Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Luke Wilson

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

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He looks all tough. Yeah. I click no boxes. This dude's just a box clicker and he also golfs. He's really good at golf. Yeah. There's no red flags. He's just a box clicker.

He's such a god dang box clicker. It at golf. Yeah. There's no red flags. He's just a box clicker. He's such a god dang box clicker. It's unbelievable. Yeah. He just walks around checking boxes and looking cool and he sounds Southern. Great actor. I think it's real. I think it's real. Those Wilson brothers, they got their own kind of accents called the Wilson brother accent.

It's like just a very cool, it kind of makes you mellow out. Yeah. Just chill. It just mellows me out. Yeah. Because you know how anxious you get. Yeah. Mine is called, my accent is more like thirsty and anxious.

Yeah. People pleasing, gross. I'm a people pleaser. I got the disease of please. I'm going to become a badass. I got the disease, the disease to please. To ease, to please. Yeah, blind me up.

And he's also in Horizon, which you've seen all of, and I've seen some of, because I love Costner and it's, I like it. It's cool. And he's cool in Horizon, which you've seen all of, and I've seen some of, because I love Costner, and I like it, it's cool, and he's cool, of course. He effortlessly makes a great cowboy, and there's an incredible scene in there. So we do talk about working with Costner in that movie. Also his new movie, You Gotta Believe. You Gotta Believe, and that's a family picture Also his new movie. You gotta believe. You gotta believe. And that's a family picture around a baseball coach who falls ill and the team.

And it's based on a true story. So check that out. Mr. Greg Kinnear, who I used to see more of, but he's out there. Greg, Greg Kinnear. I think he's a client of Gavitts. No wonder you don't see him so much. He doesn't like money. You like money? No, he's great.

He's always great at things. For us, it was kind of fun because we like to talk about ourselves. Luke was curious about us. Some guests like to ask questions, so that was sort of fun talking about ourselves a little bit. He's just a charmer.

He's the guy you want to hang out with. Reese Witherspoon. What's that movie? The huge one. Heather, what's it called? It's her first one with, she's a lawyer. God, you don't know it. Legally Blonde.

Legally Blonde really stumped the panel. Anyway, he was in old school. He's in so many movies. Old school, Legally Blonde. Yeah, there's just tons of movies. Love it. All right. Well, enough of us. Here he is, Luke Wilson.

He looks cool. Put your clothes on. Damn. Hey guys, I want to thank you for appearing on my podcast, Talking With the L Train. I appreciate that. Just wanna get a couple of ads out of the way here. Dana, I'm gonna have you read one for Miramax Films

and David, yours is gonna be for Anthony Pelicano Private Investigations. Okay. I am emailing you guys the text. God, I love it. yours is going to be for Anthony Pelicano private investigation. I am emailing you guys the text. God, I love it. It's so efficient. I'm recording for Dana's world. It's a little side pod, just so you know, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. I'm doing some drone footage of this. Great to see you guys. Long time, first time, as they say. You remember ours though, right? You, me, Neelan and your brother had dinner at this restaurant. Yeah, dinner, yeah.

Right, and the next day the economy was shut down. Stay indoors, right, basically. Yeah, well, no, I was just thinking about that dinner because I've never been back to that place. And I think- Me neither. I think Owen had just done that hiking with Kevin thing and then that's how we all happen to have dinner.

But yeah, I was thinking about that. That's the only time I've ever gotten the chance to meet you. Well, we just scattered, that was it. We just scattered. I don't really put numbers in my, I'm getting better at putting numbers in my phone. So I thought of calling or texting you guys. And when your brother got SNL,

I think he gave a text to me, but he didn't say his name, you know, and I was like, who is this? I didn't really, anyway. Yeah, that was great when he did SNL. I was, cause I think he was, yeah, he was, he had not done it for a long time. And I think he and Lorne are, are good friends.

So it was cool when he got the chance to do that. Are you the only brothers that have done it or it must have been other brothers? No, they're half. Both have hosted. There have to be a few others. Didn't the, didn't the Gibbs do it? And, um.

The Gibbs. The Gibbs. Andy, Barry did it. Did Harvey and Bob Weinstein do it at one time? Maybe the Kelsey brothers at some point will both be on. Moe Howard's grandson hosted early season though. I don't know. I think you guys might be the only ones, but all right.

I'll always think of you as a 154 half-miler, but we can move on to your movie career. 153. 153? If we're talking about it, yeah, 153. 153 in high school for casual listeners. This is a national class. This is a guy who's gonna go maybe on a scholarship

to a college, 153 in high school. And you're a good runner too. Not, not at your level. You faded out. Four, four 27 mile does not translate to 153. I wish I had pursued it. I didn't, I kind of, I, I, um, I didn't realize how kind of important high schools or just sports were to me until I stopped playing them

after high school. Yeah. I guess that's always the thing. We had a team, we had a, my high school program was like a college program. It was pretty, pretty unbelievable. But anyway, for people who have turned us off at this point, for you track fans, our guest today.

Look at this study, looks like the Marlboro man. We got Horizon. Dana saw you in Horizon. I like a big fat ass Western. By the way, I loved it and I loved you in it. You are a IMPD. I don't know who writes this stuff, but it was kind of cool. It referred

to you as the handsome Texan, Luke Wilson. I want to be called the hand. I can't say that. My grandmother might have written that a few years ago. Yeah, no shit. So just because the rise is right up on our new horizon screen, you also have a new movie out. Oh, hey, that's not even why I'm here, guys. I'm excited to talk to you guys. I mean, I'm really, I hadn't, you know, hadn't really gotten into listening to podcasts. And then I'd heard, you know, about you guys having this one, it was kind of SNL related. And then I'd heard about you guys having this one. It was kind of SNL related. And then I've gotten to, I mean, I've listened to pretty much all of them.

And then for me, the funniest thing is, it's like, it's the only time I've ever enjoyed listening to people talking about comedy where I haven't been like, why don't you fucking make me laugh instead of telling me how hard comedy is. But no, I love the show. I mean, the most recent one I listened to was Nick Swartson, which was a really funny one. And then, gosh, I listened to one that was a couple of years old, but you guys got to kidding around about just pilots

and making connections and being stuck on planes. And gosh, it was so funny. I was gonna tell Dana, I had this girl on this plane last week when I was on the road, and it's all silent in first class or whatever class I was in. And she goes, and I just go, I pop up like a

meerkat, I'm like, cause you can't just get away with that. And then everyone's quiet. And then she goes, again, really deep one. And so of course I wake the guy next to me. I'm like, Hey man, like it's a terrorist. I go, we got a situation dude. Like what are we doing?

Because something's going on, there's germs everywhere. And then I sort of unionize everyone around me. I go, what, like where's the air marshal? Let's bring them back for this. Because then she sneezed, I'm like, oh, get fucked. You're not sneezing and acting like it's nothing. We're all flying together.

And the stewardess is up there reading us magazine. I go, get on this shit, dive on that grenade. Yeah, have the air marshal just kind of quietly looking at you like, because I mean, it was amazing for a while there. You could always see those guys kind of the kind of like ex officio shirt on or like fishing shirt on. Yeah, just really like doing People Magazine crossword staring at everyone faking it. I've gunned somebody down. I flew with a guy who was terrified to fly worse than me.

And then on came the plane right at the end. We were in first class, but it was a pretty big first class, you know, domestic. Nevermind. Anyway, so six people of Middle Eastern descent came on and sat down and they all started praying. And this guy is flipping out. And I just said, I said, it's so obvious it can't be true.

You've never been safer. It's way too obvious. Cause it was, you know. Yeah, Morton Lawrence had a great bid in like his second standout special about like post 9-11 that was the only time he'd really seen blacks and whites working together was you know on a plane kind of monitoring who was coming in on and off. Who to be racist against. Yeah exactly. I like when they bring out the beverage cart and the flight attendants stand in front of where their arms cross.

Yeah. Oh boy, nothing's getting through that. You guys mentioned that, that, you know, your life depends on Marjorie and so many bottles. That's what stands between you and going down. Dude, I stand up in the back and I just pull out a little curtain to look up in first and she's got the beverage cart and she's like, just gives her hand like, whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa, that's as far as we're going right now. We got a whole thing up here, you know, you know what the Bev cart means. And so I was like, oh, you can't even get close. You can't stand up. They think you're making a move. I know, and on the back of her uniform, it said, stand your ground.

I thought it was a little dark. I mean, do we need to know? She said, we're over Florida right now. I can take you there. I'm just trying to get to Houston, okay? 90 minutes, I don't need some kind of action up towards the bulwark part of the app. I lost it.

You have got the Dennis Miller down and he really, it's almost like having him be the third host because He makes an appearance at every show you guys do through through love. It's and denis make yeah God, you know I this um this week. I was for some reason I was like i'm gonna i'm gonna go back and Couldn't find anything to watch i'm was like, I'm going to start the Larry Sanders show again. Oh, there you guys are first season. Both of you guys are in that.

Look at that. That's incredible. I was in the first show. I think I'm one of them substituting for Larry. Yeah. I think, no, that was, that was, I think right around four when David might've been in the first one. I think he might've beat you in there.

You know, mine- I don't know. I meant mine was recorded before the show premiered. Do you remember Herve Villaches? Yep, saw that one where he had the beard and then you had the- Herve Villaches was my guest and cause he was just from another country. He didn't know he wasn't on a real talk show.

He didn't know he was doing a talk show within a talk show with, you know, so he thought he was in a real talk show. With a substitute talk show host. Yeah. You know, Dana, yours might not have been first only because would they have the first episode without establishing Larry has his own show?

I mean, cause if he had a guest host. Yeah. I was- But I think, I're right. Because if he had a guest host. Yeah. I was like, hey. I think mine, Luke, thanks for bringing this up. Guys, you were, hey, let's just agree that you were both there first season. But, you know, I was even thinking about that in terms of getting into the business. There, Dana got in first, then David got in. Yeah. Then I got in.

Yeah. He is the silverback in the group. We have to. Yeah, that's what we say. You would have loved that, Luke. Did you ever get on Larry Sanders? No, I didn't. I never, I think by the time I got to town, because I can remember watching it back in Dallas,

I think it was already, I think it was already off, but I can remember watching it back in Dallas. I think it was already I think it was already off but I can remember seeing Excuse me Gary Chandler around Santa Monica when I first got into town Then new people like Duke of me that were were friends with them and Greg Kinnear They knew him but yeah, he was he was not the show Finished by them, but such a funny show. And the interesting part was that he did that style of shooting, quasi documentary, you know, and then, and then that influenced Ricky Gervais. Oh yeah.

The office and a lot of handheld stuff. And then, and then we got our office, but he did, there was no digital. So he had three guys with 16 millimeter cameras on their shoulders. So I'm talking to Larry, got one on me, one on Larry and a two shot. And so you could overlap, do whatever you wanted. Every take would be it's complete organic take.

So it was the easiest acting. I don't know if you ever, I mean, when digital came in, that was more around, but at the time it was like just completely organic, super real. That's why I popped. Right. It was still so much more difficult to have to do that on a film, but interesting that that's how you guys did it. I was thinking about you guys, did you guys ever watch, because to me, the funniest show, and I guess it qualifies as a sitcom, is Faulty Towers with John Cleese.

It only ran for two seasons, but that to me is just unbelievable. Dana, you saw that. I don't think I saw that. If you're not seeing it, you've got to watch that. I'm sure it's one of those things that's scripted, but he is so funny with the sides and muttering that it seems unscripted. That's me, yeah.

Oh gosh, it's unbelievable. And yeah, only went for two seasons, so probably only about 20 episodes if that. I think 28 or something. It's that kind of like the honeymooners or something. But John Cleese, John Cleese, I think the honeymooners was only 28. I know, did that only go a couple of seasons?

Yeah, just not that many. Yeah, they only got 50 million viewers. So they had to cancel it back then. All right. But John Cleese and Monty Python, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. They're just, and your dad, sorry, insert, your dad, it's just a fun fact. This is a trivia. Your dad brought Monty Python to America. Well, he, my dad was working at this, at a PBS station in Dallas, Channel 13.

And he, yeah, KERA. And's somehow what I'm not just a program director without any experience and but it was really he had this friend. You know kind of buddy that he'd hang out that works there Ron de Villier but he was the one who had. But he was the one who had had maybe a Monty Python, did they have a record before they had anything televised? But anyhow, he's the one who had said to my dad, these guys are unbelievable. They're from England. We've got to get them on the show. And then they got the guys to come to Dallas where they had kind of a wild couple of nights with those guys. But yeah, it was their first day on KERA in Dallas. But yeah, it was really my friends, my dad's friend, Ron DeVille, who got my dad to do

it. But yeah. It says here it was your dad, so we're going to go with that. Okay, good. And so you sort of got into that kind of comedy. Like when I was a kid, I saw Life of Brian. I was a kid, but I thought, holy shit, it was like Rated R. But I thought that was so fucking funny

and it was not like what I'd seen, regular stuff I'd seen, you know? Yeah, I can remember when that came out. Somehow that's, it was kind of over my head and I still haven't seen all the Monty Python stuff. And I know, you know, it was kind of over my head and I, and I still haven't seen all the Monty Python stuff and I know, you know, it's one of those things where people, yeah, I have not, I don't think I've seen the whole thing. Where I didn't get all the stuff because I was too young and I don't, and it's

also some English humor, but I just remember thinking there were boobs in it. Maybe that was it. Yeah. It's like, maybe that's why I liked it. Benny Hill could keep you keyed in to hopefully soon. Somehow that kind of was over my head at the time, but I've sensed like there are all these kind of documentaries about Monty Python. I just find those so funny because they're all such like, you know, Eric Heidel and Graham

Chapman and they're all such like, you know, Eric Heidel and Graham Chapman, and they're all such funny guys. And just all that stuff, they all kind of went to the same, you know, the kind of these boys schools like Eaton. And then I think they all went to one of two colleges like Oxford. And I can't remember what the other one was, but they're all, I mean, especially of course, John Cleese is just so funny. But they do seem like kind of, I mean, that's one thing I wanted to ask you guys about, because I mean, one thing I always think about, you know, funny people and, you know, is somehow they have kind of also very sensitive, but also like a quietly kind of rebellious spirit to like, you know, to where you can get told when you're, you know, a kid, and I'm not including myself, I'm talking about guys like you. And I think about people like my judge where, like, you can get told like, that's not that's not funny. You need to grow up, you need to get serious and not do that. Where a lot of people say, Oh, that's true. I need to stop imitating this person or walking funny or, you know, that kind of thing where I think there's a kind of a rebellious spirit in there

that I find really interesting that you guys have. It may be a little bit of a through line of some kind of childhood connection. Not, not that a child would completely create a full form person as a genetic component, but there's a little bit of passive aggressiveness into it. I know it's slated at all. All my characters were cocky and aggressive church lady, Hans and Throns. We could take gold and I thought, what, what, and I, I'm a nice guy and I have the disease to please, but as a comedian, I could just be kind of passive aggressive.

And I mean, also, I had heard you, you know, talking, maybe it was on Howard Stern, just kind of talking about how your, your dad, how he could be kind of hard on you. Like you and a, you and a friend were like trying to fix a car like a lawn mower in the yard. We killer thing. Yeah, have you thought about using your penis? No, I said, dad, what tool should I use for this? Me and my best friends in junior college in the garage,

just in the morning, what tool should I use? And he was just in a mood. He was just in a moment. He was just in a moment. He's in the garage. He said, quote, and we never forgot it. Oh, Jesus Christ. Use your penis. You shit head.

Like my judge has a great one about his father. And I think his dad was, I think like a archeology professor, but he'd left the house one day. He told Mike to mow the lawn, and I think it was Albuquerque, and he got home at the end of the day. Mike hadn't mowed the lawn, and Mike is one of those people, when he'll imitate someone, he'll kind of contort and turn into the person, but you'll see him turn into his dad where he's like, I told you to mow the goddamn pond. But I also think it's something that ties into

the musicians, I'll think about Tom Petty, he's one of those guys that had a tough dad, or Bruce Springsteen had a dad that didn't communicate with them. tough dad or like, um, you know, Bruce Springsteen had like a dad that like didn't communicate with them. I mean, uh, so I don't know. I think it's kind of one of those things where you can. Retrieve.

Yeah. It's also, there's a little bit of attention getting when I was a no dad around. So, and I was, you'll never believe this. I was a bit of a pipsqueak growing up. And, uh, so that was your nickname. Small fry shrimp cocktail. Yeah. I had yeah I had a few of those yeah fruitcake fruit cup fruity any derivative fruit yeah back then fruit sort of had a negative connotation. I can't.

Revenge. Revenge. Yeah, it was a different time. Hey, folks. Fruit cocktail, fruit cup. That was tutti frutti. Fruity shorts, fruity pants. Fruity pebbles.

Fruity love. So I was sort of like whispering jokes around almost just to, uh, survival mode in school and not confident enough to think the joke should be at full volume. So I would just say it. And if anyone laughed, I'd be like, Oh, that was a joke. And if they don't laugh, you go, that wasn't, yeah, that was just a muttering. Yeah. Yeah. It was a mutter. And, uh, and so, uh, that, that sort of got me through, but I, there is something to all that stuff.

I really think there is. And did you guys ever, like, I always think like the friends you had back then, like I always think like with, you know, really funny people like you guys, you had to have been around other funny, really funny kids, but where you guys would have, you know, kept moving in the direction of, you know, where you wound up, where they kind of would have done the thing that I was talking about, where they would have, you know, grown up, gotten serious. The hard part, Luke, is right after college, because that's the big split where you go,

go to college or I do this stupid fucking shenanigans that make no money and it's, oh look at my balloons. What just happened? This happens on our, I know. How did I cue that? I heard you guys talking about. This is it. You see it Luke.

We just had balloons pop up. It's such a great way to like make a point. I don't know how it works. It's so much funnier. We got to show it on video. I found it kind of moving. I don't know how it works. It's so much funnier. We got to show it on video. I found it kind of moving.

You were talking about it. It was, I was giving a speech. It was emotional. Yeah, anyway, who cares? Rosetta, is that a stone? Is that a stone, is that a stone, is that a stone? You want our new language? Yeah. Yes, Dana, go ahead. You were gonna ask a stone? You want to learn a new language? Yeah.

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50% off at Rosetta Stone dot com slash fly today. No, but really it's true. Like it's true. I remember being surprised when, you know, a couple of my best friends like say like, you want to be, you want to be a stockbroker? I, you know, you never told me that. I didn't, I didn't know that. And I said, what do you want to know?

I said, I don't know. I have no idea what I want to do. Was your dad tough? I mean, you have three kids in acting. I mean, who lets that happen? Who's watching the store? I mean, my dad was, I know, he was a pretty, very nice kind of funny guy.

And I mean, I'll think back and I'll talk about it with my brothers, just thinking like, gosh, he must've been under quite a strain to have like three kids and, you like, gosh, must've been under quite a strain to have like, you know, three kids and, you know, boys school, keeping us in school. And then he had, by that time, by, you know, the late seventies, he'd started like a little kind of advertising company, just him and, you know, like four or five people. But yeah, my dad was great. And, you know, I never, I never had a crossword with them,

really. But in terms of, I don't, you know, they hope for the, and they certainly didn't say like, you know, don't, don't try to get into movies or don't try and make a movie. But they, you know, would have been kind of, I'm sure now, looking back, they were kind of quietly concerned. But definitely, you know, had the feeling where we were from in Dallas, you could see people just kind of looking at us like kind of these guys that had lost their way and now had settled on a pipe dream of wanting to get a film made. What was the first thing, was Bottle Rocket? Is that the thing you did together? Yeah, Bottle. Who would know how to make something that good that fast?

That's so rare. Well, I think it was just Owen and Wes Anderson trying to write something. Was he a buddy? Yeah. Owen had met Wes in an English class at the University of Texas in Austin. Wes was from Houston. They didn't know each other. I'm Owen. They were both, you know, both wrote.

And then Wes, I think even back then, wanted to direct stuff. So then he and Owen did kind of a one act play with Owen in it and Wes directing. And then they'd written a whole script of bottle rocket. And it was kind of around the time of like Sex Lies and Video Tape and the Brothers McMullen where these kind of cheaper films were getting made and we thought okay well maybe we can do one of those and they'd written a whole

script and then we learned that well even to do it cheaply would cost 400 grand or something. So I met this guy in Dallas who had said, you know, you should, from the script, make a short film. And then there's a, this thing called a Sundance film festival in Utah, where they have a shorts program. And this was, you know, the early days of, of Sundance. And then that's how it, that's how that all. So you think people already saw a 13 minute version that didn't go wide though, right?

That just investors or something? Yeah, no, it just went in. It went to Sundance. Nothing happened with it there. And then a woman named Barbara Boyle, a producer, she saw it and liked it. And she got it to a producer friend of hers, this woman, Polly Platt, who's kind of an interesting woman, like kind ofatt, who's kind of an interesting woman, like kind of behind the scenes. She'd been married to Peter Bogdanovich and she was instrumental in getting the

last picture show and paper moon made. But then they got divorced and then she kind of became a right hand man, right hand person of, uh, James L Brooks. And she's the one who got him to make Terms of Endearment because that was also a Larry McMurtry book like the last picture show. And they went on to make broadcast news. And then she saw the short, liked it, read the script,

got it to James L. Brooks. And then we started this kind of long process of trying to get it to majors, because at the time he was making this movie, All Do Anything, which at the time was kind of famously, it was gonna be a musical with, you know, music by Prince and, you know, choreography by Twyla Tharp, and you know, Nick Nolte was in it and they did all this stuff.

It was a musical and they decided to set you Nolte. Jesus. That's like North Dallas 48 hours. Oh gosh. I mean 48 hours to me is, I was just watching a lot of that last week. But anyhow, that's how I got started. And, uh, yeah, that's how it started. Holy shit. And James L Brooks is huge.

Yeah. He's so you're like 22 and I think around, yeah, I can never, I think around 22 or so. And I think it was about 94. We made the short and then I think about. I know the movie came out in 90, I think six. When you went back to the town, I mean, I think you were in Occidental. When you went back to the hometown, it was different, right? I mean, people were like, what the fuck?

You guys are movie stars. I mean, you're a movie star. That what it feel like? Well, I mean, you got in a are movie stars. I mean, Mr. Van Hain. Were you a movie star then? What did it feel like? Was it good? Was something going on? When we were making, there's still, I mean, Dallas is kind of a, you know. Pretty big town.

Yeah, it's a big town and also kind of a money driven, money driven town by, you know, like very traditional, you know, businesses and, you know, oil and gas. So we weren't welcomed back as heroes. We were still the guys that, if anything, it was there more time. What are you guys doing? They're doing what? Oh yeah, hey, my buddy saw it. Looks like you guys were filming a movie over there about- An emotion picture?

... by the kind of near downtown. Hey, you guys. It's never kind of like, hey, great job or congratulations. Right. They kind of near downtowns, hey, you guys. It's never kind of like, hey, great job or congratulations. Right, they kind of shit on. We always laugh about the after we'd made Bottle Rocket. And some producers sang to us, I hope you guys are ready for your lives to change. And we were like, oh yeah, we are. We are so ready. And then like, no kidding around, okay, 30 years later, still are so ready. And then like, you know, getting around, okay,

30 years later, still nothing has changed. And nothing changed when Bottle Rocket came out, where like, you know, came and went in two weeks. But you looked at it a little differently, like when I'm from Arizona, just the fact that I moved to LA, I was a star. I did nothing. I'm just there like, wait, you were in LA, you've been to LA and you moved there?

Because everyone's like, I might move to LA and no one did. And I did and they're like, what the fuck? I mean, while I'm scraping and scratching and doing nothing, but I got an audition was like front page news. They couldn't fucking believe it. Yeah. And even with Arizona being closer, you'd think it would be less impressive. I mean, you're six hours away. They were flipping out.

They couldn't believe I had a, when I got my first callback, took about a year, honestly, but you take a while and then you get something in the Nats big news. But this little wispy nothings are a big deal because in my head, they were a big deal to get an audition, to get a six minute spot at midnight and bomb at the improv was exciting. So you know, it's all the same. And then you inch your way up to fame. My fame never came quickly.

Was yours quicker? Because bottle rock and then what's, what was the one that people really kind of turn their head? Did it take a while? Was it old school, Legally Blonde, those big fucking monsters? I think Legally Blonde, that was maybe the first big hit where people you wouldn't expect to recognize you, little kids and moms. Goes wide.

Yeah. And then, I guess definitely then old school where it really connected with guys and, you know, guys who were my age at the time. And then, you know, I don't hold it in the same level as Animal House, but it was that kind of movie. Oh yeah, it was pretty big. So you'd get teenage boys and then, you know, guys our age that loved it. But yeah, I guess what those kind of started.

Well, you Vince and Will both all kicking and all four years is great. I mean, and it was, oh, Todd Phillips too. Yeah, Todd Phillips. So yeah, that was incredible being around Will. I might've been like the first SNL and then I was thinking about it since like I've worked with so many of you guys, you know, and like Kristen Wiig, but so many SNL. And I was thinking about it since like, I've worked with so many of you guys, you know, and like Kristen Wiig, but so many SNL people. And to me, that's been, you know, besides getting to work with guys like Nolte or Gene Hackman and James Kahn, that was kind of like the most

exciting thing to me. Like, okay, I'm getting to work with, you know, the guys that my dad loved and the guys that, you know, were so cool. But then getting to work with SNL people, which I've gotten to work with so many and still do. But yeah, that's always been kind of the high points. Those older, you know, male actors, and then you do SNL people. And I know Dana, I mean you- Which one are we? You guys are- We're the older male SNL actors now? You guys are the SNL actors and the old studs.

Yeah, there you go. Did you, how was Gene Hackman? Cause I don't know if this is true, but I think it was the quick and the dead. It was a Sharon Stone sort of produced comedy. It had Leonardo DiCaprio in the 90s, whatever. Is it a comedy? No, it was a Western.

Right. And the directors out there and the crew and everyone and he's and Gene Hackman. And he's going, OK, so, Gene, you'll walk down here. You'll pivot here. He's going like this. And Gene Hackman just said in front of everybody, OK, first of all, I'm not going to do any of that shit. And don't you ever give me a fucking direction again.

Oh, my God. I did see Gene get testy. But I love a guy with that kind of control and power. I think with him, like, number one, like, you know, he's one of those guys that you always think of as being like age 50. But even when I worked with him on the Royal Tenenbaum, she was 72.

Yeah, but he looked 50 at 30. Exactly. He stayed 50. Always. But he was also, he was a Marine, and then, you know, a real actor's actor in the best kind of way, but you know, like a Newport guy, he'd been like, you know, I think roommates with like Dustin Hoffman and Robert Duvall, but I think he'd really put his time in and really did take it seriously.

But yeah, you know, he got he got a little heated a couple times. And, and then I think he, I think he kind of settled in the movie we worked on together to 10 months, but I do remember one time, you know, just kind of sitting there, I can feel Jean kind of just staring at me. Look, scary. You know, I kept looking, I kept looking over at my person. Like, oh man, I'm like, hey, Gene. He's like, you remind me a lot of my son.

And I was like, how do you guys get along? But yeah, he was great. I do remember when I, when I worked with, I mean, I always ask people that worked with him, like, you know, how was it when you worked with Gene Hackman? I asked Nick Nolte, because they worked on this movie Under Fire, and Nick was like, oh, Gene and I got along great. and Nick was like, oh, Gene and I got along great. And that, but he told a really incredible story about Gene losing his temper at the end of the movie. There was some shootout and I think the director's name

was Costa Grava, some kind of European director. But he was saying, you know, in the finale, in the middle of the streets, we're going to, that's when they sacrilegious killed the finale in the middle of the street, we're going to, that's when they sacrilegate, killed the pig in the middle of the street, an actual pig. And Gene said, no, I'm not going to do the scene. If you're going to slaughter a pig in the scene, I'm not going to do it. Oh, really kill one in the scene? And he said, Gene, no, this is part of the movie. It shows that everything dies at the

end. It's a slaughter. Whether it's a pig or human, Gene was like, I'm not going to do it. You can film it in a way that you don't need to slaughter the pig in the scene. And he said, OK, Gene. Then they do the scene and this guy slaughtered the pig. And Gene went ballistic on this South American location.

And Gene, you know Gene screamed at Nick. He was like, heck, did you know about this? Nick was like, no, Gene, I didn't. And then he went up to the director, he said, you told me you weren't going to do that. You agreed to that. And the director said, no, Gene, I did not know. I told these stupid guys not to do that. Oh, yeah. And Gene was like, you're telling me that you told them not to do it? And I said, yes, yes. But Gene, you should have seen your reaction. It was wonderful.

And then Gene went and then Gene blew off the handle. Oh, yeah, of course. Did he get physical or just verbal? I think just verbal. I mean, he is a big guy, but I think that, but I think he's also one of those guys that like somehow, you know, that what we love about him comes from that same kind of anger, you know,

the way he kind of, the way he kind of chuckles. He chuckles through scenes. It's so, Ron there, he was my favorite guy. There was 10, 15 years ago, who's in it, he's like, I'm going to be the best actor in the world. And he's like, I'm going to be the best actor in the world. And he's like, I'm going to be the best actor in the world. And he's like, I'm going to be the best actor in the world.

And he's like, I'm going to be the best actor in the world. And he's like, I'm going to be the best actor in the world. And he's like, I'm going to be the best actor in the world. And he's like, I'm going to be the best actor in the world. Yeah. He always kills it all the way back from talent to side adventure. He's like, yeah, the top three where if he's in it, it's going to be watch. I'll go. Costner, Costner going full circle said that Gene Atkin was the best actor he'd ever worked with.

Yeah. What did they do? That was when he played the Russian. No way out. Yeah. Was it No Way Out? Yeah. Yeah. Was it No Way Out? Yeah. Yeah. And I talked to Costner about it too. And yeah, he thought he was the best.

And then he had a thing where something about where they played a scene in Gene's office a certain way. And each time they were both sitting, and this was like the third scene where they're in Gene's office. And Kevin said to the director, you know, I think that I should be standing, you know, during the scenes. He's like, no, it just doesn't work if you're not sitting. And while Kevin and the director are going back and forth, Kevin said, you know, Hackman's

just kind of sitting there watching it. And then the director said, okay, well, what's Gene supposed to do? You know, if you're standing up, you know, over him in his office, and Kossner said to him, like, Gene will figure it out. And still, you know, Hackman didn't say anything, they did this scene. And then that day, you know, in the studio parking lot, Hackman called Kossner over to his car and And, you know, I think it's great. But yeah, it was just good. Yeah, no, I think he's a cool guy. Oh, fuck yeah. Yeah. That guy, that's the kind you don't like that he's not in as much.

You know, like I want to always to be the same age, just always be in movies. I know. for your business. It's having the spend to power your scale with no preset spending limit. Redefine possible with Business Platinum. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and conditions apply. Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. How often have you been in a film? Like when you tell about the pig killing thing,

it's kind of like, okay, this is more dramatic. Oh yeah. Better than anything in the movie. And's kind of like, okay, this is more dramatic. Oh yeah. Better than anything in the movie. And sometimes that, but you must, you must both have had experiences of people going off or whatever and going, can we get this on film? Oh gosh, so much for just like being around like funny crew people be like, this guy's funny

than anything we're doing. Than everything in the movie. Like this is the teamster that I talked to every day. Where it's like, you know, I just remember like kind of being on set one day and like trudging the set and they're like, I can't believe it's only Tuesday. This Teamster was like, it's Thursday, Luke. I'm like, no, man, it's only Tuesday. It's like, it's Thursday.

It's always Thursday. That was this guy's like motto. It's always Thursday. I was this guy's like motto. It's always Thursday. I had a team sir. Only one day to go. Every day is one day to go. You ever have a crew guy stand next to you, Luke,

and then they go, you might not have this, because they say the fucking ballsy shit sometime. One guy goes, this one's a little light on the laughs, huh? I'm like, what the fuck, this movie? But I'm like a hired hand, I didn't write it. I'm like, I mean, I don't know, dude, we're doing our best with it. You know what I mean?

A little soft. Well, now it's just like, you know, people texting, like you look over and see. You know they're talking about you. You know, I'm like, well, do I want this guy, you know, people texting, like you look over and see. You know they're talking about you. And I'll say, well, do I want this guy texting or smirking at me or looking at me? What the fuck are these guys doing? Yeah, they're talking about you. It really is funny, but yeah, definitely those, you know, what Dana, what you were saying,

so many instances of like, God, if we could, if the movie could be as good as what's going on in the making of the movie. Behind the scenes. I mean, when I was doing Road to Wellville with Anthony Hopkins, the smartest guy in the set was the makeup head of makeup and his name happened to be Peter Frampton. But he could dissect the script, why it's working. That's the one. No. And it was effortless for Michael. I hope he stood behind the director. Well, that was an Irish, that crew was Irish,

I guess, or Scottish, whatever. But after the lunch break, the entire camera area smelled like Guinness. Like, I'm not kidding. Like everybody would have like eight or 10 pints would come out. He's a second part of this. And she's, oh, there was a whole drama with the director and this woman and to be screaming and he's hung over and then he's going after it. So anyway, the making of movies.

That's like, you know, I just heard someone saying, like talking about chin and cheetah, the famous Roman studio. I've never gotten to work there, but this actor was like, yeah, I always liked working at Cinecitta. You know, you'd go to lunch and everyone would drink wine and you'd go back to work. But I mean, I, gosh, I do kind of can't help but romanticize those old days of filmmaking.

Although I am kind of glad I missed that. The eight, the eighties in Hollywood sound a little dicey for safety. Well, no, I'll just like, you know, just night shoots and like, guys, you know, kind of, you know, doing drugs on the, on the, on the different trucks and yeah, yeah, yeah. Sounds like that might still be going on. I don't love night shoots. I don the different trucks and, um,

that might still be going on. I don't love night shoots. I don't love, uh, yeah. Some sets are actually really fun. Dana, you know, this summer fun summer fucking work. Yeah. And then there is the classic thing where you have a great time on a set, you know, and the thing doesn't work. And then those times when it's been a grind and it does work, you hear about like, you know, Deborah winger and Richard gear hated each other on officer and gentlemen, then it just seems like this incredible love story where

And what is the alpha male thing of like, do we have to shoot 25 hours straight? Because the crew, the first day the crew looks fresh faced. Three weeks in, they look like 100 years older and like, yeah, we're gonna go triple overtime tonight. You know, and it's like the most tired I've ever been in my life, literally was when I was walking to Stan McKee, as I was gonna do Garth singing and dancing a song called

Foxy Lady. And I'm walking there and I had been on the set 21 hours. I thought, this is crazy. Like the most tired I've ever in my life. Now I've got to bring it to this thing I dreamed of my whole life. I think they're actually kind of now like, because I just worked on something that had these really long hours. But you know, I would come in on a Tuesday and a Thursday and do a scene or two. So I've always been in a great mood and just over the course of four months, you just, people were just a little less friendly every time I went back.

Yeah. And some people have rapophobia. What do you mean? They're just angry or whatever they like? Just getting kind of worn out. Whereas like, you know, first week is like, you know, introduce yourself to like the camera grip. He's like, hey, my first week it's like, uh, you know, introduce, introduce yourself to like the camera grip. And he's like, Hey, my man, like big fan, like we're going to have a good time. You got a buddy. That's going to be great. You know, a month later it's like, Hey, look, how you doing?

Um, then, then, and you know, Hey, Luke, you know, your line's sick. And then I was like, it's called a mark. If you can hit it, be great. Yeah. You need a sandbag. We can do that. We, you gotta hit it because that's be great. If you need a sandbag, we can do that. But you gotta hit it, cause that's what it's lit for.

Yeah. The DP's on his back under some kind of camera rig, reaching up like this, holding a light. All right, let's go. I'm always standing by some union teams are going, we're never gonna use this shot. I'm like, I, listen, I can't, I have to do it. Whatever it is, I gotta do it. They point't, I have to do it. Whatever it is, I got to do it.

They point me, I try to chime in and chirp up. You can't get away with shit. They're just like, it's a grind. People want to fill that day. They got to fill long days. I don't know if I jinxed it, but I was on Little Nicky and it was one of Adam Sandler's, who's, you know, our biggest movie star.

But anyway, I remember it was a night shoot and it's like a Halloween film or something, everyone's a little monster. Something is standing next to Jack Gerbudo, the producer. I just, without thinking, I said, is this going to work? It's so hard. Well, I remember saying, I remember, I would say that to like, you know, Mike judge on idiocracy, we'd be doing something and I'd say like,

Mike, is this too much? Is it too dumb? Right, and Mike would say, oh, you don't think it's funny? And I was like, I think it's funny, but I mean, I'm completely immature. I'm like, you know, 14 inside. I of course think it's funny.

I'm thinking about the critics and regular citizens. Oh. Citizens. Yeah. We had Mike on this podcast. I know, that was great. He's funny. And the visual on the Zoom,

when he goes into a, it was making me laugh so hard because he would become the character he does. He's subtle. And you can see him kind of like swallow and like turn. And speaking of like. King of the hill guy. Yeah, yeah.

Speaking of friends, it's like, I can remember Mike talking about these guys that he'd grown up with. And he might've even talked about her on your show, but somehow, you know, they were all kind of 12 to 14 and somehow they mentioned Teddy Kennedy running for president and one of the friends said, yeah, no, he can never be president because of Chappaquiddick.

And then one friend said, yeah, no, he can't be, he'll never get to be president because of Chappaquiddick. And they were like, Danny, you don't know what the hell chapiquitic is. You know, and then they got into it and said, yeah, I do. I'm not stupid. I know what chapiquitic is. And I go, okay, what is it? And he was like, chapiquitic is, uh, it's a, uh, it's a bird.

Bird. That's why you can't run. Yeah. Because of a bird. That's why he can't run. Yeah. Because of a bird? No, this guy didn't know what chap it was. I'm saying it's funny, but that's made sense to him. He's like, right, because the whole bird thing. Was it David Fry who did an album that had part of that on it?

It was somewhere I remember a comedian, maybe it was Bonnie Python. And the line was Kennedy saying, Kennedy saying when I returned Mary Joe and the Cobb with on, I just remembered that. I don't know. Picture with Twitter back then. I want to be fucking analyzing back. You couldn't kill anyone back then. I mean, you could today.

It's tougher. Look, Dana just did a baby Trump. You see it? It's for me. It's a baby Trump. It's a baby Trump. He comes up, it's happening. Venus fly Trump. If they cut the sound off with his hands these days,

with this, the accordion, and then the little thing with his thumb, form, finger and thumb, would go in there and they did, they said this, and the baby comes out and the dude is sorry. You can't see that comes out. The baby comes out and a lot of times, a lot of times, many people are saying, uh, everyone's saying it. Everyone's saying a lot of, Oh, I thought it was the best president here in the world.

That's why I'm going to say my grandma. I don't know. So I said, Joey, Joey. I mean, he always gets me with that because I lean in like, you know, what you would politely with kind of show. We saw it. You know, your granddad said, what? What do you say? Dad lost his job.

Now, Joe, you can't do that. I like when he said they're trying to push him out. He goes, I'm not going anywhere. He goes, you know, one time in the playground, Corn Pop gave me some fucking lip, told me to get off the playground. I said, I'm gonna bash his fucking brains in. I'm like, all right, maybe it's time.

Okay. No. Okay. I fucking pushed that motherfucker. Okay. Dude, Dan likes that one. Look, Luke. Look, and why is it coming up? Now you got one. I don't know, I can make that motherfucker. Okay. Dude, I like that one. Look, Luke. Look, and why is it coming up?

Now you got one. I don't know, I can make it happen. What I like during that, the whole kind of, is he gonna stay in or get out? Like, I guess this is just last week, but was it Jim Clyburn? I don't know where this guy's from. But he- Clyburn, yeah.

Clyburn, but he said, I am all in. I am riding with Biden. That's his last thing before he quits. He hadn't, he's saying that for a day. I am all in. I am riding with Clyburn. I mean, I'm riding with Biden. I'm riding with Biden and whatever Joe wants to do,

I will support him 100%. What? Dropped out? Well, fuck me with a spoon. I don't understand. I never liked him. That guy was a demented cadaver from day one. But three seconds ago, you said he was articulate.

What? One foot in the grave. Get your out of my face, bitch. Why are you talking about yesterday when I want to talk about the future of this country? This guy's living in the grave. Get out of my face, bitch. What are you talking about? Yesterday, when I want to talk about the future of this country. Yeah, this guy's living in the past. Yeah. You're living in the past and I'm talking about making things happen fast and going towards excellence. I'll tell you what happened. I think that whole crew behind Biden gas lit themselves and that's why they agreed to that first debate. I think

it'd be good. You'd think it'd be good. You think it'd be good? Yeah. Let's put them out there with Trump. No, no, no. The puppet needs a puppet master and this don't look good. I don't know what character this is, but it's my new character. It's good. And I like how when you do it, somehow your camera thing started shaking. Oh, well, that's because I have a rickety. Oh, maybe give him a Japanese earthquake. It's like the comedy quake. This is something you can't do anymore,

but I'll just do it. This is a Japanese man in an earthquake. What is it? What is it? What do you mean? What's up? What is it? What is it?

What is it? What is it? A tremor? What? What is it? What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? It went away. What is it? A little tremor? No, it went away. It's fine. Wait, something's going on. Oh, it's on!

It's cutting out his sound too. Oh, it's on! We've done this before in the podcast. I know, it's good. You're not gonna get canceled. That's great though. That's on fly mode. You're not gonna get canceled. No, that's on super fly, yeah. We've never done before in the podcast. You're not going to get canceled. That's on Superfly. We've never done it over here.

I used to do a bit about the origin of languages. This is part of a longer bit of where accents came from. And with the Japanese, I thought maybe it was all the seismic activity. And so I didn't do it for a while. I'm talking about the origins of accents here. OK, you're getting fixated on this. Yeah. And I must myself, who? Why would anyone go across Europe with, you know, with their sleeping bags? Let's go find a place to live and take a hard right and go to Scandinavia.

They had to be stupid. That's why they talk like these. Let's get in the snow. Okay. So I make fun of my tribe. What are you guys by the way? What is your heritage? Irish, Scottish, Swedish and Norwegian. What about David? You're up. I think I'm saying a lot of, I'm saying a lot of Dane and a lot of German when I look at this fella.

Yeah, I see German. A lot of pasty shit. We shouldn't all be on the same zoom. It's making me and Dane look bad. But you're like tan. Is that golf related or what is it? I'm angry about it. I live a hundred miles away

from the person who cuts my hair. So that's why. Now your hair's got a little flip in the very, very middle. It looks good. I don't know what's going on with it, but I live a hundred miles away. Should I get a more localized hair cutter person? Maybe right now. Do you live up north of LA?

Yeah. Okay. I'm out in the woods. Nice. It's an undisclosed little place. Yeah, I think I know the name of the town. I guess I'll not say it because I don't want to be the equivalent of Swift, these for carbies. I don't want to get some carbies. I don't want any carbies going out.

By the way, pop quiz fellas. You ever met a carvey? You've met a carry, you've met a garnie, but if you ever met a carvey. Met a carney? You've never met, because there's only five of us in North America. No, that's good. And not a lot of spades too. Not too many spades. Got the spade brigade over here. Spade's a great name for ace of spades.

Yeah, it is. I mean, it's got a lot of- I remember Chris Rocko's, he's got a lot of... I remember Chris Rock goes, Spade, everybody thinks we made up our names. I didn't. Did you? I go, no. And he goes, now Farley, I've heard that one before. But even Farley somehow matched Farley.

He's the Farley though. Yeah, he is the Farley and somehow was a great kind of name for him. That's a great one, yeah. It's kind of lovable, but kind of crazy sounding. Yeah, you're right. And Chris Rock suits, it's such a great Chris Rock. Show his name.

He's out there. Like Belushi, Belushi was perfect for him. Belushi's a good one. And that's a perfect example. That's like a carby. I'd never heard that before. I never heard Belushi. Ackroyd is a good weird one that you don't hear a lot.

Hey, I was going to ask you guys, well, this, because in terms of SNL, like, did you guys have a thing where once heist, because I just going to do Seth Meyers, you know, like a month ago, and you know that eight age hallway where it's chronological order, all that, you know, those great cash shots, where I've, you know, started at the very beginning, you know, 75 and, you know,

which I wouldn't have seen as a kid. But then when I started watching, you know, 75 and you know, which I wouldn't have seen as a kid. But then when I started watching, you know, kind of late seventies with my, you know, my dad and brothers. But then did you guys have a thing right around maybe ninth or 10th grade wherever when you started doing something on Saturday night when you could stay out to like midnight where I missed, I feel like I missed quite a few years. And of course at what you couldn't see things viral. But yeah, I feel like I missed a few, you know, seasons just when,

cause it's when I'd started kind of, you know, hanging around with friends on Saturday night. Yeah. And even in seventh and eighth grade, you're at home, you know, you're not going out. You can't go out too late. That's the pocket of when you like a cast. Exactly.

That's what I mean. What was your cast? I mean, that would have been the Eddie Murphy. That would have been like kind of 12, 10, 11, 12, 13, but then- You're 68, so that would be... I don't know how old you are. No, Luke, you, but then you're 68. So that would be, I don't know how it would be. No, Luke, you're not, you're young. Dana, did you watch those first, like the 75ers and the 76ers? Yeah.

I mean, two, uh, two things to unpack here. One is I never learned. I love that phrase. I never learned how to program a VCR record. So I had to watch it live. I don't know when the VCR came in, but I was in college during those years. And I definitely copied Dan Aykroyd's Jimmy Carter

and stuff like that. So I was aware of all that and having that dream. But I would miss shows because I was doing, toward that later part of the 70s, I was working clubs and there'd be a second show and I'd be on stage. And then the nineties, when I got off SNL, I was working a lot, had a family and I never learned how to program a VCR. So I did miss a lot of shows. Now everything's, I know. You have to catch the rerun. That's it. Now everything's, I know. Now, but now-

You have to catch the rerun. Now, wow, yeah, of course now tape it, watch them all or see it live. Twitter, YouTube. You guys, if you don't know about this, Peacock, I'll do a little, at 8.30 Pacific time, you get to watch the show live. I think even on-

Live in California. I think even on satellite, you know, Dish TV it comes on early, which is always nice. Yeah. Yeah. So you don't really earn it though. You used to have to stay up. Yeah.

Yeah. 1130 was tough. Yeah. As a kid. 1030 in Dallas it came on. Yeah. My dad would yell at me. No, he wouldn't.

He left. He left early. He left when I was four. You guys just wrap it up with that. You guys missed the fun part was going to a drive in movie, me and two of my brothers, I had three older brothers, all night creature features, all night Vincent Price, strangling, murder, mayhem.

Who took you there? Oh damn it Dana. Brad, the guy who played. No, Brad, the guy who played Garth. Oh, he took you to the and you guys just fucking crash there We're just little brothers. He could stay up all night. I would not make it all the way to dawn But you're the youngest of four Dana. I had a younger sister Okay, but I was the youngest brother. They wanted a girl

I was the fourth one so can we at least give him a girl's name? So that's what they got that better than Susan. Good night. So you're three boys. Mine was three boys. Four and Luke, what were you? Three boys. Yeah.

And where were you in the birth order, Dave? I'm last. I was the youngest. Really? We are interesting. I guess the youngest isn't really used with me a lot anymore, but I was the youngest and I was the youngest and I was really super adorable.

And these are other people's words. My dad said we were hassle. I swear later I go, I love that you wanted to have kids and you split. And he goes, you're a fucking asshole, man. That's what we're going with. That's your company line. And no one's told you that's not what you should say to your kids. He's like, Hey, you're a fucking pain in the ass.

I remember my dad one time losing his temper with us saying, when you all three get together, you're your own lowest common denominator. I was so bad at math, but I just knew that. Sounds, sounds bad. We would have, but I just knew that. I don't even know, it sounds bad. That doesn't sound good. We would have fought you. If the Carvey brothers, different era, if we were up with you, Wilson guys,

yeah, there would have been fist fights for sure. What? Why? Just because you're both hard asses. Because my dad had a boxing ring, we had boxing gloves, and you know, we had boxing matches. Beat the shit out of each other. Neighborhood boxing matches.

I mean, isn't it amazing about the, the teasing that goes on and, and families. And I feel like, you know, just like with the Owens, you know, two little boys or, you know, they're 10 and 13, but they're really nice to each other. I mean, there's like a little teasing going on, but I mean, when we were growing up, it was. That was brutal.

It was really. My brother wanted to kill me. My brother wanted me out. Yeah. I, I remember I got some, it was- That was brutal. It was really- My brother wanted to kill me. My brother wanted me out. Yeah. I remember I got some, I was really excited. I got these white suede doxiders that I'd saved up money to get. I mean, boy, talk about regretting a purchase.

Once I- Once my brothers and my dad started making fun of me about these babies. Your dad. Oh, my dad. Your dad jumped in. My dad called in the dusties. He's like, yeah, why don't you tell the dad to put the dusties on and sell us some breakfast. What does that mean?

What did they look like? I'm sorry. You know, dock siders, right? I only know desert boots. Dock siders. You know, like the shoes with the like strings through them almost. Exactly. Leather leather.

Oh, okay. You know, there were boats. Because you were near the water. No, we weren't, but there were, you know, there were probably boats. Oh, I had them when I was in Arizona. Oh, I know what you mean. Oh, those kind of boat shoes.

Right. Boat shoes, yeah, that would be humiliating. And guys wore them around, you know, in the late 70s, early 80s, but somehow I got a pair of white suede ones I discovered. God damn. Yeah, I would have teased you. I would have teased you.

I would have gone to town on that, man. You look like a fucking racer. You set up everybody in that family. It's either like, when you're in that position of wearing the dusties, you either, you know, get your feelings hurt and be like, hey, you start laughing about it yourself. It's hard to have pride when you're everyone hates them. Before we go, I want to give Luke a specific compliment because I noticed it and mentioned

it to my wife because she saw the movie with me. So we're watching Horizon and we're loving it because I just love westerns and the scene, you're kind of that head guy of this wagon train. And so these two creepy guys kind of are looking at a woman cleaning herself and stuff. So, and then you're just trying to make the thing go fine, get everything in control. But the way you went up and approached these guys, these guys who clearly didn't give a fuck about you, they were ready to kill you, but you were really talking to them. And then the guy stood up, he's like, and then your reaction of where you decide and you're, okay, I'm not going to fight over this right now was really, really

compelling. I don't know. I just really remember it because I put myself in your shoes, you know, you gotta, you gotta go talk to these guys and tell them to stop doing this. And it's like so awkward, but I thought the same was great. Oh, thanks. That's, that's funny. You say that that's where I mean, Kevin Costner, he's really good and sensitive as a director, like, because he'll go through it all and he'll start kind of acting it out physically. He's like, you don't want to go up in these fucking guys. You don't want to go back to your family. It's late. You've been on the trail all day. You've been out here three months. You don't want to go talk to these guys, but they've been helping you, you know,

but you gotta go up there and they can't do what they've been doing. So, you know, he really kind of talks to you. It's just one of those things where I'll think like, okay, if I could just kind of do it just like Kevin was doing it when he was showing it to me, that would be good. Just like Kevin was doing when he was showing it to me. That would be good. Yeah. But thank you for saying that. And thank you for watching it with Mrs. Carvey.

And we'll get Dave to watch it all. Yeah, I'm waiting for part two. I'm going to do a whole thing at once. Yeah. I like it. A little horizon marathon. What's the new one with the- We gotta mention that. Sean Arlington.

Were you in Arlington right by your house or something? Oh yeah, I was at the All-Star game where I'd taken out the game ball for the All-Star game. And I took a couple of friends with me that I'd grown up with were there, you know, they were kind of making fun of me, the fact that it wasn't televised. And they kept saying that I was the guy that gave the ball to the guy that gave the ball to the guy that gave the ball that put it on the mound. Just that it wasn't a very- That's an important job.

Right. but yeah, but that's, I have this little league movie coming out called You Gotta Believe in late August that me and Greg Kinnear did. So that should be... Yeah, because I saw it. Did you shoot it in Arlington, by the way? We unfortunately shot it, or not unfortunately, but it was set in Fort Worth, but you know, it's just one of those settings where in order to get more bang for your buck. Oh, because I thought you shot it in Fort Worth. No, we went to Canada. I wish we had shot it in Fort Worth. Oh really? Because it looked, they did a good job.

Yeah, I'm sure they got some exterior Fort Worth shots, but yeah, it's a good little story and it's funny. I mean, I know you guys have worked with kids before, but yeah, it's a good little story and it's funny. I mean, I know you guys have worked with kids before, but it's one of those things where it's kind of funny just being around these kids all day and then their parents where, yeah, we have, Kinnear and I had fun working with them. I had to kind of yell at them a couple of times, you guys need to focus. Oh yeah, for sure. But this is a new wave of kids too.

It's like, yeah, like kids, when we were kids and you're like, this isn't anything like the probably the kids we used to hang out with at Little League. Oh gosh, no, it was kind of like Bad News Bears, you know, meets the warriors when we were growing up. The warriors. Oh, I love both those movies. My God. But it's based on a true story. It's the longest Little League World Series in history.

And stuff happens. And yeah, that's very interesting. It's this team that kind of came this rag tag team. It came out of nowhere from Fort Worth and just kind of kept winning and got all the way to the Little league world series and had these two coaches. Um, one of whom they, the guy I play that, um, was kind of got ill and wasn't able to coach the team. So then Kinnear's character kind of takes the team over, but yeah, it's, it's, it's really, it's a really good.

Reluctantly takes it. Yeah. Yeah. And Kinnear and I had had a fun working together because we're friends and play a lot of golf together and it's yeah, it's nothing like you guys know. There's nothing more fun than making a movie with friends and gosh, I mean, that's the thing that like, um, so great about what Sandler does is, you know, putting those groups and you get to do that with them.

Oh, you were in the ridiculous sits. Yeah. I mean, that's where I got to see the whole, how the operation works. And it just, I mean, it just seems like happen. Um, just getting to be around your friends, having a like manageable schedule. And, you know, just, you know, Adam really sets the tone and those guys, I just saw Adam and those guys are getting ready to go to go do Pappy Gilmore too. So just getting ready to go have some fun again.

And then you get to make something that people will, I mean- Yeah, Pappy Gilmore will be a good one. I mean, that's something looking forward to. I think that's a great idea. And Sandler does kind of, he's the overriding force in the film. Yeah. And soler does kind of, he, he, he's the overriding force in the film, you know, kind of. And so what he says goes, he has all those pieces in place, works with a lot of the same people. So

yeah, it's all about having fun and he knows what it's like. Oh yeah. Your take in front of the camera, you know, yeah, you just gotta go in there. You do it. I'm sorry, David, give me a Sandler. You gotta go in there. So, yeah. I remember from the ridiculous six where it was a comedic western, but Frank Karachi, Sandler's friend was directing it and Sandler would always imitate Frank and Frank was great with company and really fun to work with us. But at one point he was saying, so then you guys come out of the salon and then you go over to the car and you jump in the car and Adam was like, it's a wagon. It's a fucking wagon. But just being out in the middle of nowhere in the desert of New Mexico and having these

two guys like Adam from New Hampshire. I'm not sure where Frank's from. Yeah. Yeah. That's so fun. My stuff was with Blake Shelton and Vanilla. Right. Because I remember that house you guys filmed at.

Yeah. Yeah. We shot in a house. We did like a card game. We know this game when there's six people around, it takes a full day to shoot or two days to shoot one scene. And yeah, what it was blast. Were you Mark Twain? I don't think so.

I was Colonel. Oh, no vanilla ice was Mark. Yeah, of course. I'm sure he's played Mark Twain in many vanilla ice was really good in that scene. I mean, he was, Mark Twain in many things. Vanilla Ice was really good in that scene. I mean, he was. We had a blast. Robbie. All right.

Oh yeah. Luke will have to play golf again one day because we played one time and I kind of was a puss Dana. It was super hot like it was yesterday. And then James. Did you just go nine? Luke took me nine. I was in my buddy Jody and then I said, I told him, I got a bad neck,

I could do a lot of nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get to nine. He goes, you're not fucking going anywhere. And so he drove through that little tunnel. You didn't let me get out. And then here we are, playing 18, sweating sickeningly. But I am, I think I'm better. I think about a half a percent better than I was.

I'm getting worse and worse as I'm getting older, but it is nice to get out there and be outside. No, it's definitely fun. I want to look like you when you get outside. The only way to enjoy it is just assume you're terrible. Yeah. And then you don't take it seriously. And usually if you get one good shot per hole, that's decent, either your chip or putt or something. I yell pro shot. Keeps you coming back. But I look at people taking it, my brother would throw tantrums. I mean, he did a Tommy Hawk with his putter on the green.

I'm like, what the fuck? And I go, Scott, you're terrible. And so am I. I mean, we're all awful. It's hard not to get mad. It is. I remember a story Pete Sampras told me about seeing Jack Nicholson at the golf course and

said, Hey Jack, how you doing? And Jack was like, good, good. I came close today to giving up the game. And Nicholson said, yeah, I told myself if I ever broke 70, that if I ever broke 70, that's it. And I was right there. I was going to shoot a 69 and I, I three putt it. So I get to keep playing. And Pete was like, you shot a 70, Jack?

That's great. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I've shot a seven. Um, on a par nine. No, no one plays nine, but me Dana, it's, it's 18. My older brother tried with a, with a nine, tried to get over a little pond. We're all we've all hit ten cup and he's got a nine iron. He 13 times.

He would, he would do it. If you stood behind him, sometimes he hit the edge of the ball and it will whiff over your head. He was literally a danger to other players. He didn't, he tried 13 times and didn't get it over and he never golfed again. That was it. He walked out. He wasn't even mad. Just like, that's it. Then he would just caddy. He would just caddy for us. I'm done. No more. Thank you, Luke. Hey guys. Thanks a ton. So nice to talk to you. The show is so funny and interesting.

So really, really enjoy listening to it. Listen to them all the time. So thank you. Keep knocking them out for us. I appreciate it, buddy. Let's all go to that restaurant that Neelan, Owen, you and I will bring Spade to. Yeah, I would love to get dinner with you, Dana.

Yeah, especially if there's beginnings of a pandemic, then we'll go there. Yeah, that's the only reason we're going to go. Well, because then everything's just. Let's hope we don't shut the world down again. Like, yeah, somehow that trio trio shut down civilization. It's in Fauci's book. All right. Okay, fellas.

Thanks very much. Take it easy. Thanks, Luke. Enjoy it. Thanks, buddy. You too. This has been a presentation of Odyssey. Please follow, subscribe, leave a like, a review, all this stuff, smash that button,

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