Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Laraine Newman

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

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That's about something. That's you waking up the morning So I do the hands it gives a sense of Now I'm like a crusher and I should even bring this out here because you don't deserve it all mr. Sounder Here's the bird flying away Thank you good. Here's an old-fashioned dial phone for you ancient dial phone for you, ancient. Okay. Bring, bring, bring, bring, hello. Yes.

What's that? You're trying to beat it, go to the louder. Can you do this sound? Like predator? It's just sort of a... No. Okay, can you do this sound? Can you do this? Can you do an octopus watch?

Can you do Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter? I confeded him. I once did Garth. You smell him, Garth? I did go. I played Garth and Anthony Hopkins played Hannibal Lecter and we would entertain the crew on a movie we did together. I can smell you, God. I can smell Wayne. I'll do Garth. Blu. Maybe like, eh, eh. He's got to do the job.

It's all you got to do is the job. When Kristen Wigg at the foray, it goes, why does he hold his mouth that way? She seemed a little upset. I'm from a woman who has a hundred characters. I'm a laugh machine. I do voices and effects to make people happy. Dana, Dana who is married,

you were married in 1957. 57, 1957, I got married. And no, I met her at 19 when she was 19. I raised her as one of my own Hey, Priscilla I you're 14 you got away four more years. He's from Berlin when the year 20 She wasn't sexy anymore. Okay, so I'm a perkardam sandwich Lorraine Newman is on the show today and yes, Lorraine Newman one of the OGs mess and L very lucky I would say, to hit that lightning time of being on the show

that just blew the fuck up. And she has a true adorableness level. Like there's something very sweet about her. She's cute. You know, when you're in college stuff, you'd like to all the women. I don't know if women understand how much men find smart, funny women attractive. David? Yeah, it's true.

You're a bachelor. Tina Fey, I have a crush on Tina Fey. There's a lot of girls out there that just got that smart, funny thing and they don't even need to be Rob Williams. They just have a clever thing about them sort of charismatic deal that I like now. And that being said, I don't understand where we going. She is one of the original members of the original cast, the rock stars from 1975 on.

Lauren Michaels, cadre of fundsters. Codre. Codre of fundsters. That's another podcast. She got to work with Belushi Acroid, Garrett Morris, Chevy, like what a fun, Jane Curtain, mixed bag, Guilherat, and a blue. She was a conehead for crying out loud. That's really what I'm going for.

She's a conehead, and I did the coneheads movie and I didn't get to wear a cone. And what, you know what, did you, when did you first get that, hey, wait a minute, their heads look like cones, and that's why they're called coneheads. When did you first get that, hey, wait a minute, their heads look like cones, and that's why they're called cone heads. When did you realize that? I'm one second in. I'm, did anyone take long? So let me give you a quiz, pop quiz.

If their heads were oblong-shaped, what would they be called? Oblong heads? Yes. Okay. If they're, how about this? Did you know that R-Bs is because of roast beef, R-B? Nope. Nope. Nope. slow down by three quarters. R.B.

Rhythm and R.B. R.B.? R.B. roast beef. That's why it's called Arby's. Oh God. Okay. I didn't know. Togo's was because it's to go. I did not. Do you know Jack in the box is called that because the owner jacked off in a box? I didn't know that. No, but I did Jack off in a box. That's a good clip. My mother's main name was McDonald's. Well, those late nights. It was that weird. All right, we better get to Lorraine Newman. I adore her. She's so funny and so charming. I did a benefit one. She was there, brought her daughter. Daughter's a big star too. But on the show, don't say what one. I did a benefit one. She was there, brought her daughter. Daughter's a big star too.

But on the show, don't say what one. I won't say which one. Her daughter was like 10 and I was up there and I was kind of at the latter stages of my teen idol-ness. And so later on, Lorraine, I ran into at the West Side Accommody Club in Santa Monica. And she goes, you were my daughter's first sort of crush on an adult figure.

And that was kind of flattering. All right, we got that story. And you guys, here's Lorraine Newman. That's my best story. Yeah. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ You know what? I'll give Lorraine a compliment right after that, right?

Ready? Everyone loves Lorraine. Lorraine a compliment right off the bat, right? Ready? Everyone loves Lorraine. Lorraine, you have a great voice and not that I'm flirting, but when you, when women say what, or people say what do you like about women, one of my weird things is not that weird, but aside from the basics, oh, I like this, this, that all guys like, a voice is very interesting because it's very unique on every person and even as you get older, people recognize your voice. Like they know mine from the Emperors New Groove,

which was a cartoon movie at a long time ago. And so when I'm in 7, 11 people, no touchy, no touchy. Everybody in my family, all my kids know that reference. Oh, they know that movie ever think did you ever think? No, but I was telling that whole story just to get this see if that they knew my movie No, but you recognize a voice David you have a recognizable and she has a good voice that's right up Lorraine has a very seductive

smooth right off the bat. The reign has a very seductive, smooth, feminine voice. You know where it really came in handy? E. Buzz Miller. weren't you the girlfriend or something? Yeah, Christy Christina, a character that I never understood why anybody thought that was funny. I never, ever thought that character was funny.

I just was like, you know, well, they gave me the part. I'm going to do the best I can. And they even made this kind of piece that gave me those boobs with the, you know, the little bullet nipples because it was actually a rubber piece that went, you know, under the leotard. So I was a weird meeting and they probably don't have anymore. Who knows? Yeah. Well, okay, Lauren, when you do, when you do a part like that, I think SNL people want to, and we can talk about anything, but on the SNL tip, when Dan and I have been in that, in that mix and it's probably similar when you were there, but is that Danny Acroid is writing something up or someone else they walk by knocking your door and go, Hey,

do you want to be in this thing? We're writing it up. It's Tuesday night where you play. Is that kind of how it goes? The way that it went with you is exactly the way it went with us. I remember listening to Andy Sandberg on a radio show and he talked about the schedule like Monday, meet the host, pitch some ideas. Lauren says work on that that everybody works until Wednesday Yeah, she'll read through you know the whole thing choosing what you know build the sets Yeah, and you guys didn't have they probably ironed out a lot of the problems You probably had a rougher as far as oh yeah, yeah, well we didn't we didn't have WordPress

We didn't have I wasn't there during Yeah, well we didn't we didn't have wordpress that we didn't have I wasn't there during Being online and stuff so I did go back to host at one point Bill Hader and John Mulaney were there and they're like oh Well, we'll we'll click up this sketch that you did from dress that was cut in 1987 so they have everything in a database. I wouldn't even think of that and I you know When you never know what's gonna land with people so So I had done a sitcom of Mickey Rooney, and it's the freakyest person ever, you know, a steracle. I have a Mickey Rooney story, the good man. Mickey Rooney, and so then.

I just took Mickey's lines, which some sketch bonding Terry Turner were doing old-fashioned movie stars. So I just told them stuff Mickey had said. I was the number one star in the world. Hear me bang the world. So I just did Mickey's lines and I had prosthetic makeup. So I go there and Bill Hayder and John Mulaney they just go, our favorite thing you've ever done is Mickey Rooney.

So just remember those things. Well that's a great impression of him. What is the language code on this show? Oh you get what the mother fuck do? What are you saying? So I did a movie that I had nightmares that had been released and I would wake up sweating and it was called Revenge of the Red Baron and it was the kind of thing where I said to my agent, just ask for this amount of money, they'll never agree to it and be over. Well, they agreed to it. And it was a Roger Corman movie, okay?

And I'm thinking, well, you know, Katherine Bigelow started with Roger Corman, but no, this was some schlepper that had been cutting his movies for 20 years. But Toby McGuire played my son. Clifty Young was in it. And it was written by Mike McDonald from the Groundlings in Man TV.

Okay, so it could be good. And there were some groundlings in it. And so I thought, well, you know, Mickey Rooney would say those things. You know, I was the biggest star. And then as he's, as he's hitching his trousers, when I was having my single and he was ining his trousers, he, I was having my single and he was in my peripheral vision.

He would spit in his hand and make masturbatory gestures and then squirt the spit out of his hand like it was semen. Talk about picking a picture. Oh, man. Thank you. Thank you.

Yes. Yeah, can you imagine? I thought I was going to do that on sets. That's always a real moment. I know we shouldn't speak ill of the dead. No, can you imagine? I thought I was gonna did that on sets. That's always a real I know we shouldn't speak ill of the dead. No, no, he was just the most bitter person It was so funny. He had a 38 revolver with him and he would pull it out sometimes this script is Kaka and he's kind of Waving it around She's reliving in her head. I would go to work it would be Rockefeller Center on the sixth floor, six years before I got on the eighth floor, and I'd hear him down the hallway. You know, Judy Garland never owned a car!

Never owned a car! And then we get really close to your face, because they pumped her so full of drugs that killed her. He would talk until the air, there was no more air left and Once you work with Mickey. I mean Nathan and I had so many stories about working with Mickey But yeah, he could be crude. He said he had an idea for a show where every character's name was a swear word And he would act it out for like 20 minutes. Hello, Mrs. Fuck. I'm Mr. Shit How are you mother fucker and it went on for like 20 minutes? I could get that sold. Well, I actually saw him say to a actor,

have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior? Hey, would you look at the tits on that one? You know, it was like, right. You know, and he was phoning it in. He was in sugar babies on Broadway doing the sitcom. So we'd have to act to this guy, who was like 30 years old, but it was five feet tall. All week long, we rehearsed with him.

And Mickey would have giant cute cards. And he was just, and he would always had cash because he'd been broke for decades. And Sugar Babies, he was making money on the sitcom. So he'd pull out like $5,000 and put it right up to your face and go, think I can afford lunch. Oh my God.

There's too many stories. We don't want to make it all that. I was so curious. What were you doing on the sixth floor for just four years? I was doing a really long story short. I was doing a stand-up in San Francisco. NBC people came up. I had kind of this innocent, Timmy, Lassie look going on. I was kind of

funny, whatever. So I got to deal with NBC, a holding deal, $50,000 up front against things I would be doing. I was on the Maria Osmond variety show as a sketch player for like a day. But anyway, then all of a sudden, I got a call from NBC, you're gonna play Mickey Rooney's grandson on a sitcom in New York. And Nathan Lane had auditioned in LA, we flew back out on a 747, George Burns was playing cards, anyway. Oh, everything was surreal.

And it was in Rockefeller Center on the sixth floor. And then I would go up to the eighth floor on Thursdays watching them run through the thing Joe Piscopone Eddie Murphy and going, oh man, I want to be up here, but I was cast as a straight man for many years because I just had, and I had no confidence. I had no, I had ambition, but I had no real confidence, which kind of comes full circle a little bit to your story. When I'm watching Saturday Night Live from 75 to 80, you were the Beatles, you were rock stars, you were more than comedians because you were the first. And I was so in awe of the show, the idea that I would be on it. And I don't

know how you felt because you get on in the show's not the show yet. It's still, maybe it'll get canceled. So can you just talk a little bit about that very, very bear beginning? Were you there for the first show of the 75 season? You're there and who's with you? Is everyone there, Chevy? Everybody's there. In the last, like, you know, the 11th hour, it was between Billy and Chevy. Which, yeah, which killed me because I had never seen Billy except he was one of the first people I met. My first friend was Guilda Redner. And she took me up to a recording session for a national lampoon album, the one that's

called That's Not Funny That's Sick. So I'm on that album, but I meet Harold Ramos and Chris Guest and Landel Murray and Bill Murray. And so I got a sense of what Billy had and then I saw as audition, I'm thinking, oh boy, you know, and then they chose Chevy. Wait, they couldn't have both of them. That's what I thought. That's what I had hoped.

But they had Baluci and Acroid already. And they felt like, well now they have 32 cast members that they could have, that kind of was just, how many was it with you guys? Seven. So explosive. I mean, I really want to talk through this a lot, but just for a second, I just because of everyone's love

of Gilda Radner and your whole cast, but what, but she just seems so likable. I mean, was she just really fun and just a genuine, I mean, all of you and Jane, you know, and there's this like ability to that whole cast, but would speak to Gilda for a second. Well, she was a really good person. That's nice to know. She was the person that, you know that made a fuss over your birthday. She and I found ourselves in some pickles, which I talk about in my book. What is the name of the book?

Maybe we'll get a big following. Maybe we'll live in interesting times. one was that when we did the New Orleans live from New Orleans special technology, you know, for doing green screen and shifting from one set to another was like a minute old. And everything that could have gone wrong did. But the days before during the rehearsal process, Guilda and I were put into a room in a building at a part of town We did not know where we were we were scared to go out because we were literally getting mobbed Yeah, and we were in this room with nothing but chairs and a trash can with one of those lids that you step on a pedal and the lid goes up They forgot about us for four hours. We're in this room for four hours and

you'll turn that trash can into a puppet. Because that's the kind of person she was. So nice. And God, there's just so many times that she and I for some reason, you know, but we also just, you know, would have breakfast together before we went into work. And that's... You know, I think it comes across.

And I don't know if Lauren honed this later or you think about, there's the funny part, there's the likeability part, and then there's the charisma. And finally, there's how might they work together? Well, they, you know, kind of like a sitcom. You know, you have this piece this key piece, this piece, this piece. But I think everyone who's gone through that you never lose a certain kind of bond with your cast, especially unknown people, not famous at all, no money at all, going on this television show. And I was 10 years later in 86, but you still feel that a

spree to core with with your original cast if you run into Dan Acroider whoever or you know it's an extraordinary experience as you know it is an extraordinary experience and I always liken it to a lifeboat where you know you all survive something some of us didn't yeah you all survive something, some of us didn't, but it all survived something that was very extraordinary. I was on Dennis Miller's show a couple weeks ago, and we talked about the very same thing, and he mentioned the movie, The Right Stuff, which I think of this scene every time people ask

about the camaraderie of the cast and the closeness where their backstage, I think Lyndon Johnson is introducing them. I've seen a movie many times, yeah. Yeah, that scene where their backstage and they're all just kind of looking at one another, like, I guess we did this thing that nobody else has ever done. Yeah. And obviously, I'm not comparing our show to space exploration, But you know, it's the same feeling.

Well, I would say, you know, without that analogy, but in terms of show business, especially as the show grew live, I remember just doing a cold opening and one is the president or whatever. And just the whole way to the show is on you. And then there's that Joe Disco five seconds. Five seconds. And you're just, you're like floating

and then you're just reading the card and hoping that you're articulating. That is a lot of pressure, you know, I think in show business, I don't know if there's any more, anything that currently exists live like that. And they were ready. We came from that background.

I'm sorry, What did you say? I everything I say is important. So everyone has to listen mostly. I was just saying that when Dana and I were on there was a chance you could get famous or being just being on it, you'd get a little bump in fame even if you suddenly didn't click or whatever, but with you guys, you seem like a very sweet woman and gilded and all those people together

and not knowing that it's such a wapper and getting the biggest hit out of it that anyone's gotten must mess with your head. Like you were saying just walk in the street or are getting breakfast and you feel like, do I deserve this or why, what's going on here and why are so many people thinking this is so great, even though you think it's fun, but I think it, I don't think anyone

can prep for that. Well, you kind of, I mean, since you're part of this era, it really, when you think about the evolution of comedy from Laughin and Lauren, you should say, it's fucking Carol Burnett. I'm sure he loves Carol Burnett, but he had a thing about breaking in scenes when we were there. He didn't want you to break. But the rock and roll, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, thing had started.

And then all of a sudden this sketch show manifests itself with this kind of post 1960s, early 70s comedy sensibility, right? What was alt comedy, that's what I've come to realize is that, yes, you had your show of shows in Carol Burnett and, you know, Laughin, but those were really mainstream and written by actors, writers that were not our age, did not have our references or sensibility. And this was truly an amalgam of a bunch of really great minds like Michael O'Donohue and Herb Sargent and you know, Frank and Adavis and all these amazing people whose tone and style had never been

seen before. And then you also have the references that we all came with. I mean, you know, I came with these characters that I had done at the groundlings. And so you know, you talk about the format. that's exactly what I came from, is doing a sketch, running off stage in the dark, changing my costume, coming back in the dark, lights come up and you go. That's what I came from. That's Jane came from the pro opposition. Gilda came from Second City in the lampoon show. So we all had that background. ¿Y, ¿no? Guilda, ¿qué fue la segunda ciudad en la lampoon? ¿Y, ¿no?

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I had always noticed even even in high school, that the people from the valley spoke differently. And my twin brother was a surfer. He still is, actually. And so I'd go to the beach with him every once in a while. And there was this whole thing about the valley surfers, which is the Malibu surfers and the west side surfers. And, you know, but I did my ear picked up

because I'd always loved dialects. I'd always picked up on them. There was, when I was four years old, there was an orange Julia stand in Westwood village run by the Scottish couple who would say things to me. Like, would you like your hot dog steamed or grilled? And I would just grab onto that kind of stuff. So you were doing that at age four. I wasn't doing it.

I was noticing it. Yeah. You know, but then I was, I did start doing dialects very young, but that was, yeah, I started hearing that valley accent and realizing that it was a very unique accent. So many people have used it. I mean, it's just, yeah, that's just an old thing. You bit. It's just, where you, I'm familiarized with your have used it. I mean, it's just Well, let's be true. You bit. It's just Where you I'm familiarize me with your take on it. Did you do the thing? Oh my god or how did you no processing that became later?

I don't know who did that but no, I think that moon unit did oh my god. Okay but You know I break down that dialect in my book and Which is called you should have an interesting life for what You live an interesting You live an interesting life right now on everywhere books are sold the rain new man Audible and

You know contractions like wouldn't shouldn't or couldn't would become one shun and cut You know and I and G endings were EEN. So I'm going there and things like that. It's just and then there was also words like bitch and and super that came before, you know, like in my monologue in the Godfather group, therapist sketch, I said, you know, I had to get super reflective, you know, it was that that was the language and the dialect that I kind of That was great. I love that. Yeah, that is still around. That was like super reflective. Can you do that again? I had to get super reflective God even that like voice grainy

That that's out there too with every girl in the bachelor But yes, Lorraine what is underneath that? I just want to know every girl in the bachelor. What is underneath that? I just want to know for a second, the process, I mean, someone who talks like that, is it an elitism or is it trying to be cool or what is kind of behind someone who would change their voice? I'm just thinking out loud.

That's super rough. People change their voice to it. I don't think they change their voice to it. I think that it becomes ubiquitous. Yeah, and there's a is there a charm to it I'm just a sexuality to it is I'm just wondering why where it came from anyway. We may never That out exactly doesn't charm me one fucking bit Yeah, because the stoner dude the male version was like most like, I'm not talking about man, this is crazy dude. But that was like from being. If she does that then everything even moon unit,

it's all sort of a spin off of that laying the groundwork, like someone doing Lauren the first time or Christopher walk and everyone's kind of doing that version, but you're laying, everyone's like, oh, that's a thing now. So they're kind of playing off that one and building on it. So that's the hard thing is to come up with the code.

Frank Zappa. He loved that character. He absolutely loved it and wanted to do something with it and it just never happened. And he's also, he was from Kukumanga. He was from the Valley. So he absolutely, you know, I did him once on the show and Michael, Michael Thomas did such a great job with my makeup and I came out of the room and Eric Clapton was in the hallway. Sorry folks, name dropping, but that's what's happening. Michael Thomas. He was my guy brilliant, funny, so fucking funny. He made vampire teeth for me.

Did he? Oh, Michael Thomas for everyone listening was one of the quintessential brilliant makeup artists and he could move so fast and do little things and you'd sit in the chair and you'd get more and more into character and he would keep doing stuff. And then he had such a funny ear. I was doing a show of fears later

and I was asked to do all these classic impressions like Groucho Marx, it was a Easter special. I was rich little. And I didn't really have them. And so he taught me Jack Benny. And then I would go out and do Jack Benny. And he said, this is how you do Groucho. So he also had an ear and he loved monsters, but God rest his soul. Yeah. Loved him. Loved him. So glad you had a connection with him. He was such a great. You did you start the groundlings? Are you a part of the founding people?

Yeah, one of the founding members. That's great. That's so cool. Wow. That was in LA. Wow. I knew. Yeah.

Who knew? So, SNL is like the groundlings, but suddenly when you leave, everyone has seen it. It's so funny. You can do a sketch walking your room and someone attacks you and say, great one. I was in Oklahoma. I just saw it. You're like, it's such a mind-blower. Yeah, there's a thing going on in the groundlings now where people would stay in the main company

and they just wouldn't leave. And even though it's like, you know, they're on series television now, they just don't leave. So that what they started to do to get them to leave was to do a retrospective and a celebration to just, you know, and to get out the door. And I always marveled at the technology because they had the, you know, ability to film their sketches. And we did our 40th anniversary.

The people from the 1970s, we just did straight improv because there was no, we had never filmed any of our sketches. But later on, of course, everybody had, you know, early Melissa McCarthy, early Kristen Wigg, early Maya Rudolph, you know, it was just great stuff to see. I wish that when I was there and it was sort of with all of us, if you missed a sketch, then you waited for the rerun six months later. And if you missed it again, you might have been in the best of in the summer, but that's a long shot. And now I don't get to see the show as much.

So if Monday on Yahoo News or wherever you are on your computer, sometimes it just says, here's a sketch from, and they give you the best one. And then you go, oh, the show is pretty funny still. Even though who knows how much of the show it's always like hitting this, but that keeps it alive. I think that's a big part of why it's still out there and still killing it.

Well, now it's 1.6 billion YouTube hits last year for their season, which is extraordinary. And then now it, I don't know if it still is, but peacock, I think you can watch it live at 8.30 on the West Coast. So, it's evolved in so many ways. The interesting part about you and Gilda and Jane being the first women, and there's all these, you know, the society is evolved, and we were talking to Anagasthir, who's another

great performer, and just the idea that how many women have emerged in such a big way in the last 20 years, in some of the ones you were mentioning. But it was three on your cast, then there was those intermediate cast, I know Julie, we saw dry fists was on. We had Jan Hooks, Noradun, and Victoria Jackson. Oh, good.

Jan Hooks, we, she's supernatural. I love it. Is good as anyone in Jan hooks, that's so good. So unbelievably funny. Yeah, just balls out funny. Oh, God. And funny off stage, we had so many laughs. We would just get, you know, when you get so tired

in a stressful job like that, you get laughing, laughing fits. Like your little kids, I remember one time Phil had a suit on the late great Phil Hartman, and we called them the glue, because he was like our Danny Acroid or something. What do you need this week? You know, and he didn't even, it was effortless for Phil. But Jan and I just saw his tire or something. It's like we were stoned. We were so tired. Oh That's a great place to be though. Don't you know this you're just so weak you can't not laugh

I have a question about Lorraine about you know, we had an our run Chris Farley you guys had John Blue she and Jen Chris luck looked up to John so much Because they were sort of you know bigger guys and very, very physical. I remember even in wardrobe, he would find pants for a sketch and he'd look in it and say, Balushi, they still had him. And he'd wear them and then he'd wear his pants over those because he wanted to have anything. And at one point I said, Chris, you're as good as Volusia.

I mean, I hate to sound like blasphemous, but I go, we all love Volusia. And I go, Chris, you're at the point where we go down the street. It's, you're so good that I would put you in the same. And he would never buy that. He would never buy it. And it was hard. Here's the thing that I have to say about all of that because when I hear people say your

cast was the best cast, I say no. The cast that was on when you were an adolescent is the best cast. Because they've always had great casts, always, always had great casts and great writers. And you know, I mean, guys, your years had you guys and the people around you, there have always been great casts. And people that don't even know ours. They said we're bad and then later they say we're good. It's so funny that when we're there, they're like, you missed a good people.

They were just here. You guys suck. And then later they go. Sherry live dead. It was like funnier too much to the left. That never ended. And it goes, sorry, dead.

It's gonna get every year. It'll be a headline. That's a good impression. I cannot do it. I cannot do it. The problem with the critics, they're like really into their own thing. It's that thing of like, you know,

you have to be really light on your feet. It'd be nice if that thing of life, you know, you have to be really light on your feet. It'd be nice if this sketch was like, you know, funny would be a good thing. We'll have more in sarcasm. Did he ever come saying things like, absolutely, or no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,. And he also was, I think because he's a very, very smart guy, he could get all those Ivy League guys to come in and respect him, you know, the Harvard guys. And I went to San Francisco State, but everyone, you know, they would all giggle when I would mispronounce a word and read through. I'm going to go, you fuckers, I'll get you on the stage. It wasn't intimidating. I don't know.

You guys had great writers, Lorraine, but it got very Harvardy when I was there from Scottsdale Community College. And I could just tell it was very clear. I was in over my head. And it takes a while to figure out, like, I don't know if you wrote, but I think you did, but how to write a sketch or how to fit in with these guys and just get to the level. I just want to go and read through and say, I don't want everyone to go, what the fuck?

Who wrote this? I just want it to be like, oh, we're not doing it, but it's sort of mixed into the bunch, you know, because sometimes I would write something and I didn't know how to write. And I just got that yellow pad and they would be like, that's eight pages too long. I'm like, well, no one is talking to me. I don't know. no one tells you anything. Was that the same when you were there in the 70? We have to learn it yourself or ask other cast members.

But we, yeah, nobody tells you anything. And I didn't quite get that it would be good if I were to align myself with a writer who could really get me. But fortunately, it worked out that way. Anyway, and O'Donohue and Schiller and Rosie Schuster, they really wrote beautifully for me. And, you know, I brought us some of the material that I had done to the groundlings I brought there, but that was basically how it worked because I did not know how. The things I did in the groundlings

were what we now call in ones or down left's which were just character monologues Yeah, I am a shitty improviser shitty, you know So, you know, I don't have a ready to improvise on sound like life, but you don't improvise. Yeah people think you do But but backstakes you do you know for a second, Rosie Schuster came back. Lauren's ex-wife, one of them. And she was assigned to me. I just done this character in my stand-up. I didn't do it all day long. I never wore a dress with this church lady person. We sat for a couple of weeks, you know, making the talk show out of it. And she was the one who said, uh, church chat, you know, and she was very,

very good. Yeah. Yeah. Really brighter. Yeah. Really beautiful. Yeah. So that Lauren loves that when the writers and the cast get together. And I actually talked to a young cast member recently wanted to talk to me. I won't say, you know, it was who's currently on the show. And struggling a little bit with the process. I said, well, whatever your rhythm of your character is, you know, collect your hooks or what makes it funny and crunchy to you, seek out a writer that has influence and maybe would want to. So at the ground floor, while the sketch is being written, your rhythms are being integrated. Don't wait where they've written jokes and then you're trying to put your character into it.

Exactly. Make sure you do it together. So it sounds like you had that with Michael Donahue and Rosie and all the rest. Yeah. That's one that Lauren loves that thing too. It's like, it's like the Congress and the Senator getting along or something once. He doesn't want one side to dominate too much. Yeah. Well, Conan O'Brien talks about not knowing how to write a sketch and how he really started out by just like telling somebody's stories and people say, yeah, you should write that as a sketch.

But you know, the idea that any writer would come there not knowing how to write a sketch. Well, I was going to be on the show. And then they say, we're me and Rob Schneider and they go, you're hired, but you're, they liked your standup, but they liked the writing of it. So, which is good and bad news, because they go, he wants to be a writer performer, and then they go, oh, maybe Chevy was,

I don't know who was, but I go, He was just hired as a writer. Chevy was just hired as a writer. Yes. Jared and Chevy were hired as writers. I did not know that. That's cool. How long till Billy came on?

Was it three years? No, actually it was a second year. Oh, so because Chevy did like, we live in a half season, whatever. He was on the cover of time or whatever he was. He just blew up from the show. And then he always regretted leaving. You know, when he would come back and host, he talked about which he needs stayed longer. Sure for sure.

I mean, it's hard to get that. I think that once you leave it, you can never go back, you know. Once you, what? Once you leave SNL, you're never going to do... I thought you said, once you, Diva, you never come back. Oh, funny. That's... That's better than what I just said.

So I did say that, Lorraine. What's you, Diva? But once you leave, you can't go back to that experientially. And it haunts your whole career or life in some ways, because it's New York, it's the Greece pain. There's a horse in the show, and someone's juggling, and it's all chaotic and weird. And there's just nothing quite like that intensity

of how hard it is. And you go, I could do that. And then you leave, I'm sure Chevy after years, like, and he sees the show stays huge and even huge and you're like, fuck, that was fun. I was in that. I was in the mix. Yeah, that's the thing.

A sketch comedy is so fun. Yeah. I mean, when I was back for the 40th, just doing sketches. All right. So goddamn fun. Oh yeah, it's just, and the people you get to work with are always super sharp, funny.

Yes. You get to look around and go, God damn it, all these people are great. And then they go on to do great things and you go, shit, everyone was good, I was not wrong. It feels like it's more pressure now, but you go, shit, everyone was good. I was not wrong. It feels like it's more pressure now, but you guys, when did you for yourself, Lorraine? So you're on the show and the show is not the show yet, but you're becoming rock stars.

When did, you know, I think the audience starts to discover and they discovered Chevy first probably because he was on update and had an in one at home base. It was like very potent, Chevy. But when do you feel like when did you personally get comfortable, you feel? Were you comfortable right away? It took me, I feel like 60 shows. 60. To get, I'd say I was better after the third season,

fourth season, you know, I mean, to be really having fun. To go back full circle to like just enjoying it because everything is picking and wigs and going and then the cards and changing to get relaxed. Did you feel you had a breakthrough with a certain character? I mean, was it the cone heads or any sketch you remember where I've got this, we're winning, we're winning team, we're rock stars, or maybe it was immediate for you guys. No, I was very young and I was very inexperienced.

You were like 21 or something? No, no, I was 23, but I was very inexperienced. You were like 21 or something? No, I was 23, but I was a very young 23. That's young. I was a young 23. That's what I have to say about that. I was very inexperienced and I did not have a lot of confidence. And so I can't say that I ever got to a place where I felt comfortable. When I was when I was doing something either that I wrote or that I really had an affinity for and felt like I could score with, those were great times. I mean, Marilyn Miller wrote this Barbara Stryson song for me. And I was just thinking about it the other day because someone was talking about, I think

it was the documentary on Mr. Kelly's and that Barbara Streison does the intro on that. And I was thinking, you know, it was a complicated song. I was the only one who could sing a little bit better than everybody else of the girls. And I just remember afterwards that kind of explosive applause when it was over. And as I'm bowing and my legs are shaking, you know, it was such a great moment and experience to have. But I didn't have a lot of those, you know. Did you like singing? Did you sit with someone? We had Cheryl. Mark Shaman. We had Cheryl and Mark Shaman.

And it's... Mark Shaman worked on the show? He did. Well, I was there for a couple years then he went off and did movies, but he was there with Cheryl. I didn't know that. This is just for people listening. You know, if there's a musical number, it's so much fun to sit down.

Well, let's just say Cheryl was so wonderful. She could just play anything and you had a song you wanted to do I think she said she did black magic woman is that Santana I don't know did she play the chords backwards for the church chat theme oh my god how brilliant but she would help you with notes and know you were gonna harmonize and we're playing cowboys and we're harmonizing Woody Harrelson and she would help you and notes and know you were gonna harmonize and we're playing cowboys and we're harmonizing Woody Harrelson and she would help you and I'll speak to that you I want to hear your experiences

I had one freaky thing of I was in a booth with Willie Nelson he has old guitar and Then he was learning a song and maybe I didn't and I've seen my own it in real time You have those kinds of moments you in terms of the movie the the hosts that came along in those five years who what does anyone stick out or? Oh the hosts the host because you're then you're meeting like you had a lot of stars coming through it's unreal I was Yeah, Richard prior I had met Richard prior when I was 14 because he was friends with my sister

Oh, and he was playing the troubadour guys the troubadour. Wow. Wow. He's playing the troubadour and so yeah, so I met him when I was 14 so when he came to host the show I was like I'm Tracy Newman's little sister to you remember. Yeah, and he was so great to me. He was just, he was sweet. Oh, it's like there are three people who are my main influences. Evardin, Madeline Con and Richard Pryor. Those are like the holy Trinity for me. Madeline Con's another monster.

Did she come host? Twice. Oh, how great. Yeah. So that's the exact example of what happens to your own satellite lives. You have this mentor who doesn't know. And then you're now you're in a sketch with them. I know. It's surreal. Right. What about Lorraine? Did I read that you were stopped? I mean, this is where your career just hits a zenith when you got stopped by John and Yoko, is that true? Yeah, I was coming from a photo session with Francisco Escobulo.

I was in a makeup for the playthrough with Julie Schleiburg. And out of my brain, I'm walking through the lobby of 30 Rock and through my peripheral vision, I see these two forms and they come into focus Holy shit. The Jon and Yoko. Mmm, God. And as they pass in front of me, Jon goes, hi, let it in. You know, not a hi, hi, rain, you know.

Wow. And I was like Luke Costello in those suit, you know, like, four or three. Really? Frank and Staten was like, exactly. Yeah, exactly what I was like, I'm really in front of the sign. I was like, I'm exactly what I was like. Sean Lennon. I always got. There were so many intersections

that you would happen to have my cast with different people and Paul McCartney and so forth. But yeah, I was always bittersweet. I would love to have met John Lennon. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, Christopher Lee was the person that I was very excited to meet.

I had lobbied for him to be a host for three years, but it wasn't until he was in a James Bond movie that he hosted. But they put him in. And God was here, great host. Of course, he immediately said, I do not want to do Dracula. It was like, wow.

He's your son, that's a girl. Yeah. Yeah. I'm your son, that's cool. Yeah. I'm going to play Coco the clown. Better want to do Dracula. It's not something to influence. I was just saying that because when Steven hosted, I think I got a bad rap of being quoted and sometimes these stories that that's our worst host.

But the truth is, I did like Steven's aull and I liked his movies and I was just trying, I was saying he was sort of known to others as a bad host. He wouldn't roll with a flow and I think both of you know that the best thing to do of your host is to just put your hands up and go, what do you want me to do? And if you're a Christopher Lee, we'll make it for actor, we won't make you look at an asshole. This will be a funny version, people will like it.

And he wouldn't do any karate monologue, and we wanted to kung fu fighting, or something stupid. And he just was latching onto wanting to be cool. And I got what he was saying. He's like, that's, I have an image, and it was just too hard to trust us and talk him out of that. That's all. He wasn't a bad guy to me.

I didn't mean to imply that he was difficult. He was absolutely great. Sure, but a lot of people don't want to do- He just didn't want to do that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. A lot of people just say they get on there or the music, we had that a lot. The music doesn't want to do their hit song.

And you want to go, you get two songs. You could do whatever you want on the second one. But the first one, can you please do your hit? It's kind of when a host comes in like, there's an athlete or we had George Steinbräner, a billionaire owns the New York Yankees. So, George Steinbräner, so he's got kind of, he's a billionaire, and Al Franken pitched him something to the effect. In the sketch, he would be on all fours in a diaper with a dog collar. It's funny. Just like Apple.

He's not going to do that. I think it's really funny. Remember Conan was saying at dinner, we saw Conan. He was saying he was he had a Bob Odenker, had to go pitch to George Scheinbrenner, and he fucking hated it and said, I'm not doing it, shit, get out of here. And they leave and Lauren goes, give it another try.

What? Go back in. Yeah, Lauren. Oh my God. I did a sketch once, it was during Matthew, brother. Mary, Sarah Jessica Parker, the cobbler's brother. Matthew Broderick. So we were all bare-chested in diapers in the sketch. a few, um, Roderick, Mary, just, uh, Sarah Jessica Parker, the probably some broader.

Matthew Broderick. So we were all bare-chested in diapers in the sketch. And so, and this, so the sketch bombs, I mean, it really bombs. I mean, it's dead quiet. And then you have to walk off. There's no, it's too busy. No one puts a rope. You're walking through eight eights through the audience

with a big diaper on and sketched it just Shit itself and then I looked in an audience member did a little like hey how you doing a little wave and they looked away Time out humiliation That's what comedy is. Do the inner sketch. If it's falling below. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch.

Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch.

Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch. Take the inner sketch.'s the alchemy of the show, you know. Well, it's sometimes the dress show is so hot and you're like, I don't like this.

Yeah. Because then that air show is not so hot and a lot of invited guests and then all of a sudden the same. And it's a half the laugh and then you've gotten spoiled with the dress show. But sometimes the air audience was the best. So you never knew, but it was a high-wire act. Lorraine, I don't want to keep you forever, but do you ever get mad and say maps? Say what? Maps. Maps.

Maps. What are you saying coneheads? Maps. It's memes. M-E-B-S. M-E-B. Wow. M-E-B. I've been saying it wrong.

I've been saying it wrong every time I stop my toe. That's all right. I was in cone heads. I was in the cone heads. Really? Yeah, I played it out. That's great. That's great.

I played it. You were in the cone. I wasn't in that one, but I just, Dana, it was almost jury duty. It was everybody. It was Ellen DeGeneres, Phil, I know. Sinbad, Schneider, Sandler.

I was too big at the time and I had a beach house and I didn't really. I was turning down a lot of things. I'm just processing this idea when it came out, the idea that the character's name was what the character was. So the coneheads had coneheads. So I always loved that. and that's why I said the church lady is the church lady, you know or people talk to people It's a catch where she plays like a church lady

Right, it well didn't did that I mean did caribou net and flip Wilson or whatever did they do that because that was the first time I saw it's a certain Knowing dry silliness that the character's name is what the character is. It was that pre-date SNL. But I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, Dane, I don't know what happened with Flip Wilson.

Exactly. I love all those varieties, yeah. Now, we're great. Lorraine, do you laugh when you're going to do coneheads and rehearsal? Does it kill at the table or is there any weirdness along the week on? What if this just does not work? I adore Danny's writing. I absolutely adored it.

And he could do no wrong as far as I was concerned. Even if it was like something really subtle and tasty that I knew the audience would not get, that was fine. That is fun too, because you know, some of those sketches, you're like, I don't care how it does, I love it, we need to do it. And Lauren's good at keeping stuff like that on.

He's like, I don't care if it doesn't work. This represents us, that's a good sketch. Jack Handi used to write a lot of really weird ones, and we all loved him at Reed Thuany. He goes, put it on forever. That's part of the magic of the show. Yeah. Because that sensibility is allowed even if it doesn't kill. And yeah, Dan Hacker, I would write these long, he would talk really super fast and have

all this language coming out. God damn it. You know, and you'd have to just figure out later what he was saying. But the coneheads was silly and it was, I mean, how many times did you think you did that? It seemed like it was on a lot. Gosh, I do not know. I just know that the one time that we did an extended version

where we filmed us going back to RemiLac. RemiLac. We had never been in the cones longer than the length of a sketch But this was like a whole day and the spirit gum fuck started to burn. Oh, you know This is where it was anchored here. Unproven. Yeah, oh my god And so you know Jane and Danny were in the front seat and they just started smoking weed. And I was in the back seat and we just... Are you on location or something?

Yes, we were shooting on location. And I'd be terrified. It was improvised too because, you know, we didn't get permits. We went to a gas station to fill the tank. And Danny did a bit of drinking the gasoline, but, you know, it was like gorilla because he got no permits or anything like that.

And you're in your outfit, you're a giant head. And everything walking around. I got a question. When you do cone heads, did you have to do it either cold open or after update because there's so much work on it? It was always at the top of the show. When I did gap girls, it was so much work, they could only put it first or after up to because that's the biggest

chunk you have update and music and that's like 12 minutes or something. And did you get stone that day then? No I never I've never was able to perform high. I mean I tried it I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it.

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And you let them come to you. And some things like like cheeseburger, cheeseburger, one of those, like they, that might not work the first. There's a lot of sketches that might not work. And by the time it comes down, you don't realize they really did like it. They had to watch it and think about it. And then their friends talk about it and you go, that is good, it's kind of hookier.

Even if it's not a catchphrase, just a smart bit and then you go, oh fuck, that's bigger than that. But also that was active and high energy. And I've said this before, but for me personally, when I was doing Johnny Carson on the show and sort of a new way. It's a great impression by the way.

Just thank you. My kind of my favorite thing because I did I thought I enjoyed it so much and I had Phil of course there. That the drafts I forgot. I think you are correct. You are correct. You're watching a television and that's how you're seeing the pictures. We are not actively in your living room. You know, how Johnny would include everyone in the country and on stuff. And I didn't care.

And I was in my sixth season or something, but I wasn't thinking whether it was gonna get a laugh because I intrinsically knew it was so fucking, it was almost too funny. Some things that I'll watch sometimes are so funny that I know I'm gonna, I can't even laugh as hard as I want to laugh. I'm gonna laugh later.

Because you want to hear it. You want to hear it and hit you so hard. But the rock and roll sketches are easier. It was, you look at an old sketch, like even from Lorraine's seasons and you go, I didn't even really get that back then, like how funny it was. Like I was too young and then you look back, you go, holy shit, that's so well done or smarter. Cause I was just like looking for the easy jokes, I'm younger, you know, and then you get older

and you start to like different stuff, but you go back and go, oh fuck, that was so good. Yeah, that's an interesting point, I've experienced that too. Yeah. Did you go on update a lot and do characters? I did it a couple of times when, um... When Sid Vicious murdered his girlfriend. There's a whole other topic. Go ahead.

I went on this, his mother. I went on this, his mother, saying that he was a good boy, you know. And I think Brian was Sid good boy, you know, and I think Brian was Sid Vicious, you know, and he just had the wig on and he just looked Completely mad, you know, I was just going on. I said I did my best, you know, I did my past I don't know I don't know we've had a great job here. Oh my god Of course I did the the reporter, you know, Lorraine Newman, the reporter. Which was kind of in that sort of reporter dialectanist and language of breaking news

right now, this is the whole, that kind of thing. Yeah, I'll be, I'm standing here, you know, I always had heard, you know, I heard that song and, you know, you know, what I'm talking about Dana, the song that they do that is a newscaster song. All right, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,

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I love, I'm like, I love all voices. I love all dialects and I so enjoy when I see people do them on, Sarah and I live the new young cast member does a Trump that is so brilliant. Oh my God. And so, and I just, that's like so funny and so brilliant. I, you know, I have to like watch it later almost

because he's doing so many hooks, excuse me, and the people who can lot of people, they're saying many, and he's doing all that stuff. His brightness, great too. His brightness just, come on. His day's a good stuff. We can do this. We can do it.

No, here's a deal. My father lost a job not getting around here. We can, in fact, do better. We can do it alone. Here's a deal. My father lost a job not getting around here. We can in fact do better. We can. We're stressed. I'm out of my mind. I said let me smell your hair. Buying is an interesting one.

The evolution of doing a president is that the country still has to get used to Biden. The kind of defensive guy is come out a little bit angry and then befuddled all the different flavors he has, but we're still discovering him, the whisper thing, and then he goes kind of loud. And so my dad would do that when he was 90. It was kind of a patronizing whisper because I know what I'm doing. Oh man.

That's right. We can do that. And number one, the one part, number two with the guy said number three. We could do that. And Arna. Number one, the one part. Number two with the guy said, number three. Come on, folks. He's always admonishing us for not understanding. It's not like it's not. There's some really, really interesting new cast members.

Chloe Fine. She's a ground link. She's a friend of my daughter, Hannah's. I'm telling you about her for years. So I watched your daughter today. She's really, really funny and talented. I just saw her on Colbert because I knew I was gonna be talking to you.

And she reminds me of you. There's a troll drive. Yeah, I mean, there's just a, why would you say this? Her stuff is very smart, you know. Thank you. Yes, we're just, you know, beside ourselves. She belongs there. I mean, she's going to, she is having a career. She's on hacks now. She's just really good. And so I can't imagine what that must

feel like to have a dog, have someone have success because you look at her, her mom, and now you're the daughter and following a big act to follow and she's doing great. Well, her talent is completely different than mine. And my older child's talent is also, they started doing stand up when they were 15. And they're all, they're on Lose Spooky's, Julio's show. And they both, their talent is completely different than mine. And that is exciting to watch. But, you know, my only contribution really was when this is so inappropriate. But when I was

driving them to school, I mean, this is like grade school. I would play the Sklar brothers and Maria Bamford and Pat and Oswald, you know. I mean, because mommy needed to be entertained, damn it, you know. I was not gonna listen to radio fucking Disney another second, you know. So when you gave him some good stand-ups, wow. Yeah.

But your daughter, when she came on co-bear the first time, this is Hannah. She did kind of like a little story about her mom and dad and sperm donors and stuff. And it was very, very sketched. That's why it wasn't traditional stand up. That's why it reminded me of her style. Yeah, she's very different. And I saw her set at Dynasty typewriter this last Sunday and it was pretty much a new

material and 40 minutes set and it was so good and so interesting. It was like, how the hell did you come up with that stuff? Interesting. Wow. Well, that's a great way to close the podcast because that's like this gigantic, perfect, full circle talking about that. The apple does not fall very far from the tree

But anyway, that's the sweet Lorraine. I'm so happy I think I met one of your daughters or both of them at that Al Franken thing we did it was probably Hannah Probably Hannah. Yeah, she's you know, whatever just a sweet little girl. Yeah, now she's that's cool you know, whatever, just a sweet little girl. Now she's, that's cool. Well, I've really enjoyed this a lot of hope you've had. This is so fun, you guys. I really did. And thank you for having me, too.

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