Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Garrett Morris

Episode Date: January 25, 2023

Problems with the law, Richard Pryor stories, and the original SNL days with Garrett Morris. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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we're all trying to copy. For more point of view, like when he, as soon as he popped up, he came to play. He had great fun energy from the first second. Yeah, something about him. He was into it. It's like bottled up like he had the thoughts. I mean, he probably doesn't,

and done an interview for a while. And also two guys that are super interested in, and we have common ground. So he was a chatterbox. He really was there and knows all about those first five years which are seminal and SNL of course. And he gets into grievances and people maybe didn't like and drug use and anger.

And so it's very, very interesting. I love it when people don't really hold back like that. He doesn't give a shit. No, then he's far like this. I was up a join halfway through. Well, I'm not sure if it's halfway through, but make sure you're listening when it happens. You're gonna love this one.

You'll hear this. That's trying to get it going. So yeah, a lot of fun, a lot of old stories, the stuff you would expect, and it's just great to hear from him, because you don't hear from the lost, and just funny. Just funny.

I would, yeah, I enjoyed this one. Funny. I enjoy all of them. Garrett Morris. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ My name is Gipret Maris. Hello. Garrett, you, my last name is Spade.

But the barman is rooted up by having an ex-convict on your show, okay? Whoa, let's get down to it. Yeah. Did you serve time? That's not my only question. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I actually spent a year and a half at what is known as Great Meadows Correctional Facilities. I was a teacher. Oh, I was at the Tim Meadows Correctional Facility. No, Gary, you were a teacher in there? You too.

Go ahead, go ahead, Gary. Let's hear about that. Anyway, I, in like 1968, 1969, I was a school teacher. I taught at PS71 over on the East Side. And also, they had a program for teaching convicts. And I was a part of it to give us a folk flag, right? A folk flag. You guys see, it's really folks vibe.

Yeah. Everyone's saying it wrong. Anyway, and I didn't know I was driving along the drug, drug, but I just get called all the time by the cops. Okay. Wait, you're running drugs in the Volkswagen. And then you got pulled over and you're also teaching kids and running drugs. I don't get. I was teaching those minerals drama. Oh, okay.

Yes. You have quite a resume. I'm up. Oh my God. It's vast. It's like, Garrett, I have to tell Garrett something. Just so we have some common ground here. Garrett, I was in Arizona, you know, running the harsh streets of Scottsdale.

And when I was about, you know, 18, 19, I was trying to flirt with this girl leaving a SAE party at Arizona State. And I got pulled over immediately and they cuffed me and said, you have to go to jail. I don't think, Dave, I didn't tell you this. So I go to jail and I say, hey, any reason for the jail, you know? I didn't even ask, because I just felt I'm pretty guilty about a lot of things. And they said, yeah, you've gotten too many tickets, speeding tickets, and we have a warrant for your rest.

And I realized they didn't, so a couple hours in, I go, can I see those? And they showed me copies and it was my Brother signature Just saying he was me because he got pulled over so much He would have had to go to jail. So he goes no no. I don't know my license I'm David and so then he signed them all and then he still didn't pay him and then I spent the night in the clink and I had another comedian come bail me out

Chevy chase bailed you out and come bail me out. Oh wow. Chevy Chase bailed you out. Do you still speak that brother? I still speak with my brother, unfortunately, but he know I'm such a pussy. I would never really give him any trouble about it. And I didn't.

Is he out of jail? No, I was one out. He never went. I had to do the time for. I had three older brothers that would stuff pant, stolen items down my pants, cause I was nine, and they were 11, 12, 13, and they were all juvenile delinquents.

We fought, we smoked, we stole, but they would stuff them down my pants, cause I look so little and so innocent, and I'd walk out, but yeah, I stole a lot of stuff when I was nine. I'm just putting it out there right now. I would, I stole 10 yo-yo's in one day. I said three weekends in the tank myself.

Okay. See, we're all not soft. We're all from the fucking streets. Let's get that out of the way. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. I'm not innocent at all. But one time, it was because a traffic cop broke the law and used a smith gel right to go under my car.

And it was under the mat in the front seat and found a slim gym right to go under my car and under the mat in the front seat and sound in bag of marijuana which is illegal cop okay. Anyway I go to the imparming at my car and I see about four five cops standing around my car. I'm not stupid so I wait right and they wait about 30 minutes before I say okay let's get my car so I go to the car and I don't go in and they tell me they say I open his back no I say no I'm not opening it oh my god they open it right and then I was doing my karate thing that's I had a key in the back yeah and they said open that bag I said no sir they open it and they had put the grass in the back. And he said, open that bag. I said, no, sir, they opened it.

And they had put the grass in the bag. Oh my God. They all framed. And yeah, the hand company. But anyway, I go downtown and I'm being booked and sure enough, they're the cop there who was him. He says to me, see John Yernuchti. Now way back there, John Yonutsi was a very progressive Italian lawyer who was hooked up, right? He would help you out. Sure, now

I went over there. John Yonutsi figured out what it was about. He said, this is your money. I'm coming, money. John whispered something in the judges' ear. And the judge says, Yarrick Mars, I read my, he said, get out of here. I didn't want to see you in here. All right. He whispered you were framed, right? That's crazy. Well, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy,

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I know what happened. You know what happened this week. Are you in Dana and I? Oh, an item? I just like the question. Listen, Garrett, what happens on flying the walls? I Are you breaking a story? Listen Garrett what happens on flying the walls? Jays and flying the wall my canceled that's that can't yeah

I'm leading the cancel Yeah, Dana and I are old buddies and we sort of emerged in the same person over time Let's see you look at you because they mom you do look at your fingers, stay in mom. You do. Yeah. Same tribe. Irish, Irish Scottish, Norwegian. What's your tribe? German. I'm Irish. I'm Irish. I'm Irish. Well, I'm from Cambodia, Nigerian, West Africa, and by the way, and something about that comes if I have a little bit of finish in me. Oh, that's interesting. It's down deep. Yeah, I can't say.

I'm crying, I'm not sunny. I'm with my birthday. Tomorrow's your birthday. I read that your birthday's coming up. Is it the first? Is that what it is? Tomorrow, it's on February 5th. Okay, we'll delete this

because this is gonna be airing in 2027. No, we don't know. No, we'll delete this because this is gonna be airing in 2027 No, we don't we don't know All right, what's your secret I have to ask what are you what are you drinking? Is that is green tea? Okay, that's it. That's the Glucoties after we do she of lucals Count so blood sugar stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, I have a I'm Talk to that me your energy Doesn't match your birth certificate. It's huge. I mean you're just like on fire. You just energetic I can't tell you on here, man. This is recorded by cops. Okay

Yeah, they're always monitoring this Yeah, they're always monitoring this. I will say Garrett, you have sort of a very bright light and energy about you and a fun thing about you and I see why in comedy you do well because you always bring it. You're very vocal. You got a strong voice. You just have a fun vibe and I think that's- Positive. Yeah, positive. People want to work with you.

So when it comes to comedy, this is what I say. I am an actor who was in a comedy show many, many years ago, and I have been suffering ever since. I want to even suffer. Sorry, sorry. Everywhere I go, people want me to be funny. And that's my age, my father, tell you, well, she's a gentleman all the time in word you ain't funny. Yeah, feeling the black.

I got it. Yeah. Well, I think you're funny and you know, a lot of people have a funny vibe about them. Like, people say, when I date girls, I go, what do you look for? And I go, I like a girl that's funny, but I don't mean she needs to be Robin Williams. Some girls just have like a charm and fun thing about them. And that's funny to me.

And it's a lightness and fun. They don't have to be like, you know, any young man, yeah, so I like that. I'll take care of that part. Take my wife. Exactly. Yes. By the way, Dana, Garrett has worked with prior and all these huge, huge stars, which I look over it and I can't believe how cool it is.

I got to work with Richard prior, but I want to hear your story first. Don't want up on me. I have a nice Richard story. I have a great Richard prior story. Okay. I want to hear yours. It's got to be bad. When it looked rich, then I will cope with themes. That's the title of the story doesn't start like that. Right. But Richard brought his own route because he had heard that I was known. Nobody had heard about me except you go on East Coast. So Richard Rottazone, writers. Nobody knew I got this job with just fencing a 75 with a pretty good job for a black guy to get.

They're thinking I'm a lawn lawn help me. My goal's in about this. Oh, my goal's lawn Michaels lawn Michaels inward. Can I say you can say lawn like you were his main man. You can you can say anything you want as far as I can certainly. Basically thought that was going on like Richard had gotten that a lot of got some guys and knew well at the time I got to set it that life had already been in New York for like 17 years and written two plays. plays. Two plays, yeah, I read that. I've been at least 15 off-road, and Broadway shows.

And so I paid my dues, right? And they didn't know that. So when Richard came, he brought his own group, and he didn't use me. And I was really hurt by that because until this day, Richard is my favorite monologue of all time, right? And at that time, I was really very hurt because I wanted to work with him. So he did the show, didn't you think, but later on when I went to California,

he was doing a movie called Critical Condition. And I got a call from my agent saying, Richard Pride wants you to be in the show, be in the movie. And he'd not said anything. I assume that was his way of saying, Hey, you know, I'm sorry or something like. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. That was very sweet. That's sensitive. Well, you know, a lot of hosts do that.

I mean, a lot of hosts still bring in writers just because they get scared. Like maybe Paul Mooney was with Richard. I don't know. Right. He was with you as a force of nature. Paul Mooney was with Richard. I don't know. Right. He was a force of nature. Paul Mooney, I used to do standard with him in the late 70s. And I would go, why is this guy in this little club?

I mean, he was so charismatic and so good looking and so funny. It was like just everything. I love Paul Mooney. I'm sure he was behind Richard doing what he did, because he was Richard's right. But yeah, this day I see because much of what Richard did was called mooney. Right. And I think.

Okay. What do you think, you know, when you, the idea of a monologist, you know, I, I think of that more voice-oriented, but I think that with Richard from what, when I first saw him on the Ed Sullivan show, he mimed for two minutes a guy reaching under his underarm to see if he had B.O. and it was like just a silent movie. So Richard had that capacity to paint a picture instantly and he could do just a straight monologue. So I don't know.

He could tell stories like, and play all the characters. Yeah, he could tell. When he's talking about mud morn, you can tell when you talk about mud bone You wouldn't be the last one for like two or three minutes. Mm-hmm till he got to the punchline. Yeah Yeah, you were so engaged in mud bone till it's time till this day again How did you say the word I said monologues? You said say it again? Monologist anyway, I sometimes I had trouble with English. I knew I want to tell my richer prior little story. Go ahead, tell me, tell me.

Kind of. So I'm working at the holiday and there's a waiter. Yeah. And it was near the Circle Star Theater up near San Francisco. Richards had a line in there. So Richards in the restaurant. So I got to go serve Richards and I was really nervous. So I brought him a Denver Omelet. Okay. And then later on I came back and I

took the plate and he looked up at me and said, quote, whoever made that omelet can suck my dick. And I never knew if it was a positive or negative review. I never knew if it was a positive or negative review. 12 years later, I'm in a movie with Richard Pryor, what I'll tell you about. We're at lunch, and I just wanted to know what he meant that day, but I didn't want to bring it up. He probably wouldn't remember.

So I look at him, I take a bite of my cheeseburger, and I said, this cheeseburger's really, really, really good. And he goes, wow, you must want to suck somebody's dick. No, I got the head like, he got it wrong. He used to that suck dick metaphor a lot. You have to eat one of those. Okay, so it wasn't just me. Yeah.

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The punchline, the punchline, you do it. Yeah. I said, no, I can't remember. I think you said this cheeseburger can suck my dick. Did you say that? No, it was, yeah, it was a reverse that I got the information by setting a trap, you know. And I will get to it before this podcast over, but I am so high right now.

I mean, I'm just like, I'm married. What's crazy? What kind of marijuana? Marijuana. No, I was dental stuff. Oh, okay. If I go, Marijuana, my brand is my brand is sledgehammer. That's my brand of cannabis. Oh, yeah.

Your brand of cannabis is what? Sledge hammer. Sledge hammer. From the Peter Gabriel collection. Yeah, I like that name. It sounds cool. Shuffle to the face. So I will be smoking a jug, okay? Hey Garrett, I have a question for you.

You can smoke a joint right now while I ask you if you want. Yeah. Now Garrett, when you... Okay, bring me a joint. Oh boy. So when you come on SN when you... Okay, bring me a joint. Oh, boy. Uh, uh, so when you come on SNL, it must be like the dirty dozen. So you guys all get together.

You don't, you probably don't know each other, right? Right. And then you are thrown together and you're sort of like, okay, let's see what works, what doesn't work. And you are a writer. You're a writer at the beginning, right? Yes, I love, yes. Okay, so you were not, I don't think you're on camera to later. I think that was a decision that was made later, correct?

I actually was on camera the first show. Oh, shit. Let me try it. Can I? Yeah. You're in the middle of a story. I don't want to cut you off. No way. It's about you. I was a playwright, right? So I brought Lauren my play. He read it and liked it because there's a couple funny things in it. He hired me. I didn't know that just because you're out of play, that's about two hours, doesn't mean you can write 30 seconds. Yeah, a little tiny sketch, yeah, for sure.

It took me about four or five months to realize I couldn't do it, and I was really pissed off myself. To finally, I realized I had an idea, because in my play, the Black Panther group that I have is called The Young Lions, makes a joke about how when they're collecting money at fundraising, they don't have a lot of money when they have white guilty white liberals in the audience. Right, so I have to tell that idea, I'm going to call this name to Schiller.

Oh Tom Schiller. Oh, Tommy Schiller. Yeah. Right. Schiller vision. Go over to the studio and tell the two other guys whose name I will not call. That guy didn't write sit down as he is ideal. Oh. Whoa. Wait a minute. Right. When I come over, it's written down and he's not even giving me credit for even contributing, right? So anyway, what happened? I don't know. I'll tell you how I'm straight.

Anyway, anyway, what happened was it became a thing called a white guilt relief fund. Yes, I remember the sketch. Right. Yeah. And I don't know what I started off to help me because I'm 85. I may be all the same. I'm tracking the story. I'm tracking the story.

You would ask why people for donations out of guilt and make them an honorary Negro. You'd send them a plaque. Right. Right. Anyway, that was the only thing that I did that I thought was with. Wow. And this guy who at that time was a second command to end beats, right?

Now here's what happened was, I was so mad, I was so angry about that, took me a couple of weeks to stool over that, and I was gonna make a serious mistake. I was gonna come in this particular day and let him know what's for, and even if it meant physically confronting him, I was gonna come in this particular day and let him know what's for, and even if it meant civically confronting him, I was gonna do that,

although I knew he was a wrestling champ. Now, you got to know who it is. Wrestling champ from Harvard. I knew who it is. I think I know who it is. I didn't care. I said, if I get a couple of licks in, after he whips my ass,

he's still gonna remember me, right? But I get off to the elevator and somebody says, Garrett, Lauren, wants to see you in the green room. I go to the green room and show him of John and Gilda and Jane at Toe, Lauren Michaels. Look, you've got Garrett bringing in black actors. He's one himself. And he has a movie he's done. They were looking at cooling high.

Oh, cooling high. Right. So Lauren looked at cooling high. He auditioned me with Gilded. And I was totally common punch because Gilded is like Gilded was to this day. I'm real. And she, how she, I'm sure You didn't even know she's doing that. Right. And I kind of punched her out there. It was, I was a taxi driver driving from JFK with her as my passenger. And I was shooting the hell out of her all the way.

Right. And so, anyway, that's how I became a member of the group. So I was at the first time we did it from beginning, but I didn't stop it that way. No, wow. But how about you turn your anger and you had to switch gears and... I look, I look.

I'm a Buddhist, so I don't believe in this, necessarily, in a personal God, but somebody really was in the way to stop that because I was gonna make it serious serious mistakes. Listen, Frank and Frank has got some ground to. Did you have go to moves, Garrett? I mean, as a fighter, would you do the kind of, hey, let's be friends and then headbutt, would you work the body or what would be your kind of go to moves?

We're going to the social factors first because that would have brought him down. Then I want to keep him in the chin. He's going to get up mad herself and do some kind of a hole and break my neck. Okay. But okay. Look, if you're short, like I am, and don't weigh much, you've got to go for what you need. Yeah, you got to get away. You hit fast and then you move, but be scrappy.

There was no way I could have won in. There was no way I could have won that fight. Yeah. Now I know the dude and he would, he's very tough when he gets in the ground game. I would say, all right. Listen, I got mad at him too, but I didn't, I didn't think of far. Decision. Hey, before we go on, can I just do the Richard prior joke? We can cut it out.

We really bug me. All right. I'm so sorry about the dentist, but here it is. I waited. I'll set it up real fast. What'm so sorry about the dentist, but here it is. I waited. I'll set it up real fast. When Gaborage prior to Denver, I was the holiday in. I brought, got the, the, the, the, the plate up and he said, well, I've made that omelette can suck my dick.

12 years later, true story in a movie, wanted to know what he meant by suck my dick. Was it positive or negative? I'm having lunch with him. I take, I take a bite of the cheeseburger. I look at Richard and I say, well, whoever made this cheeseburger can suck my dick. And Richard said, you must love that cheeseburger. That's how you do it. Boom. Dana. I'm making Garrett happy. That's what I love. I never knew I would say suck my dick on this podcast. Now I've said it seven times. That's a mic drop. What do you have if you have a potato with a penis? Excuse me.

A patinas. Nothing. Yeah. You have a dick, Tata. Stupid. Why do you have to have the stupid party? Yeah, stupid. It's a pretty good job. No, because you didn't know what it was, stupid. Stupid. I like the stupid of the Amazon areas. That could have been a guy character. So, so you were part of that original

Alexa economy. Now, who is your hangout friend of the cast? He's just basic SNL questions. So who would you gravitate to? Was it Gilda or just everybody or did you have people you know, Jane and Chevy, but I didn't do what I should have done. Because I should have also asked to the show, asked the show at the first couple of years that was you go downtown to this bar and think of Willie. Oh, yeah, you have the party. Yeah That's equal to that golf game Yeah, people talk about where you form alliances, right? So I didn't do that

So I really had a lot of people not liking me thinking I was stuck up and all that well Yeah, why didn't you go I I want it now I want to know. Because I, even to this day, and introvert working against that, all right. I really got over it to a lot, a lot of extent. But also I had, at that time, okay, do you want to be another real truth? I'm there probably a couple of girls at home waiting for some cocaine to be taken to do what we're gonna do.

So it was either the girls in the cocaine or having Lauren tell a story about how we've met yourself. Well listen, that's a tough one Dana because his story sounds great like all that fun stuff but then you look back and you realize you've got such huge talented, cool people that you get to, because I was gonna say, Garrett, did you have an official after party? It sounds like you didn't, but we had, Dana was on, and then I was on with him for a while,

and we had, they would walk around with a ticket, a secret, you know, during the show, remember this Dana? That's a big one. And then, hand you, and you put it in your wardrobe or something, you go, here's where the party is, don't tell anyone, and it was during the live show. So you go, okay, and then hand you and you put it in your ward over something you go here's the party is don't tell anyone and it was during the live show so you go okay and then after the show you'd go straight there but they went everyone to find out about it and so we'd have a designated spot every Saturday and we go there sort of the same thing you just go there and get all fucked up with everybody but you see I'm sure that the reason why that didn't happen to me because at first

But you see it, I'm sure that the reason why that didn't happen to me because at first, I set up not going in the first place. Right. So when that started happening, people probably said, well, fuck here, you know, read it. Well, you have some responsibilities to get back. But I remember when I first got an SNL, Laura was telling me about, you know, Chevin, Danny, and everybody in character. You said, Garrett, you don't want to do that again. Chevin, Danny, you know, Eddie, and all the people in Paul, you know, you

could never get Garrett to the party unless you brought some cocaine and some hookers. Like, oh, really? Right. I'm sure that. I'm sure that. Listen. They were to say that and they were to say, it's good bait. Well, the thing about it was coming in 86, you guys were bad asses.

Like to me, that original cast you guys were, oh, little, little bit of a, okay, little power flower. Let's all you're gonna blow your nose. A little light bomb to it. Gentlemen join us. Everyone's share night live from the original cash young man name up Garrett Morris can we come here? But we thought of you guys as badass pirates you would fight there were drugs, you know, Chevy and and Bill Murray would fight and Blue she was like a badass

and then we got in and people were having like amp still lights. We'd have a buttlight at the party with me and Phil and just went around. Yeah, we didn't party as hard. So we didn't belong. with me and Phil and just went around. Yeah, we didn't party. So we didn't belong. Well, can I say to my John? Yeah. John, when he and I were both into the cocaine thing, I really talked to me unless he needed cocaine.

And I could have not found the door. Hey, buddy. Come in. And I put my, you know, 10 four down there, you know, what he would do. Do 10 of them. By the time he got to, I had nothing left. So he would just go in, could a strong his nose go down on the desk? You were about to start the poke and he would snort all of it. Oh my god.

He was a little bit. Oh God. A little bit at the end. God, nice guy. He's a very, very talented man, but boy, my, my, my, I had mineral water and Nora Dunn would come in and just chug it. Yeah. I'm kidding. No, but what was it about? Like I tried cocaine. I've talked about it.

I just, like you're saying you're, you're fighting, being introverted, like when I did cocaine Within 30 seconds. I was very sad. I just really it made me very anxious and very paranoid I only tried it twice and I one time I did some cocaine Drove to the comedy club and I couldn't go in the club because I knew they all hated me in there Back home, so how did it, but I knew people that cocaine spoke to them that eventually they had it in a little thing and they just sniff it all day. Yeah. Um, so what, what did it do to you? I mean, do you okay?

cocaine did the opposite to me? It lagging me up. Yeah. Uh, oh, cause you were an introvert. So it kind of opened you up. But then you need more cocaine, right? You're losing the high. You got to get more, right? That's the trouble. That's the trouble because the thing, that's first high.

You never get it again, Dan. Uh, you never get it again, David. Yeah. After that, you're striving to get that first high. Yeah. So even if you're on for like 35 years, which I was 35 years. Yeah. You definitely, you never get never get that again. Then you start smoking it, right? And you get that. So then smoking it, you're coming down.

So you keep coming down for you never get that first time. Okay. So doesn't make you stop chasing it. I was there. I did it for a while. Well, Linbias is one for you. Remember Linbias about. Oh, yeah. What a mess. Yeah. And he, when that happened to him, I started thinking, Gary, you're way old in this guy. You're way older. And you know, something's gone, you know,

you're lucky that that didn't happen to you. You know, Garrett, I was in it during Lin Bias. Lin Bias for the, for the listeners is a basketball player that got recruited by the Celtics, I think. Yes. And I think he died after draft night or something from doing too much cocaine. Something I think before he played.

And that was the first time I think I knew you could die from just doing straight cocaine like I had an heard that. Excuse me, excuse me. Oh, he's he dropped his joint in his house. Oh, he's actually. No, he's actually. Oh, is it okay to say that we think our friend Garrett Morris is enjoying some fine.

But it's either. It's a TV. It's a TV. Oh, so that's like, what does that do? It's even your energy out or what? It's not the level. So TV is a kind of a matter of why I've got less you still wage. Oh, it's up.

Upper, okay. It's an upro. If get hybrid, it's in between. If you get indica, you're gonna go to sleep. So, I'm working, how do you do it? Is that weird? I'm smoking all with this, you know. Well, I worked with Scatman Carruthers once in Rockham Village Center, yeah.

Hi, NZU, okay. Oh, we got it, that got it. I'm not. I'm scared, man. Angel from heaven, sweetest guy. Oh, wow. And always was, you'd go on the bathroom when you'd hear him and he'd be smoking weed, you know? And so one night it was the one-hander ever,

one-year anniversary of John Lennon's death. And my brother was visiting the show. It was a sitcom with Mickey Rooney, another crazy man. And Scatman gave us a joint. He rolled it in front of us and he had both ends were closed off. He did it without even looking, you know. And so then we tried it and it was terrible. It was really weak.

So the next break I brought back some Colombian pot for Santa Cruz. So you did purple purple. I did. And the next day in the elevator, now, Scatman was from the 30s when it was illicit. He in the elevator, people around, he says to me, quote, the music was good. Might I get a pound of your weight? After the show was over, my brother and I got a huge bag of pot,

grocery bag of pot, drove it down to Van Ayes where Scatman live. Brought him to the pot, played banjo, kept to touch with him. No, his guitar. He had a ukulele. Stu going strong. Many of them would never met like a character like Scatman. You know, you see that man there. He said he points to the janitor.

He goes, that man's an artist That man is an artist, you know, he was just taking us all these different places. What I did He was in blues brothers Dana and that's the only reason I knew who he was. He was young And I saw I think he was in blues brothers. He's saying many the moochers. Is that what I'm thinking? Did you see blues in it right? Yeah, he was in the shining. Oh, I don't know. Oh, yeah. Oh, that was him Jack Nicholson You know what I've never seen that it's scary. I love my man, but I hate Scary movies. Yeah, I hate scary. Yeah, so do I do it. I'm with you Well, you said the jack brought in a suitcase of pot in the London. Yeah, by posh. You mean okay? No, this was

And he goes and they go and Jack goes I'm not gonna sell it. It's just for my personal use and they let him through Really, yeah Because he's a monster Shoot I have another thing. Did you have any favorite sketches back then Garrett when you were there that first year? The colossal president. What was that? The colossal president. Yeah, there was this thing at the 12 mile island or something like that. Where the nuclear thing. Oh, four mile. Three mile.

Three mile. I know. a nuclear thing. Oh, four mile. Three mile. Three mile. I know. Five K. Yeah. Everybody's big. And I'm the wife of the president. And he's big. And I'm big. Another one that was my favorite not for another reason, but I really think about it as a win, which somebody didn't get the message. It was with OG Simpson. Oh, well, he was a man dingo who goes around ripping all the black slaves, female slaves. And that's again, I'm supposed to kiss with the kiss. I don't want to kiss him. They, they, they, the sketch. Simon is two kids. You know, like this, the kiss him and he backs away. As if I really want to. Yeah.

You were just acting, right? Yeah, to do. Oh, man. Another one is something that Alice Wipe out, then the, um, um, baseball, and, um, very, very good to be. Go Chico. I told him anybody good for me. Yeah, actually Chico and Squilla is really Brando Murray's original concept. He's funny. Brother came up with then Adam in large done it, right? So we would do a piece like that all the time and also I can't So out

Something that Chevy came up with for me, which is a hard hearing. Yeah, which became kind of a runner. Everyone knows that. That's great. Are you sure? Yeah. And it's why Bell is a big writer there. Yeah, he was good, right? I love him. I love so I know. Yeah, he's great. the the the the the

the the the after a year and a half. Oh, no, I thought that was really. I'm sorry. No, you're right. You're right. He was like a year, right? And then Bill Murray came in, right? Right. And Chevy, Chevy blew up. What was that like when one cast member was like,

was there any other cover of time or something to me? It just went, phew. Was there a cover of time? I didn't know that. Or news week. I mean, I know that Chevy just got so much. I know. I said, you know, it would flesh. Is that what the name of flesh? Yeah, I did a lot of movies. Yeah. I thought however, he, where did he should have with a little longer? Of course. I agree. He wishes he'd never left. He wishes he'd stayed at least five years. Right. Just like the guy who's on that cop show, who later on did CSI. David

Caruso. Yeah, he left to soon. You know, that happens. And I get I sort of get it, but Chevy was a tall, great looking guy. And he's a and it was really good in comedy. And then he was a movie star. Like, I don't even know what that would be like. But to leave when you know, it's the best show. It's a cool show. Like you guys, I know Chevy blew up, but all you guys were huge, the Beatles. I mean, everyone on the show, a rebel. I mean, there's just was nothing like it. I mean, I was in college and when it came on and I saw you guys, when I was on TV and I was like, this is pretty

fun. I was born in 1988. But when I got into settings in life, I had been in New York about 17 years, right? And you were 38. I was asked to join a set in that life. Uh, all those other excuse the motherfuckers had just got out of the high school and coverage. I was about 10 years away from a. Oh, a. A. A. R. P. Okay. You didn't you did not look older than anyone. You didn't stand out as like so.

I think was 38. 39 years old. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Now, Garrett, this, I, Dana, I just want to ask him, which I, everyone might know this, but Chevy does, there's some sketches people remember, you know, and one of them is Chevy interviewing Richard Pryor,

when he was there for a job. Oh, that, and who wrote that? Huh? Who wrote that one? I think Chevy and Richard, together. Oh, cool. Yeah, that's like, I mean, when you look back on what you guys did, that's classic. That's classic.

And then what you could, what we call it now, since what we can get away with now, you know, it's just very different at the time, even at the time it was incendiary, but now it would be like, we'll go to a test pattern. Right, we'll just get canceled. I mean, Lauren, you did it at the right time

because in about 10 years, we got into what we're into now, right? Which is where? Which is a softening. Yeah, I mean, with all the respect to the brilliant cast that Saturday it on life and I was had, you can't really write for them the way they wrote for us then. I mean, you know, and I hate that.

I hate that. It changed the real. It's a Rubik's cube. You got to really, you really have to cleverly get clever stuff in because you can't, it's almost like you're pulling from the same eight jokes that everyone's allowed to use now. Right. And that won't make people mad. But you guys, I think, the first five, I think you're on for five years, that at least the standards and practices didn't even know what to say no to. They were like, this is so ridiculous. Like they had to learn and go, well, wait, we don't like that. We're getting a lot of complaints about that. We have to stop that.

But it was like playing whack-a-mole because every week you think of a new way to offend people and that was the greatest part of it. Well, no one cared him initially and then the show became a smash at what point? I mean two years in you guys just blew up, but initially probably they didn't know and's watching. We had a lot of people who were we thought were progressive, okay? Look, in my opinion the the truth, regressant, without any sign of racism whatsoever. But I thought he's like me. I thought for instance, that Michael O'Donohue

because of his past would be the same way. Michael O'Donohue with all due respect was an absolute racist mother-father. You got to add mother-fucker to that. Because it's just an old-dewer spot. Very first show, there was a skip that was going to have a black doctor, right? Have a doctor, what a black doctor. And I wasn't in it at all.

So I said, hey, Michael, when we had the doctor, we'd like, do you know what it tells me? Well, Gary, the audience might be thrown by a black doctor. Now this is 1975, right? Not from New Orleans. But from the time I was 12 years old and I was surrounded, not only by hordes of black medical doctors, but black PhDs as well. And I'm wondering how a guy who name and

Sofoshia with National Land who doesn't fucking know this did he not see guess who's Coming to dinner with Cindy Poitier I saw in the theater at age eight and I And it infected me the rest of my life and I got to do a lot of benefits of Cedar Sydney Poitier And he's another real gentleman. Sorry, I'm still a little hot slurring. Well, that's tough because yeah, you're light in the show. You say, hey, can I get thrown into a sketch? And he said, no, this one's not right for you.

And it's like, oh boy, you can be a black doctor. What are you talking about? You know, we're talking about Cedney. I remember the almost, you walk by a prison, you walk by and you, I'm on 72nd Street and he's coming towards me for like a half a block away. I say, that's fucking significant. Yeah. Right. Oh, yeah.

This past and like to this day, I remember that day. You know, oh, yeah. He was so eloquent. I remember I did a bunch of benefits for Cedar Sinai and he was always there. And then one time I got off stage and I was walking to the audience, he stopped me and I was able to do my, yeah, he gave me some praise

and I did my, I said, they go to me, Mr. Tibbs from the, and he laughed so hard. That was a Rod Stiger I think. But yeah, for me, there were so many brilliant movies in the 60s and 70s. And just a lot of my heroes were black. I mean, just Jimmy Hendrix, my brother, in 1966, he came home. He was 13.

He said, I just saw the best guitar player in the world. I said, what's his name? He goes, Jimmy Hendrix. But we weren't, we were kind of progressive in our own way back then because we just wanted to see Jimmy, we didn't think, you know, and I went to the first integrated, well, a very, very well integrated high school with Bussing in 1969, so. Oh my Jimmy Hendrix, you know what he did when he came back from England where he'd

always become famous. He got on the corner of 125 street and 70, 70, 70 and played the guitar for like 18 hours or so. Mm-hmm. Yes, it's just people do something. Oh my god. He was really something else. He was. No, like Neil Young has said about no one's ever played the guitar like Jimmy Hendrix. No, did Jimmy Hendrix was never, he did he die before SNL? He's somebody they would have on. He was one of those caught up in, you know. Yeah, he died. He was like, couldn't have shot, right? 27.

27. 27. You know, Janice Joplin, around the same age. Yeah, but true. Oh, man. Curricle baby. I hate him when that happened to Janice. I love to ask, man.

I mean, you know what I mean. Yeah. Well, again, you know, there are, there's just certain talents, like Janice is singing and a word I use a lot, supernatural. What's that time? I mean, that's screaming the adacity of it was just crazy. Without respect, respect the human, I have a wife in them. Okay.

Sure. I'm not a shit damn. Yeah, she has such a talent and And then it almost like they burn out quickly because it's so much talent. And so that voice is so cool and everything. And you hope it's around forever. But yeah. Yeah. Well, it's also just the accidental plane with fire, you know, Jim Morrison. Once you start playing with opioids and mixing that stuff in, you know, of course, you know, John Blue she, you know, it's, it wasn't intentional, but it you playing with fire. It's just, it's just, yeah.

Matt, that's another thing that started me to straighten up. Yeah. John's death was John during when you were on SNL. When was it? I can't, he was 32. 83, I think, right? And after SNL, when he died, yeah. And I think it's not a lie.

And I didn't really hang. Boy, when they need cocaine to do that. Yeah, right. Yeah. Sure. So what, how did that affect you? That gets you off cocaine? Or you just started to slow down or what happened?

I'm gonna slow down. And by the time I came here, here, I was, it's not something you could just stop By 2005 I went to a Echo of synonymous yeah, and they do Something that accessories you they will call your ass, okay, and it will sponsor you over and over and so To that I really I succeeded and get rid of it. Okay. Much different with cigarettes, which I still am struggling with. But I'm glad that it's 2005. It's

been not stuck. 2002, 22. Yeah. Here we Yeah. Well, the body has a remarkable healing apparatus once you give it a break, you know. So you're, did you give a lot of people who lived a long time in your family tree? Now that my grandfather lived in 1992. Okay. So you got some longevity. Yeah.

My grandmother got, I'm sure got cancer when she was in the 50s. So there's my mother lived in 80, but she didn't take care of herself. Okay. So there's a cut, you know, either I'm going to look at my grandfather and, you know, day for a minute. How do you deal with stress? Are you really Buddhist? Are you really Zen?

Are you relaxed in your brain all the time? I'm going to respect. I know you guys here Buddhism, I mean you think Zen, Zen, not it's not it's only one part of Buddhist. There are 300,000 over 200,000 Buddhist worldwide and kill them are like me. They chant, which is not the same thing as the Zen Buddhist. Okay. Right. So you chant, they meditate. which is not the same thing as the Zen Buddhist, okay? Right, so you chant. They meditate. Don't they regard to, don't they regard to,

don't they regard to, don't they regard to. No, it's Namiya Rengue. Hari God too. Oh, not to fuck it up. You know, which I'm here. Namiya Rengue, you know, Namiya Rengue, you know, which being called, what's it being?

It's getting to the mystic law of cause and effect which means you don't believe in the personal God but you do regard the law as being in the place that most other religious place God it is the most sacred right why I did transcendental meditation and my mantra is dumb now I'm a I'm I'm a team practitioner too. Yeah, my my mantra dominantly, which I found out later was Native American for a job your shorts. We don't have much time. You telling people your mantra? No, I was kidding. I'm just joking. I would never tell you my mantra. I like it. I don't tell them. My mantra is Garrett. Garrett. Listen. Garrett, after SNL, first of all, there's too many cool people there.

You had Danny Acroid who we did. I did two movies with three, actually. Great guy. Good boy. Yes. He was beautiful, dude. I seem like, did you hang with anyone after the following year's mess. You stay in touch or you just see him when you see him kind of thing?

So I saw him when I saw him. When James was out here doing two rock-reased dog on the phone. Oh, that's right. Jane was on a second rock from the son, third rock from the son, right? And now I have a quality release you will Lorraine. Yeah. Lorraine. Yeah. Hannah was very, very talented. Yeah. Oh, hax yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so a very fine comedian she did my show Oh, last year How did you get Garrett you who was your head writer when you started was it and beats and beats was yes She was see they had a girl head writer back then which is probably yeah, right

That was a new more rare than a black doctor And the other guy we talked we mentioned that was the assistant had right I know you're talking about and I look I was very sorry about what happened to him because I think that I'm not gonna call their names they backed him up when that thing happened their names. They backed him up when that thing happened. They should have backed him up and not let him go the way he did. I was a lot of politics. I know you're talking about a lot of politics. What you did was he didn't have to leave because of that. Yeah, I tend to agree. It was a purge that had to happen, but it some people got swept up into it that maybe in a more reasonable time would have yeah yeah he's done it been treated like that I don't agree yeah she's I wonder if I'm canceled

right now do you think we could be canceled because you agreed we said suck my dick I said Cindy for the A black man first like says with all due respect to us and then he says with all to respect motherfucker other people so it really did I call a wife motherfucker So I'm just happy the rest of the day like my day is a home run now Because we love it. Do you have any kids? I've got two sons and there is showbiz There's no mother every day Oh my fucker

Yeah I guess so I mean he got you on a technicality day. Motherfucker is just a great word because of the rhythm of it. Motherfucker. You know, it's a great word. I mean, gosh, darn it. That's not good. In my community, gentlemen, we, you say it better. He's a bad motherfucker. Meaning you, Dana, meaning the great guy. Yeah. I like that. I say of you, Dana, meaning the great guy. Yeah. I like that. I say of like, oh, Rachel Madder.

I say she's a bad bitch, right? Rather than a motherfucker. Right. She's a bad bitch. You did. Although I don't look at the news anymore because it depresses me. No, no, no, no. It's it's to, but it's designed to get us all angry.

When I was looking at Rachel all the time and we'll say, oh, lady, um, no, it's designed to get us all angry. When I was looking to reach it all the time. And we'll see how the lady, Joy, Reed, you know, Roy Reed, you know, I remember, I remember, you know, Brian, yeah, so, I mean, I'm with my thing until the news just started bringing me down Here before I before I We let you go. Yeah, do you still saying Dana said you're a good singer. I used to sing high seas now. I sing low seas. I sing the blues now. I don't sing

You know, oh, you're doing the Albert King or who you singing? Money waters and stuff like. Money waters. Yes. My favorite blues thing is money waters. Oh, I loved Albert King blues power. I would get to the great. Albert King was great. That baby, that baby and his baby had a baby bed all fussing up.

He's got the blues. He's got the good old fashioned country blues. Remember I've Albert, was an e-magic, and of course, MoneyWalters, I mean, you know, he's got another guy. Oh, the one, yes. Ha, ha, ha. Lay it honest, don't be shy.

What are you saying with the Harry Belly, a Harry Bell of Fonte, senior? I was with him for like nine years as a, my first job in the business., but there's a singer arranger With yeah, that's so amazing the bell font is singers The bell of hot day singers. Yeah, as a 12-member group that he managed right he started in periodically But these used to sing without him so we two who saying that thing you put the lime in the coconut you put it like right that was Harry Okay, that was Harry Bellifani

Yeah, and then it became a commercial to yeah What about seven up is the other blue's now you can you can get laid with that 85 that's all day 85 still alive eighty six you got cool voice 87 you're in heaven 88 don't be late 89 won't you be mine 90 Was this your SNL audition? know. I've had dinner with him. Well, Garrett, thank you for coming out with us. Yeah, there's been a delight. You're so much fun.

I feel happy. You're hanging out with you for this hour. Thank you so much, fellas. We even think about this old guy. Yeah, you're good dude. And it's, you know, we all got a job because of you and the squad up there. Oh my god. I'm going to learn everyone. I just want to say a hundred episodes on Jamie Foxx. We're on the Martin show. I mean, you're talented, man. Okay. Thank you, bud.

Extremely talented and that you got your fucking job. We do the best we can. It's horrific. It's tremendous. Excuse me. Many people is who's better than Gary Moss. Nobody listen, many people are saying never better. Nobody's ever done it. Like him. Come on. Let's get real folks. Oh, no. Come back in around. Gary Morris. Here's the deal. Come on. We could do better. We will do better. You got Trump in mind at the end. I love you. I love you. Thank you, brother. Can we hang out sometime? Can you forget? I have. You got my number. I care. Miss you, but no, let me thank you guys for this. I appreciate it. Well, I just really enjoyed this. I know I'm a little I'm a little fuzzy and my words aren't coming out as well as they normally do, but because of the dental work, but I got the prior joke out, I completed it,

and that made my day. It was a three-parter. Yeah. Now I'm gonna pack myself and I, get a B12 shot, and just get a cracker-core slight. We don't want to end the show with the words, suck my dick, okay? No, no, why would be the substitution?

Instead of saying, shun my dick, you kind of say, how about a hand job, dear? I guess that's a little more benign, maybe not show dramatic. Oh, I got one. Good night, motherfuckas. Hey. Hey, what's up, flies? What's up, please? What's up, people that listen?

We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions ask us anything. Anything you want. You can email us at flyinthewall at cadence13.com Folks, we got another AMA to cap it off. This is a ask us anything. Question is, do you have a favorite SNL monologue? anything. Question is, do you have a favorite SNL monologue? One of my all-time favorites is the one where Susan Lutchi and the Emmy's from 1990. Hey, everyone, Emmy fight. Neil and Waring and Emmy run his next spade using Emmy D. Cornelacabra. I was in it. Yeah, that was funny. Right, so thank you for the pod. Okay, well, Dana, do you remember this one? Cause I was just a newbie on that one. I know, I wasn't in that one. I don't know what's going on.

That was funny though. I was dating and not in something. I was probably changing into a Du Bois senior. I had the bald caps going. And you need that 12 minute chunk. Yeah, I would just put the bald cap on early and just drop all the wigs on top. Anyway, one that stood out for me during my time.

I don't know if you're there for us, one Steve Martin. I was gonna say fucking Steve Martin. Steve Martin sings a song and it becomes a Broadway musical. We run and dance the cast, always Steve, the whole premise, he's done it so much at this point, hosting.

He's not gonna phone it. I'm not gonna phone it, in tonight, not gonna, and that one really stood out for me. One of the biggest laughs is yeah, he runs around and he goes, come on guys. He picks up cast members along the way. Yeah, I'm when he goes like the pipe. Sing it Chris and Farley goes, I'm not going to get a super drunk tonight.

Yeah. I won't have a drink till update is through. That's a promise to you. The view. Yeah. Till updates really goes. Good. Good. Good. Yeah. To the updates, really goes, good memory. Good memory. Good.

Yeah, but he let everyone sing and, uh, wow, I just thought of that same time. I think it was. I think it was. Robert Smigles, but probably a lot of people joined in on it, but that stood out. Always comedians have great ones. Uh, as we mentioned, Kim Kardashian had a great one. She was on, not a comedian, but that's sometimes fun when people come out of nowhere and knock one out,

low expectations, and then she delivered. And so there's over the years, got a camping one. I remember Emmy was funny. That was Susan Luzzy, that was a great one. And I like when they bring the cast into my log. Sometimes that's a trick, though, if they don't really know what to do, they stack them off their two nervous day, they want cast.

Yeah, there's a lot of Q&A from the audience. That's a great device. Oh, what about Britney Spears and her boobs are moving around. You know what I'm saying? She said a lot of people think I fake boobs, but the truth is, and they start going like this in her shirt,

they're like some sort of trick. Yeah, yeah. That got a big laugh. Oh, though. So many days, my friend. So thank you for that question, but there's just too many to pick from, I think. Yeah. We mentioned.

You picked a good one, though. Susan Lucci. We came back with Steve Martin. Whoops. When Steve's on, we got asked him. Sounds like halls was better. All right, thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you David Rivera. Have a good day. And now I hate to say it but bye.

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