in the movies. He's great. No, he is. He is. Yeah. That's his big one.

By the way, yeah, like your glasses, jealous. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned trading places. And I, I mean, there's too many things to ask Dan. I've read about it. I know, there's not much to ask other naffon over things, but trading places was one of the, those movies that just hit us hard

and it was an R-rated movie and it was so fucking funny. And then you just, so I don't wanna say, did you know it going in, but you know, you get to work with Eddie and did you know him well at all? Or was it just, was it a gamble to put Eddie in? Nobody, well I think you know he did the Walter Hill movie. The Walter Hill movie and Paramount said yeah he'd be good. And somehow that pairing came together. I didn't know him before we started. Of course he was spectacular to see that talent grow and what he did in that film. And when I read the script, it was so intelligently written. And I thought, yeah, that should be a great thing to play and have fun on

because it was certainly different from anything I'd done before. And then Landis directing it because we've made a couple of things together. So it was, you know, all the cylinders were clicking. It was kind of like a 30s group all comedy in that sense. It wasn't, you know, it was so fun and easy to watch. It was written by a pair of writers, Wine Grot and Harris, and they wrote it. And corresponded, I heard by Fax machine to write it.

And I believe they did one other film, but that was certainly their most famous and well-known one and so well done and well directed with great actors in it. Yeah, that's a triple A. I'm proud of that. When Jamie Lee was a freshman. Jamie Lee was so, we were in love with her. Everything was working and you eating the salmon out of your beard. I mean, I don't know if it's an ad-libber what,

but those are the texture things in movies where you stick with you forever. I think that was, I have a beard on. I see the salmon on the floor. I'm going for it. Yeah. Yeah, there's the, you know, you come into the set, you know, you're looking around stuff you can use.

Yeah. All the time, you know, we're desperate to, well, how do I fill it with business? What a, so I have this of the beard, and I'm like, there's a little salmon, oh yeah. Well, yeah, I don't know if it was scripted or not, but I kind of remember it being spontaneous. I'm gonna pick it up.

Beer hair, it's gonna go forward. But that's great, because you look at scenes and I almost forget that, you know, we did Tommy Boy, and the same thing, you look at a day's shoot and you go, is there anything funny here? There's a clip on with Farley, we're like, let know, we did Tommy Boy, and the same thing, you look at a day's shoot, and you go, is there anything funny here? There's a clip on with Farley, we're like, let's, in the night before, we're like, hey, can he bring it?

Can you guys, we give us a clip on, just for one laugh, so we can, it's all about break pads. It was hard to make it that, everything funny, that reminds me of that. You get there, you see a Sam, and you see a beard, you go, I'll make you the beard, and, and Landis was generous with that. Oh, no. About just grabbing things. Oh, no, he so he was smart

Oh, he he lets the performer go, you know, you know, and you mentioned Farley of course dearly beloved dearly beloved Yeah, of course you missed drag right. Oh Could he be more in love with then it's He'd be more in love with Denny. It's unhide-a-wow. He was in the cone hats. He just in the cone hats. He played the beautiful part. Oh, he was good at cone hats.

He was great. Oh, yeah. You know what he'd do? He would do stuff on the set and he'd move his head and we're like, that's accurate. That's Bill Murray. That's pollution. But the sweetest, sweetest guy.

Just a sweet, sweet man. Yeah. Just Zelensky. The name came back this year. Oh, big, big. Yeah. He was the first. Great stuff with his pants. Yeah. Pulling his pants. I'm so respectful and polite and in church going, you know, church go. And yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We had a blast on time. I remember one night when you were in, I think you were showing us, is it where Rob Logan's hitting the balls?

I don't want to give the whole movie away. But when we, we shot like 24 hours and we had some factory in Toronto. We got to go up there and we were getting tired. Magnum, Magnum auto parts. And you had the a there was the The air freshener show it's so many things and then just to have you from the guy We love to be in the movie and then the movie worked out. Yeah, I did. Oh, so that's a good picture That's a really good picture. Do you're seeing? Oh God that happened to Franken and Davis, you know Oh, dear

Car they went through the windshield. Yeah. I think that happens a lot. Yeah. But I don't know how many times a deer comes back alive, but that was the other. I think I think I think in their case, it might have. Oh, wow. Yeah.

I think, Frank is like, it's, wow, we got a deer in the back. No. Well, you've got to be here. We've got a show. Just we'll take care of the deer later. Oh, I got to tell him, we had Michael McKinnell. I remember Michael McKinnell. Of course.

Yeah, of course. Well, do you know his resume? It's like he's like, he's exhausting. Everything. And they're making his spinal top again, I hope. Oh, I don't know. I wouldn't ask that. There's rumors of that.

I hope. We don't ask the good questions. Yeah. We just fawn, but we were talking about Conan's. He was my partner in Conan's and I was telling Dana that we were the immigration guys. Yeah. Not kind of the bad guys or whatever, you know, and it was peppered with, we didn't mention it, but I think Sandler was in the movie, Farley had a big part.

It's his first movie appearance, Sandler. Oh, was it going on? Billy Madison. He played, yeah, he sold, he sold the, he sold the, he sold mine or something. He sold me the ID. Yeah. Oh, that's right mad? You played, yeah, I sold the, he sold the, you sold me the ID. Yeah, that's right. Fake ID, right? Yeah.

Yeah, and we had Ellen DeGeneres, Drew Carey, Sinbad, and every wheelie, you were peppered that place. Yeah. If you watch it, you go, well, I, oh, look who that is. It was a very good serviceable family comedy in it. It's certainly in jurors today, no doubt about it. Serviceable, I think that wasn't in the pitch. They, well, you know, they, you know, they, you know, they, they, they, they,

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they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they And Lauren and I were thinking, Halloween, Halloween, but now we need it now, we need it now. So what an, what an embedder at Halloween, but it's did it as a, all these things have a life now. Listen, they, they, they, they, they people wind up seeing them and, yeah. And when you're smoking weed in Washington, and I live in 1978, they come on,

and they're, they're called the coneheads, and their heads are like, coneheads. That's the one I'm saying, we got to wrote the thing. Yeah. They're the coneheads heads and their heads, or like cone heads. That's the one I was supposed to be very, I wrote the thing. Yeah. They're the cone heads and their heads look like. Yeah, no, that's good. Yeah.

I didn't tell the original�. I didn't tell the original� members. I was telling them the yesterday that, right, you were probably gnarfling the garthawk at this point, but we were gnarfled like arthawk. We were a Michael and I were in T-shirt and boxers to do a scene and I was in the, in my trailer and I said the AD,

cause I was so naive and so adorable and churubic. And I said, hey, don't tell anyone and I can still work say, I do have chicken pox. And he goes, you have chicken pox. Oh, yeah. But it's, oh, it's here where my shirt is and it's on my legs and you can't see and I'm gonna seem with you and

Could have invested the whole every oh yeah, and he goes okay hang on and they go shutting down the set. I'm like what's going on? I didn't even connect it to me and so they sent everyone home and I don't even know if you're working that day, but I was like oh My god, and so and then someone goes up that's gonna cause a studio year in trouble. Everything was terrifying, media fired, but wound up being a blast, but that's, remembering you have a chicken pox, way late. Yeah, I know, you didn't get it as a kid. No, and I was such a weak little pus of a kid.

I got a measles knock now for three weeks, which is abnormal. When you were 37? No, when I was at, I I got one of the normal kids. Okay. But I was very frail. You can't tell this athlete that sits in front of you to know. No, that's right. Marathon runner.

Marathon runner. Marathon runner, Dana's marathon runner. That was such a fun picture, Cohn hats, and then what we got a great cast. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's I'm proud of that one. I like that one. I love you.

I mean, this is just fan fan type questions like when you look at You will be you take a dragnet you take you take I will be spared you will be spared. I will place both of you on the protected roles Say no more other good bye Remember I was behind Dave Thomas at the end. They brought me for next Yeah, yeah, either will be and I Yeah, that was so good. I was just mocking everything. Yeah said whatever Turn and went with the cone as at the end. So this you can order this on Amazon for like

Revox, right? For just people listen like shrink when you see us. We're there two Conan movies just just one just one They're hey listen. I would do that character in a second. In fact, I have a story idea, but you know, I'm too busy now. No one's going to listen to a story. How do you sleep at night? I cone heads. No one's going to want another cone heads out there. Paramount plus. No. I know. Bullew is waiting. I know the guy who runs Crystal vodka, the movie. I'm in a text. Yeah, no, no, I was I was on the Hulu there. I was I did a little show called Zombie Town in our us Stein, you know, the group of softer. Yeah. So it's on Hulu now. It's called zombie town. And it's like it's like okay. Now children of America, you're going to have to learn about zombies. This

is an introductory movie about zombies for you, gentle and soft. Oh yeah. Right. Right. A little scary. Yeah. So that you can step up to, you know, totally. The world of Z, what's that? Z, the world of Z. The world of Z. I remember Lauren asked me when his kids were little goes, I don't really understand Scooby-Doo.

And I said, I don't really get why they love it. And to your point, it was the first time when they're a certain age, it's a little scary. The mask comes off. There's a haunted person. So that's that was the first time when they're a certain age it's a little scary the mass comes off there's a haunted person so that's that was the rocket tool for that you step them up to the exercise that's right that that's the I thought it's 17 still haven't unseen but I don't know what he is even too early yeah well we went in we've never seen we don't see it it's it's I guess it's brilliant. It's brilliant

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oh well, I'm not a skeptic, but I do have a question for you. Where are they coming from, all different species is probably dozens of them. They come from the ocean? There may be bases there and go ahead. I love it. No, I just don't. Look, I'm totally, because whenever I'm thinking

about supernatural stuff and what I was going, we're here. So the greatest supernatural thing is that we exist right now talking here, how do we get here? What are we doing here? What's, you know, so I'm open-minded all of it. What I was curious about the United States Air Force, that the sidings of the UFOs seem to be stuck in kind of a black and white,

herky jerky 1950s motif. Can't they get more sophisticated cameras on these suckers so we can really. Well, there's more footage coming out and it is all governed now by the new office at the Pentagon that handles this and is called the All Domain because they go in water. They fly through water a thousand miles out.

So space sky water, All Domain anomalous. You don't know what it is. Resolution because they have to resolve. They've got military craft and equipment being exposed. So it's the all domain anomalous resolution office to figure out what they are. And so that's we actually have a Pentagon department now that's working on that or a branch that's working. And you know, all those sightings will be brought in by the military and brought in by civilians and analyzed there. So it's real. There they are. Again, your question, who, where, where are they coming from? Why? I think a lot of them are just tourists. I think it's not as scary a little bit because they and I'm scared of them even though I do does it mention well, I think they they would have done whatever they're gonna done. They're

already here. They've been here a million times. They would they can take us out if they were. That's why I feel a little easier there. I don't I don't think there are threat however. I will shoot. If you talk to some of the aviators down near and Malik Marina Del Rey with fire department, the police department, the sheriff's department helicopters and such, they see them all the time. And they seem to be bugging them and flying them, flying around and like challenging them. I'm sorry. Do you feel a little way down your head of your time in a sense? Because now it's going more mainstream.

Yes, you were with the Pentagon. And it's more acknowledged. And you've been talking about it for We've seen two here on a data fight Yeah, so and my mother saw one you see that was why I got interested in my mother saw one in 1947 and she worked in the aircraft production Ministry in World War two at that with In Ottawa during the war in aircraft production for the fuselages on the hurricane. So she knew aircraft.

And she said, in 1947, she saw one on the Sparks Street there, you know, they're going out of it now. Yeah, back then, they worked, yeah. Yeah, they kind of buzzed. They're going out everywhere. Yeah, I don't think they want a formal relationship with us, but they will take advantage of us using their Flurry. Well, do you have any sense of being connected to 2001 space, honestly? Just the idea that

we were seated here running alien rice still seems to have fascinating. Yeah, you know, one of the favorite movies of a lot of people at NASA is the movie that that was that was made mission to Mars with with with had the face the face on Mars in it. And the theory was. With that, Gary Sinese? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, and. Mission to Mars, it wasn't the one with Matt Damon.

Matt Damon, that was the Mars. No, no, no, Gary Sinese. It's this postulated that we were seated here. And there was some help. Right. There was some help. Yeah. And so a lot of NASA personnel

see that as a kind of a viable concept from what I've, you know, when I understand. Well, of course, and everything's on the table. And like someone has always figured out, have you seen any aliens? Because they have pictures of them. They have. I don't, I never know, never seen. But you know, they're out, you know know that people have seen picture. Yeah, sure, sure. No, I'll call you. Can you tell these out? And you know my poltergeist or whatever you call them, experiences that are.

Yeah. Yeah, you really went through that. Yeah, and it was annoying to you that, because you're expansive. It wasn't something you enjoyed, right? It was, no. What? Well, the one that was the,

well, there's, there's many of them, but in this house we have up in Northern California that was built in 1912. There's three bedrooms upstairs. My son was in one bedroom. He was the older brother. And over time, he had a lot of waking dream states or nightmares. And he moved into his brother's room just organically, the younger brother. And so one night, and I didn't know what white noise was at this point, believe it or not, it had 90s or whatever. So he had a boom box in the bedroom, he'd left.

So I wake up to this, oh yeah, it's gonna, like a FM radio between channels, right? I'm going, why is everyone sleeping? So I walk around and by the time I get in the room, I don't hear it. But it was not a waking dream state. It wasn't like a nightmare.

It was just like, what the heck? And so that room, I also had some, when I slept in there once, because companies over, I had an experience there. But I've become less afraid of it, because if it starts to happen, I just sort of go with it now. Yeah, well, it happens to millions of people.

Hans Holzer, H-O-L-Z-E-R, he was the great Ghostbuster, and he has a great number of books upon dealing with all of the things that he dealt with in his career. Is that how Ghostbusters started? Is you just got into all that? Well, my family was into it. My great grandfather was a spiritualist researcher

and all around the house, the cottage there that we had in the summers, which was the summer house where he lived, was full of journals and books and his writings. And so I was sitting there flipping through a journal from the American Society for Psychological Research. And it was an article on quantum physics and parapsychology. And I just went, okay, parapsychology, quantum physics, the real terms, the real vernacular,

the real research that's being done, marry that to an old-style comedy like Abbott and Gestello, Bowry Boys, Bob Hope and Dean Cross. Dean Cross, who did ghost movies. In fact, a whole that ghost I think is a movie with Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin. And it's the first use of the term ghostbusters. Somebody asks, Dean Martin, who are you guys? Where ghostbusters, he says, they say, where is it? And by the way, just as an aside, ghostbusters.

Yeah, he says, yeah. So that was the first use of the term. And it was a great tradition of ghost movies in Hollywood. I thought, let's marry the real vernacular or the real science, the real fact that people are seriously, you know, seriously into this research with an old style comedy. Now, as an aside, that movie hold that ghost with Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin. Jerry Lewis does a walk down the stairs in the old castle set that it defies physics. The way he comes down those stairs and doesn't kill himself is amazing.

He was a spectacular person. Was he trying to be? He was just coming down the stairs. Like clumsily coming down the stairs. Not possessed. No, no, just clumsily walking down the stairs. And he, I don't know how he didn't kill him. He was a masterful physical comedian.

Did you? Absolutely masterful. Do you know who you got? You got, you hung with him as you must have known. Jerry Lewis. Yeah. Not really. I met the woman who played the Anjaneu,

an earner fella. Oh yeah, an ascender fella. And then I went and looked at a scene on YouTube of Jerry Lewis. There's a centerpiece where he's dancing around with the stairs to your point. The physical comedy is breathtaking. And it went on and on. He was directing it.

No, you must have met him. I did. Well, actually, I met, I talked him on the phone. Shaffer hooked him up on the phone with me one day. And Jerry and I, and Jerry and I, I said, Jerry, can you, can you give me a gongon, gongon, gongon, and he on the phone, can you give me a gna gna gna gna gna gna gna and he on the phone, I'll never forget over the phone, I hear gna gna gna gna gna gna gna gna gna gna gna gna It all comes from the Jewish Yiddish theater of the Lower East Side, the Catskills, that all of that humor, the gna gna gna gna gna gna gna. Have you ever, have you ever, the fork drops wonderful? You're sitting at dinner.

Somebody says something and bank the fork. That's all a comedy from the Yiddish, Lower East Side. You know that there's a wonderful expression for your show in Yiddish, the fly in the wall. And it goes, it's the flick, Oif Darvant. That's how you say fly in the wall and you just flick a flick of the event. Let's get this so we have this. That's our promos. Yeah. It sounds like it's poetic. So that the gong he gave me a gong and and and all of that comes from that rich rich tradition. Did you have other like heroes like did Carrie Gran ever reach out to you or other supers in the 70s when you guys were exploding because Jim Leary and Davis were. Timothy Larry.

Oh, I see. I bought him. I bought him. Yeah, on our friends, I bought the last steak dinner that he ate before he died at the Marmon over there at the restaurant. You put in it really. It was all that he'd taken care of. And now everybody's doing it for, uh, and, uh, and, uh, Timothy Liri.

I'm at Jimmy Hoffa. Cause I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, Heather. I. Lauren McCall. I work with her. I work with Jim Garner. And Jack Lemon. I work with the Jack Lemon. I'm going to join a movie called American President. And Lauren McCall was in that. And it was wonderful.

Was that Pete Siegel? Yeah. Pete Siegel. Yeah. And I work with with with the all great veterans like that. Yeah. That's what I was curious about. I was so new intersected.

Oh, so, so neat. So neat. And when you left us and L was there, so Chevy, can't we had Chevy on here? He was perfectly bananas the way we wanted. I saw amazing. Yeah, he was, he was, he was my only in the film and it was so funny. Yeah, yeah, he was doing stick and stuff. No, his sticks and stones his work with his fingers. If you never saw any other part of them to work with his hands, I remember he did

something just like, you know, he's like, he's he's there. He's got the fingers walking and then all of a sudden. And it starts to go on you. You just hold hilarious to control. Yeah. Well, we had this here, which is like 10 bottles on a tray. And he just waited. And at a given point, he just pulled down. He reached for it. And it was just like boring fun. Yeah. Perfectly. But he waited. He knew, you could tell. He knew. That was his go to. No, I love Chevy. No, we do. And you stayed straight through. Like he was the first year of SNL and then you stayed how long you say five years? Four. Four years. And the reason we left was purely and sorely because and we had to finish the blues brothers. Oh, we finally, maybe it was the possibility we'd go back,

you know, we went to Chicago then the movie went sort of early summer late summer. Oh, it's so going. Autumn and. But you were shooting. And we were shooting and we had to go back to LA to shoot some of the stuff inside the church scene. Soul food restaurant all that would be done in LA and we knew we couldn't go back. So I made the call to Lauren saying we weren't going to return. No, how hard was that? It was a little it was made a little easier because when Animal House was being done, they wanted me to play D-Day and they wanted me to join Landis and, and right men and, oh yeah, you'd be great.

And, you know, John in Oregon to do that movie. And I just looked and I just, John's gone, man, I just looked and I thought, you know, how can I can't leave Lauren here without another, without a writer or an actor, you know? So I told him, I said, I just looked and I thought, you know, I can't leave Lauren here without another, without a writer or an actor, you know, so I told him, I said, I'm going to stay, and I stayed on then. So when we left for Blues Brothers, it was a little easier because I did stay on and I didn't leave for Animal House. Yeah. Yeah. And there's like somebody with some analyst somewhere, some pundit or something said, Oh, Lauren forced me to stay, or was it,

you know, you forced the contract, Lauren is not a dictator slave. Wherever you wanna go, you go. He's not like that. He encouraged us in the afternoon. He wouldn't wanna look thirsty like that. He would say, we'd love to have you, you know, but if you need to go, you know, that would be his thing.

Yeah, no, gracious Canadian. Yeah, yeah. And then you fell in love with his cast members. He did, he did. To this day, he cast members. He did. To this day, he loves his companions. He did my boys and my girls. He calls them, yeah.

No, no, he loves them. He loves them. Hi, Bobby Finger. And I'm Lindsay Weber. And I want to tell you about a podcast I think you're going to love. Who weekly is a podcast about everything you need to know? About the celebrities you don't. The celebrity news stress you out?

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an idea. Danny did that season two and he said Chevy Oh, but you guys are the original. So there is a little Chevy Danny. Never the last name. Never said, yeah, right. Never said Paul Simon. Never said Paul McCartney. And look how the show is going now.

So current. So real. And so extraordinary. And so extraordinary. When you did Blues Brothers, which is one of my all time great ones. And I know you opened for Steve Martin at the University.

I heard that said that. So why there is a Blues Brothers? because John recorded the record from there. God damn. Yeah. How do you get Carrie Fisher? Were she Star Wars or was she? How does it get around my girlfriend? Yeah.

Oh, let's get into the event. Because she didn't do a lot. I love line. No, well, well, because. Wasn't the Barbie part for her. She was good friends with John and good just good friends with Penny Marshall and John and She was Penny's buddy and and we just asked her to be a part of it and she was a part of it and then we fell in love and We almost got married. We had blood tests and rings exchanged and everything and

I was ready to spend the rest of my life with with Carrie and After we wrapped the movie, we got into a Lier 24 with John and Judy, and we flew to Martha's Vineyard, and we flew to this house that Judy had bought me in the vineyard to be near John to plan future projects, right? And I said, Judy, just buy me a house.

I don't care what it looks like. It was our first check from Atlantic Records and she bought me a house and said, you're gonna see your house tonight for the first time. And you're bringing carry homes. I brought carry home to this house. I'd never seen at its night and fog is like down and low. And we go in and walk in and they flip the lights on.

And I could just tell that it was not to carry design sense at all. It was a mid-50s, lot of modern furniture, very, you know, eames, chairs, and stuff, and she. So that night was a difficult night. And then in the morning, I heard her talking to Paul Simon, her boyfriend at the time before, and I could hear her talking and hear, well, I'll be there in New York tomorrow or today. And I thought, oh, she's leaving. So I said, you know, Carrie, the view is supposed to be beautiful in the South. You should say, no, I have to get back.

I've got to go back to Paul. I've got to go back. I'm going back down to please take me to the airport. Nothing rank or reserve, but very amicable. I thought it was a reflux. We were getting married. I go, I drive her to the airport, get her on a plane, kiss her goodbye and say, I'll see you soon.

We'll hang, you know, I love you, I love you. And then she flies off and I drive in the Jeep back to the Martha's Vineyard house. And I'm kind of despondent. And I walk, I drive up to the house, and the fog has lifted. And I've got a 275 degree view of the ocean, the islands. And that it's beautiful, beautiful, got a 275 degree view of the ocean, the islands,

and that it's beautiful, beautiful, promontory that the house was on. I thought, you know, she saw that. She might have, she saw it in a merry today. It's like Manhattan, it's locked in. It's the only time we went, is it always foggy, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, that means that we we we're good friends all the way right to the end of her life of course and blues brothers I think it's one of those where a lot of people want to be around funny people and she's like if I and she's a big star But it's okay funny herself. Yeah, it's hilarious. Yeah, she's great in that. Yeah, she's great We had a ball of course, you know, because we we were making a movie and we're in love

You know me making a movie with so many of love. You can go to work in the morning with them. I can't imagine the rocket ship. You know, I have my own little success there too, Wayne's world. Anyway, but you guys, I'm doing a David there. Yeah. Blues Brothers, when I first saw that, I was like, this is so electric on every level.

So like you're enjoying it, you and John, the dancing and the energy of it was like, well this is something new. Different. This is like really musical too. Like the band was kicking. And then you guys were just so funny with all the stick. To me, again, just fantasizing about being on San

Night Live. Just those characters, don't get me started with wild and crazy guys. Don't even start with that one. Come on, I don't think me started with wild and crazy guys don't even start with that I don't think I can do that guy no more no you can't play around with accents anymore you can't have it you can't even talk about the parts on a woman the parts and we look they will love our American bulldozer what yeah the bulges yeah please he will be shocked by my great bulge Bulge is yeah, please You will be shocked by my great bulge

You know you gotta watch it these days. I mean, I was so influenced by you guys Musically You know you had a retouching Oh, she was you had a reason I think that is one of the greatest She was standing inside she looked so cute and that and that waiters out for she didn't want to wear the waitresses outfit No, I can't I can't and then she's never the dual didn't want to wear the waitresses outfit. No, I can't. I can't. And then she's never in the dual men, Landis's wife, the designer, designed this beautiful waitress outfit.

She looked great. She looked great. Yeah. She was even funnier than she had. So supportive of us all the way through. She always wasn't. So was Ray and everybody. Yeah.

And John Candy. Yeah, we had another candy. Was it legit? Yeah, and then we had cropper and done who were Mm-hmm. Oh, this Redding's guitar players. So that made it happen. Now I still play with with Jimmy John's brother We go out and we have an active concert schedule And we go out with a band that we got here from California and Texas that we put together over the years and We got a you know, we got a couple of what's more what's more fun than that? Oh, nothing. The music and the music that guitar and here that is the organ and, you know, moving.

I've got, you know, 78% of the moves left. So, you know, yeah, yeah. The last week it was 80, but declines. Yeah, I'm in the low 40s. Yeah, it's not, it's not all clicking. Or it all clicking. Or it is clicking. That's the point.

So you're going along, there's trading places, there's blues brothers, there's all these stuff we hit on Saturday night live. And then, and then, what's Dan gonna do now? And then, I don't know what the trajectory was, but then Ghostbusters was like, probably equivalent inflation adjusted, almost like gone with the winter something it was like

300 and That's right. So like 300 million now or oh my god, so what? Titanic and you thought of it you The day that day at that in the farmhouse with the old where the Sanuses take place when my great-great-grandfather had Sanuses So whether the old where the Sanuses take place when my great great-grandfather had Sanuses From the 20s and that and I was sitting there reading that journal and I just thought old style of it and Castello comedy with the real science Married up. It's brilliant. But who's the first person you told? Well, that would have been Bernie brilstein I guess. Oh, yeah, Bernie And then I love it and then all this and then I turned a draft in to both of those guys

And then we went to Ivan and Ivan got got it how it could be fixed and made what it was you wrote it fat Well, I got so much lengthwise, but it was a little darker I was a little it wasn't the movie you saw but it certainly had all of the stuff in there That became the movie all the elements were there So and then Ivan looked at it and then Ivan said, let's go to Harold and Harold looked at it and understood what I was trying to do here with it. And then we decided, what do we do about cast while?

And then Harold and Ivan looked at each other and said, well, if we could get Murray, we will give it to Murray. I mean, and then so we, he carried the ball for us. He was the master of those lines, those throwaway lines, his style, one of the probably the greatest comedy romantic lead of our of our of our generation and many many and him and Sigourney Weaver. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah. Beautiful. Brilliant. Beautiful at all. It was just magic once a film works. Yeah, yeah. But when something like that that's old and new, and then just next so strong, I remember going to, you know,

it was like jaws in a way. Huge lines, theater pads. It was a whole phenomenon. How strong. They have that hit. And because you could have screwed that movie up easily. I mean, it's a great idea. But everywhere along the line,

you know, in movies, you go in where it's good and you go, God, where do we go wrong? At the editing, the this, the casting, but to get it every step of the way, it comes out. Well, look at who was on it, right? Harold, great Ivan, the Richie, Maranna's had a great part. A star on it. A great Maranna's. No, Maranna's movie is wonderful. Wonderful, a big, human segurning and Ken.

Human segurning are big parts of why that movie works. It's wonderful. I invite business people. Him and Sigourney and Ken. Him and Sigourney are big parts of why that movie works. Great. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Well, I was on IMDB today because I could not remember who Dan Acred was. And so I looked him up.

And even Ghostbusters, there's like 80 iterations. It's like a cartoon. Now this, there's so many. Yeah. Because there's probably, I think there's a new one coming out. There's, there's, well, there's a new animated cartoon that they're working on. Okay. But is there a movie movie or not? Isn't I don't know what the status is with strikes and all that. They're till being on strike so as it really. Yeah. Well, then in March, Ghostbusters, Frozen Empire with McKenna Grace, Finn Wolfhardt, Billy,

myself, Winston Ernie, and Patton Oswald. Thank you very much, Paul Rudd. And Kerry Coon and you've already got a cast. Well, yeah, we are ready to go in March where they spectacular new release, a great new story, and it is gonna be hot and really fun, scary, whole new generation, handing it to the kids. Really excited, we completed it in England, and it's gonna be coming out in March.

Oh, so you did do it, so. It's done, it's done, it comes out in March. I just couldn't talk about it to this instant. I Read about this and then I thought maybe something happened. We have a we have a yeah, giving that blank. We have a scoop Fly on the wall. My intention. It's our first real scoop Talking about it for the first time in any media right here. Yeah, Paul Rudd. You've got Pairers wall. Yeah, Finn was from St. August How about that as a genius? And a great, great comic actor.

Oh yeah, serious actor too. Yeah, he is. Great delivery. Yeah, always. Any name ghosts? We got the Tic Tac Ghost from the Navy video. What's the plot? Oh yeah, what's the plot?

Can you tell us? Well, leave us to say that, uh, you know, an entity is found in a psychometrically charged object too much. Thank you. That's all I figured a whole thing out. Um, okay. I love it. I'm excited. It's really good. I'm going to do a free or a right now. Jason, uh, again, Keenan, uh, Gil Keenan directed it. Uh, Jason's partner. I love it. Jason did secondman. I'm gonna do a pre-order right now. Again, Gil Keenan directed it. Jason's partner.

Jason did second unit and they co-wrote together. Great guys. And of course the kids are wonderful. Oh yeah. I'm a Kenna fan and. And you do your guy. I do, you know, the enthusiastic, you know, wants to believe everything, you know.

Yeah. Kind of a little kind of resentful that, that, you know, things have passed him by Ghostbuster in this one, you know, because he's no longer licensed. You always have that skill set of putting a lot of words together, really. That is true. Like as a comic concept, you know, but, but, but, you know, that, does that something? It's because it's like my mother was French Canadian. My mother was French Canadian and I grew up around French can a and French can a

different kind they speak very fast like that. You put a bit comes out. No, no, you're being sealer. I meant my son. No, no, no, no, no, they they'll they'll they'll talk a lot of fast. But we'll be right now. Give me the salt, give me the pepper, give me the steak, give me the potato, give me a cup, but you want some wine, you the... Talk like that, they're fast. Yeah. French Canadian.

So I had this always, you know, and plus sitting around the table, there'd be 14 family members, and you know, you couldn't get a word in, unless you'd interject it and interject it in there. So how did you go from like 14-year- 15 year old and then you were really, were you on SNL 21 or 22 or something? Well I was 23, the first year. So young, so what, just quickly, I mean, for your fans. Second city at 21 and 22.

What, you're late, 10 or more? And more than 19, I worked with him on a CDC special at 19. And his show, yeah, Harden, then Harden, the Lauren Terrific Hour. You were on that. It was an offshoot of that. That's right. So you were like 18 or 19, you're on television,

you can't even do a sketch comp. That's right, that's right. Okay, it's called a Saban. Yeah, well it was called an early adopted. Yeah, it was being steeped and improv. My parents sent me at 12 years old, an auto-a little theater improv class. And so I was already doing it sort of back then, you know. It just, it came to you. It's like Larry Bird.

He said, when basketball, he first got a basketball hand. So the game came to me. So it just came to you. It was, it was, it was, you know, it was, it was, it was, I was encouraged to pursue it. And it was fun to do improv in that. And then at Second City, I was learning all the techniques over again that I'd already known at 12 and 13 years old at the little theater improv classes. Yeah. So started early, you know. It seems to me that in your part of this, we're talking to Michael McKean and, you know, the Beatles and all the music of the 60s.

Yeah. And then the trendling along with Peter Sellers, and then you all kind of knew each other from 70 or 75, or you know, it's very interesting because you were like the Beatles of Comedy to me the SNL cast. Well, you had the Lampoon crew, you had Chubby and you had Chris Guest and Harry Sheer and you had Johnny, Balushi, and then you had the Guilda eventually

because Belushi stole her away there from Second City. Then you had the Canadian crew, Levy, O'Hare on myself, Candy, Moranis, Thomas. Yeah, that was the best. So there were two. And the Venn diagram kind of crossed, and some of those people ended up working with each other on various things. Yeah, but I think my first... The first time, like for as like getting interested in entertainment, okay, I'm in grade three.

Now what the hell? In grade three, I'm like five years old, maybe four, eight? No, eight. I'm grade three. So I go..., grade three. So I go, you're 17. I was, I was, you know, I was, you know, five or three or a four or five, I guess, in grade three or so.

Yes. So what happened? And so they, they were doing an Irish St. Patrick's Day concert and they compelled me to learn McNamara's band, you know, that song, da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da leprechaun shoes, put me out on stage with a sink track. And they may be learned, they may be stay back from school to learn. And so the concert comes and we go, I go to the concert and I start singing and I'm like, I'm just going to get through this. God, I remember it vividly. Well, God, and I get to the end and finish and give the tap dance finish and

Owling the crowd the wow really you like that that much and I'm thinking to myself Oh, wow, that's good. And so I was the big applause and they take me off stage into the wings I give back my bowler and I'm thinking oh man that wow that that was very, very interesting. And then two of my friends, Ricky and Greg come up, Rick Hollingsworth and Greg should have us. And they come up and they say, yeah, that was nothing, man. Like the bad donkeys and bad donkeys and over in the Pinocchio, the bad bad guy. Yeah, you're not so bad.

Yeah, you ain't so bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Think that was good. You think that came here. Come on with us. Let me show you something. Let me show you this. Let's let's show you this. They take me across the street to the funeral home across the street from the church hall where I did the concert. So I go from the elation of singing McNamara's band and getting cheered to two minutes later walking to the funeral home where seven bodies are laid out. What? A family that had grounded in a car

that I before, seven, the father, the mother, the sisters, the brother. God, these stockbogers don't need to be fainted. I go, the Jesus. Look at this. And I walk in, I'll never forget that as long as I like. He'd rolled his car in the Gattano River and drowned. And so they bring me from, you know, my performance

from the St. Euphoria to, whoa. But are they jealous? I didn't know. Well, that was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a Nambi Pambi sin. You know, my performance was just right. You're for you too. Whoa. But are they jealous? I didn't know. Well, there was a, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a Nambi Pambi scene and they look at these dead people. So they go over and there were the seven on a baby coffin too. Jesus, great.

I didn't do any jigs for years and years afterwards. That's turned me right off any kind of performance. That's a true story. He's not weird. Oh, wow. And then the horrifying bodies, the The family and all beautifully preserved. Never forget the dark eyebrows. Mother and father. I'm still processing this story. So maybe it was exhilaration and they yeah, yeah, at age five, six, they want to

they ruined. Yeah. So I didn't dance or sing for years after. Weirdly my first gig was in a funeral home. Well, that's a whole lot of story. David, I played a dead body in that scene. No, you went on SNL, so you get there. What's your first big sketch that works? Is it just a very first show or a... Asomatic.

How the first sketch that works was the one that the one that DeGarrett and I did as home, home invasionists to prove to the homeowner that their house was vulnerable. And so we break into their home to prove it was vulnerable, yeah. And then pitched them on an alarm system. Is that first show? That was the first sketch I was in, yeah. Yeah. And that was the Wolverine one. It opened, cold opening was John the Wolverine with Michael Donnie, you. And then we had the home invasion sketch. You were after the monologue? After the monologue.

When was it? That's a good spot. The home runs spot. Who was the host of your first show? George Carlin. George Carlin. George Carlin. I waited on him once at a holiday hand.

I brought him oatmeal. It goes oatmeal. Drop the O and you have that meal. I did it really. Yeah. Why is there no blue shoes? Big shoes, little shoes, little shoes, brown shoes, girl shoes. He was, that was, he was working on it. Don't tell me about Richard

prior to. I, I, I was a waiter at the holiday and I waited on all. Oh, because it was next to the circus or at the end of the year. Yep. Waited on Rich Little. Everyone said, go to the end of the island. Oh, no, this was on the peninsula. It was a theater in the Highland? Oh, no. This was on the peninsula, was a theater in the round, like, the near Michigan. Oh, no, the peninsula, South of San Francisco. Oh, I saw South of it. Yeah, yeah. I see, right? And they all stayed at the holiday.

Yeah, yeah. So they were, you know, I gave Richard Prior to the Brombole, stuff like that, you know. Yeah, well, you know, I find the great people are really nice. The ones who are really great are nice. And the medium talent people aren't so nice, you know. I've kind of, I think that's true. You know, he was a great Richard, while prior Anne and Carla, and they were both, yeah. And they would have been gracious to you. Very nice. I did a movie with prior. Oh, yeah, very sensitive and sweet and great, great. Vulnerable. Did he host you, either?

What's up? Did he host? Richard Pryor hosted. You remember helping to write to that show? Oh, right, sir. Fair enough, sir. Yeah, fair enough. Oh, that's right. Yeah, Tom. That's Tom.

I think I was doing Harry Sheerer doing Tom's. He did a great Tom Snyder. Oh, really? No, standing. Oh, Tom. Everybody. I remember seeing I loved Tom. I was a kid. I didn't know. Dan, I'm really. I'm standing, I'm standing, ah, Tom, everybody. I remember seeing, I love Tom. I was a kid, I didn't know.

Dan, I'm so young. No, I'm not, but I was watching it going, I never thought of being on set in life. I just was, every kid loves comedy. And I was like, oh my god, and this Tom's not, I was just starting to get why it was so funny. I didn't really get the depth of how funny it was. I'm like, that's like the guy I just saw.

And it was so good, It was like that dumb little studio and it's a little lady. You have a cigarette and all that stuff. I mean, Fred Garvin, was that, was his name Fred Garvin, male prostitute? Well, that's right. What a lady. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. See, for the lady. Yes, the lady. The name is funny. At the time. Fred Garvin. That's the set's its male prostitute.

Yeah. And he announces himself their way. But you know, the copycats in rich little The name is funny at the time. I'd go out of that to set. It's a title. Yeah, I'll tell you the news. And he announces himself their way. But you know, the copycats in Rich Little and that generation Frank Gorshin and those are the shows I was watching. And I love those, love those impressionists Rich Little, Fred Trevalina, Gorshin, right. Yeah, extraordinarily gifted.

Yeah, they were great. That was like magic to me. But when you guys came in and did them in a different, a different context, it was just postmodern. Yeah. It's just a lot of great impressions on the show. For Hartman was spectacular. And we've referenced you and Phil,

there's a connection, a personality-wise. So you both have so many interests outside of being quasi effortless performers, and then would go read these journals. It was a pilot. Yeah, he's a pilot He was sailing. He was I love him too. He was wonderful. You did Bilko with him. Yeah, that's right. Steve. Yeah Yeah, here's to fill Chris John and a lot to be thankful for at this time of year.

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Yeah, it tastes good. It should be on every bar in the world. Crystal head just in just a few seconds, poor you get out of here. How'd you come up with that name? Well, it's based on the legend of the Crystal Had's, which from Indiana Jones? Was referenced in the Indiana Jones movie

and they made a movie about it. In fact, we were developing the concept, kind of right in parallel. And I find out that Stephen's doing this movie About crystal heads. So I actually called him to take a meeting to tell him You know, we're not copying your enterprise here. We started At the same time and it takes two years to build a project like this and so I said what we know when your movie comes out we will be out on the marketplace. We will have been out a little before, but I explained to him that we,

and it wasn't kind of a plagiarism, and it wasn't really. Crystal had, there were 13 of them. What if he still have them you? I don't know, the lead time doesn't work out in terms of like when the both projects came to fruition. But the Navajo, the Aztec, the Mayans, we're supposed to have had these heads and they were

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I have one more question for this young man. It takes off during that when you leave SNL, you did a lot of big movies. You probably got offered so many ones that you wish you did or there's movies that you got offered. Other than James Bond. I know. God would have like spies like us. Mm. Other than James Bond. I do. Yeah, I could have liked. Spies like us.

I don't. Oh, Spies like us was so fucking great. I don't know that I was offered anything that I turned down and it became, I know I don't think so. No, that's where you go. I should have done that one. Spies like us was unreal. That was you and Chevy.

Yeah, I did audition for things that I didn't get. Oh, the people versus Larry Flint, I audition for did audition for things that I didn't get the the people versus Larry Flint I audition for the part of the lawyer played by Edward Norton I auditioned for Milos Foreman You know and I read a couple of times done done. Do you work with him? I audition for Amadeus. Oh did you yeah? Don't stop for Amadeus. Oh, did you? Yeah, done, done, done, done, done, stop. Stop. Oh, really? I'm acting. He was too bored with the idea. I think we're ready to move on. Yeah, yeah.

During years, why didn't know what I was doing, but I did. I saw the movie and I go, okay, I see they wanted a blonde hair, it's a ruby guy. Boy, do you go off script and do chopping, Brogaly? No, but I... I wanted to be on Saturday Night Live. Yeah, I know. You know, you know, my thing. And you guys did and you were great and, you know, today you're your stuff and you're as just as strongly as anything that we ever did in that first cast.

You know, if you look at church lady and all your impressions and everything, and you're flight attendant, of course. Oh, yeah, a classic, a classic. Oh, yeah. All of it great. My theory is this, is that music and comedy just have to reflect the times. And so we were for our time. Yeah.

And then I don't ever want to be a grumpy old man about Taylor Swift. She's no John Lennon. You know, that kind of thing. I said, and tried to really a grumpy old man about Taylor Swift. She's no John Lennon, you know, that kind of thing. I said, tried to really do a deep dive in the Taylor Swift because I want to know, and she's incredibly skilled. And same thing with Sarah Knight Live now. This is their era. And they're great.

And they're great. And Higgins said, Steve Higgins just said, lore, he said, lore wrote the Constitution. And then everyone interprets it for their for their time. Yeah for their era So no the show's in really great really great the Halloween show is Outstanding writing really really very smart Gurba Gurba We had him on the podcast a couple days later. Yeah, he was a great

Really good writer. He's he's so excited about that. He only done talk shows. Quality work. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, George. Yeah, well, when I wait, I mean, I live a very very cool life right now, very quiet. Good. I'm not in the cities. I'm in the country. That's all in the hot. I used to have a grand national that was pretty sweet. Yeah, right, all right. That old black national, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, black grand national.

The story you go to and everyone knows your name kind of thing. No, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, yeah, one of the motorcycle or take one of the old, you know, the old cars in. It seems to me just from afar. You've always had one foot still in whatever,

you call regular life. I would say so. Yeah. Circle friends, get a steak. I don't know. I've heard things, but it seems like you've always kept that. Oh, sure. Well, of course, after for sanity. Yeah. But I don't like living in cities anymore. I prefer living in the country just because I have tinnitus, you know, the ringing and also to sleep at night, the blackness. You need the blackness to sleep. And where I have a place that the mountain air's coming in. And I can open my eyes or close my eyes.

Black. Black. Yeah, yeah. And dead quiet. All of here is the coyotes, sometimes the whole party. But it is so good. The deep sleep you get there. It'll prolong life that sleep.

It really will. Mine's being short and I'm about 40 feet from sunset it's quiet and this is a fortress here David I'm sorry the great reset plus he's got a lot of food no he stocks a lot of food this whole thing Dan first of all, we've all looked up to you. We your lovely guy. You're always nice. We interviewed you for Spin Magazine. I got an SNL. Yeah. Yeah. And you're so cool. And just the fact that you still generous everything and talking to us. We love just bullshitting about the old day. Yeah. Yeah. You know, there is an

expression, Canadian nice. And I want to count Canada once and did a gig and there is Canadian nice. There's Minnesota nice but Canadian nice was like I was just at a table before I was going to go out there and a guy's like he saw me look at some water. Hey, did you like some water there? I can get some water for you. So there is Canadian nice and my shirt is yourself and it's very sweet and my wife's Canadian so I'm much a part of it. She's very nice too. Sure, sure. She listens to the podcast. I just said Calgary last weekend and everyone's nice.

Yeah, it's as Canada is just a cool country. Not a rumor. It's real. Yeah. So when it went down, it's been such an honor and a pleasure. You've been a big part of the puzzle of our little project here and we're so glad to have you. I'm going to hang against soon. Yes Yes, see around campus is what I say. I'm like,

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