Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Netflix is a Joke, Oscar Nominations, + Playing the Role of Poop???

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

Dana and David react to the Oscar nominations before weighing in on Davos, Trump, and Greenland—because why not? From there, they go full inside baseball: their upcoming Netflix Is a Joke show, the real impact of test screenings on movies, the biggest laughs Tommy Boy got initially versus what audiences ended up loving, and why Jordan Peele quit acting altogether. Plus, other news along the way. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here's with our movie review of the year. We haven't seen any of the movies, but we're about to tell you. That's like our other review we did. We didn't. Oh, yeah, our top five movies of the year. What if we put a tear up on our audience? That's the thing we do. We're going to have every single guest.

Dave Chappelle will be there every night. We're going to have Shane Gillis. He sits on the couch. Everybody's coming. It's the biggest thing. Who's jizz again? We haven't cast that yet. Welcome.

Welcome. to another edition, episode 3,489. We're going to rip apart the Academy Awards. Peace by piece. Oh, I'm such a boomer. I look at them and I go, oh, man, how many of the top ten, I mean, the ten nominated movies, have I seen? I got a lot of work to do.

How about have you heard of for good scene? Can you pronounce Bagonia? I mean. I saw Petunia. I saw it already. I'll see anything with Jesse Plymins and Emma Stone. Very good. Are they up for anything because they were all very good?

I don't know. Do we have the, can we throw the nominations up? Interesting director. By the way, this is like the MTV Awards where I don't know literally one person. Okay, I saw Marty Supreme because we got a screener. Thought it was great. I've not seen Frankenstein.

I've seen the original one from 1932. I don't know if that helps. That guy's hot. That's all I've heard. F1 is kind of a surprise. That's quite an honor. That is a surprise for sure. I mean, Brad Pitt is a genuine movie star.

And sometimes the Academy Awards, because now they have, what, 10 or eight or whatever? No, it's 10 now. It used to be five. So you can sort of squeak in with an F1. Have you seen that? Like a popcorn movie. Yeah, it's one big tent pole movie.

It made like 700 million. Fun, yeah. Brad Pitt does Brad Pitt, super charisma um you're reading them because they're too small for me i know i got my glasses on the secret agent i think it's from brazil i'm kind of interested in that i haven't seen it okay you've seen secret agent ever you back and forth here's with our movie review of the year we haven't seen any of the movies but we're about to tell you that's like our other review we did we didn't oh yeah our top five movies of the year yeah it's one movie we haven't seen

scene after another, speaking of which, Leonardo decapitated, I mean, DiCaprio, in one battle after another, PTA, Paul Thomas Anderson. Is he up for it? He's up for actor, but also. Oh, he is. It looks like it's going to be a shootout at movie Corral. Where did you see that? I perused. I've kind of, I'm looking, oh, I'm just looking at this. Let's go by the pictures first. One battle, go. One battle after another. I've seen it. I said it's Kubricky. It's Tarantino E. I think it's a movie that I'm going to see twice before I give my reading on it. Because it's obviously brilliantly done. Will you ever see it twice to do that?

Are you out? No, no, I like to see movies. It'll be a lazy Sunday afternoon, partly cloudy. No one will be around. I'll try to walkie-talkie you. You won't answer back. And I go, fuck, I don't put it on. I like movies.

Chickens are relaxed. Everything's cool. Everything's been fed. Here's what is. Here's what the turf war is right now. Okay, where's the battle? It's sinners versus one battle after another. Sinners, I think, got 16 Academy Award nominations.

I think it might be the most of all time. One battle after another, I think got the second most. Yeah, well, you're skipping train dreams. I saw the guy from train dreams at the... Train dreams. I have not heard of that one. I think Joel Egerton and and he dropped a glass right by my foot and it's smashed in the bits and I literally great guy syndrome I fucking kept people back with him while we waited and tried to pick

up shards and then it got to the point where this is someone else's job they were too small this is the star of train dreams you had this interaction yeah did I get that right I've seen so many billboards and shit for it train dreams it looks like the feel bad movie the summer but because it's like very slow. I think I would actually like it, but sometimes it looks a little emotional and I can't have any emotion. Well, what if it's not analogous?

What if it's actually just about people dreaming on trains? It's like literal. Could that be a good movie? I have not seen it, but it's on my bucket list. They are definitely pushing it, and I feel like you and Paula would like it. I don't think I wouldn't like it. I just feel like it's kind of like a really beautifully shot,

cool but I feel like it might be sad and I can't be sad right now oh yeah darkness now give me some give me give me give me f1 where yeah I would have nominated Jurassic Park with my friend Scarlett Johansson I thought that was a great movie I thought it was a great have you seen it have you seen it you know who got snubbed the Velasiraptorus It was just a well done, riveting action film. I think it's right up there with F1. And, you know, always, I never underestimate Tommy Cruz. And you got to vote for Tommy Cruz when he's hanging off airplanes and holding his breath and banging bricks at his head and, you know, drowning himself.

Is he in any of these? Is he up for? I can't see the microscopic print. He got ignored by the academy. He got shunned by the academy. By the way, are you in the academy? I don't think so. If not, if so I'm not moving along.

Well, go to another category. Let's really get into it. Okay, Frankenstein also. Have you seen that? Sinners will, I saw pieces of it. That's such an LA thing. I saw pieces of it. I've heard sinners is brilliant.

I heard sinners great. But you know your precious weapons is enough for it. I know. They're giving it two best supporting actress for... Is it Amy Madigan? Yes. Who's always been great.

Okay, here we are. Leading actors, Timothy Shalamedi. Shammalamma ding-dong. You got to have cool names. Look at these Decaprio, Shalabay. You couldn't come in with Steve Edwards or something. Ethan Hawk is a great name. Bill Squankmeyer.

You need half of the thing is now the dirty secret about the Golden Gloves. The dirty, and I should even tell you, Dana. Well, I want to know. What's the dirty secret? is that, especially in the old days, but I think they still do it, they will nominate any star for anything because they just want stars there. So you'll be like, wow, the rock got up for best dramatic actor, they just want the rock there, you know? So they want as many big stars in that. Oh, yeah, that's been pretty transparent for a long time. That's kind of a...

This is a big secret, and you can't tell our, even our audience can't know. Yes. The craziest nominations. I can't remember the one that was famous. Pierre, I don't know, somebody got Best Actress in it. Pepe Lapew. Pepew Lepewes got nominated for Best Director. Well, look, Chamle, I mean, Oscars, it's a little whiff of the same thing, but I think they're better about it.

But Ethan Hawk, what is that movie it says? Blue Moon. Blue fucking Moon. And I have not seen it. Very interesting story, actually. he plays he was riding with Hammerstein and made did all these incredible things I think I know you're asleep

Hammerstein yeah who does he play for the Knicks no and then Rogers and Hammerstein kind of took over I believe and he sort of lost the job he's an alcoholic he's great in it he's got a bald cap and a comb over that'll do it he's really good

he's good anyway though I'm not trying to negate and I look like him on that picture once remember heather they thought it was me so i and i don't even think i've met him in my travels and i would like him well he's like um one of those great actors it's not not hungry he's not thirsty it kind of gives you sort of a cool vibe when you're not out there all the time and then he does these indie films where he's brilliant but he's kind of behind the and then he jumps in black phone which is like a secret like a a hit on the uh yeah terror horror movie and he's got my hawk he's got umah thurman he's got umma thurman so it's the talented family who's that guy of wagner

i think that's the brazilian movie right he won the golden globe he did or most oh that's right to win a golden globe. Film that has almost no chance. Our nominees are Pepe Loupie, starring David Spade. Our nominees are this speck of a movie that no one's seen. You know when Valentine's Day is sneaking up and you realize you need a gift that actually lands? If you've ever thought, I hope she likes this.

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Okay, supporting actors. Benicio, I love, of course. He's always great. And he was in your movie. With the did have best driving shot, I saw a whole TikTok breakdown of the director and cinematographer talking about the driving shot over the hills like this. Yeah, yeah. And how they did it. It was too long, but it was good.

It's super, super well shot. Jacob Elordy. Jacob Escorty on scoring. New to the scene. Looks cool. Like the director. You got to be in a mood. I have not seen frankly.

Is it scary? or is it just cool? Maybe a little bit of both. I think it's probably more emotional, more emotional than scary. He wants to be human. It's a Pinocchio thing again. He wants to be a real person.

He doesn't want to be a monster. I'm tired of this 19-inch dick you put on me. And the doctor's like, you are? He's like, I'm kidding, but the rest of it, I don't know. And the doctor's like, it's all I had. It's all I had. I was going to give you a 10-incher, but you know, these don't come cheap.

Yeah, you're tall. They gave me a group rate at the store. You're Frankenstein. You can't have a tiny wiener. I know, but it looks like a crescent wrench. It is. And time. After nine minutes and 42 seconds, we reference.

Said weiner. All right. Delroy Lindo is just a cool actor that's in so many things that you don't even know and he's great. And good to see him in there. He's a sleeper. because he has been in so much stuff. Sean Penn, believe it or not, I believe has two best actor wins.

Yeah. Mystic River, maybe? Mystic River and then the prison one. Oh, yeah, with the nun. Yeah. And that's what the movie was called, the prison guy and the nun. Darned Sean Penn.

He's great in this. Debman Walking. He's great in this with shocking white hair. He's super tan and he plays kind of a crazy weirdo. He's absolutely riveting in this. And of course, Scarsgaard, whose son is famous, and he's been around forever. He's kind of a sentimental value.

The name of the movie is the way I feel about him as far as getting the best supporting actor. I love Sean. The character I thought was a little whatever. All right, what are they women? And then we'll move on. Do they have those? Let's go to the ladies.

the actress oh yeah there was one shocker i just heard hmm what do you mean got nominated for best actress right that's song sung lu which is on pay-per-view now i'm going to watch it i love neil diamond i sang neil diamond in a movie really were you on key no i don't even think they had auto tune back then so we had a really fucking rough it, but it was in Lost and Town. They're coming to America. No, it was Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show, and I think I saw them seeing it in the trailer for this one. Neil Diamond is one of those artists.

I love Neil Diamond. That is going to future trip. There's something about his voice and those anthony songs just are never going to go. August nights, yeah. Never going to go over. Okay, read these names because too small. Jesse Buckley for Hampton.

Amnet. And she won Golden Glow's best actress, right? I never have heard of this movie. Now I've heard of it too much. It's a Shakespeare kind of thing. And then in real kind of old-timey England, you know, they'd say hamlet. Later on, it became omelet and then amlet. I like, they should have stopped at omelet.

Omelet, yeah. If I had legs, I'll kick you, Roseburn. Oh, Ron. Our buddy Conan O'Brien is in that plane. psychiatrist. Oh, good. Kate Hudson, song sung blue. Renee, Resinvviv. Sorry. Sorry, Renee. Sentimental value. And then, of course, on and only Emma Stone, Bologna. Oh, for Bologna? For Bologna. It was, the original title was Bologna sandwich and they shortened it. It's kind of a cool premise. I will see that because

She's, uh, I saw it. She's next level, right? I finally saw something, Nina. Oh, you don't watch movies. I do. You get lost on the web. I'm watching the rip on Netflix. It's taking me three times.

But I do like it. It's just I do something. And then I leave. And I came back from the comedy store last night. I leave. Go to bed. We're watching the pit. And we're watching.

Oh, yeah. And we're watching on PBS, all creatures great and small. There could be two things more opposite. It's called having range. I know I like it. I will watch one about bugs and animals and then I narrate it as I talk to the TV. It's funny. I make fun of it.

But they're always cool to watch like a bug's life. They follow a bug around or they follow like a little. You mean a real like documentary with real like. Yeah, like a real skunk around or they follow just some weird animal in the morning. They go out sniffing for this. It's so funny. I do like, I like, I like, I like that documentaries and animal shows. I pull up my gigs because Dana is quietly wanting.

Don't be squeamish about your huge national tour. You don't hide. Okay, no, I got them. I know I want to talk about, I'm coming to, oh, by this time this there's. Yeah, Appleton, Milwaukee, and Chicago will be on the weekend. Then we got Oklahoma, Texas and San Antonio. then we've got Durham, North Carolina, Northfolk. Oh, okay.

I like what I'm hearing. Charlotte, Pittsburgh coming up. And of course, Nashville, but, oh yeah, Tyson's Virginia. What is Tyson's? Nobody knows. I've done it, too. What's ovens? Is that the arena?

Could you make a list of the hotels or motels you're going to be staying at? Are there any Hamptons in? Is there Hampton in your future? No, I stay at some fucking. Well, if you're off, off main label, if you're out of two hours from a major city, I think in Tyson, your best thing is going to be a best Western. Yeah. The breakfast buffet is awesome.

You know me, is he breezy? Yeah, yeah. Best Western. When I did last time was in, was it Charlotte, Christian McCaffrey and some football players came and it was so fun. And we laughed and kicked and scratched. I like when people come in. I saw Tony Gonzalez at the comedy store last night. Really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like what I'm hearing. I walked in, I texted him a little bit, then they took his phone away. That's what they do at the store now. Take your phone away. They take your phone away? And that's bad because when I have people there

and I want to talk to them after or say, hey, come out and say hi. I cannot communicate with them. They're scared. Someone will film one of our dog shit sets. Does they really check it? There's not a metal detector. They take your phone data.

They used to take it from your table and a bag. What if you just had it in your back pocket? Well, you can try to pull that scam, but if you pull it out they kick you out so they you put in a bag it's called a yonder bag and you put it on it used to be only with chappelle right you put it on the table but you could see it now they take it to the front which i think is scarier because i do not want my phone out of my eyeballs uh yeah i don't i don't play that game i don't play that fucking people say can they have phones if i do a gig absolutely can they take video oh yeah take all we want well it's good

and go like last night someone would take a shot of like 10 seconds or just a photo and say went to the store it was spade bobby lee bill burr and whitney coming and it's like oh fun you know then that that plugs the store and they go people go oh shit that's a regular night because in the other room was alley wong and sebastian just random night it just really fills up with good comics working before they go on the weekend to do their road like i'm practicing for those gigs i just told So I want to be better, you know. I try. I care about the crowd, spending money, getting a babysitter, coming down.

I'll just say this, the comedy store, which is the Borg. It is the mothership. Yeah, it's great. So it gets superstar comedians, men and women to come in there and play for a nickel. And it's been a great thing. I mean, I still, when I've gone in there, it always gives me a little bit of the willies. because of the way I felt about it. It's a little nerve-wracking?

Yeah, something about the black walls and the whites and the energy around it. Yeah. Did you audition for Mitzie Go? Of course. Did you get it? No. You didn't?

No. I didn't either. How fucking funny. I don't think you would get it before me for sure. Nah, my stand-up was pretty rudimentary at that point. And then I think she said wear a sweater or so. I went over to her booth and she's on her third cocktail looks up. You should wear a sweater, darling.

Come back in two years. You buy a sweater every day for two years. They can change your act. But then I went over to Bud Freeman and the improv. Yeah, that's what I did. And they put me on. Yeah, exact. But who got you in?

I know who got me in at the comedy store and the improv. I think for people at home, I think you need to have someone recommend you. I don't know who got me in there. I really don't. Was it Robin? Her. Oh, don't be afraid. He plays for the people.

Her. I remember I asked him, what's your goal? This was before he was on Mork and Mindy. I was interviewing him for a paper at San Francisco State. What is your goals? Oh, I just like to play for the people. Her, I don't know. I mean, he had charisma just sitting in a chair with this deep British accent.

He's not a weird look. It's kind of very riveting to watch. watching. He's like, you know, he's got an odd face. And when you really break it down, he looks kind of interesting and the way he kind of moved. Oh, definitely. With barrel chested, he invented this, which it took me a while to figure out why he's so brilliant, because sometimes comedians would go, oh, he's got sticky fingers, his act is hacky. There was some of that. But I said, he invented this motif, Shakespearean trained actor. Yeah. With no material. And, No, is pushed out on a comedy stage. So it's an artifice. It's a thing, but oh, what's going on? And he always had a beret that he'd throw off and he'd pick it up for those of you on essence, this is a frisbee, you know? But the whole thing was really hard for a normal monologist to follow because Robin didn't know where he was going. He'd go in the audience. Oh, someone's shine somebody bald guy's head, you know. So did he have any.

Long, chunky bits. Like when I say, oh, I went to get a massage, right? I have like a four minute bit or a five minute bit. And does he have any of those or was it all like, huh, huh? Well, no, I think, over there. Here's my theory. This is for comedy nerds. I believe the stuff that I saw in 75, 76 was his first special.

And it's so, so rudimentary and so abstract. It's like the stand up you do before you do. you learn how to do stand-up. Later on, I think his management company got him to do long bits, got him to get word for word, got him to be organized. But that first special, something about him just out there. The chaos. Yeah, Asian men, masturbated in front of dinosaurs, you know, it was just so loose and so

powerful. So that's my favorite special when he was not controlled in a way. like with Paula Poundstone, the management company put her in a dress. And she was a tomboy, is it? You know, that was her whole thing, is kind of casual with the sweater and brilliant. But then these managers put her- Was it Breznor Mora or something? I guess so.

I don't want to shit on it. They meant well. Sure. I don't know if they're still around, but I know what you mean. Are you saying it was better with Paula dressing sort of tombish? Well, she just, she had her sweater on. She was the girls. next door she was just you know and then i saw her they got a show on abc and she had heels and nylon

stockings and a dress and lipstick and it just wasn't her she was just this other and she was kind of pretty or just the way she was like oh totally she had very photogenic brilliant uh mind brilliant comedian you know that was a name you heard a lot back then like and she's out there now too she's i'm sure she still goes reader rudner there's a lot that did well yeah uh okay you want to get to some stories or oh yeah i want to talk about the netflix fucking extravaganza comedy festival okay and then we'll get to that is trump um is there any method to his madness don't do that first there's our tease because i find it almost like a sport like okay what because we've seen this play before we're gonna go a 500 percent terror 500

12 million. And then you check in six months later, it's like 13%. You know. 2%. So he's a character and this is what I looked up from his book. Leverage media attention. Use this to create buzz and influence. Create a sense of urgency.

Imply the deal must be made quickly. Use bold claims, make exaggerated statements to assert dominance and capture interest, negotiates from strength, always. being a position to walk away. Good cop, bad cop. I mean, he does this stuff. So like he's going to do tariffs on Europe, maybe maybe by time by airtime, this may be true. And he's going to start at 200% and that grabs everyone's attention. Tariffs on Europe. Crazy. He's high number. He's going to militarily take over Greenland. And so the market just went, pull up, pull up. Pull, pull, dive dive and then the next day he kind of goes no we made a deal I sat with someone we made a deal we made a great deal we're not going to do the tests the tevs we're not but you said we're not going to do it quite frankly people are looking at it if you look at it you see it and you think about it we're going to do a great deal for the whole lot we've got a deal we've got a deal we made a deal we're going to do a deal is that a new one well I have just decided you know how I went with George

George Bush Sr. from, well, we're not going to do it. I'm doing it with Trump. It gets crazy. James Austin Johnson has his Trump is brilliant, but I, I'm trying to entertain myself. So to entertain myself, I have to do this. We do it on full messages in my life. We do things. We're going to go places and people are saying a lot of things and they know. We're going to build igloos. Everybody gets an igloo. We'll take it over. And we don't know where this goes. But it's clear he, he,

likes to put out this thing in negotiation. He's going to bomb Greenland and tariff Europe to shit. And so the prime minister, Canada, came out like an end of day's speech. We, we know that nothing will ever be the same. You know, this is before Trump said, no tariffs, we'll make a deal. Everybody's going to be rich. The thing about Greenland is that Russia and China are sort of creeping around up there. Right.

And they are in circle. They're like, kind of a little, a little mistletful. Putin this is submarine captain valdemir too we are seeing greenland in our telescopes looks like some rare earth minerals maybe sneak in grab some lithium and run for the bother fuck i don't know that lithium give me that's that shit oh we can we need rare earth minerals man i love rare earth rare earth minerals for our phones and stuff so i knew i thought that was really interesting and and how everyone really reacts to the madness. The chaos he creates and the madness.

And then he seems super reasonable by saying. Whatever after that sounds reasonable. Yeah. So countries, 500% tariff. And like, oh, my God, end of world. All right, just 50% tip. Thank you, Mr. Trump. It seems like it's a sixth grade level of thinking, but it seems to work.

It's like a pattern that people are seeing. You're seeing it, but not everyone sees. so they should go, this is the move. Do you do this? It turns into this. Wines up at this. Because the stock market, and I think is about, I got out of the stock market a while ago,

which was one of my great dumb ideas, yeah. I know. I got into movie studios, dumb idea number two. Put it out of mattress. Anyway, so that, that, that. Oh, yeah, let's go back into the Netflix as a joke. Yeah, Netflix is a joke. Explain to our audience what this.

This is. I'll explain how tiny this is. This is, I should have brought a print out, but basically look at how many fucking people are coming. I have to say, Shane Gillis, Kevin Hart. I've never seen this many headliners come to L.A. and blow it up.

I don't know how, if you bought a ticket to each one, it would be about $7 million. Cat Williams. I want to see that one. Cat Williams. Okay, let me look at this. Cat Williams. With David Letterman.

There's Gaff again. There's Lep again. There's Shane Gillis. There's Nikki Glazer's roasting the river. No, I'm kidding. But, you know, they're just, they're putting everybody everywhere. And I didn't know they had it organized in days because this is more interesting. But to pick between Malaney, I can't even see him from here, but to pick between so many huge stars.

Right. And we're doing our podcast there. We're doing flying the wall. Who's our guest? I have an idea. I can't say it. Heather? I have an idea. I can't say it. Heather will be there. But I don't, I can't say yet. So I'll tell you, I'll tell you when I can, Dana. How are we going to stand out? These are so many shows. Do you buy one ticket and get you into all the shows? I hope like a ski pass. I don't know, but who's the freak that's going to see more than two of these shows?

What kind of human beings can see this? I mean, if you're a comedy fan, you should just move here and sell all your possessions. They're Burgatsi. Burgatsi's doing I mean

pretty much everyone you can think of is here and doing a show and we gotta get a really weird it's called

almost too much of a good thing. Ted really flipped this thing and Robbie over Netflix into a huge deal pretty quickly.

I think we did it last year. Did we interview Will Farrell? Was that was that one? Well, I don't think it was last year but we had Adam Sandler early on.

Yeah, that might have been us at the Will Turn. But we have, anyway, we're going to be there. We're excited. Get your tickets. And I'll just say this, that I can't really say exactly what's going to happen at our show. Okay. But I know it will never be forgotten. So just let that float out there.

Are you going to Kurt Kreischer with no shirt? We're not going to be boring. We're not going to be boring. He can't be boring anymore. We've got to be like Trump in a way. We're going to do the craziest thing because we know how to do crazy. We're going to go nuts. Everybody's going to see it.

What if we put a tariff on our audience? That's the thing we do. We're going to have every single guest. Dave Chappelle will be there every night. We're going to have Shane Gillis. He sits on the couch. Everybody's coming. It's the biggest thing.

Crick. Cut two. It's you, me. And I don't know. I don't want to pick on anybody. I know. Open mic.

Don't you dare say anyone bad. I won't say a name. I won't say a name. We'll be a cast off from the 1987 S&L cast. We're going to have the original cast of Captain Kangaroo is going to be there. They're a little long in the truth, but we're going to. No, you just offended them. No, no.

Anyway, the Netflix is a joke thing will be pretty fun. I don't know what they're actually filming to put on Netflix, if anything. But I know there's a lot going on. I just don't know about the name because there are people who kind of make fun in Netflix because it's the biggest live streaming. I mean, it's it's it is the board for, for global television. But some, I heard a guy without any irony just say, oh, it's a joke, man. I think honestly that's how it started where people, when Netflix started, they said

Netflix is a joke. And then they go, when we start our comedy division, that might be a funny way to label it. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. But it's working. Okay, what's the next story?

Let's get to some headlines. Let's get to some real. We really dig into headlines that are three weeks ago. That was our warm up. That was our warm up. Now we're ready to rock. Oh, here's a Netflix-related story. See, I like when they're sort of related.

There's a little thought put in here. Matt Damon says Netflix films, oh, he did the rip, which I'm watching. Have to reiterate the plot three or four times in the dialogue because people are on their phones. Yes, I read this. He says that, an executive said it wouldn't be bad to keep letting people know now in a regular movie because I've written movies with people this happens where they say kind of remind everyone where we're at orientate orient them but if you do a screening of a movie like bus boys and then at the end you go any

questions they go why did you make this but usually they're more precise like uh that's not what you want so you guys are dealing drugs and you go yeah so if you hear something a few times in a screening you go okay let's let's clarify that let's go back put in a voiceover or shoot one extra seed people don't understand we went from here to here so in these movies they're saying do that even more like dumb it down is what you're saying or do it in a different way i say clarity is king when it comes to this when you're trying to watch a movie and after about seven or eight minutes you're not quite sure where you are what am i watching is the tone consistent if you're If you watch a Sylvester's Delon movie or Arnold movie, and even Adam Sandler is really good at just laying it out.

It's not redundant. It's just we're clear where we are in the first two minutes, what we're watching. Well, you want a clear plot, hopefully. I think so, unless it's a mystery, but a good movie is a good movie. I, you know, in the middle of this movie, I'm watching it. Matt Damon looks at the camera and goes, oh, my God, I'm Matt Damon, and that's Ben Affleck. And we teamed our money and we made a deal to do this movie. We're the good guys.

We're fighting the Colombian cartel. And he's telling it to a cat in the movie. And the cat goes, wow. And then I go, oh, that was a good way to do it. Now I understand it again. Then I forget 20 minutes later, who are these people? What's going on? They go, oh, the Colombian cartel is coming.

And they're mad. And I'm like, oh, that's right. I did a PG comedy once called Master's Guys. And at the screening, it was so chaotic because we didn't have any time to rewrite the script but it was so chaotic no one knew what was going on at all of his most confusing movie ever and even even Brad Gray was slumping down all the agents and managers were in their chairs they read the comment cards are just like hey fuck you so what we did which maybe you could do with busboys if you needed I don't know where you're at but yeah narrator

narrator's help uh I do say Dickie Roberts one of the comment was David Spade is generally annoying, but I did like this movie. And I liked him in it. He has to add that at the beginning. I remember I kept that card. Wow. Well, at least he ended by going, I'll give it a good score. There is a human being.

When you make a movie and you're going to show it to people and they're going to fill out cards. There's a person, a man or a woman who guides the audience through it. Here's your card. This means this. This means this. Yeah. So I figured out after two screenings where we were at imperceptible, like a point O'O. I said, I got to talk to that guy.

So then I talked to that guy and then his spiel to the audience was very different. Oh, you steered it a bit. Smart. Well, just asking the right questions, setting there up, don't be confused, whatever, or the way he would couch it would sometimes influence people. You know what happens is for people at home is they test every movie. And I sit in the back on most of the ones I'm in. And it's kind of fun, but it's also fucking terrifying. Because if this doesn't work, the marketing budget is based on the score of your first screening.

So if they see hope, like out of a hundred, these people don't give a shit. They go, I'll give it an 80. I'll give it a 90. I'll get a 40. I'll give it a zero. Fuck this. That means so much because the average, they go, oh, you got a 77. That's really good.

your budget will go up $2 million on advertising. And when it comes down because you got lower scores, you can bump it up by making your tweaks and you get another screening. But if it's too low, they probably won't give you another screening because it costs too much to do a screening and bring the people in and rent the theater.

So they start to give up on it right then. So your first screening, there's more and more pressure over the years. This has to be almost finished. It's not like, let's try a bunch of crazy jokes. It doesn't work. We'll try other ones. it's like it got too serious.

It's called stank, I think, is the expression. Yeah, you get a stank on it. And then you go, yeah. People are starting to fade out on it. Master's guys, low budget, made 40 at box office was like 80 now. And also did another 60 in video in those days. 40 wasn't expensive. I mean, you probably made it for 10 and then you made 40.

But it was, this was a Jack Geributo, the producer and I were trying to figure out ways to edit it and stuff. So since it was a kid's movie, you kind of need a fart joke. You need a fart joke in a kid movie, apparently. So I didn't have any, but I thought, what about the bad guy? Whenever he's really, his plan is going really well, he farts. Now, Jack thought it wasn't a bad. He goes, we should, he should fart and then we cut right away. But I said, no, he farts.

And then we hold for like five seconds or 10 seconds. like, ha ha ha ha ha. So it's like right as he's at the peak of his plan, the chair gets pulled out and then that goes. So Jack, we tried it the other way where it's like, ha ha ha ha cut and it didn't get a laugh. So it is all about he's at the peak of his powers. And then I told you we will dominate the world.

And then the funny thing, you hold on him and then you cut to the people listening like this. Everybody free. And you get an extra laugh. cut away cut away the guy eating his soup so there is kind of uh it it is fun and you there is that trial and error it's always amazing when you do a rough edit on a film what will get a laugh that you didn't expect like that yeah i thought that's why you need a screening yeah you just never know what an audience is going to go for Tommy boy the biggest

the biggest laugh in read through and shooting was the deer in the back and at the screening it was their sixth favorite scene. And you're like, wow, we were wrong the whole time. Like, over time, people remember it, but there's so many more things that people quote to me than that. And it was so hard to shoot. It was freezing. We had to get an animatronic deer.

We had to trash a car. All that work is a set piece, they call them. And it still went well and is a good part of the movie, but it was by far the number one. And then we were like, wow, we saw a screening well i think it's hard to beat uh you and chris's chemistry and patter you know that's what people liked more yeah but in the context of movies i remember it it it was it was an energetic little it thing it was it wasn't witty patter it was chris screaming crazy and then the deer and the thing

so it kind of like lifted energy going like this yeah watching it all happened gave the movie a little left turn a lot of lot of energy it's more sad and like Like chaos. We get it. Tommy Boy starring David Spade and the late great Chris Farley, available now. Wherever you watch your podcast. Blue Ray and Laserdisc. And a podcast.

Okay. Okay, go ahead. Next one. Oh, this is so funny. Director Jordan Peel quit acting when he was offered the role of poop. Oh, the emoji movie? He goes. And that's real.

He goes, this is true. I know. I would be. not offended, I would be like, how would I do that? Look, I mean, and you get it? No, no, I wrote the part and I suggested, I suggested Jordan. I would just say in show business, because so many people are in it now, because every kid has is on film all day, their whole childhood.

So everyone wants to be in it. The more control you can take, the more you can kind of co-write or develop stuff on your own, but just sitting there waiting, what is it? Hi, this is Jordan. Poop. The character's name is poop. Oh, that's funny. No, it's actual poop.

I'm animated poop, and my character's name is poop. Get out! That's the title of his first movie. Let's have a... Oh, get out. That's right. I stepped on it. That's all right.

We got it. I stepped on your poop. Get out. Wait a minute. Well, if you get a poop call and you say, listen, is he like, does he talk, or is it just poop would I make little noises or could it be diarrhea and they're like I'll go we'll go we'll go back to him well yeah Sydney Sweeney is playing diarrhea oh okay your poop all right

well it sounds like a really good movie irritable bowel is who's playing IBS is Brad Pitt Brad's doing that yeah you know he wants to ranch out is peepie really this movie this movie sounds kind of off-putting. It's actually sounds good now. The kids would love it. Kids went crazy for it. Who's jizz again? We haven't cast that yet.

And David Spade as the oversized wiener. Really? An oversized wiener? You want me to play that? Where did you get that idea? I say yes. Scale plus 10. Okay. Another one.

And another one. And another one. And another. Okay. Mr. Beast, Beast Games contestant says he has no regrets. Oh, this one, yeah. This is a follow-up to last week. Oh, okay. Go ahead. What is it? The guy is in a Mr. Beast game, and they say, if you hit that buzzer, all your castmates, your team will lose the whole game and go home. They get nothing. But you get a million dollars. And he fucking hits it. Everyone's shocked. And the guy says, now that I'm a millionaire, I definitely don't regret my decision. And someone commented, why on God's Green Earth would I not take one million over a team of strangers? Oh, they weren't his family or friends? No, it was just like guys who just met in the green room?

Of course. I mean, like, I'm all for being a team player, but these people you met in the green room and had fucking carrot sticks with for an hour. Yeah, and I think, you know, I don't know much about Mr. Beast, but I think he's kind of brilliant in a way. Just to create a show like this, first of all, his name is Bill Slaughter or something like that. To name yourself Mr. Beast is like early branding. You know, it's like the Hulk or something. To invent this game, give away money. I remember the early days of Mr. Beast.

And it was like, I can give you $10,000 now or then I'll give that homeless person, 10,000, you know, stuff like that, man on the street with money. Yeah. Oh, I thought you're asking me. I can give you to pay $10,000 or I can cure the disease. I'll take it. Oh, I didn't finish. Yeah, you could help mankind.

I'll give this to cure cancer or you can have this. I'll give it. Give me, give me. Well, wait, man, let me just finish. It's going to help children all over the world. It's going to feed the whole. I can give. Can you do it in hundreds?

I've already forgotten what he's about to say. I'm just like, how am I going to break this down and carry it? Can we get, we'll just put it out there in the universe. Mr. Beast, I would love to talk to you. Oh, yeah, he should come on. Maybe he's his, the way he created this ecosystem, this entertainment super world is fascinating, but maybe it's a little bit like Trump. He can't say what he's doing because then other people might do it.

Mr. Beast, they call him Mr. Beast. He's a beast, Mr. Beast. He gives away a lot of money. a lot of money gives away a lot of money this beast leaning on that fucking frankly quite frankly quite frankly it's bad Dana's broken quite frankly quite he's making a lot of a lot of people are saying he gets stuck many people are say many people are saying and if you look at it you think about it people are doing many things and they're going to do things and they're talking about things and they're going

place here what happened when Gavin Newsom was sitting in the back I saw a clip I didn't I know he couldn't get in they kind of did he just pop over to Davos like on his way yeah and he was trying to get in their green room and everything but uh he called it daddy's speech was sucked or something like that so they wouldn't let him in and then they flipped them off or something I don't remember politics is a little different these days let's put it that way from the days of George Bush, senior, very polite, very careful. Never step me. No, I'm in the middle of my.

Never. Never, ever, ever. All right. Carson Beck's response to being asked if he had class yesterday. This is a college quarterback. I'm curious, did you have class yesterday? If so, what class? And I know there was a Pep Riley on campus.

What has it been like being you as a student this week, particularly yesterday? No class. I graduated two years ago. Okay. You can still play in college? The quarterback for the national championship team, I think, of Florida, Miami. I just think maybe I'm inaccurate on that, but this NIL stuff has gotten so crazy. I think the Miami team and the championship, the average age was between 22 and 25. and that's when you're supposed to graduate.

So people are staying. I didn't know you could stay without classes. And then they're getting like $2 million, $3 million a year. So they're not rushing as fast to the pros because they give you a rookie deal where the first year isn't that much. And they're like, shit, I'll just stay here and rake it in and be like the hero of my college. Name, image, likeness. You own it, you could sell it, you can monetize it. And the gymnast who's with the pitcher, I can't remember her name.

Oh, Livy. She was making millions. It's kind of funny because I was at San Francisco State. If someone in the dorm be like, what do you do? And I just made $5 million and some pictures of me on a balance beam. Really? I was vacuuming the dorm to get money to be able to live in the dorm. And it was 15 stories high.

Yeah, I mean, honestly, if I was Libby done, I wouldn't graduate. that's not why I didn't graduate but were you a gymnast dude did you have any skills that's where I screwed up my neck interesting and but I wasn't getting paid much to do anything and if they saw my skill shed I have a particular set I have good gracious I could have mumbled jokes around ASU and they would have given me a couple million bucks I know but you didn't and now you have regret you need therapy I I wouldn't take that dirty money. Yes, I would.

Hey, man. I've been poor and I've been rich. What's better? And everything in between. I don't know. I'm just doing kind of a character from, I'm auditioning for a movie character. I've been pouring.

You're audition for Landman 19th spinoff. God damn it, lady. I don't know what the fuck you're trying to do. God damn, everybody's up my ass today. Where'd you wake up on the whole time? The great thing about Landman is it's getting better. Is it?

Sam Elliott is amazing with Billy Bob. It's getting better. It really is. All right. Anything else you want to say before I let you go? Just be kind to your neighbors. Be kind to yourself. Make sure you eat real food as much as possible.

Get your protein, hydrate. Every once in a while, just have a drink of water. And for the, you know, if you're bored, have a drink of water. and do 10 pushups. If you just go, I have nothing to do. I want to say, David, what's your final statement?

Be kind, rewind. And remember that? Yeah. A blockbuster, Heather does. Remember, only you can prevent forest fires. What's that voice about? That was rewinding. I mean a tape, rewinding?

Yeah. How about fast forwarding? A cassette. See, here's what I... Oh yeah, you take a pencil and take a cassette and go... The great thing is... What did Heather say? She said take a cassette and put a pencil or eraser in there

if it gets stuck and you have to turn it. That's way to do the fucking legwork back then. Yeah. We aren't like these spoiled... As long as you say what you're doing, the sound effect will match. Like, I was moving some furniture today. because people picture it. And so the sound effect doesn't have to be accurate.

And I saw a bird the other day. Caca, caca, cacca, cacca, you know. Helps. Open a door. We're getting some horses on our farm. Two horses. Yeah. Now that was accurate.

They're going to eat up the field. There's going to be an electrified fence. They'll never touch it just so they won't get a lot. Bzz, They're going to eat up our field for a month or so. Heather, were you excited that he was getting a horse? I was waiting for him to get. Oh, good, yeah.

We need more other than chickens. You've got to fill that place out. Do you have the stuff? Don't you need goats for them? Are you going to have goats to eat up your sugar? Sure, whatever you guys want. What if you guys want? Well, when we come up there, we want to see the goats and the horses and the chickens.

The whole place is full of horses, cows, incredible, Hawks and birds. It's real zootopia. Dogs. Okay. All right. Thanks, everybody. Goodbye.

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