Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Luke Wilson Got Stuck on an Elevator with Wes Anderson

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

Luke Wilson joins David and Dana this week to talk about childhood nicknames, Nick Swardson’s appendix, and his new Netflix show with Will Ferrell, Hawk. Also, Bill Maher’s fascination with Dana�...�s marriage, getting stuck on an elevator with Wes Anderson, and the lasting influence of Idiocracy.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 But I'll never forget, as David walked up with the Mater D, David was saying, this place is bigger than chilies. It was. It was like five chilies to tape together. And this kid working in the airport said, hey, man, when are you going to make a comeback? Oh, yeah, come back. And I said, well, you know, you're already really down because you've just missed a flight. And I said, well, I got to get back to L.A. to get this comeback started.
Starting point is 00:00:34 So probably going to be at least two days before I start the old comeback. Asking Dana, like he was an anthropologist about married life. You know, I was like an exotic insect. He was trying to understand, you know, 43 years. You're telling me that when you walk in the door and it's the same woman, You don't want to. Yeah. What do you do then?
Starting point is 00:01:03 We have Luke Wilson. Luke Wilson. A friend of the show for real. His first time back. Yes, he has been on the show. He listens to the show. And he said, let's do it again. Let's run it back.
Starting point is 00:01:20 He's on his show Hawk on Netflix with Fortune, Molly Shannon. A lot of people we know, Will Ferrell, obviously. And looking forward to that. And of course, we have a nice chitter chat with him. And we hear all about what it's like to get stuck in an elevator. It goes a lot of places. And there's some unexpected twists and turns in this episode. I'll leave it at that.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Don't worry. We definitely interrupt him. We definitely interrupt him. But he's definitely in our Hall of Fame, officially in the Hall of Fame of Favorite Guests. We have a lot of favorite guests, and he's a charming chap with a great sense of humor and tells great stories. So here he is, Luke, the first big question. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Out the bullshit. First of all, I was going to start with the question, so I feel like this is like a political debate where you're jumping the gun on me. But go ahead. No, I've been like a question. We love questions. Not since William Shatner, but we've been asked the question. I know. I know that. And my first question was, and I have a lot. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:34 The first question was, Dana, since you won't tell us the town, the name of the town that you live in, will you at least tell us the names of your horses? I'm like, just as I listen to this show, I'm like, I like how Dana's kind of evasive. Each time he says where he lives, it's north of Santa Barbara or South of San Luis. Yeah, yeah, it's a hermit kingdom. Central California. I'm like, yeah. I've heard this question. Magrosa is the mom,
Starting point is 00:03:08 Magrosa and Rojo. These are like Jiminy Glick question. What are the names of your horses? What is the name? You fancy yourself a cowboy. Now, what are they? Excuse me. Magrosa and Rojo.
Starting point is 00:03:23 They're gray and. Red, kind of. But yeah, I can't. That's enough. Could we, I mean, you don't have to answer any questions I asked, but could you tell us your personal address or you live in L.A.? Would you give me your, will you at least give us your PIN number? We at least give us your four-digit code. Hey, man, I know.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I'm east of, West of Fresno. I'm east of Goleta. no idea where any of these places we don't have crime here so we don't lock our doors ever so that's all you need to know okay fair enough i guess i guess dave we won't we get invited up there anytime soon we couldn't get there he goes go to santa barbara and then i'll come get you you guys are both invited because we have 2,600 people we're going to listen to this so i want to make sure that they don't, you know, barge up here. But that, no one's ever asked me that question. So, thank you for the question. Well, I could sense just in different shows. I'm like, huh,
Starting point is 00:04:38 this guy doesn't want us to know the town that he lives in. Okay, that's interesting. And, you know, as a, I'm unintentionally mysterious to people. I'm unintentionally mysterious. I don't know why. It's a little Howard. It's a little Howard Hughes, and I love Howard Hughes, but I hear someone I want to know a lot about. So I guess that was it. You ask him a question.
Starting point is 00:05:10 He has another question. Go ahead. Well, I was just, this is more of just a statement. In the last couple of weeks, I've been going around saying a couple of things, one of which is Judy Garland never owned a car. that's a great one which was what you
Starting point is 00:05:29 what you were saying a direct from the great Nathan wasn't Nathan these are the Mickey it was so great I mean you guys have had so many great episodes
Starting point is 00:05:45 and to me it's some of the great ones or when it's just you two guys talking and but that Nathan Lane was so funny and the fact that the fact that Dana and Nathan's stories linked up perfectly. It was not like Roshamont.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Yeah. And, you know, that the Barbara Mandrell, Barbara Mandrell. Barbara Mandrell. And Nathan, and Nathan Lane saying it that he kept repeating it as if it was an incantation. Yes. And then, of course, you know, you'd talked about Mickey Rooney before in that great line of saying from 1937 and 1944, I was the biggest star in the world.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Wow. Number one star in the world. Do you hear me? Bang. The world. And these are direct. And so Nathan, I hadn't seen a long time.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I felt like we were literally, I stepped back to 1981 in New York with him. And so we co-signed these memories that I told these stories and thought, maybe I was a little exaggerating. Nope. It was spot on. The only thing I did disagree with, I thought the woman on the cover of the magazine, I thought it was Farrah Fawcett, but he remembers Barbara Mandrell, which is funnier.
Starting point is 00:07:05 It's funnier. It's funny. It is. Yeah. And you can picture her in 1981 being on the cover of people. And the other great one was Mickey throwing his arm around Nathan saying, you know what I like, you know what's great about us? We like girls. I'm just glad we like girls.
Starting point is 00:07:27 These are direct quotes word for word. I didn't even do that. You've heard my scatman Carruthers stories. He was another one that we didn't get to. But, yeah. He goes, Dana's a little light. What's so funny about that is like, you know. And what Dana is saying like, yeah, back then, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:43 he had kind of a floppy haircut and like sometimes we do these imitations where somehow these guys thought that, yeah. It's so funny. I mean, like, I think we talked when I was last on about how, you know, how fun it is to have worked, worked with those older guys. But then Mickey Rooney, that's kind of behind the generation that I ever got to work with. You got to work with Bert Lancaster and Scatman Crothers. I mean, that's a whole other story. And Kirk Douglas, yeah, Kirk Douglas and Bert. I know.
Starting point is 00:08:14 It's kind of weird. Well, since this is about you, I mean, I'm trying to just ascertain where you've crossed check. older actors and you're working with them and going, holy shit, I'm working with X, Y, and Z, as they say. You must have all those stories. You have such a long resume. Oh, for sure. And I mean, those are my, the, kind of the, really along with working with people from
Starting point is 00:08:39 SNL, which I've always loved, it's getting the chance to work with those kind of, I always look at them as like 1970s actors, even though some of them got started kind of well before that, but, you know, like Gene Hackman or Nick or Nick Nolte or Martin Sheen and those guys are just so great. And like Mickey Rooney, their stories somehow are just unbelievable. Yeah. Or not unbelievable. They're very believable, but you can't believe how great they are. But they're referencing all these cool things you remember. Yeah, it's really cool that you got to work with those guys from that generation.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Jesus, Reggie. Well, and also on SNO, we had, we had. I do have one. Sorry, it was just, we had Robert Mitcham and we had Charleston as a host, and that was very interesting. On SNL. Hanging out with those guys. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:32 How was Robert Mitchum as a host? You mean Bob? Bob, yeah. Bob Mitchell. Guy. He had the classic Jack Daniels bottle, like a half gallon of Jack Daniels. And he was. just stories about Vietnam
Starting point is 00:09:50 and politics and weirdness and we were in a Jack Handy sketch if you know the reference. Sometimes they're very esoteric and brilliant. We were playing beekeepers in the Himalaya Mountains and we're dressed in the outfit and neither of us ever really knew what the sketch was about.
Starting point is 00:10:08 But he was old school. Yeah, I remember asked, I knew Harry Dean Stanton, the great character actor I knew Harry Dean, knew Robert Mitchum. And I said, what was, I asked Harry Dean, I said, what was Robert Mitchum like? He said, great guy, always stoned. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:10:28 That's how it described Mitchell. And, yeah, he liked his Jack. But Harry Dean said he liked a couple of contales, right? I mean, that was old school back then. They had a bar on every set. Everyone was strong. He was a, he was a Dan Tannas fiction. Harry Dean.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Oh, yeah. I remember being on a plane with Harry Dean, and this would have been like 2001, and he asked the stewardess, you know, can I smoke on the plane? She said, no, you may not. And then he said, even in the bathroom. So, yeah, those guys were from another era. Here's trivia, Luke, that I, the first girl that dated me in El. L.A. when I moved out here, wound up with Harry Dean Stant.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Really? Not Rebecca D.A. Oh, from risky business? They were friends. Oh, I thought they were an item, but really? No, it might have been them, but that was, it was sort of probably in the middle because I am older. I'm not older than. That's the only person I'm not older than.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And what was your first year in L.A., David? And was it before SNL? Yeah, it was back away. I'm Dana now. It was just back then, you know. Yeah. What clubs did you play? They should call this The Evasive Hour with Dana and David.
Starting point is 00:12:10 No, they call us the vague runs. When we aren't recording, this little drive, the audience crazy. I'm going to tell you everything. I wanted to know if Luke has ever been called puke when he was a kid. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Luke to Puk. Yeah. Were you around for Luke Skywalker or was it you missed that? Oh, those were two big ones. The top two inches on the board. And you know, and my friends called me Puk. And I had another friend, Joey, who called me Sluke because
Starting point is 00:12:45 his his family said when I called the house, I'd say, may I speak to Joey, this sloop. Oh, this is Luke? This Luke? All right.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I would have called you Lucaleigh. Oh, Luca Lelele. What about Luca Plakey? Yeah, it's funny, Luca Plaky, and I'd never seen that movie.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And then in like, you know, like eighth grade, people started saying Luca Plakey, and I didn't get that. I was called Lucas because I was such a little puss, and I went out for football. And I was fragile. And I couldn't get the girls.
Starting point is 00:13:25 And I'm like, fucking put me in that movie. Lucas was a great movie. Football, I'm sure, was rather intense, like kind of Texas football. Arizona, yeah, yeah. People don't know. We must talk about last time. You have an enormous VO2 Max gift, which is unusual. When you told me your 880 time, I was like,
Starting point is 00:13:44 Damn. That's national class. V02 Max is, you know, this. So that's it. What I'm curious about with someone like you,
Starting point is 00:13:53 because Luke is an alpha male name, like a stud, right? So in high school, neither David and I, we could not really get girls. Were you popular in high school? Were you a late bloomer?
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yes. Yes. I, well, I went to this school that I went to this, no, I went to the school that was very academically oriented. No, it wasn't a military school.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Owen went to a military school. But I went to a boys' school that was very academically oriented, and I did not have good grades. So things were more kind of oriented towards honor roll, and this guy already had a scholarship to Princeton. But I did have, I had a really nice class, and I really liked everybody and got along with everybody. And so I, you know, it's like when you say popular, you think of like the, the homecoming king. But I just feel like I had a nice class where I got along with people. And not that, you know, you never had differences with guys. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Popular. Kevin, Kevin Costner graduated high school at five. It was hard. Graduated high school at 5-1, then went to 6-1. How tall were you when you graduated high school? You don't have to answer these questions. No, no, this is great. I think probably that I think I was about the same height that I am now about, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:25 511 or 6 feet. And then I'm always trying to figure out, I think I kind of weighed more in high school almost. I feel like I weighed like 170. I mean, I'd weigh that up. I feel like I was maybe kind of bigger in high school. Yeah, you kind of ballooned up lately. For a half mile. runner.
Starting point is 00:15:45 He's been with fucking Swartson for the last month. Oh my gosh. How embarrassing. Oh, I feel bad for him. He the, you know, a few, and I only say this because he was so public about it, but about, you know, six days into the movie, he went down with his appendix, which is hard enough. And we were in, you know, Louisville, Kentucky, but he was outside of Louisville. Are there any doctors in that city or no?
Starting point is 00:16:12 he was not even in louisville i don't think he was kind of out more kind of in a rural area um wow but he he got his appendix went and of course he was staying and you know like a you know a an extended state suite so not where you want to convales but his appendix he that he got hit with that had to get operated on for that then he got an infection and of course he making these Instagram videos all about the illness but we did get the movie done
Starting point is 00:16:48 and we had a good time and he was I mean to me I only know him from having done the ridiculous six with Adam Sandler and I just
Starting point is 00:16:57 that was when I first that was what I was in the ridiculous and I was in that too I know I know what is what to do was he writing jokes on it he was there for the yeah he was there for the he's very good at sitting it played a part
Starting point is 00:17:16 video village and cranking out jokes yeah and which which he did and then I had never been around him and just he's such a good guy and such a funny guy yeah he's so it was funny to do this movie we just did mini wars together because he is guy he's a character and he was playing a real character
Starting point is 00:17:38 I saw him with his watermelon head on Instagram and I couldn't help but shit all over him. Every time he posted something, I had no sympathy at all and I just make fun of him immediately. I know. At one point, I said to one of the producers, I said, should he be posting these videos kind of possibly on his deathbed? Yeah. Are we kind of like a football team where you don't want to be hosting about like I've got this, you know, Terry, where you, where your, where your, where your kickers just had knee surgery? But yeah. Yeah, I started, I thought, gosh, am I starting to now think like a producer?
Starting point is 00:18:20 But should he really be doing this? Is this? Yeah, exactly. Or this is just how the younger generation does it work? Nothing is, nothing is secret. Everything is shared. Running a business means wearing a lot of hats. But I used to find that traditional banking options always seem to slow me down with endless friction like plain phone tag just to chase down the status of an international wire transfer.
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Starting point is 00:20:06 I'm like, holy shit, man. Luke's- I know. Oh, and he knew that we went to dinner with us when we went to dinner. What was that place called? Go. Oh, yeah, Joe T. Garcia's. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Joe T. Garcia's in Fort Worth, where I'll never forget you, it's this Mexican restaurant that started in a little house. and then just over the years kept expanding and expanding to where it takes up a whole block and it goes through kind of an outdoor area, then into another building and through a dining room. But I'll never forget, as David walked up with the Mater D, David was saying, this place is bigger than chilies. It was. It was like five chilies taped together.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I went, they had Luke, they go, we'll take care of you guys. They put us like in a barn 100 yards away from the restaurant. I go, I don't think no one's working in this place. They just sent a guy in and sent a bartender there for us. We're like, I kind of want to get a feel for the whole place. I know. It's like that thing where I'm sure you guys have had it happen before. We'll put you in a special room and they lead you to a room where it's just you
Starting point is 00:21:16 and your two friends be like, well, we would like to kind of be maybe out in the bar. Yeah. It's kind of cold and dark. question. You know why? Because someone, we're not going to get, we're not going to get mob. We're not going to get beat up. Mobbed. Attacked. They had someone from like real housewives of New Jersey that went there and said, I need my own special room. So they're like, I guess we, I guess that's what these people want. They want that shit. And it is fun to go to a place like that. Because you want to see what the vibe is and get in there and mix it up. Oh, yeah. And especially like Fort Worth is a great town. And,
Starting point is 00:21:54 that is a that's my favorite you know Mexican food and in Texas pretty much this is usually the point in the show when when the guest asked you guys so so when does the show start always like when that happens you yeah no no buddy we don't this is good as it gets pal I mean this is it speaking of the show I had this I had a funny thing happen where I guess you guys will tell me if it's funny or not. It was funny to me. Let's hear it. But I was down in San Diego when I was, I was at this gym, and I'd stopped using those earbuds because I felt like they were kind of giving me tinnitus. And at the, you know, gym I'll go to in L.A. I just play it off my phone with no earbuds,
Starting point is 00:22:44 because, you know, there's that music, terrible music blasting. Everyone else has on earbuds. So, yeah, exactly. So, so. So I just. just listen to it. No one ever says anything. I just have it on loud and I'll be, you know, on the elliptical. But I'm down in this gym in San Diego where it was kind of older people, older than me. And, you know, same thing. I had it playing, you know, just off my phone with no earbuds. And finally, this older guy next to me was like, would you turn that off? I was listening to you guys. That's what I'm willing to. And he said, would you turn that off? shit off.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And I said, oh my gosh, I said, I'm really sorry. I didn't realize you could hear it. I could hear it. He said, would you turn that off? Okay. I said, I'm really sorry. And then he said, it's obnoxious. And I wanted to say, me doing that or the guy's on the show.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah. No, it's odd. It's odd. Good question. I can't believe Lovitz would say that to you. It's so out of character. It goes to your gym. Turn it off.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Is this the one where they make fun of me? You guys are always using that line. He says, we're like, jealous. Jealous? No, I saw him the other night for dinner, and he was so funny. He goes, oh, the bill came, he goes, I got it. And then he goes, my wallet. I just wanted to make sure I had it.
Starting point is 00:24:20 No, he does a whole dance. Man, he knows what he's doing. No, he said he'll split it with, he splits it sometime. Yeah, he will. Yeah, John's just eccentric. I took one day to know him in 20 years to believe it. He is great. He's another one of my SNL favorites.
Starting point is 00:24:40 He is always funny. Oh, no, he was a monster in the paint, if you know the reference. John Lovitz, N8H was a laugh machine. I just saw him, you know, I was clicking through channels. and saw him on an episode of Seinfeld where he was really funny. He's funny on everything. Every time he shows up, he's funny. He really is.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Excuse me. And he is one of those guys that he, you know, he doesn't appear to be exerting any effort. But you know, if someone got funny, they're very sharp-witted and kind of, you know, have ideas. I have a question when we're done talking about Lovitz, but which I do like to hear. When do you have any any of your movies? I can think of Tannenbombs where it's like a Halloween costume because I see some Tannenbombs, right? Right. It's kind of cool to see that.
Starting point is 00:25:33 That's the primary one it seems. It's a good look. Yeah, that's an every year I get pictures from different people. I like that. I think it's cool. And now pictures from, you know, people that weren't even born when it was out, but they'll have the Ritchie Tendon bomb character, which is my character, and then the Gwyneth Paltrow,
Starting point is 00:25:53 Mark Margo, Tenenbaum character. But, yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's some Joe Dirts. That's got to be a popular one. Goddirt is actually, I want to be more flattered, but it's pretty easy. It's like people go really low-fi. It's like last minute, I have jeans, work boots, flannel shirt,
Starting point is 00:26:14 maybe cut the sleeves off, and then some don't even put on a shitty mullet. They put on a messy, They mess up their hair. I go, no, you're not winning any contest. And they love hearing that. Because the Tenenbaum one is, you know, I'm always thinking, God, where did you get a camel hair suit and like this, you know, vintage,
Starting point is 00:26:36 vintage feela, you know, shirt and headband? So definitely always impressed by the effort that goes into it. Dana, do you have a Halloween character that gets me? It would just be Garth. Any high school girl with long blonde hair does the glasses, the flannel. It's too perfect. It goes like this. And, you know, yeah, it's, it's very cute.
Starting point is 00:27:01 It's very sweet. Yeah, David and I were playing this giant 5,000 seat casino and we go, let's do Q&A. So we come out and they're already, you know, the casino, it's pretty raucous in there. On the left, there was a teenage girl dresses Garst jumping down, screaming. I love you. I love you. I go, let's go to the other side of the stage. There was another teenage girl.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And then there was a Joe Dirt in there, too, I think. And we made them, and a tandem bomb. They're good, do you know, look, Wilson is. I really want to, I really want to see you guys live. And by the way, your travel stuff, you guys always kid around that you talk too much about the travel stuff. I think to anybody that has to travel for work, it's very appealing to listen to someone else's travel. We give you the lows, not the highs. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Whether it's the plane or the room, I just had a classic one where they wouldn't give me a key to my room after I'd been up and down and up and down. I said, oh, you're, you know, and I didn't have any ID. And I said, oh, you're going to give me a key. We're going to work. Oh, you're going full Luke on them, huh? Do you ever try to scam the maids into doing it? You go, when you're in, oh, yeah, that's, I stand by when they're there and I go. Sometimes it works. I know.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I always say I can describe exactly what's inside the room. You're going to see a green backpack and you're going to see a pair of pants hanging over the shirt when you walk in. They go, Luke, do you want, Mr. Wilson, you want me to get those towels off the ceiling? What accent is that? No, so people know if you're in the MGM Grand, you do your show, you have to walk kind of like a half mile to your room, and then it goes and it doesn't work. The worst.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And you're like, really? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's the walk that gets you. Yeah. They're like, go down to the Ferris wheel, take a right. Then it's about you're going to pass four bars. And then you're going to get on.
Starting point is 00:29:17 a lady Susan. Then, I don't like to fly, but the last time I came into Santa Barbara, it was a hard landing. I have no fear when we're about to land. I just don't like to take off, but the flight attendants both basically screamed. I was in the pointing part of the airplane and they were sitting there. I was like, bam! And I got to be the cool guy for once. What?
Starting point is 00:29:40 You got you okay? You're okay? You all right? Calm down. I'm more like on the takeoff. Blu-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-l. when they get scared when those flight attendants get scared
Starting point is 00:29:49 they pick up the phone and go what the fuck is going on that's when I get scared because I go they've seen it all no that's where I listen and I hear really that bad
Starting point is 00:29:59 okay we'll clear the set yeah I get anticipatory when you hear that drink cart just rattling it can be a little scary they go like this look they go
Starting point is 00:30:11 yeah they go a terrorist on this flight and they go okay and I'm like you shouldn't have said that so loud I'm sitting close I had a friend who was so afraid of that
Starting point is 00:30:25 we got on a plane and then there were empty seats and then 10 Middle Eastern men sat down and started going because they got over and I go it's too obvious just relax it's way too obvious nothing's going to happen but he was absolutely this was after 9-11 folks don't write me any letters
Starting point is 00:30:42 please no letters please don't let me do the metaphorical I just tried to film a fight out in the street. I was walking along and is fucking boiling out. And I'm like going through my day and I got this Luke shit I got to do. I just kind of going through it my head. This Luke shit? And our favorite reoccurring guy.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I know. And they finally excited about doing it once. And then I go and then I see this African American kind of black guy and he's walking by. Kind of black guy. There's a well, he's. There's a Mexican guy, and they're already arguing. So I go, could I film this? He's digging.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I go, should I film these guys fighting? Because then I can get on TikTok and be a big hero, you know? Because I always see fights. Everything I see on my TikTok is just fighting. So I start filming. Then the dude looks at me, and I go, hmm. I don't know what to do. So I walk away.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Then he runs and punches the dude and then throws him on the ground. And the guy gets up and throws him at him. and I'm like, should have filmed it. But anyway, then I walked down, blah, blah, blah. And then I guess I'm almost to my car. He's walking this way. He comes right at me. And I was like, because I know I'm the little rat that was filming him,
Starting point is 00:31:57 and I have the evidence. Right. And this is just another Monday. On the way here, yeah. Are you kidding? Yeah, that's like, I know, I swear. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:32:08 If this happens, a worst thing will happen. Luke will be sitting waiting to get on the Zoom like this. Right. On Instagram, somehow I'll get those videos of guys on golf courses getting in fights. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It must be a sign of getting older because I do not like to watch them. No, it's really rough because, you know, someone's day is ruined. Well, you'll see a guy with his shirt off being alpha, alpha, right?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Like, he beats up everyone in his life. And then some guy just knows how to box, co-cocks him, knocks him flat in front of his wife. First she's like, oh, go get him, you sexy beast. And then she's like, you're not so tough. Right. It's kind of sad. The only good one was winning. Lower to be guys that are, you know, in their 70s, you're like, gosh, this is just,
Starting point is 00:32:57 you think that you hopefully you'd get to that point and not want to be throw down. I don't always be getting in fights. There was one guy that was saying, I don't fight. Screaming at the other guy. And then finally, and the guy was kind of big, he was screaming at. And then he took off his shirt. He's like, let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah, I saw that one. And then he fucking threw him down. And then the guy got him again, he beat the shit. And he finds out the guy's a hockey enforcer. He's a real hockey player that beats guys up. He threw him around with a raggall. And the guy kept coming back and I'm like, do you have CT? Why do you keep coming back and get beat up again?
Starting point is 00:33:32 Now you have you're out of gas and you still got to go, oh, you fucking pussy. And then again, wham. Yeah, that's like whenever you see those flyweight bodies. And you think, okay, if you put kind of like an oversized t-shirt on one of these guys, they might just look like a little guy. But I do feel like I have a good radar for someone that's just kind of a badass that you'd never want. What does your YouTube feed you, Luke, at night? And you're just like, I'll go some YouTube clips.
Starting point is 00:34:02 It starts feeding you. Obviously, golfers getting beat up. What's in your rotation? I'm always shocked by how on the money it is. something I haven't thought of that I'm like, gosh, I cannot wait to watch this. A lot of it will be, you know, I got into a real like John Houston interviews phase. And then also I like like Mitchum on Dick Cavett kind of things. Love Dick Cavett.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Like, you know, rock, get a lot of rock and roll. I do get old clips from like Midnight Special of bands. Those are great. and the Don Kirshner show. And then there's a great one, like a European one called Rockplast, with this kind of funny bearded host. But it's,
Starting point is 00:34:53 you know, it'll be like the Rolling Stones in 1970. Oh, yeah. But that's kind of what I get the most, it seems. I like that. But yeah, I'm always,
Starting point is 00:35:03 YouTube is great. Just anything you're interested in, you can look it up. And, uh, but yeah, it's always fun to see those great old, you know, in those interviews where, you know, they're not bombing through the interview like
Starting point is 00:35:19 they do now on talk shows. They were just so much more conversational. Yeah, Dick Kavana was like a podcast. I get a lot of old Carson's. Yeah. The old Parsons are just great. And like I went through where I think I watched every Bob Newhart and Johnny interview. And those are so unbelievable, like them making each.
Starting point is 00:35:43 other laugh. And it's also so conversational, but there's just, you don't feel that vibe of, okay, you know, this story, then that story and this story, then an ice bucket, ice bucket challenge. And I don't even know if it's planned. Like, I mean, nowadays, I never knew that you have to sort of give them an idea of what you're going to say and tell them stories ahead of time. And they go, we like those stories. I, back then it really felt like, I don't know if it was planned or not, but it because it would have dead spots. which was fine, you know, they would just talk. And then we wouldn't have a good answer.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And then we'd be silent for a second. Yes, yes. Yeah, that's what I mean. There would be pauses in the conversation where Johnny would be like just looking and kind of smiling. Dana, you have great Johnny stories, even though it kind of ended with him. Maybe he had his feelings hurt by Carcinio. But did you guys ever get to kind of smooth it over? not really i kind of regret that it wasn't carcinio carcinia they're making fun of arsino as much as they're
Starting point is 00:36:49 making fun of us you see that carcinio so he was okay with that it was one where susan day came on and johnny didn't know the partridge family had been off the air so how's that show going and he felt in our monday before he started the show johnny apparently is she ed we're senile now did you see that he didn't say saturnite live so that that was that was a little bit of the show unfortunate but uh inhabiting johnny was just complete nebraskan earnestness you know so luke just came into and you shut up the mic and here you are and you're talking to dana garni and uh david spudler i guess there are some pretty fine entertainers is that right it's just this sort of that's why he's good with old people but i was and young people but i was going to say that
Starting point is 00:37:36 he was the king and there is no singular king now there's so many shows i mean colbert just got bounced, but like the competition and the intensity because all the other choices. But Johnny was the settled king by the 70s. Cavett made a little noise, but yeah. So that was. Tom Snyder was good. Tom Schneider, the tomorrow show. That's another great, you know, YouTube thing is the American Masters about Johnny
Starting point is 00:38:02 where he goes back to Nebraska. Yeah. Where you kind of see that other side of Johnny. you would hear about where he was a little more quiet and thoughtful. But yeah, Tom Snyder was great. He'd smoke a few butts during an interview. All right, sir. Fair enough, sir. Yeah, I went on his show once and then he didn't show, he didn't show up. I'm in the chair and the show starting the music, everything. And there's no Tom Schneider. And his first line, this was like 97 or something. He goes, so you make him fun of Johnny on the show. Why are you making fun of Johnny Carson?
Starting point is 00:38:38 He went right after that, like four years after the effect. and I said, you know what? Fuck you. And they cut that part. No, I disagree. Are you kidding? I'm kidding. As Johnny.
Starting point is 00:38:51 You know what, Tom? Fuck you. And the horse you wrote in on. Well, so anyway. Luke, it's almost by getting stuck in an elevator because that's my biggest fear. Oh, God. I, uh, it just shows how the news has changed. Like you, you could have written a book or had some great movie come out.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And people are like, so you're, were stuck on an elevator. But I, I, I, um, what, West Anderson and I,
Starting point is 00:39:20 and James L. Brooks had gone to the Academy of motion pictures. Ooh. Yeah. Sciences for the 30, for a 30th anniversary screening, a bottle rocket. Oh,
Starting point is 00:39:33 bottle rock. Cool. The first. And, and it was, you know, we went and got to walk around the museum a little bit, which is really cool.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I'd not been in there. And then we did a nice talk before. I say nice talk because it was great to do it instead of a Q&A after. But we did a talk before. West was great and really funny on stage. And James L. Brooks is always really interesting and thoughtful. And then when we finished that, we were going to go to dinner. And for some reason, you know, we were only one floor up,
Starting point is 00:40:09 but they put us on this. elevator and it was you know 11 people and the thing just stopped uh and i'd not been on i'd not been on an elevator that fully stopped and gotten stuck and i had on a sport coat and a tie and about you know 10 minutes in i'd take off the tie and then you know at about 20 minutes in took off the jacket and you know could not get out and eventually kind of pried the doors open you know that much to get a little air. And then, you had to eat James
Starting point is 00:40:45 L. Brooks. Did you have light? Was it, was it dark? Or did you have some ambient? It was, it was daytime. And then they did
Starting point is 00:40:53 have to call the LA fire department and looked out, you know, got the doors apart and saw those guys walking. And they,
Starting point is 00:41:03 they, we, we, we, we didn't feel that they were walking with the urgency that we would have hoped for.
Starting point is 00:41:11 But still, I said, hey, at least we're going to get to see some hunky L.A. Fire Department. But they did get us out, but it was over, it was over half an hour. And it was definitely, yeah, I'm not, not claustrophobic, but did start to think, you know, okay, you know, what would happen if there was a fire or an earthquake or something bad and we're in a metal box? Oh, yeah. What were the other people like? Did they interview you? Hey, Luke Wilson, were they civilians? So, quote, unquote, or were they part of the show? On the in the elevator, it was, you know, a few, a few publicists, a few people from the academy, Jamesville Brooks.
Starting point is 00:41:56 So, so, yeah, no just regular people. So, quote unquote. Yeah. Right. There was nobody that wasn't associated with the talk. But yeah, so we managed to get out of there. but it is a couple of people took pictures and and then it went I guess it's gone semi-virus. I'm just so I'm very curious about Wes Anderson because he doesn't do a lot of interviews. And in that situation, was his creative mind going like, is he going to put that movie or something? He seems his movies are so singular, Wes, you know. Wes was really funny on it because Wes got on the intercom. to maintenance and had this, I wish I could remember what he was saying.
Starting point is 00:42:41 And then, and then at one point, through the doors to the LA fire department, you know, Wes said, would you just at least give us an update? Are you making progress? And the guy was like,
Starting point is 00:42:55 sir, we're doing what we can to get you out of there, when we can get you out of there. And, and he kind of gave Wes a bit of a brushback bitch. which Wes took in good stride. But Wes was, I, James L. Brooks at the beginning was very quiet. And I thought, gosh, I hope he's not claustrophobic.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And then he got very funny and started filming it. I was, I felt like I was getting kind of a little more starting to think, you know, getting a little more concerned as the time went on. And it was airless, you know, to find. feel that airless feeling where you get that sheen of sweat on you. And then, yeah, just thinking, and when you look through the little, when you could get the door open, it was, it was a metal bars, a great, you know, it wasn't just an open floor where you just thought, okay, if they pry these open, we can at least jump out or crawl out.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And then the other side, the other side was this thick, you know, museum glass. I had a stuck elevator story. if you want to hear that. I would love to. My wife and I and Arnold Schwarzenegger are in an elevator. Hey, it's not a competition. Yeah. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:44:15 It stops and everybody's kind of quiet. It just stops. And we're just sort of waiting, waiting, waiting. And then it lurches a little bit. And then Arnold, two minutes of silence just goes, yeah, now it's getting interesting, you know. But he was like the Terminator. He was like, don't worry. I know how to do things in these situations.
Starting point is 00:44:39 They're going to come in the middle now. But this is a very interesting situation. But the elevator is supposed to go up and the doors are supposed to open, but we're stuck in the darkness. And I go, thanks for explaining that whole thing. No problem. Let me light a cigar and I'll tell you more. You don't mind if I smoke.
Starting point is 00:44:57 But most of that story was true until I went off on a flight of fancy. But yeah, this is getting very interesting. He was very cool. I will say that the, LA fire department was great. They got us out of there. They were very cool customers. When they moseyed on over there.
Starting point is 00:45:15 You know, I would say it would be less scary. It wasn't like backdraft. I'll put it like that. They weren't charged like this day. I love backdraft. It's a little more kind of check that door for heat. Yeah. Look, David, there are some things in life.
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Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah. That's mint. They're not just for after dinner. No, Luke, listen, I think that if you told someone, because I've been stuck, and my story is way better, I'm not going to tell it. But I've been stuck. And if you told someone, could you handle this for 31 minutes, you might be able to get your head around it. But people forget, you think you're in there forever. There's no ending.
Starting point is 00:48:09 That's why you freak out. It could be all night. So they hear 30 minutes. They go, I could do 30, but you're not told that ahead of time. So it's like being on a desert island or anything. You're on the runway for two hours. You go, I guess, but do you think there's no end? Right.
Starting point is 00:48:25 And, yeah. And they stuck, they stuck like a little spatula through. And you thought, okay, what the hell is that going to do? And then they stuck, you know, like kind of a clothes hanger thing through. And, you know, nothing is really doing anything. Nothing's doing it. Yeah. Was there a cake on the spatula?
Starting point is 00:48:44 That's funny. That's what I'm not kidding. That's what it looked like. Because, of course, you know, I'd said, you know, they'll have the jaws of life. They'll pry these open. They'll break the door off. I would think. But I did say at one point, you know, to the woman from the academy, I said,
Starting point is 00:49:01 you might need to call that the head of the academy now because the maintenance, they're not doing much. They don't seem to. Or at least call the president of August elevators. Just call the President Trump. How's to you, Dana? It's something happening. I like the name. No, that top, I mean, I'm sorry, interrupted.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I was halfway through your elevator story. And then I inserted Arnold. And then we finally got the rear of the spatula and all the stuff. But we're just glad you're safe, loop. But shouldn't we mention the show that he's on? Yeah. Hawk. What is with the Hawk and what the hell is that?
Starting point is 00:49:40 about. It's a golf. It's a golf. You got me there. I've been doing so much press. Did you see? I just a, it's a goal show. Oh, okay, you've been on a press tour for this. We'll make it interesting. I only did a couple of days, but it was coming off two weeks of nights. So, so I, you guys did nights on Swartz's movie. Oh, I didn't get. Do you just get an offer, kind of every day of something. Seems like you are highly in demand, Luke. Very. Just every day they go, there is this thing. You're probably not going to do it. But they like you to do this and that. And, you know, no. No, I'm sure it's just like, I'm sure it's just like with you guys where people say, are you working all the time where you say, no, you know, sometimes you're very busy.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And then other times it seems you're off for six or nine months, which, you know, can be, can be nice, too. I mean, I enjoy both. Or something doesn't come out, like, for a year. And they go, where you've been? One guy goes, the big question is, got any movies? When they get nervous, they don't know what to say. Got any movies coming out? I go, like, I remember someone asked me during the wrong missy.
Starting point is 00:50:57 I go, oh, yeah, the wrong missy on Netflix. They go, oh, I didn't see that. Got any other ones? Well, how many do I fucking need? It takes a year to shoot, a year to come out. when I was kidding around with Will Ferrell about that where he said he'd had a guy say like, so are you still making movies? And I said that one, one, one, one, one, and Will's like, yeah, I just had a movie come out.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I'm maybe like four months ago where I'd missed a flight up at Mammoth. And it was like, snowy day. The flights are only two days. I got the day wrong. And this kid working in the airport said, hey man, when are you? you going to make a comeback. Oh yeah. Come back. And I said, well, you know, you're already really down because you've just missed a flight. And I said, well, I got to get back to L.A. to get this comeback started. So how am I going to be at least two days before I start the old comeback?
Starting point is 00:51:58 But thank you for. He's like, get back on that audition circuit. I remember being at an event, first few months SNL, AFI, Kirk Douglas thing, Jimmy Stewart's over there and we're around this table. I remember people, he's 82, he's Jimmy Stewart,
Starting point is 00:52:14 Jimmy fucking Stewart. And they're saying, yeah, he's not working much lately. And I thought, you cannot win the game of show business. If Jimmy Stewart can't win it, what chance do I have?
Starting point is 00:52:28 Yeah, he's not really, fucking, you know, anyway. Even, you know, when those kind of old actors just kind of stop working in a dignified way, they kind of do that, whether it's like Gene Hackman or they kind of say it about Jack Nicholson now. Like, oh, well, you know, Jack, he's not working anymore. It's like, yeah, well, he's 86. It's probably, he has 40 classic
Starting point is 00:52:55 movies and three Oscars. Does that count for something? Right. So he's probably enjoying just sitting around with his art. You know what a good move is, and this is what I'll do, is when I see someone that hasn't been working for a while, what a strategy is a real strategy is they announce their retirement. They go, they're just not that many parts.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And so you never really have to do that because you sort of get forced into retirement from show business, but if you say that, it's your last swing of people going, you know what, they'd be good for this because you're in the paper again, one last time to announce a retirement. And they go, oh, okay. Well, maybe we should use them.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Right. But it always seems to be guys like Russell Crow or Daniel Day Lewis, where I, you know, Steve Martin had that great line where he said, you're out of the business for five years before you know it. No one gave you the memo. Yeah. Do they mention your brother to you a lot and try to contrast and compare or anything like that? Oh, yeah. They always and always get.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And of course, now we both have golf shows. So bring up, you know, bring that up. But that's another thing. People always want to kind of say like, are you guys competitive? And I can say, no, you, it's kind of like we're on the same team where you want the other person to do well. You know, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not the Everly brothers. We're not feuding. We actually get along very well.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Just very well. And we are in the business firmly and doing work. And this is. He looks a little like Richard gear and pretty woman here right now. Yeah, yeah. Dickie, Dickie Gear and pretty woman. With Jules Roberts. With no gray hair.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Like younger than that. Like early. like, Officer and a Gentleman. I don't know why I saw that. There's another great actor, kind of unsung great actor. Where's he been? hilarious. Richard Gear?
Starting point is 00:55:10 Richard Gear? No, he is a stud, yeah. Is that what you're talking about, Virginia? He was great. He is fantastic. Unbelievable. A gentleman on top of everything else. What's your go-to?
Starting point is 00:55:22 I'm always so curious about movies that you love. Just ran, you don't have to say your best or whatever, but movies that you would watch another time maybe or something like that. I'm just curious. Any favor? I'll throw out the Godfather just to start it. Oh, for sure, the Godfather. And the great thing about that is it's always on.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah. But I do love Chinatown, and that is one of those ones where I feel like I still don't understand everything about it, which is great. I watch Chinatown. Yeah. And like, like, I think, fade down away or fucking Pete Cotton is. Yeah. Yeah. James.
Starting point is 00:56:04 James Con wrote down too. Thief is supposed to go. What about they're redoing heat? I know. I saw that. But I think, I think what they're doing with Heat was Michael Mann wrote a book, which is a, not a precursor, whatever that word is. But I believe that's what they're doing. So it's like Val Kilmer's character when he was younger.
Starting point is 00:56:26 The De Niro character. And I read the book, it is great. Oh. The greatest thing about heat was I think that Pichino, when Pichino went full sudden scream, that was, what are you going to do? You're going to make a mo? I can't even. Was that in Kate Mandelini? But it was so brilliant, you know.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I was like Kate Manalini. Yeah. That was that showdown between De Niro. Was it the only scene De Niro and Pacino were in together? Yeah, did you guys just to go to Kate Manalini? Oh, fuck, yeah. I used to go there all the time.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I'm so mad it's over with because no one did anything with it. No, no. No, no. Stur and Doheny. Right across from Dana's manager's building. I'm going to life there for us. I have a manager.
Starting point is 00:57:15 What about, what about you guys? What are a few of your guys' favorite movies to that you can watch repeatedly? Yeah. You know, I love so. Island Green. I watched that recently. That's one. I don't know that I've ever seen it. I know what it's what it's telling me.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Edward G. Robinson. I like science fiction. Yeah. I mean, as far as yeah, that's, and Edward G. Robinson is so brilliant in that. And Charlton Heston. I love Planet of the Apes. I love 2001 Space Odyssey. As far as Redford in the in the 70s, some people don't like it, but I just look at, I look at three days of the condor, the way we were. I look at all the president's men. I mean, his run in there all the way to the natural and then the horse whisper, whatever, he's like underrated or something,
Starting point is 00:58:07 but his charisma, especially three days of the condor with Faye Dunaway in one of the greatest acting moments when she says goodbye to him at the subway station. And he goes, just don't call in it. I just need five minutes. And the hurt on her face is like as good as it gets. You know, it's like James Fonda and the China Syndrome, you know.
Starting point is 00:58:28 The China syndrome was unreal Silkwood too. I mean, yeah, Silkwood's one of those ones. I've tried to find it to watch. And it's not on Amazon. You can't find it on YouTube. I don't know. No, that was, I think Mike Nichols directed that. That's a great one.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah. Oh, fucking Silkwood. I like those mysteries with big stars. And I like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I love some terrible. I like you're always you're always doing that that's a good play scene where he's crying let's face it I'm a goddamn husband don't cry in front of the Mexicans what that guy say to you I think there's a lot of worse things than going
Starting point is 00:59:10 to Italy and make Italian Westerns I'm goddamn Italian Western how many seen one two let's face it I haven't been a stump man a long time and I like hanging out of your Haciena when you're out of town I'm Brad Pitt and there's no one cooler so fucking cut it, Quentin. I memorized the whole movie. I saw it 11 times. I just love movies. I love movies. That was definitely a two, two times in the theater for me, which I had not done in a long time. Yeah. You have to see it a lot. I love when you quote that,
Starting point is 00:59:45 Dana, and that's one that does have a lot of gold in it. Oh, yeah, it's, it's magic. One thing I was just, I was so curious because you just had a few minutes ago. Like if you have nine months off, what do you do? Are you a painter? Are you an athlete? Are you, you know, what are you doing with your time off? What's your, what's your hobbies? What's your muse? I'm all of these things you mention. I'm a painter. I'm an athlete. Are you? Okay. I snorkel. I sail. Yeah. I think you are. You're Renaissance man. I've been sketching you this whole time we've been that's funny hold it up I don't call myself a renaissance and other people do
Starting point is 01:00:31 yeah these are other people's word I do play a lot of golf and I go back to Texas a lot I don't do a I want to as I've gotten older I want to kind of try and do a better job traveling like Owen does a good job kind of going to
Starting point is 01:00:47 you know different countries and stuff isn't he good at going alone. I see him alone sometimes. I'm like, that's, I kind of would like to do that. I do that more than most people, but to travel alone, I don't really do. Yeah, I think he, like, you know, I've been, I've gone to London with him. He's been like, uh, we got to go over to Dave's house. I got to get my bike. And I'll be like, you, you keep a bike in London? Same thing in Paris. Like, you have to go to to Hobby's house. I got to get my bike. You have a bike in Paris as well? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Yeah. I hung out with it a little bit. He once said, you know, hey, you want to go to Argentina and surf? I guess so. I'm thinking of going to Gelson's in a few minutes. Yeah, exactly. I know. Argentina is that west of...
Starting point is 01:01:39 I just go back to Texas. Like, that's all I really do. Well, the only reason I bring up the artist thing is because I don't know if you heard this, but I was hanging out with Christopher Walkin a while back about a year ago. and I said, do you paint? And he just said, of course, all old actors paint. Like, of course you paint at a given point, but you're too young. No, I haven't taken it up.
Starting point is 01:02:03 But, I mean, it is one of those things where I just always appreciate when, you know, anybody has, you know, I don't fly fish, but I know those guys that do where you just, you know, you just appreciate having something where you can kind of lose yourself for a few, for a few hours. Yeah. But, like medit. So does this take us to buzzing around? No, I,
Starting point is 01:02:31 I, okay, another thing, one of my favorite things was when you guys were on Bill Maher recently, and, and you could, it was,
Starting point is 01:02:43 I, club random is great, is great as well. Um, where he interviews people and, you know, yeah, he spoke.
Starting point is 01:02:52 and he drank on it. Yeah. You guys did seem to be his favorite guests. But it was funny at the end, you know, where he seemed kind of high and had a good buzz. And he was like, I could sit here and talk to you guys for two more hours. And David said, I got to get to a dinner. I had a hard hour.
Starting point is 01:03:18 I know. I would have gone longer. Yeah. And he was serious. but I was like, that would be a great way to leave a talk show. Like, I actually got to hit it. Thanks for having me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:30 That had me laughing as much as anything. Because then he got really hurt. He goes, well, and I go, Dana can stay. I don't know. No, my wife happened to be in, I had to meet her. And, you know, it just, what happens is with these menailles, these comedians like Larry David and Bill Maher, they just love old-timey impressions in illicit circumstances. Like, they like, they like.
Starting point is 01:03:51 They laugh forever. I mean, it's crazy how much they love that shit. So I love to do it for him, you know. And he's a good laugh. Bill was funny because he's like half asleep, drunk and stone and laughing. And it's just funny to, he's a fun hangout. Yeah. We'll do that again.
Starting point is 01:04:08 He is, it is different than he is on real time. He's great on real time, but he does seem like on Club Random, like he is at home just catching a buzz with people. But he really, no kidding, he seemed to enjoy you guys more than any other guests I've ever seen on there. Even though I did notice David was a little more quiet than Dana and reserved during that show, Bill was trying to kind of talk about, you know, being single and still I didn't like that.
Starting point is 01:04:44 He didn't like that. David was not getting down with that. I'm like, Bill, I haven't seen you out in 10 years. Where are you getting? He's like, this worst thing, he's like, we like the younger guy. I'm like, shut. Right off the top. Right off the bat.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And David looked like suddenly like he was on 60 minutes. He was just kind of turned into a statue. I was staring at him going, Bill, just say you do. I don't care, but don't try me. He was definitely doing it like a, hey, you and me, we like. And he's like, we don't apologize. I'm like, me again? Am I still in this?
Starting point is 01:05:20 I know. As asking Dana like he was an anthropologist about married life. Yeah. Yeah. I was like an exotic insect. He was trying to understand, you know, 43 years. You're telling me that when you walk in the door and it's the same woman, you don't want to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:44 What do you do then? You don't want to do it like the end of five easy pieces and just get on a bus and leave? Great reference, five easy pieces. Take your ham sandwich of that whole thing. It was fantastic. I just want the bread. So remove the bacon and the tomato. The best thing in the world is to be in some movie that people have seen and liked because it doesn't happen often.
Starting point is 01:06:12 But like Luke, when people see you in movies and you go, I've watched that 100 times. And you go, if this is anything like when I used to. watch a movie, then this is the ultimate compliment. Because I know. It's so hard to get one right and being a good one. I can never quite, you know, kind of accept it because I know how I feel about those kind of movies. And I just think, how can they feel that?
Starting point is 01:06:39 It's like when, you know, but yeah, I know what you mean. And you are so lucky, yeah, to have people say, you know, we watch this. You know, me and my friends watch this once a month. Yeah. Me and my dad watch it. Me and my kids watch. You go, fuck. Which one is the biggest banger?
Starting point is 01:07:00 I mean, tenor bombs for the costumes, but is it some West movies or some of the some of the Will Ferrell. Reducing it a little bit. Old school and those ones. I think old school and idioticry. But there's so funny. There's somewhere like idiocry just was such a flop when it came out. that you're then that's the feeling I have about it was just a failure yeah so then when people
Starting point is 01:07:26 quote it to your say they love it you're saying oh thank you thank you but there's still for me there's still the sadness there and even like where were you yeah yeah my judge right mike judge yeah yeah yeah people mention a lot like this is like idiocracy like it keeps coming up people like this is they predict it is exactly and then so at least it made a dent that's all you want is some culty. Exactly. And then now there's the last made a movie called the Family Stone. So I'll have people say that me and my family. We watch that every year at Christmas and Thanksgiving. Nice. And you just can't, I don't believe it. I don't believe you. I have one called Trapped in Paradise where we just fell down in the snow for three months. Me, Nicholas Cage, John Lovitz.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I mean, people go, it's on our holiday list. I go, really? Let's unpack that. It doesn't even make sense. we're just falling down in the snow nine weeks of nights for these guys on top of it being not well received I mean I just did two and a half weeks of nights it will make you feel like you've like you've lost your mind and you know being older makes it so much harder
Starting point is 01:08:39 I think I think I did a month of nights you know when I was like 28 or something and you just yeah you're so lost You know what you get home. People are going to bed. You're going to work. It doesn't. That's so weird.
Starting point is 01:08:54 I mean, I've got some nights coming up. Usually if I'm part of the writing, we troubleshoot the script for nights. We go, this is fixing a bar in a night. It could be in the day or not. Could anything be in the day and it still makes sense? Right. You're like, it doesn't need to be night.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Yeah, okay. It makes a big difference. Everyone's fucking out of it. Yeah. People get loopy. And, you know, then it does. Yeah, and then you get home and it's a very odd feeling unsettling to me almost when you're trying to go to bed. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Just for a second ago, I mean, I remember telling John Voick, who's hanging out in New York for a while when I was doing Ess now and got to know him. And he was talking about coming home and the champ and John Void and Deliverance and stuff. And the only thing he said was, you know, we worked really hard. on those movies, really hard. So he didn't disown them or go, yeah, it was pretty good. But deliverance is one of those movies hard to watch in a way. But it's, you know, and that guy who had his way with, who's the actor. Ned Bady.
Starting point is 01:10:08 He was at a gym I used to go to in L.A. for a while. And you would do that to you? No, he tried, but no, he said that Ned out of private. with it. I thought it was fine, but he had a problem with it. I'm sure he did. That's something like, hey, we just wrote this at Video Village, Ned. We're going to throw something at you. Let's try to. Well, Gilbert Godfee had that great bit where they're trying to get Ned Beatty out of the trailer to shoot the scene. Ned. Ned. We're ready on set. Ned. So anyway, if you don't know the movie, look it up, kids. It's great. John Borman, I think, from that. And it was
Starting point is 01:10:48 Oh, good memory. From a James Dickey. The book is great. To Lewis, remember that name, Lewis? Lewis, yeah, yeah. And, of course, Bert Reynolds in that was so awesome. Yeah. Remember what you were saying about coming home and it being hard work?
Starting point is 01:11:08 Because I do remember, you know, John Boyt reading that he spent a lot of times with, excuse me, a lot of time with Vietnam vets and that great speech he gives to the high school, I think a lot of that he kind of made up and was it was kind of unscripted. And that's, that's another one of those Hal Ashby classics. Like you mentioned, ones you can watch over and over, like the last detail. And, yeah. But I don't, I don't, I don't mean to keep, no, I don't, I don't mean to keep you guys. I feel like, Bill Moore, I can talk to you guys. I got a dinner. That's when David, David says, I have a lunch actually down at Craigs. It can't be at Craigs.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Craig's just up until five. You got to lose. I got to get there and get in line. Just so make your publicity department happy. This is the longest we've ever done. When does Hawk come out on what platform? Just make... Hawk comes out July 16th on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Ooh. And it's 10 episodes and it stars Will Ferrell and Molly Shannon. Fortune. Fortune. Fortune, who's great. She's awesome. And Jimmy is in it. He's incredible.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Chris Parnell. That's what I was going to say. Chris Parnell is in it. But yeah, it's actually, it's very funny. And Will is great. And I know you guys are fans of his. Oh, yeah. He's a,
Starting point is 01:12:38 he's a, all time. But I really appreciate you guys. I really appreciate you guys taking the time. Because the show is great. And I, I mean, Like I was saying, I love it when it's just you guys talking sometimes even more than a guest.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Although there was one time when I just remember tuning in and Dana said, Dana said to David, you got pink guy motherfucker. And I was like, this is what I feel like these guys, it's not just about Hollywood and us. It's like hanging out with friends when you were in high school or age day. Well, we do forget that we're kind of, this is the new broadcasting that we're actually sort of on new television. So you got pink eye motherfucker. I'm going to make a t-shirt out of that. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 01:13:35 I do remember that. David never gets defensive. It's like ping pong. Anything I throw at David, he just, millis second. He goes right back, right back at it. It's always funny to hear Dana say something. just keep going. Thank you, though.
Starting point is 01:13:48 That's pretty nice. You made my day. You really like Clint Eastwood in that movie because you're actually listened to this and actually kind of like it. Yeah. We don't get a lot of feedback. So that's very nice. I don't miss them.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I really don't miss an episode. So thank you guys. You're a good dude. You look like Richard Gear when you see you turn to the side. I'm telling you, Dan. And we'll figure it out one day, but it's a compliment. All right, listen, if you're enjoying the fly on the wall, of course, hopefully you are. Click follow.
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