Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Marcello Hernandez (IN STUDIO): New SNL Intersects Old Skool

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

Fresh off presenting at the Grammys, Marcello Hernández (aka SNL’s Domingo) joins the guys in studio. He shares what it was like chatting backstage with Queen Latifah, his love for Olivia Dean’s ...music, and how surreal the whole Grammys experience was. Then it’s all Saturday Night Live: the origins of Domingo, how Marcello landed his first sketch, and the biggest on-air bomb he and Dana ever shared. They also get into whether Marcello texts with Lorne Michaels and who could possibly take over when he retires. Plus, the guys get a Spanish lesson for the ages. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:04 and she spoke Spanish to me. And I was like, you speak Spanish? She was like, of course. Like, you know, she's just, she's that. She's the coolest. Look at me, no impression. Of course I speak Spanish. I pulled it.
Starting point is 00:01:14 That's your Queen Latifah. And he was Mexican. No. I can't believe I'm sitting here. No, I said that so far. I can't believe it. Wow. I heard it.
Starting point is 00:01:24 I heard it. I heard it. I'm next to Dana Carby. I don't know what he was doing. Oh, sorry, David Payne. Oh, there. He's like, I think, oh, well. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:01:33 That's Sebastian. I just got booked on a bigger podcast. What a loser. So we've got Marcello Hernandez. Marcelo Hernandez. He's a spark plug from Saturday Night Live. Saturday Night Live. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yes. And we did a sketch with them. We did a sketch. church lady with him and David did his now infamous and hunter hunter Biden Paula my wife loved your hair by the way as hunter Biden said whatever that was do that you know it's funny because my almost my hair like this but it was still a wig uh because they really want to nail it perfectly and you get the hair a lot everything uh and i Sarah Sherman was in that with us as Matt gates so anyway Marcello we don't know him that well uh we watch his stuff he has a special out on Netflix but I
Starting point is 00:02:27 I really get along with him. He's a fun dude. He stayed after. We went to lunch, and then last night he was at the comedy store. We all went over there and just goofed around. Yeah. Super fun. When I was there last fall, I did a sketch for, you know, because I was asked to be in this weird show.
Starting point is 00:02:45 He does like a telemoral parody. And I came out and I went all out and played a dead silence. And he talked about, we talk about that. It's funny. I like how you say it haunted you for months. You know, you're just sort of, it's just sort of a strange feeling, you know, when you commit that hard. But the sketch is really funny because it's so bizarrely abstract. Like anything could happen any second in it.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I like he's broke it down to camera angles and writing and wherever it was and the placement. It's so interesting to hear that stuff about a sketch and then you go watch it. People watch on YouTube. Hang out with him, you know, he's a man with a plan. He sees, you know, he's just kind of at a point where he's starting to get really famous. So forth and so on. New movie with Kevin Hart coming out. He's got a lot of stuff happening.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Very humble, nice guy. Here he is, Marcelo. I want to go for a long time. And then we're having lunch, right? You're buying you lunch. Oh, Jesus. What out for lunch, you said? We can if you work.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Is this your kind of mic dropping me? You've been running, running. Are we recording? Yeah. Saturday live. Did you do anything canceled on this? No. Okay, because I can't wear it if you did see you.
Starting point is 00:03:55 It was called a hit show across the international. I'll do my koi Hans for you. Whoops. What are you going to do? Well, just the koi Hans. Uh-oh. We have to hope he knows all of our old shit. Someone is getting famous.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I can't turn on the TV and not see him. Crushing on SNL and the gramming. Oh, yeah. It's a tufa. So, anyway, our guest today, I had to do it, but we know each other. I know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:04:33 We'll put it in later. No one ever applaud. Yes, great. Well, I will say you have two guys in here that can only be described as what, what? They both look like they say what. This one's at COVID since I met him. And this one has lupus. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I made that up. Okay, good. It's not out of funny work. So anyway, we should say that when I was on SNL for that 10 weeks, that's what we got to know each other a little bit. Got to hang out. You gave me a sweater. Oh, this is a sore subject.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah. Why? No, it's not a sore subject. Did you tell people that I bullied you out of the sweater? Not at all. Yeah, he did, right? No. Took it off his back.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Give me that. Give it to me. I'll let Dan. It's very me. People go, oh, he's a people pleaser. I've decided, no, I'm nice. Does it have to be negative? But I already liked you a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:26 You were so cool. But here's what I want to know. We're a photo shoot for the New Yorker magazine. No. Does that S&L issue? Where I hung out with Christopher Walken for like an hour by myself with him. You were doing so many bits to him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:42 He was doing a lot of bits to Christopher Walken. But this is funny for old people. I said to him, do you paint to Christopher Walken? Do you paint? He's 82. Casa paint. all old act is paint quote just like that
Starting point is 00:05:55 it's true so anyway so this I want to address that I'm wearing sunglasses because I'm trying to send the message that I did have I went to a party last Oh yeah you were the Grammys I went to Pilms I mean this is because you're coming out Thursday
Starting point is 00:06:05 Whoops We don't hold you're pushing you on Don't hold it Nobody holds Hernandez It's immediate We'd release it live if we could But just really fast Why didn't you have a shirt
Starting point is 00:06:19 We're at this photo shoot and there's a place with clothes. You have a shirt? All of a sudden, your shirtless go, does anyone have a shirt? That's my first time ever, like, dealing with, like, a photographer that has, like, an artistic idea. And it was scary.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I don't know. I get scared with stuff like that. I don't know what to do. Wait, you didn't have a shirt when you came? No, I had a shirt when I came, and they were like, take it off. Maybe, yeah. And then you couldn't find it.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Where do I intersect? I walk in to look for my clothes and you say to me. I say to you, I need a shirt if you don't mind and because I came in with like they took essentially I think I like I don't know what happened I must have messed up my clothes
Starting point is 00:07:02 Were you roofy? Messed up your clothes and somehow they got lost? Yes and then I didn't find it And I needed a shirt Told me take my shirt off on my hand I like underdressed to this because I was late and I was scared I was late because it was like a bunch of famous people there
Starting point is 00:07:14 So we showed up late and it was cold out And I didn't have a sweater So I asked can I please have your sweater And you were like of course You said it to me right at that moment walk and said, liar! But anyway, no, then I said fine, but all I had was a crew neck sweater
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Starting point is 00:07:37 TMI. This sweater is nice. Thank you, man. I just, they discontinue the sweaters. That's the only thing. Oh, no. But it was from Gap. Yeah, but it is a certain fit.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah, all right. That was my story, David. Let's go over the Grammys. Back to you, David. Let's go to the Grammys. Let's go to the Grammys. Any highlights, anything, any Chateau Marmont party. Dude, it was cool.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Yes, to Chateau Marmont. Oh, you did go? I went to there. It was probably like my first real, like Hollywood, like real Hollywood thing outside of SNL. Yeah, like, and I presented. So I went backstage and I saw Queen Latifah. And I was like, oh my God, Queen Latifah.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And she spoke Spanish to me. And I was like, you speak some. Spanish. She was like, of course. Like, you know, she's just, she's that. She's the coolest. Look at me. No impression. I speak Spanish or not. I pulled it. That's your Queen Latifah. I'm going, now I'll skip that one. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:08:33 But yeah, so many, like, and Olivia Dean won this award and then she came offstage crying. And then she had the moment with like somebody on her team. It's like, you, you've won a Grammy. And they're just crying and jumping around. So it was like an emotional evening, I think, in general. And, um, because there was a little young artist winning.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Felt like a big, like, you know, Olivia Dean is new. I barely had heard her. Bro, she's the coolest. But she seems like gorgeous, cool, funny, and she really had good. What popped in the room? I'm watching on TV.
Starting point is 00:09:02 But where did people go? Because I have a, I have a, what popped for me on TV the most. But in the room, was it Justin in the boxers or what was it? I feel like it's, I feel like a lot of stuff pops because I didn't know it was in an arena.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I thought it was like critics' choice We're taking in the theater, smaller. It's in a full-on arena. So they're happy to see everyone. There's a bunch of fans all up in the thing. The celebrity area or whatever, the nominees and stuff and presenters, it's a small group. So people go crazy for just about everybody.
Starting point is 00:09:37 So, yeah, it was a lot of that. A lot of like during the commercial, I've never been before, but what I saw is during the commercial, you get up. You get up and you say hi to the people. And you go, I'm a fan of yours and all that stuff. And they bring in seat, feel. Sometimes when people win, like a golden holder, they leave if they win or don't win,
Starting point is 00:09:53 and now they bring in seat fillers, so it never looks empty, but there's less and less populated stars. The seat fillers, it's a sad thing to watch sometimes. Because they sit down. I saw this one girl, she's a seat filler. She sits down. The guy goes, can I get you something to drink one of these guys?
Starting point is 00:10:08 And she's like, yes, I'll have a water. And the guy goes, no problem. He hands her the water. And she goes, she goes to put her lip to it. And then somebody goes, up, up, up now. Get up now. Out, out. out.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And then somebody famous sits there. So that was a lot. That is so funny. It is very sweet. I'm a filler and then they take them away. At the SNL 50th, they gave me a juicy front row seat.
Starting point is 00:10:33 And then they go, and then she's like, it's you, then Bill Murray and Brandy Carlyvallelagia. You go, great. So I sit down and it's empty and they're like five minutes. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:10:41 and then they go, everybody sit down. And then I'm waiting for Bill Murray. And then this fucking seat filler comes in. I can't believe I'm sitting here. I'm a seat filler. I go, fucking shit. I can't believe it either.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And he was, he was Mexican. No. I can't believe I. No, I said that's a little bit. I can't believe it. Wow. I heard it. You heard it.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Right. I'm next to Dana Carby. I don't know what he was doing. Oh, sorry, David Payne. You're thirsty. This is why I don't do impression. You're dirty. No, it was a hint.
Starting point is 00:11:08 It was just like a hint. Yeah, it was a little bit. No, he just said, aye caramba. Why do you say about what? I thought he was me. David is paid. Yeah. From lies out.
Starting point is 00:11:17 No, I will say. From Lice out. Lice out. Oh, I thought I said ice out. No, no. Lice out. From ice out, yeah. From ice, get out.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I don't know. Because I work there, maybe. So. It says, did you get people. I'm out. Because you're emerging. This is my theme of this podcast. People coming up to you going, I just got to say.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I got to say. Because you're new to that club. You've seen a million celebrities, SNL. Yeah. But then all in one room? I can't tell you all. Who fanned out the most on you, but go ahead. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You can never tell if it's real. Right. You can never tell if they really know you. But if they say like you're funny or something, you're like, okay, at least you know what I do. Right. But I think it is crazy. So like, I went up to Queen Latifah like a child. And I was like, Queen Latifah, I love you.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's so nice to meet you. I think you're amazing and we love you in my house. And then she's like, and I know you are very funny and I love what you're doing. And thank you for bringing, you know, the Latino energy to SNL. and I was like, those moments are surreal to hear them. And then you said to her, do you know the character of Domingo? Do you know it? No, no.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And she goes, I got to go. I'm Queen Lativa. And you start doing the Domingo dance? Yeah. What's that? Not that. No, he has epilepsy. You can't even dance in the impression.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Domingo is cool. I mean, populates the show, right? Yeah. It's a very. I think he's retired now. Have you toned it down on Domingo? Have you said maybe? Well, it's not mine, so I don't...
Starting point is 00:12:48 Oh, they write you in it. Right. Oh, oh, oh. You're not in charge of it. Yeah. But, I mean, I can't say that it didn't, like, alter the course of my life. Sure. Domingo.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Well, so what you're doing it. They didn't get James Austin Johnson to do it. I mean, you had to be you because... Because he's Latino. And it's me and the janitor and the janitor has no experience. Are you supposed to be good looking in it? Huh? Are you supposed to be kind of a sex symbol?
Starting point is 00:13:14 Because the sole patch does a lot. a lot. Yeah, I think so. But I like that they made him a doctor and a veterinarian. Is he? They gave him a good job. Yeah. They didn't do the Latino trope. Like, I'm not a sexy gardener or something. I have a, I have a job. I let you finish those sentences. I wait. Yeah, no, but Domingo was big. Sebastian, of course, is big. Sebastian. Do you ever do Sebastian, do you ever do Sebastian? Oh, yeah. I love doing Sebastian. You got you by the pool, the guy's, a clip in his stone. I, you can't exaggerate it.
Starting point is 00:13:49 But you own it now. I love it. You killed it. And I love impressions. And I love when you got the stuff on. I just love that. He's the best. I was telling him at the critic's choice that I want to see, I can't wait to like,
Starting point is 00:14:02 I want him to play a father-in-law. Like, I think, oh, well. Jesus. That's Sebastian. I just got booked on a bigger podcast. What a loser. Hey, man, it's not the first time. Chevy Chimmy.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Case only made it 10 minutes. That was pretty good. I'm so scared to be here. We're going to take it out, unfortunately, but it's a great one. No, I can't wait to see him be a father-in-law. I told him this. I did a, try to do it a bit to him. Thank God he liked it, but it was right before we presented it at the critics' choice.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I was like, you as a father-law would be hilarious just to see a girl, like your daughter, be like, and I actually went to the doctor last week, and my husband, Jason, he couldn't come because he was working. And just a camera straight to Sebastian. Guys got a job. It's more important than my daughter. Some of the limbo. She said my daughter to the doctor by herself. See, if you've done this yet.
Starting point is 00:15:00 You got him beginning. This is another lane, though. This is great because it's another flavor. It's a whispery, almost swallowing the work. She's not going to tell me that your little job is more important. important in life of my baby. You understand? This is a feast.
Starting point is 00:15:18 She's a good girl. And she never did nothing to you. When are you going to do them next? I don't know. On the show. I don't know. I'll review them again. Local news is in decline across Canada. And this is bad news for all of us.
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Starting point is 00:17:01 Like if you, but the first thing I ever did on the show was a Lauren request. The first thing that like ever was good was the baseball thing about how white baseball players are boring to watch. And Latino baseball players are fun to watch. It was, I had nothing in the show with my second show. And he brought me into his office and he was like, um, mm-hmm. Oh, it was his idea?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Yeah, he was like, I don't want to do a Lord impression, but I have a good one. If you could do Sebastian. I have one. Okay, go ahead. But he goes, everyone has one, but do the story and then tell us afterwards. Yeah, he goes, um, he goes,
Starting point is 00:17:40 did you see Aaron Judge? He just hit a big homer. And I think it'd be good to have something about me. baseball this week. And then I was like, you got it. Something Mexican? You're like, of course, of course.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I'm not saying this because you're of Latin heritage. It's just, it's that thing of like a baseball player and they can be festive and theatrical. It's just that thing of like it's funny, which is a good thing. Well, all he said was baseball. He was like something about baseball. And then I've had this bit that I think I did in my audition that he kind of maybe remembered or somebody told him like Marcel has a baseball thing.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And then I did that. And that was like the first time that I think the writers and everybody saw me do something funny on the show. And then that's a big deal when you do your first funny thing. Then you get written into more stuff. They don't really know everyone's sort of a blank slate until, and you go, why don't they write for me? And I used to say that.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And like they don't know even what you're funny about it. So if you give them some hook or angle, even around the office a little bit sometimes they bite on something go what is that? Maybe we could play with that or you could... A hundred percent. Without looking too thirsty, but you can do that. But if they know you did in your act
Starting point is 00:18:55 and they saw your audition, that's perfect and you're just waiting for that scenario like the playoffs or some big game. But he's done that a few times. Like he's been like... Like he's... With me and Jane, the couple you can't believe her together. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:11 He's like, we were like... Because I think it's tough to bring something back. there feels like a little bit of entitlement when you're like, this should come back. Like when you think of it, it feels gross. We should be back. But he, like, I think he's brought it back before. And we were like, oh, amazing.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah, we'd love to do it. I think when I like something, I want to see it again. Yeah. As long as there's some other little tight twist. But you can't be the one because when you go, you can't be the one gone. Because one time Lauren said to me,
Starting point is 00:19:40 which I didn't say it, but he goes, everyone's going to tell you you're the funniest person on the show. you're not. He said, they say that to every cast member. Right. Because they do. Everyone goes, why aren't you on more? You're actually really good.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Well, that's true. Your team. And everyone thinks that, and I was victim of just only people I would see that, whether they they thought or not, they go, you should be on more. And so I didn't say it, thank God. But he said that. I was like, oh my God, that's fucking brutal and true. He's a baseball manager.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I need you to come. He is. Yeah. Now, you did baseball when we were, who did you play? Pete Alonza? Who did you play when we were. Oh, I played one. On church chat.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Oh, on soda, yeah, that's right. Yeah, on church chat. Yeah, me too. Yeah, who did you play? Hey, man, we got the team back together. I know who played. You played Trump's son. No, I played Hunter Biden.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Oh, Hunter Biden. Biden's son. Fucking guy was that. It was close. It was a son. Come on, let's not get. He's like, you played. The boys are back in time.
Starting point is 00:20:36 No, he was church lady, mad at Biden. What was, was Sarah in a two? Sarah was in a two. You nailed it. Sarah did Matt Gates. Well, the look. was hysterical. Which camera?
Starting point is 00:20:47 Which camera? Did you, you know, one thing I noticed about you, this might be kind of, that you're a boss. What? Well, like, we're doing that sapato. What's the thing when I came out? We'll talk about that in a second.
Starting point is 00:21:01 One of the biggest bombs. It haunted me for months. Let me show a clip of data doing this. We'll talk about that in a second. But I noticed that you, in a nice way, casually, you're like talking to Liz and like, I think this should be here, here. Same thing with the baseball player.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I think I should do this and this. You know, and that's, you're like, that's really, really a great skill set to have. Well, I don't know if I'm a boss in general, but with Latin stuff, I do feel like. In a loose sense, people really, you know, they sort of look out for their character or the sketch, that's all.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Or also the camera, you're like, make sure if I get up, make sure you stay on me. Or I'm going to do something like this. So cover it. Because sometimes they're like, we weren't on you. Or you do a movie and you ad-lib, something, they go, great, let's do it again. We weren't on you.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I'm like, oh my God. It's something that really works in the moment. But that's good. That's smart. At least you have the ball. That was a tough thing. Well, that day? Yeah, I think it's just like.
Starting point is 00:21:54 No, I know what happened, but you tell your side of the story. What do you think happened? I think that I'll be honest. I dead serious thing that they didn't hear you. Like, I think that we were playing so much with the voice and stuff. Right. And I probably swallowed the venet. I don't think you swat.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I don't know. I feel like because your character is so fun. And I think sometimes the biggest thing that happens at SNL sometimes is you forget you're in a theater. Right. And like the, I think on TV it probably translated it a lot better. But in that room, you have to be so clear about what you're saying. Yeah, you just hit it wrong. Because the room won't hear you and then you feel like a lot of.
Starting point is 00:22:32 The origin of that sketch, just explain it for a time. Sabado Gigante, Don Francisco's show, one of the most legendary shows. He did this big game show. It was like our Wheel of Fortune mixed with Lori. It's avant-garde, non sequiturs coming at you. Insane, yeah. Characters jumping out, El Chacal, a guy that just plays a trumpet in your face. Makes no real sense.
Starting point is 00:22:54 A big, funny characters, like a children's show almost. Yeah. And it was also like American Idol, but only the bad, like, he would only bring out bad singers and they would sing really bad and then have the whole crowd go, out of here, out of here. And he would like, get the crowd around up. I love it. It was hard to make it.
Starting point is 00:23:13 It's, it is like, there is a degree of difficulty in making something like that in a place like SNL when maybe like one or two people know the show. So, right. But I think, I think it's, I look back on it as a great bonding thing for you and I, just going back and forth with you doing Latin voice in my face all time. Yeah, I was doing that. And then, like, you came in like 20 minutes before air and sort of just, because I, because I was just like, you were the captain of the sketch.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Like, what do you want me to do here? But I think the initial instinct with that one was doors like this. I'm back. I come out, and it closes, right? Which is funny just saying it like that. That's funny. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:53 But then somehow we got excited. We did. We did. We all come downstage. So it put pressure on it, even though there was no real laugh point. But I committed really hard. You did. And I'm dancing out.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I'm totally thousand percent. And you go behind those slats, dead. silent. Oh my God. No eye contact. All the crew, everyone, you go, hey, and they, I think it's the ultimately for something like Salvadori Ganda, you doing that and it making no sense. And the crowd being a little bit confused. Yeah. It makes sense for the show. You know, it goes back to the sketch. Old sketch is like Cheeberg, Cheever, I watch them and they don't get laughs. You go, oh, because they're teaching you to like it. They're like, this is our sketch. Right. The next time it comes on, more laughs. And the next time everyone goes. We find, we find
Starting point is 00:24:42 I'm in New York and that's on. I want to do a cameo. You don't have to pay me. No, I would love that. Did you guys do the Italian one where you're like helping the people? The old cantori, was that it? There were two kind of the big, Christy Alley, yeah. Yeah, and I had Victoria Jackson's legs on my, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:02 So I did one with Miles Teller, and we were just doing little sexual innuendos. Yeah. And then somebody, like, immediately sent me that one, which we, like, I, like, I had known about it, but I hadn't watched it recently. And I was like, oh, this is just better. This is just ours, but better. Back when you could do, you know. You could do it.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Unless they got in trouble for that, I think. You guys did. I think they pretended because I had done Victoria's legs over my, you know. And so it's not grinding, but it implies a lot. And then they, right before we went, you know, three, two, one, smigel was pretending to try to reach me. Oh, never mind. So you could say to the censorship people,
Starting point is 00:25:44 we didn't get the note to them. Oh, my God. Right before. But, you could do a lot more in those days, though. Yeah, I know. You could really go for it. One time I said on update, I was doing it in and out list, and I was trying to be fake edgy.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And I go in, going, oh, going straight home after the show out, going to the after party and trying to get them pussy. And then the censor met me backstage. and he said, guys, and he had Lauren, he goes, listen, we lose, if we hear the word pussy, we lose three big advertisers. Oh, my God. And I'm like, and Lauren goes, well, I don't say pussy then. And I go, I'm not really saying it.
Starting point is 00:26:23 He goes, we know what you're saying. The guy's mad. Andrew Brewer, remember? He was very nice. But he's like, I'm in the middle. And then I go out there and Dennis Miller goes, uh, he goes, he does it. And I'm nervous. That joke's coming up.
Starting point is 00:26:36 And I guess I'm a pussy. And it gets a big laugh. And Dennis goes, and then at the commercial he goes, You're fucking cooked, dude. That got too big a laugh. You're cooked. Meaning they heard it. Dude, cooked.
Starting point is 00:26:46 That's a young term. You're cooked. Fuck yeah, Unk. That's all right. You heard me. Talking to the Marcella. I can't. Don't just look at me.
Starting point is 00:26:57 No. Marcella, you don't make me get to all my questions about you. Have you ever heard of TikTok? What's your relationship with TikTok? A guy like you. I'm not. Legally supposed to be on it, but I'm on it. At 40, they say it's kind of for younger.
Starting point is 00:27:16 You know what it says. I don't ever give the paper. I didn't memorize it. Up here it says no dad. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I saw your special.
Starting point is 00:27:29 No, don't do this. Don't do that. I won't do it. American boy. Yes. American boy, special on Netflix. Yes. I saw him prep for this special day in while he's reading.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I went. Shall we talk about the special? No, the special is a big deal. Special special. I'm trying to hype up your shitty special. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:27:49 So I go down, bless my heart, doing superstar shit around my house, whatever. This house is crazy, by the way. No, actually, you didn't even ask you. This house, as soon as you walk in, you feel a little bit of anger. Yeah. Get a little bit of anger. COVID. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:28:05 He's called COVID. He's sweating. I just. He's got long COVID. It's been three years. Oh, he's switching the cameras from camera to camera. Yeah. So even when you talk to me, Cameron Lee, look at you.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I told him, I told him to stay on me. So I get a text from either. I think it was more Sarah Sherman than you. I invited you. Oh, you did? Yes, I did. And also I went to your- But Sarah was like I'm bringing Spade.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah, so I did a set. I opened. This is what's happening to the world. You didn't open for me, Spade. You did a spot. I did a spot at the Comedy Store. Oh, my God. I will say, I will say,
Starting point is 00:28:39 I was angry when I walked in because it was fucking past and I go for this pipsqueak this twirp who gives a fuck about this sorry What would Hans say? Oh no
Starting point is 00:28:54 it's a new generation there was a wait list so long old time you had your day Oh no Standing room only I know It was now that teachers become the pupil.
Starting point is 00:29:13 So anyway, I, you actually did good and this fucking kills me. Thank you. I watched the whole thing. No, you didn't, but go on. I sat with Sarah. For the first 15. I knew it was Sarah because she was throwing up the whole time, working on a new bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Here's her notes for me. That would be funny. What if your eyes popped out of your head? Sarah. Sarah Sherman. So anyway, and she has a special thing. special out also. Yes, on HBO. That's right. Competing Network. And so anyway, you did a great job. Thank you. And I, and then Nick Goosen told me he's doing your special. Yes. I was actually shocked
Starting point is 00:29:52 you got so many swings at it. I know. We did six. I was like, I hope it's good. You got six fucking tries, dude. But it's hard to pick. And I talked to you a little bit. I think I face time you once after. I think after Sebastian, I hit you up and said, great job last And we were editing. We called you a couple times when we were editing. And you were on a private jet? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So, which I keep in, you saw in the kitchen. Yeah, I saw it in the kitchen. No, but Goosen's a buddy and I was checking on these guys and they were editing. They were working hard. And then I hit you once, I think your lovely girlfriend is there. I have a question for you about that. Uh-oh. What?
Starting point is 00:30:29 We're off the special already. How fast is that? So long. What is it on? Netflix. Right. It is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Okay, good. I have thoughts about it, but we can, let's go to you. I just want to say, and I, this is, what is the, what are your thoughts about? Oh, they're not that profound. I think some people forget in stand-up, it doesn't take much, but to connect to the audience, like you're a real person up there, not just doing bits. Right. So one moment, I don't know if you did every show if you're like, I can't even believe what just happened to me.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Because it's still, for us, the American public, you kind of just arrived. I agree. You know, even though it's been a while for you. It's been, yeah, four years. Oh. Of like things going okay. Yeah. So that really kind of like, oh, God, this really the audience is disconnected to you. And the other one is all the physicality. Most people don't do that.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I know. That's Robin Williams. That's, you know, I don't know who else, but it's just like, fun to watch. Somebody told me, and it's, I think it's a quote from somebody like, you know, maybe somebody else. But Osama Siddiqui, he's a comedian from New York. And he was like, when I first started, I met him. And I was like, he does a lot of physical stuff. And I'm like, I do a lot of physical stuff. And he goes, yeah, I think we're taking risks because. it's much scarier to bomb here. Yeah, it's so true. It's so sweaty.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Let's not go back to that sketch I did on this. That was his physical idea. Only the guy was, he walks off in the commercial with a separated shoulder. Was it worth it? Ero and Ero in. That sounds like the seat filler for Spain at that thing. I have a question of worry about Spanish people.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yes. Like, because we have so many friends. Careful. Latino people. Careful. But when sometimes this guy was snaking our toilet or something, and when he spoke in English. He's was what? Cleaning your toilet?
Starting point is 00:32:19 Well, he's a plumber. He's a plumber. There was a clog. And he owns the company and he's very successful. Extremely. Gosh. Yeah. Jose's.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Not cool, dude. Jose's plumbing. Okay, great. But when he spoke in English, she talked really, really fast. Right. Well, because we talked fast in Spanish. I think the problem with English sometimes is that it takes longer.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Let's try it, ready? Give me a sentence to say in English. To say in English? Yeah, something. Let's see, we could pick you up at 3.30 or 4.30 or we can get you after dinner at 8. All right, ready? We could pick you up at 3.30 or 430
Starting point is 00:32:53 or we could pick you up later at 8. That's in English. In Spanish. We can recoghe at 3.5, the 4.m. You didn't say that. You said, Ocho or Oach? Ah, you thought I was some fucking-assie. You're at eight?
Starting point is 00:33:08 I fucking caught you. Uno dos tres, four, Cinco, Ocho, Nuevee. Nuevi. Dias.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Boom. Welcome to Spain. This is eight years of Spanish. Yeah, boy. Thought we were rookies, dude. Let me tell you both
Starting point is 00:33:28 something right now. Let me say something that. I'll tell you both something right now. Let me tell you something right now. Yeah. Don't practice on me. No, it was good.
Starting point is 00:33:37 practice on me. Why wasn't? I'm good at it. You understand? Okay. I'm an expert at it. Let me ask you. You go practice with COVID guy or somebody here.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yeah. Let me ask you another question. Say something in Spanish. Fast, go, three, two, one. Go, come on, come on. Do you know the Spanish? Go, come on. It can be, oh la.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Okay. Okay, that's good. Como isazazazazzo? Um, piquito. Oh. He's got something. COVID. He's got some game.
Starting point is 00:34:01 COVID. What do you got? This guy's an enigma. Ola. This guy's an enigma. Ola. That's it. Nobody knows what you're thinking.
Starting point is 00:34:07 You know that? Ola COVID. You don't know if he likes your hatred. No, you don't know anything about him. And you see his shoes, usually shoes say a lot about a person. I see his shoes and I'm more confused. Yeah. Is that not interesting?
Starting point is 00:34:18 What do you think of my shoes? You need a clip you guys counting at me in my face during that. Why are you both in color, chromatic? Look at my shoes. Is that a PR issue? Okay. Why are you guys dressed alike? I was guys, your mom's Cuban.
Starting point is 00:34:29 My mom is Cuban. Okay. So one of my favorite movies is Scarface. So Al Pacino does a Cuban. accent, which I love to do, but is it accurate? It's theatrical or what? I don't know. I think it's definitely theatrical,
Starting point is 00:34:46 but I think the movie is so good and so many people love the movie that you can't really get mad at him. Oh no, I love it. It's operatic, it's musical. I can't tell what I'm watching it if like, I don't know. What do you think, Marty? Do you think the Scarface accent is good?
Starting point is 00:34:59 Like, do you think it's realistic? Oh, okay. Holy-old. Oh, man. And that's my manager. I got a time. No, I'm kidding. You got a time to watch some movie, man.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah. His mama's a Cuban. You know what's good about it is that he makes it really understandable for everyone? Yeah. You can hear. Yeah, I think if that movie was about a real Cuban, you would have had a tough time understanding that guy in the movie. Yeah. I think he made his own accent.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Amen. And man was having him with the guy in the coming to my house. Yeah, they go too fast. He'll go faster. He goes slow. But I think there's guys that talk like that. But it doesn't matter. It's so catchy what he does.
Starting point is 00:35:35 rhythms, you know, sell out to the bad guy. It's almost like Sebastian. It is a little bit like Sebastian. I think Sebastian wasn't that animated in the early days. Really? And I think what happens is sometimes, like I move around a little bit. I'm not super animated up there. No, you move around a little bit.
Starting point is 00:35:51 No, it hurts. But if I get, you know, if anything to help a joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it helps sell it, if it helps clarify it. You go for it. You go for it. When Sebastian came out, I think it was 2012 or 23rd. I don't usually watch specials.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I watch like 10 minutes. Oh, that's the theater, it's pretty good, right? It doesn't matter who it is. And then I watched all of yours. But when I saw Sebastian, I go, this is something new. This is like a new thing. And I looked it up and he had toured with Andrew Dice Clay.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And then I saw him, I think it was Craig Ferguson or one of those late night shows, early days. And he, everything was more contained and not as physical. And then you see him a few years later, the confidence, he just extenuated. Oh, oh. Like when he goes, I get an Uber,
Starting point is 00:36:41 and he goes I'm out front going, are you gag? Yeah, yeah, the names. He also does the Chipotle. He's been the Chipotle. He's got band-aid on it. Cheese, and the fajitas. He goes, he goes, you like
Starting point is 00:36:58 iPhone charger, iPhone 7, iPhone 8, iPhone 9, Android, Cress White's ship. How long am I in this cook? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chris White's trip, Harry Potter. Yeah, Harry Potter. Did he say Harry Potter? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:37:13 That's fucking. I added a tag. You had a question. Okay. You have a question? Oh. Mm-hmm. Two, this is a two-parter.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Oh, one, when people always, I think this is a common thing, and I got this for years, like certain questions ask you too much. It every, people that do a skim job that don't know you, probably Sabrina Carverner, Domingo, we already milked. But just that you know, Sabrina Carpenter. And you have a lovely girlfriend, that's what I was saying. And I think there's a quiet part of the agencies and studios that would rather you be single. They would rather, it's interesting just because if you're seen with someone, maybe you're with Kendall Jenner.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Maybe we don't know. We're not commenting. And always when people date, there's something to that. It's not bad or good. No, no, no. And so if you do that, then they go, oh, Oh, because it's almost people are bummed out. We have a girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:38:08 You were on Dax the other day. And he was like, first of all, he couldn't believe it or something. Instead of just going, yeah, let's move it on. But I think the excitement level of someone go, oh, he's a certain. And you're a young guy and you're marginally good looking. I think I just skim over that. It's okay. He can't get offended when a guy like you says that.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I have my own thesis, but go ahead. So am I good looking? Sure. Thank you. All the things are very hands Okay, here's another one. Lorne Michaels. Does the guy that cuts your hair?
Starting point is 00:38:38 Does he have the same hair? This feels like a burn, and I'm not. I think, it looks good right now, so you can't hurt me. Okay. It starts at 7 a.m. It's a little bit of a molly, but you know what? Your joke, her. Listen.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I'm saying because I'm barely held together. You're just your friends with Sarah Sherman. I do like that. Her mullet is cute. I think girls at mullets are cute. Okay. Okay. This one is...
Starting point is 00:39:05 She's FaceTimey, she was... Someone was cutting her hair. I was like, Sarah, you're keeping up with the mullet. Who's cutting your hair? And then she puts her phone like this and it's a guy with a mullet. So it's like, yeah, of course he likes it. You could look good in a mullet.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I am trying to do a little mullet. You could look cool. I'm trying to do it. I'm trying. Who would take over us now if Lauren leaves? Do you know anybody there at the show now? I don't know. Who's a big...
Starting point is 00:39:29 It's hard because Lauren has built so many years of people that pick up his calls. That's the hard part The biggest question is Who's gonna get the call picked up Right So I don't know I mean I always think Tina Fearsen
Starting point is 00:39:40 But Colin also Maybe yeah I yeah I think he's He's singularly a guy That when he calls you You pick up Well he's turned into this whole enigma
Starting point is 00:39:49 Lorne He calls you pick up Been brilliant with the suits There's been different regimes Over the years And he knows how And what to say to them And it's very interesting
Starting point is 00:39:58 You text Lorne Um not really Sarah said she fucking text on I was like, we never had his notes. We never, well, we didn't have phones, but we couldn't. Sarah's very open. We would, we couldn't even, you sent him letters. I sent him letter.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Dear Lorne, by the time you get this, I'll be long gone. I hope you feel good about yourself. I'll text him if there's like a big, if there's something happens in sports or something that's funny, I'll send it to him. Because he loves, it's like, it's like this. Mm-hmm. Right. Who's interrupting my lunch or so? I had my thought not about you, but just about relationships in general.
Starting point is 00:40:36 If someone you meet, if you're kind of being famous, you meet someone, I use the word earnest. Ernest is highly underrated. It means someone with no guile. And you meet someone who's just got this classiness about them. Like they're a good person. And I think for a lot of celebrities, that appeals, you know. I mean, just a wait. I was just casually observing.
Starting point is 00:41:02 No, I was saying probably my girlfriend is a good person. I'm kind of implying that. That is very appealing. It's a very wild, topsy, turvy, celebrity world and all these. And you meet someone with a heart of gold, Neil Young. Whoops. Or you someone's... Keep me more searching for a heart of cold.
Starting point is 00:41:24 I just don't know any of that stuff. You don't need to know it. I don't either. We're both young and we're... lost right now. Yeah. Okay. I heard you talk about this on Bobby Lee.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Beatles versus Lincoln Park, which I did think was a little silly. It's two bands that I've really, obviously the Beatles I've heard a lot more. But I listen to all Latin music. Do you really? Sausa, Merengue, Batchata. Now there's Merenggeton, which is a mixture of merengue and reggaeton. Of course. And Merenggeton is like they take this old school merengue, which is to do.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Tuktu-t-tun-a-tun-tent thing. And then they add the, Tum, Katum, Kuntum. So it's like, Tum, Katung, Kuntikantik Teng, Kuntum, Ketum, Ketum, so, and you guys should not be concerned with it because if you heard it, you might, I don't know. Well, the Grammys were, I didn't know anybody.
Starting point is 00:42:15 What happened to this? I like all music. Anything is good. Did you know everybody at the Grammys? Did you know all the, did you know all the, uh, yeah, I knew a lot of the people. I think now TikTok has made, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:27 music so accessible. Oh, sometimes you know the song and not the person. Yeah, exactly. But then you see the picture of the person, but, yeah, I listen to mostly Latin music. It's all very positive and a beat. And even when it's sad, the beat is positive. I talked about that in the special. So I do like, that's my kind of stuff really often.
Starting point is 00:42:44 And then occasionally, like this Olivia Dean girl, I've got her in my phone. She's, you know, her music is also. What is she just, what kind of music is? She's like, it's like classy pop, I would say. I don't think that's a genre. She looks like movie stars. Yeah, she does. She has a great energy, and she's, she has also elegant on stage,
Starting point is 00:43:06 and she wears these flowy dresses. It's like old school kind of. It's old school vibes. Yeah, yeah. So that stuff's good. That stuff's good. It's funny at those Grammys when you see people, I'm over here, buddy. It's funny when, um, I'm, this is.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I was just trying to think all this time in my head of like how I've been exposed to Latin music. Yeah, what kind of stuff? The first one, the first one, big, big time. was a band called Santana. Of course. Yeah. Of course. And what's...
Starting point is 00:43:33 My dad put me on to Sancta. Yeah, so you're doing all this rhythm and stuff. And I was an amateur drummer. And when you hear that, with bongos and all of it going together, it's like, it is very infectious. It's beautiful. It was the first and only band of Bill Graham, who was the Lauren Michaels of music back now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:50 He knew the first time he saw them. They would be huge. Yeah. Carlos Santana. It's also a big moment right now for Latin music, you know? Yeah. It's a big moment. Why because bad bunny?
Starting point is 00:44:00 No, because Matt Bunny, Carole G. Yeah. You know. Oh, were you with Carol G last night? Carol D. We presented together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I thought that was Nikki Glaze.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Oh, no, you were with Carol G. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Nikki, okay, yeah. Because I saw you last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nicky Glazer went out with Tiano. But there's a lot right now. There's a lot of like big Latin artists that are killing it.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Yeah, last night. Killing it. Young Miko is touring with Billy Elish. Rico Suavi? Excuse you? You know who Rico Suave is? Yes, of course. You know Ricky Martin is?
Starting point is 00:44:32 He's my father. Rico. I've seen Ricky Martin. That was a great video. I don't remember it much more about that guy. Yeah, I'm friends with Ricky Martin. How about that? You are?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Oh, wow. Where'd you guys meet? I'll play a local. Sorry? Nothing. I met him at a dinner party. So rude. So rude.
Starting point is 00:44:50 No, I'm doing that. We're friends, to be fair, for the listeners. Me and you. Me and these guys are friends. Yeah, yeah. I like them and I respect them. No, they know. We're trying to be more friends with you than Bobby Lee.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Oh, my God, I love Bobby Lee. I know, he's so funny. Yeah, he was in that seat. I can't get mad at Bobby Lee. He came here? Yeah. What was that like? Well, I put his...
Starting point is 00:45:09 Oh, yeah, like that. He had just shaved his entire genitals at a nightclub. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's so good because he laughs, even if he doesn't really hear what you're saying. He's a good laugh. And he was standing up a lot. Yeah, he's a pistol. Now, what's next from ourselves?
Starting point is 00:45:24 So you came out here right after S&O to the Grammys, Because we were like, why is he out here right away? He just did his show. We left right after the show. We didn't go to the party. We went straight to grab our bags and go to the airport. And then... How did you get here?
Starting point is 00:45:38 How'd you get to LA? So you took the red eye? I flew in a flight from American Airlines. No, you did. I did. From SNL in the middle of night? Yeah. No, we left at 7 a.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Oh, you got up? Oh, the day of the Grammys? Yeah. Oh, no wonder you're fucking burned out. Yeah, flew in and right away. Oh, yeah. I'm here for two days. And then I go to the University of Florida.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I'm doing a show there. Are you doing shows I saw? Are you doing the Gator Bowl? And then I'm doing something with the Gators. You're doing the Wilbur? Is it the Gator Bowl? Because I did that once. You go to a stadium.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Oh, I don't know if we're doing the stadium. It's not the Gator Bowl. He's doing a couple nights of Wilbur in Boston. Are you doing those? Because you can do them through S&L, you can jump back and forth? Because it's Boston so close. Yeah, so I'm doing eight Wilbers. Shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Whoa. That's big. Six nights. Six is nothing. And it's about a. We're not. It was eight? It was eight.
Starting point is 00:46:29 It's down to four? It's down. It's eight shows. The trend is going down. I understand. We're doing eight shows there and then we're doing a show at a place called the Chevalia. Oh, I've been the Chavalet or something. The Chivalier or something.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Is it cool? I play that's great. There's apparently like a Dominican population close by. We're going to try. Yeah, they were not a word. Sam J told me a place is called Lynn. Lynn. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:46:51 Your special just dropped. You got another hour? I have, yeah, I have some new stuff. You do? Yeah. Really? about this. It's not ready. No. It's not like tight, tight.
Starting point is 00:47:01 No, but I have enough material to go out. But I also worked as soon as we finished the hour, I would start sat down with Madi and we started looking at all the stuff that we didn't put in the hour. And then you make it a little bit longer. And then you have some other bits. I'm from the school of it doesn't have to be 100% new. Because it takes a while to buff out the edges. And some stuff you put as little undercooked and then you go, shit, now that bit works
Starting point is 00:47:23 better and it's longer. And I did it. I did it probably too early because now it's this long. So if you do it, that seems new. Some people don't watch the last 20 minutes of your act. It's like, it's so funny that these comedy are fishing on is like, it's got to be all new. And you go, but I've seen people's new hours sometimes when I go, it's all right.
Starting point is 00:47:41 It wasn't ready. Like they just go special. Like you're doing other stuff, but some people do tour special. I think I'll probably figure it out after like, oops. Oops. Oops. Eight Wilbers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:55 The Wilbers are growing. It's a good one. No, that's great. There's no seats available. I know. Oops. He broke Sebastian Manuskukur and Pilbus. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:48:08 John Mullaney did 23. No, he didn't. 23, 23, something like that. My buddies were them. And then he leaped to Madison Square Garden. Must have, yeah. I mean. That's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Now, I see you jumping up like that. Okay. I think because of this special and everything else, what are they thrown at, you know, what size of rooms? Oh. I mean, where you're not trying to work out the new stuff in like clubs. So I'm not even really trying to be like it.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Clubs is fun. It's fun and you can work out and you can learn and, you know, stretch. Right. But you're in a big room. If you don't have it kind of a little bit figured out, that can get scary. Oh, they're paying a lot. And they're scary. And they're scary.
Starting point is 00:48:47 And they're scary. So many. Oh, you do that. I don't know. Sometimes they have screens. I've never done it like an arena or anything like that. Do you show them a little bit? Do you do a little bit of your S&L characters?
Starting point is 00:48:58 Just a little bit. No. I've seen a little bit of your act. Do you do a great job of doing that? And you kill with that. I just gave up. They wanted so bad. Like I'm doing regular stand-up and then I do guards for a second. That Gaffigan thing.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Gaffigand then that we did, the benefit. Oh, that. Oh, I guess so. I was so crazy. Yeah, whatever. What was it for? It's just so funny because all of us are coming straight from work and we're all like, what am I going to do?
Starting point is 00:49:19 What am I going to do? And we're just like, dingin. And then we just look at Dana. And Dana's got this paper. It's just like banger. after. He's like, see on the other side. Yeah, literally.
Starting point is 00:49:29 And he's very humble. He's like, I'm just going to try. I have to follow this guy. In the margins of the paper, it says, banger, banger, banger, double banger. Double banger. Follow that. Follow that loser. Sorry, James Olston Johnson.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I like, I like, oh, that's what happened is that you came out. You were doing Biden and then he was doing Trump and it was. Yeah, that was fun. Oh, my God. Yeah. Here's a text. I went to see this prick. Who?
Starting point is 00:49:59 You, and then here's what I said after I left. Oh yeah, go ahead. After I left the show. Hey, don't blame yourself. That second show crowd is super tough. They were just tired. You're the worst guy ever. That's me after he kills.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Don't blame yourself. Yeah, fuck it. Don't freak out over there. This is good. That's friendship, by the way. I know, that is good. To me, that's what Dana does to me all the time. Negativity is friendship.
Starting point is 00:50:24 It's funny. Yes. And being nice. to people, that's people you don't know. Yeah. That's how you were taught at home. Yeah. You can tell on these awards shows.
Starting point is 00:50:31 The mom is very mean to you, but nice to everyone else. If you go to Oscars or Emmys or those things like last night at the Grammys and you're seeing, the fun is seeing people you never seen in real life. Right. And then if they know you, it's fun, if they know something you do, the general one is I like your work. Yes. And that's general.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Then you're funny. Now they know you're a comedian. Yeah. And then if they like something you do, that helps then it's a little more specific. But it is fun. All those things are a blast. That's a good thing. Plus, you're just presenting, so you don't really have to worry about it.
Starting point is 00:50:58 No, yeah, I was excited to present. I was nervous. I wrote that. I wrote it. But you said something in Spanish, right? Yeah, we came out, we said everyone asked notches. That means good noches. No.
Starting point is 00:51:11 It's good nuggets. Good night? Good nuggets. I check you out. Boating for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. What? Sounds like Ojo time. Play Ojo.
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Starting point is 00:52:28 starting to get famous in the neighborhood and with your sisters. And, you know, it was very sweet at the end the way the camera stayed on you and you gave her mom a big hug. Oh, yes. It did affect me because of the way. Was that an actress?
Starting point is 00:52:42 Who played your mom? I actually played his mom. It's dark. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I didn't, I just church lady. He said to do it. No, she was. It's very sweet.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah, but she was standing there, like, I think she kind of wanted to be there. either way for the last one. Oh, no, so they told her, you know, it would be a great shot probably if you do that. But, um. Do I have to watch the whole thing then? No, dude, she's-
Starting point is 00:53:09 They bring her to the end. The thing is, a woman like that's been through so much, these jokes, they're not gonna affect her, you know? And I talk about it now in this new hour a little bit, about like, it's hard to offend, like, real immigrant Latinos, like to get offended over words. It's hard because they just, they've seen, they've been through so much stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:27 My mom went through so much stuff. through so much that like the words kind of don't affect her so much she's more like how do i treat her you know do i come home for christmas yeah those kind of things are more important do i call do i am i active do i to you know call my sister take care my sister all that stuff is that kind of thing am i a good man you know what i mean am i a good person those things showing your parents with you know the the family dynamic is more important than like what people will say well do you feel you You feel sometimes a little dirty or is your act not like that? Are you scared to me?
Starting point is 00:53:57 It's not really dirty. Dirty? No, no. Because mine, I've had a few things because some of my actors are. Well, you are filthy. You're a filthy guy. And she goes, but the funny thing is. It's not you.
Starting point is 00:54:05 It's not you talking. Your mullet has ideas. You got to. And they talk to you. You better be hate. When you go home, my mom goes, Davey, I promise the neighborhood boys you'd ride bikes with them. I go, right by, aren't they 11?
Starting point is 00:54:18 She goes, oh, don't get like this. I go, like what? And then she goes, That's adorable. She goes, we go to Costco and she buys deviled eggs. Yeah. And there are little plastic, you know, divots. And then there's like a hundred of them.
Starting point is 00:54:31 And she puts them down and it's got the tag on top. She walks down, okay, what else? I go, Mom, are you going to take, are you going to pop this open? And she goes, oh, don't get all Hollywood on me. I go, no, I'm just saying if you take them out of the divvets on a plate, maybe they won't know you got them for Costco and they won't barf their fucking guts out. And she goes, okay, showbiz. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's all, so you have to be very careful.
Starting point is 00:54:52 My mom is like that with me too. My mom also is very concerned about, like, me spending my money. She's very concerned about that stuff. Like, I think on Dax, it slipped out that, like, I rented a Porsche because I wanted to drive a Porsche. I never like. And what did she say? And then it came out. He was like, you came here to a Porsche.
Starting point is 00:55:09 And I was like, oh, yeah, I rented. I rented it. I wanted to drive a Porsche. I don't know. And it's cheaper if you rent it. And so it came out. And then my mom called me after the podcast came out. And she was like, and when were you going to tell me you rented a Porsche?
Starting point is 00:55:26 Huh? There's a lot of cars with four wheels, Marcelo. It doesn't have to be that. Flashy. Yeah, she's, but I love that, dude, because it's so scary, you know, all the, and you hear about it with athletes and stuff that they make money, and then they end up losing it all. So I'm very glad that I have her to be there.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yes, I have an algorithm. How much money do you have, Dana? Yeah. I mean if counting all the houses? No, no. Just exactly. We can cut if we want. He can count his house on one hand.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Five, ten, fifteen. Here's what you need. Here's what you need to tell your older cell. So you want to not need money at all by the time you're, let's just say 50. Right. So for that to be true, you have to have such a wall of money that at three to five percent, It will spit you out so much money that you don't have to do a commercial you don't want to do. You just do show business, but only do anything you want to do.
Starting point is 00:56:31 So that's the thing is until the relatives get hungry and the whole neighborhood, you know, just make sure you get that wall of passive income. I know it's not funny. No, it's true. That's my advice. No, that's good advice. Because if you buy something like it's not too frivolous, like a house or something like that. We got a house.
Starting point is 00:56:49 It saves you from spending. that money. In my head, that's, I think, something or stocks where you go, I won't touch that. I can't screw around with this money because obviously it burns a hole in your pocket. You want to buy stuff and it's fun and you want to treat yourself like you're working so hard. Does it speak to you? Because I asked my wife this sometimes. Did I ever talk about being famous or rich ever? Because we were together at 79. And I didn't. I never thought about it. I knew it was possible. But I kept thinking, could I headline the club? You don't strike me as someone's like, now I'm rich. No, early on, no, no, no. I do think it's funny.
Starting point is 00:57:21 It is funny to say you're rich. Like with like like I think it was um I was with a writer one night we went to a diner after SNL and the check was like you know $80 or something and I'm like I'll pay and he grabs it and he goes I'm rich and he paid for it and I like those little stupid bits like that but no I also never like I remember thinking that it would take me 15 years to make it in comedy when I first started. So I had this such a patience for it. Oh, that's a year, you're in head.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Yeah, that I was like, I'll just work my ass off. That's a semi-realistic. Yeah, yeah. Most people say a year. Yeah, no. I'm not doing it a year. I'm going to tell people it's not happening any year. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Give it if it's one inch better. In a year. But you got in three or four from when you first started? No, no. To SNL. Yeah, SNL was seven years. Six or seven. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Oh, you got that in six. Oh, that's year. I started at 18. Oh, like, almost full time since I was 18. Like, because I was in college, but I was doing three or four shows a week in college. And I was traveling to New York to sell tickets on the street. I was barking. And I was, I did like a tonight show, a horrible, I don't even want to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:58:33 But I did it at my college. I did like a stupid little show. We've all done it. We've all done it. We've all done. We're bombing so bad. It does help, though. It's practice.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah. I put in the work. Have you done a stand-up set on like Fallon or anything? Have you ever done a stand-up set on those? Did you look up anything about me before we came? I know. He doesn't do stand-up. He comes out as the first guest.
Starting point is 00:58:57 No, I'm saying, come on. I'm not kidding around here. No, of course, yes, I've done it. So you did stand-up. Well, the first time I did it was, they asked me to do chair, or what is it called? Couch. Couch.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah. And then, but I had never done stand-up on Val-L and I was supposed to. Before I got SNL, I thought my big break was that I was going to do stand-up on Fallon. Yeah. So they had seen me at JFL and they were like, we'll give you a spot on Fallon.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I was like, oh my God, this is going to be amazing. And then I got SNL and then that changes things because you have to get on the show. You don't even turn it down, but they go, you have to do the show. Then SNL decides when you do Fallon because they, yeah, that thing. And they go do Seth this day. Exactly. Chloe's on a lot. Jimmy, you'll do Jimmy, you're two.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Exactly. Stuff like that. So when I finally got to do the interview, he was like, do you want to do a little bit of stand-up? So I did my first time of Fallon's stand-up, I did two minutes. out on the stage No, I did the interview and then he goes Do you want to go to stand-up?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Oh, okay. We had planned it out that way. And I got up and I did it and I got up and I did it. And I almost liked it because everybody's attention span is so short now that like it was actually just the right amount of stand-up
Starting point is 00:59:59 and it was like, you know. And they already won them over a bit. So how was that set, that two-minute set? Like did you start out kind of slowly but 45 seconds in? You landed something and... No, yeah, I went, I went hard.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I practiced the crop. I would imagine. It's all I'm saying. Because you're already working on the couch. You've got to just fucking. You gotta just start. You go right away. I'm Latino.
Starting point is 01:00:18 And then you know. I'm Latino. Just in case. For the rest of these jokes, all you got to know is, I'm Latino. I put the joke in the machine and then I press Latino. I don't want the people to be like, what's going to? You got to do this update. It's really quiet and hold.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I get a bit of a restaurant. It's getting quieter. That's why he doesn't... And they give me the bread. His consonants get... Why is it that when we eat the bread? We've got to tear it apart. I'm tearing the bread apart.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I'm ripping the bread up on the table. There's a cacophony, a crumbus on the table. And then the guy comes with a little... He's got a shaver. He comes in with one of his shay takes the stuff. not as quality first of all you gotta do that in your stand-up
Starting point is 01:01:19 even if it's like you do your regular stand-up and you come out for your encore and it's sort of you're talking about Domingo and this and that so fun to do it I have to stop I feel like it's like annoying like I can't imagine if I was Sebastian and then there's a kid
Starting point is 01:01:33 that keeps going into my voice Oh no I can't get enough it Here's what you do maybe but I don't If you go out on an update If you go out on update of Sebastian, you literally just say factual things. I'm coming on the show sitting in the chair. It's also funny if he's like,
Starting point is 01:01:52 Most cargo trucks have 18 wheels. Yeah, exactly. Well, if you walk. It just stays quiet. What if you walk by? That's it. Just information. If you walk by update and they go, Sebastian, what are you doing here?
Starting point is 01:02:05 You go, you were just at a restaurant and then you got lost. And they go, oh, what happened to the restaurant? You sit down. And then you go, I'm sitting there and we sit down, but I know, I don't sit down. This is not the table we're going to sit. Because my wife's going to complain. I think, my mom will.
Starting point is 01:02:21 We're going to move so I wait. Remember he does that joke where he goes to sit down? So I'm up, I'm up late at night. I get tired. And I lay down in the bed with the pillow, with the lights out. There's a little bit of walking in there too. Yeah. And I'm sleeping.
Starting point is 01:02:37 No. Yeah. Just that he's making. benign. I also just love that stuff, those jokes. Like, those are the jokes that I love the most, are the jokes that are about something that's just so... Miniscule.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That stuff makes me, I love that stuff. Yeah, like your toenails. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they got band-aid shun that toes. I'm supposed to go swimming. You know these people. I'm just quoting him.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I wanted to do something about how, when a guy goes to the airport in a motorcycle. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna put, the helmet and the overhead command. I can knock over everything. Knock everything. No, but I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I feel like I have to say sorry to Sebastian because I can't stop doing it. Oh, no, Sebastian, it's a love letter. He was on our podcast. I said, musicality and physicality. Which is a lot of what you do too. And that's very potent when you're physically funny and then verbally funny.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Just look familiar? A little bit of a symposium. I have four pages on you. Can I see something and see maybe there's a question I would like to answer? Yeah, this is just your. Okay, and who did this? We got it from the top here.
Starting point is 01:03:45 No, it's another guy with COVID back east that he sends it in. I'm not showing you my real quick. I had a quick question. Yeah, please. When was comedy your job? When did you stop doing any other job and comedy was your job? How much did you make at that point? It wasn't until SNL.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Before then, you were still, you were coaching a team or something? I saw I was coaching a team, but I was doing that for free at my high school. Okay. But no, so I worked for this Instagram account. That was my first real, that's what I felt like I had like a non-real job. Miami-Dade. Yeah, only in Dade, which is an account that does all this news about Miami. And I got like truly at that time, it felt like the honor of being like a modern day, like, news anchor.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Because it's only on Instagram and TikTok. And I'm sitting in my house with a camera. And I'm editing it myself. And it's just me being like, this week in Miami. This happened. This happened. That job definitely was like the first time. Because I moved out of my mom's house.
Starting point is 01:04:51 And so that job paid me enough to like move out. So I was working that job and a different job. And then I told my boss, hey man, I really want to do this with you guys. I don't want to have to work my nine to five and this. Is there a way you can pay me enough to get me out of? And he did. And I got out of it. and I could pay my rent doing videos.
Starting point is 01:05:12 At the same time, I was writing for a podcaster. And at the same time, I was coaching a guy to do stand-up. I was like, coming to his house for like a couple hundred bucks and like writing jokes for him at his house. Because he was like a businessman that just sold his business, and he wanted to do stand-up. And so I was like writing jokes for him for $200 a week or something. I was like, this is amazing.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Every time I sit with him for a couple hours, I get a couple hundred bucks. And so that's how I was covered. And then at the time also I was touring with Mark Vieira and the Gilbert Godfried I got to tour with. Oh, really? And, um, huh? Was Tim Dylan?
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah, and Tim Dylan. Gilbert's the funniest, dude. He was. My gosh. Gilbert was the best. And Gilbert, um, he just loved, uh, he loves candy. And, um, he needed, and his impressions. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:05:57 He was just so weirdly funny. Yeah. He's got a weird delivery. One night he had a, he wanted muffins. And I'm like, I felt like, I'm going to do whatever he needs. So I'm like getting this guy, We need the muffins for Gilbert. Gilbert needs the muffins.
Starting point is 01:06:12 And I can't tell Gilbert is just like the sweetest thing on earth. But the next day in the morning, my job is to go to his door, knock, get him out. Yeah. Take him to the car, go to the airport, fly home. So I go, knock on the door. I open the door. He opens the door for me. He's like, I'm just finishing up backing.
Starting point is 01:06:30 And I look and he's putting the muffins in his suitcase. And I'm like, you are just the best of all time. And yeah, he was dry. I drove with him for a few hours, also a few times. And just his jokes in the car. Gilbert, yeah, he's so crazy. I stayed with him for a week one time, live with him. And it was same kind of crazy.
Starting point is 01:06:51 He was eating like frosted flakes in the morning and like those old school cereals. And it's always odd when you're on a comedian, you're staying doing gigs and you're in the same house or condo. The comedians come. Yeah, comedy condo. Oh, yeah. I've been in a lot of those beds. Yeah, it's just. I mean, it's not bad.
Starting point is 01:07:09 It's sexy. Bad is like a nine to seven nightmare job. Dishwasher holiday. Nine to five to nine to seven. Even like a sales job that I was working, that's a headset in your house, that's not fun. Like if you want to- This is Marcello.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Telemarketing. Yeah, I was doing that. I was going, I know this is Marcello and I'm calling on behalf of your health center. I would name the health center. And I'm just calling to let you know that we can get your medicines delivered it to your house. no additional cost to your insurance.
Starting point is 01:07:38 You're pretty good. And they would be like, you're a thief. You're an animal and you're a thief. And then the daughter would come in and be like, who is this? And I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm just calling on behalf of the health center. I'd like to get your parents, you know, Madison's delivered at no additional cost to your insurance.
Starting point is 01:07:57 It's like, you animal! How dare you try to take advantage of my mother? Do you do this in your stand-up? No, no. Make a note. I think it's a chiller sometimes. No, I think you can extenuate that and make it a little nice little... They think I'm taking advantage of it.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Well, because it's real time to hear a few jokes. You go, well, I got you in the phone. Can you hear my new bit? What is the episode that you guys have liked the most of the show? Outside of this one, of course. This one might blow up. Who is it? We mean our biggest banger from this?
Starting point is 01:08:30 Well, in the early days, we just tapped all our really close friends that are superstars. Tina Faye. Adam Sandler, Tom Haymorton, Maya Rudolph. I don't know. They're the best. Seeing them pop by the show is always crazy. Yeah, it's really fun to do it.
Starting point is 01:08:46 We're part of the, you know, a heritage. All right, Marcel. That guy's around 100% part of it. We feel like we all need to eat. So let's... We're going to wrap it up. Do you want me to take you to eat for real? Do you get a rest now or you go to another thing?
Starting point is 01:08:57 We're going to chill a little bit today and then tomorrow we go to Miami. Yeah, tomorrow. Wednesday we go to Miami and then I go to Gainesville. Then I go to Boston. And then I'm back in next. New York. All that before the next show? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Oh, wow. Watch the Super Bowl. I don't get back to my house until Sunday. Oh, Super Bowl is this Sunday, right? Yeah. All right. Go Pat or sea chickens. Say thanks for coming on, Dana.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Dude, thank you guys for having me. Can I say something nice? Yes. I think to both of you, I think I came, being on the show is always like every time you go there, you feel like it's the first egg a little bit. And I bet when you came back, you also felt like, whoa. It was weird. It was weird.
Starting point is 01:09:33 But you guys have been so kind to me. and I appreciate it. And I am always quite scared. I think it's a fair word to use about this whole, the whole thing I'm doing, it all feels crazy and it's happening. Even when it's happening slow, it's happening fast.
Starting point is 01:09:50 And I appreciate you guys being kind and sweet and doing bits with me and, you know, because I can be a lot and you guys have accepted me. And I appreciate it. Thank you for saying that. Yes. And also I think that you guys are aging beautifully. That's not. That's what I was waiting for.
Starting point is 01:10:07 So are you. I remember at one point I told you. I just said in the hallway ago, because I watched how you operated. I said, there's nothing I can teach you. There's nothing I can tell you, you know. But I will ask you that. That's always the best advice you get is somebody going like, just keep doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:25 It's like all the best people told you. And I think you're going to be even have more fun this year. I think four under your belt in the fifth year, I think where you get, there's levels of relaxation and confidence. the audience discovering you and vice versa. And then it gets even exponentially more fun. That was my experience in your five. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Well, I appreciate you both. And you both are wearing very sensible footwear. Look at this fucking shoes. They're not bad. These guys, man. We never had anybody do SNL. Do the fucking Grammys coming out. Takes a bubble bath before the podcast.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Yeah, you walk in and wash your face. Shuds all over the place. Thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. You're very cute. Thank you. I'll see you at luncheon. All right, let's go.
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