Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Martin Short Got Eddie Vedder to Quit Smoking???

Episode Date: February 19, 2026

Pearl Jam frontman Eddie Vedder joins the guys to reflect on the early Seattle grunge scene, his first Saturday Night Live appearance in 1991 with David Spade, and how he pulled off the unheard-of feat of performing three songs in one night. He draws surprising parallels between music and stand-up comedy before diving into his new Netflix documentary on epidermolysis bullosa, Matter of Time. The conversation wraps with stories about his “cameo” in Hugh Jackman’s Song Sung Blue and how Martin Short once convinced him to quit smoking. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I can see that. But the one at 10, I was pretty hammered. That was a surprise. Well, they sent me the script. Dana, we were going to, we were going to. Yeah, for a moment. I was excited for SNO. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I couldn't believe you were even possibly going to do that with me. I was going to. And the next thing you know, they had me dressed up as a pirate. Oh, that's right. I didn't really agree to that. Edward Vedder. You know him as Eddie Vedder. name is Ed.

Very good friend. Singer-songwriter was one of the original Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam. Everybody knows Pearl Jam. One of the iconic bands out of Seattle in the 90s. So we got to talk to Eddie Vedder,

which is really interesting. He's got a documentary out about EB, which is a skin condition, which is quite a rough ride. And he has spent 15 years, with his wife battling this disease with benefits that you and I have done

to raise money for research and they're making progress. Doctors, scientists, got everyone on board, everyone on deck. On a lighter note, when I was on S&L, I remember that I did a joke where I go, Stone Temple Pilots, have a new album. I like these guys the first time I saw them when they were called Pearl Jam. It was one of those.

Oh, really? So as if it was a total rip-off? Yeah, and then, because he's like, And I feel around the way to go. Or here's it raining in your bedroom and I see. So then Stone Temple came on about four months later. And then Marcy Klein comes up. She goes, David Stone Temple wants you to come down to rehearsal.

And I go, oh. And she goes, actually, wait, don't go. The guy wants to kick the shit out of you. And I go, wow. Oh, because, okay, that hits too close from home. A joke saying you're kind of like this band. That's, oh, that's bands don't want to hear that, although Eddie Vedder has, he's got the voice. He's got a voice that's instantly with its phrasing and his tenor is instantly recognizable.

Yes, I take him through the top rock voices of all time. And I told him, I said, I can't promise you're on it. It's whatever my list is, my list. That was a tense moment in the interview. And, but Scott Weiland actually just to say as a caveat, that did happen. I did run in him years later because I do like Stone Temple Pilots. Most people made fun of them. They're great.

And so he was, changed his tune, was very cool. Very cool. You know, it's hard to explain that in that particular joke, the triple name, there's an official, you know, like a pearl gem, Stone Temple Pilots. There was probably a reason that you picked that band because you could have picked Creed or, you know, whatever. You would have picked Helen Reddy. Would eyes wide open? They're great. But anyway, back to Eddie Vedder.

Oh, right. Eddie Vedder is our guest. A lot of fun. We crack up. Thoughtful and interesting interview, and we do laugh a lot too. And for those deep dive fly on the wall, frequent flyers, we do Gervitz because he knows Gervitz. So look for that. He's Mark Gervitz's a very good friend, and he's our manager.

And so we always do this. Well, David really started it. Make fun of my courage. It doesn't really sound like him, but it's funny. It's a frequency. It's an exaggeration. It's funnier the way we do it than the real life. Yeah, yeah.

Well, that's I love impressions that go to an abstraction. All right. Here's our boy. Add to do it. Thanks for coming on. We want to talk about. Hi, Eddie. Can you hear us?

Hey, David. I can hear you great. Good. You know, Eddie, I have a cool hat like that, too. We've traded hats before. Are you sure? Yeah. There it is.

You still got it. Wow. It's a little sweaty. Because as you can see, because I'm a bit of a rocker and sometimes I sweat when I'm working. We're kind of rockers, too, in a way. I mean, not in the way you are, but, you know. Oh, I would say absolutely you are.

No, no. no we're never were i guess that's the pinnacle in a way as a little kid of just in a band i mean i was in a band with my brother you know i had a hearty boy's book as a snare and a kick drum was a basket and you know a one-string guitar we all start out that way and then at some point we go um maybe not my when the money's not flown when the money's no i got out of that in high school but What do you want to talk about? Do you like to talk about your Netflix special first? You can run this show any way you want.

And then we'll... Well, you know what? I mean, as heartbreaking as the EB subject can be, though also hopeful, another heartbreaking thing that has been on my mind was the loss of Catherine O'Hara, and I just wanted to, look, I'm getting chills already. You know, really only having met her five different times over the years, you know,

and compared to the way you know her, you know, even I was just absolutely gutted. And I just, I wished all the people that had never had the chance to be in. her presence and to have a laugh. And she was everything and more that you'd expect or dream of her being. She was just such an incredible energy. And that loss is so profound. And that's why that's been on my mind. For sure.

Yeah, over here too with me and Dana. Yeah, I spent more time with her than I did. But man, you can't find any. anyone that doesn't love Catherine Herr out there. Yeah, and just an effortless, brilliant performer, always making the choice you don't expect, making her peers laugh and the whole world laugh. And her presence, just no apparent ego or whatever you call that.

I mean, she knew who she was, but it's just, I don't know if it's Canadian or what, there's John Candy and others. They're just sort of like extra extra. and so Marty short as well. Marty short, yeah, another. Yeah, I guess it's okay to say, Memorial at the Catholic Church this past weekend. And it was really, really emotional.

And Marty gave the eulogy, and he was special. Yeah, funny. And, yeah, they always got to make some jokes. because it's so heavy it's so hard because she would want it that way i mean they you know comedians kind of you know want the the music to carry on really of course we're all sad but we have all this stuff of her brilliance to share for a long time forever for you i heard her sister was uh in attendance obviously but um mary margaret yeah who's put out some great music that um affected me deeply.

Oh, really? Yeah, she had a great album, probably even in the late 80s. I think Michael Stipe helped with it. It was called Miss America. Yeah, there's a, if you watch David Sandborn used to have a show. Was it? David Sanborn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that show.

Late show, and he'd get all these interesting musicians together. And she, I think the song's called When You Know, But if you look up her on that show, it's such a cool performance. And you can see the sisterhood there. It's kind of interesting. We have this in our world, too, because I was looking up some of the bands of the 90s in Seattle and all that. And I was just going to say, and then it had a list of like 50 other what they were calling grunge, which I want to ask you about the names of rock over the years, punk.

and grunch and he's a hard rock, alternative rock, you know. So you must have known and know so many bands that didn't break through, quote, unquote, and maybe that wasn't even their goal. I mean, the goal for me was always that this would be my job, and I'll see how it goes. But that was the dream. What about you? Well, oh, and before I forget, night music was the name of the David. David Sandborg, Night Music, wherever you get your David Sandborg.

Night music shows. Well, you know, I kind of, my main, after I graduated from things like Jackson 5 and Motown when I was a kid. And then I had kind of some older brothers because I was in a group home thing that my parents helped run. So then I was turned on to a lot of Sly Family Stone and James Brown and kind of more adult. Motown music and Stacks and all that. And then there was kind of Beatles, but then it became the Who and the kinks and to the jam. And so the, but the 60s British stuff and stones, et cetera,

you know, that seemed like the most exciting time to be alive. you know, when I was 15, listening to enveloped and engrossed and all that British invasion stuff. It seemed like Tuesday nights at the marquee for the Who and, you know, all those bands getting together, or Hendricks showing up and blowing everybody's minds. That seemed like the coolest time to be alive and you would read about it and think if I, what it would have been like to, you know, I was born too late, you know, if you could have, and then in the wrong place, if you wanted to be part of what was kind of one of the most, if not the most extraordinary periods of music. And then kind of waking up one day, I remember

almost to the day, waking up and looking around and all of a sudden being part of a, a, a legitimate scene that was a community and was all very supportive of each other. And so of all the bands of No, you know, Soundgarden and then Alice and Chains, and then first there was Mother Lovebone, which turned into Pearl Jam, but was Green River before that. And then Green River, half of it turned into Mud Honey. Mud Honey, yeah. It's like the fastbacks and the U-Men and, you know, these groups that didn't quite...

Different levels. Yeah, well, and I, Dana, you mentioned it. You know, maybe they... That wasn't part of either their goal or their ambition. Because, to be honest, there was a real thing in Seattle where ambition was. kind of looked down upon you know i i could see that that's what the vibe was from afar like we're not trying to be cool or commercial we got something to say it's actually hurts us the bigger we get i mean you guys took off i'd seem so fast it probably was not as i don't know if anyone had a bigger first

album i mean it's like sort of like just was 91 that out because there was i looked up in 91 some album came out in one year and I think you've probably heard this but it was like nirvana pearl jam um I think it was maybe Metallica Van Halen guns and roses use your illusion I was like shocked by how many bangers in a row in an eight-month period came out and we tried to slurp them all over to SNL we didn't get everybody but one of my early shows was you got perils down Sharon Stone show yeah Sharon Stone show you Sharon Stone. Phil was alive, Phil Hartman. Oh, yeah. I still have a... You had a good pocket there when you got on.

Yeah. Like what? Do you have something with Phil? You got a photo? Polaroid was Lovitz and Phil sitting at the end of the night. And I came across those recently and it was powerful to see. And, you know, not only having been like a devotee of the show since staying up late when I was 12, whatever it was, it was just such a formidable yet completely enjoyable experience to actually, you know, be in those hollowed halls. and I still remember making friends with a couple of the old dudes, you know, the crew guys or the guy who sits in silver chair with the Saturday Night Live

kind of calligraphied on the back. Yeah. You know, going back and seeing those people over the years was always real exciting, you know, or getting to meet Don Pardo or, you know, all that stuff is... Oh, Joe. You came on twice and I saw in my deep research, even though I know you a little bit,

but I think the second time you came on, you got three songs. That is so rare. Is that true? Because I think you had maybe better, or daughter. You had three. And the first time it was alive and something else. And I thought, holy shit, look at this spoiled, dude. You had three they roll in with.

I forgot about that, yeah. Yeah, it's a big deal. It was to us. We were like, shit, man. I don't think they told us until after the first rehearsal show, right? So you do a first show at six or something? Yeah, we're dressed rehearsal, yeah. In between, they said, do you want to do one more?

You got anything else? What that means is one or two of the skits or whatever. Yeah, Gap Girls got cut for you. Thank you. So I don't think it was based on what we were offering. I think it was the lack of good sketches. Yeah, everything bombed. Yeah, we bombed.

Norm was doing the news at that point? Was it Norm? Was Norm doing the news? It's a good question because it was 91 and 93. It was probably. It was Kevin Neeland and then to Norm? Oh, might have been Kevin. Yeah.

Yeah. Might have been the end. of Dennis on the first one because 91 that was probably my first year yeah and daddy and I are very close to the same age won't say any numbers out there but yeah you had a you had a birthday recently and i was like okay i'm i'm a half step up how is that that that was fun i'm a half step up so when i heard the 90s sound come in and from seattle let's say it did feel like something new its own little mini renaissance it was different you know there were hair bands in the 80s and and stuff. There was, I don't know, it was a different sound, which I appreciated a lot.

I just love rock. I love whatever you guys were doing. I mean, but I was- Poison out of business. Poison. Well, I really want to pick on those bands, but you know, it was sort of a shift. It was a shift. It was very cool. There's only two things I wanted to ask you very quickly, just about, because I heard about the Who and Neil Young, you maybe like them but i thought of roger daltry and you and i i did connect the dots between there's some symmetry there with a big voice and also can go really soft so who's next the the a side it's maybe as good as anything that's ever been recorded in my mind and then nil young was maybe the father of grunge with russ never sleeps um or hey hey my my electric con

Gung, you know. So I heard you love those two things, so I just wanted to co-sign that. Well, yeah, I think Neil has been given the moniker of Godfather of Grunge, not just because of the flannel, but because of the sound. Yeah. And his sound up close, you know, one of the very fortunate things, having worked with him and playing live, is the sound of his am. up close. It's like standing next to an erupting volcano or the biggest wave at

Wyoming Bay crashing under the shore. And then he seems to kind of lose himself in this way where he kind of starts shape-shifting and kind of turns into like a shaman and then he seems like he's an old Indian and then and then he turns into like a young kid and and you're like in the cage with the lion um it's it's yeah uh it will vibrate your souls uh yourselves it's unique because he he looks like he's almost struggling or sort of spastic in a way when he gets into that trance and then when i listened to his solo on quartets the killer which i got to hang out them a few times and told him what it meant to me how that song first of all is like and then his solo in that and no one plays like Neil there's

others equally brilliant but he has his own lane it's this magic you know magic yeah he he channels you know he really channels and and in order to do that you have to be in tune to you know the energy the you know whatever's out there um and that's a that's a skill in itself, you know, beyond, you know, the notes seem to come not from a scale. They seem to come from a divine. To stay a child or be in touch with that when your higher consciousness hadn't kicked in and you're just being playful, like a four-year-old drawing. And yet you're a human adult. And then when you get in touch with that, that part of you, boy, it's a lot of a creative explosion.

But Neil always felt like he was there somehow. It's like a child up there in a way, in the purest form. Well, in the way you just explained it, I think of some of the stuff we watch you guys do. You know, there's still that playful and improvisational. You know, that's, you could say it's from doing a lot of reps, but it's also, I think it comes from, of, you know, being, still having maintained that freedom and flexibility of, you know, because then that's what becomes, you know, so funny and so spot on or so quick.

Yeah, you can, I think like music and stand-up, as you know, it's probably similar in the way that I could do a show and in three nights, same theater. And then they're all just a hair different. And no one really noticed, but I can tell this crowd is a little like this. I was more like this. I kind of adapted to that. And it's funny how they can be a little different every night. And maybe it's not as noticeable to people, but maybe it is.

But I think that's what music is. It's still the same set. I'm still doing what I'm doing. Like you're going to do the same set list, let's say. But you can tell some nights are a little different and you're just, you're rolling with something a little harder, you're getting into something a little different that you have before. And that's kind of the fun of it. It's not just a rubber stamping. It's it can be it can go almost anywhere. And do you get nervous before you play? Yeah, I still do. Dana doesn't get as nervous,

but. Well, uh, when you're dancing for your donuts, like you're auditioning for Laura Michaels and and you're 30 years old, that's a different kind of nervousness. But now I do feel responsibility for to I as comedians we're supposed to kill quote unquote we're supposed to destroy. We're supposed to levitate the room. Slay and I think that yeah, I don't know if you have this, but if the night's a little bit off, the voice in the back of your head is is still giving yourself notes a little bit while you're saying while they're playing. You're doing pretty good. You're doing pretty good. That's not going well.

When that goes dead quiet, then you're in the zone. And nothing matters except expressing the rhythm of the words that you want to do in that moment or if it's nonverbal, which is even better. And you want to get to that playful state and you don't always get to it. That's why when it happens, have you had a moment like that in the studio or a live recording where you just went to another place? And then you're listening yourself back and you go, man, they call it being in the zone. You know, it's fun. Yeah. There was a vocal on the last, not the last record.

It was a solo record called Earthling. But, yes, 2022. Andrew Wyatt, Ringo, Elton John, and Stevie Wonder. Andrew, yeah. Andrew Wyatt, he, of course, every album. Chad Smith. Oh, Chad. Jesus.

But it was funny. I found out later there was one of the vocals. It was put together of two vocals. and one was at about five in the afternoon or evening. And then the other one was at 10 once we got it put together. You can't tell the difference. But the one at 10, I was pretty hammered. Well, yeah, we get that.

And it was kind of amazing. And I was in a different form of being in the zone. own. You know, I was just feeling it. And by that time, the words and the phrasing had come together. But I was just, so I remember that, or I remember not remembering that. Yeah. That's good. And then hearing it back, I thought, wow, that's pretty cool. And didn't realize that the vocal, that they had been five hours apart, but they actually sounded. Could you tell the difference in listening to it? No, I couldn't. I was surprised to hear that it was the two.

You know, listen to your speaking voice. It's kind of your singing voice. I wonder one of the first time you about, holy shit, I can sing. Because it is a voice. You're one of the voices. Yeah, yeah. You know, there must have been. It hasn't happened yet.

That's not also good. We all think everything is still blossoming. This is very nice to hear. I'll take that. I have some more compliment. I mean, you could just go on at Google and Google your name. Who are the? I was guessing top rock voices and I scribbled some down.

I don't know if you'll agree, but I was like minor right, so you guys can agree or not. Well, I was on the list. I mean, I don't know. We'll see. Tiny Tim. We're going back. And then I got a shot. If you start with Tiny Tim, I think I might.

I think I might have a chance. I have a chance. That is a first. Tiny Tim was the very happy. Carrot top of his. Yeah. No, I, you know what? I know the ones to get mentioned a lot.

I mean, Axel's got a very unique voice. Robert Plant, of course, the basics. But Bond Scott, would you give it up for Bond Scott? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Isn't that sickening, Dana? I love Bon Scott. And it was so hard to replace. ACDC still crushed it after, but God dang.

Scott was so interesting. There's Bowie, Steve Perry, curveball, but Steve Perry. Or what journey was, the notes that that guy hit. Yeah. It's like, right. Pretty impressive. Eddie, you agree. Even, I'm not saying even. Sting has a very unique voice. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, Sting's voice is, Sting's voice can cut through the clouds. And, you know, he does some early stuff. Sometimes friends will come over and I'll play him stuff they have never heard. He worked with this German guy called Eberhard Schoner. And he just does some insane stuff with his. At one point, he basically sings the phone book,

meaning an article in a San Francisco paper or something. Yeah. And what he does with it is so extraordinary. Not to mention he's incredible bass player. Yeah, because he's always in the pocket. He's not outside of it. He's not. He's just, he's simple for himself.

He says that, but I, when I listen to synchronicity and the police and I hear Stuart Copeland and I'm going, they're doing reggae, rock, jazz. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And just Copeland, you know, and of course, sting. Very casual drummer that was, I think he was there then. Very, I think I was a little starstruck because I was like, oh, shit, is that Stuart Copeland? I never see. Wasn't Ringo and Stuart Copeland there?

You told me, and I was so jealous at one of the, you. events. Actually, that was my, that was my birthday. How's your birthday? Last year. Were they your birthday gift? I'm going to hang out with Ringo. It was quite peppered with musicians that were.

Okay. Lots of head turners. But by the way, back to EB events, I think, you know, a lot of great people play these events for EB, which you work tirelessly with. And it's such a great event. And it's such an important. you know, thing to help. And we meet the kids. And they always, the performances are great.

The kids are always so friendly and sweet. They're having the toughest time out there, which we can talk about. But some of those nights, I even think, I think I did it once. I think Dana might have done it. Zach Alfenakis, always good. There's always like comedy and music. I think Chris Cornell maybe one night in the old days. So we are very blessed with those parties, but they're very, very actually important events,

which ties into this documentary about EB that Dana and I are watching. It's very, very strong stuff and it's very pulls at the heartstrings. I will say that. Well, we're really feeling fortunate that it was, that it's now out there on Netflix. I think you mentioned. Netflix, a matter of time. That's all you have to. matter of time.

Matter of time. Yeah, it will serve as a education on, you know, anybody who asks has curiosity, anybody who asks us about, you know, what is epidermalysis belosa, what is this EB? This can forever serve as the answer to all the questions. And you really get to know not only the kids, and their families and the challenges, but you get to meet these incredible people working on this whole community's behalf, meaning the researchers

and the genetic scientists, genetic researchers. You know, they say this thing about heroes, something like heroes aren't made, it's more people face with, with incredible circumstances or facing difficult consequence. And that is where these heroes are born. And this film is, it's really full of them. Because you see how heroic and courageous these kids are.

Oh my God. You see what the families go through, with the siblings go through. And you also see that these, you know, genetic researchers going at it day after day with the funding that's provided to them through these fundraisers, it is, it's such a, I'm so glad you get to know these people on a personal level because you see it's not just, you know, people in lab coats, you know, punching the clock. This is their life's work.

They're dreaming about it. They're coming to work each day, thinking about the new approach, trial and error. They feel so close. You know, it's a monogenic condition, meaning it's just one mutated gene in the DNA. they've isolated that gene so now they're just trying to you know be able to fix that and you know the hope on the horizon is not only would it that process when they figured out how to unlock this key it would not only you know we're on the forefront you know we're like on the runway at this time of genetic research, E.B. in particular.

But once that lifts off, it'll help thousands and thousands of other genetic skin disorders. Right, yeah. Yeah. Because the kids, first of all, when I see them, I'd see a lot of the same ones every year at the event. And always upbeat, always cool kids, always fun, up for having a good time. I know they don't get to do that much fun stuff. It's just even some of the scientists and doctors are saying when they get stuck, they go, we have these breakthroughs. And then when it's stuck, you're just really helping with the pain.

It's not really helping them. You're just like they have to take bandages off, put them back. It's just pain. And it's just so hard to be a parent to watch that. And I can't imagine. So you're doing a good thing. And everyone over there, obviously Jill, your wife is working hard. and just to be a part of it.

And we get to go just once a year and help or different little events you have. But man, I'm telling you, they deserve a break. That's for sure. Well, in this film is about, it was two years ago, we really wanted to get the whole community together in Seattle. It was a whole day full of symposiums. It was basically an EB summit with doctors, donors, family.

and then the music was just supposed to be kind of a reason to get together around the campfire at the end of the night. And I will say it was it was difficult. The songs had more weight looking out in the crowd and seeing my friends, the doctors, seeing my friends, the families and the kids. It became very emotional, and they filmed it and really not thinking, you know, we're just kind of trying to document it. But then the more we saw, and then this great filmmaker, Matt Finlan, who we were working with, another great Canadian, he was able to, and I can't think of anybody else who could have done this, really, because he had been working. with EB stuff and with us for probably about five years at that point. But at that point, knowing the sensibilities, the families, knowing them personally,

and he was able to kind of ask them to be part of their lives and film some things that were uncomfortable. And film some instances that would take courage to allow it to be filmed. and it's really a great testament. It's a wake-up call for people to watch it, you know. So I think it's necessary sometimes to say, this is really what's going on here. Yeah, because I don't, you know, even a few of the folks that came to have come to the events over the years,

the ones at Gervitt's House in California, they didn't really understand it until the film. that kind of reminds you that there's there was a lot of education that was that seems to be welcome now that people are seeing it. We're getting so much good feedback already. For sure. It's very interesting that it's one gene, you know, because I'm sort of casually know a cardiologist, P.K. Shaw at Cedar Sinai, and he's in their research labs. And a lot of times it's like 20 different genes, 30 different genes, but just one gene. I'm very hopeful. I'm hoping that AI for whatever monstrosity it may bring to us is also going to go, you know,

make these. Do some good, yeah. Deep forward. And I'm hoping that within five or 10 years, cancer is pretty much fixed. And I pray that this one is too. Yeah. You know, and many other scleroderma, which is an autoimmune. disease primarily but it reminds me of that because David and I I went to a few of

those with Bob Sagin and when you see a child pretty little girl in a wheelchair and then she has a pink bow in her hair you just it's very it's so I mean I had hard both Bob Sagin and I God rest of soul we were just done after that we we had to go up and do comedy but it was this like yeah so the the documentary I'm sure is is just completely heart-wrenching, but you can't ever bang the drum hard enough for the amount of suffering that happens ad hoc around the world. These parents, this just happened.

And so I couldn't respect you more for taking this on, not for a day or a week. I think it's been 15 years of this foundation. And so kudos to you. Thank you. Well, it's a good team. It's a great board. We do something called Venture for Lever.

philanthropy, which is a newer model. So if we fund research and something happens because of the research, positive. And for example, you talked about pain earlier, David, you know, we've been able to come out with now three FDA-approved treatments, not cures, but just treatments for the pain, for the wounds. Yeah, great. It's gene therapy, which is a newer thing. And, you know, what you said, we might be in that perfect, you know, there is a wave of technology. Even going back five, seven years, you know, computing power really helped, you know, map the human genome, et cetera. So, you know, it being a single, single mutation, you know, we're lucky in that way because think of all the variables with the 20, as you mentioned.

Yeah. But this hopefully would be, well, it is the start to cracking these codes. Yeah, it's a hopeful time in medicine for sure. Yeah. It's wearing a nice with all this new stuff. Time shift. Well, those parties at Gervitses, the fundraisers are great. Everyone has a good time in spite of what's going on, but we hope the kids come and get a breather.

I know there's a lot of celebrities. We don't have to name them all, but there's a lot of people that really show up and help out. And I think it's fun for everybody. So people just watch the documentary. Everyone has a documentary pretty much. Watch the documentary and they'll know if they want to make a donation. Is it there or we can also put it in our intro or talk about it now? Yeah, I'm not sure if the information.

I think it's more if you look it up. It's just it stands as a film on its own. And EBRP, excuse me, EBRP is the name of the organization. And like I said, we have, we've been able to streamline the boat. You know, all the things that you want in an organization, including, I will say, these angel donors that come in and just take care of all the administrative costs for every year. It's a big deal. Which means all of these funds that are raised go direct to research.

You know, we have so many reasons to be proud of this and now to be able to be proud of the film. It feels, you know, we're making more progress than getting. setbacks. So we're in a good space. Nice. And really being here with you guys and talking about it, it means a lot to us. So on behalf of everybody, we thank you. For sure, for sure. Glad to help. EB research partnership or EBRB, if that helped. EB research, so you remember the RV research partnership. You know, every year, David, I think we can unequivocally say this. We make resolutions that somehow never stick. But this year, I've found the one resolution that actually works.

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really they were really sweet people to know and a story worth telling and you know you talk about going from playing drums on your mom's cookbook to you know this guy um he uh lightning he he had a dream and he wasn't going to let it go and it was again And it was, again, very, you know, what I will say is that to think that years after he passed, you know, his spirit has to be out there somewhere knowing and just inflated with pride knowing that not just they made a film, but fucking huge acment plays him. It's pretty amazing. Couldn't imagine. Couldn't imagine. Yeah, for sure.

And Kate Hudson's amazing as Claire. She's really amazing. Yeah, I'm in the middle of it. I didn't even know it was real. I'm in the middle of it just thinking, I like Neil Diamond. I sang one of his songs and were my movies. I went in song in concert.

And I was like, oh, this sounds like it's up my alley, just on the perifio, you know? And then here comes Eddie Vedder calling him. But I didn't know that was real either. So I found out later it was real. You did call. Yeah, they were, I knew this other. Someone you heard about, you just heard that they were out there.

It was kind of funny and they were doing things. And you're like, let's bring them out. Well, Milwaukee had this interesting little scene of odd acts. Another one was called The Frogs, which was a two-man, two brothers that would play songs like Adam and Steve. you know, drink dress-up in pink sailor suits. It was a thing. But Nirvana loved them. This friend of ours, Bob Whitaker, Mudhoney, we loved them.

And I think they turned us onto lightning and thunder. And you just wanted them to, you know, another guy, Wesley Willis out of Chicago. You know, you had an opportunity, because the light was shining on you to share that light with some folks that you thought deserved it. And, you know, it wasn't always easy because then they might think like, oh, you know, here we go. And it's not, you know, it's hard.

You know, you hope they can handle it. Right. It's so nutty. I mean, you called him. That's a big deal. Then you Jackman plays him down the line. But you just never know. It's such an odd business. And they're in front of a big crowd for you guys. And you, did he call you to, did he ask you to sing with him? Is that what it was? And that was real? Backstage, yeah, I think he asked. That's how it's depicted, something like that. And then you go out there and sing with him, which is, what a blast. Yeah, yeah. They were very sweet. And it was a big crowd for him. And that was nice. Their cup was filled for a little bit there. And then that movie is filled with, you know,

there's some combustion, you know, accidents happen in their lives. And they have to deal with that. And it's a real story. Yeah, very interesting. Dana, you don't know. Dana, we were going to. We were going to. Yeah, for a moment.

I was excited for S&O. I couldn't believe you were even possibly going to do that with me. I was going to. Eddie veteran. I want to see it. Chop and broccoli. And I was trying to think of how to do it, you know, because it's at, you know, that what it wasn't, it wasn't within a sketch. I used to do it in my stand-up act, just solo with a little piano.

If there was one available. But yeah, I guess you were going to maybe I was going to start and then you were going to come out and she chop. And then kind of way, she chop. She chopped with your pipes, chopping broccoli, man. Hysterical. Yeah, we'll get to it. Maybe one day. We'll get to it.

You know, but yeah, that would have been a blast. Well, I can't sing. I mean, I'm a comedian. I can fake sing, you know. No, you can sing. I think you can sing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, I can sing a little like Neil because just because for whatever reason,

but a lot of people can, but I can't. When you see a real singer, you know, it's like a real drummer. I fake it at a lot of things. When you see a real talent in music, kind of like, okay, that was not my calling. But thank you. But we would have rocked it and I would have blown you away. But my point is this, Eddie. Sijit.

Well, the thing is, I agreed to work with you. And then next thing you know, they had me dressed up as a pirate. Oh, that's right. I didn't really agree to that. No, were you in the Broadway show? We were on the Friday night show. Was it a Radio City musical or where was it? I went to that.

Yeah, it was really. You were in the pirate sketch. Yeah. Well, they had a few band, Lady Gaga and etc. Yeah, there's a bunch of people in there. I remember that. Yeah. Lady Gaga.

I was at that show. It was a fucking great. That one they should have aired. I guess they probably couldn't because all the music, but it was cool as shit. That was good. And we were going to do Tom Petty at one of the shows. Oh, we were on the Tom Petty. Oh, we were on the Bill Maher show.

Yeah. No, at your, at your birthday, I was, I said, or Bill Maher ruined it because he said, hey, are you going to stick around? I said, yeah, I think we're all going to sing. And then, and then he said, and we have to leave. And he goes, no, Eddie's not going to sing. He said, you shouldn't stick around because he's not going to think we're wrapping up. So the cake came up. And then he goes, everyone's taking off.

Why is he sabotaging me? We were going to sing Tom Petty. And so I left. And then honestly, an hour later, Adam called and said, hey, where are you? You're up. And I go, I thought everyone left. And then who got to steal my Tom Petty song with you? Was it Adam?

You know, I think because you weren't there, we just didn't do it. Oh, good. You know what? It's not the same. Yeah. Adam can sing, though. Adam's good. Eddie can play guitar.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was. Yeah. He wanders. His life is all green lights. My God. And he can write. Yeah.

He can write. I know. But no, he can really play. Yeah, that's a fun thing. We all, I think we're in Seattle doing a gig. Was Norm there when you came out to see? Sandler's tour and see howb. Do you remember that? Norm was there.

There's been a couple, but Norm, yeah. Eddie came out and did some Who song, and then we're like, okay, here's a real singer. Here we go. Oh, I forgot about that. We did Can't Explain anything. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Maybe hard to come. I think so.

I think that's where I snake that hat. I think it is. Where is it? We could be twinning right now. It's so similar to that. It's exact same. It might have the writing up. Yeah, yours looks a little.

little newer. You gave me the cheap one. But anyway, Dana, you'll have to come out with me and Eddie one day. It's complicated. I'd like to be a fly on the wall. Or just listen to music. I'd love to listen to the Beatles with Dana. Are you kidding? That would be a dream. I'm so, I'm not alone in this, but I'm equally as possessed as Conan O'Brien or J.J. Abrams or my brothers. Um, but I, I, how can you do it? How can you be around Paul? I, I just think that what happened in that Renaissance decade. And I, I love their early stuff because they, people say, well, later on, they got better.

I go, no, no, no, for they were the best two minute pop ban in history. Then, then those guys extrapolated into strawberry fields and Penny Lane as a, a double A side single. So I, I can't ever wrap my mind. Don't even get me started on the Beatles. Crazy. I just, you know, I'm from that. Did you just by random chance, did you hear the Ringo is nice enough to come play? We were talking about that solo record a minute ago.

Earthlings and Ringo came. We were thinking, well, this really needs like a Ringo type thing. And then Andrew Watt, next thing you know, had him on the phone. We were going over to his house to have him play. it and um it was it was it was so crazy because it literally right before our eyes and he's such a young presence and energy anyway but he he looked like he was 25 years old you know oh it's got a certain style and you go oh my god unmistakable yeah he's got that shoulder roll and he didn't always go for the splash he loves the tom's and he gets in the pocket and

This, I don't even know this is true, but you may be able to tell me. So Andrew Wyatt was at the S&O party and Jimmy Fallon's there. Name drops, you know, and they're going, we're big beetle fans. We're talking about Abby Road, you know, and they're like, oh, yeah, we're big beetle fans. Abby Road. And I go, have you heard Revolver? And I think both of them said, yeah, I'm not really familiar, you know, and Andrew too. I go, you guys haven't hurt Revolver and your Beatle fans?

But anyway, that blew my mind. but um i don't have a favorite i think every album is just something magical you know you know my uncle had a uh a memorex tape you know those strange little cassettes that was like an l and it said it just said revolver white album and that was one of my like first forays into the heavy stuff oh just to hear it over and over and i thought it was all one album all the you know, white album and revolver. That's, that's a heavy listen. You can trip out as a 12 year old.

Yeah, obviously tomorrow never knows. Txy, Sadie, happiness is a warm gun. These are kind of these Lenny, just, what do you ever you call them? Bungalow Bill. Bungalow Bill. Yeah. It never, right? Dear Prudence.

Eleanor Ribby. Incredible. Yeah. And your bird can sing. Two minutes of brilliance, you know, in harmony. Julia. I think Julia's in there. Yeah, there's another linen.

It's, you know. All right. Let's let Eddie go. He seems like a nice guy. Do you have any last words for us? Yeah, anything you want to tell us, Eddie, before you go? Just sum up. Here he comes.

Oh, shoot. Well, you know, I will. I was thinking about Marty and Martin Short. And I know it's, I heard he was magnificent at the service. And I was going to share with you this, this funny thing that happened during COVID. But this is how quick, we were talking about how quick people are. So present company, me excluded. But then Marty, Marty calls up about four months into COVID, just out of the blue.

And he says, well, hello, Eddie. I was just checking in, see how my young friend is doing. And he said, how are you, a young man? And I said, you know, I'm actually a little frustrated with myself because what had happened when COVID hit and I smoke and drank and and I thought oh Jesus Christ you know this is it it's a it's a lung thing it's a respiratory thing like I got to drop this quick like I'm gonna die from this some crazy fucking so totally quit feeling pretty good and then about four or five months in something started happening and I stressed out now I'm having a couple

smokes and now I'm having yeah so Marty says I said, well, I'm frustrated with myself. I'm smoking again. You know, I'd quit because of COVID. He said, oh, what do you? Are you smoking? Are you talking pot or cigarettes? I said, I said, cigarettes.

He said, oh, are you still waiting for more literature on that? And that, and that was the last time I ever had a cigarette. Really? Oh, really? just like that oh i want to agree maybe not really but it makes for it makes for a better story you should never talk to him again because he ended on such a hit that's a great one oh no he's full of him he's that's true he's full of him we love one talk show appearance he's got about yeah he's he was on my idol list him and steve martin in the 70s oh yeah oh yeah still so in

all they're still out there doing shows i know between the two of them you're like Gervitz. I got to put them out there. I go, Mark, they're a little old. I don't care. 100 dates a year. You can love Eddie Veda. Eddie Vedder. Buy his money. I'd throw mine away. That's some good Mark Gervitz right there.

We went snorkeling. He's my friend. Who's better than you? Who's better than you? He sat with me on a canoe. This is the thanks he gets for hosting all these backyard parties. I know. And having all comedians and we all just make fun of them. No, he loves this. He wants us to make fun of him.

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