Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Jason Sudeikis

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

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Hi, this is Danny. I knew we were in a two-shot, I just want to talk directly to the fans. I mean, lean out. No, you're part of the deal. I mean, you're definitely my partner. I just want to thank you all for listening to this thing because I got a fuck ton of bills in my life. And I got what you call a big nut and I'm not talking effectively. You know what?

So I thank you for listening. And I know you're usually driving and doing something else, but I don't, I have no anger about that. I'm just glad you're listening and I hope it're usually driving and doing something else, but I don't worry. I have no anger about that. I'm just glad you're listening and I hope it brings you a smile, David. Would you like to address your fans? Yeah, all in all. I hope it brings more than that.

I'd hate to go. I listened to that hour and a half shit and I got one smile out of it. What are you reading the comments? You never can read the comments. I do. I wish I could be like, John Marant, not care. I care about the comments. I know, well don't start waving anything around in my face.

I'm like, I'm waving a gun during these. I'm gonna take a gal right now that if you wave a weapon, I will not take a video with my phone and post it. Cause you're my friend that's trying to help me in my life. You wanna steer me the right way. But we would have Steven Smith talking about as if I were a gun.

David Spate is a, he was a good guy. I used to like him. The gun. Carvee should have wrestled it away. You cannot have this person do five rebounds in a half and expect to go to the championships. I think the guy I've been watching him, Stephen if you're watching gotta come on your show, I kind of think that is a giant brain.

Yeah, he's does some long rifts and I don't know. We know someone here in our studio knows him. But if that stuff is X step brainious after the half and what he's coming up with, I'm a fan. David. Jason Sudakis. Jason Sudakis. Is a guy who has trouble spelling his last name. I'm calling you. David's that way. He's all time great cast member. And then of course, we did do a deep dive into Ted Lasso, which is such a lightening and a bottle of incredible show. David, we did a deep dive. I Lasso, which is such a lightning and a bottle of incredible show, David.

We did a deep dive. I watched the pilot and I watched every episode and he watched every episode. So we met somewhere in the middle. I was like, so far it seems like soccer is involved. This is me, the texting David. Yeah, it's, it's in England. No, he's great. I've heard about Ted Lasso for the last three years. He's always

good on the show. He was super cool. We did it in here, in my pad. We had a blast. He's just a fun dude. He likes to talk to Dodge. We just blabbed about everything. He was a crack up, man. I had a good time that day. I would say that he, you know, that was the first time like doing this podcast. You get to like sit with someone directly for well over an hour and get to know him. So I really got to know him. Yeah. And he is, he's a wise, he's an old soul.

Sorry, I hate that cliche. But he, he says some really wise stuff and philosophical stuff, maybe coming from Kansas, his own Jason, incredibly humble, regular guy. And I was fascinated how Ted Lasso came about and the origins of it and where it went and how much of his personality and the genius of a lot of moments in that show that you just don't see coming. Yeah. So hard to put in that show that you just don't see coming. Yeah. So hard to put together a show that works.

So hard to get it to be universal hit like that. And they did, they put the secret sauce together. It's very, that's a huge accomplishment. We talked about everything you could think of Dana. You know what you said once, you said something nice. You said, you have an old face. And I said, old face no, it was an old voice. No, I said you had a, he has a very cool voice.

I've told you you had a cool voice, but you never take me seriously, I get text later. Did you mean that about the cool voice? I mean, I sound on the bottom. I said, I used to do this in my pen. Can you see that? In the shitty camera. Look at this.

Then I go like this. Be you take that teacher. You know what I like? I like, David. I like when older guys go out with a young woman and they say it's not because she's young, she's an old soul. So she's an old soul who happens to have a great ass.

That's right ass. I don't care, I don't care about the fact that she's 19 with an incredible ass. I'm attracted to her. She's brought out of high school. It has nothing to do with that. I'm 91. Hello. I'm Or to her. She's brought out of high school. It has nothing to do with that. I'm 91. Hello. I'm horn dog Billy.

Jason, we're gonna get letters. No, we're fine. We're getting letters. Jason Suday. Okay. We're gonna enjoy this. It's a very mellow conversation, very informative and real just about how people like Jason get to be Jason and and real just about how people like Jason get to be Jason and just a really interesting journey. I would listen if I were you, don't pause it. I'm talking to the people in the car. They're like, I just gotta go into work now. You know, it's good to know where to work.

Get more, you know, because no one works. You ever heard of this? Yeah. Fun employment. Instead of unemployed, put it on it. Fun employment. It's like you kind of quit your job and you just traveled the world.

You ever thought of doing that? I'm soft quitting this podcast. I'd stop talking. That's a good one, soft quitting. Should we end on that? I like a soft opening of a restaurant. When I pull my weener out there, this is a soft opening.

Weener, where are you from 1968? Weener, you call it a cleaner. I don't like when girls use medical terms. Jason Sudeikas. from 1968, Peter, you call it a demeanor. I don't like when girls use medical terms. Jason Sudeikas. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Do you know what David has? Adult candy bars all throughout the house

and one in the elevator. Sorry, inside baseball. I got stuck in the elevator once. Well, he's an elevator. Well, he has an elevator. Yeah, there's an elevator. It's time you've learned. He only gets paid scale plus a million. So you did Joe Biden the early days.

Him 2012. Yeah, where he's kind of a whannowate. I mean, I did it in the first time I did the first time I did him was like it wouldn't some Christmas episode of maybe 2007 or something like that like I forgot and then when Obama picked by this is running mate Fred armistone text me saying congrats. I was like well for what because Biden I go I played Biden used yeah, you I played sponge, he goes, yeah, I played SpongeBob SquarePants. Like, it was like, yeah, it was a Halloween sketch and I was like, oh, right.

I was like, I guess that means all you had? You already had it locked in. I don't know. I mean, unintentionally, yeah. I mean, and then I got to do it and be, you know, who's the magician that went on after the Beatles on Ed Sullivan, basically, I lived that existence playing Joe Biden

in the vice presidential debates against Tina Fey's Sarah Payton. Oh, exactly. They look alike. They sound alike. You can blow your mind. Yeah. And just everybody was clamoring for it.

And she crushed it. And yeah, I had fun runs written by Jim Downey and Seth. But everybody was like, yeah, yeah. Okay. There you go. Here we go. He was full, some glass Corvette guy. He was at Alpha at that, okay, there you go, here we go. Yeah, you talk to the rest of you. He was full, some glass Corvette guy. He was at Alpha at that point compared to, you know,

he's older now. You know, yeah, so it was a different take on it. Eternal, very, very grand paternal. It's all I got. That's all I got. It's kind of close. Yeah. I don't know.

Good Lord. So we have Kansas is on. Yeah, Kansas is on. Now you play basketball. I just, the only thing I ask, I'll ask this first. Can you touch the rim? I could. Could you dunk a baseball?

I could dunk a baseball, yes. I'd probably dunked a basketball 10 times in my life. Shut up! Never going a game with a referee. I was just talking about this yesterday. Any witnesses? The basketball going on right now. You know, a lot of basketballs. I'm just just. Yes, so there's six on everyone's mind. Two or six one. Six one. What's your wingspan? Oh, probably six one. Probably nothing spectacular. So yeah, pretty good vertical to get a basketball. It was also adrenaline. I also had a lot of friends that could jump and so it's a little bit of peer

pressure that way too. Or it's just come on. Just shut up and do it. But I do remember that if I dunk 10 times, six of them, uh, six of those times were one day after playing basketball like in between junior senior year, you know, I know no sophomore junior year like during summer. That's unreal, dude. My dad put up a nine foot hoop and fucked all the kids because we were awesome on the nine foot feeling and then we could high school. What the hell? Airball after airball. Yeah, exactly. I can get the net. I can dunk on the net. because we were awesome on such a great feeling. And then we could have high school. What the hell did they do? They were like, they were like, they were like, they were like, they were like, they were like,

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You know, when they do it now, it's, they go past half court. It's like one step two, step shoot it, you know. Jesus, how do you guard? You don't even know what's happening. He changed everything. It's just one, two, boom. And then they make it 90% of the time. Yeah.

I'm Caitlin Clark on the women's college, you know, circuit two. I mean, it's all over the world. It's all over the world. Yeah, to shoot. You play Sandler? Adam and I have played, I think we may have played once or twice, but not enough to have a scouting report. I hear he's good.

I know. He gets into it. He's competitive too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I probably don't know. It's all funny. I'm still a game star.

Exactly. Yeah. Like get open. I was on. You don't talk to me like that. Jesus. Happy Gilmore. I'm not.

I'm stuck to call sheet. I go, all right. You were not triggering financing out here, but we're all the same. No, I, but, um, but no, he, he plays, he's played in the game with, uh, my buddy Sam Jones that I've played in a few times and buddy Brad Morris. But yeah, I'm played, uh, maybe once or twice. I mean, the probably the best, the most fun I'd have playing in the was, was hearing the stories of Gary Shanling's game, then getting invited to go play in that with Sarah Silver. Oh, you did. Yeah.

And before he passed and then and then a huge thing was when Gary was like, Hey, you can come without Sarah if you want. Oh, that's a big deal. Lovely, like a lovely sort of. He's got to read about that game forever. Oh, yeah. You know, whatever. Yeah, absolutely.

And Sarah, you, I mean, who were the regulars? Oh my gosh. I mean, McKay was there. Jimmy Miller. Jimmy was there a couple times. I used to go there earlier, not early early days, but I, there was a run there when I went and I was no good and I sort of got pushed in the background. Yeah.

Yeah. Just not the emails. You can do a mugsy boogs out there. I was like, distraction, whatever they call it. Yeah, I just want you on the out there like, I was like, you know, you know, you're every guy. We need five. We need five.

To keep it even, you out there and run around circles. Or a split web, I would have been a split web. No, I got out of that quickly. I was, yeah, I was debaskable in high school. And our center was literally five three. Yeah. Control the paint. That was when they had debasked all. 5'2", 91 pounds, as a freshman. What about you?

Were you always a bearded stud in high school? No, no, no, it was a bearded of acne, like any of us, right? I don't think I grow a beard until about an hour before I got here. How'd you get rid of the acne? Because I had it bad too, and I bought all the products. And then once I said, fuck it, I'm not gonna put anything on it, and then within two months it won away. Isn't that something?

Did you do that? It was a little bit like it just kind of went away. Like a lot of things that have affect me or have fallen on me as almost maybe psychosomatic things, whether it be patches and growing beard or back pain, like so much of it, I think is yeah, where you're at mentally, and there's so much attention put patches and growing beard or back pain. Like so much of it I think is, is yeah, where you're at mentally

and there's so much attention put on that. And my mom, plus her heart was always really more worried about it than I was. Like, because I'm not looking at my face all day. We're looking at our eyes and so she was really adamant. Yes, she had me going through all this stuff, going to like a dermatologist and I think it did exacerbate the problem.

I put stridex, medicated pads. And every time I realized later, it took me about a year to go, it's just making it worse. Yeah, just worse. Which was kind of, it was gonna drive you out and I didn't know it as again. And then it,

the oil comes gushing in and then you know what's gonna happen. Exactly. But I have a handful of, you know, playing, you know, pseudo dermatologist, you know, scars from trying to like get rid of things, you know, preemptive levers is just taking learn the patience of just letting it be just how the mind controls. I just, I just not get laid this year and you just ride it out. Let's say, were you in high school, were you like captain of the team or you were kind of a funny guy with your friends. I was what was your lane funny guy like I was the point guard. So like kind of a de facto, you know, Captain in the sense that you're coming down varsity starter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Turn junior year. Yeah. As a junior. Yeah. Okay. You were good. I was decent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For for my for my area and my like my skill level. Yeah. I was I wasn't too shabby, but yeah, I mean, I definitely, I mean, a lot of what we do on Ted Lasso is my experience of what it's like in locker rooms. People joking around, we were a very fun group of guys. I have very thoughtful friends, you guys,

and I'm still very close with and friends with to this day. And we just, yeah, we joked around a lot, much of the sugar in, I think of our, you know, our, you know, very athletic minded Alpha head coach who was lovely and playful as well, but more playful when we were listening and winning. We had the same, same situation with a cross country track, distance running coach, blood gutting hair, real, ex-marine, all that stuff. So were you kind of the funny guy in the team or because I was with a lot of guys who had great sense of humor and I think I kind of developed as a comedian in high school sports running. Oh, 100% because they would laugh

at everything I said. Yeah, and also with the like, I always grew up around and gravitated towards funny people. Like, I had funny friends and they were funny in different ways. So, like, my friend Chris was more of like, oh, what if this happened? And then another guy's like more like word play. And then another guy's like a guy who do character voices with. And another guy's the guy that we would do fake radio shows

with or then when I got a video camera in sixth grade, the guy that you'd make fake talk shows with. And doing both of your guys stuff, being like an SNL fanatic at that point, especially before you start going out on weekends, Saturdays and having a friend that can drive. We did that all the time with all these different groups. And then my sisters did sing an indansinant like a, please call Miller Marley.

And so I was around all those type of like more overt, their folks, the people that wanted to do musicals that did summer stock in Kansas City, or Park. In Kansas, there's never a big comedy scene, right? It was a theater improv situation. It had, theater, yeah, good. I mean, they had stand-up clubs, and I just knew me all did like Stanford's and songs.

They all did, yeah. And again, coming through there, I know I saw Dennis Miller do, you know, stand up my, right before my senior year, my dad went you know, stand up my, my, right before my senior year, my dad went to go see him in KC, in prison, Stanford and sons, yeah. And, but, yeah, I mean, my focus was mostly mom taking us to go see touring companies, go and see my sisters do stuff during the summer, and then there was a place called Comedy

Sports that was like sketch, or mostly, no, Paul Improv, kind of like who's lying to that anyway, short form. That's hard. Can I, who's lines it anyway? Short form dance. That's hard. I just love that. And it is hard. And if that's what you'd learn doing, just constantly jumping through hoops,

people setting you up to fail, like the audience ends all baked into it. You develop a little bit of a thick face. I'm probably so fucking hard and stand up as hard, but at least you can get a head start, and think about it. Yeah, because now when you're in high school, there's a point where you go,

I actually think I could maybe do this as a living. I didn't really think that when I was doing standup, I just did it one day and I said, I'll never do this for a living, I just wanna try it. Yeah, no, for, it wasn't until moving to Chicago, I think I wanna do this for a living.

At that point, I moved after I stopped playing basketball in college and stuff, like I was just like, okay, quit doing that. Start doing comedy sports, working at Girls You Store, living in my parents' basement. And then I was like, I'm gonna do Shuraga. I'm gonna do Shuraga.

You know, my folks were from there. My grandmother lived up there. I lived with her, my uncle George. And Anne Bernadette had done second city in George Wynn. I think I assume that you're doing the same thing. You had to place the land for a drink. Yeah, for a watch George Wynn. George Wynn is your son. George Wynn creek for a while, George Wan is your son.

George Wan is your son. It's my son, not his son. He's weird, it's a genetic thing. No, it's a genetic thing. I'll talk you through it, it makes sense. Front and I've had to explain things visually. But yeah, that was when I made the decision. I want to try this.

All the rest of it was just about having fun. It was just wanting to do something that I saw and having the opportunity to do it. I assume it's the same. Did you have a stage fright? Or are you pretty comfortable with the best? No, stage fright. No.

I'd get antsy, I'd get excited. You know what I try to explain what anxious is to like my kids, I say it's excited, plus nervous. So I was definitely anxious, but I think there is something about having an athlete's mentality towards it all. And it's something I still say today and something that again, we've used on the Ted Lasso show, there's no defense in the arts. There's nobody trying to actively for the most part when you're doing it. It's just you're doing it. Yeah, just yeah, you're, yeah, you're apiornapathy, your cynicism, your ego, you know

baggage, but I tell my sense there's no getting your feelings hurt and show business. Yeah, it's like no crying and baseball Yeah, yeah, it's a monolith. It does it's not against you. It's not stacked against you. It's just a thing Yeah, and there's how are you gonna respond to this made to make you feel bad? I just want to insert this because I always been Notice your voice and did you get some voice over offers early in in Chicago with your voice never never never never never never again very good he just noticed in a sexy a minute ago. I hate look at that. I It is very sexy but not a Maybe deeper right now just because of you know Ford of, you know, this is like a good voice. Ford most creamie sure for like, yeah, like our net. Yeah, yeah.

GMC. That's I could never. Yeah, I did, I did a voice over thing for Applebee's like a few years. So, which was, which was nice because that, you know, they're headquartered back home and stuff and how did that sound? Did you put on a voice voice? Really? It's just like conversation. See tomorrow. Applebee's. Like, you know, they have a lot ofes. Like you know, you feel like a pie. Yeah.

Oh, this spaghetti you can eat. Hard to believe in onions. And come to Apple. Psycho bread sticks. Fish sticks. But I do. I remember, you know, there's a big teacher, a big influence in my life.

She comes up all the time, but this woman, Sally Shipley, who taught speech and debate, had one of her students, she also taught radio TV, and one of her students was like, oh, we should do this thing. You know, you should get to do the voiceover. Jason Sadekis, he has a nice voice. I was like, I do. I didn't know anything about that. I don't have a voice. I don't have a face either. I say this on the floor. I'm not an invisible person, but you can put stuff on me or give me a voice. The silver screen you're just you are I'm just invisible

I'm a totally neutral person whoever you want to be. Yeah, you can put a nose on me So give me an accent. It's a blessing in a curse You know I'm so tempted to talk about Ted Lasso Do not they told us do not figure when they said 45 minutes in He doesn't want to promote Ted Lasso. It says right. He only wants to go last working at Banana Republic. Great. Perfect. And we want to spend an hour on how he's an insane pinball person.

I have you been to the pinball place in Vegas. The pinball museum off the strip. Walking monster right by your foot. It's unreal. Yeah, really is. They write pinball big enough. You know where it is. And I went in.

Yeah. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, free game. Goes like this free game. It goes like this, free game. But I did it on into there and got all the effects. It's good for me, kids. I'm kidding.

So no, I went in there, I felt weird, because I'm like, it's mostly adults, I go, who's weirder, you know, I'm in here, but I played Galaxia, yeah, asteroids, boom, boom, boom, boom, asteroids. You don't find them everywhere, Dana. No.

You don't go to Psyche. No, I did, guys, I'm from the 50s. I don't find them everywhere, Dana. Mm-hmm. You don't go to the pool. No, I did. Guys, I'm from the 50s. I mean, we had a pinball machine at the lake. It was like the first game. Back then I was gambling. It was bad news.

Don't put your quarters in there. Well, Guppie would, the guy who ran the, where's Guppie? Merkantile and, wrote, Lake Ronan Montana. He was, he was the king of that pinball machine.

I'm the deck and there were goats and we'd challenge him. I can't love pinball. Anyway, he was, he was the king of that pinball machine out of the deck and there were goats and we'd challenge him and Love anyway. I felt like well after the fact throughout it's always been there because growing up You know born in the 75 so our caves were big as a kid and dad taking us to go those things and I would play You know like you know dig dug or any of the other games tron whatnot And then he'd always go over these pinball machines and that was the first first time I saw it do like, you know, cradle the ball where it wasn't just luck. It wasn't just slapping it up there on the time. Oh, then kind of got away from it. Then the felt one of the fellows that owns and created this theater called Boom Chicago

and Amsterdam is a big pinball, you know, fanatic and knows a lot about the history and just how the games are made and the designers. And he had one and kind of taught me and Brendan Hunt who plays Coach Beard on, that last so taught us kind of the more nuanced version of that. And then 10 years went by and then I bumped into one again. And whenever, especially when you're with someone you go do films and you're spoken for it,

to go out on the town can be laborious, especially as you, like people knew me from SNL. So me and my friend Chip, who I work with, we would go find a place, I found an app that was just like, Oh, really? Yeah, where you find out where the pinball machines were. And so, and it's so great,

because it give you a, it give you a reason to go out, give you a focus on something, and not just having a beer, like, you know, we're not like, do something. Yeah, to give you some hand to focus on, and also, as people maybe start to join us,

you could kind of just include them. It was it was always we'd always rent a pinball machine to wherever we were shooting a movie just to kind of learn and give ourselves something to do. Oh, that's like a sandwich. Actually, yeah, I feel like. And Jerry's Delay, a little little Gen G 13 on Netflix, here boy. Okay. Jerry's Delay in the valley was a big place to hang out. I think it's still there, but maybe it's not. Jerry's old. Yeah, but they had, so that was the old days of like

Sandler Drake, say their Schneider, where they had pinball in their fun house, a game called Fun House. Yeah, I love that game. And we would just hours, just because there's nothing to stand up in the day, board over us, go bomb a night, come back in. It's practical, it's physical.

It's a quarter, it's not bad. You get 10 bucks if you can ride it out. good get you have a good game at last 15 minutes and then you're sort of competing against those. Oh, you hate when someone's going down now. Yeah. I'll come by. And then you do you hear that knock. That's a good one. It's very close to what. So you lived above a burger king. Yeah. So this is when is the first Thursday's appointment of Burger King, it must have been in New York. It was absolutely New York.

I'm 46, between fifth and sixth. It was the first place. It was the only place I looked at. I moved in. They said had me at the paramount. It's supposed to be two weeks. I know. Is there a reason for SNL?

Yes, that's what I do. I go really something's wrong with my room. It's two feet by three feet. I went down to front desk and they go, so you got a king suite? I go, no, this is with my room. It's two feet by three feet. I went down the front desk and they go, so you got a king's weight? I go, no. This is my whole room and I know fucking I do.

I had to sleep in the fetal position. It was so small. But literally you couldn't stretch out. Oh, no, you can absolutely touch the wall. Either it's okay. Yeah, but this was at the paramount. This was the room that the hotel that they put on. And then you can't on you bringing a suitcase.

No, it's fine. It's when you go in, they go. You can go in or the suitcase. Yeah, you both can on you bring a suitcase. No, it's back. Because when you go in, they go, you can go in or the suitcase. You can't go in. You both can't go in. It's honestly, there's a stand. It's on your bed. It's a...

But I was there, yeah. I was supposed to be there two weeks. I'm extending it like six somehow and went to an internet cafe, looked up a place on Craigslist. My sister, Kristen, and I already lived there for a few years. So I had her come to the,

you know, look at the place. And I could see the 30-rock out the back, out the, out the blinds, because that was why I was here. I figured I was going to get let go with them, at least, whatever the writers could do with minimum. It's burned in all of us. I know. Where? Just, we don't have to sound like fireme. Why would they hire you as a writer? They, they, they, they, see you perform. But then also, like, you're writing and said, let's just try and... That would be impression. I get it. Yeah, yeah. I never asked. I, I mean, but that also like you're writing and said, let's just try. That's the impression. I never asked.

I mean, but that was the impression I got. I mean, it's a little bit like, like, I would have said, like, you know, I was kidding about, you know, Sandler wanting around the game. The the always hear that Lauren, like, he just wants funny people around. So even though I auditioned for it and I auditioned the year after Tracy had left and, and it was your keen and got hired following the infamous Mitchell. And yeah, I had a decent audition.

I had one piece in there where I play a senator who offends black people and then he goes to apologize to them. He then offends Jewish people and then he offends. And he was based on Rick Santorum. Like he compared homosexuality to beastiality any of his friends. And he was based on Rick Santorum. Like he compared homosexuality to Beastieality and then in his apology, like just doubled down on it. And it was like, what is going on?

And so I did that, but it was nonpartisan. And so they liked the writing of that because it was taken. I like the thought behind it. Steve Higgins was more vocal about why I got hired. Maybe you could give it to someone else. Steve Higgins was more vocal about why I got hired. Maybe you could give it to someone else. Steve Higgins was the champion for me. Yeah, him and Tina, and Tina, who I knew, earned her husband from my second city days.

And so, yeah, so then it was just a matter of going out there. I go into that building, walk upstairs as Chris, how is this? It's nice. It's clean. I go, and I don't have a good sense of smell, if any sense of smell. So I was like, does it smell like burger? She goes, you can kind of smell the fries,

but it's gone by this floor, because I think three or four floors walk up. And the reason why I was on top of the Burger King is because I fell in name Lou, our landlord owned, was a franchise guy, and he built these things around the top of it. I still thought we're talking about SNL, but so SNL is been a little like,

Tater Tater. And SNL was the, I always thought it perfectly. It's the key. If I pick you up, just come down. What was your, I wanna always ask, as members, like, Lauren Michaels is this enigmatic. Of course.

We've been doing Lauren if you haven't noticed. I've been thinking about it a lot. I'm not. And it's like, pretty, everybody does it. But your not a lot of it. I'm not a lot of it. Yeah, pretty. Everybody does it. But your relationship with him, how did it evolve? Was it where you stand off?

Is it first? No, he was always really nice to me. I think he wanted me to get out of my own way while on his watch. You know, a little bit like, I would I would say that, you know, the part of him that that hires people because he sees something in them or someone that he sees something in says that, you know, he should go after the this person's got something. Like, I think he's seen all of us or our archetypes like a dozen times over at this point. So he kind of is like, okay, I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you Billy Murray advice.

You know what I mean? I'm gonna attach you to someone. I don't know, I've never asked, but that's what it felt like a little bit like, because he was auditioning, you know, who to, you know, you know, like, but he was always supportive. Like he was, and anyway, it was always something that I felt I could go up and speak to.

I remember that after that first audition, I talked into Horatio and Maya Rudolph. Horatio, I knew from Second City Mai who I just met, but it was lovely. I went down to go on a series of go, they're not gonna laugh. No one's gonna do anything, like don't worry about it. And I went down, did it,

and after I got down with my studio audition, the first one, Lauren came over and shook my hand. And I did not know what to make of it. We're not knowing. I still like, like, we're, it doesn't, yeah. And I did not know what to make of it. We're not knowing. I still like, like, we're, it doesn't, yeah, I still don't know what to make of it. He came over and shook your hand. He stood up, walked over, now I don't,

now I walked forward and I was told that no one's gonna laugh, people did laugh a little bit, it was only like five people. And then he's not gonna say anything. And then he got up and did the opposite of that. I was like, I didn't go upstairs and try to make sense of it. I probably haven't really spoken much about it because it didn't, I was like, now I don't know if, I didn't, upstairs and try to make sense of it. I probably haven't really spoken much about it because it didn't. I was like, now I don't know if I didn't, I then walk out, go back to my dressing room,

which was, you know, Darryl Hammond's dressing room, I believe, at the time. And he may have just walked out behind me and gone to the john, you know, I mean, like, and so I don't know. Can you give me a piggyback ride? But it is. I can't. I mean, we'll cast it sort of like almost like a sitcom in a way. You know, you'll be Bill Murray and Bill Hader will be you.

So we'll be on a date. We like a Phil type or no. No, I don't know if I was. I feel like he wanted me to be the thing that really helped like sort of pushed me over the edge because I wrote for those first two seasons was like I wrote when you came back to host once and I was on the cast when you came back to host once.

But in those first two years, there was a sketch that we did when Tom Brady hosted and I basically did like this, the same dancing that I do in that what up with that sketch. I was saying that. We wanted to talk about that. But I did that dancing because Beck was performing that week and he had a guy that was doing the dancing

like kind of like off to the side. And so I just made the choice to do this and then it made a bunch of people laugh. And I remember Tina telling me that during, during dress rehearsal, when that sketch was going on, he kind of looked at the screen and goes, Dan Acroid. Dan Acroid.

You know, Dan Acroid. And then, then that, then we had the show Saturday, the sketch made it on, as did the other sketch that made my buddy, Joe Kelly wrote for our man, Tom Brady, and then two weeks went by and during that break, they hired me to the cast. So it was kind of like, well, it's such a specific dance

and it always makes you laugh. Even if you, I watch it again and I'm laughing every time because it's so specific and you're playing it so earnest and so clueless. So, and what's up with that? You can't take your eyes off you. And Kenan talked about how much you made that sketch, you know. I mean, that's very sweet of him.

I would argue. Because you didn't have a line or just what he called it's got a bicycle thing and then you would do the side. His running and it's hard to let him. You look so stupid. Yeah. And you're wiggin' and also, I think in the Ted Lasso clip, where it looks like you're in the middle of the,

all the guys and then I've had like a first show. So it's a hilarious, very specific. What's up with that is just funny anyway. It's just funny and it was such a joy. I mean, what were the, like, when people ask me my favorite sketches from that, that one is always top three and not necessarily because of the effort I put into or the way people respond to it, which is always lovely, but just,

it was the one that we did my generation where when they'd start to build the set, people would start to get hyped. And then I found that spot after update. So they'd tear away the update thing, then they'd start putting up that and the people in the crowd. Oh, wow, they know that we're all in it.

That's great. Everyone was in it. Everyone was in some weird, gigantic, cast. And you'd always have like, Robert De Niro there. Or someone like, you know, like like some weird cameo, you know, Bill dressed as Lindsey Buckingham.

We knew exactly where it was going to go. We're just slotting in all these things and it was great. You get a cameo. It's great when people even cast want to be in it. Yeah. Where a host comes in and says, I want to be in that. Yeah. That's the bet.

And so for people, no, what's up with that was like a, Keenan was a game show, a show, a talk show host. He never got to asking anyone any questions. And he's long musical. He's long and strong. And you have background singers and things. Yeah, yeah.

And then you dancing. And also athletically, did you get out? I mean, you did it for a long time. That would be a tough one. It was more of a magic trick. I would do it for a little bit of time. And then we'd, I jump in to frame. Like that was the thing that, I mean, the thing I was looking at is,

I've been doing that dancing since I was like, I'm a basketball team. Like from the early 90s, that's just watching UMTV wraps with Fat Five Freddie and Kid and Play and House Party and all those movies. And yet it was the same time, made my 15 year old friends laugh. The things that I like delighted in were like

me learning the edge of frame and how to make it look like I'm dropping you in off of something or taking a long exit roundabout thing doing like a Sherman Helmsley walk off, you know. And just trying to tickle like Keen and trying to make him laugh and just milk up as much screen time as possible Just to make like Kenny A. Mong and the booth laugh

You were doing it different on air you were so surprised Yeah, you try to switch up little things. Yeah, yeah, we had a good spray group of people My generation that at some point you realize that if we if we make the boss laugh by making each other laugh You'll yeah, but it is in a sketch, it's funny with the sound off. Like there's no real joke. Once the melee starts in the party and the dancing and all the stuff, the audience can really just laugh. Oh, it's great.

Because they're not listening for any, which is another one I wanted to bring up that you do with Keenan was the scared straight. Yeah. And he gave you kudos too as his partner in crime, you know, going, Hey, hey, come on. I mean, that, that thing is really classic. So fun because we'd always get a, you know, the host would have something fun to do. But then, you know, Bill and Andy were in there in Bobby Moynihan, it's who I picture for the third, for the third. And just, and

Keenan, when you get Bill and Andy cooking and' and laughing and then Bobby too, Bobby's so funny. And then yeah, Keenan would come in there just to Holler and, whoever I'm trying to think, I mean, like Holler and, yeah. And were you writing on the show with four other people at that time? Did you come up with this with Keenan or? No, that was, that was probably him, I'm guessing Brian Tucker, maybe, maybe Seville's Rob Klein potentially, but no, a lot of times I was just, you know, like those two instances were just, I was merely amused.

And who did you connect with as a writer? Did you have someone you wrote with more regularly or would come to you with stuff? Yeah, well, I mean, those first two years, I, I, I really was felt in Poster syndrome of like, is a writer only because I had only recently discovered what I did, what I liked writing for myself. But again, that virtue of having funny friends, it was one of those things. There are two commandments, if you will, like a piece of advice that Tina gave. One was like, you know, don't write anything that you feel like you can do yourself.

You know, because it'll drive you crazy, especially if you did audition for the show. And now, and I did it once, and she was 100% right. I wrote a doctor-filled thing for Jeff Richards, like later in my first season season because I just wasn't getting anything on. So I was like, well, write something that I know and Jeff and I worked on it really well. And it didn't go super great at the read through. And I remember it's being unnaturally upset. Where it's just like, that's, you knew how to play it.

Yeah, that's my thing. Yeah, but when you give it, when you hand it over, it's like, I was okay doing that, but I, but it's like the, it's like people weren't hot on Jeff at that point in that room and he was doing it well. It just didn't get over that hump. That Wednesday hump. He is good at it.

Yeah, man, God, I think when they hire you as a writer, I think it's Dana, it's like a little scammed. First of all, it's a little cheap. You can make your work harder. You're sure? I didn't want to be a writer. I think it's Dana. It's like a little scammed. First of all, it's a little cheap. It makes you work harder. I didn't want to be a writer. I didn't want to be a writer. I don't know how to be a writer's mayor's own. I just barely had 25 minutes of standup and Rob Schneider,

and I got the call together and he goes, hey, it's great news. We're hired as a writer, a performer's, and I go, no, it's great. That's what Chevy Chase or someone was like, I don't know how to fucking write. And I don't know how to write for other people. I barely know how to write for myself.

So you get in there and they would say, you know, write for Dana, write for Mike Myers, write for whoever, and I'm like, it's so hard. And also I barely have ideas myself. And then you give them away and it kills you inside. I know. And for me, what eventually happened was I started pairing up with Fred. Fred and I hit it off and Fred's just a lovely fun guy. And what I couldn't do was make up something for these guys, like on a blank page at that point.

But what I could do is listen to what they did, do bad impression of it, let my brain click into that and help with rewrites. Like the rewrite table was, I loved, I still love it. I'd sit at his show's rewrite table. Like, you know, that's my whole life. It's fun to help someone else's. Yeah, because he goes out of the way

and you're just like, oh, I've got one line in. Oh, it's the best. And you feel like you're in the game. You're like, if I can compete, just be, yeah, even with these guys are in the mix. Absolutely. Like, I, like, that I'm not taking up space here that I do belong here.

I have worth being here. They haven't wasted the other time. They're not belonging their eyes. Exactly. I told Dana this, he was there, I think, when I, there's a sketch where he's played receptionist, I have worth being here. They haven't wasted the other time. They're not going their eyes. Exactly. I told Dana that he was there. I think when I, there's a sketch where he's played receptionist, I wanted to do it. I hadn't been on much and I was sort of teetering on every summer.

They'd go, I don't know if we're going to keep them. You know, and I'm like, God damn, you know, how can I work any harder? Maybe I'm just not good enough. And then that one, I got on and then David Bowie was musical guest. So I said, ask him if he wants to be at the end. And I want to know who he is. And then he said, yes. And then he wanted to call me.

And then he asked if he could be my part and switch. And I said no. And it was so hard. But I go, I have nothing. I mean, I, and I, and I made me think what you said about you just want to get on. So even like one of your good sketches, you might just give to someone that you brought in. Yeah. Just to get on a stay. And then of your good sketches you might just give to someone that you brought in. Yeah.

Just to get on a stay. Yeah. And then worry about it later like, okay, I gave one away. But I don't even know if that one was any good. You just go, I want to do it. And he's like, oh yeah, okay. And I was like, oh my God, I have to, I get to talk to David Boy and then I get to go sideways

with him right away. He's like, yeah, okay, go fuck yourself. Good luck with your shit. I had that. But he was nice. But he was nice. And he was just hanging on that with was Rob Williams who I adored and was a really good friend, but he really wanted to do church chat. This is in the early days.

This was my golden ticket and I was very careful. And I thought if Robyn got so excited, it would be like, oh, look, no tits, you know, you know, that kind of stuff. I was just afraid of it and even called me Saturday morning at like 10 a.m. To be in it, to be in it, to be in it, to be a guest. I really like to play, you know, and it was heartbreaking,

but you know, we got past that, it wasn't, but it was in those days, if your thing was very precious, you know, I wanted to keep it quasi real in a sense. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, that's not like when a quote sell out, like by giving it to the, over to the show. I mean, again, I'm using this metaphorically. It's not selling.

Well, that was a lucky thing because the cast, yeah, I had Phil and Jan and people in it. And it was a lucky thing. I didn't know home base and then have the cast come and go and the host. So Lauren loved it. Yeah. Because I didn't have to score. Did you come in with characters? Not really. No, I did, I did like, no, not really.

Did you write them down? I mean, was that same? I did like three characters and like seven impressions that first audition and and it was mostly that Senator sketch that I mentioned. And from what I heard, like when you get to that point, like how the heck did I get here? You know, like a three years, once you sort of know

you're there. How did that make it? Whatever you did, you mean? Yeah, exactly. And it was as much like the banter in between, like dealing with like whether the piece played well or didn't, you know, but I was, yeah, dubbed, you know, being funny.

So they just wanted me at the table. Because it did feel weird getting, you know, didn't be like actor. I mean, I called my manager over at Brilstein Jeff, and I was just like, maybe I fucked up. I think I should just stay at that. You know, you're in show business now. I mean, show business. And he would say, you know, you say on love, Chevy Chase, Tina, you

know, obviously at that point, like all started as writers, it's like, you know, and I do sketches, you know, questions and anything. It was, it was great. I mean, you know, and yet it really took that relationship with Lauren. And to the one thing that I learned there that I feel like I would encourage folks to do is go talk to a person that can, if you can, if you have the opportunity to find audience

with the person that can actually change the situation, do that versus talking to everyone to the left and right. And Lauren was always open to that with me. the situation, do that versus talking to everyone to the left and right. Yeah, that's... And Lauren was always open to that with me. And I think that... When did two A-holes come in? Because that was one fairly early on. That was Chris and I's first season.

Yeah, so that really popped when I saw that. Yeah, that was this magic Christmas episode that Jack Jack Black hosted Neil Young was the musical guest. We had our new sort of generation was, you know, pretty exciting. I had come in at the end last three episodes of the season prior. Bill and Andy got hired over the summer. And then Kristen got hired about like five, six weeks into the season. And then Fred, a little later. Well, Fred had already been there. Fred and Forte had already been there. Yeah. Well, yeah. So that was, that was a, you know, a very fertile time on SNL. Yeah. The cast was.

But that specific episode was that they did lazy Sunday at the digital. The New Ireland guys, we did two A holes. Will Forte did spelling, the spelling B sketch that he had submitted probably six times in the couple years. Oh, that's right. Which was a groundlings trunk piece that he had. Yeah. Just everybody loved it. Just he never got over the hump, but Jack Black, who was the host in my very first episode as a writer

that I got a piece on, like he was just like this lucky charm for me specifically, but I feel for a lot of folks, because he was one of those hosts that would just support the piece. Like in A-holes, he's straight up, just a straight man. And that was Chris and I.

We were right together every single week, and we were just tired, and we were just chewing gum, and just started talking like, I bet, I bet, and just how do we make this guys? Life, a nightmare. How would you describe that to people who are listening and may not have seen it? It's like two cocky young people, self-involved.

Two self-involved people making a business transaction as difficult as possible for the person trying to help. And you had a rhythm, oh, baby. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like, chewing gum, yeah. Hey, babe, what are you doing? Yeah. Yeah.

We want to go to Hogwarts. You know, I think Kristen was just like this kind of like I'm just like that, but like almost like a periscope and type. But you know, just vocal fry and she was like, almost like a Peris Hilton type, but you know, just vocal fry and just, I wanna go in there. I'm tired. Sometimes at three in the morning you go, is this even funny?

Oh, 100%. You just like, are we delirious? It's fucking funny, but also it's you too, which is already, you're halfway there because people want you, yeah. I mean, maybe you weren't even that. Still emerging, I think. I mean, she was off to the races because Chris had so many

Have it so many good characters. I mean the groundlings folks like blue Always consistently blue doors off of a second city folks, you know, did they really yeah? I think like in in regards to characters You know, I mean like like I mean, I mean, that's what I love about the I I'd say that you know, Farrell and McKay are like burden magic, like just like platonic soulmates that were like the Hat Feels and McCoy's, who then came together with these two sensibilities of these two amazing sketched, you know,

American like the comedy theaters, and then boom, like, you know, or off to the races, once they decide to like, just, you know, harmonize with each other. We had more stand-ups back, one more time. Yeah, a lot of us were stand-ups. Didn't have real theater up in San Francisco, or there's no ground leans there. Yeah. I would have been in it in a second. Sí, con más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los más de los de correos electrónicos para ofrecer recomendaciones personalizadas para mejorar el contenido de tus correos electrónicos, segmentar tu público, entre muchas cosas más adivina menos y vende más con intuity

mail sim, la marca número 1 en email marketing y automatización, empieza hoy mismo en mail sim.com, vas a vender a tus públicos de marcas competidoras en número globales de clientes en 2020-22. 2022-2022. I wonder what it's like to be in the ground lanes today, because it's obviously such a feeder system. And now the Hall of Fame would love it and go on. Of course. Must be very nerve wracking, because if you get in that and you're in the main company, people, you have a chance.

I would assume so, but I think it's like, especially being out here, because that was one thing about second-city in Chicago, is that you weren't, it was just about trying to do that well, like navigate like that. You wanted to be a good improviser, you wanted to be a good writer, you wanted to be a good actor, but you wanted people to do a good job for the piece, but it wasn't, you weren't thinking beyond like the building you were in in a lot of places, you know Because I think it's because it's in Chicago even though it has that same, you know alumni You know plus what 20 more years and you're kind of famous just doing it in second city, right?

I mean, that's a big deal already. Yeah, and you're getting paid for it Which I don't know I don't think groundless gets paid. I don't know what if things have changed over the past few years But can we talk about a few more your your really cool sketches? I mean, the commitment, me, I watch the, I don't know if David's up, but the potato chip will foray. And the way you play, that you both played it was such full on sincerity and drama. And then when you started to break, I just thought, no wonder he's so good at Ted Les. Like you see the seeds of it, it's comedy, but I really felt bad for the way you played it that you first you were super defiant.

You didn't need a potato chip. It's a complete theater of the absurd. Oh absolutely. With such commitment, Will Forteus, I'll freak that way. He's on it. And then the way you decided to give it up and then the way you solved, I mean, you must have known

that was, because that's such a weird sketch that it must, people who like it must really mention it to, right? That's one of those sketches I'd be curious to know from both of you, what's the one that people can come up to and you know, like, oh, we would have been friends as kids. If you like, if you like that, then we're like friends for like, you know, people say what up with that, that's great,

people dress up like that character for Halloween. Yeah friends for like, you know, people say what up with that? That's great. People dress up like that character for Halloween. Yeah. But I would say potato chip and main justice. Main justice is another. A two that if people come up to me, I love potato chip. Yeah.

That I'm just saying instantly have a soul connection with that person. Do you have one like that? Oh, yeah. What a skin as for main. Which I love. We both have a main sketch. I did it. The variety show with Colbert. Yeah. It was just a flight of fancy of a petriach farm kind of voice have a main sketch. I did it. The variety show with Colbert.

It was just a flight of fancy of a petriach farm kind of voice being a skinhead. Yeah. You know, the weather's the only thing that the Jews don't control. You know, it was that level of fun. That's funny. And what do you with then that clam? He goes, I hate stick for beaten spaniards. And so it was skinheads for Maine.

So people in an airport come up, Amen our friends and I always mention that Because we're skinheads exactly. Yeah, they Repin us. What about you David? It would be Maybe now we did bubbi twice the second the second one bottom is it's a very catchy catchy I don't know. Yeah, that was only twice That's only did and then we went away for, I went to Los Angeles the next day and this flight was in and set it. And then from then on, I probably honestly heard it maybe every day of my life for about

10 years. Because when you go off a plane, if they say anything like that, your head goes to your sketch. Absolutely. Yeah, and then like that's the easiest thing to say. And then they were told not to say that anymore. And then they show the sketch because my friends' wife worked for American. They show them and say, this is what they think of us.

So we have to change our, oh my, geez, we ruined everything. We say good morrow. Now we say good morrow. We say, good fucked, good fucked, good fucked. I mean, they still hate you, whatever they're saying. Sorry about the late room. Sorry about the late room. Sorry, the client's getting smaller.

Now, it is, they, it bought me some street cred with, sometimes they come by and like around the Southwest and they give me like a thimble of water and then they come by and they go, hey, and they wink and they give me like a two gallon jug and I go, oh my God, and then the person next to me, can I get another water? I'm like, I'm water-long, I've been too much,

I'm holding it like a baby. And then I get fucked, I have too much, what do I mean? I know, they get mad at me. Now, what about this main justice guy? That's another really. I mean, it's the same character, you know, really, which is you. But it's such a fun.

How do you describe that salt or gag, though? I mean, he's like, I got a little go-tis, like, Colonel Sanders, just like that. Yeah, like, what's funny, and this is one of those things that I love, like, one of the lessons, like, show his lessons that it can almost extend into life lessons that SNL is, the potato chip sketch was done when I was going through a divorce, I was like, you know, not sleeping well, like being pulled

every which way, John Solomon and Wilforte, who were writing buddies, went to UCLA together, et cetera, and created all this stuff since last man Earth and whatnot. They write potato chip. And the reason they write that thing is because I had done a sketch a few weeks earlier. The first time we did went up with that, actually when Gerard Butler hosted, and I had just seen Coolhand Luke and I was kind of,

oh, it'd be funny to do a Coolhand Luke sketch, but Coolhand Luke tries to get out of eating the eggs by just kind of like these are these free range Eggs like he says I bet I can eat 50 a and then I wrote myself as like the George candy part So I'm doing it all that cow boss you come now Yeah, doing all that and it did well, but it didn't get picked so so you you and that's the beauty of like Wednesdays It's like that's when you write one for them one for you and you do something and then your friends You know like here the things or your coworkers hear them,

oh, Jason can do this voice, and so then they write potato chip, and write me in that voice. And so it comes from that. And so they just do a lot from just really crazy to the place, which is literally just me doing a bad George Kennedy from. But a loud, bombastic, cocky, high energy is fun

to do in that studio. And just picturing an outfit, whatever, again, that one of those great things that I think, Chris, high energy is fun to do in that studio. And just picturing an outfit, you know, whatever, you know, again, that one of those great things that I think, Chris, in such a perfect example, that the ground these folks had, like they could see these characters that could just be transferred on the television,

with like Wigs and just like the slight, like just a couple of props and wardrobe and boom, or you know, off they went. So then with main justice, there was an idea that I had had first year for Horatio Sands and it was more like Texas justice. And then we just like added some layer of absurdity to it, we just make it main.

And I mean, I've told this story before, but like Lauren and Seth, I hated it because there's no logic whatsoever. It's not really a big set. But yeah, it's not main. It makes them like, why are they talking like this? What is going on? Why are you talking about, you know,

crawdads up in Maine, you know, and not lobster, all this stuff? Yeah. And myself and Mike Gob Ryan, who was my office mate and a good friend, we wrote together a lot. And I'm trying to think who else was on there. Oh, I think Rob Klein as well.

It was a Harvard kid, you know, like, so, like, you know, super clever and silly. We're just like, what are you talking about? What was the logic behind Tunes is the driving cat? You made us this way. You were like, you're a fool. Yeah, so I blame you, dad. And so that's why like two-thirds of that sketch,

we just go through the list, like we're like Bobby Moyan's character, it's like what the hell is going on? And then I just go through just the exhibition like, well, maybe this have a little queen Katrina. Maybe it is a time war war, you know, like a like whatever. It's just this weird. It's just satisfying the story.

Where does this guy? And then we just push on through, but yeah, that's one of those ones that you just, you know, I think it was probably from the one, yeah, the coolant Luke, but then also a band of fan of Harry Connick Jr. Like in like, like in when New Orleans folks would, you know, get real, real comfy, and just start talking.

Real cool. Yeah. Yeah, did you, when you're just cool and Luke, I mean, what were the things that blew your mind as a kid, like with movies or TV and stuff, they inspired you. Was it cool and Luke one of them? No, I mean, the first one comes to mind as Beverly Hills Cop, Beverly, seeing Beverly Hills Cop in the theater. Yeah, all of it. Yeah.

You get to get the pay for the rights for that. Well, then we just lay out on I have we do six notes. You could do six notes. And then we're like fucked. For the repeat Marcy, good Tina. Yeah. Jason. Anyway. Um, but that was it. That was a big one. Um, I mean, huge was like you know that was that was that was that was When were you in high school when was SNL? Yeah, 90 94 was like 90 94. I know I know yeah, but I would say okay Yeah up till up until sophomore year till my friend Matt bail got his drivers license So I got a car and then you know and then you're out every Saturday night. What were you doing? I had a chance not not you're on 11 30 like bowling What were you doing? I had a Saturday night.

We're on 11 30. Like, bowling, I probably didn't do too much. I don't know. Let's have a talk. We're on 10 30, 10 30 and Kate and Kate. Hope that you guys were on 10 30. Oh, we're on 10 30. Super.

Yeah. Damn. And Arizona, it's like on 9 30. Do you want me to do any of my sketches? You may have missed. I'm doing it. We're going to play. No, I'm going to ask him about something.

We're going to set some movies. Everything's on peacock. Do they have to name the network? It's a square peacock. You can't really put on a art piece on the peacock. Where the millers, horrible bosses, stop me fearing any of these. Horrible bosses too. Yeah, we were told by, who were you told by?

You're up to you. You can do whatever you want. About the age group of, you know, when you're a certain age. I know. I love looking at the ones like Dick Fuel crime scene. Why I thought that guy was fucking awesome. I do too. I thought that was so fun.

That character. The fuel, it's just me doing like a bad stone alone. But also like a diesel. Yeah. I'm doing Vendee's a little bit. So you've got a really good bald cap on. Like a super short crew cut. Yeah. You coming in, what is it?

Yeah, he's just, he's supposed to take a hit from Jeremy Renner. Yeah, and he flinch. Yeah, he's just a stunt guy and he just flinches every time. Yeah. And he fights back. It's so silly. It's so like, but yeah, I did that for the MTV movie awards when I host it. That's fine.

You can look at this. This is a big one. Okay. So crime scene, crime scene is one of my favorite. That's what we did that with Charlie Day. Okay. So now that was another great one. That's written by Joe Kelly, who's one of the co-creators, one of my dear friends, co-created Ted Lasso. That was a scene that he wrote for a sketch-o after he didn't get asked back. He had a killer year at SNL. Didn't

come back, went on to go do great work at how I met your mother, a handful of other sitcoms, you know, he co-created Detroiters, etc. That was a scene that I saw him do in the sketch-show was all about cops and magicians. Right? So does this thing, and I'm like, this is a hum, like, I just love the writing of it. It's so clever. And so like, it reminded me of like, in that space of like the the audition sketch from Mr. Show or the dead parent sketch, Monty Python. Like where it's just like the writing is just super clever. And those are two of the all time greatest sketches.

Right. And just very quickly, it was like he's kind of doing sort of a quasi-colombo investigating a murder. And then he doesn't relate to anything you mentioned. No, we're not faceballing him. He doesn't know what faceball is, doesn't know what World War II is. Excuse me. I know I never watched television.

Yeah, yeah. And so yeah, he's just like this cop who's just kind of a TV star. Very monopsython. I mean, 100%. Yeah. And so then when Charlie hosted the IAS Joe, if we could do it, he's like, absolutely. Charlie and I were doing it.

I was going to play the part Charlie was playing. And then Charlie was like, what if he switched? I was like know, if we could do it. He's like, absolutely. Charlie and I were doing it. I was gonna play the part Charlie was playing. He, and then Charlie was like, what if he switched? I was like, yeah, let's do that. Cause Charlie and I had done horrible losses one and two. I'd been on that's always sunny. I think he's as smart and lovely and funny as they come. He's funny. And so I was just like, and trust his instinct

and his gut like crazy. And I was just like, yeah, let's do that. And that sketch, I love the pieces. And it's, it's just one of those things that similar to like doing the George C Scott or sorry George County voice is like just because you do it it like there and it dies like doesn't mean it's dead like it just because it dies doesn't mean it's dead like it can come back around and find some other place or inspire some other some other thing that then finds the right

host and the right timing right home yeah same same thing with CalBill until Walkin came in. Yeah, walkin' cause then they do it a few times a day. They did it and it just never landed. So they said they did it as the host, who was we talking to, they said they did it and they said it didn't work. It didn't work. And then they got a FIVA.

So you see crazy. I mean, you can't, it's one of the greatest rhythms. Absolutely. And then Will, who can lower his his IQ which we said in like five seconds Calboli does this thing with his eyes where he's really stupid So the two together. Yeah, it's a magic sketch But this one I watched bad damn. That was fun. Yeah, that's that's joke Kelly and Charlie day And we just me just trying to get in where I fit in you know damn which Jane Dana

I want to ask about horrible losses because. Well, we should because, and pull on our staff or, or mention it. I saw it. I love horrible losses. No, I saw the horrible losses too. And also the millers, that one was another sman. And you have an aniston and bullthom. Yeah, she's an all three.

I mean, what do she like? I've seen all these movies. Wait, she's in them? Yeah, exactly. You go to her parties and you don't even know how to do it. She's been in. He cares about her as a person. No, I like you're gonna get disembodied.

I wanted thinking that she need coaxing to be super dirty. And I think that was the horrible losses one. Or is she like just ready to just break it out? Would she find a stripper in the very front and then the ball? Yeah, she's, I didn't get the impression she needed to be coaxed into it at all. So she reads horrible bosses where she's filthy. No, no, Dana. Oh, yeah, yeah, she's trying to get crutches.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, she talks dirty and after, not too far from friends after that, right? It was pretty, I mean, at least she was like America sweet art. 2013, we did, or no, that was like 2010. Yeah. So she, yeah, yeah, saving your stuff. I'm just going up, see you remember that. Throwing away, you know, putting was like 2010. Yeah. So she, yeah, same year's going up. She remember that. Throwing a wig on, you know, putting a wig on too. I mean, that was definitely her being, you know, I would assume her having fun with the

songs that people make. Yeah. I mean, it was kind of, you know, the second one, I really liked the second one. It was, it was like our homage. I mean, I think the world, like I said, of Charlie and of Jason Bayman and of their partners, like, it's such a fun group to roll with and do even press together. Yeah, yeah, they're quick. And we, if I could, if I could like have one thing, one do over, I would have put out

that horrible boss's two movie, maybe more in the summer, because they did it. Warner Brothers, a new line released it from when I understand as like counter programming for Thanksgiving. And it was like, you know, because that's usually about Oscar movies and like family movies. And it's like, and they just, I think they miscalculated, you know, people wanting to go see a movie with their grandparents where Rachel from Friends is wearing a cock ring around her neck. Like, she's riding a Sibian from London. Yeah Yeah, she's somewhere, had that idea in a room.

Everyone's, yes! Let's do that. Did you plenty of those sappy dark movies will go into the corner? I'd like to end them. I'd love to be on the side. You know, they're just like doing a scene there, like one more.

Jennifer, maybe say, yeah, eat your pussy. Okay, rolling. And she's like, wait, what am I doing? Just to get the yell out, bark out, all turn it in joke. This is everybody. Yeah, that's how all those movies work though. But they just run in jokes.

That's the fun ones when you do comedy. I think that's funny people. I wanted us to keep doing it like, almost like the March Brothers. Like just, you know, the next movie we're gonna do is like a prison break movie. Like just keep doing genres, but as the three, like these three goofy middle aged dudes

and just going through it. Yeah, I wanna work like that. You're attitude it. Yeah, I hear people say this a lot. They don't make comedies like that anymore, or like, Trumpet Thunder, or, you know, just, it feels like we're in a different place with comedy films. Like, all balls out, funny, R-rated comedies. Yeah.

I guess they're out there. I don't, I'm a shut-in. Yeah, I don't watch all of Ted last time. I think sometimes they, from the top, you get down. Like I don't know if I do that. You can do it, but you know, it starts to, you start to lose jokes, even in specials. It never really sets your specials. Yeah.

Kind of stand up. They start cutting stuff. They start saying, hmm. Yeah. And you're like, oh, because it used to be just say whatever and Leverdai, but if you're going to get in trouble, it's you. And now they blame Netflix or Amazon and that's, that makes them nervous.

So it's just hard to get out, do whatever you want. Podcast, we're not really dirty. Dana's filthy, but we're not really dirty. Loads working blue. So, you can't, so, but this is one of the last places if you want, you can sort of say whatever you want There's not really a boss. Yeah, and we have editing capability Yeah, kill all what we're gonna take 90% of this out. We'll watch to be more

Start one more. We're gonna start Dana I did one the other day and I was doing my fucking gross bits a whole I was like Boba Boba bits Bob it's I walked in coming in a hot a five minutes and they got it's great I was doing my fucking gross bits of hoi. I was like, blah, blah, blah, bits, blah, bits. I walked in coming in a hot, about five minutes and they got, it's great. All right, let's roll tape. And I, you're fucking joking. And then they're like, we're here with David.

So I go, you guys, it was rolling. Everyone's fun. I'm always rolling productions. You want to shoot the rehearsal? I don't die. Get the little bun and let her rip. We covered George Wem. We did a little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah. We did a little bit of, we did a little bit of, we did a whole pass. I did do die. Get through a bun and let her rip. We covered George went. We did a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

We did a little bit of. I did do hall pass. I did do hall pass. Yeah. With Owen Wilson. Hey, how's God. I think we should go there. Yeah. I knew a guy who had a real hall pass with his wife. Like literally. And who was I don't know if you ever paid it off, but it was like they both married his virgins together. And she said you got you got one So when this movie came out I go damn they made a movie about that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see a title good idea I've been a hall pass for a couple of people have you starting to get it down I Was my kids at the meet and greet and they're like I say that to love it's all the time starting to get it

Here's his good coming in song I wanna say that to love it all the time. Starting to get it. No, here it is. Here it is. Go ahead, come and get your song. Come and get your song. Oh yeah, I shoulda do one of those for you. Yeah, go ahead. I try to come up with the worst hacky redneck comedian. So it's called Red Redneck, either redneck comedian.

Uh-uh. I met my sister only cause mama to me down, come and get your song. Got it, we just, right? I asked my mama what's for dinner. She said, road kill. I said, what kind? She says, I got to take a drive, come and get some.

I like to help come and get some. It's in the jokes. And you're like, what was that after the joke? Come and get some. I got mine as a wrap. It's your cigar pull. You know, Burns is like, come over the catchphrase. Come and get some.

I had to look it up. I couldn't have been the first one to say, come on, Geetzal. I remember, who's the guy that would do Shucky Duckie? Quite, quite. You know, somebody on, it was on deaf, deaf comedy. Oh, a lot of comedy. Shucky Duckie, I think. It might have been called Shucky Duckie.

Oh, my name is name. Yeah, Shucky Duckie, quite. I think it'll be easy. Well, there's millionaire influencers that just have a catchphrase. Ah, that cut, so. They like that catch filter. I think the Louisiana there's millionaire influencers just have a catch raise I don't know I'm not a grumpy old man. I swear to God. I'm not I like with this movies I just say what movies in you weren't all past yeah, okay? What else do you I'm like most of it. I did like all past masterminds masterminds. Yeah, master

was a cartoon one. No, that was that was with a Christian wig and and and Galvan. Yeah, and oh, and Wilson again. Yeah, I was I played a little um, like a hitman and showed up there for a couple weeks. Higher gun, you know, he come in you screw together your and you screw together your. And then you went back and host. It was that kind of cool. That was in SNF. Yeah, yeah.

I'd been asked prior, but the time was off. And it was, I went back and played, you know, I'm, I'm, I had in a couple of times. Oh, you did? Yeah, that's right. But, but at that point, I never, I hadn't had the chance to host. And yeah, this is perfect timing.

Yeah, it was nice. I mean, it's, it's a surreal experience. The one thing that was different was that was post COVID. So, like, you know, the table read was, which I loved, you know, like Wednesday was like, like a little theater show for everybody, you know, and the- Oh, yeah, 55 sketch.

I just loved it. And just the marathon. Like it's insane. It's insane. The B.O. and that room alone, I'm so nervous. Yeah, and also everyone there has seen the best of the best of the best. Like at least a third of that room has been there

from the get-go, so they're just kind of like, okay, yeah, we saw this. We've seen this a couple of times over. But regardless of all that, the opportunity for the first time ever, yeah, because during my time, there's between 45 and 55 sketches like when we're working another 10 years I was there.

I'd probably on a good week be in 12 to 17 of those sketches. So the most time you're watching read, read through, read through and read through. So then to show up and go back and to be in 95% of the sketches. Yeah, so you read over 50 sketches, over four hours, sickening. I loved it. I've tried to read them, you Yeah, you could read over 50 sketches over four hours. Seconding. I loved it.

I've tried to read them. You know, you make little notes, you try to do it and then just give it. Give it your own. No, you can't do it all. Are you a good reader? I'm like a cold reader and stuff. Some people are exceptional and then some of them are good. I feel okay with it.

I am okay with it. I am. And it did make, and it's something I said to anybody that is currently working in SNL or ever, or ever did, like, or will, like, if you get really good at doing as a now, you go, you then need to find, you need to then leave, like, during the off weeks or the summers go, go play with other people that don't do as a now, and you'll be like, you'll feel like, you know, Daniel LaRousseau, like the karate kid, where it's like, oh, I didn't know I learned how to do this.

You're faster, because you're in this all-star team, you know, you're in this perspective. And as long as you don't have the chance to go out of the mentality and to your relationships. You know, it seems like you have a, you know, I'm, I'm dovetailin' to Ted Delass. Yeah, yeah. You seem to have a lot of wisdom around SNL.

Like, what would you say to a cast member who just got hired? And you had, you had 30 seconds with him. Yeah. Like, I would say, enjoy the process of creation and destruction on a weekly basis. Just enjoy it, like make shit, eat shit, et cetera, repeat. And don't judge yourself for when it sticks or what it does, because like I've never said just because

it dies doesn't mean it's dead. I've never said that before, but that makes total sense to me. Oh yeah. And there's timing. Where is the set in the studio? Who are you following? What sketch are you following? And what's the vibe of that audience?

Sometimes I can just tell when I'm doing stand up, that it's a dead spot. And I see an open mic coming up. I go, no chance. Five minutes ago, probably we were rode away. Right now it's just dead. So there's a lot, no chance. Yeah. Five minutes ago, probably we were rode away, right now it's just dead. So there's a lot of whimsy. Yeah, yeah.

I'm in it. You know, Jerry Minor, who is a friend and was a guy that I looked up to, you know, when he was at second city, when he was on one of the stages there, he came back to guest right, and I asked him the same question, what would you, you know, if you had to do it all over

again this time there, I think he was there for like, maybe two, three seasons. He was, I had more fun. If you give it, the sooner you can make SNL your recess versus your school, the better. It's easier said than done. It's so hard. It's so hard, but that, but yet, like if you're able to do that. Well, I feel like it builds like you're, unless you're a savant, like certain people,

just immediate, but you're trying to fight nerves, try not to try, try not to be too funny, get the card, here's the guess, look around, land the laugh, be there. And then the audience, eventually you land enough, the audience kind of see is you can feel the vibe they're like and to see you. And then you get more confident and they like you more. And then I can see this happen with Cessli Strong. We were watching her evolution on the show. Absolutely. You can't rush it, but it's not very... No, I'm trying to expedite in a kind way. He asked me to do the warm-up before the show, like probably after my first or second year in the cast.

And I'd, again, never done stand-up. What would you do? I would just do like old-school jokes. You know, Richard Han, if you've never been to a TV taping before, all right, by another show of hands, who's that a TV taping for the very first time? Love the same people. You know, stuff like that. My son mentioned you yesterday, because he was at that show,

and he goes, I owe him an interview, and he goes, oh man, he's a really good standout. Oh, no, no, no, no, that's all he's sorry. You coming out. Yeah. I mean, that was learned just wanting the audience to have a better sense of who I was before he signed up.

Yeah. Before you get out there. Yeah. And he would be, you know, norm used to do it, but like Norm and Valley would say, so I'm gonna be in the sketch, I'm gonna come out when I come out, really let them have it.

Let me let them hear it, you know. Yeah. Did you just say, did you just love me? Yeah, you know, it'd be great if you get like, stand up and plop. Right? That'd be better in any way.

Norm's like, let him not like you ahead of time and go to your update where they're gonna hate you. Don't you love when Lord Lauren, you always use the one name, Chevy did it, then he did it that way. Billy liked it. No, he's the only one, Lauren.

I love, towards the end there, like on Tuesdays was the host dinners, did you guys have those? Like, where do you, yeah? I love them, because it was like, it was a little bit like the part of me that wouldn't do homework. And then we tried to talk about current affairs

or current events before, you know, we started talking about, you know, back of the wolf, you know, like I didn't read bail off, but I can talk about it in TWA. We were out of four hour boozy dinner, and then go back and write the show. I did, you know, I did to avoid writing when they go. We're trying to gather people you wanna go to Spain,

I'm like, yeah. I love to just to see learn like get loose and and I learned through repetition So here in stories that he may have told before like I didn't bother me at all I just kind of like play his Ed McMahon or just like or just I was always like I loved when you came back to host you I feel I felt I Was had fun making Lauren like my straight man like during pitch meeting on Mondays. I would I would have I'd for years since my even Chicago. I still carry them like these little tiny notebooks and I just sit there with this little notebook and it would be like or adjacent and I'd go hey Lauren you still need you You ran out of karaoke last night without paying you you owe me a hundred bucks. He's like I'll get you

he left now without paying you owe me a hundred bucks. He's like, I'll get you. Okay. You said that like, and then, and then, you know, whomever, you know, little Chris or Ben Affleck, there's no quote my relationship with this guy who is an icon. And it's just me like, you know,

that's funny. Just giving him, giving him guff. But he always, like, we would always laugh about, because it was always like respectful. It was never me like, you know, being a dick to him. But it's just, just kind of like, act like he was just one of the, one of the bros, one of the guys. Yeah, yeah.

And I think hosting is scary. One time I went back and I was like, I got sick after during dress and I had to lay down and Marcy, I don't know if you were there when Marcy got in as if she was, of course, dramatic anyway. And then freaking out, pounding on my door, I was in that little dressing off of eight H, the host and the music are there. So I was in there laying in the ground and I threw up and then it was middress toward the end of dress and I missed two sketches and I just went in and then they go. So those got cut. The writers are like fucking awesome. And awesome.

Awesome. I'm starting to have a stink on it if we try to bring it back next week. It's a little bit of bar flex.. Yeah, a little barflex. And then I got up, I mean, hero is a strong word, but I got up and I did the show. But, um, hero, it was, I'd be, that's a deep or whispering. Yeah, I was flugged. Yeah.

You rocked it out there and did a real seed plus episode. I host it twice. I don't know if anyone was better if you could say that. I remember Adam was in my, my, uh, monologue once and then he watered by open and he had to fly back to LA and I was, and Lauren goes, just do stand up.

I'm like, it's not that fucking, I never even go on anymore. So I had to go do cold stand up of like, dogs are funny. Do you know he made me do, or he made me, he asked me to do the warm up for the fucking 40th anniversary. Oh, he asked me to, because I had done it for eight years,

that one that I was telling you. And again, just straight up, just being goofy, I mean, I don't parto would introduce me and here, Jason, so they, and I can give it up for Don Pato, the man in the myth, the legend, the only person in this building that was quoted in the Bible, you know, just doing all the jokes, like God said, let there be light, he flipped the switch,

you know, like the corneus hackiest, whatever, but just having fun, right? The audience is, and that's all cast. That 40th, and that's what I said to him. Like he has Eric Kenworn, who was a buddy, who finished on the show, was, you know, writer guy that we wrote together all the time. I was like, what are you doing?

Like, like Sarah Sillman's in the house, you know, shepelle, spade, everything. I mean, I'm name check. I was like, all right, these guys were all killed. Like, why me? It just, what do you just do it? You know, and so I, spade, everything. I mean, I was like, I was like, all right, these guys were all killed. Like, why me? It just, what do you just do it? You know, and so I do it. And it's fun.

It is I eat so much shit. I like, it's not, no one's listening. It's like 10 minutes before it's live, and you're looking out there, and what I've said is like, it looked like the gatefold of like, Sergeant Peppers, the cover, which is everyone. It's just, every person was famous.

Every person was famous, and then the famous on top, famous with talking to famous. Every person was famous and then famous on top. Famous of talking to famous. At some point I was like, you know, said to Keith Richards who was talking to Jack Nicholson, you know, Keith Jack, I think if you guys sit down, people will start to follow along. And it's just nothing.

And I'm like, so I'm not bummed. I'm just laughing about, I look at the crowd, Gala Fennakis is crying with laughter about how much shit I'm eating. more than comes up to me, says, you know, do you want me to like off mic? Do you want me to introduce you, settle them down? I was like, yes, please. I go, yeah, man, like that'll help. And he starts to go up to the mic. I go, hold on, let me introduce you. I go, and gentlemen, really quick, let's give it up for the man. None of us would be here without him.

The one and only, please put your hands together for Mr. Dick Evertsall. And I do, and I make that joke. And as I do that, Bill Murray walks right in front of me, Let's give it up for the man. None of us would be here without him. The one and only, please put your hands together for Mr. Dick Evertsall. And I do, and I make that joke. And as I do that, Bill Murray walks right in front of me, looks up at me and gives me a little thumbs up. I'm burning the box up. I was like, that's why you say yes to this game. I'll take that.

Bill Murray says, you know, everybody quies down a little bit and then I got about 30 seconds to just say, hey, everybody have fun tonight, you know, like you did before they got loud again before the real show started. That was, that was just mayhem. I mean, I was not addressing him. I think I was just hanging out the hallway or something.

My mouth gets dry just thinking about it right now. Just start gazing at what we turn into as like somebody. I got to meet Eddie Murphy that night. I got like it was like a to do. Should Pell ask me, where can I smoke a cigarette? Yeah. I wasn't sure, but I was like, you can. What about a vape?

Because I don't like them. Yeah, well, all right. I know. But it was wild. Bradley, you can. What about a vape? Because I don't like them. Yeah, well, all right. I know. But it was wild. Bradley Cooper, can I get a picture with you? Sure. I know. For one night.

I know. All right, let's talk about Ted Lasse. Yeah, Ted Lasse. All right. Let's talk about Ted Lasse. Ted Starwater is a video. As a commercial, yeah, very well. There was a guy with a beard and that and then who made that call?

I mean, there you go. Is it the same guy? It is the same guy? Yeah, coach, as I was actually this morning going, Brendan, I don't know if they brought him over. No, no, no, your guys can't show you a pattern. Yeah, we're pals from way back when. I'll just set the table, David.

Yeah. So I hear about Ted Las lasso everyone's talking about Ted lasso I'm watching stuff So eventually my wife and I get to Ted lasso like everyone else were like It's made a whole new story at this point. Yeah, and then it became like this is lightning in a bottle Yeah, and you've heard everything and you actually was you can talk to it But you've heard from famous people right to just have to tell you what they thought. Like, can you, I mean, you want to mention them?

No, just famous. Well, I mean, the ones that stick out, we're like, you know, finding out the Brad Pitt, like the show, finding out that, you know, Frank Oz writing a lovely letter, you know, um, at the Emmys last year sitting next to, you know, Brian Cox and his wife and, and, and, you know, we were at a table with some of the succession folks

and then him be able to love the show. Like, just, Oh, man. You get it, you have a, and, you know, we were at a table with some of the succession folks, and then him be able to love the show. Like just, you know, it's, it works on so many different levels. It's very, the, the, the pop culture pattern, how fast you all do it around the room. Tom, Julie Andrews movies. It's all thrown away. Julie Andrews sent Brett, Brett Goldstein, a very nice head shot. Oh, did she? Yeah. Oh, I mean, her own appreciation for him. So, yeah, another example.

Roy Kentkai, all these cocks up guys, we're gonna kill him. So it's like it, it's almost like any griff at times. It's so urnous and sincere. Yeah. And then the likability factor of Ted Lasso, you know, the country bump can do it. Doesn't know what he's doing. He's smarter than everyone.

He has no ego. When the guy tried to take you know, the country bomb can, but it doesn't know where he's doing. He's smarter than everyone. He has no ego. When the guy tried to take you down that actor would be... I'm a Mohammed. Mohammed. Yeah. And then you did your press conference and turned it. So what? So you got, you do the NBC thing and I watched it again and you're a fish out of water. So then you guys get in a room, they get the order. Yeah. And so when did you know like, hey, hold shit, we got a real hook for this now. Because you cast all these other characters.

Yeah. How does that come together? I mean, it's like, it, you know, it starts and stops. You know, like, because we did the first commercial in 2013, the second one in 2014, we got to do because the one in 2013 was well received. It's sort of well received just by your friends. They hear it.

Yeah, but we also hear about it from the football, you know, because it was made to bridge the gap between American football fans and soccer fans. And Brendan, who plays Coach Beard and Joe Kelly, who was one of the creators of the commercial. And we're all friends. And we're kind of like Goldilocks. I know nothing. Joe knows a little bit about both, and Brendan knows a lot about both, but mostly more importantly, soccer.

And so we tried to do that with the first commercial, and it hits like this weird Venn diagram of football fans like it, soccer fans like it, comedy folks like it, and the advertising, you know, like the business people like it. And so we get to do a second one, they don't wanna give us the same budget, meaning they don't wanna fly us out to the UK,

that's okay, all right, we'll make the commercial about how Ted got hired and fired in three days, and fell in love with soccer, fell in love with the UK. And so that's where all the enthusiasm and like, like not the eagerness to a lot of degrees came out. So then in 2015, Joe and Brandon and I meet in Brooklyn. My partner at the time was like,

you know, what do you guys all really enjoy doing that? You should do so. I was like, yeah, but what? So we sit out should do so. I was like, yeah, but what? So we sit out for a week and we're like, is it another commercial? Is it a movie? Is it this? And we sort of modeled it after the British office, you know, six episodes, one season, six episode, second season, like an hour and a half special for the third season, really.

And we just, we just, just all these story ideas and characters just dumped out of us in a, if that was a week, we worked on three projects that week. I'd say four out of those seven days, like we're just dedicated and we just filled up these pages. Then it goes away for a couple years. We have a, Olivia and I have kids, Joe. A couple of years. A couple of years.

Yeah, we didn't do anything with it because we, because kids, Joe and three other buddies created a show called Detroiters with Tim Robinson and Sam Richardson are buddies at Canon. And that was on Connery Central, so that was taking all Joe's focus. I was doing little things with like Forte and movies here and there. And then Bill Lawrence approaches me

about doing a project. We talk about that. That doesn't quite, you know, you know, we don't end up doing that, but he's like, if you have any ideas and I have like this stack of like 50 pages, like a, you know, first draft, rough draft of a pilot, but then all these different breakdowns of episodes

and ideas and whatnot. And when one take a look at this, I send it to him. She gave it to Bill. Yeah, give it to Bill. And so that's so to answer your question, it's when someone that knows that much about television looks at and goes, oh, there's something here. Oh, yeah, you guys could do this.

You guys could do this. You're probably 90% there with that. To a certain degree, yeah, I mean, looks at and goes, oh, there's something here. Oh, yeah. You guys could do this. You probably 90% there with that. To a certain degree. Yeah, I mean, a lot of it, but not that Bill's influence wasn't immense and super duper helpful. And really was the gas that got this sort of pre, like this old gelato. Sure. Those are big, big in this town. Huge.

They're almost more important than the idea or the stars. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no was, you know, NBC on the rights Warner Brothers is where Bill's deal was a show for Apple. And that was once Apple came on because we pitched it to everyone, but Apple was the only one to say we'll take it. We'll take a shot at it. And then, you know, then all the deal making after that once takes a while. So other places you went in with the pitch and they said no thing. Yeah. Yeah. Netflix passed, you know, Amazon passed. I mean, it makes like, I get it.

Like, because he won't tell you see it Yeah, no one believes in you see you did have proof of concept. I need his one But the commercials are pretty broad and I understand that yeah, right yet all that can't sustain you We tried we did do our darned us to pitch the tone of what it what it was and yet yeah, nobody was Nobody was buying and I I don't begrudge anybody really. No, no, I just yeah Tim cook. Yeah Yeah, Tim Cook. Tim Cook. How did you write the British characters, though? Like this, the woman who plays Rebecca, is so good.

I mean, all the British people are so good. How did you put yourself in how they would react to the Americans? Because they're so well written too. A little bit was good fortune of Brennan, Joe, and I all getting to work in Europe. You know, even though it's, we, the theater, you know, for varying degrees, like Brennan-John, I all getting to work in Europe. Even though we did theater for varying degrees, Brennan-Fla, often on for five years, Joe often on for like two, three years, me, often on for a year, we're just writing archetypes.

And just of the American, whatever spirit, and the assumptions being made. And we'd made jokes about all those stereotypes and assumptions while at Bunch Kago, taking the piss out of ourselves. So we'd made jokes about all those stereotypes and assumptions while at Boom Chicago, to take in the piss out of ourselves. So we kind of had that into a certain degree. And I mean, Brits are like, in a fun way, one other thing that I feel like I learned

when doing stuff at Boom Chicago is that we're more similar than we like to think. Regardless of flag or age or race gender, all those things, those complicated amazing things that make the human jump a lot. Like at the end of the day, we like sweet, we like, you know, we're like, you know, kissing.

Yeah, but I mean, even across everywhere. So if there's an archetype of someone that is too positive, we think any of us will assume like, oh, they're out of nightmare or something that's bad's going to happen. And he just sort of played against those things, you know, 75 years or however many years of sitcoms, you know, have us thinking that these things are supposed to go this way, these things are supposed to go that way. And we just try to like twist them or just turn them just a little tiny bit. Like nothing, again, nothing that we thought was-

So you don't see everything coming, You know, some people are smart. They think they see everything coming. Sure. And then you go, oh, it's a little not what you think. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And I remember feeling that way when watching the documentary about Mr. Rogers being like, oh, boy, here comes the dark turn at minute 50. And then it doesn't. And you're like, okay, they're going to wait until an hour and 10 minutes in. Then it doesn't. And you're just like, oh, he was just a decent man.

Who's trying to make a difference. In children's lives and also adults. Oh wow. So there's people like that. That's cool. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah.

What do I do about that? I mean, obviously, like Ted Lasso, for season, there's a lot of failure in the way, and then just the fun of watching how he navigates it. Yeah. And then how he encourages other people to do it. Like for me, it also, it always reminded me of like, highway to heaven or touch by an angel.

Like this idea of like, this person would come in and you know, sort of act this way and people know what the hell's going on here. Right. It was like, you know, like, yeah. Just subconsciously, I didn't realize at the time, but a big thing was about his egolessness. Like, if you don't, no ego.

No ego. If you don't put any, if you just play it without any of that, he's not trying to get over on people, he's not trying to trick anybody. And it's still 100% consistent, regardless of people thinking that it's, you know, different than that now than it was. No, it's like, it's, that's,

I talked to someone there the day who went on some psychedelic trips with ayahuasca and or mushrooms or whatever and it was really all about getting rid of the ego. Because once the ego goes away, then something has changed this person. So it's interesting that you mentioned that Ted has no ego. Yeah, that was how to change your mind, but Michael Pollan was a big influence on me. And the times that I had done mushrooms in my Amsterdam days. I do.

Oh, the Amsterdam episode, I saw that a couple of years ago. Yeah. That is high-order. Oh, yeah. No, that's something you have to see. That episode, you got to watch more than once. Yeah, there's a thank you. But the whole show has so many levels to it.

It can be slap-sick, it can be funny and silly, and then it can be very real. It's like when you're playing darts, you tad. Yeah, sure. And you go, something about, I'm just curious. Yeah, be curious, not judgmental. Yeah. People mention that too.

I handful, yeah. People have asked me to write it on like their arms and they get a tattoo. And it's not his and I don't even know if it's Walt Whitman's. I mean, we say it's Walt Whitman's because it's sort of a fun way. Sounds like it. It sounds like it. Yeah, your character is casually always quoting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Robert Frost, but it's always thrown away, you know. Trying to be, yeah, like because he's not too, yeah, he's not too proud of something. And so do you shepherd it like a sketch and when I know you have your three other partners? By the way, there is so many producer credits on the show, it's amazing. I don't know, I just watch the show.

Wait, am I a producer? You're on it, David. You might be.. I don't know. I just watch the show. Wait, am I a producer? I don't know. You might be. You might be after the show. You're called executive. But you treat it like so. You're probably someone else is technically directing, but you're just going to be an

overriding creative force in it, just like shepherding a sketch. Sure. I mean, the way I can, it's a little bit like it's a big old cook out. Everybody brings a dish and I just sort of help put things on the plate. But the sensibility has to stay wherever you want it to be. Well, if you, yeah, I'm sure something sounds false, you can stay, say, I don't, I don't feel. Yeah, yeah, that's been afforded to me from the get-go.

And do you, it's done now, right? So you're gonna miss it, I'm sure. I will, yeah. I mean, we're still, you know, like I still watch cuts for like, you know, music stuff or something like that. But for the most part, yeah, but all the editing is done, all the writing is done. And now, yeah, we have the final four episodes

being rolled out and then the, you know, hand full press here and there, which is a joy to do because I get, well, you all get along actually. So the editing bay, the college. So it's sort of, there's so many choices in there. And so I would assume coming from all those years a sketch comedy and other things, that, and you may have people there

on the same sensibility, but sometimes you'll know, right, assume you're gonna know, or we have to go to that reaction shot a little sooner to get to laugh. So there's all that mathematics in there. And so this show is landing at so consistent. That's tough, sorry to say. I always assume it's either a few people

that are right on the same frequency. Yeah. For one person, it says, guys, I think we should do it this way. Yeah, it's a reason why it's so brilliant. I mean, I think it's a, and I'm just the best idea of winning. And the other's a certain level of harmony. And it is something that I learned in that same karate kid way that I was talking about with S and L, where, you know, by the time, by the time you were there and by the time you were there, 20, you know, 15 years later, all those same people were still there building those sets, making those props, building those

wigs, you know, and they're all great at it. They've done, they've done 10,000 hours times, you know, just our three generations, much less the two prior and then the four cents or whatever. And like, I was like, okay, my sketch got picked. I'm gonna go into that room with the heads of each department and just let them know what the sketch is about from my perspective without pontificating without being kind of sending and just let these geniuses do whatever they want to do with it.

And then we have done that with this show. And if you leave a little space for the people behind the camera and in the office and In marketing whatever to lean into this show the same the same space and grace who want to afford the audience as well I think a lot of people get you know feel more ownership. Yeah, they're good in their job And you let them do their job and if you hire good people I I like to not worry about something Just to get someone say you know what you're doing way more than I do and you come in there Nothing like someone hand in you than I do and you come in there and fall in the box.

It's nothing like someone hand and use some great. Something good and you get to get rid of it all. And I get the Robert Spiral was that for me and the Bonnie Terry Turner. Yeah. You know, in terms of, it's such a difficult word, art, or whatever, it seems like there was some, and you can talk to this or not, an autobiographical

tingees in the third season based on you, potentially your private life. You can speak to that or not, but I couldn't help but notice. And I thought it was so wonderfully done because I've been on the road at times, based on my sons and stuff like that. Yeah. Those are very poignant scenes. I thank you. Yeah, what's interesting is that my What's interesting is that my relationship to my life, like I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, it wasn't there. From the very get-go, like even when the initial idea of doing a show, like, why would he go there?

Because a guy like my age would have, most likely, have a child, at least one child, and probably be in a relationship. If he's not, there's, there's, must be a reason why. And so that's why the pilot ends the way a pilot. I mean, like literally the second it was, it was thinking about it in a long form of a television show. I was like, I knew that that was the ending of the pilot was going to be, okay. So, so none of that was autobiographical. And then his life sort of marched on. The only thing that that, that, that my life that helped inform the playing of things and maybe even the

notion of a story point when breaking the episodes was being a father. And so what that's like to be away from your child because, you know, Odeous and Daisy were, you know, the season two and season three were in London. So I wasn't away from them, you know, with, you know, the way we splurred time with our children, so we gone week off. So, um, but I was always, you know, they don't do overtime in the UK. So I was home. I was able to be home for, yeah. So I was like, they literally afford to do the way to make the living. I know, right? Yeah. And so, so I didn't have to, but I, but to do, you know, my luckily, my, I've never had a parent take their own life. So you just kind of like, you have to, but I, but to do, you know, my, luckily, my, I've never had a parent take their own life.

So you just kind of like have to do the acting thing of like empathize with someone that has gone through that or has been forced to go through that based on the decisions. And so, yeah, it's, it's, I understand people conflating the two. Oh, no, it's a good answer that it's not, not maybe people are reading in a bit more place to go anyway. Yeah, it's, it's, it's not maybe people are reading in a bit. It's a place to go anyway. Yeah, it's what would naturally happen in these things because so much of it for me is like, it's like what happens when, you know, if you haven't broken up with someone you haven't been broken up with, then there's a whole bunch of music out there for you once you do.

There's a whole bunch of movies and TV too. And whether you're on either side of that thing, and boy, you think you like songs now, they're gonna get you through things and make you wanna jump off a roof and think you can fly or the opposite. It's a compliment to your acting too. You know, when you have that little soccer field, the Lego set, you're missing your,

you know, or just the little references to FaceTime or my son's here right now. There's where his flight is. All that detail. Yeah. I mean, that's just also having friends that, you know, go through all these things. And you just, yeah, just keep in keeping those things in your head, heart, and soul, and letting them bang around there. Then at some point when they come out, they come out. But, you know, I think about, I've watched the, it's not usually conscious. I watched the audio commentary for Godfather. I think it was either one or two, just recently.

And it was time out how he made Godfather one and then everybody loved it. And he's like, you got to father two. He's like, I don't have a Godfather two. He's like, I don't, he goes, but I forget the line, the studio head had for us. Like, you found out the formula for Coca-Cola and you won't make any more bottles.

I think it's such a great line. And he had this separately, he had this idea about a father and son story where you show the father and son contemporaneously when they're at the same age. And then that came down, he remembered that and that became Godfather too. And so it was like these things going on

in the world in life are you know, are one thing, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's their time to show up. You know, Christopher Walken hasn't hasn't shown up to say the lines yet. You know, and so he's how well. All right. Well, here it is all at this time. So is it because one of our Lordisms that we remember, he said to me once, He said to me once Never leave a hit No, so it's head Lasso is it not on my Is it done now This story is done. It's it sounds like such a political answer

But it's the truth it's like we only conceive what you know these these three then this thing became this this this big old thing I mean how much content is the three seasons? I think of it as a movie or I mean, oh gosh, I mean, it's 10 episodes, 12 episodes, 12 episodes, but this season is probably twice as long as the first season. The episodes are just, you know, just as long as there's more. Yeah, you know, I can't even last or I think you'd go back to being an NBC promo. Yeah, exactly. You know, and I think you could do the natural Doppler effect.

I know what you know without this is some of flight of sorry interrupting. I'm cross-talking. Terrentino wrote a book after one Spontime in Hollywood, which I loved so much. It feels like Ted Lasso, if there isn't, can it be more television, that that character people would want to hear if you thought of that? 100%. We've thought about writing a novel about him. Whether it's that, whether it's doing podcasts about the episodes, to offer those audio commentaries, which I was so lucky to grow up in a day and age of DVDs, just to talk to a few things and themes and the people that have expressed interest in the show and

also explain the show in a much more cerebral way than I ever would have been able to explain it to anybody. And even when they're off or wrong, it's still interesting. But yeah, I mean, there's opportunities, I think, for spin-offs. The way people have gravitating cared for these characters and seen themselves or their friends or their family and these characters in these situations is, you know, we were hoping people would do that. We didn't expect it to be like this. What was, when did you kind of go holy shit? Halfway through the first season or when you run all the 18 Emmy nominations?

It's the point you went. Even winning the Emmy, or even the nomination for the Emmys didn't, I think it, oh, I don't know, man. It, you know, it came out during quarantine, so we didn't know, because it's not too active online, and less so then, I just, a guy would drive by the house

when I'm taking out the garbage and honk, hey, I love the show. Oh, right. And it's a little bit the same way I felt SNL days. You walk around on Sunday, and people were like, great show last night, you're like, oh, right, people watched, there's no one's watching. You know There's someone's watching. You know, I mean, you need a feel for what works and what doesn't sometimes just out in the real world. Yeah. Oh, 100% yeah,

and it's been usually very different. And then you're getting like slaughtered with it. You go, oh, shit, something's an Emmy nomination. Yeah. Then Apple probably tells you it's doing well. They might not think exactly how, but it's doing that was the, that was a big difference. That was, that probably is from a business side of things, understanding that they have access to metrics and information that they don't share, was it premiered on a Friday. We had already started our writers room for season two,

like just in case, just in case. Then Monday calls the heads of Apple call and say, hey, so we'd love to pick you up for a second season. Then two weeks after that, we'd love to add, can you do two more episodes? I guess you did a chill. A second, they let me do more. Then in two weeks after that, we'd love to get you up for a second season. Then two weeks after that, we'd love to add, can you do two more episodes? That gives you the chills. Something is more important. Then the two weeks after that,

we'd love to get you for a third season. And you're like, something has changed. They know something that I don't know in the intersect. Yeah, but that anecdotal thing of walking around like became more clear. Because season two, we're in lockdown up there in London. So we started going to things later. Yes, we were winning these awards, but then you feel like, was that just inside the bottle or the bowl in the show biz box?

And which is lovely and flattering. And also a little something you keep. I don't know about you guys, but I keep a little bit like, well, you know, you're going to kill do season four, little crush. Yeah, you don't want to spook the muses. And so by the time we're going back there to do this, this past third season, all of 2022 and getting to take, you know, the kids to like football matches and stuff and have people calling us coaches

and being excited to see us. And like that, that, I would say a little, you know, and here in Brad Pitt, yeah, that's always nice. You can tell like, Ann Yoda, come on. No matter what you do, Dan, like you've done it, we've done it. You hear from the streets like, I could tell you. You can tell, like, Miss Peggy and Yoda, come on. No matter what you do, Dan, like, you've done it. We've done it. You hear from the streets, like, I could tell you

the top movies that they like the top TV, because it's just in order you just hear this one the most. Yes. And they probably only really like, probably 40 of my movies. I could really, really love. I like them all. I want to ask you a question. So this is, so you're, you come off. Why did I add that on?

We have editing capability. I'll get rid of it. Get rid of it. This is what's curious to me is because I came off like a rocket. I've never had anything because of this 30 years later, I'm having a little bit of a moment in Hollywood. Nothing that anyone would know about,

but I'm getting more things coming at me. So you come off personnel, you do all these movies, pandemic is whatever you do this, and now here you are, you're the bell of the ball. Hollywood loves you. So now you're wiser, more mature. What's coming at you? Like movies, would you do a potato chip commercial

if the program's right? 100% with Forte and Solomon, yeah. You gotta dance to the ones that probably, you know, I couldn't do it alone. And like, right now that you have the seat and that the audience loves you, the world, you know, you're in this moment. And so I just wondered how,

cause now it's happening the second time here it is again. Yeah, it doesn't feel like it from the inside. Maybe that's my own, just sort of like, our's things coming out, you know, like to a degree, but like there's a little bit of like, what do you get things off the ground? What do we do? What do we do with the TV show? It'd be probably scary to go do one right away.

Like, you know, let's say a second. A complete, you know, about face. I mean, there's a few ideas out there. Like I was really, really wanted to do this, this play on Broadway. But just with family, it's tough, it's tough to, I'm still trying to navigate those real life things. And also just where my, you know, head, heart and soul are at. And there's also a great desire to like get a little bored because I take your time. Yeah, I would say if anybody was advising I would say just don't be in a hurry

I think it's gonna this thing is still you know, it's still landing. Yeah, people are discovering it today Which is telling everyone out and seeing it start. Yeah, it's it's it's it's and I and I but you know I believe in that whole heartedly I I Would I truly love is seeing the way, all these great people behind the scenes in front of the camera, the way that their lives have changed from it in a way that I was afforded in an early glimpse of that with being hired by SNL. You know, that, that, that, that changes the way folks that maybe weren't supportive of a child taking a path in the arts mind were luckily, but it changes the game there where it's like my son, you know,

it just works. Oh, that's it last just anything on it. Especially if one of their first things is a hit. Like, it's also scary because some people like we used to talk about when you go on friends and your young actor and your own friends and you don't, as much as you tell yourself you don't know how hard it is after that. It can't be like this all the time. You know, I wouldn't treat you like a certain way on anything that does well. You look back. It's always going to be ups and downs. So, yeah, it's kind of like what you bring to it.

Like, I know we work just as hard on, you know, and any of those movies that you named as I did on this. I was charged with more responsibility and being like, you know, from the writing side, producing side, being the final tube for decision making and tone, cop and whatnot. That's all lovely, but at the end of the day, what I'm putting out there, what I want to put out into the world is and how I go about trying to do that. Been doing that is from any of these sketches, you know, from the sketches that weren't on SNL that I did with, you know, all my buddies back in Kansas City to now.

I think it's coming from you, I say, or your very tight friends, as long as that's coming from that area, then it's probably going to be good. It's that, unless it's, I don't know, if Quentin turned here, or whoever your favorite director, Scorsese, but in lieu of anything else, Yeah, it's coming from you It feels it feels authentic and all I've done is added to the people that I want to make laugh and and be proud of What I'm doing and then how I'm going about doing it

So it is those guys that I played basketball with you know those guys from my you know Quentin quote-unquote crossing cross-country team, but then it but then I acquired everything from my you know But then I acquired everything from my, you know, days of in Proud and Kansas City, Chicago, and so it's just like that same gatefold that I saw on the 40th, like I have that many people behind me, and they're not looking over me being like correcting my work

or making me second guest, they're just encouraging me, and you just want to kind of be able to look back their metaphorically and be like, yeah, have them doing that nod of just like, yeah, do it. You're doing that. You're doing that. You just want to kind of be able to look back there metaphorically and be like, yeah, have them, you know, doing that nod of just like, yeah, do it. Yeah, doing that. You know, you just want to be proud of you.

You know, you want to, and you also want to feel getting to come through sketching and probing a whole community like Chicago could have happened to 10 dozen other people that I got to work with. You know, just different times. I know some great statements. They're never got a total break. Yeah, brilliant. And you want to do right by them too, because it's, it's, I don't know, it's far from. There's so much whimsy to this game. And so there are other great, so God go, I, me have to stay humble and go.

I love Paul Newman for that. He was my favorite celebrity. He's a good one. He's one, and one they would go, oh, you've raised 500 million from your spaghetti sauce. He goes, I wish I'd kept the money. Yeah. He didn't want to be put on a pedestal.

Yeah. And the other thing, how'd you do it? How'd you, I could give you a thousand answers. Just plain dumb luck. Yeah. So just those two things. You asked about movies that were huge influence. It's not a comedy by Amines, but a big one that shows up

in Ted Lasval, the time was color of money. Yeah. In 1966, so between my age of 9 and 11, I watched these movies that I'd go to theaters with my dad, things are R rated. The movies are arranged. Like everything. That the mental, excuse me, the male mentoring in that movie,

like of you know, Tom Cruise is like and Tom Cruise after you know, he lays in jail and you know, top gun Tom Cruise, you know, well after risky business and all the right moves and all that, but like now he's like a bona fide like and he's incredible. He's like, that's when you don't hear enough about color when he was a kid because Chris Ainsley has so many good ones. Yeah, I like, like I love that movie. I was talking about the, at Norton and I saw him recently,

we're talking about the movie, and I thought I was gonna get laid into when he started talking about Corsese because that guy knows, like, he's done the thing and forgot more about movies than I'll ever know. Yeah. Like, any brings up color of money,

I go, I was so ready to get you. I'm really, that's my favorite Corsese movie. And a lot of it has to do with the way I saw it, but then also those performances. I recommend people to see that movie and then if you love it, then go back and watch the hustlers like a prequel. You know, because I can't believe it. The Jackie goes in and pooh.

Yeah, where he plays fast, steady, false in the same character. Same guy, I wrote the novel Walter Tevis, you know, who wrote both books and I like pool hall movies. I like, you know, rack them. We were going to call this podcast, rack them. That's good. That's a real, yeah. Yeah, we did a fun time here.

Raccomies. Raccomies. That was just, yeah, that's heavy a transition with the sound of the balls. Raccomies. Because there's a mystique, there's a mystique to people that can play the piano really well as adults that you've never seen play piano.

They're really good at jeopardy, you know, and pool. Like if someone's good at pool, especially if they didn't grow up with money, they didn't grow up with a table in there. Like how do you get good at pool? The way they do the chalk and the way it goes perfectly on their hands is like the math of it They made it look so it's so complicated But you know the dramatic movies affected me

Wasn't everything watching John the winners and stuff those things I don't I wouldn't say can I do that? It was just like just blew my mind as As art and the Beatles of course, Pink Floyd. Tom Angst and Michael Keaton movies, like where they're funny, 15% of the movie, but it's like they're carrying the stromatic narrative. Like, Mr. Mom, like Mr. Mom is incredible. Mr. Mom is a father and a son. I love that.

Mr. Mom is just a magic as an actor. Yeah, you know, gun hoe. I love those movie, my eyes. Gun hoe, I have a gun hoe posted in my hands to give me in my basement. And I was like, but again, Michael Keaton, like, was so great. I mean, him and Tom Hanks like they like like just they were these these modern version. Big. Yeah. Yeah. John Hanks. Well, what you guys think of

punchline? I mean, I mean, that was your work. That was your one who trained him. So was a very solvable. Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was a great idea. I mean, I did a great job. Yeah, it's such an interesting, like, having, I mean, guess one that we could talk about all together, is like, you know, studio 60.

Like when someone makes a film or television show about your world, like, we're very blessed to have a bunch of the football soccer community having Neon take us under their wing and embrace us in a way that again, we weren't, you know, jockeying for, but the fact that we got it authentically and organically, like really, really high-friars. Yeah, we're very, very pleased about that.

It's hard to make a movie about stand-up, you know? And I think distance running, there's never been, charts of fire, not really, difficulty to capture that. I think usually there is the never been a chair. It's a fire not really difficult to capture that. I think usually there is the meltdown and then the mic. Well, my feet's back. Yeah. And the comedian has a meltdown, which of course Tom Hanks is a brilliant actor played it perfectly. Yeah, but I've never seen that in a while.

Well, they also have locker rooms at the end of the room. We're the comedian turns and then there's a squeak and wasn't there locker room? Yes, there was. I mean, I think you would take a locker on dressed up as like a nun or something. What did you do to the show? Yeah. He did it as a way to do it. I didn't like to down it, but it's hard to do it.

Like if someone, they talk about doing a dramatic show about a sketch show. Yeah, like, like, like, like, SNL or do, yeah. When they did, I love the pilot and then it's, to be on 60, yeah, it's just tough. Tough to capture that. That was all I watched, yeah.

It is, it's fair, it's, it is. What are the movies you revisit? No, it's a, it's just tough tough to capture that. That was all I watched. Yeah, it is it's very it's it is. What are the movies you revisit? No, it's a whole fiction. Pulp fiction is a big one like I think die hard was perfect. I really couldn't. Why did you say this guy? I heard I think I watched it again.

Like my wife and I had you know, we watch a lot of red firt. Yeah, all the presidents. Yeah, of course. Three days of the condor. Which casting Sundance, Ken, I showed him presidents, and then three extra condor, which casting Sundance, Ken, I showed them my sons six months ago. Yeah, I'm real. This is awesome.

It's really fun. You have all that ahead of you. How old are your kids? Oh, this is nine, Daisy, seven. Yeah, so is he asked for a save of private Ryan yet? Yeah, no, no. But I do show them. I mean, I remember my dad taking me to see Beverly Hills cop

in the theater. I saw that movie. Yeah. In the theaters remember my dad taking me to see Beverly Hills Cop in the theater. I saw that movie in the theaters with my dad, not supposed to, F words all over the place. I know nudity. I never forget that. And never forget it. And it made me, I wanted to be at Immurphy so bad. So bad.

So bad. And more so than Chevy Chase and Fletch, I loved Chevy Chase, but actually fully really knocked my socks off in a way that still does when I rewore. And they're coming out with a new one, right? Or is that it? I guess, but you know, we'll see what happens. Yeah, but at least we got the first animal.

I love animals. I was just my, my R-rated one. They showed the girls, I know. I know, it's heavy duty. And it was pretty great. What exactly? I just, I just, I, in the middle of the night, I go, I have a boner. just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'my, but I don't know the ship's a little broken German. You see the Fableman's the Spielberg one?

I haven't watched it yet. I watched it on the plane, right? What do you think? I loved it. Really? Yeah, I mean, it is Spielberg. It's Spielberg. It's Spielberg telling autobiographical like history,

but just his love of movies and having children that are falling in love with storytelling, and getting to see their mom and dad do it. And so much I feel And, and, and, you know, so much I feel of, and I understand the laments of over nepotism, but so much of it is seeing someone do it and see them enjoying it or seeing the way people enjoy them. I, you know, nothing that I've purchased or have been given on a plane will move, Otis towards wanting to be do what I do for a living more than him probably seeing people give me as many high fives as they do when I go to

when we go to soccer. Or your happy or anything. Yeah, you're happy to see you. Yeah, that's the impression you're enjoying. You're having a great play and begin because of the themes of this show. They're like, yeah, I mean, it's something that we, I mean, how often have we had the opportunity for people that working comedy to have people tell them, take them aside and be like, I discovered this, I watched this when I was going through this and it helped me.

That's the thing. It's like, if you were famous, probably want to pick on porquies, but there's something like that, like a hard-arve, weirdo movie that everyone loved. But with Lasso, TL, Teddy, you know, the people are going to be emotional about it because it touches everything. Yeah, Hannah gets yeah. Teddy, with Teddy, you know, the people are gonna be emotional about it, because it touches everything. Yeah, Hannah gets that a lot, who play the one we play as Rebecca, just the amount of women they come up to her

and just say, you are playing me. Yeah, and she's a force in nature, obviously. So the thing I was gonna say early about the writers, we let all the Brits, Anglicized things. Every now and then do we push back where it's just like car park versus parking lot or saying kay instead of draw. And some of those things drive people crazy

and I understand that. But that's just, you know, the phrase that I would always use just so folks in Kansas can get it. So you're trying to like to get too much in the weeds of like the politics. You don't wanna lose. Yeah. Cause I think if you're dominating emotion is confusion

then you're that much further away from either being happier. Say it. You talk like Ted Lassos. Say that again. We're by first. If you're dominating emotion is confusion, then you're that much further away from either being happy or sad. You talked like Ted Lassos. Say that again. If you're dominant emotions are, I like you're, if you're dominating emotion is confusion. If you're dominant emotion is confusion,

you're that much further away from me making it on, if the audience is confused, then they don't know whether to laugh or cry at a given moment. So you kind of try to give him bread crumbs. That's me doing tenon. That's nice. Exactly. You know, most of my dominant was anger.

Juno temple. Yes, ma'am. Great. Just gotta go to the list. Well, I just like all these two actresses, especially our great, obviously, Britt Goldstein, just the way he stands all the time. Oh, yeah. You know, like a gunslinger.

Yeah, he's just funny. He's like, funny, funny voice. I'm sure it's not something that's something that's going to do him on SNL. I know, I'm surprised they have it. Yeah, it's really surprised. It's such a funny character. But that's all him, you know, it's fun to hear him talk about

because it's him doing bill spikes in his mind from Oliver. He's just trying to be bill spikes, you know, just like. And so yeah, when I'm doing like rewrites or re-breaking stories, just like the same thing at the rewrite table at SNL, just doing bad impressions of all these very specific, authentic people. And I'm just talking like this with Rebecca and Doha, like that. And I'm doing bad, I can't do any of these accents. You're just hearing the rhythm and the cadence of it and trying to draw from what they're

you know, what you, you know, what you then when did you decide I just like experience one last one you decide that you would use our rated language. Was that pretty early on? Yeah, that was early on. You don't lean on it, but all of a sudden inside these fucking cocks, mostly from him. Yeah, but that's an interesting. It was I 100% didn't want to use it myself. I didn't want him to be Yeah, you know, all the moves that you you know, I sort of got and I mean I was making these choices You know for for the reasons I made them you know the movies that I was doing and the characters

I was playing a lot of them were cats, you know guys on the make, you know like Trying to try to get Girls and what like dick fuel. Yeah exactly exactly like he just wanted respect You know, he just wants respect and a paycheck and a good lunch. But like, but then so I knew that lay on for me. I didn't want to be body and I didn't want to I didn't want to swear if he did. It was only, you know, I think he's done it once every season. And but everybody else, it's like, yeah, that's just the world, you know, as as it is. So we just wanted to. It just works. Yeah, we'll never thought it. They didn't want to

use the C word. So we there's a lot of it. And it's thrown around in England more. I mean, it's like, and that was the whole premise. It's like, you know, we were even ready to beep it, but it was May, the woman who owns the bar uses it very casually and in reference to to Ted when he gave me, yeah, and just Ted in Beard's reaction to, whoa, hey, she's like, what, what's the big deal? And just her going, no, you can use in a bunch of different ways.

And she goes through a bunch of different ways. You know what it reminds me a lot of, like when we, it ended up not being able to use it because Apple was like, no, we can't use the C word. I was like, all right. Was, remember Schneider's stand up bit from, days gone by of the word dude? Dude?

Yeah. Is that that great idea of? Dude, I like to hear you remember that. Oh yeah, yeah. That was a year on that special too, I think. Is that all the young comedians? Yeah, yeah. That thing got a lot of, a lot of like.

You're gonna cause it with a knife, dude? Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, Rob has some really good rhythms. Yeah. Oh no, what? I mean, come on. You know, it was B. I. Oh, T and I'm saying I'm a chicken No, that's my joke. Come down He's doing me with the you two concert. Oh, what is it?

Bono's yelling no war no war. I'm saying no more you're saying no more Well, you're saying worse. Sorry. I don't know I know the fuck is singing. I'm just a? War sorry. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the fucking singing. I'm just a reader's list. Am I boogin' ya? Am I boogin' ya? Am I boogin' ya? Am I boogin' ya?

Didn't we do boogin'? That's a bad bottle. What's your brain candy? When do you want to calm down? What do you do? Take a walk. Do you watch the best of David Spade? Do you watch the best of David Spade?

Do you watch the best of David Spade? Do you watch the best of David Spade? Do you watch the best of David Spade? Do you watch the best of David Spade? Do you watch the best of David Spade? Do you watch the best of David Spade? Do you watch the best of David Spade? Do you watch the best of David Spade? Do I? Just as you do now. I do. I mean, I'll play the last few years. Has been pinball was one for a while, but those are tougher to move around, right? So playing video games, like playing Fortnite with friends and just turning my brain off and just focusing on that.

I've been a thing that I got into over the last, like, I mean, I'd always been into it, but over the last, you know, six years, basically, it was like magic, like just shuffling cards. Like just, I just find it very meditative and a lot of times when in situations where I have to do as much listening and thinking as I do talk and I'll usually have a deck of cards on me because it'll keep me from pulling out my beer. You know, it's practice shuffling?

Yeah, yeah, or just kind of like doing like little slight of hand moves and I don't really perform magic for anyone. I just I'll do it for like friends after a couple beers or like my kids. If there's just like a deck laying around, but I've never been one of you. Hey, you want to see a trick? I'm relaxed. I don't know.

Actually, I've been relaxed in 30 years. See, I envy that. I wish I could. I know before I, before I die, I know I will dedicate more time to like trying to play the piano. I've done it throughout my life and then something always, but it's just that desire to want to run before I can even crawl. Yeah. So hard. It's kind of those tough, you know, I have an electric piano too. I'm just banging on it all the time, but I don't, you know, but the guitar if you get nylon strings get a small guitar

Just learn because it doesn't rip up your fingers. Yeah, before you get the calluses So you get a clear note rather. It's all mushy. Yeah, learn five chords Yeah, CD E minor and then you can play on her songs. Yeah, no, but it's really simple It's mostly the right hand. It's smoke on the water still to go to one or is that too old? That aged you's so hard I don't even know what it is. No, that's a d-purple, isn't it? Is smoke on the water still to go to one or is that too old? That age juice is so hard to spend. I don't even know what it is. No, that's a dm purple, isn't it? I'm young.

Don't act like you don't know it's smoke on the line. It's smoke on the line. It's smoke on the line. You probably know what it's about too. That's what you might need. You won't get a whole line. I would do, um, come, come, you know, I'd nirvana. Come, get some.

As you, calm, calm, be some. I got a way. I mean, I've always loved Nirvana. They're I was right in the sweet spot. Yeah, like me too. And I was older, but yeah, I mean, I thought they were brand. I listened to them a ton before doing this season for one reason or another. And I got an Otis was learn learn, you know, playing guitar him and Daisy take these these like lessons through this thing. I hear called the kid row. It's lovely. It's like school of rock, but they just called it when you're young, you learn, playing guitar him and Daisy take these, these, like lessons through this thing out of your culture. It's lovely.

It's like school of rock, but they just call it. When you're young, you learn so much better. And, and I, I bought a, I'm left handed, even though I don't play guitar, but I would play, I air guitar, left hand, it's hard to play. Yeah, exactly, or or Kurt Cobain. So I bought, like a guitar and try,

and I, Otis and I took a lesson together. He was already better than me, and I was slowing him down, and I'm just like, even playing, smells like teen spirit. So hard, so difficult. And then even if you play the simple version of it, like it hurt my fingers, I couldn't,

like drums are a much more natural fit for me. I've had a limb separation. You could also get us a maple neck's strat and have them go to the bird. David, this is inside baseball. It's a strat, oh caster. The, it's a cypacate. It's a stratocaster. The nylon strings is a mind-blower here because I was like,

oh yeah, but you can also with very light weights strings on an electric guitar, you could play bar chords of that really simple. But it's still hard. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's impossible. It's like making possible. Even people that don't,

that just do it noodle and around, make it look so easy. It, it, it, it, look, uh, well, the next time we hang out, next time. I'll show you a couple. I'll show you just a decord and then a bar. I'll bring a three, you know, bring a pinball. And then you'll be like, I'll take it out. No, I, we have a little farm up, up north.

And, uh, I want to room with pinball machines in it. Cause it's worth the least. I've got a kid they were huge. I've not played it in a while but in a pool table Jason So Terry was our guest today and he in summation The left brain This is favorites. He's got a very small room. Yep at the paramount hotel a small room Normally some up his next thing is going to be something with low pressure. You might remake the Godfather. Yeah, I guess it's been just

to decorate. I saw the car is murdered out by the way. Not bad. Yeah, not bad. I wanted to look like a bat mobile. It was cool. It's an L.R. All-Star movie star and now a global live streaming star. I don't know. It's not a good one. I said star three times. It's not a nice resume. I just very cool the best and take your time and have fun. And I'm one of those people that was really affected by the show and just love it. Just really affects me. I was By COVID you work out. We're gonna work on you. Yeah, it's work in progress. No, I'm not. Look at I took notes. No one works hard in game. Thank you Justin at, what's it?

Justin Thoreau has been our game. I just noticed. No, Billy Siddak is here today. Who plays the game? The El Siddak. I can't work Lisa. If he built Siddak as was, it wasn't he like a baseball player from a start.

Is that Greek or what's it? It's Lithuanian. Lithu. Lithu. Lithu. I don't know how to play it. Lithu. Yeah, Lithuanian. Lithuanian. From today because is that Greek or what's it with a waning? Lista who? Lista what? Way I stand. Lista. Yeah, Lith, Lithuanian Lithuanian.

But yeah, that's why this away. I want to hear your whole past story. Yeah, you didn't you didn't finish that. I dated a girl in Halpat. No, that's not your whole that the girls are come to. Oh, dated. He likes the other story better. Oh, um, He likes the other story better. Oh, oh, in Vegas.

The girls that, they go, you're my, you're my whole past. You get the meat and greet and I go, first of all nervous, hands drenched like a shamwile. And then I go, and they go, I'm your whole past. You're my whole past, I go, oh, and they go, that's where I get, I go, no, I know what it is. I'm a hard pass on my side. You're a hard pass. You're my hard pass I saw you in the back. I go. There's my hard pass

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