Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

The endlessly multi hyphenate Lake Bell joins Dana and David to unpack the mysterious origins of her name, dive into the art of voice acting (including working with Dana on The Secret Life of Pets), pull back the curtain on how award shows and after-parties actually work, and talk about her latest HBO series, The Chair Company. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You're being by a thorn, you know, and you're like, okay, you know, and you're just like, what? Okay, I'll add some spice to that. Give us a couple different versions of that. So Lake Bell, the lovely and talented Lake Bell, who, uh, Lake Bell. Starring right now in the chair company with Tim Robinson, which is just an absurd, funny, brilliantly off-kilter abstract.

Right on my alley, right on my alley. Yeah. And, yeah, we talk about her name. I mean, it is her name. It is kind of the coolest name you could have in show business when it's not made up, Lake Bell. You definitely need a hooky name that is a great short. Yeah, just four letters, four letters.

There's just something. It's like a movie, jury duty, you know, just get like boom, boom, and it helps. She's also been in it's complicated. She's in so many movies. She's sort of woven in where you just go, oh, right, she was in that one. She was no strings attached. There's old movies, new movies, TV shows, and director. Oh, she was in Secret Life of Pets with Moire.

And we talk all about that. And she's, what's interesting. about her, I think, is she's got a whole lane of getting hired to do things, and then she's just producing and or directing them. Constantly. And that's by design and very smart. Then you can kind of show business is less emotionally violent when you just like doing your own work at the same time.

Yeah. Any time it's just waiting for the phone to ring is tough. That's the hardest part of the show business. Anyway, here she is a lovely person, Lake Bell. Bell rang soon. Is that her? I'm, yeah, it's her.

I don't have any idea what she looks like. Is that her? Oh, my God. No one. She looks like, well, it looks like, well, it looks. Gorgeous. And I do what I can. I can't believe this.

I'm just so glad that this is working. I am too. It's amazing. Wait. As soon as I heard. Here, let me put this here. I feel like there might be a compliment coming, so keep going. Wait, is this?

Do I need to have these on? Yes, engineer. I think so. I know that you hate it. Everyone hates it, but I think it helps. Doesn't look cute. We had this hockey player on, and he didn't have him, and we couldn't talk over him because everything stopped.

We have to wait for someone to talk to him, which is what you should do. The hockey player's name was Wayne Gretzky. All right. I didn't even say that. I'm not trying to flex. I don't want to flex. I don't want to get handsy.

I don't want to have these phrases exist. The latest one is slop. I hear it a lot. And it's slop. Slop means just massive content that is just slop. It's just people love to watch Slop. You know, 7 is done. Did you know, did you hear about that?

Who's done? Six, seven? No, no, you know it's done. Oh, you didn't even, were you not aware of 6-7? I was, but I'm glad it's over. I heard the two numbers, but what was it about again? The thing's heard of the two numbers. I heard the two.

He's heard of. I had it when I was in, no, I remember something like 6-7 was a code or something. What was it? It's like it was like a meme or something. And then somebody said it at a kind of sporting event of some sort because I also asked the question to my children. and I have teeny tiny children that are right in the 6-7. Do they know about it?

I hear about it all the damn time. It was a hot Christmas gift was a T-shirt that said, 6-7. Oh, no, no, no. But apparently the adult. Thank God it's over. It's over, right? It's over. Okay.

I have, oh, I was going to say, like, because you're also a director. Do you feel like a- Wait a minute. She's an author, people who don't know Lake Bell, because I did kind of look you up a little bit. preparation, author, writer, director, actor, and voice actor. Yeah. Am I missing anything?

I mean, I'm a mother, which is my... Oh, I'm most job of all. Well, like, as a director, is this too wide on me? I feel like it's showing too much of my whole body. I do feel that we're getting a lot of the wires in the backdrop. You could punch in. Oh, that's true. I'd like to do on an 85.

You mean over here? I've never seen those in my life and you saw him in one second. Let's come around if we can for a two shot and then just pan and lake. Yeah, let's just cross cover. Can we cross cover? And so what's your happiest place in your creative world? When you're writing your book. I guess we're doing it.

We're doing it. We'll start and not start. We don't really know what we're doing yet. But is that kitchen real or is it like a crack drop? Is it cool? Yeah. I'm in my office and it has a kitchenette. So there's a...

Oh, somebody invested well. God, the rich get richer. Whoops. Can I have a kitchen? I've ever seen anything like this. Who lives there, Bezos? Okay. His muscles live in the other room and he lives in that.

Guys, come on now. The kitchenette is great for making... If it has ETT on the end, that means it's not super huge. Kitchenette makes me happy. The word makes me happy. If you're checking in kind of a B-level motel and there's that kitchenette, it just seems relaxing. I feel very relaxed and welcome if there's a kitchenette.

If you're in a guestroom has got a kitchenette, you're like, I've made it. Because it really gives you that access point to, you know, the world is your oyster. You could make a, you could make a tea. You could microwave a piece of toast. Yes. If I'm on the road, I go for residence in Kitchenette. And then you don't really leave as much because you go, I can kind of handle shit right here. And you don't add an omelet.

Have you ever made an omelet in the kitchen and just thought to yourself about the main kitchen? These are fewer questions. About the main kitchen as you're flipping the oven. You know what? Fuck the main kitchen. You know what's fun of the main is that's where all the like funky mugs go? So I've got like a very, I love mug. And I like a funky mug.

Like, you know, a don't mess with Texas or like, you know, you go to, like I have a mug, a dentist gave me a mug once with like a big smile with braces on it. Like, what a mug, you know? And it's like, I like a good, like, you know, it's like you travel somewhere and you get a mug. And I, all of the good funky mugs live in the kitchenette. The main kitchen, she's curated. She's got a real point of view. there's a visual

And that is where the funk And you also don't want to mess up the main kitchen So it's good to come do some dirty work in here So I just want to make a quick note Right rap song called funky mug Okay Yeah, okay, good Well, mugs, I have a great old

You know my best mug is of all my goofy ones Larry Sanders, it's all faded And why we got that Must have been like a gift bad at the end, I don't know I love it Because Mark Marin, he gives a mug I'm just saying you guys smart. We don't the objection. I was on a show. I don't remember getting a mug.

Oh, they just to special people. No, no, no. You have to, you have to, you have a bone to pick then because those mugs are excellent. And I, I do ceramics. So, like, I've got mugs. I've got mugs. You do ceramics too and you write your automotive thing? I can't, your resume made me tired. What are you doing? What? Do you take a nap every day? I mean, look. I do. Oh, listen to this like Bell. That's interesting. When I was going through your extenuous resume, is that a word? And it is now.

Golden Arm. And guess who, well, we don't name drop on the show. John Hamm hit me out of the blue. And I go, John, I'm looking at your goddamn name on this stupid IMDB. And he was so effusively positive about you. Isn't that nice? Yeah. He's great.

I think that is nice. That makes me feel good. I do think I'm generally like nice as a person. I mean, would you? I've seen you out and about and you're always very friendly and very light. And I think I like the word agreeable. How is this person? They're agreeable.

You know, they're easy. Yeah. Yeah, I would say that. I would say. And she's a laffer, I think, if I remember. You like that. Yeah. I will give a good laugh.

Like I feel like that is a quality that, especially within comedy, it's nice to have people around who also will give it, give a laugh. Right? Yes. Yeah, because if you're stiff and sometimes you just want to be the funny one, it's always nice when other funny people laugh. Yeah, because, you know, when you're standing in like a group of comedy people and every, Everyone's each other. And they're being really fun. And they've got a little, they've got a little turned up side grin because they're thinking, I'm going to say the next funny thing.

Oh, I'm going to carp at the school in my head. Ooh, I'm listening to what he said. Okay. I'm going to. And everyone's thinking, what am I going to say next, you know? And it can be kind of like sweaty. I don't know. I don't like group shows.

I do some dates with David. I don't like it. It's 19 comics in a green room. What could go wrong? Yeah. It's like a comedy competition and I don't like it. The guy who, the man or woman on this podcast who laughed the hardest is kind of interesting. It was Larry David.

I think I heard that episode. Yes, I was hearing that he was a great laffer. And I thought, I love Larry even more for that. I know. He's so brilliant. And then he's sort of like he curled up a little ball and he was red face and he fell out of his chair. It's very interesting. But our guest today is Lake Ball.

As any of ever met another lake person first name? Yeah. So it's interesting because when I was growing up, it was so bizarre. I mean, people were the amount. Can't get their head around it. They could not. They were like, this is not okay with me. Whoa.

What? You know, and I had a story I would tell people that my, you know, my parents were hippies and I was in a lake and they thought, oh, let's do it. And that was not at all the truth. I'm from Manhattan. My dad's like a Jew who eats the felt the fish. And my mom was like, you know, a kind of red war and peace while working at Sotheby's and was a model. You know, it's like. The bees. Yeah. Lake is a cool one. But you have cool names for your kids. It's like a movie star name.

And, you know, I mean, it's very memorable. It's really tight. And the big L and the Big B, it just, it has a lot going on. Four letters, four letters. Yeah, four letters, four letters, two nouns. And then I think I saw it on a lot of like signage when I was a kid. I always wanted to be an actor, but I was like, oh, it's already up there. So fucking we're halfway there.

It works. It works up there in the big time. Yeah. Lake Tidicaca. Like, you know, that. Now we're talking. Leg balls of plenty. Remember that one in Winnipeg?

Oh, God, really? I don't know. Winnipeg. I just went off Tidicaca. You're right. Yeah, yeah. And then there's Lake Superior. I always would retort with that when people threw me with Tidicaca or an Erie.

Yeah. The admin Fitzgerald took place on a lake, I think. Yeah. I mean, listen, lakes are of great import. They're much more robust than a pond. No one's name Puddle, is that? they're rare in the western U.S. You were called puddle?

Yeah, my stepfather used to call me puddle because he's like one day maybe he'll grow into a lake. Oh, that's cute. That's cute. It is not hard to destroy a college. Last season, the podcast Campus Files brought you stories of fraternity drug rings, stolen body parts, campus cults, and more.

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in promotion so you're recording these huge like even TV TV shows or movies where there are these animated like larger than life characters and oh my god their repore must have been terrific ask you on the junket they say you know was it so fun working together did you guys have a blast the chemistry that's a perfect junket voice what you just did

Tell us a little bit what it was like to work with Dana Carvey. Dana must be nonstop laughing. You're like, well, his booth was two doors down in four months after. I don't know. I know. One time on Hotel Transylvania, we did it. Oh, a couple of people remember? I heard some applause.

But we did it all in the same room. No, you didn't. They quickly found out it was a horrible idea. We were doing like scenes and we're all talking. it was Kevin James and Adam and we're like blah blah blah and we're just going through like scene after scene and then we go we'll do some pickups and we did everything again by ourselves well by the way then it goes back to the like green room a bunch of comedians in a green room you wouldn't want to record an animated you know show us that way because everyone's thinking

they're going we're so funny did you understand David because when I was in the two I wasn't quite sure what my character was doing. Yeah, I didn't connect it to any. I didn't even understand. I just knew that was the line. And they directed me, but you get kind of lost. You just came out of a cave and you're all wet.

Yeah. That's what it's like. And then when we did that one, Emperor's New Groove, it went three years. I did it. And so at the end, I'm like,

I don't even know what's going. They go, you can ad lib, I go, I don't know what the scene is. I don't. We're like, you're falling. falling down, yell, scream.

I like when they go, right before you leave, let's get some ooze and ahs. That's the best. Someone's step on your tail. The industry term is, you ready? You remember, they're like, let's get some efforts. Oh, efforts when you're falling down a hole. This is just for people I've probably been spoken about before, but it's an interesting thing about doing voice of our work here.

Behind a glass, you're in a booth. you're seeing like 10 people in front of you and they're straight-faced and very serious and you go all out with your take and there's a delay so you're still looking at an oil painting and then you see them like they're laughing three on Zoom from France

just you can't hear them like this silent laughing and thumbs up and you like that one they go one more yeah it's so awkward I mean I do I do a poison ivy on harley quinn for dc it's like a that's right yeah and they that is all kind of improvise oh look at him he read um the resume oh notes um oh yeah we got sure if necessary i didn't think we'd need them much with you and it's working out beautifully so tell me about you're that character

on harle well i just was going to say like in there they really like the improvisational vibes oh okay Yeah, and of course, you're alone. So you're, sometimes I have the director read with me just so that I can, I don't know. You know, it's like you don't know how to improvise with nothing, even though I've gotten really good at it. Where you just are like, I don't know, can you give me an idea of where we are? And they're like, okay, so you're in Gotham. And it's kind of like, yeah. Yeah, it's sunny.

Kind of like a brothel, but like they're all made of plants. and like you're being fucked by a thorn, you know, and you're like, okay, you know, and you're just like, what? Okay, I'll add some spice to that. Give us a couple different versions of that. Yeah, that's great. Look at your sleeves, though.

What's going on? Yeah, so we've got it. That's a bit of a... Like, don't worry about it. It's like... Plymouth Rock, I mean, sort of a... It's called fashion and I'm not involved. It's kind of a pilgrim village

that's trying to make friends with Native America. American look. It works. What color is it if you had to guess? What color? Yeah. I think it's dark green. It's actually dark.

It's navy with black, which is my favorite combo. God, more proof I'm colorblind. What's Navy with black is your favorite color? Yeah. I love attention. Don't hate my jean jacket. I like what you got going on here. It's hard doing this, right?

We're all looking at ourselves. We're looking at our guests. I don't like it. I'm going to just, how do I don't go off my. It's impossible not to. I think on Zoom, I know how to just go, and then I get rid of my face. And the problem is we're all actors. We're all looking at ourselves.

Like, what do I look at? Look at my face. I'm only looking at me the whole time. I know. I see you. I don't even know like John. Spade has never looked at me or you. I don't even know what Dana looks like in real life.

He's not sure of who our guests is today. You've got a hair light. You've got a back light that's cute. Yes. This is a new thing like that you should incorporate into your movies direct because this was a happy accent. I like it. It was a light behind me because it was so black behind me.

And then it kind of glows up the hair. So I said, hey, they do that a lot of. Yeah, hair light. They call it. But you do that. So it's just like a little crest of like. It's not bad.

Yeah, it's pretty. It's quite elegant. Is mine poured on a little hard back there, but I don't know. Maybe it could go down. It's a little celestial. It's a little angelic, but I like it. It feels like they could kind of fly away. I mean, there's a sense that they're, yeah.

Some of these, these are like. French. I think it's very French. It's a one-way street. Once they jump out, they're not coming back. Yeah. Can you go away? These airs.

I've got a bit of a mulling. going on. Do you, like, do you have a team if you go to an award show or something? Yeah. Do you have a team? Oh. You have a good team? Oh, honey's girls. Girls. Girls, I have Oh, please. Girls, you have no idea what kind of team I have. One of the greatest teams. No, I do. That's good hair, though. You have to. I did my hair today. I'll be honest for you, for you gentlemen. It's great. Thank you. But no, I do. I do a team, but I have to be honest with you. you going to when someone goes, hey, like for instance, golden globes are coming out and, oh, you know, you're going to go to the thing on Friday or whatever.

You know, and I, the amount of just pomp and circumstance that I need to go through just to get to the fricking party, I'm like, I don't even know if I can afford to go to that party. Yeah, that's true. Make up, styling, car, you know, because I can't just, you gentlemen. can throw on a cute. Sometimes you're like, who do I bring? Is it just about myself? Yes.

I go alone a lot. I actually go alone. I kind of been enjoying rolling up. Because you run around so much. Usually just go to someone for base. You're like both talking to people. You come back, say hi, hey, what's going on, blah, blah, and then you go.

Oh, you have some. You both have a different people. Yeah. Yeah. But if you don't, it feels weird sometimes to be constantly in motion. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, leg bell. Nice to see you.

What's up? You have 10 seconds. make a connection. Hey, Lake Bill, how you doing, man? Everyone calls her Lake Bell. Hey, hey, it's Ms. Bell. How are you? I have three seconds. What's up? Let's have a profound moment. I mean, I've seen, you know, I recently went to a thing at like the Chateau or something, and I saw a fellow person who was going through innings. I have an early problem, so I get places way too early. Good. And like, I was early for this podcast. And, and I have, an ex-boyfriend who actually told me that, you know, who was like, you're too hot to show up this early.

Like, you have to be very late. You have to, like, yeah, it's not okay. And I thought that was very sweet. That is true, but I do like people that just get things going because it's so hard to be cool and wait. It's so hard. I don't, guys, I'm just, it's like, I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's like because I don't have ADHD because my daughter does and my son does. but I just can't, I get there way too early because I'm nervous I'm going to be late.

So it's probably people pleasy, I guess. I don't know. It could be tactical. Like I like to get there early so that I can leave early and go, hey, I was here. Hey, that's true. You know what? Yes. Great.

You can kind of see people come in and it's not as overwhelming as walking to a packed shit whole place. It's bumper to bumper. And you're like, I can't even get to the ball. I can't get this. But I will say, I like this going gloves thing. Because first of all, if you go to a party for, let's say, it's the Golden Globes. Now, a party is almost as bad as an effort as a look for going to the Golden Globes.

It's pretty much around the same budget, around the same everything. And now, if you go to a party, you have to think, am I going to go to a party Friday, a party Saturday and Sunday after the show? So three looks for a female, right? Whoa. Do you do your hair three times? Yes. Is there anything you save on the... There's no saving.

Okay. The only thing I would say is that I style myself right now. So that has been kind of fruity because it's like an art form, right? Yeah. Like I'm a visual person. I enjoy this shit. So like I'll get a go. And so I buy the only the only thing I splurge on is like I, you know, I get shit that's secondhand.

So I like buying consignment. Oh, cool. Yeah. And vintage. I just, it's like fun. It's like finding in a, you know, it's like, I watch those guys with the metal detectors who like look in dirt and find things. Like I can watch those. Find your dress.

Yeah. So that's similar. It's scratching a similar pitch. Inside, inside baseball. But I don't go to a lot of watches. But the last time I was at the Oscars, whoops. You walk out in the red carpet. just for people listening.

And then you stand there and then there's a wall of people screaming. I mean, they're waiting for Timothy Chalibay or, you know, Jody Foster or something. And there's just wall of people screaming at you. Do you pivot and kind of smile and they're going, like, like, like screaming, like just a whore? And you pivot, do you have a face that you put on. Can we see it? I do that. I do this.

Okay, good. Okay, here it comes off. Here comes off. Leg. Lake, like Bell, here, here. Here, here. I like this pleaded pants out. Here, over here, over here.

You're not supposed to see this part. Are those purple? I'm not even going to guess. No, no. There are another shade of blue. You know what's cool about you is that you don't, you don't, you're not sweaty. You don't seem to try. You don't seem to care about being a star.

I mean, you're one of those celebrities that just sort of, if there's a coolness factor to that, you're not needy. Are you? I'm not thirsty. I think of like a working actor. Like I feel like, you know what I mean? Like I go on the subway. Like I go to the group. That's how I see you.

And also you ride and direct and do all the other things. But a lot of people live or die by this, how their heat as a celebrity. It's like a really huge deal. You don't seem to. It doesn't. It doesn't. And also I have two little kids, right? So, yeah.

Oh, mom. And I, to boot, I have kids that have. had some heavy shit happen. We know about your book, and I thought it was, I read some of the quotes, and they, they teared me up. It's like, the way you couched seizures was so beautiful. I mean, you're a great writer. Thank you.

I think that the context of that has always, you know, I've had kids now for 10 years. So it's like, all of it, even when I'm directing, and they're like, we lost a little. location. Oh my God. We're freaking out. You know, it's going to be, you know, everyone's, the actor's going to be so upset. We can't. Oh, my God, I don't know what to say. And I'm just like, this is a cool job. Like, we're good. Like, I've seen, I've held my, my, my, both of my children in different states of, are they dying or not, you know? And so I think contextually, I'm like, we're going to find another location. Yeah, we're going to be fine. It's a movie, you know.

It does put it in perspective when you go, there are a lot worse problems right now. I wish everyone wouldn't freak out so hard because we're wasting freak out. Also, for all the time that we just freaked out about that, we could have been like, you know, like, let's see what's across the street. Let's see, can we talk to, let's talk to. And it's funny, they always figure it out. They all, you always figure it out. So I'm like, see the movie. You don't see a fucking blip.

No. And frankly, just if we're talking inside baseball about directing for a second, it's like, often time. there are moments where, okay, you did lose that location. And then whatever, or like we have to reshoot this scene because of blah, blah, blah. And you're going, oh, my God, I can't think of a worse piece of information for my editor right now. But whatever it is, it always ends up kind of exactly as it should be. It's always great, you know, especially when you have to revisit something. Or you get a new location and then you just make it work.

And then no one's the wise or the season of the movie. And they go, I don't really care about that stuff. Is the movie working? But also in life, like now with parenting and shit like that, you're just like, well, you know, a lot of the times we come up against moments where it's not as you planned. It's not how you thought it was going to be. This person kind of did this and you thought they were going to do that. All of those expectations are what get in the way of it. If you could just kind of sort of adapt and adjust, I mean, that's what I'm always trying to, you know, sort of teach to my children to do.

the adapt is such a great role with stuff okay now we'll deal with this and then this and really think of life as a kind of a series of problems in a sense you know it's hard to watch kids get so much anxiety also because you go got it this is your worst thing and it's really nothing in the big picture but to this point in your life like high school especially is very hard yes and you go fuck i wish i could talk you down just to say you won't really remember almost any of this problems young people young people are nostalgic for the analog world. I hear this a lot.

And they'll watch Gray's Anatomy like crazy because they don't have iPhones. They don't have Instagram. They don't have. So the toxicity of that, and now you raising your young people through this is a whole other set of challenges. I have a, it's funny, I went and got,

just talking about nostalgia. So I don't know if you guys go to Vidythes, which is a really cool, art house theater in Los Angeles. And also a nonprofit that does that kind of preserves DVDs and VHS tapes. I go and take my kids to go rent DVDs. Oh, cool.

I then bought myself, you know, for the house, a little combo of TV and DVD player. Oh, wow. Right, you plug it right in. You see this is the device it's on. There's right in. Those are already gone. It's crazy.

Yeah. And the idea of not. scrolling. What are we going to watch? I don't know. I've already seen that. Like, this is it. This is what we're watching. We just rented it. We're putting it in. No choice. Called Deborah. And so I'm like, you have to be very delicate with Deborah. And so you press the button on you, wait. Wait. Now, wait. Now press eject and wait. You know, there's a lot of waiting. Put it in. Press it. You know, it's like everything is so.

Or don't push it. It kind of pulls it from your hand if you're going really lightly. It kind of sucks it in. I think it's great. We at one point only had a Blu-ray player when we moved up to this house. And we just quickly bought 10 Blu-Rays. And so I guess we're going to watch The Godfather. And then you're committed to the movie. And it really is when you're on live streaming and watching all these shows.

You're like, I don't know, you're feeling this. Okay. And then boom, you're gone. You're out. Yeah. What is that? It is actually feeding our short attention span, and it's just like, I feel like it's actually flexing and it's flexing a muscle that we shouldn't, which is to just bail, you know. Yeah.

Talk about adaptation and being adaptive. Let's talk about the chair company, a perfect introduction to that, which my wife and I watched the first two episodes last night. Oh, you did? And she did not have to watch the second episode unless she wanted to. And so we both fell in love with it. It's so the reason we loved it and it didn't make us wander is because it's full of so many surprises. It's Tim Robinson and full quirk and you and others. And so it keeps going places you don't expect.

So I think it's great. And it's been picked up for season two, I heard. Yes. You're in a hit. I will say that I'm not really in the first episodes I'm kind of like you know it all unfurls so yes that's what I figured shut up Barb exactly yeah he yells up the stairs like oh my God yeah shut up Barb you know he's so bananas everyone acts like it's normal okay cool yeah that's the thing is I think being a straight man you know straight woman to his really just

chaotic, wonderful, misanthropic, curmudgeonly tornado of a character. So stressed at all time. So stressed. And like shooting with him, he's not like that at all.

I don't know if you know him personally. I don't know. I assume he's not. No, but you never know. He was on SNL for a while. It's funny. Classically did not use him right or something because look at all this shit he's done. It's so hilarious.

But the people's reaction to his, His character and you being one of them is, you know, the laugh is often on someone processing madness that we don't get a chance to us, just viewers from home, you know, like, so you know, I can see how it's, I don't know where it's going, but, you know, I'm going to watch. I'm so excited, you know, for you to, to unfur all the other ones. Yeah. The fact that you're on number two, have you seen any of the- We finish number two. You finish number two. Okay.

It goes, it goes not where you think ever. And I think what I love about the show and being a part of it is that it is unique in its tone. Yes. And it surprises you. There's a piece in there which doesn't give away the plot or anything where he's driving with somebody. And he does a satire basically about live streaming or just non-performative people who make millions of dollars or something.

It's sort of X-rated rapping, but it wasn't rapping. they're just talking. You know the moment I'm talking about? Like that was really surprising. It was just a great moment to put that in there. And it was just really laugh out loud funny. The way the guy's reacting to it. Yeah, it's also like the camera work is so excellent.

Ashley, the DP has such a, well, also I give credit to Andy D. Young as well, just the director who did friendship. People have seen that. And it has such a Sometimes almost like Lynchian Like you'll see it's like It gets David Lynchian is brought up Mulholl and Drive for some of the Reddit people talking about it

Yeah Quirky quirky Yeah and when you I don't know if it's up for best comedy But when you see a comedy that you actually laugh at Which is honestly rare Yeah Well we're all snobs but

When you laugh because it's not predictable And you're and there's something out of the blue throwaway lines right and left where you're like, oh my God. These kids were getting drunk with their teacher at the set and you're like, with their teacher? Like they just throw away stuff that's just so weird and no one mentions it and you go.

Right. And it's like tiny little throwaways that you go. On my birthday. You know, like that was a that's a perfect example of like what? There's no reason. Or a random laugh.

And then everyone just keeps going and you go. Because I've worked with HBO before and I've obviously got a ton of comedies and usually I feel like the the flavor and the general kind of movement of music is like clean keep it clean and then bring it on back and then oh you flood that line go again you know it's like faster you know cleaner tighter and with this I really felt like I was in a a different sheet of music. Like, I, I was not, yeah, it was a different, it was like jazz riffing because there were

moments where, you know, he might flub. And I was like, oh, I see, they're going to use that take. Yeah, they'll keep it because it's real. Yeah, because it felt. And so the kind of awkward, the tension of that is. And long pauses and weird things were, normally they go, can you just tighten that up? We're just got to keep it moving. And you're like, no.

There's books like that. It's just like... You can strangle that comedy in a second with a different director. You completely beat the shit out of it. So I'm envious because I don't think I've ever been in that situation, but I know what you mean. And I think that the genius of Marlon Brando, what a weird reference. He tried to get it ad hoc.

He tried to discover in the moment. He didn't want to be locked in. He'd have the on an orange or he'd peel it and get his line, whatever. To deconstruct the idea of, of it. And then obviously when you're doing takes and you're discovering it real time, like you, Lake are going, this is real for me right now. This is not like I rehearsed it. It does pop and I can feel that. That's what I'm feeling when I'm watching the show, I guess. Yeah, we don't rehearse at all. So only if there was a stunt or something,

you know, but but even, I mean, we'll rehearse the stunt, but we'll never rehearse the lines like before, you know. Clunicewood or Woody Allen, really, you know. Yeah, you'll be in the moment and you'll say it for the first time then. And it makes people good because even those Clint Eastwood movies, they say, when I come to the set, you know, I've had guys that do 15, 20 takes. So you're basically almost carrying your many sides to the real shooting going, well, I know we're not using the first eight. I know.

And which is such a bummer because in comedy, you're like, sometimes things just happen. And now I've got to recreate them because of continuity. And I'm like, if you can just get rehearsal, even it's half the time. It's the funniest because that's the first time it's real about. back and forth. Yeah. Shoot the rehearsal.

Yeah, I always. Yeah, always shoot the rehearsal, right? So I don't even tell them. It's just on. For you as a director, and then you're seeing this style or maybe you've seen it before, does it influence it? Do you try to emulate it or do you do it yourself anyway? I'm really interested.

I mean, I learned how to direct by being in the fucking trenches of a trillion different sets. And how people are operating, but not just within, you know, within the director's brain, but how they're relating to the rest of the departments, you know, and how actors are feeling, you know, with different things.

Ooh, that performance, like, I can tell the way that, the way that director just spoke to this actor, really got that great performance or actually botched it. Like, yeah.

And so we, and also obviously as actors, we're kind of like, I know what I like and what I don't like, you know. Well, if you're tuning into that, which is different,

because most people are just, worry about the lines and the actors are just doing it. If you're adding, I'm tuning into the director, not only talking to me, but how he's dealing with the DP, how he's dealing with the other departments, that's when you start to learn about directing because all that stuff is like you're on blinders if you're an actor. And then you go, wait, what do you even do back here? And there's so many things happen. Someone comes up with two pieces of carpet.

This one or this one. He's like, that one. You're like, okay. And you go, oh, this is for a scene in three weeks they're working on. And there's storyboards. There's so many things to go over. Yeah. It's a lot of work.

I think that also, you know, if you have access at all, for instance, when they say, okay, you can go to your trailer and we'll call you when you're ready. You know, it's like you have the access to be like, oh, I'll go ahead and just get a chair and I'll sit here and just get a tea and watch. I want to watch them flip it over to the other side and see how they do it, how fast they do it, who does what? Yeah. It is quite a rush though, right?

Like when you have an idea about a scene and then you get the first rough cut of it or I felt good, but you don't know. And you go, fuck, it's working. And this is great. And you're bringing people into the edit bay. What do you think? They're laughing or saying this is great. And so that's the rush of the hard work of being director.

So hard. But you work for that. That's the moment, right? Yeah, it's been interesting, like having the kids on sets and stuff where they're looking at it and they're going, oh, my God. You know, I have to explain, this is a scene that will be probably five seconds. All of these hundreds of people are here. We're all, we're, there's all of this work, all these trucks for these five. You know.

Right. That's the funny thing about you got an eighth of a page one day when you go and you go, it's still the same hair and makeup. Oh yeah, yeah. It's still the same everything. Everyone's coming to work. Everyone's coming to work. And it's just to get a look, a reaction shot.

An eighth of a page can also be like, you know, you know, she comes in. She takes her, you know, she takes a tea, she sits down and she calls her mother. Okay, fine. You know, and there's like three lines or something like that. And you're like, okay, I'm going to be in and out for this one. But you know it's not true. Hilariously true. Even I remember those superhero movies.

They said we do about a fourth of a page a day. They're like, the line is like the Batmobile tears through Gotham. And you're like, well, that's going to take a while. That's a week. That's a week. The whole city. Yeah. So that's why little things like that.

You're right. There's some where they'll go in a two shot and you're out of there and you don't even notice it. You're like, oh my God, we're just. we're just going to stay on a two shot. That's great. And then some, you're like, I had no idea this would take four hours. I know. And I try to, I mean, I get people out.

I move really quickly because I do think that in general, I do favor people, you know, two shots and three shots and things like that and like playing it in the wide. And, you know, get two cameras running and see what you can get. Moving masters. Yeah. They work. I mean, it's cool. Because it makes you pay attention if you're the audience. Oh, yeah.

And the actors love. It's love it. We love it when we can come in and just be with each other and exist in the space. Oh, if you ever have to need someone in a movie that I could do anybody, I'll do a Italian waiter or something. But that, you know, when you watch old-timey films, there's a lot of moving masters. There's a lot of two shots moving in and out. Of course, Woody Allen really adapted that. But old-timey films to edit was like spooling 100,000 feet of footage to do one little edits. So they really made sure that now it's in the last 20 years. I know.

I do like cross coverage for comedians, though. Like, we love that. We like to be able to play. And if there's a happy accident that happens and someone says something fucking hilarious, we got it. And we have no response to it. You know, it's like. You're real reaction.

Yeah. Yeah. I had someone do on a movie kind of sabotage because I did my side. and then when they did their side, they changed their lines and did all these things in AdLibb. And I was like, oh,

so I have no reaction to any of this. That's like a little dastardly move. It's really a bummer to be on. I mean, like I've been, you know, I did a sketch show recently and the budget was low.

And so it was like they couldn't do two cameras running, you know? And it was like, ah, fucking A, because it's, you're really screwed kind of.

Because. Fucking A. Yeah. Fucking A. I say to people get a crew of three, get like three actors together, do it on iPhones with maybe one sound person and just give yourself 12 days to shoot. You know, I mean, sometimes these things are so magnificently done and that, but there's no they're there and you're flipping off immediately. Yeah. I think that's why I also, you know, with chair company, it's like you're, there is kind of an economy.

to how, I mean, yes, we had like a full rig and everything. But there is an economy to the visual storytelling, too. You know, it's like he's using zooms, you know, it's like you're out here, you're coming in. I mean, that's just one shot, but it's doing a lot, you know. I thought that show would be a little more low budget, only because it's just a funny guy to, and he was also on what I was called, I think you should leave. And so you just go, I don't know what budget they're giving a guy who's just funny, because I don't know.

I mean, sometimes they would spend on a big drama, right? And so when you see these, they'll come up with something. But it looks great. And I kept thinking,

wow, there's a lot happening here. They're not just, it's not a cheap. Yeah. Beautiful. It's the first show, too. I was going to say earlier,

that it's a first show where I'm, I noticed that in the scripts, like when we're reading the scripts, I'm like, oh, this scene, this whole scene, this like page and a half is purely,

for a joke. No. Or there's a lot of money for one joke. Yeah. In a series, it's usually like, yeah, but why is this paying off for the plot and like for this character to kind of like have an emotional arc in response in order to say something about that? No.

It would be like, oh, we're just like there was this one. I don't know if you've seen the flashback Christmas and this is not giving away anything too much. If you haven't seen it, a lot of handwork here I'm doing. And there's a flashback to us at a Christmas party. It's my Christmas party. I used to be a lawyer. And they cast, there's just a moment where, like, Ron's talking of some guy at the party, you know.

And he's going, hey, you know, get me out of here. And they cast an impersonator for Curly, like, from the stooge. And I don't think he's ever done anything else. Yeah, and you'll know, you'll see it now when you watch it. Okay. So. That's funny. And I remember coming to set and being like, is he doing a, and they're like, yeah,

he's a curly impersonate. Okay. I like some PA. Yeah, he's a, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He just, he just, he just, he just. Just casual. Casual.

And, and then they would do on set, they would have him do this, he was amazing. and him and Ron him and Tim are talking and it's basically him doing this kind of speech of bullshit and he's chatting his ear off as curly and they would turn up the curly and then turn down he would have this actor

turned down the curly and when they turned down the curly it was almost like he couldn't even he like couldn't find his lines you know what I mean he was this poor guy because he's like I do curly, all right? Yeah, I don't. It's curly.

I don't do shades of curly, okay? Shakespeare. I don't do depressed curly. I don't do bored curly. I do curly. He was terrific. And you'll see in it, you really notice it's only for this. It's tiny a flip, but boy, is it good.

But those texture things, even on SNL, they'll have, they'll bring a donkey in and it costs them five grand. And then they'll go, just for a cutaway. And you go, do we need the. donkey for sure but Lauren doesn't even question he goes no I like it they're like go find one and everyone's like oh fuck because it's so easy

to cut it they go that would save us so much $5,000 we should be in the donkey business you can yeah you'll run 20 years from now and you'll see the donkey and you'll like be really really happy that you know it's like when they show like the cold opening and then Lauren comes out and he's like talking backstage during the monologue and behind him there's like

Roman emperors and three donkeys and I never knew that they weren't in the show. It was just like, this is going to be the show. And you're like, ooh, that's going to be a funny sketch. But he goes, oh, I need like an Egyptian backstate. And then just all these weird things. People dressed in feathers. And then it's never a sketch. Yeah. It's just, it's texture. Yeah, it's texture. And it's so funny. And it's perfect. And I figured it out when I was on SNL, I go, oh, those aren't even in the show. I'm so dumb. Oh, Heather's all about the grooms, dude. Spring. All makes me want to hit refresh on my routines, my energy,

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that Lauren is now at home base when the show starts and you come out and kind of shake hands or hug him or whatever. Let's get this one fist bump. And normally you kind of would go behind the slats and then, but I was dressed as Joe Biden. So I had the gray wig. I had the whole thing on. I'd go out and I'd shake hands with Lorne. And then to make myself laugh, I would do a side thing as fast as I could with tons of energy, like jumping and skipping over to behind the thing.

Just to make myself laugh that they're seeing Biden going like this. Before he comes out like this. Come on. That's the people sad. But anyway, after that, that's the matter is. No, oh, that's the poem. And guess what? And by the way, the fact the matter is, I'm being serious right now.

I'm not getting around. Get your facts straight, Jack. That's it. My cheeks hurt. I'm really happy that you're in the cars or not. We're in the cars. I know we're winding up late because she's a good lapper. Well, that was really special.

I feel like I just got like a little. You just got a private show. Oh, good. It's a fun. song. I know. That was a beautiful song. You're a great Biden singer. And, you know, I was at the 50th. And that was

special show, too. And I had never, you know, I hadn't been to the show in a while. And it was like, you know, and sat in the audience, you know, and really tragic to have a little. It's wild. Yeah. And guess who stole the show?

What? Guess who stole the 50th? Well. No. for the writers and was their favorite line of the night when he was in the bleachers going. I got a feel for it. I got a feel for it. Oh, because I left the sketch during the middle of it.

During the big John Mullaney musical. And then I sat in the audience and they go, we're spay. That's funny that they broke the fourth wall in the middle of the sketch. Yeah. Yeah. And the way you did it, like you truly were exhausted and kind of done with it. And they're up there dancing for their donuts and you're just like, you know. Dana, I saw that that. That 50th was won something the other night.

It was critics' choice. I think it was nominated. I think it won. It was best 50th anniversary show. That's a new category. We were the only one up for it. Yeah. Are you,

do you root for any movie at the Golden Globes? Do you have any kind of, I think that person should win? Or I think that movie. Are you one battle after another? Are you a Marty Supreme? Yeah, what are you? No, I, you know, I don't get, I, award season gets It gives me like hives.

I don't know. I just... Here's Lake at the party. Did you think that was good at the lead actor one? And you go, I didn't see any. I don't know the one. Well, you know, sometimes you get anxiety. They say to you, you know, who are you rooting for?

Yeah. Oh, good. I gave you the precursor. I love them all. Well, it's gotten pathetic. I grew up with the Oscars and now there's like 25 award shows. Awards. And I feel like some of them, I won't name them,

but they've got their acceptance. speech and sometimes they can peak at a at the sag afterwards or something then by the time they get to the Oscars they're exhausted with their acceptance speech you got to hold some I saw that sandler didn't win something the other night and I'm like I want to hear sandler's speech oh who's got a good speech what are you going to do because you know he he had a good one at the palm spring oh oh oh how we just do at him from that's a all he says and everyone goes, Ha,

Atabato, get out of here. People would love it. But, you know, anyway, it's a promotion for the business. That's all it is. And for fashion, I guess.

I don't know. I have to say for like, if she, the fact that she's grinding it out and killing it, the duration, it's just hard to stay in showbiz for this long and you're doing a great job.

But you're doing, Very hard to do. She's doing all of show business, though. You're doing every quadrant. You're not an actress waiting for the phone. Did it ring? That's, yeah, that is, it would drive me crazy. I think when I feel sedentary, like when I feel too quiet,

I like to, I think I do like control. I do like to creatively, you know, kind of drums up. And so I'm always writing. I got like. Yeah, I mean, I think this audio book, was very cool. I just looked it up and listening to it inside voices. It was very interesting. Just about she was interviewing people and talking about do you like your voice and how important the voice is and what? Yeah. Well, because I think an extension of my work within a world,

I've just always been really interested and curious about our speaking voice as this kind of falling card for all the histories we've ever endured, you know. And kind of, you know, we carry a lot. I mean, you realize it or not, obviously accents and dialects and a little, like how your vowels come out, you know, my cue that you grew up in Philadelphia or, you know, things like that. But then how we kind of puff out or peacock a little bit when we're, you know, in different scenarios. Like, I'm articulating a little more than I normally do, you know, right now. I think I'm also a little bit lower in my register in this moment talking about this because

I'm speaking more serious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Voices are fingerprints. Sorry. Voice. I mean, you know someone from their voice your whole life.

And even if they age or get it, the voice always sort of recognizable. Yeah. And also it can be really like it can make me crawl too. You know, I have certain. You know, if someone comes in for a job interview, you know, or something like that, I mean, to be a babysitter or whatever, you know, or an assistant. and if their voice, I'm very sensitive to it. So it's like, we're out on that job, Dana.

David has a cool voice. I don't have a voice. I don't have a face or a voice. I'm just neutral. I could go. You could make me a character or make my voice go. Lately, I've been doing Carrie Grant leaving messages for a friend. Just every day they get the call.

I hope you having a good day. Did you see one battle after another? The DiCaprio kids, very good. But you're a million. So that is in itself, your vocal dexterity is like, I'm in awe of that, you know? In two seconds, it changes to a completely different voice. It's fun. I don't really practice it or anything, but I'm working on Billy Bob Thornton in his landman character.

Okay. I didn't see that, so I can't. Yeah, it's another one that's, I couldn't describe it, but it goes surprising places, I have to say. It's totally different than. And your show. But it goes surprising places. And he's just great. In Inside Voice, you know, I talk to like the likes of iconic voices like

like Jeff Goldblum and like where did that start, you know, and like, very more, you know, people who have been very imitated, you know. Yes, very impersonated for sure. Yeah, distinct voices. Yes. And then also. I do Billy Bob and his T-Mobile commercial. Okay.

Let's hear. I'm kidding. He does a T-Mobile commercial where he's like from Landman, right, Dana, have you seen it? Basically, yeah. He's walking out in the desert, come on now, whatever he's talking about. Yeah. You know, T-Mobile's got more, you know, what the fuck's going on here? God damn it.

No, he's, they have the F word too. I mean, that's the same. Your show, just those fly whenever they fly. Or they fly. And they do whatever you, you know. You find, Dana, that like, to get into an accent. or sorry, now we're getting into like my obsession. But like, do you find that you, you have a bridge, uh, phrase?

Um, because I find with accents, dialects, I have like a bridge or a phrase to Oh, yeah. A thousand percent. Yeah. Yeah. You don't just jump in. You got a hook. Yeah.

Yeah. You need a little hook. And for Biden, it was that, guess what? Yeah. And by the way, the fact of the matter is. Come on. And so that got me into it. And then I could kind of talk like him.

But that was a challenge. But anyway, it's always things are coming at me. I mean, Trump's been done forever. You know, I don't know if you guys are aware of that. How many people are doing an impression? So there's, there's, I think Pierce Morgan has a very interesting voice. Uh-huh. And I think that Senator Kennedy has, you know, obviously Bobby Kennedy Jr. I do.

But yeah, there's a lot of people out there. And there's regular movie stars. Anyway, it's fun. But shall we wrap it up? I don't know. I don't know. Do you have any other questions? Because we think you're a.

She did a great job. She's a working mother with two children. Thank you for doing your hair. She writes, she direct, she does. It's not quite the golden gloves. Now, when you do a podcast, we had heard that when we have an actress on, they might not want to come on video because they have to doll up. And I said, I think in podcasts, you catch a little bit of a break.

You do. And, you know, they can want glam. And I was like, I mean, I think I can do the glam. I can glam in my bathroom, you know, with my curling iron. With a banana clip and a scrunchy. Yeah. But I don't know. Well, you're photogenic.

I mean, I'll just say it kind of casually. You really have great features. Yeah. Thank you. It's just, I'm sure directors say you don't have a bad angle, probably. Yeah. I did. Yeah.

But, yeah, it's fine. And I do think we're all used to this. And, you know, I have a couple of ring lights in a window. And I mean, we're all kind of a little more than the early days where it was pitch black and knowing what we were doing. Now you see people. It looks like a studio. Well, I hope I get to see you guys at these parties. Yeah.

I do. I've quoted you often throughout the years because when we did the press junket, you know, it's the awkward goodbye. Yeah. Because we've been hanging out all day with Bobby Moynihan and laughing and stuff. And then it's like a and then you just said see around campus. Yeah, I did say that. And so I used that a lot. Well, because it's kind of like...

It's fun. Right? So let's... We're all at college, basically. We're going to run into each other. We're in show business, which is weirdly such a tiny group of people in the big picture. You know, there's not that many parties or that many comedians or whatever. It's like a little party and you see someone who you don't, you haven't met before, but you both are actors and you both know that your father are actors and you do the kind of like, hi.

You know, that's how I'm going to say hi to you. Like I know. You know, we both know that we know each other. Here's Lake when I see the Golden Glove bar. I go, hi, Lake. And you go, hi, I know you from somewhere. And I go, where did we? Yeah, we just.

Well, the good one in it go, it's so nice to see you when you don't know if you've met them or not. Yep. We have met. Or when they give you a soft hug and you see that they're looking over at a bigger celebrity. They're going. I got to get. I've never had anyone even look at me at those parties. They just go like this.

Oh, come on. Usually they say, could I get a freshen up? They go to give me a hug by the shoulders and then they move me. They move you over to the side. Benicio. One time we went to a party, David got on my shoulders and I was like, you couldn't see me. And then he was dancing around with a Mar-a-Rachi thing going on. Look at me.

Yeah. Well, like, why is like so popular? Like even I'm here even more on every show. Am I saying like? No, you don't say it hardly at all. You said like maybe twice. But like is really good. It was like really hard.

And I was like very scared. It was like really hard. It's like really hard to be like. I like when they don't finish it, they go it. It's kind of like. Yeah, they don't finish the sentence. And you're like you just got to like that's all you got to. But that's been around.

80s or 70s sort of called the Valley Girl, but it's even still this back with people from everywhere. It's still here. I mean, but it's better than the like, oops, I said it. Oh,

because we're kind of teasing it a little bit. I'm going to, if I hear myself say I'm going to substitute Lake for like, it's like, it's like, it's like, I didn't even know, but it's like, let's see we can start the thing.

Well, sometimes you're allowed to utilize it as a, a version of, of as if. It is like Right. No, it's as utility as a word. There's some utility. Yeah. It's not completely, you know. All right.

All right. Thank you. Dana, I made lunch for come in the kitchen. The chair company on HBO, which makes quality products, I have to say, you know, HBO is a big. H.O. doesn't fuck around. They wait for a good one. They don't make shitty ones. And so this is

HBO Max. Jim Downey, our friends on it. Tim Brown has a star. them who tell him oh tell him hello you he was my head writer when i was there i had a report to him okay i'm crazy we all we all kind of did if you if you run into downy just go what was it like to be a regular infantryman in george washington's army in the latter part of the war and he'll give you two hours the guy goes into libraries and colleges he's from harvard or yale i don't know he's the brainiac of all time in terms of American history. Really?

And he's fascinating to listen to, yeah. I don't have opinions with him. I can't believe I ignore him so much. You haven't. Oh, yeah. You don't interact with him. You're at home. Barb.

Barb is over there. All right. Shut up. Barb. St. Strasper. Trosper. Yeah, Trosper.

Barb Trosper. Rod. And Barb Trasper. Even stupider. And Barb Trasper. I remember, I was like, even the words like, Fisher, Roeber. The name of the mall company?

Yeah, so dumb. Someone's working overtime on these dumb names. Oh, it's so good. What's a chair company, quick? I love him walking around the mall. There's something about a mall. Walking around a mall. It's really fun.

TECA is like, it makes sense. But it's like, TECA. A robot. I just kept being like, I'm dyslexic, so I was like, oh, pretty sure I'm a little bit. Like, I couldn't. Blind, please. And then, oh, there was something else.

Like, I kept saying a name wrong. Oh, this is really fun. Sorry, last thing. But they would say, like, there's the girlfriend, like the fiancé of our daughter is named Tara, but we intentionally say it wrong. So sometimes it's Tara and Tara. And I was like, is it Tara or Tara? And they're like, it's fine.

Don't worry about it. And I was like, but is it? They're like. Because that happens in real life. People say. Yeah. And it's just because we don't like her, you know? I love people like that are in charge of this, that are not.

control freaks and are open to the mistakes and the weirdness and the quirky. Yeah. And we don't like that. It's Tara. Terra. Terror. Tara. Tara.

All right. Lake. Thank you. I have to go microwave my lunch. I appreciate you coming on. Nice to see you Lake. See you around campus. Hey guys.

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