Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Drew Barrymore

Episode Date: April 20, 2022

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Peloton app available through free tier, or pay subscription starting at 12.99 per month. You guys, it's Paid and Carvee here at the old Flying the World Dungeon doing, and in show for Drew Barrymore. But we love it. It's impressive. And here's my house. And the garbagey business out.

But oh, Z Gallery, thanks. You like the furnishings? So I was going to tell you, we have Drew coming up right now. And here's a story that I didn't tell you before. Are we on camera right now? And I don't think we always are. Oh, let me just get it. Oh, let me go.

It's true, man. Yeah, how you doing? What's that camera? When I, when you, no, I'm scared to ask her, but that movie lost and found I did. Oh, a couple of people will see it. I like to go. Oh, a couple of people will remember. Okay.

So, lost and found was this movie was all right, but I didn't. We were looking for the lead. And and so the guys that did the money said If you know Drew Barrymore, she'd be perfect. I said, oh she'd be great But it was sort of in this time in her career when she might have done it. She might have done it And everyone loves Drew Barrymore. So I said oh, we'd be so perfect. It'd be great So they said if you can get it to her we can pay her price and she had a quote I won't say what it was but it wasn't great. So they said, if you can get it to her, we can pay her price. And she had a quote, I won't say what it was, but it wasn't great, it was good, you know?

There's more than I got. But I said, oh, if we can get her. So I got to her through her agent. She said, okay, let's have dinner. She read it. And then about a week later, she said she'd do it. Anyway, we blew it. We couldn't get her the money.

The guy couldn't get her the money. So it was a big scam and I felt bad. And then also, and I think she went and did a wedding singer, which was obviously way better movie, but whatever. Anyway, but I think that during this, there was a time when we were talking, I think we kissed. Is this crazy? And I might be lying, but that's why I don't want to ask her because what if it's not true? But in my head, I think we did and it was no big deal. It's just like funny or stupid, but no big romance. But I think we kiss and I have to check my diary, but she has to check hers. Really?

And you should check yours too, just to get this. Wow. Wow. Isn't that crazy? Sorry, I just turned to our friend Rob. Wow. And Rowan Wilson, wow! That's interesting, you're not sure you kissed.

I don't know. I think that's maybe a little bit of a diss. Wouldn't it be like memorable? No, because when she had that movie, never been kissed, I go, oh, I don't think so. Oh, but I was like, but I don't know if I'm gonna answer. Well, we did go out once. We had dinner once and-

You withdrew? Yeah. You're gonna scour me. I'm not gonna say much more. And I said, I'm so much more dating lately and she goes, this is my 50 second date. Reference to the movie. She goes, long way to go.

Some girl, I tried to kiss me once. I forgot her name, I think you're friends of them. It's very, well, I feel paternal to her. She's been a part of America since ET. She, you know, and it's about as cute as a kid could ever be. And she was so great in that movie. And now she's still here. I think the thing I take away from Drew is just the positivity is real. And it's how you get things done in the world is by just never letting the flag touch the ground. You know, she's just a force of nature. Yeah, she can do it all. She's a producer, she's a writer, she's a performer, obviously, she really helps women in the industry, she does it all and got a great talk show right now. So let's hear from her. Let's hear from her. This is, this is, I remember when I met her, she said,

you remind me of a kind of a gross version of ET. And I go, oh, I didn't even see the movies. I don't know what that meant, but I go, oh, it's a star. I know. Well, after our 52nd date, you know, I just tried to be pitted. Are you trying to do 51st date? What, what's 51st date?

Is that a movie? She was in, I don't know. I'm after our 52nd date. I just as a joke, I got up, and I, that a movie shoes in? I don't know, after our 52nd date, I just as a joke I got up, because this before cell phones I go, I have to, Dana Carlton, sorry. I was trying to eat tea, but Johnny Carson came out. I know.

Oh, let's just go to the show. Tee, phone, house, phone, home. No, Johnny would say, sorry Drew, it's our 52nd date. And I've got a call home. I, John Lee would say, sorry Drew, it's her 52nd date. And I've got to call home. I, you know, whatever. David, I'm glad your, my IQ is lowered since the podcast started. I really, I really, I really, I really, I really, I really, I really, I really, I really , I really, I really, I really, I really, I really, I really, I really, I really, I really

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you guys both do it and I forgot. I used to do it like crazy. I was, his was so great. I feel like we, you know, at some point we'll just tell I was going to say, yeah, that if they said you were the best ever, I wouldn't slug them the face. But there's 50 people that could be mentioned. You know, there's, it's just, people love to have lists. Yeah. I don't know what my Rudolph to go. What's, what's going on? But he's definitely up there.

Well, he just, it's kind of like Wilforte. They, that middle knots, that early to 2010 or 12, whatever knots. Had a lot. It's the grossest. I know. Had a lot of, had a lot of talent. That's why I list it all to the men. I forgot my I know. Had a lot of talent. That's why I listed all the men.

I forgot my Rudolph. There's a lot of talent. Where's that lady? Oh my God, you guys, I've been here the whole time screaming. It was on fucking mute. Oh, I didn't want to interrupt you. I was like, oh, I guess they're going and rippin' up.

Yeah. You thought we were ignoring you the whole time. You were on the wall. I was, I was listening in. You were talking about my Rudolph and the nots or the odds or whatever, calling him. And I literally was. I was, I was listening in. You were talking about Maya Rudolph and the knots or the knots or whatever, calling them back. And I literally was like, oh, I guess when they're ready, they'll invite me in.

But these are like the high class problems of our current world. I, you're on mute. I can't see or screen as often. This is the new verbiage for us. But I actually have been sitting here waiting to jump into the double Dutch literally. I'm so excited that you guys would have me on your show. Are you crazy? Are you both of you so much? I'm in. I'm double-dutching with you right now. And I'm loving. My wife said, oh, Drew's so sweet, she's so fun.

That's so much energy. And I go, you think? I don't know. I'll tell you what happens. But already, yeah, exactly what she promised. She's well, she's so kind. And she's definitely right about the energy part. I'm a lot.

I'm like a lab lab or door in heat. I like the heat. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard people say that. Yeah. I am. I but like, yeah, well, that was my, go ahead. No, go ahead. I like. I'm a lot of hard heat. But then I, when I'm happy, when I'm intense, I think I'm a whole other metaphor. But when I'm happy, I'm like a Labrador and heat panting,

probably trying to grab your leg, you know. Interesting. Well, I read some things about you last night and it was truly impressive and exhausting. How much you packed in. So I mean, my God. The Labrador and heat, I'm going at how young you are from where I'm purchased. It's like, damn, you got, where does that come from? Where's the motor to do all this and then become a producer? Now this, and I don't know, I can't even...

Maybe a hard question to ask. More of an Oprah question or Larry King. I love it. I'm like, I did not expect the, how do you do it question that's traditionally a woman to woman? Oh, well, yes, and a mom working mom. Yeah. Yeah. I like like that you guys are asking it because yeah, we're real thinkers, true. Well, we love we love women basically. I and I love and I love funny men. So this is a match made in heaven. Oh, win, win. I do it by burning the candle at both ends. I actually am here editing our next issue

of a magazine that we're making, of course. And I think about, it's weird, a lot of people will ask that question. And I think I've been so passive about my answer because my humility wants to go, no, no, no, I don't do that much. Let me turn it back to you. Yes. And lately I've been for this magazine and trying to think of some content for it. I've been looking at the how and the way, not the how and the eye, but I think that it's really messy.

And I was brought up sort of, we all lived in that world where we would see those articles where people were like, hey, day-end, I drink my coffee and I'd do this. Okay. Mark Wahlberg. Yeah. Like 10.30. I do this. And I never lived that life. And it seemed so type A and unattainable.

And I was more the, you never know where the day is going to take you, whimsical. Or I will burn myself to a crisp and then I'll find that pocket of rest and wellness somewhere else. So I don't I don't know how anyone does it and if they do it in an organized fashion, they have my deepest respect. And if they feel like it all feels like putting out fires and kind of burning yourself out and it's all like a Higgledy-piggledy mess. And it's super comedic. And there are chickens running through the frame

and like, Randall, funny shit is going on. That feels so true to our, to my experience. And I would never preach to anyone that I have it together, or that I'm a blueprint. I'm just a work in progress. And so far, I'm shocked in some ways that I am a relatively healthy person, because I feel like I don't live a very healthy lifestyle. Geez, and that's been Drew Baramore today.

We appreciate you. No, listen, amazing. Go ahead, I have a question. No one argues that she's busy. Her IMDB looks like a CVS receipt. And if you could see her zoom, it looks like House and Garden, me and Dana look like we're in a bunker in Kabul. Yeah, we're in a place like gorgeous.

It looks like she looks fresh as a daisy. Fresh as a daisy, gorgeous. Oh boy. Oh, because I have hair and makeup because I'm at the show. And by the way, on my headstone, will first sure say death by inspo because I'll have inspired myself into the grave. Like, I can't even look at a woman's shoe without going, do you mind if I take a quick picture of that

because that color tone would just be so great for the packaging on the next thing I'm gonna give. Like, I cannot, I can't stop. And sometimes I feel like I wish I could just like have like quick temporary, you know, I think that's probably why I drank so much back in, you know, most of my life. Oh, you drinking what? What do you mean?

You had a problem. You had to shut it down. I was like, you shut off and you were like, I can't take it anymore. Dude, you know what? Yeah. Yeah. Dude, you know what? Yeah. Yeah. I was paying the red and that's a lot of stress. That, that, yeah, fairly uncommon thing for a human being in America to be paying the rent at seven. True. I didn't relate. Dana, I didn't tell you this. I was a child star

too. I, when I was, my dad was an advertising, he was like a madman type of guy. When I was five, I was pretty cute. I had a good run from five to eight. So when I was five, and my brother, my dad goes, why don't you be in this Taco Bell commercial that we're filming because they were part of it? And he goes, they need some kids. We'll throw you in. We'll give you a 10 bucks. And he goes, they need some kids. We'll throw you in.

We'll give you a 10 bucks. And I was like, holy shit. So they put $10, $1 bills out for me on my desk. I probably got 1,000, but they kept it. And they go, here's your 10. And then they took nine of it. And I go, so you already took a cut. I'm sure before I saw it. Then I get 10. And then you go, will hold it. And I go, wait you already took a cut, I'm sure, before I saw it.

Then I get 10 and then you go, will hold it and I go, wait, what's going on? And then I had a dollar left. Like, oh, they go, go nuts. You guys, I was like, I hear that. I was still, I didn't put down my waiter's apron till 23 and a half. You guys start right out of kindergarten.

You know what I have to start. Can I ask you a question Drew, because you kinda talked about like Reese Witherspoon, okay, she's another like, how does she do all that? And I heard her kind of own it, like in the way men can sort of own it, like okay, I get out of my way, I can do anything basically.

The yeah, is it difficult for you to have that gear because people would okay, I get out of my way, I can do anything basically. Yeah. Is it difficult for you to have that gear? Because people would say, I'm nice. They say, you're nice. And but, you know, where do you have that part of you that has a ego? Like can kind of give yourself, give yourself a pat on the back. I don't. So that's why you just keep going. Yeah. and I know Reese. So she's just incredible. That she is a good, hot question mark

of how the hell does she do it? I feel like I had so much opportunity because of starting as a kid that the gender effect never had me. It never had my attention. It was squandered early because I started working as a baby and kept working. So I never had the anything other than I could do all these things and they're my opportunities to screw up or make something of and There were men and women giving me those opportunities. I just wrote the forward to the new ET book because it's the 40th anniversary And I was talking about Kathleen Kennedy and Melissa Matheson, you know, I saw women at work

so I Los Methis and, you know, I saw women at work. So I just really didn't have that I need to be aggressive or act like a man to get anything done. I always felt permission to check in with my idols, the gogos, and Pippi long stocking, who were all girl all the time, but they did everything that boys did. And it became my ethos on making Charlie's angels was why do women have to pretend to be men in order to look strong and capable? Because the truth is in my world, if I was kicking butt with my girlfriends, We would totally be talking about last night's date while taking the bad guy down.

And bad guy could be, again, bad guy or bad girl. I've never been affected. Luckily, I've not had the unfortunate on-genue treatment of being held back. Or as I started a production company at 19, and it was really in the era of the power suit woman. I was like intimidated by that and just felt like screw it. I'm going to be a girl with my quarteries and my transport backpacks and the work is going to speak for me and no man has ever kept me down. They've only helped give me opportunities as women have. And I'm just, I'm a girl. And I,

I think the one thing that's always stuck out for me about men first and foremost was that, like, a lot of my comedy influence when I was young came from men. There weren't a ton of female comedians. Yeah. There's so many more now. I feel like the playing field is so much more equal. So I identified men a lot with funny and that was a good thing. I didn't think of men as my bosses or anyone who was gonna hold me back or I had to be like them. I had fortunate liberation my entire life like that. And I hate boss bitch. I hate it, boss lady.

It sounds like you're hanging a pair of balls on you with bitterness, and I don't like that, because I don't have one bitter bone in my body. However, if people have to put, you know, metaphorical balls on or a cape or do any mechanism to empower themselves, that I stand back and do not judge. Because everybody has their process of how they get to bravery. She has the best answers. I know. Oh my God. They're unreal. Oh, David Spade, I love you so much. I mean, my God. We have to talk about acid. And also, by. Oh, David Spader, I love you so much.

I mean, my God. We have to talk about S and L. So by the way, back to ET, to have two women that high up in the chain, must have been nice back then. And they must have had an even keel about them because you look up to them and you don't see them. I mean, there is equal up there with everybody that are running a huge, huge movie. That's good. That's a good influence early on. And Steven Spielberg

was flanked by these two women. Frank Marshall, the therapist, Kathleen Kennedy, and Melissa Matheson. And Melissa wrote it just for our viewers. Melissa wrote it. She was married to Harrison Ford at the time. They were very close. They had the script for years. They were making the Indiana Jones movies. They were all a tight-knit group. She had this script. It was called a boy's life. ET was called? Yeah, it wasn't called E.T. until after the film was made. I guess maybe in marketing, I'd have to ask you about it. It was called a little gross monster for a little bit, I heard. Cute little alien. Okay, go ahead.

Dana, ask her a question. S&L, what are you doing? I know, I'm so, I'm so, I'm a little stuck. I'm so excited. I'm little stuck. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. It's fascinating by your life. I'm so cool. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

I'm so excited. I'm so excited. It's fascinating by your life. I'm so cool. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I so many ways. But in no way did I participate

the way that you guys have. For people don't know it. Yeah, you've hosted six times, which is a record for. Yeah, I'm tied. I'm tied right now. I talk with Candice Pergon. Nope. She's five. I think I'm tied with Scar Jo. Who I pretty sure is going to beat me because she's great. Oh, she's married to Colin.

She's got a fast track. We're going to book her for three a year. Oh, she makes big movies that are gonna, I'm sure she's gonna beat me and I love her so much and we just did the show together. She's gonna beat me. And if anyone's gonna beat it, but here's a record I do hope that I think I will be,

it will be bittersweet when it happens. I am still the youngest. Yes. Yes. In 1982 at seven years old. Yes. That one's going to hurt. That's going to be a tough one. That's in really no danger. I don't know. I wonder how has it not been taken? How the hell is that not happen well because it's child abuse Hey kid you're gonna I can't even handle I was crying when I hosted and I'd done 200 shows yeah Well, hey you go back there and you're like wait, what do I do and the band's playing? It's terrifying I'm 47 and I can't even but did it was the monkey a surprise

Yes, yes, what's that I was a non-circuit of her David I'm 47 and I can't even, but did it was the monkey a surprise? Yes, yes, the total surprise. I was a non-circuit of her, David. Yeah, go ahead, we explain that, because that was awesome. Tim Kassarinsky, who I'd have just adorable crush on, I just thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. They didn't want me to have to deal with an opening monologue and they sort of addressed with an opening monologue.

They sort of addressed that in the monologue and they say instead, we're going to do a Q&A with Tim and Drew. We're to say your name. He asked me questions on little index cards. I'm adorable. Then at the end, he says, we have a surprise for you. And they bring out this monkey eye.

She's pansy, yeah. I don't know what the point of it was other than to be a cutest thing. And the most delightful surprise for anyone let alone a seven year old girl. I remember so many different emotions. most delightful surprise for anyone let alone a seven year old girl. I remember so many different emotions. Steven Spielberg came and he's very much probably the only father figure I've really had in my life. And he was very parental.

And on the show night, he brought Robin Williams which scared me to death because I was so obsessed with Robin Williams. And that felt very intimidating to me. And who's blabbing? Yeah. Somebody's auditioning back there. Sorry.

Sorry. Tell him you don't want to get spayed, mad. They're all right. Exactly. So, Robin Williams. So Robin Williams. And it was such a weird mixed bag because there, there, I was in the opening scene, which I didn't realize until way later, how hard it is to get in the scene before the credits. Like I spent my young adulthood fighting to get that opening scene. and it's really the cold open

And I was in it and they all circle around me and I'm sad about something and they are rallying me up And then they said, you know, would you like a glass of milk? And I remember my line was milk. I'm a very more I want to drink and make it a double. And seven years. Seven. Wait, little did I know how tree that would end up coming? You were like all kidding aside, make it a double. Was there was there a family history of that at all or?

Oh my God. I mean, they all died of consumption. I literally my grandfather died of consumption. I think Estelle and Lionel were a bit more put together, but yeah, total hedonists and artists and a long line of alcoholism. And yeah, so it's highly genetic, obviously. It's highly genetic, obviously. It is highly genetic, but I'm gonna be the one who breaks that in our chain. Great good.

I haven't had a drink in almost three years and it's a really good feeling. Well, what's your happy place? How do you calm down then? Do you meditate? Do you take a bath? Do you run around the block? How do you calm that thinking brain without alcohol? Yeah, I'm not sober. I don't work a program. I realized my relationship with alcohol was

the most toxic one in my life. And when I had been trying to master since I was nine years old and did start drinking. And that, yeah, I had to find a way, I had to find a different way to live. And I can sort of trace every negative thing back in my life and there's probably alcohol dancing in there somewhere. And it's like the best breakup I've ever had in my life. And it's so confident and quiet. And I've ever had in my life. And it's so confident and quiet. And I have a bar in my house. I serve people drinks.

I have no hangups about it. I'm just like so psyched at this choice, to finally cut this like cancer out of my life. It's something, excuse me. Well, you feel better too. I mean, there's a lot of positives. If you can get through it, it's a lot of a lot of upside. And so how did you manage all these movies and this massive career while how and by being

was it sort of binge drinking or would you know, people look the other way? Um, I think, you know, when you do burn the candle at both ends and you are prolific, that's part of the fooling yourself. Like, but I'm doing all this work. So I'm functioning. And that was definitely my justification. But I was more of like, when I partied, I was the crazy one.

Like I can think of another SNL alum, Chris Katan, who's nickname and I for each other is rooftops, because we would get wasted and jump off my roof and to the pool. And I had a lot of fun with that. And they're there. It wasn't all bad.

And then I think when kids came into my life, I realized that this was no longer sustainable. And I made a hard choice. And it's the best one I've ever made when it was just me and my life. I guess I didn't matter to myself enough to find the balance. My kids mattered more to me than I did. I found the balance and it didn't come easy and it wasn't pretty. We always wish we had done things sooner, but I'm here and I'm so happy to be here.

That in itself, I think think has replaced a ton of meditation and jogging and new agey stuff and self-help and self-care, just being a person who isn't corroded with guilt and dysfunction and blame. Like, I had a bad girl narrative growing up. So every time I did something wrong, I went straight back to, well, you're a bad girl. So what the fuck else do you think? It's you. You're the bad girl.

And if it's kind of your thing, like she's the drinker and the fun party girl, then you're like, it's already sort of backed it in. So no one's going to get mad. That's kind of what they want. 100%. I'm the good time girl. And I did have a good time. I wasn't willing to give it up for a long time.

I was balancing it in a way that I was And I did have a good time. I wasn't willing to give it up for a long time. I was balancing it in a way where I was working my ass off. I work hard, I played hard. And that was okay for 30 years. And then I think growing up isn't overrated. I'm totally into it. I really, I feel so lucky to have arrived at a more peaceful, saner place. I'm 47 and I don't know if it,

I just only know my own journey. I started so much younger than other people in many ways, but I think a lot of my wisdom came later. And that's okay. I don't even ask people with their ages because I don't give a shit. I don't think it's gonna tell me everything about you.

You're gonna tell me. It's good point. If I have to ask people what their ages I'll literally say what's your number because it's not indicative of your journey. There are people who have clawed their way through life at such a young age and been dealt such strange cards, and there are people who just can't seem to mature

no matter how hard everyone around them is trying. David? No. You said David? No. That was a joke. Look at him in his mansion. He's very very successful Listen, I was what I went up my when I was nine years old my mom would say you're not drinking till you're nine

Like Drew and I go right. That's a weird. We had a tough rule No, I've got my shit together Drew. Um, no, I don't do you know together, Drew. No, I don't. But Drew, no. No, we're Canadians. We're damaged little clowns. Yeah, we're little clowns. It was an interesting lesson growing up, being such a lover of male comedians. So many wake up calls on who used the sort of torture as an excuse to

who used the sort of torture as an excuse to behave a certain way or be kind of an intense person or you know, I had a- You talk to me or Dana. And those who didn't, you know, and I would definitely gravitate towards the ones who didn't, but I, I, and my mom, by the way, when I was a kid, not only did I get to do SNL at seven years old, but my mom worked as a waitress in the comedy store. So I now have a character that I do for the digital on our show named Mitsy Beninimo, and it's all dedicated to Mitsy Shor, really.

And she's the inspiration for it. And I get to ask questions that I can't get away with on daytime television. And I got a wig and a look and a whole thing. And I, you know, it's great. Sounds so funny coming out of you. Do you out of Mitzi's stories? Because we have stories about Mitzi, you know? Holly, sure, was my babysitter.

Oh, oh, wow. Sorry, I don't know. Sorry, Ronald, everything okay. I picked out him and Donna. Him and Donna Van Leech used to look after me sometimes. Like, our parents didn't, I mean, my mom is an extreme case. And, you know, but like a lot of people were in that time. Like, we did not parent back then the way we do now. And it's crazy.

The scrutiny and the helicopter parenting and the guilt and the books and the rights and the wrongs and the do's and the don'ts. Yeah, my mom just left me with Paulie and Donovan while she and Mitzi were off at work. It was fun. I loved it. And my mom gave me such a rich history

on who each and every comedian was, and what their body of work was, and what Steve Martin meant, and what Robin Williams meant, and who these people that came and did a set that night, or here's the person I've been coming. It's very in my DNA. And so for me, getting on this podcast with you guys, like, I'm the one freaking out.

I don't know what so much of my life would be without the things that you both have put into the world. And comedy is a pure healing thing. I call it medicine always. And I've been trained like a little seal to appreciate and understand the power of when someone makes you laugh, they take away your pain and stress. They give you a respite from your trauma and your damage and your worries and the things you got to do and the things that have affected you, you are liberated and free in that moment because your chemistry changes.

You can't laugh and worry at the same time. I mean, by the way, the more you're worried, I hope the more you are laughing because it's the only way you're going to survive it. Well, this leads me to a question because you're given a background on what comedy meant to you and learning this in real time with you. What does it mean to have hosted SNL for you? So then you go into America's comedy pile, basically, and you host it six times. I mean, what does that mean to you and how thrilling was it for you to then be part of it

after the age of seven and then you're an adult mature funny person on that show? Well, I just think, what is it? What is it? I don't know. You have six minutes to answer that question. I really feel like that show is an institution feel like that show is an institution and it's a living breathing tree. It's a giving tree that new leaves come out of its branches and these leaves are

these people, these artists. Such good answers so far. Yeah. And so politically you speak like a poet through it. It's unreal. Have you ridden a book of poems? You have haven't you? I don't think I do write poetry. I love poetry. I read a lot of poetry growing up. And we get to bask in the shade and the light of that tree. And it's like, it formed me so much as a human being and I'm happy to say whether it's successful or not, I don't know, I'm not objective about myself, I never want to be. But when I was lucky enough to get the show that I'm doing now Which is a talk show it has my name on it actually asked for it to be named something else. They said that's not how this works. I said fine

We'll go with the household name you have a great you have a great name. Yeah, it's a cool name one syllable and then three syllables It's just it goes drew Barry Moore's's a cool name. One syllable and then three syllables. It just, it goes drew Barry Moore's just a cool name. Thank you, Dana Carvey. Dan was actually, Dan Carvey. And that ends in a smile. I think, I never thought about it. It's true. I leaned in so hard to my SNL training for this show. And a couple examples are that when we launched the pandemic in 2020,

it was a very scary time to find a voice. I felt like it was in order to be quiet and be a good listener and be a student and learn. And so that was really intimidating. But I tried to tap into bravery to be funny and have a show that really celebrated comedians and go hard on comedy. It was scary and I think it confused a lot of people. And especially in that moment, like what the hell is this pandemic? Here she comes again. Yep. And the Drew's news segment of the show from which I fought for since the pilot. I kept trying to explain

it to everybody. And obviously there is this section of a magazine called The Week that's called It Wasn't All Bad and it's just these tiny baby-sized paragraphs that are so funny and uplifting and weird. And then we can update. And then, you know, I just kept saying I just like we can update to me is is a drug. I'm on that feeder. I watch it every week. I've never I've never I don't miss it. I I I love finding out information in a funny way. We could call it satire. You could call it pop culture. You could call it comedy. But like that news desk, I had a picture of Walter Cronkite, the weekend update desk, and like the week magazine. And I think everyone was really scared

because they were like, well, that's very written. And I was like, no, I know. I'm not gonna write it. We're gonna report stories that give people hope because there is good news out there. And there are life affirming things and there are weird happenings and interesting findings and we're going to be an aggregator for that and then we can do commentary on it. I think Chelsea lately honestly it was a really interesting, you know,

she did a format where they really commented more on like gossip and pub culture, but it was so much fun and no one had done that. And she had a panel of comedians and it was delicious and nobody had done that. And you know, Drew, during during the pandemic, it's even harder because it's an uphill battle. Everything in the news is bad. It was so pessimistic and so rough that you're fighting through that clutter. And if anyone just turned to the channel and see you, they're like, give me a breather here for a second. I didn't know if I would ever be one, but I knew that I wanted, and I thought I want to be a bright spot and not a blind spot.

I want you to come here and not think that I don't understand what's happening all around us. But there is beautiful things. There are wonderful people. There is that good. And if we have to be reminded in life of firming ways that this battle is worth it, great. Then that's what I want to do. And how do I take us out while not seeming like I've lost the plot or I'm not in and aware and civic duty-minded of everything that is really happening in reality. And it was the weirdest cease-saw ever

to balance, but I would say that Saturday Night Live has been my biggest influence influence in my life. And now that I got to do a show that's not a movie or not a script or not a rom-com that probably involves a lot of people from the SNL alum, you know, you can see that love and that honoring and that adhesive sort of admiration I have for male comedians because I've spent so much time, you know, how about Sandler and Fallon and you did movies with both those guys? Like, I'm crazy. And I have to say that. I got to be in Wayne's world as Beirgin Kyrgen for a beer game. Beirgin?

Can we hear a little bit of Beir, Kyrgyn, from Wayne's World 2? True, very much. I really feel like that was the, I was worried, sweet, like anyone was gonna be mad at me, like I made a real joke out of the act, because I didn't really study enough for it night. I did the matter. I started wet for the broad comedy,

and I was like, and people with that. Oh God. I don't have people's got to stop being offended. No way. But it was I'm vegan, vegan. I know. All I do is grab a thomberg. I don't know what country she's from.

How dare you. How dare you. That's it. It's just three words. What is it like to be able to have that like Jimmy Fallon came on the show the other day and he's married to my partner. They fell in love on feet for pitch. So he's like, we're family. But we did one episode together here on this show where we were like, let's try impressions. And like I suck it impressions. Like what's it like to have that kind of access

in the snap of a finger and be able to do any voice? Like I have to study and like take it so seriously that I almost lose the freedom and the whimsy. I got to learn it so well that then I can play because I've got it so fucking down that now I feel liberated and free because I held on to it so tightly. What's it like to just be like, huh, hear it play fingertips, access? Hmm.

Well, I don't know exactly what you're saying, but I think I've got a bloody idea about something you're trying Michael can't if I didn't I You're tremendous everyone says it's excuse me many people true Barrymore you it shows terrific. It's terrific many people excuse me many people are saying I have a new rhythm for him. I'll do it for Drew heat when he's honest on the yes I have a new rhythm for him. I'll do it for Drew. When he's honest on the podium to his audience, he goes, gas prices are going up. $6, $7, $10. How high can you go?

That's the final rhythm. How high can you go? Yeah. It's all inflection. Yeah. And I just have fun with it. I'm in awe of, like, there's certain people do certain impressions.

And I just love it and I'm on awe of it. And Jimmy Fallon, his Neil Young is like insane. Oh, Neil Young is so good. Yeah, so much talent. You know, I've talked to people there like he's with Justin Timberlake and they're doing their choreographing something and they go, Jimmy, just one time, he's got it. And then he can sing, and he dances,

and he does all these voices. And he's such a great, great talk show host because he's so such a great audience. But I think we're all so influenced by that Renaissance variety human that can pull out of the ether or have a premeditated approach to it or access to both. Well, what's one that you learned? You talked about learning one and really owning it.

Yeah, do you have a good one loaded up? Do you do a Chloe Feynman? Sorry. I'm the bird. Jesus. I'm sorry. That's my favorite thing. Who is that awesome? We've done dozens of these. That's my favorite moment. Thank you, Drew. It's the most real moment.

Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry. I'm not. Now you're definitely the coolest. Oh, good. Oh, good. I am.

All right. That one's getting to my house now. It's just getting to me. Oof. Let's see. What have I eaten today? Chili dog. I can tell you.

No, just only quinoa, like a quinoa porridge. It's pretty boring. Oh shit, what was the question? What was the question about? What was the sandwich for the end? We have a lot of sandwich questions at the end. We got a sandwich question, so we like to clown on him. I mean, God, do I just, I love who's that?

Who doesn't? I have to say. You got some monster movies with him. It's, Adam's made a lot of great movies, but I think 51 dates is like one of his very, very best because it was such a complete film and it was emotional at the end. You know, I don't, didn't you find that to be an extra special one?

You did with them 50, 51 dates. You've done 31st dates. 51st dates. Or 51, originally another title, changed, it was called 51st Kisses. And I think they thought that was too curly. Yeah. In our control. In our control. Dates. Like dates is more gender neutral.

No. Of all. This actually became a really big study for me about men and women. This is where I really did take on gender. So now my partner had found that script. And it was a drama that took place in Seattle. And funny enough, she like wanted Reese Witherspoon

to do, and she was like, Oh no, full speed. You're home partner. She was like, you're busy. I'm in it. I believe in Reese Witherspoon. She was a total fan. We've all been fans of her forever.

I've known Reese since I was 14 years old. Wow. And so she had me read it at a table reading, and I was like, oh my god, this is the best script ever. And we wanted to get attached to it as producers, as flower films, and it disappeared overnight. Like it just someone gobbled it up. And then her and I tracked it for the next like, I mean years, several years. It went through different big directors and big actresses.

And we just, Nann and I were like determined to track where this script went. And all of the sudden, it finally matriculates over to none other than happy Madison. Happy Madison. And that is to anyone who doesn't know is Adam Sandler's company. He's always done it with the same people. He always dwells. He's such a loyal list. And it was everybody I knew from the wedding singer.

Oh, another great one. Yeah. I love that movie. Oh, another monster. I stalked him. I was like, I know that you and I are supposed to be Catherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy, except for probably through more of like a Marty Feldman buddy hack it. Let's.

Yeah. Buddy. I'm not fancying myself, Catherine Hepburn here. I've got purple hair and a leopard coat on and you're like sporty sport. You're sporty spice. So nothing about it physically says that this is a match, but I am convinced at them that you and I are supposed to be cinematic soulmates. And we did the wedding singer together. And then I think it was like 10 or 11 years later I found out the script went to him. I ran into my trailer.

We were filming Charlie's Angels on the Sony Lot. Happy Madison was on the Sony Lot. And instead of running over to his office, I thought, I'm going to type out a letter for him. So I got in my all of any typewriter. And I typed out the letter to him, it's hysterically sobbing. And I think the power of a letter, I've had multiple things happen that have changed my life for the better or in palpable, powerful ways

for a letter. Don't deny the power of a letter. And I said, I know we've talked about maybe coming back together, we set ourselves up real well in the first one, which kind of foxes us up for the second one, because the expectations are going to be really high for both of us. And we can't do something that is less than we have to do something equal, or maybe even more than. And I am convinced that this is the movie. And I had someone run the letter over to his office. He showed up at my trailer. Very more.

What are you trying to do? Oh, I'm about to... Oh, hey, hey. We love that. Why do you like this movie? We're trying to make it into a comedy. And I said, oh my god, really? And he goes, yeah, and I go, but okay, interesting.

Well, damn it, you cannot lose what is so fucking important about this movie, which is how do you make someone fall in love with you every day? And the poetry? Like, as a woman, I've never been more fucking moved in my life. You can't wash that away with goofiness. And he was like, yeah, but we know comedy and we know what guys want. I said, and you know what? I know what girls want.

And he goes, well, then obviously you've got to produce it with me. And I said, well, obviously we've got to produce it with me. And I said, well obviously, we've got to make this movie together. And he was like, so it's happening. And I'm like, is it happening really? Wow. What a great story. I love it. It's fun. We went to work right away. And we got flower films, which was me and Nan and happy Madison, which was him and the boys. And we sat there and we rewrote the movie based on what we thought went like what we were all women's side, yeah, women's side, boys side. And this was in the day where as a producer early on, I you know, I was told, you know, men make the decisions about where to go

to the movie that weekend. And the girlfriend will go with that. And that's a gender stereotype that I just know, oh, God, that's crazy. All right. Well, I don't know what to do with that information, but thank you for telling me that. And we tried to make it this balanced seesaw. And I, we met with directors and it was in Pete Siegel, who, you know, I always think I he got the tone. And this was gonna be such a challenge to straddle like whale sperm flying in faces one minute and trying to connect with the human heart and move people in the next scene. And I was like, this is going to take a very unique conductor to pull the saw off and make everybody happy. And I knew that Pete could do it because of our

conversations. I knew he got it. And he did another big comedy drew. What? Tommy Boy. Oh, it was your director. 10 years. Yeah, I before, which is another really, really great film. Isn't that crazy? Look at your face. Oh, my God. I didn't even realize that. That is a fucking masterpiece. Can you believe? I was saying, when you just said Pete Siegel, I go, you got the right guy. Oh, my God. Tommy boy. I mean, that's an iconic movie, David. Iconic, like history books. It's true. Well, I love Tommy Boy and I'm thinking, for you guys to balance that,

the team of you, Sandler and Pete, and then you throw Rob Schneider in a coconut bra or whatever he did. Oh my God. Oh my God. The bad. Oh, yeah, stop it. I got it.

That's a real guy. He was based on a place he stayed in. Oh my God, he's not. He's great, the bad. Oh, the bad. Oh, the top hat. I am. That's a real guy he was based on. Oh, yeah, he's not sure. He's not sure. He's great, funny characters. But it's interesting, Drew, you say that that the bones of it was a drama because that's still whatever you guys did.

It's kind of what it is. It resonated by the third actor. When he's on the boat, he sees you again. It got me for clumped. I mean, I put the ride with it. And that's hard to do in a comedy. All the day. It's very hard to do.

It was my life and very much with the show that again, I am lucky enough to make and we fight so hard for it over here. We have the best time making it, but it making a show and broadcast daytime in this time is really challenging. And we're trying to find new ways to reinvent it. But I want to be greedy in life and have all the tones. I think we have all the feels and therefore there are all the tones and there are all the life

experiences and no journey is devoid of tragedy and laughter and love and heartbreak and death and loss and ecstasy and sex and you know maybe children if you choose to go that route and you know relationship it's just it's all the things and so I don't, it's all the things. And so I don't like, it's music, you know, and it's visuals and cinema, like it's books, it's everything, it's everything. And I want so badly to put everything in a blender. But then I think the trick is, you still have to make it your own.

You have to be you. But I love all the tones. And I, 51st dates is definitely a fun tonal example that you can kind of have it all. Really well done, really well put together. But I'm aiming for that for everything in my life. Sure. Can it, can it, like maybe the North stars can be simplified down to heart and humor.

Maybe you're like Paris, the Ernie Semenway call it a movable feast. Oh, of course, that's a beautiful book. I, yeah, it's, well, that phrase is just sort of encompasses kind of what you're saying. The, the magistrate and the symphony of life and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, life. Perfectly. Well, it's coming way perfectly. It is such like I was so excited to do this with you guys. I thank you for choosing me.

Thank you for having me. We're thrilled. Thank you for everything that you've done. I just love and admire you. And I'm well, you've brought a, an energy and a, a different point of view and you're, you know, you're so far sort of an outlier,

it was really great to get you on our podcast. And here I used to speak to all this stuff. Really an astounding great. Thank you. I said, my, oh God, it's, ah,

and by the way, I will be on the teeth forever. I've laughed her. So, please God, it's, uh-huh. And by the way, I will be on the tee forever of laughter. So please keep giving it to everyone. And I'm glad you guys are doing this. Thank you for having me to the party. Hey, what's up, flies? What's up, please?

What's up, people that listen? We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions, ask us anything. Anything you want. You can email us at flyin'thewall at cadence13.com. Okay, Andrew Brewer. Now this is a great one because Andrew Brewer is, it says, hey, it's Brewer, your old sensor from the SNL days.

Now Dana, we've talked about him because we always say something nice about him. He was a cool dude and he was fun. Any of the tough job. You would write a script and then you, if it was a little risque, you'd have to run it by Andrew. And so you would load it up,

like it would be like hard triple X. So that he could negotiate. He'd say, well, I'm gonna take this out and this out. I mean, he couldn't swear, but you could negotiate. Yeah, so if you put two in there, you didn't care about, you would give them those, and you still have your real script, but he kind of would call it onto that one.

I think you knew the whole game. But it says, do you boys, this is his question. Do you boys recall any run-ins we had while we were all in the show? Of course, he has ideas, Dana, I'll ask it for him. The one that comes to mind is the taped black and white Wayne's World piece that you did with Mike, Madonna, and you were in a hotel room.

It was full SNM, I remember that. Very steamy in the day. We spent a lot of time in the editing room. Yeah. And the nude beach sketch, which I had a fire tarot on as Garth and a cod piece. I remember that one. I'm strutting around on a skutter. That was a big deal.

I was like touching herself. I don't know why we have one. Who shot that, Schiller? Probably. It was cool. It was really fun to do it. That was a good bit. Yeah.

It was really funny. But yeah, it was a little brisket in those days. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I did Hollywood Minute with him and he said, one of the ones I remember, he told you not to do, but I did it. Anyway, oh, was a joke that was something like, Pam Anderson found Tommy Lee's new penis

that's too hard to swallow. That's a good class. And he said he took it out for the West Coast feed before it got to the West Coast. Oh my God. Oh, did he? Well, the one that took like a year to get on, and I'm not sure who wrote it.

Maybe smiagle, but it was just guys at a nudist beach. But we, so when we finally did it with Tom Hanks We all just have whatever type of honor. We're behind behind a slap You see our legs and you see our torsos. Yeah, you're new to the beach and we're just commenting about each other's Hey nice penis. How's that? How's the penis going? Hey, right terrific penis and we say penis like 300 times So but the time Andrew got through that it was down to 199. Yeah, he goes, I slashed it. He slashed it.

Look, he says, I always apologize afterwards. Me, he said, Spade, I'll give you this. He always apologized afterwards. That means I just didn't do what he said. And then asked for, asked what is it called? Don't ask permission, ask. Yeah, ask for free. I don't know if he was there when we did that Italian sketch where I had Victoria on the table.

Oh, that was a great. That was, well, I wasn't supposed to do that move. You look it up every day. He was there when I said pussy on update, but he told me I have to say, who is that? And I, and I, and Dennis goes, spudley, better fucking nail this one. You're going to get shit can. So then before we go on live, and then I go, I'm gonna go out after show, get the, what was it?

And then they laugh and they go, you're fucking gong spotlight. Cause they laugh too hard, you know, they add a little cracker. Hey, where were you? You're out in here, man, you swallowed the word, you know? Don't stop, guy, you're out. Jesus, get, get, get, go to sleepies, get a new mattress. Okay.

Slanted, you like sleepies? I know. Andrew, thank you, bud. Yeah, Andrew was very cool. On a personal note, this is just really interesting because you always wonder where people end up. People behind the scenes are he worked as a sensor, but he writes to us here, which sounds so awesome. I'm currently kicking back and living in Barcelona, I'm currently kicking back and living in Barcelona, drinking cheap red wine in attending Spanish school.

Come visit your old Pally sensor, exo Andrew. So I would just say you're the champion of life. You beat life. Anyone who's drinking cheap wine in Barcelona and kicking back is the champion of life. Maybe I got an Emmy on Saturday Night Live, but you're the real Emmy winner, Andrew. Yeah, you're stuffed in my basement

doing reading questions. I think he won that round. Yeah, we're still dancing and sweating for our nickel, man. We don't have time to drink wine and go to Barcelona and pop them. We're sad. We're puffy little clowns.

We need attention. We'll never quit. Never stop. We're puffy little clowns, we need attention. We'll never quit. Never stop. We're puffy little clowns. Rattie phase puffy little clowns, I flush a lot now that I'm over 50. For no apparent reason. All right, thank you, Andrew. Thank you, Andrew.

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