Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Johnny Knoxville

Episode Date: February 23, 2022

Bees on shafts, last time with the bull, and ball-tapping Seth Meyers with Johnny Knoxville. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-poli...cy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Whether you're doing a dance to your favorite artist in the office parking lot, or being guided into Warrior I in the break room before your shift, whether you're running on your Peloton tread at your mom's house while she watches the baby, or counting your breaths on the subway. Peloton is for all of us, wherever we are whenever we need it. Download the free Peloton app today. Peloton app available through free tier or paid subscription starting at 1299 per month. My kids loved the Jackass movies. They loved them so much. They were obsessed by them, and then they tried to do some of the physical stunts. Let's just say I'm very well versed in ER language. My
Starting point is 00:00:47 kids had 28 concussions. Yeah, you know Knoxville that coming out, he got offered SNL. We're going to talk about that, but that coming out was so breakthrough, so crazy, what he was doing. And I loved it so much. I was like so jealous, you know, to see how cool it was. Well, the other thing he did great, and I can't remember which movie it was, but they put him in prosthetic makeup as this... For all bad ground bars of the... Yeah, and he was really skilled at that. And I assume a lot of it was improvised, but it was...
Starting point is 00:01:21 That made me envious. I would love to be in prosthetic makeup out on the street kind of annoying people Yeah, and letting them step on your nuts Like he had his nuts hanging out all the time from his shorts and then he had a primitive Bicycle installed it was called a hooter clamp And so he had definitive consistent pain on his testicles all the time so that when he would get on the set to do jackass he wouldn't feel like what scared at all. So he also had an electric shock therapy apparatus Jesus called a zone vest and that would give him just small little kind of pin I'm making
Starting point is 00:01:58 it sounds like goddamn right. So I love this element of I'm so glad I was around for this part of show business, shoot the rehearsal, look at our hair, be authentic. It'd be like Frank Sinatra coming out, takes off his two pay, Dean Martin comes out, they do a breathalyzer test on him. You know, you wanna see, I wish, behind the curtain. Behind the curtain, that was the name I wanted
Starting point is 00:02:24 for the thing, but you went with the bug. You want to have I want to hide in that why an insect why I know you hated the part about the fly in the Well because it's the word fly kind of grosses you out right? Well, I I haven't met a Person who's like you know what I really like like puppies kittens and flies you know what was really an underrated animal the fly like Insect no You know what? It was really an underrated animal, the fly. Like, is it an insect? No, don't you watch the planet Earth? Look at a clip from planet Earth where they say, no, it's a filthy fucking bug that hangs out on turds. Right, and not necessarily walls.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Right, so, but we, you know, so we made that up and we saw we had a razzmata. Razzmata is good. Don't write me a letter. Remember razzmata has this going to be was a deal. Remember Razzmata house is gonna be one. Oh, I liked that one. Yeah. Cause it's sort of vague and nothing. And that's showbiz.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Oh yeah, that's showbiz. I thought that was great. You like that too, didn't you? Well, how did this piece of shit squeak through? Piece of shit squeak. Yeah, you could do that if you spelled shit differently. So it's like, hey, piece of, every through for a while there was like, that could be a title.
Starting point is 00:03:26 It's like, I remember one I thought of a so fucking stupid. I can't remember. But, well, that's like working on your eight by 10. When I came into Hollywood in the 80s, I just meet people like, yeah, I've been working on my eight by 10 for about eight months. I've got, are you right? Are you right?
Starting point is 00:03:42 No, I've been working on that eight by 10. So like, just sitting around for days, trying to think of a pithy name. Oh yeah. It's kind of like, you know, I did a corporate day once for a car company and they drove me out in a go car or I drove a go car on stage and stuff or you come in in a gurney and I go guys, I got to do an hour stand up. That buys me like six seconds of goodwill that I came in in a harness, legs in gentlemen, and that's like 10 minutes later. It's like, yeah, you're at, yeah. Believe me, I have a special coming out,
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm looking at it and watching the editing on God damn. Anyway, we should get back to Johnny Knoxville. What was the team, sorry, to finish the thought. I'm just woke up. What's the name of the special? What's the name of the special? Fly on the stage. I know, it's such a good time. fly on the stage? I Know
Starting point is 00:04:27 That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. All right Johnny Nox The thing I've heard this morning Fly on the stage No Johnny I was just telling Dana that's Dana and I'm good, David. Um, that uh, Johnny, welcome to the most casual podcast you'll ever be on. I'm, I'm, I've been excited about this. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Johnny, this is called every question you've ever been asked and you're going to get us again. Not literally not. We want to study Howard Stern all the other shows and we want to ask identical things and I'm going to comment as Howard throughout the interview. You don't have to think this. You can just check out for the next hour.
Starting point is 00:05:10 You guys were great on starting the other day. Oh, did you see? Yeah, yeah. I listened to it, stirring constantly. But I heard you guys show and you guys were great. Did you like that I kept trying to leave? I kept going, all right, Dana Howard, thanks for coming by and he's like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:05:28 I go, well, it's an hour 48, what are we doing? I need some mystery. The David's production company is called One Foot Out the Door. I don't know if that means anything, but he's always kind of wanting to leave. He's a little fragile and he's, do you have a zoom?
Starting point is 00:05:44 You have a light in your face right now, David? No, I look good. You do look good. Anyway, yeah, you did out, sir, did you get in there at 530 in the morning, kind of thing, too? Yeah, yeah, I got up at 530, was there at 560? I know, I'm so spoiled. I never have an alarm at this point in my life, so it freaked me out. I was up at 34545. Every second I checked the clock. Whoa, yeah, yeah, when you know you have to wake up,
Starting point is 00:06:08 it gets in your head. Yeah, he would text me, a sternum would text me, go, I wouldn't sleep if I were you, better be fucking funny in the morning. I go, God damn, what is it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, let's get to it. Uh, Philip John Fass is my real name. Well, mine's fucking Gary Garneria. Black. Mine's Dan and Dan Agarno, and I switched at the day in a car.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Dan Agarno was my stage name, and I hated that early days of stand-up. Please welcome Dan Agarno. No, that's as everyone said it wrong, right? Oh God. Yes That's a tough one, but clad that sucks. Johnny Knoxville is that's a cool name that goes off the tongue nicely Johnny Knoxville. It's very nice. I was gonna be Scotty Scottsdale And then everyone said nothing will make you cooler and as an said, all right, I give up. His other is a website is called Prennial Senior. I don't know what that means, but for me,
Starting point is 00:07:10 you, you're always the kid. I don't care how old you're old. You're old, but you'll always be the kid. You'll be boys. You're like Johnny Carson. Johnny's so excited. He's like, I hope they just never asked me one thing. This is going long enough and I don't want to answer anything.
Starting point is 00:07:21 No, I can listen to you guys all day. You're folks so funny. I have some sort of like before we get to SNL, a couple questions. Yeah, yeah. So like Jackass, huge in our family, love it. Kids, two boys, had a few injuries, not blaming you, but it was, it was, it was BMX skateboard, but they love Jackass so much. And I just wondered if for you,
Starting point is 00:07:48 how did Danny, he thinks he met them, did he meet them? I think I met them with you one time, Dana. You met Dex, yes. You remember you was you, me and Pat and Oswald. Yeah. At the 50th anniversary of Paramount, and we took a big photo. Yeah. Yeah. Where were you standing? Like everyone in show business was in these bleachers. Oh, I was in one of those.
Starting point is 00:08:12 They bumped me from the next one. I don't know who I was standing next to. Montel Williams. Yeah. I got up in the stands and it's, you know, it just Merrill's dream George Clooney. It's everybody and then I'm next to Billy Bob Thornton and he Billy's so Accenture he goes he goes you're the one I really wanted to meet. I'm so glad you're next to me. I go really not Jerry Lewis Right, he's the he's the coolest Yeah, that was a real thing Kurt Douglas was there The attacker the superch chin was there and he was He was really funny and just
Starting point is 00:08:52 Talking so much shit Very rebellious and funny But it was life we were in boss because when I would look at old photos black and white photos of in Boston because when I would look at old photos, black and white photos of movie TV stars from the 1940s to 50s, I knew they were all dead. There's a certain darkness to it. So I said that to Billy Bob Thornton, we're just going to be down on a hallway and we'll be long gone. He goes, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:09:15 We were really into the darkness of that photo. Right, right, right. Hey, I have a peppier story. Johnny, I did this, I did this. Same fucking picture, I think. And it was for Paramountsount's like 90th right so I think they do them every 10 years So I squeaked in on one and it had It had scaffolding so it was like on the Paramount lot and they met you in a holding area and I didn't believe that Everyone in the picture was it was 90 stars right is kind of what guys did. Yeah. So everyone's a big fucking monster star.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I couldn't believe it. And they were all there. So I go in the holding tank and we go to get a drink and they go, oh, we can't serve drinks because most of everyone's old and we have scaffolding. And I'm like, fuck, what a buzzkill. So luckily Spadoodle-Doo has two Jack Daniels airplane bottles and his sock for emergencies.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Right. So this was an emergency. So I get up there and I'm getting on the scaffolding. It'll do, has two Jack Daniels airplane bottles and is sock for emergencies. So this was an emergency. So I get up there and I'm getting on the scaffolding. It's Jim Carrey, Sharon Stone, Michael Doug, everyone, the same thing as you guys. I think Mickey Rooney, Dana's buddy was there. So anyway, I get up there and Harrison Ford is some, for some reason, down the scaffolding from me.
Starting point is 00:10:21 But while they're like loading Liz Taylor on a crane or whatever they're doing, I'm sitting there and then I have my diet coke, so I'm gonna get my little Jacques Daniels out and have a little nippy nip. So I go like this, you know, I snap the top out of my sock, I go, and Harrison Ford's ears go up like a laboratory, I go, oh, like a doberman, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:42 and then I go, oh, and he looks over any walks over and he goes, you got any more of that? And I go, I go, hey, this is gonna trend. This is great. So I go, fucking, first of all, Harrison Ford is the coolest dude in the world. So I immediately are excited to talk to him. He's just like nervous too.
Starting point is 00:11:00 He's like, time to kill. He goes, you got any more of those? And that's when my star fucking collided with my alcoholism and I go, no, it wasn't even a contest. No, I'm so alone. Went home empty. How can you believe it? He had a solo coat. Bill and Bob Thornton got me a beer. Same thing. Oh, he did? Well, we had a little cocktail afterwards thing afterwards. Then I was so struck by Jane Fonda. She was leaving and I tried to get a selfie with her and her whole being collapsed.
Starting point is 00:11:29 So, she was listening. I'm really sorry about that. Billy Bump Thornton said, you like another beard? I'm like, okay. And then I go, Jane Fonda and my wife's such a fan of hers. And so anyway. Right. Well, let's focus on Johnny Fonda.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Not Johnny yet. I, I, I, yeah, Johnny, we're gonna have too much of Johnny not Johnny yet. I I dream yeah Johnny We're gonna have too much of Johnny in a second. So I go here's my little drink and I go gluggla glugg and then I look down the Scalfling when I solely felt the second one and I think I see him lift his fedora up and he looks at me and he's like Shaken is had like you mother fucker because I had another one Oh or fucker, because I had another one. And then I go, oh, yeah. Sorry, but I didn't know that. I don't know that I was at another end of that. Okay, then I know it just kept going.
Starting point is 00:12:09 But anyway, so then I think we worked it out later. But anyway, back to Johnny. Johnny, my question for this as a father with kids, like I was terrible at watching my kids go down on a skateboard down a giant hill. My wife could look, I couldn't look. One of my kids we named him the heart attack kid because he was, you know, they, there were 23 ER visits. They both had five to six concussions, multiple fractures. They're fine now. They stopped. And I just wondered, are you, when your kids running down a hill or
Starting point is 00:12:43 looks like they're going to fall, are you just like a normal parent or are you, when your kids running down a hill or looks like they're gonna fall, are you just like a normal parent or are you so acclimated to stun? So you're like, oh, I've seen someone fall downstairs. Steve O did that, that's no big deal. Or how does that, that's my question. Yeah, I'm oddly enough a real helicopter parent when it comes to safety.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Like, for me too. However, my sense of humor is and how I deal with them is one thing. But if they're on a swing when they're a little or climbing on the monkey bars, I was right under them. And I know, that's just how I am. And I guess I know how, the last thing I want for them is to get hurt, right? Because you've been hurt and you know.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So I like any appearance, but I was a little more cautious with them. Right, I didn't want to be captain know all the time, you know, so you're sort of like, it's okay, that we're okay. They're in a homemade tree fort above a street, climbing around.
Starting point is 00:13:42 So I tried to control them too much. I had a sense humor about, they bought me a book when they were like 10 with mom and it was called Worse Case scenario, like how to survive a bumblebee attack and an airplane stuff like that. So it became kind of a runner that I, my imagination gets away from me
Starting point is 00:13:59 and I was very protective in that way. But not to prevent 23 ER visits. Anyway, David. Yes, Johnny, you gave the right answer. I've got a question and answer thing right here. And that was the right one. You passed the first question. Second of all, when you do this, first of all, I love Jack, he's growing up. And I wanted to hit you up, you know, I see you out and about sometimes you're always very cool. And I wanted to hit you up, you know, I see you out and about sometimes you're always very cool and I wanted to hit you up in the early days because Jack has looked so fun.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I wanted to go there and then I realized, I'm such a colossal pussy, there was really nothing I could do. I can skateboard a little bit, but I thought, there's no stunt, I couldn't do the full circle skateboarding, you know. David, you can't be good at anything. That's the whole idea. You know, we're. David, you could be good at anything. That's the whole idea. You know, we're not gonna have you,
Starting point is 00:14:48 if you're good at something, you are not doing that stuff. Oh, I like the thinking, okay, good. I'm like, I can skateboard good, we'll put bees on your dick. Well, that's it, you can do all that kind of stuff. What's that? You can do all that kind of stuff,
Starting point is 00:15:03 requires no skill to have bees on your dick. No, no, no. All you gotta do is a lot of my stones, all I have to do is stand on one spot or hold on to something. I've really narrowed it down to those two things I do good. But like, people that we bring in like most of the time, like celebrity guests, they don't, they can just be peanut gallery. They can just be fun. We won't go out. Some people we make a decision not to go after. We'll have that discussion before. It's like, okay, we're not going to go after it.
Starting point is 00:15:32 But like in this case with Eric Andre and Tyler the creator and machine gun Kelly, Jeff knew them. And I was like, Jeff, do they get the full treatment? And he's like, kill him. I'm like, okay, they get the full treatment? And he's like, kill him. I'm like, okay, they get the full treatment. Yeah. I like that that you talk ahead of time, because you have to, because sometimes, uh, celebs types are a little more frail and fragile.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Uh, it physically and ego-wise, so they wouldn't love it. Uh, but if you know them a little bit, uh, how to take it. Like, I, I've, I've, praying people, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I kind of, because it was making my other friend laugh, and it ended up hurting his feelings, and he was just confused. I'm like, okay, I can never go after civilians again. Yeah. I felt like a monster. So there's a very hard line of people I will go after, and people I won't. Yeah, because in the movie, when you, it looks so fun, and everyone laughs at the worst pain it is, they just laugh so hard, and they they're also like used to it. Like I think in the movie that guy is it Aaron? Aaron gets a lot of it in the movie. He always gets a lot of it. He's like the whipping board. He's a very important part of the show. He's
Starting point is 00:16:54 like the nail with the slameal, the slomile. He's the slomile. That's what I was thinking. But he, when you, I think Dana's on to, he wears a cup and then they try to test the cup and they rack them in the nuts. They have Nagano, UFC guy, Punch him in the nuts. I thought more that would break his whole cervix or whatever's down there, I don't know, hip bones. Whatever's down there. Whatever, I don't know, I'm not some doctor.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Yeah, but down in me. Oh, and then they did, the worst was the pogostick, because it's an inexact science. And I think it, and then it's sort of bleeding, now does he have an essential nervous system? I'm like, this guy keeps, I go, this is the same guy for four in a row, a softball pitcher, a punch,
Starting point is 00:17:47 and then the, the, the, the, the, the, the Pogo stick was just like, hey, fuck it. He's not getting hurt enough. Let's just, we don't, that on the same day as the softball pitcher. For some reason, Jeff and I would schedule these things on the same day. So he was taking a lot of trouble.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And there's a cut of the pogo stick bit that seven or eight minutes long, that is hilarious because the peanut gallery is just murdering Aaron the whole time because we've been filming with them all day and we love him, but he has a way of setting everyone off and the peanut gallery was just murdering him. And it was so fun, but we had to cut it down just for the film.
Starting point is 00:18:26 But yeah, Aaron gets gold. Aaron gets gold, but. Yeah, he does. I mean, for the purpose of your movie, he's great. And I thought you would be more like sign felt and just sort of be in there and out and let the craziness around you. But after a little bit, you got in,
Starting point is 00:18:43 and I said, oh, good, he's getting in, which is tough because we're all getting older. I don't know your 80. I have no idea what you are, but you're 72 this month. You must, I'm fragile for absolutely no reason, but you have to be fragile because you just got your ass kicked over and over and over for work. And I think that you still do it is cool. It's hard, but I'm sure people might want it and you have to do it.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Do you feel like that? Do I have to do it? No, God help me, but nothing is more fun than filming Jackass. And yeah, I did take some shots in this film. And also, I backload my biggest stunts till the end of the film. So I had like three big stunts left to go after the bowl.
Starting point is 00:19:30 But after the blow, just, you know, I broke my wrist, my rib, I got a concussion, a brain hemorrhage, spent the weekend in the hospital, took me a couple of months, three months to come back online, really, in my head. So we had to cancel all the rest of my stunts. So it's like, I didn't get to take as many shots as I wanted, but maybe that's good. ¿Qué pasa? ¿Qué pasa? ¿Qué pasa? ¿Qué pasa? ¿Qué pasa? ¿Qué pasa?
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Starting point is 00:20:25 are becoming more global in 2020-22. What I was curious about is the... David mentioned the word fun. I mean, I don't think I've ever seen people that joyous in the world, like after the stunt... In the world. Well, the loudest
Starting point is 00:20:46 Sustain laughter. I think that's the flip side to jackass as if the guy doesn't massive it and it's just Massively hilarious and fun and jumping around and screaming. So it's joyous Right, you know a lot of that comes from sometimes it's it's really funny and sometimes we're doing something really dangerous and a lot of nervous energy comes out and everyone's laughing. It is everyone, even though we're giving each other hell and people get, you know, have PTSD and, uh, everyone loves it. Even though they don't know what's going on and I'm just killing them all day long, they love it. Yeah, well, it's such a fun thing with dudes and that's why it works. Everyone laughing is all fun. I mean, even movies like grownups, when people say if they like those movies, it's like, oh, you guys are buddies and you're all goofing around and we should have had a half-hour
Starting point is 00:21:37 blooper reel at the end because that's the stuff people love, you know. Yeah, because if you're having fun, the audience is going to have fun. It's just like watching someone on a talk show. If the person's on a talk show having fun, then everyone watching is going to have fun. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. My last question for Jack I said we'll talk about it as an L was a machine gun scarecrow machine gun Kelly. I thought you could have made him like a scarecrow and put him out because he kind of looks like a He has a definite Ray Bolger Put him out and have real and tie him down to a thing and make all the birds come take that
Starting point is 00:22:14 But I guess hi down Then it's just then we can do any number of things to him You know once he agrees to that you change it. Yeah, yeah, okay We'll we'll tell him it's about birds But as soon as he's tied down we can do anything we want to him But he is a tall lean man Yeah, he took a good point. He's Lanky. He's the definition of Lanky showed up And he's got a tattoo of the skull and Jack asked skull and crutches on him
Starting point is 00:22:39 So it's like if you got that you're getting the full treatment Yeah, he got a good smack and I love when when it's never, when you think it is, and that's the funniest part, you set him up for a different bit and then something else happens on the way, which is great. Yeah, this is my last question before I go to SNL. And I'm sure you've been asked this, but like my son had showed me,
Starting point is 00:22:59 a long time ago, the one about the guy gets that, puts the toy car up his butt. Yeah, yeah. And that was so huge in our house and all over the country. The way it would play it out, it was played so straight with that doctor and everything. Do you ever like, do you ever get ideas for stunts and then you reject them out of hand even to yourself? Like, it's like, what is rejected?
Starting point is 00:23:21 When you're like, oh, we could do this to this guy and then electro shock him there and then tie it and hang him up. Do you ever kind of go, no, no, no, that's too much. You don't you like, oh, we could do this to this guy and then electro shock him there and then tie it, hang him up. Do you ever kind of go, no, no, no, that's too much. You don't even pitch it. Well, I write most of my ideas by myself and then I'll pitch them to Jeff. But in the room, terrible things get thrown out.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You know how okay. A brainstorm session. You know, funny, funny in the room terrible things get thrown out. You know how okay. A brainstorm session. You know, funny, funny in the room things that you'll never repeat to anyone. Just like comedy writing with murdering air in some way. You know. That poor guy, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:58 So yeah, a lot of shit gets thrown out. It's just we know it's and we're not gonna do it. But sometimes if it's and we're not going to do it, but but sometimes if it's so far over the line, but it still makes us laugh, we'll try to figure out how to do it. And sometimes you can reel it in just a bit here and there and it can work. You start by saying, okay, they're naked. Now what? Yeah, yeah. Always funny here with their cock.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Goddamn, I would never show any. Yeah, first we take a sledgehammer to their balls and then we do them take go down the gauntlet. And within the day to month, the worst one was probably for me to watch. The cringiest was putting the queen bee. Where did you hide it on his weiner? Like you put it under his jacket. Yeah, I put it under the shaft. I put it under the shaft. I placed it under the shaft. You.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah. I think where that is. Exactly. And the Queen Bee is like this. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Come save me. And then he let's all the bees out. If people haven't seen it, then all the bees come immediately
Starting point is 00:25:00 in the guys' dick. And I'm just like, that's the one where I go. I can't even, and he's getting stung and stung and screaming. It was Steve, all right? Yeah, yeah, Steve, he did do meditation, and he thought he could like overpower, you know? You know, he told me that before, I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 00:25:17 we'll see how that went. Okay. And we'll report you. She's, how did it, oh. Did he get paid in teeth whitening? Anyway, you got some big teeth. Well, they're all fake.
Starting point is 00:25:28 He's got some tooths. He has a new set of teeth in every film. Oh, he does have great teeth. I have an entree question that's very generic for to begin our discussion about you and SNL. What was more terrifying, being on the rocket, going into the water, whatever you're most amazing amazing or being on the bull in the latest film? Or coming out as a host what what was your nerve factor when you can John in Oxfail or
Starting point is 00:25:54 Cool that or is it usually people you don't do that well. How'd you feel? Yeah? I would definitely rather ride the rocket or stand in front of a bull Okay I would definitely rather ride the rocket or stand in front of a bowl. It was very bracking because I have a fear of speaking in public, right? In the audience, I was like that really freaked me out. And it's SNL, and it's not something that I do a lot. It's hard to figure out. You don't really know what you're doing, problems.
Starting point is 00:26:27 No, because I didn't. And I remember we were going over some bit and I was talking with Fred Armason and he was really sweet and helped me a lot. Is very nice. And I'm like, I don't know kind of what to do here. And he goes, you don't know kind of what to do here. And he goes, you don't have to do anything here.
Starting point is 00:26:48 It's like, it's, it's, it's not about you in this one. It was, it was focused on the, I was like the straight man. And I wasn't realizing it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Just little things like that. Um, but that calms you down a little bit. If it, the, the, the funny is like happening around you and it's funny or if you say stay straight. Yes, stay straight. Like, don't.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So there was a little of that trying to get used to that. And the rehearsals helped me a ton. Everyone was very supportive. I know a couple of bits that I did that. that I did that I wasn't really doing that well and the rehearsals and, you know, Lauren gave me a little pep talk before about the cream will always rise to the top or something. I don't know. Oh, no, terrifying. Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh, so I'm down here.
Starting point is 00:27:39 There's cream and there's a top here. Why would you? Yes. You're going to bring it up. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's almost nothing you can say. It's just because coming out for the monologue, Dana and I are stand-ups. And when we go back and host that monologue, even I'm sure Dana would agree, you're like, heart speeding like, shit, man, this is so different.
Starting point is 00:27:52 It's so loud when you come out. That band is so loud. And everyone's going crazy. And you see they have a jib camera come in and you're like, shit, this is it. But I will say it's fun to bring it up because you're like, you're like gym camera come in and you're like, shit, this is it.
Starting point is 00:28:07 But I will say it's fun to bring it up because it goes back to Don Pardo. But your opening monologue descended in the cast doing a prank and it ended up with Don Pardo kicking you in the balls, right? No. But it was at the first sketch. Set, my ears was out there next to me.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And he was supposed to hit me in the balls at one point. Okay. Like in my monologue. Right. So I got the third word. That was his, that was his, that was his signal to hit me in the balls. But like three words before that, I hit him in the balls. And I absolutely smoked him. And he just wasn't expecting it.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And he could barely perform the next scene. It was just a perfect hit. Wait a minute. He's only in much power if it's in the right spot. You go on the show and because of Jack Cass, there's going to be a lot of people getting kicked in the balls. Now, so Seth Me Myers was not ready for it Or you just you did or you didn't he wasn't
Starting point is 00:29:07 We're implying or how did that or anybody I was gonna do it, but I thought it would be funnier if he wasn't prepared I hit him Holy shit, and I was right So you So not telling anyone you go out to host SNL you're not telling anywhere the secret plan He's gonna kick you in the balls, you preempt them, and then he's kind of, he's out of it for about the next 10 minutes or the next sketch.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah, he was really, he could barely walk to the sketch. Oh my God. Oh my God. I've done it. You've been ever been looking for your keys, you go where and you tap, you're not wrong and you just drop to the ground and go call work, right? It was I'm gonna wear a cup. We're gonna have dinner some day, but I'm gonna wear a
Starting point is 00:29:51 You guys are safe. We're safe. Okay, but so Don Pardo I Miss right was doing a deep dive this morning. He did not do a fake kick to you Don Pardo No, that was set Myers Myers getting. Oh, okay. God, the web, fucking web got it wrong. I think confused Don Parto. Because I thought it'd be so great. Oh, I love Don Parto kicking the nuts. Kick in Johnny Knoxville!
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah, yeah, it would have been incredible. Was it a knee or was it just a, like, a hand tap? Back of my hand in full. Like, I could feel the outline of his cocking balls on the back of my hand. He was a perfect dot. I didn't want of my head. He was a perfect shot. I didn't want to brag, but it was a perfect shot. So, can you do mine is to go into more detail like what is it?
Starting point is 00:30:32 What you felt in the beat? That was kind of, you know, I see a few pieces. He's been a little evasive. He's been to the left as I struck him. Yeah. Did you hurt your hand at all? Was he semi-a-rect? Just being excited to be out on the show or?
Starting point is 00:30:46 No, but there was probably some swelling afterwards. Okay. That's good. Now, Johnny, you're a professional too, because in the movie and the show, sometimes you just have to get someone, and so you know what you're doing. So, you had one take.
Starting point is 00:31:01 By the way, that never happens on the show, something that is really unexpected like that And I'm sure it was talked about after you love yeah, that was at the after party that's nice I'm sorry crotch. Hey, thanks a lot, man. Hey really sorry. It was just it just got away from me I don't know why I did that know I said it's okay. We're cool. We're cool, man I'm really good at fast stories Did you remember anybody in that cast that cast that you got along with you said, I think you said Fred Armason just now, that was, so that was, I'm trying to picture the era of, because
Starting point is 00:31:31 you know, cast changed a lot. So that was Fred, you said was there and so ratio, sans, ratio, okay. Rob, Riggle. Oh yeah, I did a scene with Rob Riggle. Amy back. So it might have been around the same time. Oh, Amy, okay, who scene with Rob Riggle. Amy back. So that might have been her on the same time. Oh, Amy, okay, who's doing update, do you remember? I don't have no idea.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Would have been Tina, maybe, 2005? Yeah, she's still there. Would Jimmy Fallon? And it would have been nicer to me. They were so supportive. Yeah. It was a scary experience, but it ended up being like a totally positive experience in my mind. And it's something about like it being live, it's just like getting in the
Starting point is 00:32:09 boring. It's like, okay, this is what this is what I'm doing today. And you you just the train's going by and you jump on it. Yeah, and then you're up. That's not really fast. I cogn that, you know, in my mind. Yeah. And when you host it, just for our listeners, flies on the wall, once the show starts and you're the host, they take you, like they grab you, like after a sketch, if you have a quick change or to get ready to go,
Starting point is 00:32:39 they kind of, you know, you're on autopilot in that sense. There's nothing else you can do. And how did you handle the cue cards? Were you okay with it? Did you try to fake it? Or did you have a technique? No. They said, read off the cue cards.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And I totally agree. You guys do this more than me, so I'm gonna read off the cue cards. Once you pick an eyeline and stay with it, it's less disturbing than going to the person to the card back to the person. Yeah, you know, especially in a over the shoulder shot. So I may have made that mistake once or twice, going off the car and looking at the person
Starting point is 00:33:13 because you kind of want to make a connection with them, but it honestly looks better like they tell you just read off the car. Yeah, I feel Hartman had a great technique, sorry David, where? Because you have three sets of cards if it's two people talking So Phil would kind of pretend to sort of look away. He'd look behind himself just for a second casually to get get the line Over his shoulder and then come back at you with it There was a lot of technique when you're a cast member to not get caught Yeah, you know, yeah, but you get a host there talking and then come back
Starting point is 00:33:43 Because they won't be on you. Sometimes I think the host is always in black, but you have to have different colors for the people at home. So everyone knows who's talking. And sometimes right before a scene, I'm like, Sandler, are you green or blue? And because I don't know which, what does my guy say? Some of a professional actor.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I think I was red for all seven years. I think I was, you can recrast and they go, oh, you like to be this and then there's seniority. Well, my heart was, it was John Loveitz's car because each letter was, you only had one letter on each car. Mr. McGoo was doing the best he could. You know, Farley had these Johnny's glasses.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Loveitz is like the air in the key of SNL. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Are you jealous? I'm funny. Because I was told, John, you know, you're funny, Naturop, you don't have to try. Really, there's a lot of thought behind it.
Starting point is 00:34:38 When did you turn to May, West, motherfucker? I don't know. Are you asking to see me? Are you kidding? Acting, but no no he's the funniest So Yeah, I was saying the farly wears glasses just like yours Johnny and he would go on update He'd squint so much we gave him so much shit that we go just wear glasses. Nobody gives a shit
Starting point is 00:34:57 And then he'd wear glasses and squint for no reason. We're like are you just used to squinting? Do you know what squinting is and what it's for? But and we're like, are you just used to squinting? Do you know what squinting is? And what it's for? But I don't know what squinting is. So when you go for it, we'll get into some basics. Now, this just go, just bear with this, Johnny, cause I'm older. You do, is you doing the, before you got offered us,
Starting point is 00:35:24 now you were doing some form of Jack S, was you getting electrocuted in the, in the Nards? Is that what was it, your first bit, that's first bit I saw. You're standing in the wall and someone's hitting you with a stun gun or something? Yeah, I did an article for Big Brother. It started as an article where I was gonna test
Starting point is 00:35:39 self-defense equipment on myself. Pepper spray, stun gun, Pazer gun, and I was gonna shoot myself in the chest with a 38 while while wearing the bulletproof vest. And Jesus, you have to remain who you ended up directing Jack asked said, we should also film it too. And we'll put it in the skateboard.
Starting point is 00:35:58 The smartest thing that's ever happened. Smartest thing. Yeah. So that was your audition tape. Yeah. And I was your audition tape? Yeah, I guess, I guess it didn't. There were different factions that came together and it's it's it's it's a story. It was a long process, right? Where you do that and then you do it a little more and then it catches on. You do some more and then that ultimately gets to Lawrence desk or somebody. We did a couple of skateboard videos, right, where I was doing, like, it was a skateboarding
Starting point is 00:36:30 magazine. And I didn't really, I'd known Jeff Wilde and Wunder right for the magazine, but I didn't skateboard, but I found my way in by doing stuff in the videos and writing about, you know, like participatory journalism type of thing. And then Jeff and I talked and we're going to do a show and he goes, I went to school with Spike Jones. Let's see if he wants to be a part of it. And Spike came on board and we had the footage from the skateboard videos, right? And we cut a little 10 minute tape. And we took it out and
Starting point is 00:37:05 shopped it around and MTV and Comedy Central showed a lot of interest. And at that time it got to SNL, got to Lauren, the tape that we made. And I met him at the Polo Lounge at Beverly Hills Hotel. I was just waiting tables six months before. So you cleared a table by reflex at the point like the head of show business now. Right, the president of show business. I'm sitting across from and he's offering me three to five minutes each week to do what I do. Yeah. And it's real. But we were pretty far along. We were getting ready to shoot the pilot.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And shit. Do I go on a establish show? I'm open by the way, I'm so lucky that he offered. Do I go on a establish show where I'm probably not gonna have a lot of control over what we're doing? Or do I kind of bet on my friends and me and my friends. And I ultimately bet on me and my friends and it could have been a disastrous move, but I felt like we kind of were on to something.
Starting point is 00:38:20 And it's got to be hard to turn down Lauren. It's got to be tough because it's such a big deal It was brutal because it's so flattering. Yeah, yeah, it's such you feel like an asshole It's probably going to fail what we're doing is probably going to fail and I'm gonna regret Michael's but it would you would you've been able to do what you do or I mean there's some NBC standards But was it you and and your squad or was it you to me and you know yeah tough one I wasn't going that's not as fun me yeah so I don't have Jeff you don't have Spike I don't spike squint yeah Spike has been so instrumental to tell it is right just yeah the ground beginning because
Starting point is 00:39:08 Jeff and I are just two dogs, but you get spike Jones involved and it's like all these two dogs might know something We didn't know anything, but we got respect because of spike. We got agent because of spike again the dirty because of spike spike has been so, you know, contributed so much to the films and TV show over the years, just. Sure. Well, the aesthetic, and I don't know
Starting point is 00:39:32 if you guys talked about this with spike, but you guys are out at lakes and rural areas. It's never shot to complicated. It's very reality show vibe, wide shots. And, you know, it's, that that added to it the authenticity vibe of it. Right. Well we were never was slight. Thank you. We're trying to decide in the beginning like because we were doing skateboard videos which it looked exactly like Jackass right. Mm-hmm. They were shot exactly like Jackass because that's all we could do. That's how we could shoot like this
Starting point is 00:40:03 because we knew how to do that. Very simply. Like a cheap look kind of thing. Like a hook band that only knows two or three ports, right? This is what we do. But Jeff and I were talking like, what do we, do we have a like a, do we do I host from a desk and then go out to the street
Starting point is 00:40:20 to do certain things and we talk to Spike and he's like, no, he goes, you're goes, you're already doing it. It should look like the big brother videos. Got another great idea. Yeah, of course. Yeah, because that would have ruined it if somebody went in and slick-assized it and made the, too many angles.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah, but we didn't know. So it took Spike to go, you're already doing it. Yeah, well, I checked up your celebrity net worth this morning, so I think you made the right choice. Ha ha ha. I don't know how accurate it is, but it's very healthy. Those things are never accurate. I know, I know, you never know.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I'm just, I'm taking, you know, but I do think that people come in and do films, short films. I don't know, it's a little bit awkward. You're outside the cast and you bring your thing in. I don't know, I think that's kind of a tough position. So I think it made the right decision, but in order to bring you in, of course, and get in the next two.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Yeah, because that's a good eye too, because to see that and see how interesting that is and how it could be cool, because I was hooked immediately, and you get Spike who I think has done some Beastie Boys videos and obviously a bunch of cool things and have a starkness to it. And whatever the vibe was just that it works and it worked on all levels. You worked. You being out there. I always thought you were a skater. I was always wondering if you were a skater. Yeah, I skated like when I was 13 to 14 broke my ankle my dad just took my skateboard and tossed it in the woods because I was gonna miss baseball
Starting point is 00:41:50 Right, right baseball is my sport growing up in the woods Was there five feet away Literally five feet away Literally 5 feet away from that. You know, in Tennessee, we had a movie in my backyard. You know, it was so nice. Love Tennessee. Love Nashville. By the way, I did talk to Lauren during that time.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And I said, really, Johnny, who knocks for what? What do you think? You know, all the kids love it. It's sort of pranks. It's physical. And I think it would be really good with like our young demographic. And Johnny seemed like a really nice man and we're gonna like fucking bring him in.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And I go, I don't know, he's heating up on MTV. Mike Dana trusts me. He knows a good deal when he sees it. And then after you took MTV, he was really mad. No, I made that upside down. We're gonna put honey on John Lovitz's nut sack and just let the bees go to town maybe out of skunk, you know, it's up to him Yeah, love it's just going to sit on a phallic shaped Is nuts when they walk on the monologue to your episode in 2005 and it's like happens to the best of us as far as
Starting point is 00:43:02 What you can do in this universe and 2005 you had You might be a gay redneck if was one of your sketches. Oh the Jeff Fox worthy thing Yeah, could could we do that now or explain that or what that was you might be a gay redneck if You might be That was one of the sketches that I had trouble with in rehearsals. I thought I was doing fine, but apparently my rhythm was not good.
Starting point is 00:43:39 And it took me, I don't, did I do that sketch? Did that even make the show? As far as what I read it, Tibet, maybe it was was only in dress were they asking you to do kind of a Jeff Fox Where the twang is that what the character? They wanted problem. It's just I Couldn't get the rhythm down and it sounds moronic to say that but it's you know Comedy stand-ups timing in my timing I couldn't I Just couldn't Grasp that you know sometimes
Starting point is 00:44:09 It's embarrassing to admit but What was your first time it took me 80 shows to get my rhythm down on that fucker, you know So yeah, go ahead David and when I did a Jeff Fox where they once and and it was a combination of You know you have the red neck and then he's got the way that he does it and I think they're trying to emulate that and so I was doing the same thing We're like do you go up at the end you go down then I was I was you might be the Ebola virus and it was like If people see you in run There's a good chance. You might be the Ebola virus.
Starting point is 00:44:46 If people look under a microscope and see that as I go, and I'd give a long description, you might be, there's a good, you know. So that was the same thing. It's like you have, there's a couple different components to it, not just a voice like your Southern,
Starting point is 00:45:01 but your Southern might be a little different than his Southern and then how his rhythm is, how he does it to match and those things they look for. And then I've had impressions taken away from me during the week. That's right. And they give it to Dana. I didn't mean to.
Starting point is 00:45:22 You licked Horatio Sans face and Versace mother. I Don't remember that I could watch him other instead. This is Johnny's hosting gig from 35 years ago And I'm asking him to tell me right now. No, I remember Duke's a hazard I remember I ran see that one Duke's a hazard I remember he was in that movie Yes, well, you've had a pretty big film career, too I ran and see that one. Duke's a hazard, I remember. He was in that movie. Yes. Well, you've had a pretty big film career too. There's been a lot of movies besides Jackass.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, I'd like you to have feet in both areas, but... And the Special Olympics one was edgy. Could we do that now, but it was very funny. I read the ringer, I remember reading that. The Olympics were on board. Like that movie wasn't it got made if Tim Shriver was not on board with it. Good. Yeah, so I'm proud of that film. I stand by it.
Starting point is 00:46:15 One of my son's favorites. You know what? I think Johnny, I read that movie. I think what happened maybe, and you know more, but maybe just on the surface, no one saw it or bothered to see any messages or anything nice about it, they just said, oh, you can't do that. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Because if you watch it,
Starting point is 00:46:34 you know, it was sweet. And of course, we went for it as far as comedy goes. But you had to, the kind of samurai get the message out there. Yeah. So I mean, I made so many great friends on that film, you know, Eddie Barbernell, who was in John Taylor, they both appeared in Jack S. 3, two of the guys. Eddie Barbernell is like a Borsch belt comic. He is so funny. When you do, Jack Sreet, do you audition these new people? What is that process?
Starting point is 00:47:13 We reached out to people we knew mostly. And we brought them in too. The Jeff and I talked to them. Brought each cast member in to talk to them. Because at the end of the day, we have to get along with you. We like to, we have to like having you around. That's the biggest hurdle to get over. And then we did a two day test in December 2019, despite Jones to his credits, like we're older now,
Starting point is 00:47:40 how's this going to look? Is this going to look sweaty? We not only need to test the new people, but we need to test the old guys to see how it looks. And so we did. And that's how we tested the new cast. We just shot it like a film for two days, did about three or four bits a day,
Starting point is 00:47:59 and a lot made the film. So that is a hard part of it. Is a hard part of it like because you don't want people to submit. You don't want people getting hurt. You don't want any legal problems. And I'm sure people say they'd be good. They'll do anything for you. Like they just want to be in it. They'll do anything and they'll and you gotta be careful of that. I can be careful with those people because it could look a little dark. I mean, someone yeah, like I will do anything suddenly. I, they're in the hide against, right?
Starting point is 00:48:25 It's not as enjoyable to watch as a viewer. Like, if you watch the B thing with Steve O, and he's not hailing and screaming and terrified, it's not as funny. If you're just standing there like a big deal, there goes the comedy. So we have that. That's the human part.
Starting point is 00:48:42 We're very honest about their emotions. Yeah, and if you find something they don't like, then do that. And also the heavy-set guy that went down the ramp and flew and kept wiping out. He was tougher than I thought. He could do a lot of stuff. Yeah, he's very athletic, exact. Yeah. That comes. He's done some really naughty stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And he's one of those guys that would have done anything Jeff and I asked. And that's a lot of responsibility to have over someone. And Jeff even took them aside one day, we're shooting somewhere. And there was like a 60-foot platform up there. It was unrelated to us. There's a big one platform 60 feet off the ground. And Jeff's like, hey, Zag, I think for this next bit, we want you to jump off that platform. And, you know, we'll put some... Into a cup of piss. Yeah. We'll put some mattresses down.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I can work there for you. Yeah. And he got so upset, he got so sad and scared because he's like, I'm going to do it. And at first I was going along with Jeff trying to be, yeah, we need you to do that. But I saw that he was really going to do it.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And I just walked away because I couldn't, I couldn't do that too many longer. But he was definitely going to do it. And then finally we let him off the hook. Like we're not gonna ask you to fucking jump off of something 60 foot high onto a mattress. Well, I just go over the cactuses. Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Some of that stuff where you think it's too much, flying into the cactus I thought could get in your eye. You just never know. I mean, when the guy that went down the slide and you covered his arms, you know what I mean? And the oil slide and then he, I ride, ride, ride, yeah, oh air. You're late and you couldn't, you could snap your head.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I mean, my God, I go, you just get go you just get lucky like ah, everything's okay. Yeah, I was in the hospital. Why they filmed that I really after the bull yeah, and we had another bull bit to do that day I was gonna do two bull bits But after they took me away in the ambulance none of the guys are like Fuck you. We're not doing anything with the ball. Yeah. Ha ha ha. It feels kind of like a, it's,
Starting point is 00:50:51 there's a rhythm to it, you know, it's almost like sex, it's like there's anxiety and dread. Then there's fear and pain, and then there's resolution and laughter and relief. You know, each set has the emotionality of these three quadrants. Are you in spike aware of that when you're editing it? Like, there's so much anxiety and dread. Now we've set it up and now we're going to show, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:14 Because it really, really works on an emotional and funny level. Paicing is, uh, is has a lot to do with jackass because you don't want to put too many like gross bits in a row or too many big stunts in a row. You got to have if you see something gnarly or you got to have a little palette cleanser after that. We space everything out and we have to space the cast out. You don't want too much of this. So, racing is something Jeff and I and Spike really focus on in the edit. Like there's a little bit, which is just a little bit of dialogue
Starting point is 00:51:46 more than a stunt. It's like, like, might end in something small, but it is a little palette cleanser. I like that. I like that. Also, the guitar, the crunch of Narenair, whatever is another genius, just one more thing that makes it work.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Yeah, thank you. That song though, if you listen to it, it's so different once the lyrics kick in. It's just a beautiful, like, whisper song once the lyrics kick in, but it sounds just like some hillbilly hodown at the beginning. Yeah. It's something different. The parts you use are high-quality. Johnny, there's, sorry, I was just... Now, I had a question for Dana. David, I just said, interested a little bit, and just you being from Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:52:31 and you have some manner about you, that's very sort of country, and it's very polite and sincere, and I just want to, you know, just something about the culture of Tennessee. I'm the only Tennessee person I do as Al Gore, and when I do him, he's a very earnest and sincere man. We're gonna do better because we have to
Starting point is 00:52:51 with climate change. And so you have kind of this country. I'm not saying Dolly Pardon, but there's a sincerity and likability about you. Anyway, I'm just observing as I've gotten to know you. Well, thank you. That's very kind. Dolly grew up about 20 minutes from where I was.
Starting point is 00:53:07 So, have you ever met her and hung out with her? You know, this is how I have social anxiety sometimes, right? So, I was at Yamashiros. Oh, yeah. In Los Angeles. Oh, in LA. Yeah. Yeah. It's a restri- sushi. Yeah, and Ellen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:25 It's a restri... Yeah, it's a sushi place. And Dolly Parton walks out of the bathroom. And I just... It was like 10 years ago. And I just froze. And I'm like, I didn't want... As much as I wanted to meet her, I didn't want to bother her because I'm sure people grab her,
Starting point is 00:53:47 she walks out of the bathroom all the time and I just couldn't do it. So I froze up and I've regretted it ever since, right? But I get real social anxiety sometimes. And yeah, so that was my challenge. I do that to people do that. I think that's a polite way to go. You sometimes kick yourself, but it is that's a polite way to go. You sometimes kick yourself, but
Starting point is 00:54:06 but it is probably the most polite way to go. It's to yeah, let them be. Yeah, because you know, you have it both ways. But if you saw her and she can watch you, it'd be fun. Like, you know what I mean? Like I wouldn't I would yeah, I would yeah, I don't think any of us, normal people, until your brand or something, I know how do you attach yourself to your own celebrity. I had a masseuse once in Malibu in the 90s, and she was massaging Bob Dylan.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And she said, Bob Dylan said to her, that I've never, I've never cut up with my fame. You know, he's just, he's just Robert Zimmerman and you're Johnny Knoxville. And so, but to me, you're just really famous. And like, before she go talk to Dolly, but I get that, I don't ever think I'm a famous person. I don't have no, no connection to it at all.
Starting point is 00:54:56 And my wife reminds me if I do, you know. Bob Dylan and his zingers, I was born very far from my home. And I was just trying to get back home again at the beginning of no direction home. Oh yeah. Yeah, he doesn't quite do that. I love his later stuff. I love his, and I love when he does do banter with the audience, some of these bootleg concert
Starting point is 00:55:18 films and he does just the worst jokes. Hey, did you hear about the man who had five penises? His pants fit him like a glove. It's terrible. Anyway, here's like a rolling stick. Here's blowing in the wind. Finally, my mom. I don't want to do that. That's notorious. I saw Adele.
Starting point is 00:55:38 She did. She was actually funny. I saw Lionel Richie. They both were doing jokes between like almost every song, but they were working and I was like, God damn They have a better act than I do and they have their singing. Yeah, so Does jokes and they're amazing. She has such a great timing. Yeah, she's a charmer. She hosted SNL too and this was probably I don't know 89 or something she says she says yeah, there's like a little boy Lies about 10 miles away from me. And I think someday he's gonna host SNL.
Starting point is 00:56:07 So what's his name? It's Johnny Knoxville. I go, you don't sound like Donald Martin. No. Yes. No, I made it up. Sorry. God.
Starting point is 00:56:17 God, we ruined him. Well, I can only know who he am. She for sure knows who you are. Who doesn't know who you are, Johnny? I mean, but know my wife when I first someone asked for my autograph and my wife who I've been with since 1950 she She goes oh, you're famous now. It was so epiphany like yeah, you mean all famous people are just people They're just somebody who got famous. He goes oh, you're famous. Wow you You're famous. That's unbelievable. I go. Thank you dear. No, she's listening like I'm just a guy from my town
Starting point is 00:56:50 I'm just kidding Everyone is just someone from somewhere because they go. Oh, I'm just from Arizona. I'm from Tennessee But it's very rare that people are just born in Beverly Hills famous, you know They're always coming here. They're everyone's from somewhere, so they don't they never quite believe it's happening. All right, we should let Johnny go. I think he's been a good sport. He's Johnny. Are you on a press junk? Are you got five hours lined up?
Starting point is 00:57:11 No, he's probably done. He's almost gonna launch. Yeah. I do NPR next. Oh, you do. Yeah, they're exciting. They're exciting. It's good. You're ready for bees and balls questions.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Johnny Knoxville will be joining us next on TV. Oh, second. Why you wear glasses? Why? Anyway, give it away for the heart of hitting. I'm sure you're ready for the heart of hitting. The panel's Mr. Knoxville. Why the red flannel in the dark glasses?
Starting point is 00:57:39 I need to know. Can you show the audience your penis? Can you show a few seconds? Can you show a few seconds? Can you show a few seconds? Can you show a few seconds? Can you show a few seconds? Can you feel a piece of the plastic punishment room where we will spray with things until you pass out? Hi, I'm in my ring finger down your P hole. Let's give it a shot probably I broke my penis once I got and I had to catheter for three and a half years afterwards. It was with the catheter like you should forget to take it out like bigger than a number two pencil.
Starting point is 00:58:10 And I'd have to jam that down the head of my penis sick. I hit my bladder. So you could probably get a triple A battery or your pinky in there. We'll see. Fuck you. Happy every day you wake up then and you kind of, oh, maybe gets coffee. Oh, I don't have a pencil up my dick. God, that's so good. Absolutely. But after you film a jackass, like for me, it's like, I got to the end of film and
Starting point is 00:58:34 I'm like, I'm still walking in. Yeah. I'm very, and I'm not even trying to make a joke. That's how because you go into it like not knowing how you're going to come out of it. And it's such a relief that okay, I'm still walking, I'm still you know, have control of my faculties, semi. Is this your, is this your, is this your monologue, my dick? Is this your last fight before the Thurilla and Manila? Or is this you, you don't know yet? Well, I think we could do another one, but if if so, I would step back and try to sit next to Jeff behind the camera because I can't, like I've unfortunately seen my last,
Starting point is 00:59:14 you know, got in with my last bull. I think, do that. If you're out there laughing with everybody, I think it's okay. I think if you're still part of it and you're laughing and you're setting people up, I think as long as you're in the mix. I would love to volunteer to be suspended by 300 foot crane,
Starting point is 00:59:28 nothing physical, just suspended by one foot and kind of swing me over time square or something. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm available, but I want a really tight knot. I mean, I want to be really detached. I'll do a show with you for ABC Family called Jackas Juniors and we have little kids We just push them into trains and wall
Starting point is 00:59:56 But it's funny. All right, we're gonna call it Ask Jack. I have a show called Ask Jack We're no one gets hurt and they just have lunch Talk anyway, it doesn't show called Ask Jack, where no one gets hurt and they just have lunch. It's a talk anyway. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's called Ask Jack's delight. It doesn't matter now. My agent will contact your people. Anyway, Johnny Knoxville loved hanging out with you.
Starting point is 01:00:15 You're a great guy. You're always nice, quiet, in person, nice dude. I want to see you. Very cool. And thanks for coming on. It's a pleasure. I really sincerely appreciate you having me. Thanks, guys.
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